IT IS WHAT IT IS - MASE & CAM LOST IT ON J-PRINCE & D-WADE!! | S4 EP 60
Episode Date: September 16, 2024...
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It's a reunion, hello y'all
Uh
I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back
But no confusion, it's a reunion
Hello y'all, welcome back
Get murdered here, he counting money
He said, can't man, the hell we're at
I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Black Benz's and white Vigas
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How you doing?
Some things never change.
Some things never
change, you know?
Won't you
just go home, Pops?
I was looking for a call.
You're on the rotary phone earlier.
Split phone.
And a beeper.
Yeah, yeah.
In the morning, it's a beeper.
I didn't know we were here.
We was out.
I thought he was calling you on the rotary phone.
You know what, killer?
You know what? Oh, shit.
You know what?
Let me tell you this.
Hold on.
What are we talking about?
I'm ready to jump the gun.
Offsides, nigga.
Okay.
So, let's start
I think he said off sides
okay
twilight zone
okay so let's get straight to it
a lot of comments were made
and so I definitely want you guys
response to what people had to say
so first we're going to start with J Prince so he had a message for both of you guys' response to what people had to say. So first, we're going to start with J Prince.
So he had a message for both of you guys
after the comments.
He had a message for who?
For you and for you.
Both of y'all.
For me?
Yeah.
Specifically.
Because he added y'all.
J Prince has a message for both of y'all
with your comments after
what you guys had to say about Shakur.
He said, numbers don't lie.
Haters do. Let the haters say that he's boring
and nobody wants to watch him. Sorry to tell
you, it's just a select few of you haters.
As you can see, there's proof that he is the number
one ratings in any fight on ESPN this
year. The top three ratings since 2022.
And to all of you haters who want to escalate
that hate outside of the ring, I'm Shakur's
manager and I handle all his business outside
of the ring. In other words, Cam and Mace,
I will fade all his shots
and take all bets.
Yeah, chill, killer.
I got this one.
I got this one.
I got this one.
You're going to take all his fades
and take all his shots
and you handle everything out the ring all right
so then we talking to you then all right we starting with you since you the big homie we
starting with you that's how it goes around here um i i want to just start off by saying you are so
like lacking self-awareness like when you when you give such a lackluster performance
and then you think you can make threats to people because you gave a lackluster performance pause,
you don't have the right to tell me what I should like, or to tell Cam what he should like. That's,
that's not your place. Like is subjective right so if art is
subjective and i don't like something you you can't really get mad at us because we don't like
something and you're standing there with two i mean two hall of fame boxers that are constantly
letting their hands go so i think is is's crazy that Andre Ward let his hands go.
Terrence Crawford definitely let his hands go.
And then you walk out with these boxes
and you don't tell the next guy to let his hands go.
This is a lapse of judgment.
And I'm going to tell you another thing.
When you're dealing with older people,
they're the last to know that things have changed.
We're not your little niggas. Like the way you talk it i don't get what you mean we're not your
little niggas like for real all that big homie stuff that's for little niggas little niggas
have big homies we're not little niggas so we don't even respect big homies i know killer doesn't
and for me i never respected niggas in the streets
that's why i always got the problems i got niggas would tell me maze chill no chill for what who is
this nigga that's how i feel listening to this man like i want to respect you but i can't and
i'm gonna tell you why because if i got a little like the dudes
that raised me if i was out of pocket they would tell me i'm out of pocket they wouldn't let me
put them on a crash out mission they'll say yo mace listen listen around here we don't send
niggas to do nothing for us we don't pay niggas to handle our problems.
You got to put in your own work around here,
Lord, man.
That's what you were
supposed to tell them.
You can't go out here
and talk crazy
and then send me
on a mission.
Nah, this is where
the game got messed up
when young niggas
started sending
old niggas out.
And just because
this little ignorant nigga
got a few dollars,
he make all of you.
That's supposed to be real run after his mission.
This is a problem,
Jay Prince.
And I'm going to tell you like this. If you're 60 years old and you trying to be a street nigga,
you failed.
You failed.
You felt,
you felt,
I'm telling you this.
And I stand. My name telling you this and I stand
my name is Mace
I stand by this message
see
that's the murder you
that's what I'm talking about
with you right there
that's what I'm talking about
right there
that's
you can't be 60 years old
still trying to be a street
they just don't know
you like that
they don't know you like that
I think real quick though
I think I think real quick though I think
J Prince
He said it
He said it
I just don't even figure out
What the fuck
I don't know what the slang means
I don't know what the thing is
In the back
But I take the back
Whatever the bet
I take
I like that murder
Yeah I mean
Cause when you think about it
Right
Yes I know
She got more
Yeah I mean When you think about it right yes i know she got more uh yeah
i mean when you think because i just i just was with kanye a while ago and and we called j prince
on on um facetime so he was like you know y'all getting together good so i don't even know why
you would come at me with that energy you know i'm saying i was really i felt really disrespected
by him doing it right and certain people you to be able to come at it like that.
And I'm not one of them.
Well, let me ask you a couple of questions since we're here.
