IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E MIGHT PUT THE COWBOY HAT BACK ON IF KP IS OUT & THIS PODCAST GAME AIN'T FOR EVERYBODY! | S4 EP38

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

It's a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back But no confusion, it's a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Your murder here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches

Welcome ass, I bought jewelry And bikes, nigga, black Benz's And white Vigas, now I'm out here And I'm looking for more chandeliers And light fixtures, nah I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? I'm a high nigga, but this 44 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.

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Killer, what's good, Killer? Murder, what's good, baby? Murder, what's good, baby? How you? Chilling, man. Where you at now? Dubai? Monaco. Monaco, man.

Monaco. It's beautiful, man. You know, Monaco's just upgraded. South Florida, you know, more money, more expensive shit, more, you know, more, more, more, the more of more. The more of more? Yeah, more. The more, more. The more, more?

Yeah, the more, more, man. But you know, once you see one beach, once you see one beach, you see them all unless it's Jones Beach. If you've only been to Jones Beach, get the Atlantic City Beach. Get out of there and see some other beaches, man. You hear that, Larry? See some other beaches, man. You hear that, Larry? See some other beaches, Larry. Yeah, man. Larry,

Larry, Larry, Larry in love with San Diego beach too much for me. For real? That's your neck of the world. Yeah, that's his part of town. Larry, you love San Diego?

Which one? Which beach? Yeah, yeah. I like Coronado. You be on, you ever stand on that cliff over beach? Yeah, yeah. I like Coronado. You ever stand on that cliff over there? Yeah. Yeah. Coronado's the best, though.

Coronado's the best. That's when I knew I made it. I was eating ice cream, pause, on a cliff in La Jolla. I knew I made it. It's rich people. Nice. Okay, so let's get into game three which is tonight so Porzingis is questionable due to a rare left leg injury if he is absent what does his absence mean for Boston knowing that they are

playing in Dallas Porzingis is hurt yes I. I got to get my cowboy hat back then. Man, I shouldn't have stopped my order of cowboy hats. Now I got to put my order. I need a rush order. Can I ask you a question? What? Why'd you stop the order? Porzingis came back.

Porzingis came back. Poor Zingas came back. I stopped my order of cowboy hats. He said, Mr. Bethany, do you need any more cowboy hats? We got more. I said, nah. Poor Zingas is back. But if he's hurt, I definitely need my hat back I gotta get my hat back Killer

I'm gonna get Keller a cowboy hat Nah you ain't gonna get me in that Freaky shit you got going on in the streets I'm cool The purple one was outlandish The purple one was Wow I told you

Why'd you give me this hat, bro? I'm talking about, yo, this is going to be crazy when you go on this. That's why you can't be listening, nigga. When you take this on the show, this is going to be crazy, nigga. It matches your purple varsity jacket.

I said, yo, then I saw it. I said, yeah is this is definitely 69 God right here listen I saw you man I don't got nothing

to do with them cowboy eyes that joint remind me of like I told you it remind me of like you said does anybody in this

house have a problem do do do do do do do do do do do do do Do do do do do do Oh my goodness Yeah I'm going to have to get a different hat I'm going to have to get Probably the ones that the The guy wearing the Django

They had the right ones on You know how the one Samuel Jackson was wearing? guy wearing the Django. They had the right ones on. You know how the one Samuel Jackson was wearing? Or Jamie Foxx. I gotta watch the movie again, you're right. Because I noticed there's a difference. There's a big difference. When I saw Dion's cowboy hat, his hat is different.

So it is a difference in them. It's the one that people wear. The paws in the rodeo. Then it's like the house nigga ones. And then paws is the owner. I got to get the owner. I gotta get the owner one. But back to you,

Stat. Back to me. Stat says she liked my cowboy hat. Keep it real, Stat. The black one you said you liked. Yeah, it was smooth. Black one was smooth. Purple one is a little

different. Yeah, because that's I was smooth. Okay. Keep it real. Purple one is a little different. Yeah. Yeah, because that's a sense of authority where y'all are from. Where I'm from, niggas walking around with cowboy hats. We got a problem with it. We see niggas walking around with a cowboy hat on Lenox Avenue. Maybe not 2024, but when I grew up, you better better not y'all are cool with that Florida boy you got the hat on

watch your mouth boy yeah exactly that's what I'm trying to tell y'all y'all made a girl a little different from me I start seeing cowboy hats I think of police on horses That's just me Not the Porzingis man

Anyway listen man You know it's funny I was talking To the niggas Cause you know these niggas just won't stop They still talking about Yo Jalen was on Dallas It'd be crazy right now.

Or, shit, they should have let us in the championship because we would be giving Boston a harder time. I said, you can't be on the East Coast and have two East Coast teams on the championship. Niggas not even making sense

with this shit. They should let us in the championship. Yeah. Word. The niggas not even making sense with this shit. They should let us in the championship. Yeah. Word. The niggas, yo, murder the nigga told me, yo, yo, I don't know how long Sin been watching basketball or not. He said he found out that home court advantage means you get four games and the other team gets three if it goes to seven games.

He took him out. Why is not five two? That's real home court. I said, i said something's been going on for over 50 years man what are you talking about now i'm just saying one game difference you fight all year for one game yes yes yes that's the way it goes but back to poor zingers look the reason i brought that up is because i was telling him, I said, listen, man, you know, they see the first game and they're like, damn, Porzingis ain't do that for us when he's at the next, this, that, and the third.

