IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E TAKING VICTORY LAPS IN WEEK 3, MIKE'S TEAM GETS LIT UP BY THE BEARS & CRANKING IT IN MIAMI (PAUSE)

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's like, whoa. It's like, whoa. episode is sponsored by Underdog. They're dropping fire promos all season long, and today only, Underdog is hooking everyone up with a Lamar Jackson Gimmy pick. If you're new to Underdog, use code it is what it is when you sign up, play $5, and they'll drop $50 in bonus funds your way. So here's how Underdog works.
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Starting point is 00:01:15 My goodness. What happens, Mike? I'm in here. I wore my pink. Cam didn't show up today. I'm in all pink. What's going on? Is it Mawf?
Starting point is 00:01:30 What is this that I got on? He feels good right now. He feels good. Talk to me, baby. Paul, talk to me, baby. That Sunday night, yeah. You got that Sunday night win. And it was big. And I know the other side is the Cowboys slipped up and lost to Chicago, so you feel real good because you got both of those things.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Mike is a whole, Mike, don't, Mike, don't rush. it we got all week pause we got all week to deal with this remember what y'all told me this goes on the whole week Mike we got a good week ahead of us you know we got a whole week to talk about this we don't need to start right now we we can we can take our baby steps I'm here for it today Mike I got underdog on the side of me man I'm feeling like a champ right the boys are back in town man where's the guitar is that the boys are back in town look at the boys are back in town
Starting point is 00:02:38 Mike and Mike what was you doing in Miami what was this what was all of that you was doing Mike oh now that was for a couple things that was great that was fun don't listen you know you guys know that they do the cranking of the Cyrus
Starting point is 00:02:58 This is something new that Miami really just started before every game, they cranked the cyrus. And dude, you know, Jimmy did it for the Notre Dame game. And we're all of us players now, we're talking about, man, when is our turn? When is our turn? So Florida, that game, I got the chance to crank that siren. I was trying to break that mother brother.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I was, you know, man. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what we made. We talked about it. We talked about this. We talked about this, right? Just to let the audience in, what Mates and I,
Starting point is 00:03:32 we were talking about before the show, we were talking about how we just ride our teams wave. You know what I mean? Like, when we got a great week coming. If you lose, you say, damn, I got a bad week coming because you lose, you know. And that's just how we all are. But, boy, when I came out at Miami game, I was worried it was pouring down raining.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I'm thinking, It's Miami. Ain't nobody going to show up and pouring down rain in Miami when you got so many things you can do. But boy, it was packed, dude. I was hype, man. I almost tore that thing up, man. They'll never have a siren cranker like that before. The first time I heard them police sound like police Cyrus and they went chasing me.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I felt real good about that. You see what I'm saying. I didn't know who I'm going to put him about it. Mike, I didn't know what you. was doing. Pause, Mike. They showed the camera from a different angle, right? So all you see is the back of Mike head and I'm going like this. I'm like, what is Mike doing? They had to bring me up the speed on what was going on. I said, what is Mike doing? They said, oh, he's trying to get the siren to go. I said, Mike be doing too much. If it's not, if it's not you on the ground like a fairy
Starting point is 00:04:51 with what they call it, how the song goes. He wasn't there. I said Mike be wild And then Mike you in Brazil I don't know which Mike I'm going to get Pause that's why I don't invite Mike no way I don't know which Mike is going to show up You know Is it going to be Black Panther Mike
Starting point is 00:05:18 Is it going to be yep Yep he was a fairy Like which Mike is going to show And now we got sorry, Mike. I don't know which Mike. Mike, can you let me know which Mike is going to show up? Because I got places I want to invite you to, but I just don't know, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Right. Take Cam's word for. What did Cam say? And I really take this as a hell of a compliment with Cam said. You know, Sam said something like that, Macy said to me, he said, man, you'll be running in a lot of circles. I mean, you just be hanging with any and everybody all over the place, right? You know, and I communicate. I communicate with all of these areas of people.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So, yes, yes, I think that is a great call. Yeah, you blend in very well, Mike. One time I saw you, I think you was in Brazil somewhere. I said, what is Mike doing with his shirt off? Mike, what is going on with little white, um... The paint. The paint on him like he's from, like he was tribal. I said, like, Mike, Mike, you got to shut out, Mike.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You know, and that's when you know a nigger think he really in shape when he wear the shells around his neck and all the like. I said, Mike got to chill out. Yo, Mike, they were hating on you, Mike. I ain't going to lie. They were hating on you.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I say, yeah, yeah, I got to chill out. My man being, my poor, my God being in the gym. You're funny, though. So you say, I'm looking for a chair to show I didn't work it out. I told my boy, right? That's so funny y'all said. I don't know if I told you all this, but I told my boy that, man.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He was saying, my next birthday, I'm going to be 60 years old. And the Joker was talking about he's going to throw me the biggest party in the world. I said, wait a minute. I said, Joker, I'm lifting all these waves running. I'm not doing that for you to yell. This, man, I'm turning 60. I'm not doing that. So we can stop that.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You ain't doing me to party? You ain't doing me no party, we ain't doing no party. We ain't doing it, but he's an eternity. Statt, don't try to slow the showdown. Can we get to the main get-to? We're not. We're going to get to your team.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Can we get to the real get-to? This is what I'm here for. I woke up early this morning for this. I can't even be mad because this is exactly the day that you were waiting for you. We're going to get to it. And then real quick, Mike, I know you go viral almost every weekend, and I can't even be mad at you because nobody can say that you're not living