I'm going to give them my broadcast shit.
So murder.
How do you feel him coming at yourself and Cameron and didn't say anything to Kendrick Lamar
about the Drake situation
because anytime Drake
has a problem,
it seems like he runs
and tell niggas,
yo, puff.
Yo, niggas,
Drake, nigga, nigga.
How do you feel?
I mean, I want you to answer,
but how do you feel about him
calling you and your partner out
and didn't say anything about that?
You said something really profound.
He said something to Puff, right?
He said nothing to Kendrick.
Right.
He says something, and I know you're going to elaborate about this later.
He says something to the dudes in New York, and that didn't really go over well as far as what
um whatever kid that was that got the chain taken right and then he and you're gonna talk
about all this i'm gonna let you talk about it more in detail but he didn't say nothing to whack
like it's like so when you come talking to me i feel like you're very selective. This is exactly what I meant last week when I was talking about street niggas being selective.
They got select selections of who they think they're going to get tough with.
So I feel there's a must for me to say something because.
You can't be selective with us because we're not we're not we're not the weakest on the on the chart to deal that with.
We do commentating.
That's where we keep it there.
Cigars.
Cigarettes.
Fooka. Vapes.
Grapes. Strawberries.
Strawberries. Coconut.
Paws. Lavender.
We don't
dug no smoke.
Yeah, no. so just to elaborate
no I'm in
I'm in interview mode
since you're gonna go
this route this morning
he did say something
back to Wack
but Wack said
some of the most
disrespectful shit
I ever heard
I've been doing this
27 years
it was wild
it's so disrespectful
I'm not gonna repeat it
but he squashed it
after
like for Wack
would have said that I mean and i'm broadcast
cam right now i don't know if it couldn't have been subtle but i can't be cool with you after
you just said what you said like it was really bad matter of fact matter of fact this is what
we're gonna do okay i'm gonna interview now killer tell me how you were really sad all i should be
going viral real quick,
just so before I even get to the J Prince shit.
All I should go viral
so niggas never see how this started.
They only see how I be getting finished.
So for the people that's catching up on this
who have no idea how this started,
we gave our opinion to the fight.
We said this shit was boring.
All of us said it was boring.
There's a hundred niggas saying it's boring.
But because our shit go viral,
niggas think that they can keep talking to us.
Shakur Stevenson told us to get the strap
or strap up or better yet,
put the gloves on so he could fight us.
We said what he said
and then he started going crazy.
Everything was over with.
Me, personally, I'm sick of it, before I even addressed to Jay Princeton.
I'm sick of it.
I left it alone.
We are not talking about a nigga this much.
Before his fights or after his fights, in none of his fights,
however many fights he had in his career,
this is the most traction the nigga ever got.
My nigga, I had a meeting on Friday.
This is no cap. With some of my jewish partners
shout out to shapero's i won't give you first name shout out to my partner before the meeting
started they asked me murder why are you arguing with tupac's son can't i said what are you talking
about he said no we see it in the media you're arguing with, ain't that two bucks? I said,
that's not,
no,
his first name is Shakur,
not a lot.
He said,
well,
what does he do?
I said,
nevermind,
nevermind.
They didn't even know.
They never heard of the nigga.
Yeah.
But because we keep talking about the nigga.
We don't keep talking about it.
Exactly.
You don't know what it is. Our clips go viral all week. So it don't stop talking about exactly i don't know what it is our clips go viral all week
so it don't stop it ain't once we say it is viral all week so word to everything i love i swear to
god after i got off that meeting i said to myself i'm leaving this shit alone bro because niggas
don't even notice niggas you don't know i don't mind keep going yeah but i'm like this don't make
no sense so what happened happened is Saturday night,
I guess they interviewed him and he was like,
yeah,
is everything cool with you and Mason,
with Mason,
Kim and all that,
that,
that,
that fuck them bitch ass niggas.
Them niggas are still bitch ass niggas.
Ain't nothing changed.
This is what he says.
Saturday night.
This is a week after the fight.
So the niggas who run my social media,
our social media page, they got the same uh humor
that we got yeah they start putting up pictures of him when he's crying the olympics whatever
whatever the next day is when jay prince just say what she wrote hey yo my man listen james
let me explain something to you bro may said it exactly you 60 nigga you 60 what is you talking about what are you bro
i lost mad respect for you because i used to have mad respect you when you have to call with you
when you're lying um young boy nba up why the fuck you got to call with you and this is why
you're acting like that this is exactly why why he acting like that. Talking about you got young boy NBA umbrellas in his keys to score.
Young boy NBA told y'all niggas to eat a dick.
This is what he said.
This is what young boy NBA said.
Wack World 100 was the most disrespectful.
Wild disrespect.
I ain't even going to repeat this shit Wack World 100 said.
Mad disrespectful.
Drake is beefing with Kendrick Lamar as we speak.