And I was telling him, I said, and I wasn't even trying to be jinxy or anything like that. I said, as much as Porzingis get hurt, you better hope he make it through this series. And look, we're at the next game. He told my question now I know Porzingis isn't going to play next game because they're up 2-0 why risk more injury when you're definitely up 2-0 we'll see how the game goes

tonight but what I'm saying is Porzingis has a history of getting hurt he averages over his career he missed close to 200 games he averages if you're doing an average, 25 games a season, just about, per season on missing games. Now, I know it varies from season to season where he may miss a whole season or he may play 60 games or whatever the case may be. But he's missed close to 200 games in his short NBA career.

And his average in 25 games is just a little bit under that per season. Porzingis is an asset to have on his team. He's definitely a unicorn. We can see when he's healthy what he can do, but how often is he healthy? And I'm not saying that this is an injury-free league. Of course it's not.

But we have to put this into perspective. Standing talent, how do you balance it? free league. Of course it's not. But we have to put this into perspective. Standing talent, how do you balance it? Because usually you'll say low management or whatever for Kawhi or anybody else. He's been wrestling for weeks. He hasn't played in three, four weeks. He missed just basically

the first, the second, third round just about. So he's been wrestling. He's been cool. He's just tall and, you know I'm tall niggas slinky paws niggas move awkwardly and fall awkwardly to now he may not be playing and I think this will take an effect

on Boston Celtics because to me, he's been the real problem and don't get me wrong. The entire Boston Celtics team to playing their ass off on defense mates mentioned it yesterday out Jalen Brown is picking Luka Pockets up and down the court the first two

games. Kyrie Irving just seems to be losing ball shit that we don't usually see from Kyrie Irving. But the one thing that they have had, and Jalen Brown has been a part of it also, is inside presence where they're blocking a lot of shots. And Porzingis had three blocks in the first half, the first game,

blocking dunks and everything else. And I think that's bothering Lively and Gafford. So if they get on the court and don't see Porzingis, I think they'll have much more success than they had in the first two games. That has yet to be determined. But Porzingis not being there, this is definitely a better look that Dallas will have. I'll say that.

Yeah, I fully agree with what you're saying. If Porzingis doesn't show up from the tip, this is an entirely different game. This is mano a mano. This is how we would have wanted to see this series. You want to see this series. You want to see Jalen Brown against, you know, Luka. You want to see everybody that's playing now is even without Porzingis. Porzingis, like you said, is the unicorn.

And in the first two games, he had five blocks. So that changes the whole game because now when you're going down the lanes, pause. You don't have to think about changing your shot. It's you against the actual guy that's in front of you. And I know that Porzingis is determined to play. He said ain't nothing going to stop him. But Joe has made his mind up that they're going to have a say-so and if he plays or not. And I think what you said is true.

They're not going to risk putting him out there being up 2-0. Even after 2-1, they may not still put him out there because they're like, we're up. But let them come back cause 2-2, and I guarantee you he'll be ready to get back on that court. I don't see this as a series that's out of reach without Porzingis on that floor. I will go that far, and I know you say, Murda, you switch up, but listen, things change. If you take Porzingis off that floor, If you take Porzingis off that floor, I would have went with Dallas for one or for two.

And it may turn around and be that if Porzingis don't come back out. But I got to see what Kyrie is doing. I got to put a call out to Kyrie and let Kyrie know, listen here, a lot is on the line. We're not playing. You want me to wear the Mavs hat or not, Kyrie, no, listen here. A lot is on the line. We're not playing. You want me to wear the Mavs hat or not, Kyrie? I can't wear the Mavs hat if you're going to be losing the ball. I just can't do that. I can't put my rep as Titletown on the line if you're going to be losing the ball. That just don't make no sense.

That's like a crackhead losing their stem. You just, they don't do it. Killerhead losing their stem. They don't do it. Killer, what you think? They don't do it. Kyrie losing the ball is crazy. That's like it's fixed. Yeah, listen, man, you made a great point about the blocks

when you started talking. It's not just the blocks. It's the blocks, definitely, but altering shots. Knowing that somebody has the potential to block your shot. It makes you shoot the ball differently. That doesn't go in the stats here when you say altering shots and making people miss shots. As far as Kyrie is concerned, listen, Drew Holiday is, let's call it like it is. He's been putting the clamps on you.

He's looking very out of characteristic. One thing is, it's one thing to miss shots. It's another thing to see Kyrie Irving losing the ball, dribbling. I just haven't seen it throughout his career. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. And Drew Holliday is from L.A. And Kyrie, you from Jersey.

This is, come on. You got niggas from LA picking you up trying to steal the ball come on Kyrie you want me to wear the cowboy hat or not this is Sham this ain't about none of y'all this is between me and Kyrie come on Kyrie

yeah like I said altering shots is very underrated because now you're switching from a comfortable shot to uncomfortable shot. Sometimes it looks erratic. Sometimes it throws you off. So that's a stat that doesn't go on the stat sheet. And I think Porzingis has a lot to do with that. Lastly, I like to say is Mace.

Have you ever seen a crackhead lose his stem since you used that reference? Never. How would you know? How would you know what that's like? That's what I'm saying. I've never seen it. That's what I'm saying with Kyrie. This is weird.

I've never seen Kyrie lose the ball like this. Are you calling Kyrie a crackhead? No, I'm saying this. I'm saying a crackhead will not lose that stem. I thought that's what the ball was. Pause the Kyrie that he never loses the ball. You know, growing up in the hood, they like, yo, he had it on a string. He can't lose it. So when you see Kyrie losing the ball. You know how growing up in the hood, they like, yo, he had it on a string. He can't lose it.