Starting point is 00:08:00 your best life. You are always having a great time, and I just think that's a testament to who you are. So if people are going to hate, I don't even care because they ain't doing what you're doing. That's what I'm going to say. But Miami, Miami clip was crazy. It was great, baby. It was great strength. Tregia, you should, where were you?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Why were you not there? Why were you not? I was, you know, I'm going to be there. The fake Miami fans is crazy. We talk about it. Yeah, Miami definitely, like, asked. Talk about it on the sideline. I told me, I said, yeah, so they were asking me about the show.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I said, yeah, you know, treas from here, too. They say, yeah, yeah, where is she? Why she not here right now? I was like, yeah, yeah, she had something to do. Yeah, Mike, you know, she's been hanging out with them Harlem guys and they forget where they came from, Mike. So that's what she's doing. She's forgetting where she came from.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I just went to a quick little concert. Hang it out with my guys, I got it. Yeah. Just went to a click little concert, but I'll be there homecoming. That's important. We love Miami. And shout out to Miami for asking me to be out there. I couldn't make it this time, but I will be there next time.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And we'll be there on the sidelines. Won't be doing what Mike's doing, but I'll be there supporting. That's all that matters. You're not going to do the shot run? No, but I'll support Mike if he does it. That's what I can do. That's what I can do. Okay, so let's get into that Chiefs game.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We said don't let the Giants win this game, and they didn't. The Chiefs get their first win this season. beating them 22 to 9. Mike, how do you feel about the Chief's first win this season? Well, it's a win, but it's a win against, you know, the Giants who everybody's beating. But you saw some things, you know, they got in the end zone because they've been struggling to score touchdown. They got in the end zone. But as we were talking about earlier with me, it still doesn't look like the Chiefs supposed to look.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You know what I'm saying? You would expect this thing. you put up some points against the Giants. The Chiefs finds a way so at least
Starting point is 00:09:59 they got to win and I'm going to give you that you got to win but it was against the worst team international football Mike
Starting point is 00:10:09 Mike come on now Mike you can't Mike any given Sunday Mike any given Sunday Mike
Starting point is 00:10:16 any given Sunday I can't I can't go with that Mike any given Sunday you got to be able to play every Sunday, Mike. Whoever they put out there, we're not responsible for, you know. I look at the
Starting point is 00:10:29 Giants, I can say they had a crazy first three weeks, right? But that's just their schedule. We don't make their schedule up. I'm not Roger Goodell. I don't want people putting Roger Godell problems on me now, Mike. When it comes to this Kansas City team, I would say we're not looking the way we should. Like, they're still dropping passes. One time a guy went up, you know, paws up the middle missed the catch almost got an intercepted it it just doesn't look at somebody patman holmes missed the throw too now that one throw he was trying well that was a that was a deep throw he tried to throw that ball so far though you know what I mean but he that's a normal hat trick play right so these are the things that used to work a lot of the things that used to
Starting point is 00:11:16 work are not working just like the slant play just like um when you got when you got people from the Giants running a touchdown back, that's just, that's not supposed to happen against the Chiefs. So when they got their first touchdown, I was already upset with that. I'm looking at it 6-6. I'm like, this is not the game I want to see. So I turned it off, came back. I saw Patrick Mahomes started playing the way he's supposed to play. But, you know, the two fumbles really is making me think, like, what's really going on? Something really got to be going on with this team. It just doesn't look the same even though we win. I'm happy for the win. I'll bask in the win all week, but I got to make a call. I got to make a call to the town, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Okay. I thought you said you're going to make a call because, you know, you're dog king. You're going to leave with the one. Oh, yeah. Hey, my team won, Mike. And realistically, when you look at the wide receivers, they're not having the type of year they should have. I don't know what we got to do. we need Tyreek Hill. It's time to look for a trade, honestly. I'm not liking this team, even though I mean, I love my team, but I'm not liking the way they're looking. Even when it comes to their offense, it's not clicking, right? So you got, you still got the best quarterback in football, but it's too many passes being dropped.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And we saw this two years ago when they was dropping a lot of passes. And then all of a sudden, the reps had to bail us out every game. game in the playoffs and I just don't want to go through that again right so they got they got to turn this around I'm not I'm not sure how how Taylor Swift plays into this and all of that but this they got to make some changes realistically I'm not blaming Taylor Swift you know no blame and Taylor Swift some guys come they got guys coming you know they got machine rights and those guys are coming um and they'll be adding to it and to help that that's that's what that's playing things right now in Kansas City, you know, you know, you got players coming that
Starting point is 00:13:25 you really make a difference. You got to find ways to win right now. Just find ways to win and try to make sure you get those players back. Because right now, the Taekwon Thorntons and all of those people are not the Rashid Rice and all of those people that you have on the side. Like, I'm really not, I'm really not even worried about Rice and them coming back. I think Pacheco need to be playing better than this right now. I also think that I wouldn't be my I wouldn't even mind if we're losing if we're getting 30 points because I know that's the the type of points you got to be able to put up in the playoffs to win games even though we're winning we're winning at 22 points that's not a that's not a championship team that's a team that's going to lose in the first round second round if that if you only could score 22 points you got to be at 32 you got to be at 34 points 35 if you'd really be a a a strong Super Bowl contender. And we know this by watching the game.