I have not heard this the first time
drake got into some shit and i hear you say shit to kendrick lamar now why do you think that you
could tell us what we can and cannot say my nigga control your nigga control that nigga ain't nobody
gonna tell a nigga get the strap and then we gonna sit there and be like hey hey i think we we should shut up nah nigga
this ain't no this is not 1982 bro you cannot sit here and tell niggas get the strap and then
niggas be quiet nobody know that part because i should just be going viral you bargain you bargain
james you bargain my nigga and i'm gonna leave it at that i don't know what bet you talking about
all that other slang then bet whatever bet you talking at that. I don't know what bet you talking about. All that other slang.
Whatever bet you talking about.
Bet it. I don't know what's bet it.
Bet it.
Bet it. Bet it. I don't know what's bet it.
Before we even move on
from this, I got to ask, do you guys
feel like there's a beef?
Because there's literally a full-on
article, even from Billboard, talking
about the Shakur
versus Mason Cameron beef. Explain.
Giving timeline and timestamps
and posts. Do you guys even feel
like there's a beef? Or do you guys really feel like it was never that
big of a deal? No, I don't think
it was a beef at all. I think
we're going to continue to do exactly
what we do. Before we slow
down, we're going to pick up the speed.
We're definitely not slowing down for nobody.
Anything come across this desk, we are responsible to tell a truth and to tell it exactly the way it is.
We're not going to ever sugarcoat something for anybody that comes across this platform.
And so make sure when your sports come across us,
that it comes across us the way you want it to be heard.
Because when we see a fight, we have to call it the way we call it.
When we see basketball, we got to call it the way we call it.
And we're not changing for nobody.
That's what makes us different.
And that's really the best take, to be totally honest with you.
Look, a great take is this.
Listen, and that was a great take mace when i put
out an album or mace puts out an album if somebody don't like it we're not running around chasing
down everybody that don't like the album yeah if you don't like the album then you don't like the
album we can't sit here threatening niggas yo you don't like my album get the strap what what are you talking about yo when i see you i'm gonna fuck, yo, you don't like my album, get the strap. What?
What are you talking about?
Yo, when I see you, I'm going to fuck you up because you ain't like my album.
Your craft is your craft.
If you're not good or not excited at your craft and niggas are saying that, that's niggas' opinion.
Yeah.
Just like we're entertainers.
If niggas don't like our music, then we can't sit there and chase down everybody that don't like our music and i don't think we need to explain that and i don't like explaining myself to niggas whatever
whatever it is what it is like we said i know the reason on some g-shit murder i promise you i was
leaving this alone but yesterday you know it started being all over the blogs and being
everywhere else i'm like i'm not responding to this nonsense.
Because just like Stats said, Billboard is publishing this.
And this is not, I'm talking to y'all, not even the audience.
Honestly, when have we talked about this nigga this much in the media?
I'm talking about any fight.
You can sit there, any fight he had.
No, at one point we were saying that he would be a good match for a tank.
And when he was fighting good, we spoke of him as he was fighting good.
When he fought bad, I spoke of him as he fought bad.
I don't want to change.
I keep the same energy.
I'm talking about this long.
Yeah, we haven't.
Or any other fight.
We don't talk about nobody like that.
Bro, I'm talking about this is...
All right, this is what I'm saying.
I get what you're saying.
The fight was a week and change ago, bro.
This is still...
What did you talk about?
To me, niggas is using this for publicity.
To be totally honest with you,
my personal opinion is because
you didn't get this much traction before any fight,
let alone after a fight.
This is publicity, and you're not using niggas for publicity.
At the end of the day, look, this is dead serious,
and I know niggas are going to think I'm clowning and joking or anything else.
If niggas was smart, call us to promote your fight.
You don't need Delahoya.
You don't need Bob Arum. You don't need Bob Arum.
You don't need Eddie Hearn.
This is the most traction niggas got.
But niggas is emotional.
We nigga pay-per-view.
Secondly, real quick before we-
No, that might be a great idea.
No, it's a fantastic idea.
Not just promote it.
We should be sitting there commentating when he fights.
Yes.
Now they gonna be mad at that. But we can promote it we should be sitting there commentating when he fights yes now they're gonna like they're gonna be mad that but we can promote it we can be your promoter nigga listen you never got this
much traction we could the death series i know it's gonna be like oh niggas think about it you
and bill boy you ever been in billboard nigga you and bill boy you want t're on TMZ. You made it. You made it, nigga.
You made it.
You made it.
You made it. You're welcome.
You made it. You've never been
on TMZ outside of
boxing.
You've never been in Billboard. This is Billboard.
We Billboard, niggas. We brought you along.
We should just... I know you're
going to be like, oh, niggas troll. Nah, I'm serious.
Think about your next fight. Think about
it, like, real quick, right? Your next fight.
And James Pritchard's a businessman.
He should understand this. And I know he got
other shit to do. This kid, I know
he got to have other shit to do, nigga.
He got to. Think
about it. You give us your fight, your next
fight. Three, four
weeks before your fight start we talk
about hello hands fighting this week get your pillows ready nigga we gonna get your shit lit
because jay prince the way it started jay prince read the numbers from your fight and
he turned the comments off because the comments was going crazy. I read it when I was on the way to work.