So when you see Kyrie losing the ball, that's crazy. Have you seen crackers with stems before? Cameron. I'm just asking the question. Have you been in that environment? In your life? I'm talking about your entire life. Have you been in that environment? In your life? I'm talking about your entire life.

Have you been in that environment? I've seen a few. I've seen a few people wish that. It was a good or bad. How'd you feel when you watched it? Normally they come up with a TV They selling you that they stole From somebody They got their pipe and their stem in their hand

And they got the TV in the other hand And they're selling it to you for $2 And $5 But no matter how they had that TV They wasn't letting go of that stem so that's that's what i equated to that that's what i'm saying so somebody came them told you a tv and you gave them crack that's what you said so you bought a five dollar tv before i'm trying to figure out where you get these

these like I was a kid I didn't have the money but I saw them trying to sell stuff on the block I seen you on the corner at 9 years old that's why I'm trying to ask you exactly what you saw that's no cap

I'm not even exaggerating I actually seen you when I wasn't allowed to come outside by myself standing outside with 25 people were those people selling crap

that you was with he knows don't tell he knows don't tell I don't know alright I'm talking about

like 88 87 yeah that whole corner was cracked it was I don't know. All right. I'm talking about like 88, 87. Oh, yeah. That whole corner was cracked. Yeah, 133rd Lenox. I used to have to walk to McDonald's with my mobile. I'd see you out there.

I didn't know you like that. I said, why is that little kid with all these people? Did you have a job? Was you working at that time? Why were you with that many older people when you was nine years old? Ask Mace. Here we are.

Yeah, I'm curious. No, because I'm not making this up. This is a real story. I'm from 140th and Lenox, and the only McDonald's we had was on 132nd and Lenox, and I used to walk there with my mother and I didn't know Mace but I've seen

him outside with like masks 16 17 anywhere from 16 to 24 years old and he was 9 so I'm trying to figure out what exactly was going on was you a lookout? Was you a lookout? You never cease to amaze me.

What I'm saying is we know the man you are today, but even Malcolm X was red, nigga. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I mean, you know, product of the environment, you know. A boy like this ought to get anything out this kid right here.

Okay. All right, I'll move on. Okay, so before we move on, I want to be a little bit clearer on you guys' stance. So do you guys feel like the Mavs have game three? This is their best chance at having, I wouldn't say they have it, but this is their best

chance at winning game three because Porzingis is not, is presently there and he does make that much of a difference. When you got anybody on your team 7-3 or so, you know, that's going to change the game, especially he hitting threes, he hitting floaters,

20 points in almost 20 minutes, you know, those kind of stats. Anybody that can light up the scoreboard like that is going to change the game. And I think right now, with them going back home, getting some home-cooked meals and being in their own bed, all of that plays a difference. And hearing their fans screaming, it's going

to turn into, it should turn into a victory. Okay. And Cam, your thoughts? Well, I picked the Mavericks so far to pick to win the first two games, and I've been totally wrong. I'll say this, the Mavericks, no to pick the winner the first two games, and I've been totally wrong. I'll say this. The Mavericks, no. They have to win this game. If they lose this game, the series is over.

You know, May said it last time, and I'm aggrieved for the obvious RPOJ. If they lose this game, the series is over. Absolutely. Nobody comes back from 0-3. So I'm going to pick the Mavs because, like May said, and the whole world pretty much knows I don't know how many series been played that over 100

something where you're there 0-3 and you don't come back and win. So I'm going to pick the Mavs again. I've been 0-2 so far in this championship series but their backs against the wall. They could wrap it up tomorrow. Tomorrow is basically their their game seven so to speak. their backs against the wall. They could wrap it up tomorrow. Tomorrow. Basically they're,

uh, they're getting seven, so to speak. Good points. Okay. And then moving along fever coach, Christie size is facing backlash after revealing that Caitlin Clark texted her coach.

They woke a monster when she wasn't announced on the Olympic team. So do you guys feel like the coach should have kept that information to herself? Or do you think that's something that is okay for the public to know that personal message between her and Kaitlyn Clark? When I hear something like this, coach, they woke a monster and she announces this.

I think this has dual meaning. It's not just she's saying what Caitlyn said, but I think it's a way to hold Caitlyn accountable as well. When you put something like that out there, it forces Caitlyn to be able to perform at a higher level because now the coaches put that out there. So I think when she's saying this, it's not to get backlash. It's more so to make people even zoom in more on Caitlyn and it's going to make her have to play. It's almost like trash talking. When somebody start trash talking on the court, that's when people start really playing. So when you say this for Caitlyn to the media, it's going to make her ball on a new level. And I'm here for it. I know everybody else is here for it. I want to see her again against that girl that she played that first game against that was

ripping her every time. I want to go back and look at who that was. And I want to see her become a monster against that person. That would be great to see. That's when I'll believe that she's a monster. Me personally, if I'm the coach, I wouldn't put that out there. Simply because it's a couple of things. I would have put that out there after they get on a five game winning streak. Or after Caitlin Clark has shot over 50% from the field for a few games. Or when something substantial happens with the fever.

Because nothing has happened substantial with the fever thus far. But people say Caitlin Clark is coming to town. All that to me is going to make players like, it's to me like, Mace, I can't think of a great example right now, just off the top of my head. If somebody, I know a great example. I'll give you a great example.

And I hate to bring them back up. It's like if Jingles say, yo, they woke up a monster. Ooh. It's like, get out of here. There ain't no monster. There ain't a monster. Ooh. It's like, get out of here. Ain't no monster. Ain't no monster. Monster.