Starting point is 00:14:25 We know the first quarterback, the 250, normally is the one that's going to win the champion. I meant win the game. So all of these are the metrics that I'm looking at. I'm a numbers guy. So I just pay attention to the numbers. I don't pay attention to all the emotions and the, you know, the sirens and, you know, everything that stat is doing and cam with all his analysis.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I'm a numbers guy, right? So when you hit the numbers, I know where we're going based on the numbers, you know? Yeah. Well, I'll just say really quick. I know you're saying you're not worried about like Rashid Rice and Xavier Worthy, but those are like two key things that would help you guys as offense because you guys aren't going to be where you need to be until you have some of your main wide receivers back. So I can't fault them for that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And I know you're like, okay, 22 points because right now I feel like you are saying you feel like this is mediocre or the Chiefs. It's very mediocre. 22 points is like the Seattle Seahawks or like, you know, the Atlanta Falcons, those type of numbers. The Browns, the Bengals, the Cowboys, the Steelers. You know, the mediocre teams, man. You don't get the really elite teams and they start scoring 24 and 25. Just due to your history stat. I can't teach you everything on the show.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I know sometimes I'm saying this stuff. people are watching from the internet, they have no clue that I'm a genius. You know, I told them a lot of things 20 years ago. They're just finding out. I'm past finding out, man. It's on you, Stad. I can't tell you everything I know. Mediocre teams, but Steelers still have the better record than the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:16:07 But that's fine. It's okay. It's okay. Because, see, that's a part of the mediocrity that I'm talking about. You're excited that you're winning week three. I'm excited that we're winning a third Super Bowl. Do you see the comparisons here, Mike? Week 3, Super Bowl 3.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Do you see the margin of difference? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you're excited that you beat the Giants with wrestling. It's not like Steelers don't have the most brave. Like, we're not really comparing the same things right now. Mike, Mike, I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not focusing. on week three. I'm not even excited. We won week three. I'm more so looking for Super Bowl three. Can y'all speak my language, Mike? Can you instead speak my language? Super Bowl three versus week three. She's the champ of week three. I'm looking for Super Bowl three. Come on. I know he said we
Starting point is 00:17:10 don't. I should go ahead, Mike. No, I'm just saying I appreciate that's a good point. But Yesterday is yesterday. What we're discussing is today. And I understand you want to bring yesterday in to help boucher today. But right now, this is all you dig it. So I know you got all those other super poses at your day. But it's right.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Anytime you get a team, you got to get past that 30 point. You got to be average and pass that 30 points. Thank you, Mike. at doing anything in a championship form unless unless you're a team with one of an historically great defenses like the 85 bears or something like that because you know are you go to 85 bears I don't need to hear no more about the 85 bears who is that refrigerator perry and all of them right the defense the defense I'll just give me an example
Starting point is 00:18:12 to tell you that you you make a valid point because the only else other time you can do it with 22 points is when you have a historically great defense. And I don't think the Chiefs have an historically great deal. Well, when you got Doug Collins, right? What was his name, Doug Williams? Who was the black quarterback in D.C.?
Starting point is 00:18:32 That one is? Yeah. With Doug Williams? Yeah, but they were putting up points. I don't know how many of their points they average, but they were scoring points that game. Remember, he had, like, he had most yards in the Super Bowl. Most touchdown, that was Gary Clark,
Starting point is 00:18:45 Mark, Mump, and Rich. she's saying right where you're saying they were killing people they were putting up a lot of points that wasn't their defense that was their offense okay yeah and then real quick before we move on because mike i really want to get your perspective on this because i said this last season you kind of spoke on it and i think mace you agreed a little bit too with russell wilson now the narrative and i said it a while back and everybody thought i was being funny when i said he literally it seems as if he cannot see over the o line because he's throwing passes to basically nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:16 What do you think needs to kind of happen with Russell Wilson from here on out because he's just not not doing so hot? What do you think that the Giants can kind of look forward to with him or is there nothing for them to really look forward to? Just curious on your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Wait, wait, wait, Mike, wait, Mike, I can't let this go on like this. Stad, I know you're not throwing Russ under the bus. Week to week is crazy, Stad. You got to make up your mind. Do you, you're with him in Sierra or you're not? Because if I'm Sierra and I see you, I don't know, I don't know how this is going to go. I support their relationship, but I can separate his relationship from the game.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And what I've seen so far is inconsistency, which is why I'm asking what can be looking forward to with Russell Wilson as quarterback for the Giants. That's just that. Right. And at some point, when is it the time? Now, you're 0 and 3 right now if you're the Giants. And really, they did it during the Cowboys game. remember they sent in the young kid they sent him in and say let's go start getting some reps Jason dark let's go get some reps and this is when Russ was playing great in the Cowboys game
Starting point is 00:20:26 so you you you are prophetic and you're speaking here because the reality is I think they're already thinking is it time to move to the next kid to this young kid now you let Giants take on another loss and certainly too then they're going to point and say hey you Russ come on over here it's time to start getting some work with this young man to see what we can get
Starting point is 00:20:52 them because they already started that when they played in Dallas when they brought them in but Ross had such a great game they said well being maybe we got something let it run but maybe not I'm not going to lie
Starting point is 00:21:08 I like Russell Wilson I even support the Sierra move. I'm for the family, you know. This is Atlanta zone, you know, so I got to show some love here. But when it comes to the game, I think he just doesn't have the pieces necessary to be a success. When you think about it, yes, he had the two interceptions. But sometimes the interceptions come because you don't know your personnel and you're throwing in places you think they're going to be. and they're just, they're not running the route