And he's like,
the most watched boxing match this year on ESPN.
And all the comments,
every comment.
ESPN is free.
That's what they said.
They said,
this isn't pay-per-view.
They said this ain't pay-per-view.
Every comment was talking about,
it's free.
It's like,
bro,
why would you show the free numbers?'s part of the cable provider you ain't gotta push order and do you want to accept 9 79
79 night nah nigga it's free posting them numbers didn't mean nothing, bro.
Nothing.
If you need help, we're here.
We got you here right now.
It's a week and a half after the fight,
and we still talking about this.
I don't do big homies, bro.
I don't do that.
And there you have it.
So moving along, Dway wade responds to the reaction you guys had when i
mentioned that he had a potential nail care line coming it's not confirmed that's what we talked
about he just commented it's the oh goodness for me cigarettes hookah. What else? Newports.
What else?
Vapes.
What else?
Cigars.
We here for all the smoke. So if you point any smoke our way, just make sure you can take it.
Pause back.
I like D-Wade.
I was about to say, I think that was funny.
D-Wade is-
At least he could take a joke.
Yeah.
And not only a joke.
Yeah, it was a joke.
Yeah.
I'll fuck with D-Wade off that response
because D-Wade could have seen him
and got sensitive like other niggas.
Yeah.
D-Wade seen that shit,
he's like,
these niggas is funny.
He know that we fucking with them.
That's my nigga.
Shout out to D-Wade.
Look, we got to give D-Wade a lot of credit.
Niggas don't remember last night.
D-Wade is arguably
the second or third best two guard
in NBA history.
If you want to,
not a fact, not second.
I'm not putting nobody over Kobe.
Second, we could go third or fourth,
depending on if you like Allen Iverson
or you like Dwayne Wade.
But look, top five,
let's do this,
a top five two guard,
three-time champion,
took a backseat to LeBron James so he could win another championship.
Got a finals MVP with Shaq on the team.
What he wants to do after his career, congratulations.
Don't matter what it is, bro.
I respect what you did basketball-wise.
Off the court, it seems like you're having a great time enjoying life, whether it's with your son
or your wife or anybody else.
It seems like he's genuinely enjoying himself.
Because sometimes D-Wade will be wearing
some wild shit for us, and niggas will make fun of him.
He'll look at niggas like, so fucking what?
I don't give a fuck.
It looks like he's in a great space in life, man.
And I'm glad you know we was fucking with you.
We ain't got nothing but love for you up here, bro.
Yeah, and can I just say, it's so funny to me
because that is a good perspective,
but that's the point that's not going to get posted.
People always try to jumble things up,
but watch the show, you know what it is.
So I want to make that clear.
Okay, so Jaron Ennis had his fight the other day
when he knocked out his opponent, David.
He claims he had an okay
performance. What did you
guys think about the knockout?
I didn't see the fight.
Exciting,
nigga.
Action, nigga.
Action, nigga.
Action, nigga. I was up
the whole fight, nigga.
That shit was action, nigga. Shout out to Anderson Philly, niggas. Y'all niggas about that action, nigga. I was up the whole fight, nigga. That shit was action, nigga.
Shout out to Anderson Philly, niggas.
Y'all niggas about that action, nigga.
I was up the whole fight, nigga.
You put on a great performance, man.
I know his ultimate goal is really to fight Terrence Crawford.
The guy that he fought, Terrence Crawford, stopped him in six rounds.
And it stopped him in five rounds, which is making more leeway for him to want to fight Crawford.
Me personally, I'm not calling Crawford Floyd,
but right now he's the creme de la creme of boxing.
Until I see something different,
I'm not saying anybody could beat Crawford right now.
That's just my personal opinion.
I'm not saying anybody could beat Crawford right now.
That's just my personal opinion.
I even got Crawford beating Canelo if they figure out the same weight. If they figure out the right weight to fight at, I got Crawford beating Canelo.
So I don't think Ennis is there yet, but I think he's on the way.
He's on the way.
I think you need a few more fights, a little bit more experience,
but we talk about action, nigga.
Action, nigga. Action, nigga.
Action packed.
Let me ask you this about Ennis.
And shout out to Philly.
Philly was very good to us coming up and music and everything like that.
So we got a lot of love for Philly.
Yes, sir.
And I was thinking, so with boxers, it seemed like people like to fight the person.
The person they want to
fight has already beaten so why wouldn't he fight earl spence next why wouldn't he ask for earl
spence uh and this yeah i think he wants the best of the best i think if errol spence would
have beat crawford he would have asked for um ever spence if he beat crawford. But I don't know, to be honest with you,
he's really good.
He's undefeated.
His record is, I think he only has like
two or three fights.
What's his record with knockouts?
I only think he had a few fights without knockouts.
To be totally honest with you,
this is my opinion.
And this is just my opinion.
I don't want that fight right now
if I'm Errol Spence.
Because let's say you lose,
even if it was by decision,
and I'm not saying he's going to lose,
but if you do lose,
that puts you on the back burner.
I wouldn't take that fight next
if I'm Errol Spence.
