IT IS WHAT IT IS - MAURICE CLARETT IS IN STUDIO & WHAT MAKES SOMEBODY A DOG?! | S3 EP27

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

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Hello, what's good? What's good, man? How you doing, man? Chilling, man. I like that jacket, man. Yeah, man. With the ski mask, I thought we was on that type of time. You got black air forces on there. I thought it was that type of time, nigga.

I had the ski mask on. I was walking down the thing and I saw a few football players. What happened? Good? Yeah, I'm good. All right. I had the ski mask on. So they put their head down.

All right, everyone. You know, we'll stop the show, nigga. We'll stop the show right now. Keep the ski mask every now and then, you know? That's a fact, nigga. We'll start the show like that. Keep the scheme as every now and then, you know? That's a fact, man. And then today we got our analyst Maurice Claret in

studio. Moe is in the building. What's up, man? Appreciate you, man. That's what's up, man.

You're in the building. Moe, you made it finally. Yeah, man. It's good. I'm sitting here today.

I'm pulling up. I'm like, I hate putting them headphones. There's no headphones. I'm like, we don't even need no

headphones today. My man Moe's in the building. I need that Ohio State black. That Ohio State black is tough, man. That's tough, man. Super Bowl edition. So it's Jacksonville against Ohio in the flesh. Hey, yo.

Yeah. That was crazy. You reaching. You reaching. That was wild reaching. Let the public. Let's do a vote now. Yeah. Jacksonville versus Ohio in the flesh is pause? In the flesh.

Now you're reaching. In the flesh what? I didn't say anything about the male. I don't understand. Flesh. Now he's reaching. Now he's reaching. Nah, bro.

No, because I don't got that one yourself this time. Yeah, that one, you was reaching, bro. Right. Okay, and then before we start, I peeped the shirt, Maurice. Oh, okay.

I can't prepare. Man, that's tough, bro. Greatest show on earth. Yeah, man. Listen, we got, after this, we got, because I know you got everything lined up with the website and everything else.

We just got to give you the information. We going to get it together. So hopefully next week or the next two weeks, we got everything lined up. Cool. That's good with the pictures, Tito. You killing,

you killing them, man. 900 pictures from the same seat. Thank you. You know, the same seat. Thank you. You know, you're doing a great job. Okay, so let's get into the questions. There's a viral clip of a fan calling Russell Westbrook a boy at a basketball game. So the first question is, would you be offended if someone called you boy like that?

And then what do you guys think is acceptable and unacceptable behavior in sporting arenas, but also at music events, concerts, festivals, like now that we're reaching this season where a lot of people are in person, what's acceptable and what is not? Maurice first. I don't know. The first answer is that I would be offended if anybody called me boy. Obviously, you know, you go to these sporting events and, you know, people get drunk and they get beside themselves and what they call it a Freudian slip and how you may feel towards somebody. You may, you know, exercise your tongue to say, hey boy, uh, go out there and play. So I will be, um, offended by that. Um, I think it's, um, I think Russell handled it well, you know what I'm saying? Going over to address the guy. You know, I think they always talked about these guys need to do a better job of having security closer to the bench that helps to regulate the crowd. And so I think Boy is cross-line

because it feels a bit racist. I think there's an acceptable form of criticism that fans should be able to have. But once you get into racist undertones or racist remarks, I think like that crosses the line. I don't know what y'all feel about from an entertainment standpoint. Yeah, calling somebody boy is wild.

It's just, I mean, you might as well call him a nigga. I mean, that's what he heard. That's what made him turn around when he heard boy. Definitely when you're playing sports or I don't think people do that with music. I think they know if they do that with

a rapper that's going left super fast you know yeah so when I was asking like is there something like at a concert that somebody does or they have done that you'd be like yo that just crosses the line right you got people drinking drugging high whatever they're doing enjoying themselves and when I was thinking about it, is it something that crossed the line that a person, like, can do? Like, yo, this is too much, right? If somebody's throwing something on the stage, is that, like, considered, like, a boy in that space?

Yeah, if they throw something on that stage, it's all bets off. Got you. That's boy, that's nigga, that's... Whatever you want to call it, that's all of those things if somebody throws something on stage. Got you.

Yeah, I've just seen the video. Listen, white, there's levels to it. And totally in agreeance with you. Like, B.O.I. from black to black. Black on black, like same age group. What, boy? Like, niggas be saying boy like that. Like what up boy?

I just seen a video that nigga's red. He not white. When a red nigga call you boy, that is super duper problems, bro. Red niggas calling black niggas boy? Yo, yo boy, my boy,

I'm telling you right now to not say, call me boy, my boy. Cause you are red that nigga neck is red that means it's some extra racism he's an A boy

yeah it's some extra racism there's some extra racism behind it when you're red and when you got gray hair a little bit too cause you come from

that era it's either like if you got gray hair you living in that time yeah you in that time or you super young you learned that from a nigga from that time. Yeah.