Starting point is 00:21:40 you thought that they was going to run. Have that ever happened to you, Mike, where the quarterback and the receiver just is not in sync with each other. And it's not that you're just a poorer quarterback. It's not like you're throwing the ball away on purpose or you just got bad accuracy or something like that. Even though his QBR is pretty low, it's pretty low.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And he didn't have many yards, but I don't, I didn't expect. them to play well. I'm not going to lie. I didn't expect this to go well. I think I said it, you know, it won't, it won't last long, but I was rooting for him. Is that, is that like a... You were rude for him today because it was versus your team. Right, right. And I love Mace for that, man. Makes you right, man. You are a genius. You're brilliant. You know, you see what you just did. Thank you, Mike. I watch boxers all the time. They get their fights, and then, you know, when somebody beat him, they, you just got knocked on.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He wasn't that good. You just, he just knocked you out. You know what I'm saying? And the joke of me talking to his ego, say, he ain't that good. You should be waking up saying, boy, that who? He's great. Well, who ain't knocked me out? He's great.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So at least if he's great, then you could be on the heat. He knocked out. So when you just did, you just, you made sure if you just beat up on the Giants and Russell, You lifted him up So it makes your victory Look like you really have a great victory Thank you Thank you
Starting point is 00:23:07 Mike you all to me You know I get that from the great Floyd Mayweather right So Floyd every time he beats somebody He said he's a hell of a champion You know he's going to have a great future I said why does Floyd keep saying this Because it makes him look even greater
Starting point is 00:23:26 Shout out to the champ I always said that And I never understood why people don't see that Why you be waking up? Why didn't wake up, come out He wasn't that good He was knocked out Yeah, Floyd said
Starting point is 00:23:40 One time Floyd said You know, you got to take your hat off to him I say yo Floyd is the best That ever did it man He said you know you got to take your hat off to him He's a hell of a champion He lists all of the people he's beat He said but tonight you know
Starting point is 00:23:55 It was just my night tonight you know he didn't even say he was that much better than him because he leave that for your mind to figure out I'm that much better than him shout out to the Mayweather family man TMT is in the house that's fire that's real yeah last thing I'll add
Starting point is 00:24:12 because I heard what May said and I agreed to a certain extent but I already went through the Russell Wilson experience when he was with this dealer so I just know Giants fans good luck to y'all you got PTSD when it comes to that was a lot That was a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:28 One day it's great. Another day it's not. I don't have time for that. Unfortunately, you had a great little consistency little thing going on last season. So you know what that feels like. We did not have that. So it's frustrating. But again, shout out to Giants fans.
Starting point is 00:24:41 We will see what happens next for y'all. Okay. Next game, the Eagles came back from down 19 to beat the Rams 33 to 26. Mike, how do you feel about the Rams losing this one? Man, hey, the Rams lost this game early on. This is a great game, too, to watch now, because I talked about this prior to the game that if you don't get A.J. Brown involved. If you're the Eagles, you're going to have problems. And that first half, the Rams were moving the ball and they were stopping AJ Brown. And I can feel that simmering. It was simmering. You know. But every time the Rams moved, got in the red zone, they settled for field goals. They didn't score touchdowns. left them in the game and true to form once they got so far behind it was like you know the new
Starting point is 00:25:34 officer coordinator said okay i don't have anything else to lose let me just throw the ball up to a j brown and he took over the game you know now and and i got to give credit to jaylin hurts he made all the plays he need to make especially after starting the first couple weeks not even having a touchdown pass he made some plays to date so philly i thought that was a great win for Philly because those kinds of wins, especially when you're coming back and trying to repeat as a champion, they lock in your team in a great way because it wasn't an easy win. You know you were going up against a great opponent and you had to fight back and come back 17 points in the fourth quarter and you stayed together and got it done. Now, they'll hold on
Starting point is 00:26:20 to that moving forward. But now on the other side, the Rams, they're trying to feel what the hell what's going on. You know, we had them. And think about this, they blocked two field goals. Right. Yeah. You had to get them.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You blocked the field goal. Of all the things to do, you lose by getting that field goal blocks. So yeah, yeah, that's disappointing. That's disappointing if you're at a round. But I think very encouraging. You didn't like the style, but you love the results if you are the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, I mean, when you're a championship team, Mike, you know that's better than anybody. you have to be able to win the ugly games, right? So this is another pedigree of being a champion. I'm not going to use the word because I know you're watching me. You're watching me like the feds, but here it is. You got to be able to put up 33 points. It's the first quarterback to 250 and is also the team that can win when it's ugly.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Everybody is not going to have a great game. So sometimes in the playoffs, you'll find championship teams win a game that they should have lost because it was so close or somebody didn't do something right and they just, the great teams figure it out. So even when you got Mathis, Stanford, you got why he says his name, Puka.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Nakua? Yeah, even though they're playing, I mean, Puga was playing really pretty good. You still have Jalen Hertz coming through. Like, he's showing up the way a quarterback is supposed to show up. And I'm tired of people
Starting point is 00:27:51 acting like he's not a premier quarterback. They always acting like, like he's a game manager and is really Saquan doing everything. I think this time showed everybody and he continues to show that, no, I'm really who I say I am. So shout out to Jaylen Hurst. Shout out to Philadelphia. They're not my second team.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But I look forward to beating them too, you know. I look forward to beating them too. The commanders. You saw I we're rocking. We're coming. Hey, I see y'all. I see y'all. Keep up to good work.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Commanders look good. I'm just, you know, I'm just, I'm just basking, Mike. That's all I'm doing, you know, like, say, what they call it? Calgon. Take me away. Yeah. I went over Stadhead. Stad didn't know what I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:48 She said, Calgon. She don't know Batman. She don't know e-man. And she don't know Calgaard. She don't know Vita Osset soon. Have you ever heard of Vita Osset soon, Statt? I'm still lost. Brace on, man.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Brace is all right. Beat out of Susson said, if you don't look good, we don't look good. That's their, that's the, that's the, you have a whole list of spark notes of things that y'all say that I have no idea. But I'm learning. That's all that matters. Yeah, before Mabelene, it was a lot. be the outside soon. If you don't look good, we don't look good.