I know Errol Spence probably wants to go back
for Crawford immediately as well.
But we only tend to seem to remember yesterday like i said
errol spence because he got beat so bad against crawford we forget what he was doing to people
yeah that's why i said he was hurting niggas you know whoever was uh mikey garcia who was a monster
at the time a bunch of people i really focused really focused on that Mikey Garcia fight because that nigga was undefeated.
Everybody didn't think that it would be an easy fight for Errol,
and it kind of was an easy fight, even Danny Garcia.
So I wouldn't take that fight.
I wouldn't take Crawford.
I wouldn't take Boots.
I would get myself together because if I'm not mistaken
he just had eye surgery
make sure you got
everything intact
and then
pick and choose
who you want to fight
after that
but I think that
Ennis if you presented
an arrows fight to him
he would definitely take that
because that would build up
his status
we got to think about this
I know it was a hometown fight
but he still sold
14,000 tickets
in Wells Fargo Arena
which is a lot of tickets for
a fighter that's known in boxing but not necessarily known you know like i'm talking
about the and everybody coming to see him et cetera et cetera everybody don't necessarily
know him just yet but i think he's right there though he's right on the cusp i think when it
comes to boxing a lot of these fighters
they got to start fighting more than just once or twice a year you know you got to get back to fighting three times a year if they want to get even anywhere close to that floyd record
they're gonna have to start fighting more and i think people are just way too selective or who
they're fighting they say we don't know boxing but we know enough boxing to know that. You got to start fighting
more than just two times. If you want
to be celebrated, you want to be that
guy, that guy on
everybody books, no matter who's
talking, then you got to start fighting
at least three times a year.
Right, and then
What was his record again?
Errol Spence's or
And his boots.
I want to know his name.
Yeah, he's 31-0, 28 wins by knockout.
Yeah, he only got three fights without a knockout.
Dangerous.
Yeah, that's why I'm saying he got to fight more
because there's a lot of people that he could fight.
Keith Thurman.
You know, one thing I liked about Errol Spence,
he fought everybody and he wasn't ducking nobody.
It's like,
you want to fight next week?
Man, you could fight.
Then he would go on
to Danny Garcia.
Even Sean Porter
gave him a thrill of pause.
I thought if Sean,
if Sean Porter
didn't get knocked down,
though,
he would have won that fight.
And then,
Earl Spence's 28 wins.
22 by knockout.
See,
that's what I'm saying,
though.
To,
to,
get to your point, Murda,
I think you're saying he needs to fight more known boxers
because he has more fights than Errol Spence,
but more knockouts.
Errol Spence only got 28 fights.
Homeboy got 28 knockouts, let alone 28 fights,
but it's not the known fighters
that we're used to seeing against.
So I think when you sit here and we're branching
Danny Garcia,
we're branching Sean Porter,
we mentioned Mikey Garcia
and Terrence Crawford,
but we know the other fighter.
We don't necessarily know
the other fighter
that he's fighting.
But is that by design?
Because what they're saying
is niggas is ducking them.
That's what they're saying.
Nobody wants to fight them.
And when people are ducking you,
you got to take a page out of Floyd book and fight people for the amount they wants to fight him and when people are ducking you you got to take a page out
of floyd book and um fight people for the amount they want to fight for just to get the fight
because if you know winning this fight is going to catapult you to super real mainstream super
stardom then you got to be willing to do that we watch floyd do that for oscar we watch um oscar
even do it when he first started so it's like
when you know this is the fight that's gonna take you there you gotta be willing to take less
because you know if you win it you you're there now okay we're gonna go to break and then when
we return we gotta talk Colorado football don't go anywhere can you tell us a little bit more
about that I mean is there I was selling crack on a private jet i've been i don't get the shot
make sure you go on the line
order some shirts and everything else but so i'm gonna do some cheeks after sports
jewelry and bikes nigga black benzes and white figures now i'm out here and i'm looking for
more chandeliers and light fixtures now i don't like niggas what's wrong with me i'm a high nigga
but there's 44 turn the mic to jordan i'm looking say take flight welcome back now let's get into
our underdog fantasy picks of the day so we're going to do the upcoming season game averages
underdog fantasy has steph curry at 27 and5 points per game. Do you have him higher
or lower for an average?
Can you be exact?
You're funny.
You know, sometimes you mean
USA, you end up
talking about the regular season. But if you're
talking about the NBA, then
27, I could
see Steph averaging.
I'm going to go higher.
I think he's going to have to have a breakout year.
What am I mean, breakout year?
He's going to have to have a very efficient year
because he's not going to have certain pieces there.
And I think 28, he definitely can get 28.
And this is for the season, not the Olympics.
Yeah.
Definitely higher. and this is for the season not the Olympics yeah definitely higher
nigga
nigga got
Keenan and Kel
on the fucking
off season
higher
okay
Luka is at
9.1 assists
per game
for the season
do you have him
higher or lower
I meant
Cam
that's a lot
to average
yeah
but I think
he'll be right around
9 so I'm gonna go lower cause Clay is there anytime you get collapses that's a lot to average. Yeah. But I think he'll be right around nine,
so I'm going to go lower because Klay is there.