Oh, nah, niggas. They put me on the all-star team. They woke a monster. Oh, snap. Jingles, what are we going to do now? That's how I think players do it. I'm so scared. I don't know what I'm going to do.

Sorry, Jingles. Get out the way, Jingles. It's coming. Get out the way. Nobody's scared of you. That's the point and we've seen this since the season started in the WNBA nobody is scared of

Katelyn Clark if anything they want problems and by her coach saying this this is going to make players they already hyped the player this is going to make them more hyped so you thought you were supposed to especially the people that was chosen for the Olympics the women that was chosen for the Olympics they're going to, word. So you thought you were supposed to, especially the people that was chosen for the Olympics, the women that was chosen for the Olympics,

they're going to be like, oh, so you thought you were on my spot. Move. Ice cream. Clear it out. Please. Go through. Go through.

Yeah. Yeah. Fuck is you talking about? We woke up a monster. Yeah. I want to put it out there. I think this is going to make it worse. Unless Caitlin got some shit we ain't seen.

And right now, this whole season, she's had decent games, but nothing compared to her college career. Some games she's looking like a deer. Headlights, I don't mean that as being scared. I'm just talking about you can see the ball getting stolen. You can see her melting when people set screens. You can see her shit getting punched out of bounds. You can see where people saying people set screens. You can see her getting punched out of balance. You can see where people saying that she's flopping when she's getting fouled.

Nobody's scared. Nobody's scared. Yeah, she definitely needs a personal trainer. Right. This summer, I think she really needs to work on her handle because for her to be a point guard and get in her pocket spec like this is just ridiculous. She really, really needs to work on her handle because for her to be a point guard in her pockets pick like this is just ridiculous she really really needs to work on her handle and and we already know she could shoot but

shots off the dribble etc not just three point shots mid-range game etc but you know that's what they said whether she bring to the table outside a three-point game that's what one of the female players have said so me personally I would not have said this until something was going good because this statement could have been hell. This could have been waiting for the fever to go on a four, five, six, seven game winning streak if possible. How to average 21 during that winning streak. How to shoot better than 40% from the field.

And they could be like, well, I ain't going to tell you. I didn't want to say this, but, you know, a month ago, when they announced the Olympic team, Caitlyn told me they woke up a monster, and obviously they did. Right there, man. Right now, we ain't see no monster, man. And putting this out there, it's just going to make niggas be like, yeah, all right, bitch want my spot.

I wish you would. I wish you would. I wish you would come over here trying to take my spot. But now when she plays against all these Olympians, she's a two-piece dinner, man. Yeah, something's going to have to give. Something's going to have to give, Paul, for real. Because now it's out there. And they're flaming the coach by saying she's not media trained for even making that statement.

That's the point I'm trying to say. Why even put her under more scrutiny with these girls who's trying to kill her every single night? Now you're making it seem like she thinks she should have been on the Olympic team. And every last member of the Olympic team, from what I've been hearing, she don't want no smoke with her yeah that's a good point i definitely think that the coach should have kept that confidential especially if caitlyn clark confided in her and you know that she's the hot commodity so anytime somebody says something about her people are ready to pick it apart so that was not the coach's role she even could have at least waited for caitlyn clark like cam said to reveal that after they had a better streak to me it kind of reminds me when like kuzma was talking about the

pistons and he was like it's like don't be like that team and they had bad standings too it's like that's not the time to be talking about other people so i definitely gave both of y'all's points in that sense but this is all part of caitlyn's origin story she's only gonna get better so right and then at the end of the day too, we don't know. I don't really, I'm not going to sit and act like the WNBA is like the NBA as far as coaching is concerned. But you got to think about this. This coach job may start being on the line soon.

Like, listen, you can't do nothing with Kalen Clark. You can't do nothing with Aaliyah Boston. We got two first round, two first picks back to back. What are y'all going to do? I don't really know her cachet with the organization. I'm not going to sit and act like I looked up her

record as a professional coach. But at the end of the day, everybody jobs on the line. That's going to be going to question soon if she doesn't get shit done. Maybe this is part of her saving her ass too. Shorty told me she's been woke up a month,

so I don't know what the fuck you want me to do. You know, you got to start all that earlier. Yeah, and she might be trolling. You know, this generation, they just want to stay in the media by any means necessary. She might be trolling. And if she's trolling, that's a good troll.

How would you rate that troll, Stat? If she's trolling that's a good troll how would you rate that troll stat if she's trolling not good enough because it's supposed to have some sort of upside to her that just gave them bad energy oh so when you're trolling they gotta be upside yeah it doesn't have to be positive but it has to do something that's gonna benefit you in the end yeah get her name popping it's not popping that's the problem so that's what i think okay so that's a bad troll right there what do you call a bad troll a bad troll or a good troll a bad troll like call it like what's the name for it now no i'm saying what's the name is it a name for a bad troll?

I don't know. Okay. He said we talking about one. So I guess that's the name. Oh yeah, that's a bad troll. You siding right now. That's crazy. Okay. And then before we move along from this topic,

so a lot of people are wondering about the update from USA Basketball and their reasoning for not having Kait Caitlin Clark on the Team USA team. They released a statement saying when you base your decision on criteria, there were other players that were harder to cut because they checked a lot more boxes. Then sometimes it comes down to position, style of play, and then sometimes a vote.