Starting point is 00:29:29 The more you know, that's my little tagline right there. What I will add, though, I don't know. This had to be a frustrating loss for the Rans for sure because they definitely had it. And then just seeing how, especially after halftime, I just feel like their momentum died, it's got to suck because even like Kairn Williams, he made a lot of really strong plays for them throughout the game and then just to kind of see it go, especially by fourth quarter with the two block field goals attempt like Mike was speaking about earlier. But overall, the game was really good and it was better to see after halftime because it kept you on the edge of your seat because you weren't thinking that the Eagles were going to be able to catch up.
Starting point is 00:30:03 But those are the type of big moments that you want to see, especially from, you know, raining chans from before. Like that's showing it's not just a surprise or it's not just an accident. Like they won because they were supposed to win. So the Eagles keep that up for the rest of the season. I'm not trying to like put in my early little Super Bowl predictions, but that's how it's starting to look because they just play. really really well in this game and they're like you said like getting past the ugly wins too it's like that's what
Starting point is 00:30:29 you need so yeah right you guys you guys love the crown third week wins I don't know what's going on with you and Mike you guys just love to give the championship out on the third week I'm over it I'm over it like can we go to the next kind of subject because
Starting point is 00:30:47 the next kind of stuff right yeah we're just analyzing and looking at just seeing as we as we monitor this walk to a repeat championship Yeah, these are poor predictions, Mike, these are poor predictions. How are you
Starting point is 00:31:04 get into the championship off a week three win? Well, I'm just saying, but that's what we're saying. We're trying to talk about how they need to get to what they need to be doing and what they are doing and what makes it look like they are doing it or are not doing it. And I'm going to tell you what they did today was feed the beast.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You see, that thing was stirring over there with A.J. Brown. But he won that game for him to date. So everybody will pat him on the back for two weeks, three weeks. He'll be fine. That's the kind of things I'm telling you. Mike, feed the beast is wow. Mike, feed the beast is wow.
Starting point is 00:31:38 What beast are you talking about, Mike? If Cam was in, he heard you say feed the beast, Mike, what beast are you feeding, Mike? This is wow. Mike you gotta watch out Mike I need a TV time out Mike I need a TV timeout Mike Mike you're not
Starting point is 00:32:01 Mike he's fat feed the pieces wow I don't know what you're thinking with me the pieces I'm not Mike you might have the trophy Mike
Starting point is 00:32:22 I have the trouble. Bees the beast is wow. Mike. I'm like, why is that one? But mine don't go in. And I'm surprised that didn't say anything. Statt, you letting him go out of here like this.
Starting point is 00:32:39 At this point, his quotables off the chart. That's okay. That's okay. I said he's living his best life. Mike, she said you live in your best life. It is. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Mike, we're going to put a pause on the pause. I am not about, I am not about to allow you guys to tell, let me make me take this, this brother ology into my entrepreneurial world with all these paws, paw, pa, pa, pa, paul, I don't have white guys looking at me like, what are you talking about? You are, you must be hot. You know, I'm not doing all. I'm not doing it. yeah and now you point snatching what is the point snatch you how they do it's that
Starting point is 00:33:27 now he's point snatching he's making a point this is wow mike why y'all keep policing me what is the point snatch about mike how does that mean when you point and then you snatch it how you do it's that do it again mike That's what I'm saying You know, I speak for a living All the time And I charge a lot For me to speak mind
Starting point is 00:33:57 You should And you should So I can't be paul-in Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I can be positive Good point snatch again, Mike Point snatch, get our ratings up He just made his points
Starting point is 00:34:11 Mike is good Mike is all good I got you, Mike, I got you. Last thing I vote quick, though, as far as the Eagles, I do just like to give credit words, due, because even down to, like, players who usually don't make key plays, making good key plays.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So, for example, Jordan Davis, their defensive tackle, they have that big boy running all the way down for a touchdown. Like, that's good to see that all players are adding to the success of their team, and we're not just depending on one person. because I feel like this, and again, this is not a diss, but for the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes has been making a lot of the key plays
Starting point is 00:34:47 for you guys' team this season. And it's like, it cannot rely all on one or two people. So I like that it's coming from all angles. And that's the culture that I talk about. Once you get going and you start winning, then other players start feeling like pause. They got to add their part in. And that's when you see the big guy running the way you was talking about
Starting point is 00:35:07 because now he understands this is a coach of champions. This is a locker room of legacy. And now every time they get on the field, people feel like they have to contribute. They have to add their name to the equation because you're not going to get a touchdown. So you got to get a sack. You got to get a fumble. You know what I'm saying? And that's how people start playing.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And that's the energy that I'm saying is missing from the chiefs, right? There used to be people that are like, okay, I'm not Pacheco or I'm not right. So I'm not Kelsey, but I can do this right here. And that's what we need them to do Let me say this one Because see now y'all got my head And now I'm trying to analyze you guys In this Paul's world that you are here
Starting point is 00:35:54 You see what I'm saying And just then, just then Let me just say let me tell you why I can't dig into this I mean Paul's Paul's okay Why I can't dig into this pause Because the reality is the reality Even just then
Starting point is 00:36:08 When you just said that when you got a locker room legacy. You know, my mind can break down. Locker room, legs to see. What are we saying? You see what I mean? Paul is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, we got to put you on Paul's time out now. Mike, you're reaching. I would get so lost with this pause thing, man. Mike, Mike, locker room legs to see? I can break back everywhere. to a dirty word or take it to a dirty place. Legs to see. You turn legacy into leg to see.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Oh, what do you mean? Paul? You know, pause after that? You can lock the room legs to see? You see what I mean? We can mess with words. Okay. Let me go.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yo, Mike. Mike, you reach it, Mike. That's two shots. Right there, Mike. That is definitely two shots. That is definitely two shots. That's a. Mike, come on, Mike, come on, Mike.