Anytime you get collapses, you got Klay there now.
Their offensive, Jason Kidd, I'm going to go lower only
because I think it's going to be right at nine or underneath.
If it's high, it's going to be like a little bit,
it'll be close to 10 assists.
But you got to think about if Jason Kidd gets this offense together,
they could really be dangerous.
Me and Mace always allude to how Kyrie gets in and Luka walks away
or Luka walks away or Kyrie walks away.
With Klay Thompson, this makes this very different.
A sniper on the wing, plus you got your big man
that was doing work in the playoffs for you, Gafford and Lively,
if I'm not mistaken.
And now you don't know where the ball may go if the defense is not on point.
I think it'll be a smidge below 9.1 for underdog.
That's a good one.
Yeah, that was a good one.
That's a good one.
I'm going to go smidge underneath nine.
Yeah, and I'm actually going to say looking at the NBA season
last year that
he's going to have to get 10 assists
in order for them to be the
team they should be. We saw that
this year, like him getting a lot of points
that don't necessarily turn
them into champions. If he want to be champions,
he's going to have to get 10 assists.
So I'm'm gonna go out
on the ledge and say he will get higher well and then kevin durant is at the average of 27 points
per game do you have him higher or lower mace um my this is this is my favorite player um
27 hi kevin direct yeah Your player? 27. Hi.
Kevin Durant?
Yeah.
I think he'd be right at 27.
I'm a little higher too, though.
Okay.
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So looking ahead to college football,
got to discuss Colorado.
Jador claims Colorado is every team's Super Bowl
when they face them.
In regards to the pressure that is on them for the season.
Do you guys think he is right?
I know that last year.
I'm not sure.
If.
They all the recruits or people that came through the portal prime Prime got, Coach Prime that is,
but he's talking about a lot of niggas,
and I've seen a couple niggas that signed,
so they should be significantly better from last year.
Next year, I don't think,
and I'm not taking it away from Coach Prime,
I think he'll be the media monster,
pardon me, the marketing monster that he is.
He'll have everybody riled up.
He'll have everybody there, people to show up the tv stations the stars the uh the lights cameras
the whole shebang will be there but i don't think this year is going to be as big as last year
unless they start winning now if they get off to uh six seven and oh start something like that
then it'll turn it back
into the Super Bowl. Last year, Shador
was right. Every game was the Super
Bowl for whoever came to play
Colorado
because we already
seen how Deion markets.
It's kind of like,
and I'm not comparing it at all,
but we have to look at people's jobs
and what they do.
The same way that we're sitting here talking about Bronny,
we'll go to Bronny,
let me just use Bronny for an example real quick.
He got close to $8 million guaranteed
as the 55th draft pick,
and people are hollering,
saying he shouldn't get this, this, that, and the third, whatever.
Even though we know his father could throw that out of sock drawer to him.
But we're not looking at the job that Rich Paul did.
Rich Paul has a job to do.
And when he does his job and it's executed to that extent,
his job is done.
That's all he can do.
He can't get on the floor and shoot for Bronny.
He can't get on the court and shoot for LeBron.
He can't get on the football field and pass for Jalen Hurts.
His job is to get them the most money and the most exposure
and the most playing time and negotiate all that that he can do.
Now back to Colorado.
If Deion Sanders,
since he came into sports period,
I won't even say professional sports,
but I'll start at professional sports,
been a marketing genius,
whether it's been with the Yankees,
whether it's been with the Dallas Cowboys,
whether it's been with the San Francisco 49ers, whether it's fucking been with anybody,
whether it's as a coach,
whether it be talking about HBCUs and the attention he brings to HBCUs,
whether if he gets to Colorado and makes that until a fucking 500%
or whatever his turnaround ticket sales and everything else.
They won one game previous to that.
They start their home opener, not even their home opener,
their season opener last year to a team everybody thought
they was going to get smacked by
end up beating them
he gets on and pumps up the whole team
yeah nigga
do y'all believe now?
I told y'all motherfuckers
so now everybody's watching him
he can't get on the field
and catch the passes
or throw the passes
or run the football etc
now it's his job to execute as a head coach and make sure that everybody's
ready throughout the week, but they have to execute the game plan as well.
So a lot of teams last year were coming to Deion's head,
Sanders senior, that is coach prom, because he knew how to market.
It's up to you kids to fulfill the plan that he's laid out for you.
And we're not going to act like
he's not a Super Bowl champion.
He doesn't know what it takes to win.
But you also got to have the right personnel.
So I agree that,
and I was long-winded on that answer,
but I agree that last year
it was everybody's Super Bowl.
I don't think so much this year
unless they go 5-0, 6-0,
then it'll get back to the hype train that
it was at the beginning of the season. But Coach Primer's still out of that thing lit.
Yeah. I think when it comes to Colorado that they will be like a Super Bowl for people. I think the
bullseye pause is still on their backs. There's teams that want to beat them. There's people
that want to prove that Deion doesn't belong out there.