They also said popularity wasn't a factor in this decision. So what do you think of their response? And do you guys believe popularity should be a factor? That was definitely when they say, when they, let me go back. When they say that this was not based upon popularity, that was definitely shade, right? And then they say, well, there's other players that check more boxes. That's also shade because rumor has it before the NCAAs were over, she was invited. They was hawking her to come to the tryout.

They was definitely trying to get her at the tryout and wanted her to be there the whole time. Definitely trying to get her at the tryout and wanted her to be there the whole time. So she didn't show up to stay consistent with her team while they were in the final fours and the lead eight and all of those things. And so when she came back, she didn't make it. And I guess they was trying to get her there early to give her a better shot at making it. And she didn't show up for that so you know sometime when you act like you're better than the program people shade you back you know it's like a silent way to talk to you people do that you know they shouldn't but you get what i'm saying larry right i mean i didn't see one rookie make it.

So why should she be the exception? Right? And I get, I mean, I think everybody on that squad dogs her out. So. If Caitlin Clark was your daughter, would you want her to make it? Of course you want her to make it, but it's not a popular. She wasn't, she's not the best player. What has she done this season on the court as a professional? What has she done?

Larry, you hate K-Mart. No, I don't hate her. Just listen. I think these girls are dogging her when they play her. And what has she done as a professional? She's Tim Tebow to me right now. She's a great college player.

She's a great college player. That was mean right there. She's a great college player. She's a great college player. That was mean right there. She's a great college player. She's a great college player, but when you get to the pros, it's a different ball game, baby. They're going to run with that. Let them run with it all day. That was mean. That was paused. That was

a good take, killer. She's Tim Tebow. She ain't did nothing. So should Angel Reese be upset, killer? That's a great take, Killer. She's Tim Tebow. She ain't did nothing. So should Angel Reese be upset, Killer? That's a great take, Larry. You know how much they wanted Tim Tebow to do well? Of course, yep. Yep. She's George...

I ain't gonna go that far. I was gonna give her a boxing reference, but I'm gonna leave that one. She's better than Tim Tebow, though. Nah, come on, man. Tim Tebow... What boxing reference? Tim Tebow What about Tim Ruffress I was gonna say Jerry Who is she Jerry

Jerry Cooney Jerry Cooney Jerry Cooney Jerry Cooney's crazy Jerry Cooney's wild Tommy Guns Who is this What was his name?

Killer Tommy? What was it? Tommy? Tommy Morris? I know who you're talking about. Tommy Morris. Not even him. Jerry Cooney was the one.

He was a... No, Jerry Cooney was labeled the great white ho. He was. I'm not going that far yo I rock with Caitlyn I ain't gonna lie they're trying to make

this a bird I think the Tim Tebow I think the Tim Tebow thing was great yeah Tim Tebow is is a good take yeah

okay and Cam what I'll say about it is yeah look May said and I didn't notice, he talked about it before, how she'd been invited, I guess, after the Final Four, during the Final Four, whatever time before Olympic people was given that time to get a head start on it,

and she didn't go. I don't think, I disagree with Mace when he's saying it's shade. I get what he's saying. I'm not saying that doesn't happen. I think that does happen. It's two ways she would have made that. Two ways she would have made that team. If the Olympics, if the WNBA schedule was after the Olympics,

she would be on that team because you wouldn't have seen her play since the NCAA. But because she didn't bake every night and you see you see the big difference in the disparity in between play is fucked up. And the problem that people are having when it comes to these blogs and analysts and so on and so forth, it isn't like college basketball and the NBA. College basketball men's I'm talking about. The season ends in March, beginning of April, and you don't see them play again until September, October. The NCAA tournament ends in April, and you see these

girls play at the end of May. So it's only really a month and a half off. So people aren't really understanding her not having the success right now that she just had three months ago, not realizing the level of competition that stepped up tremendously. They're like, damn, she couldn't have fell off that bad. She just was busting ass a month and a half ago.

Not against these women, she wasn't. And that's the difference. So when they're saying that she doesn't check the boxes, look, I can't look. International play is the best among the best among the best in the world. And I don't know how many foreign players are playing in the

WNBA, but we see what's going on in men's professional basketball. So we have four of the top five players in the world are not from America. We can't have our point guards getting ripped on the national level in the Olympics.

She can't make it up the damn court in America. What's going to happen in Paris? When we say check the boxes, I'm not disagreeing with what they said because listen, as much as people are hating on Caitlyn Clark I'm talking about, it's people that still root for her and love her and that's why it's a problem. And the WNBA know that.

This would be beneficial to have her on the team financial-wise, to move women's sports forward-wise, to build the WNBA. This is all great things to have on the team. But when you're not meeting the criteria for international play, let alone not doing it in national play, you're going to look stupid. And everybody has a reputation to keep on the line. So now if you pick her and she doesn't do good, whoever's picking the females for the Olympics, they're under scrutiny.

Now they're going to be under investigation for seeing if they took a bag under the table to get this bum-ass female to be playing on the Olympic team with the best females from America. It triples down and it goes down the list. That's Caitlyn. She's calling her what?

Bum female. I ain't say this bum ass bitch. I said bum female. Caitlyn can shoot, but she's been looking trash, man. I'm rooting for the girl. I've been rooting for her for two years, but look. You got to call her like you see it, man. Now, listen, I've been rooting for this girl.