Starting point is 00:37:13 That's a foul right here, Mike. Mike, go ahead, reach. Go ahead, reach. Reach records. Good, Mike. Yeah. Well, that thing, though, I want to give stats from credit for she's right on this point, on this. Join Davis, that big fella running that long touchdown.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And remember, in the preseason, they talked about how hard he worked this all season, and he lost weight. And then that boy ran ninth by 18 miles per hour That dude's 400 pounds And I bet you he'll beat you in a fault Hey Mike Slow down while you hear You know what I'm going to do Mike
Starting point is 00:37:55 I'm glad that you're doing what you're doing We're going to start on Fridays Bringing our fans on the show We got to figure out a way to bring our fans on the show I've been talking to Nick about this We got to figure out maybe the fans ask us the questions
Starting point is 00:38:12 or something because Mike you say a lot of hot things that the fans tell me about but I would rather them come on the show
Starting point is 00:38:20 and tell you about it in Statt because Statt thinks she's low she's not low why I catch the stuff yeah and every time
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm on the show I'm looking at my phone because people are asking me they're like ask cam this ask cam that I say you know what I'm gonna make a day
Starting point is 00:38:39 Hey, for you to come in and ask, pause, Cam needs questions yourself. And Mace. And Mace. You ain't low. I mean. Everybody got to answer questions. At this point. One of these Fridays, we're going to start taking a Friday show and do that with our fans.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I think that would be really cool. That would be fire. I think that's dope. Yeah. Okay. So one more question before we had to break. So we were talking about the block field goals. And just in general, the games yesterday.
Starting point is 00:39:09 They had a lot of those. Yeah, there was, there's a little amount of those. So do you guys see that as more as like a luck thing or do you find that as more strategy? Mike, I'll let you go first. What do you think? Well, it is strategy because they try to make sure they put the best players on the weakest part of the field goal protecting, the field goal trying to block, trying to get to it. Like they put the big fella in the middle and he collapsed the middle. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:39 Sometimes, they'll put the real fast guy. Mike, please stop, Mike. You put the big guy in the middle and he collapsed the middle. Mike. Yeah, because the shortest way, the shortest distance between those two points, the line of scrimmage and the point that you want to dive at where the guy is kicking the football. You don't go forward to kicker.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You go where you're going for the point that he kicks the ball, kicking the football. Yeah, that's up. that's up the center of the offensive line. Up the center of the offensive line. Or you can get the very fast guy and make them run around all the way the whole offensive line.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Run around the offensive line. So there's strategy to it. You just can't put anybody anywhere. You've got to put the right people along the defensive line that you think can get to them. I think a lot of these punts are being blocked because they're taking a page
Starting point is 00:40:39 out of my University of Michigan playbook from Harburg, you know, that they're actually lining up the people the same way, like you said, to be able to get the best advantage at blocking that point. I think it's something that could have been done earlier. And it's
Starting point is 00:40:56 another team. I forgot the coach name in the NFL that he majors in trying to get that block. They're special teams. Who, which team is that, Mike? That they rally behind the coach. I forgot his name. He got a ballhead. Paul, he's always trying to get them to block a punt or get an off off.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Right. Every team, every team has one of those crazy special team coaches that, you know, because they're special team coaches, they got all the guys that are, they don't like the stars, they have all the guys and all the other guys that are second, third team and everywhere. So they got to bring all of those guys all together. All of them are kind of corky. be honest with it. All of them are, but a very important part of it.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Got you. Okay, y'all, we're going to go to break. We're going to return. We got to talk about them. Cowboys. Don't go anywhere. Woo-hoo. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Today, the Ravens will play a lines. play the Lions, which will actually be a very good game. That's a goody. Yeah, Underdog has Lamar Jackson at 282.5 passing and rushing yards. Do you have higher or lower? Of course, this is Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:42:21 The closest thing to Michael Vic, reincarnated. I got to go higher. Okay. I got to go higher. Derek Henry is at half a rushing and receiving touchdown. Do you have them higher or lower? Underdog always have this fascinated way of saying, something that that may not happen like they know something we don't know but if listen to this fellas
Starting point is 00:42:44 if if he doesn't end up playing or something of that sort then you get your money back anyway so I'm gonna go higher okay and Jamiro Gibbs is at 56 and a half rushing yards do you have him higher or lower I'm gonna take Michael I'm gonna take um Michael Irvin's pick on this which one would you say Mike uh oh oh Jim yeah 56 and a half rushing yards. I would say, I would say I would go higher with that. Yeah, we'll go higher. Okay, I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I'm going to go on Michael Evern on that. Okay, make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. Wait, wait, wait, everyone, listen, we're already close to a million. We need you to subscribe. Hit the button right now. If you're not hating, hit the button. What's you waiting on? We should have been at a million.