That narrative is still, you know, in the waters.
And when it comes to the team that they had last year, I think that team was supposed to be special.
And I think if Travis Hunter doesn't get hurt, that that team would have been special, even though they lost.
that that team would have been special, even though they lost almost like their last nine,
got one win out of their last nine games. I think a lot of those games will be Ws. And when you bring in Warren Sapp, Warren Sapp is not there to lose. You don't get somebody like
Deion and then you add Warren Sapp to that coaching team,
and they not be looked at as a Super Bowl team when it comes to college sports because when you got that kind of cachet on the sideline,
they should be able to work magic and get the best out of their team
because that's offense and defense.
And when I'm looking at the team that they're bringing back in this year,
they got a lot of talent.
They got a lot of talent.
And Deion is going to be louder than last year.
I don't think he's going to tone it down.
Shador is not going to stop throwing his watch up every time he scores.
So, you know, teams are going to want to beat them.
And I think they're going to be more prepared because now they know what they expect.
This is not the swag.
They know exactly what they expect. And I not the SWAC. They know exactly what they
expect. And I think they come back to get revenge. It's not like revenge. It's not like get back.
Okay. And then before we get back to a couple more college football questions,
I want to pivot super quick. We got to discuss Jalen Brunson. So he's signing a four year,
$156.5 million contract extension with the Knicks.
This is $113 million less guaranteed than he's eligible to receive in one year.
So what do you guys think of the decision? Say that number again.
That sounds wrong.
Yeah.
$156.5 million in four years.
Tripping.
This is, this is, he must really love them people from Villanova.
Yeah.
I understand that.
I love killer too,
but I need my bread.
And I know killer love me pause,
but you got to pay killer.
They call us the other day.
They say,
yo killer doing this show.
I said,
bro,
listen,
that's a fact.
Panera. We need our bread. listen. Yeah, that's a fact. Panera.
We need our bread.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not to interlude it.
They'll always be like,
you know,
I ain't going to go too deep
into our business,
but
I just want to put out there,
we're the only rappers
at this,
I'm not going to say only,
let me cut that out
for niggas,
don't name niggas.
We're getting over
150,000 to do shows.
We're still grabbing 150,000 for shows.
It's incredible.
Yeah, I don't get in shape unless it's a show.
Thank you, God.
I just want to tell you that.
We're still grabbing 150,000.
A piece, mind you.
So when we're grabbing these 100,000s and 150 150s and I'm going to get into our exact number.
And that's like 30 years later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's amazing,
man.
It's more than what we was getting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
God is good,
man.
But back to the original shit,
I tell me something and I say,
yo,
they got 125 for us.
Cam,
it's a moment.
You have to realize
me and you is a moment.
I can't do it for 125.
We haven't spoken in 20 years,
so I don't understand
how you could think that's cool
if I was by myself,
maybe,
or you was by yourself,
maybe.
But us together is a moment.
I can't do it.
I said, Mace, it's 20 minutes.
Cam, it doesn't matter if it's five minutes.
It's a moment.
I said, all right, well, tell them what you want.
My bad.
But it always works.
I can't lie. This nigga draws a hard ball. Yeah, my bad. But it always works. Yeah, dude.
I can't lie.
This nigga drives a hard ball.
Sometimes I think the nigga crazy.
I ain't going to hold you.
I remember one deal we was doing.
We said some wild number.
They ain't call us back for two days.
You was scared, nigga.
You said you was scared. You said they ain't call, you were scared, nigga. You said you were scared.
You said they ain't call back. I said, murder, you might owe me 19 million.
They ain't call me back.
Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt you there, but.
Yeah, basically, just thoughts on it as a whole.
I know you're saying he was like his teammates.
Yeah, I think he must.
This speaks to the love of the game.
This speaks to the love of him and his dad.
You know, this is a lot of love, the show New York.
Shout out to you, Jalen Brunson.
Shout out to your dad.
He was a good player as well.
You know, shout out to World Wide West.
You know, you guys are doing phenomenal things out
there in New York.
I was just informed
about that. Got on the phone with Wes
He let us know that
there's people out there being a part of this
whole resurgence of New York
basketball and I want to just say
thank you for turning our
New York Knicks around.
There's a lot of love though Killer $13 million worth of love
man listen
I ain't gonna say nothing bad cause niggas in New York
gonna go crazy on me like yo
Killer don't start that shit
yo you buggin
cause I already had
this conversation with a few
New York Kniggas.
See, that's a nigga who want to win.
He don't care.
It ain't about the money.
It ain't all about that.
Like I said, $113 million difference.
Crazy, my nigga.
But I will agree to the few niggas
that I did speak to, man.
He must want to really win.
You know, to turn down 113 million
dollars next year like you signed for 156 and could have got uh 26 what 270 some shit like that
he liked this goes to show this one this is what i take from that you really love new york you're
not you didn't grow up far from there you love the niggas that you play with you know this is
really some dope shit to be totally honest with you to be in the n You love the niggas that you play with. You know, this is really some dope shit, to be totally honest with you.