The last time I stopped rooting for Caitlyn Clark is when she played against South Carolina in the championship. I said, I got to go with the blacks. It's black and white. So I had to go with black people. All the way up for the last two years, I've been rooting for Caitlyn Clark. But I got to call with black people all the way up for this last two years I've been rooting for Caitlyn Clark but I gotta call it like I see it same way you just called out Kyrie and said this is you and him it's the same thing

you ain't going so you don't see Kyrie turning the ball over you don't see Kyrie missing the shots you don't see Kyrie doing uncharacteristically things that he usually does

so you called it out right she ain't been playing like a bum I'm just saying does. So you called it out, right? She ain't been playing like a bum? I'm just saying. She's doing good. She be on the team. It's beneficial for her to be on that team. But you don't want to lose your core players neither saying this.

The nigga's sucking dick. Just to add, there are rumors saying that if one of the main players get hurt, she could potentially be a sub. So that goes to kind of like my next question. I know you guys all talked about her skill set and basically just don't know. Let me ask you a question. Is the girl Cameron on the team?

No. But she's on the three-on-three. She's on the three-on-three basketball team. Angel Reese, no. Angel Reese on it? No. Yeah, these are all rookies that's playing better than her to me right now. So if they throw her on there, I know they play different positions,

but it should be other people if you're not going off of our, what was the word they use? Celebrity? Yeah. Is Brittany Griner on that team? Popularity. Is Brittany on it? Yeah. Popularity. Brittany Griner on that team popularity is Brittany on it yeah popularity

Brittany Griner yeah yeah center yeah so you guys don't think popularity should be a factor

that's just face question as long as Brittany you could be the most famous grab my bat I'm sorry yeah go ahead no when you say

does popularity be a factor not to me I mean don't get me wrong you want people to come see your superstars but not you can be the most popular niggas and get blown out every week every game yeah we trying to win yeah you trying to win

and you trying to be popular it's a difference you can be both but right now she's not both she's not winning and it's showing so to me when it comes to international play like this anything it should not be popularity but that's just not the case with everything you know sometimes you go right now like for instance it's not popular i don't know if you call this reverse popular or anything else. I'm talking about shit that's not fair.

Fuck all the popularity. Let's talk about shit that's not fair. Is it fair that Giannis' brother is taking up a roster spot? Is that fair? No. It's what you can negotiate. It's what you can negotiate. Is it fair that Taurasi is playing at 42

on the Olympics? Mace, you the one who went to bat for her. You tell me. You the one who jumped out the window. Oh, Nick, now we got to get to a whole nother conversation. We talked about Diane Taurasi and the legend. This was you, so you tell me. Of course, she should be on that team.

Okay, okay. No problem. That's the female goat. One day I want to have that problem. That's the female goat. And one day I want to have that conversation. She's the female goat. To Rossi. Before we go to break,

though, I do just want to add, I do feel like Caitlin Clark is trying her best with what she has. Like her stats, I know how it looks. Like it's, she is having kind of

a rough start, but she's not doing terribly bad at all for the team that she's on. Like you compare stats. She does have some comparable stats to Sabrina Unescu plays for the Liberty, which is obviously a lot better of a team. But I just don't I don't want to say that she's like a terrible player because she's not like. But given the circumstances, thank you. This is just not her time to be on this team, which is okay.

Thank you, Stat. Nobody said she wasn't. Yeah, my bad, man. I'm sorry. I'm glad Stat cleared that up because I was thinking it was a reverse racism thing. It's not. It was starting to feel like that. It's not.

And I wasn't saying that you guys said she was a bad player, but I just know that some things can get taken out of context. So I just like to clear that up for viewers listening. I don't give a fuck what niggas think. I don't care. I'm not pronouncing Stanimal right. I'm going to say bitches is getting their periods when they get them. I don't care what they do. I don't care.

That's the whole thing. I don't care. When niggas start caring too much for me, this ain't the show to care, man. I just want to clear that up. I ain't clearing nothing up. She playing like shit. Leave it where it is. She playing like shit.

Yeah, man. At the end of the day, she was winning. Now she not winning. I'm not clearing up nothing. That's just that. Start winning. Start winning. Get a stand-in-the-lock. Yeah, get a stand-in-the-lock right. Get a shit together. Get a stand-in-the-lock. that's his dad start winning start winning and I know that's a decent

human terrible team yeah get us standing them right get us together breakfast of champions I'm telling you

get us together man I'm not clearing up nothing if Mason Statt want to clear

that up that's enough but my disclaimer I'm not clearing up nothing. I love it. And I respect that.

I like South America killer. I like South America killer. He back. He back. Yo, you're one-E nigga. Okay, y'all. He back He back Yo you Why do you make it Okay y'all Yo Mace

Mace Mace Mace Kansas and France bro Just so you know Just letting you know that Okay Alright man

Just Alright Mace Okay y'all Okay y'all Okay okay so we're gonna go to break when we return me around the world the first time you took me around the world the first time you should know this all good okay we're gonna go to a break

when we return we will discuss a new venture from Steph Curry don't go anywhere isn't counting got you feeling like an option maybe i'm my own problem baby she's tired of hearing i don't know what's happening in me won't fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about it Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day.

Tonight, game three. Mavs versus Celtics. Underdog fantasy has Derek White at four assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Well, he should be able to get more than four assists. He can get five. I'm going higher. He got his hair cut now.

He's ready to play. Yeah, Boots have been moving the rock lately. Their motion offense has been looking spectacular. Will it fall in direct? White's hand to get four assists. I'm not sure,

but I'm going to go higher as well. Hey, Al Horford is at 19.5 points, rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm going to go higher. Porzingis is out, or most likely

will be out. And he was eating up a few minutes of Al Horford's time. I think Al Horford's going to get way more minutes tonight, so I'm going to go higher.

Yeah, I'm actually going to go higher, too. Okay, and PJ Washington is at 14 points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? 14 points? Who? PJ Washington. Man, he ain't going to have 14.