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Starting point is 00:43:51 hit that button Mike you know you know when I do what I do I'm doing it like I'm doing it for TV Mike this is why they pay me the big bucks Mike I just be quiet because scam be here I'd like to let him shine you know he's not here today so that part and
Starting point is 00:44:07 he's not here today. We were going to talk about the Bengals because he's not off the hook either because they're no longer 2-0. Yes. I think that's why he didn't show up. Funny how things work out sometimes. Killer, you think you low.
Starting point is 00:44:22 You're not low. You're not low. We see what's happening with your boy Browning. You're not low. The Browning experience. The Browning experience. It has begun because he ain't no longer 2-0. And it happens, it always happens just like that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 As soon as you start talking your shit and you're so excited, of course. Yeah, kill a Mayfield, kill a Mayfield. You can kill a Mayfield now. Okay. So the Bears, they picked up their first win in the Ben Johnson era and beat Mike's Cowboys. 31 to 14.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Mike, what went wrong? Yeah, Mike, what went wrong? First of all, that defense is still wrong. playing wrong, looking bad. But what really went wrong, because we always knew that was going to be an issue, what really went wrong is
Starting point is 00:45:15 you line CD Lamb up in the backfield and you handed him a pitch. You threw him the ball. I understand, you know, that we are starting to amalgamized players. That means bring them together, you know, does he use a running back in a receiver?
Starting point is 00:45:35 Okay. Okay, okay. There's a reason why we do not pay running backs much money. You know what that reason is? Why we don't pay them much money, we don't give them long-term contracts. You know why? Because they take too much of a beating. That's why you don't give them long-term money.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You don't take them long-term contracts. Mike, what is... Mike, what does this got to do with C.D. Lam? C.D. Lam is not a running back. That's what I'm telling you and I are speaking the same thing. Then they need to stop putting him. They put him at a running back, they put him at a running back and pitch them the ball.
Starting point is 00:46:15 That's how he got hurt. That's how he got hurt today. Playing running back. Understand this. I used to say when I played, I don't want to do special team. Jimmy Johnson put me on special teams at one time in college. We're playing rice.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I knew we were going to beat him. And Jimmy hated me. mistakes. I was a freshman. I didn't want to play special teams. I was like, come on. Coach just want to play with a receiver. He, Michael, you know, kiss some puns. I called, I called a few in practice messing around. Look good. He put me in a game.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I was like, if I do something right now in this game, he's going to do this all the time. Hell, I don't want to do this all the time. People get killed. Oh, these punt return teams. Mike, Mike. People are running full speed. So, so I told, I tell people, I said, listen. I'm like the old commercial.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You were talking about old commercial? I'm like a tucket fried chicken. I do one thing and I do it right. And we got to let C.D. Lamb do one thing and let him do it right. And stop all this other stuff. Stop all this other stuff. I don't want him getting hit by 300 pounds. Mike, you got to stop.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Mike, just stop, Mike. Whatever you're doing. A little underdog, Mike, where's the underdog? Please stop, Mike. Mike, listen. We got no stop without CD. And we need him. And you can't be letting 300-pounders tackle him.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Keep him out wide with plan wide receiver, where he's only going to be tackled by 190, 200-pound guys that he can handle. That's what we should be doing. Sometimes we outsmart ourselves. Smart dummies is what I call it. And I understand you want to get the ball in his hands. But it's a danger. Getting the ball in his game,
Starting point is 00:48:07 getting the football in his hands between the tackles. Mike, come on, man. I need to talk football. Mike, Mike, I'm on your side.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Mike, I'm on your side. Mike. We're the underdog. I'm on your side. I didn't see any joke. Mike, I think this has nothing to do with C.D. Lamb.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I couldn't disagree with you more. They did not lose. because of C.D. Lamb being hurt. They lost because of, what's his name? How a killer call him, Collab? They lost because of Caleb Williams. That's why they lost.
Starting point is 00:48:48 298 yards. Pause and four touchdown. You're not going to beat somebody. He's playing the way you're supposed to play to win a championship. Not that the Chicago Bears are going to win a championship. But when they're putting up
Starting point is 00:49:04 30 points, they're they're playing defense they're looking they're catching the balls they're doing pause everything that they're supposed to do to win this actually made me made him look like he belonged in that in that position pause like he's ready to take the next step i'm really impressed with this third week this is where i will celebrate a third week for caleb williams i'm not celebrating a third week for for matt stafford or for patrick or anybody like that. But when you got the young guys showing up like this,
Starting point is 00:49:39 this is a really good sign for them. And to do this against your team, Mike, it was a double win for me. It was a double win for me. You get the Cowboys to go back to being delusional. I don't know no team more delusional than the Cowboys. Now I get it. I used to hear Killers say this.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I hear Stephen A. say this. Now I get it. The Cowboy fans are delusional. How do you lose to the bears? Almost get blown out, pause. And you talk about you as playing close with the Philadelphia Eagles, and this is how you respond? But let me say something.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Let me say something. Because you're saying they lost me close to Caleb Williams was 290 yards and four touchdowns. It's Russell Wilson threw for a mile last week, and still they still lost. You see what I'm saying? I knew the defense had holes like Swiss cheese. I knew that.
Starting point is 00:50:39 But the way you combat that is you have an offense that put points on the board. And without C.D. Lamb, that's what I was talking about. That's the problem. It's not what Caleb Williams is doing. Because he had a great game and you give him credit. But there's nothing to that defense. Everybody will be doing that against this defense. The object is, or the strategy was the true.