To be in the NBA with the niggas you went to college with is dope
because half the time y'all all split up and go to different places,
so on and so forth.
And it's not even like they're 10, 15 years removed from college.
You know, they've been in college maybe like eight, nine years ago.
I think it's really dope on your part.
Would I have done it?
Absolutely not.
I would not have done that.
Because you know why?
And this has nothing to do with Jalen Brunson's decision.
I think it's outstanding what you did.
But they're not going to do the same for you
towards the end of your career, the next.
They're not going to ever make up that $113 million.
When it gets to the end
of your career and i hope you have another 15 20 years and you and pause to play i'm hoping it's
nowhere near your career but they're not gonna look out there's gonna be all type of rumors when
you turn 36 to trade you and and xyz i see memes build that nigga jaylen brunson a statue now
everybody loved this nigga like it, it was an amazing move,
but organizations do not show the same love.
That's the reason why Dwyane Wade
ended up being pissed with Pat Rowley.
That's the reason LeBron James
ended up being pissed with Pat Rowley.
They took shorties to play together in Miami,
and they actually won two championships.
Not only just played together,
they went to four straight and won two out of four.
And when it was time to renegotiate,
Pat Riley said,
I ain't got it like that.
And the niggas was like,
word.
So,
we went to four straight chips,
one, two,
and you ain't got it like that.
Nah, man,
I ain't got it like that,
my nigga.
And niggas left,
even like to see D-Wade
more than LeBron,
to me,
because D-Wade was there
the majority of his career.
To see D-Wade on Cleveland, I didn of his career. To see D. Wade on Cleveland,
I didn't like it. To see him
with the other teams that he played for,
I didn't like it. That nigga's a
Miami Heat. They was calling this shit
Wade County.
You know what I'm saying? So, I hope
they do the same thing that you did for
them, Jalen Brunson,
that they'll do for you. That's the only problem
I have with it. Outside, I don't have a problem
with you taking less money to try
and win and keep your team together.
This is up to Leon Rose,
Worldwide West, and the owners
to say, yeah, we got to make sure he's good
in the long run.
Especially
if some Eastern Conference
finals or championship
appearances come with it.
Yeah, and again, shout out to Wade.
We just be joking up here.
Everybody's fans of D. Wade.
Right, and then we're just about at time,
but I do want to further this discussion a little bit more
because I want to put the amount of money on the table
into perspective.
This is a stat that I was deeper diving into and I seen.
So for the 2024-2025 NBA season,
as far as guaranteed money,
Ben Simmons,
and we're not pocket watching,
this is just the stats,
Ben Simmons is supposed to get
$40.4 million
and then Jalen Brunson,
Dee Vincenzo,
and Deuce McBride combined
make $40.9 million,
which is just about the same
as what Ben Simmons
is going to make in one year.
So after hearing that stat, what do y'all think? Well, let me say this before we get into this.
Starting this month, it is what it is. Every time we reach 100,000 more subscribers,
we're going to give away 10,000. So that's what we're doing here. That is what it
is just to make sure y'all know we're giving back and we're giving back to the people that support
us. You like that idea, Killer? I love it, man. It's about how you're going to do it. You're
going to do a lottery. How are you going to work it out? Yeah. So whoever, we're just going to pick
one person out of our subscribers. So start now yeah when we hit every time we hit
another hundred thousand we're gonna give away ten thousand in cash no receipt we just gotta figure
out we just have to figure out exactly and we'll get into it i like that i love that idea yeah
exactly how we're gonna pick our one so people won't think we're picking the
niggas we know and all that.
And that'll be great.
Oh, that's Coach K.
Go get him.
Go get Coach K.
You're wild.
That was Coach Kane.
It was Coach Kane.
Yeah, the killer be nice.
Yeah.
Good. He. Good.
Walks faster.
That's how fans be with you.
Yeah, I just keep walking.
I take pictures of you.
I might be with you.
I just didn't take pictures.
Coach came on and walked past.
I was like, Coach!
All them Duke jerseys we bought.
Yeah, man.
Okay, so. Let me do an investigation on Coach K behind that shit.
You know, it's what it is, investigation, nigga.
All them banks you got in North Carolina, I know what's going on.
You think?
Now, fuck that.
Now I'm a sports coach.
Okay, nigga.
You think you got Zion
for free
before that I out
you got that you own
hey Google this
real quick
how many banks
do Coach K own
I'm a part of this
you all want more
from me Coach K
Coach K own mad banks
in North Carolina
and he been funneling
niggas money for years
you been funneling niggas money for years. You've been funneling
niggas money for years,
man. I don't give a
fuck. Yeah, give me a solo.
Coach K got mad
banks in North Carolina. Zion
to Grant Hill
to everybody on Christian
Lake. He's been putting it through his banks
so it looks legitimate. Everybody
left. I signed off for us.
And he been paying niggas
for years before the NIL.
Think I don't know. I know about
you, coach. If we gotta do the is what
it is investigation on you, I'll
send niggas down to Chapel Hill.
That's not, because I know Duke is in
another part, but I know what part you have.