I'm going to have 14. I'm going low. So I was reading the email. PJ Washington. I'll sell them. PJ Washington. I think you'll have a run. I'm going to go higher. All right.

Mace disagrees download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so Steph Curry and his father Del Curry are launching

a podcast named Heat Check what do you guys think of Steph Curry joining the podcast wave alongside Draymond Green it's not together

but they both have podcasts when it comes to Stephen Curry and his dad, both of them are phenomenal shooters. You know, I think it's pretty phenomenal to be a dad and a son that played in the NBA. I think they'll have some phenomenal guests and I'm, I'm going to go on a record and say,

phenomenal guests and I'm going to go on the record and say I think it'll do very well because Del Curry seemed to have a lot of personality a lot of personality that we weren't privy of watching him in the NBA because the spotlight wasn't on

him like that but I could tell by certain things he does in the crowd the dynamic of his dad I mean the dynamic of his son playing in the crowd, the dynamic of his dad, I mean, the dynamic of his son playing in the NBA, and the dynamic of his relationship with their mom I think is perfect

for some great content. I think it's perfect. What's the exact question, Steph? Yeah, just how do you feel about Steph joining the podcasting wave? Because we know Draymond Green has one too, but how do you feel about Steph joining the podcasting wave? Because we know Draymond Green has one too, but how do you feel about him and his father entering that? I'm just happy we started when we started

because this shit getting oversaturated. Shit getting out of control. I'm going to be honest with you. Shit, I'm happy we got it when we got it. I think niggas be watching us and I'm not going to put this on any athletes. I'm just saying in general, people be like, they doing it. We can do it too, right?

Word. Word. I was at Radio Shack. The mics is only $19.99. We set that shit up in the living room. My shorty know how to upload it to YouTube and all that. Like, nah, we can keep, because we be talking the shit. We be seeing it be real, right?

That's what I really be thinking niggas be home doing. For real, I really believe that. Well, congratulations, Killer, because that means we made it look easy. I mean, what's new, nigga? What's new?

What you think is everything we do, we make it's new, nigga? What's new? What do you think? Everything we do, we make it look easy, nigga. That's the biggest thing they be doing. Yeah, we doing it like we doing it for TV when we going to the store to buy toilet paper. It don't even be that hard. All we doing is breathing. We just breathing. You know, I ain't even doing much more than breathing and walking.

Anybody else going jumping through loopholes and everything else, nigga, all I do is breathe and walk. Thank God that I can do that. And at the end of the day, niggas are thinking they can be me or you or anybody else. God, yo, listen. You can't buy this. This is not for sale.

This shit that I got, that we got, is not really for sale. You can't go to Costco and get a bulk load of it. You can't go up to Harlem and be like, yo, I'm going to hang out all summer. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to spend the summer in Harlem. I can get some of that shit on me that them niggas got. Nah, man. It ain't easy.

Back to stuff, Curry. I'm just happy that we got him. This shit has been nasty to watch. It's almost like watching an episode of Hoarders. I can't watch Hoarders. So, as far as Steph Curry and his father, look, congratulations to two great basketball minds.

We'll see what happens. But do they have the personality? Maybe everything may not always seem two great basketball minds. We'll see what happens. But do they have the personality? Look, maybe everything may not always seem what it may seem because Steph Curry doesn't seem like he has a personality really on the court either, to be honest with you.

I don't know when Mace said he could tell Dale's Curry attitude about when he sees him in the crowd. Mace, what are you doing this like this? What are you could tell by that? Like, what you mean? Yeah! What are you talking about, bro? I could tell this whole person now.

What do you see in the crowd that you think make you think when you make you think that he could do a podcast because you see him in the crowd? What are you talking about? What do you see special? Tell me exactly what you see in this podcast.. What are you talking about? What do you see special? Tell me exactly what you see. I'm glad you said this.

When he was, when he found out, I think when he found out, like he, him and his mom was separating or something. It was, it was a certain like thing. I can't really say.

It happened, it happened. What are you doing? Yeah. I can't really say what I really want to say. It happened. It happened. What are you doing? Yeah. He looked like, yo, I can't say what I really want to say.

He was looking at the mom like, yeah, she better cut that out. It was a sad thing. The audience needs more clarification. What exactly look that he gave her? He gave her that look. I mean, other people seen her.

I really don't. Usually I got you, but I can't ask a very valid question. Because I'll say this is nervous. I'll say no personality. Yeah, it was one time where it was a rumor or something about she had started seeing somebody else. The mom had started seeing somebody else. And Dale gave her that look like that he wasn't as jovial as we think he is. He had some nigga.

He had a nigga suit zipped up. And that's what I saw. Let me ask you the question. When you say, when you say nigga suit, meaning like y'all slapped the shit out the nigga you with or bitch?

Yeah. Yeah. That looks like a nigga's thing is a game. Niggas ain't as sweet as it look. So you think he's taking that energy to the podcast? I'm saying because I saw that. It's nothing like seeing a nigga you think is clean lace.

And he show you a nigga vibe. Yeah, listen, I get what you're saying. And then your last statement was, you know, this should be good because the dynamic with him and his father and his mom. And I was going to bring that up. But obviously you brought that up with this separated. What dynamic does those three have on the podcast? Because it's always interesting to see how people talk when they're free to

talk. You know what I'm saying? See, if he was married, it's stuff he couldn't say. But because he's not, it'll be things he could say that it'll be interesting to see even how

Stephen Curry would take that. Like, not Stephen Curry, but just imagine a dude talking to his son and he's like, you know, your mother be tripping. Or certain things he want to say that he can't say if they're together. You know?