Starting point is 00:51:05 try to outscore them with C.D. Lamb and George Pickens. Now, to the other point for the Dallas Cowboys is C.D. Lam's out, and he's out like, and he's been out like it was tonight. Last yesterday, George Pickens got to step up and play like a number one receiver. He's in his money year. This is your bag. You want it. You got to stand up and play like a number one to show all of these people.
Starting point is 00:51:33 This is your job interview. This is your job interview while CD is hurt, Gimpy, whatever, because he will not be well by next week. He's going to be hurt. Well, Mike, Mike, how do you leave out them taking turn throwing interceptions? How do you leave that out? Dag throws two, your man comes in, pause, and throw one? How do you leave that out?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Is that not the reason they lost? You explained it perfectly. I mean, before now, when you said, you know, when your team, the chiefs don't have all of their players and you need... Oh, my goodness, Mike. So he was throwing to the fourth and fifth and sixth guy.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's what we're talking about. That's why you need CD Lamb. So he'll be more open and those won't be in a session. You saved that statement to use that right there, Mike. Is that really what you're going to do? Is that how you want to conclude this show? You let me say it early. in the show only so you can come back
Starting point is 00:52:36 and use it at the latter end of the show, Mike. Are we ready to just say Dak Prescott is not what we think he is? He could be a great guy. He could be a philanthropist. But he's not going to be
Starting point is 00:52:51 a Super Bowl quarterback. We can put that on the record. I can't let you downplay a missing 88. You think they would have won Mike, everything is not about you, Mike. We couldn't win without this 88.
Starting point is 00:53:09 They can't win without that 88. That's why they 88. That's what it is. That's what we need that 88 on the field. They needed this 88 on the field. That's why I put that. Can I say something? You can't let this line go on like this.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I'm, I, Mike. Mike need an intervention. I am usually the person of reason. but I can't reason with this because there's a constant thing and we just talked about it in the last game that we discussed like we cannot rely on one person
Starting point is 00:53:46 to save everything for a team we're not going to ignore that CDLitt like Mace I got like that's this stat I like that's this stat I like ignore that CD Lamb is out because that is important and he's questionable return
Starting point is 00:54:00 we still know his status for the next week And yes, we are expecting for George Pickens to pick it up. But we always say constantly on this show, the best ability is of a ability. And unfortunately, we don't got that right now. I'm talking about we, y'all, we good. Y'all don't got that right now. So until that's figured out. Oh, yeah, stat said, we're good.
Starting point is 00:54:24 She tried to sneak that in. For now, for now, I can't get too excited. It's just the Patriots. But with Cideland being out. with your defense having some holes, making Caleb Williams look like he's one of the best quarterbacks out there. How was y'all just got a problem?
Starting point is 00:54:41 You got a problem. It is. It really is. It really is. And the only chance they have is outscoring a team, this defense, no way. And I say it even prior to this season, no way this defense can fill the holes that they have.
Starting point is 00:54:55 So, yeah, you got to score points. And people have to pick it up because he will not. be totally healthy. This falls on George Pickens. All that falls on George Pickens. He has to, he's been saying he's the number one. He's been campaigning, wanting that opportunity, wanting number one money. Here's your number one opportunity. Mike, you really, I don't know what you and C.D. Lamb got going on, but you cover C.D. Lamb at all costs. And C.D. Lamb, send Mike a check because Mike is always backing you. I don't know why, but
Starting point is 00:55:34 it's just an 88. He got hurt today. There's nothing to cover. He got hurt. He got hurt. What are you saying? But when he's on the field, he hurts people and defenses. But today, he got hurt real early. So there was
Starting point is 00:55:50 nothing to cover. I'm just, you know, just letting him know. Yeah, he's a difference made. Yeah. I mean, he definitely is, and it's unfortunate that he gets hurt. So hopefully he has a speedy recovery for you all because that is not fun and obviously C.D. Lamb does deserve his credit because he still is one of the best wide receivers in the league
Starting point is 00:56:06 and we do know that so him being out of course and unfortunate and like I get it that's your boy. You want the best for him and he's good. You know the potential he has. Because he wear 88. I would love to see C.C.L.L.combe That's all I'm saying. Don't run him in the 300 pounders. I understand.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I get it. I dig it. You want to try to get the ball in his hands. You want to get a football in his hands so he can but don't put them and don't let him run up on 300 pounds that's what happens yeah and that is fair last thing I will say I will
Starting point is 00:56:37 like Mesa said give credit to Caleb Williams because he has been scrutinized in the media a lot he did his thing so we also just have to make sure that we give him his because everybody was acting like I mean granted this was a interesting game for y'all anyways but like
Starting point is 00:56:53 it's good to know for the bears that there is potential there so don't count Caleb Williams out because you just never know. That's all I'm going to say. With that being said, y'all, that is all the time that we have for today, Mike. It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Yeah, Mike, maybe week four be better for you, you know, but all this week, you're going to hear about them chiefs, all right? I got, I was going to wear my chief's hat, but I, you know, I took it light today. I understand that in week three, I know you said that. I know you said that
Starting point is 00:57:29 so much week three, week three that you've nailed it in our heads. You've stained our brain with it's week three. And oh, that's right. Well, y'all got your first win today, right? In week three. Okay, that's what I'm told.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Just remember that now. Just remember that. Okay, oh, right. Oh, it is. Week three. Okay, let's just read. Between you to point-snatching. And stack, clocked in the teeth.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I'm over it. Sorry, he did. He did. He did. He did. Yeah. All right, man. Y'all get out of it over here.
Starting point is 00:58:13 All right. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want, nigger, everything nigger super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.

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