You give it up, Sam. I think I know what you're saying. I don't really want to say what I want to say. I don't think he's going to do that in front of Steph just because he's not fucking with his mom. That don't mean Steph ain't fucking with his mom because he might start thinking about Shamel. You know?

He did what you did. That's still my mother. At the end of the day, I don't know what these do. That's how you get the podcast popping, though. That's how you get it popping right there. I'm not disagreeing with you. Are they willing to go that far? I think you're right. I think the whole podcast will take off right from there.

Right from there. Watch your mouth, nigga. I think the niggas, they tuning in. So I don't know if that's where they're going. But look, it's two great basketball minds. I'll give it a shot and see what they're talking about. But just because you have a great basketball mind and you're an NBA champion and everything else, do you have the personality for it? Some people have a great radio personality. Some people

are great on TV. Some people are great at both. But just because you have a voice in the microphone, not talking about Steph Curry or anybody like that, ask some friends if they think it's cool for you. Just be like, yo, you think this is alright? Because if you got real friends, they're going to tell you.

Especially if you ain't got no money yet. Because they ain't getting nothing out of it. So they going to be like, man, that shit trash. Before the rest of the world tells you. At least get some people on your team that support you that think it's okay

before you just jump out the window. And I'm not talking about the Currys. People are going to watch them. It's a great basketball legacy and we'll see where their personality is

when it's time to show them. But good luck. Good points. Okay, and 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey will grace the cover of the Madden NFL 25 game, becoming theers running back Christian McCaffrey will grace the cover of the Madden NFL 25

game becoming the first running back on the cover since 2014 no what do you think of him getting on the cover Ace is not excited no I told OJ this God bless OJ I told him every time somebody gets on that cover, it's like a jinx. You know they're going to get hurt. So I'm going to be looking with binoculars. Pause, for real. To see if McCaffrey makes it through this whole season. If he does, he'll be the first in a long term. Normally, every time somebody gets on that cover, they get hurt.

That's all I have to say. Congratulations, man. That's what I'll say to Christian McCaffrey. Nigga's a dog, bro. Real, real dog, man. He works hard as shit, you know, you can tell. Especially coming back from injury, you know, a lot of people may have thought his career had been over when he was in North Carolina. Came back with the 49ers looking better than he was looking in North Carolina

or just as good, just to say the least. So congratulations to him. What I would want to know, and I don't have the answer to this, is when's the last time a white man been the cover of Mad? And if it was recently, I just want to know, and I don't have the answer to this, is when's the last time a white man been the cover of Madden? And if it was recently, I just want to know, because that's going to sell more Madden. I mean, John Madden was a cover 2023, but of course he passed.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't count because that's his game and he passed away so Matt and not count Matt I'm talking about player Wallace 2022 Tom Brady yeah Tom deserved that on the comeback of course look this is what I'm talking about anytime they can shove

one of them niggas on that cover more Matt in sales I think Christian McCaffrey I think Christian McCaffrey deserved it. Who was on it before that? Mahomes? Yeah, 2021, Lamar Jackson. 2020, Pat Mahomes.

2019, Antonio Brown. 2018, Tom Brady again, but that time with the Patriots. That sounds all right. Damn, Antonio fucking Brown, man. Yeah sounds alright. Antonio fucking Brown, man. Yeah, man. Cover fucking Madden, man. Five years ago, man.

Wow. What? Yep. Congrats, Christian McCaffrey. Definitely. Okay, and then to Mace's point, that Madden cover curse is like a thing. And honestly,

like they're saying players basically 2019 and before Antonio Brown and before have been cursed. But like so far after like Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes,

Tom Brady, they've been good. So maybe it's a broken curse. Maybe it's broken. They put the black man on it. Broke it. The black man broke it. Pause.

Okay. And then a last question before we wrap. So glizzy champion, Joey. Y'all hold on. Put the black man on it and he broke it. He's wet.

I said pause, you know. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. It was. That was wild. Just a little bit.

It's been a wild day though. Thanks. Okay. Last thing before we wrap, glizzy champion Joey Chestnut has been banned from the 2024 hot dog eating contest over his partnership with vegan hot dog brand Impossible Foods

over Nathan's. What do you think of this banning? The Glizzy Championship. I don't know what I'm saying. Yo, they said he ate 62 Glizzies And This is crazy

Yo What's your question? What do you think of the banning? Like he's literally being banned because He has a partnership with a vegan brand Over Nathan's Hot dogs So what He's literally being banned because he has a partnership with a vegan brand over Nathan's hot dogs. So what?

I mean, so are the Glazies vegan? His partnership with Impossible Foods, yes. So he can't eat Nathan's? Basically, yeah, because his partnership. Conflict. I'm going to let Cam have this one. I'm not interested. Super forced.

Don't ever talk about letting me have nothing when this topic is a topic. Be honest with you. This is basically, only person who can answer this is Stat because there's no way I would have been looking through topics and say, let's talk about this tonight. Murder, what you think?

I would have never wrote that down. This is only for you, stat. You can say how you feel. Can I add like I try to find the most like range of things and that's like a trending topic right now. Cause this happens every year in New York. I was like New York. We're going to walk off and let you answer this. And you do your closing. This is all you.

You can actually start your own show right from here. Right here. Yeah. Check out, go straight in and check out the stat from here. Over and out. How do I feel about it? I don't't feel any way because i don't like them anyways that's all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is Outro Music