So I'm totally in agreeance. I think it's too far. I think Russell Westbrook did the right thing. Because at the end of the day, like, I'm just trying to think, put it in perspective. And it depends on where you at. It's almost, it depends on which state you in, which city you in, whatever. If somebody call you nigga and you pop on them,

you probably might get away with it because it triggers you. So let's say we're in New York City and you go to, somebody says you nigga, and the nigga punches them in the face, they go to court. You get a black judge. Might get let go.

You know what I'm saying? You get a white judge. White judge might let you go to a, you get a black judge, you might get let go. You know what I'm saying? You get a white judge. White judge might let you go to a New York City. You know, it depends on if you're in the country or you're a Commonwealth state. Yeah, if you're in Kentucky, it's gonna be a hate crime. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? If you're in a Commonwealth state, it might be something totally different.

It depends on where you're at geographically at the particular time. But yeah, I think it's crossing the line to answer your question. I think more than white people, red people saying it is really, really, really disrespectful because that shit comes from the gut pores. That shit, they mean that shit.

You know what I'm saying? Because it's Florida. Yeah. It's that. Yeah. Florida has its things. Yeah, absolutely. it is what it is yeah

okay and I can't even disagree because the way he said it it just didn't feel right it didn't sit right with anybody I think when seeing the video so I'm happy that Westbrook said something back because I would have felt

some type of way but did you see how cool he felt saying it even after he was addressing it yeah like you know what I'm saying like all that stuff to me when you look at it

like he was just like super comfortable like yeah boy yeah at the end of the day, he probably, what he said was I paid for the seats. He probably didn't think

he's going to get kicked out. Like these pay for, I get to do whatever the fuck I want to do or say whatever the fuck I want to say. And sometimes when you push buttons, that's what happens. You spent all that money and now you got to go.

Right. Okay. So we've normalized using the term dog in sports. So a lot of people say you can only win championships and Super Bowls if you have dogs on your team. So how do you define a dog? And then who would you consider a dog on the 49ers and the Chiefs? Hold on. I have sort of like two definitions and I'll kind of like try to

describe like the essence. And there's one version of like somebody who's like a hard nose, not afraid of competition. When in the heat of the moment, that person brings out what I call like a childhood fierceness to, you know, compete or stand out or something like that. Right. And then there's another level when you look at somebody like, and my point is like Patrick Mahomes, somebody who, when the pressure is on and you're in the heat of the moment that you have the ability to stay calm and sort of like there, there's a dog sort of like physicalness. Then there's a dog where I'm composed in the midst of like all of this craziness going on. And so those are like my two definitions, but there's a lot of people who cower and sort of like shrink inside of like moments where they don't get that term. And so I would say Patrick Mahomes

would be a dog to me for the Kansas City Chiefs and somebody like Trent Williams. You know, Trent Williams, I know it's been noted that he has cancer or had cancer and just to overcome the adversities that he's become and to hold down the left side of that line for the 49ers. Those are two people that I believe have sort of like dog-like mentalities and fit my definition. Yeah, when it comes to that comment comment i used to think like people were lying when they say this person's a dog or this guy's a dog because my definition was like yours you know i when i think of a dog i think of territorial no matter what kind of dog it is it's territorial

so that means in this space i control this space so that's what I kind of look for people that have that will to say, yeah, you're good out there. But in here, I'm the best person in here. So but what I think about is different kind of dogs. You know, you got the big dogs, then you got the little dogs, you know, and the little dogs always bark a lot, but they're not really going to do anything. You know, and the little dogs always bark a lot, but they're not really going to do anything. So I think when it comes to sports, you have that same thing. Like we talk about Pat Beverly or we talk about Ant-Man, you know, is there is a different type of dogs. And then there's people who used to be dogs. They neutered. They don't go as hard as they pause. They used to. They've been trained to do something different. So that's what I would say. But when it comes to,

the other question was on the 49ers, they got a lot of dogs on that team. I would agree. I was going to ask a question into that. Is there any difference? Like, is there a difference between the mamba mentality and the dog mentality?

I don't know why that came to my mind as you were talking, but I was like, you know, is the mamba mentality considered something that somebody that you would say is a dog? Mamba mentality is more like when I think of when people use the mamba mentality, it's supposed to be like that cobra, like that black snake that comes in and just do whatever is necessary to win takeover yeah for me i know like i used to deal when i was younger with a lot of females that's older they call me a dog all the time because i didn't do what they liked for me to do now you're a bitch- do. Now you're a bitch-ass nigga. You're just a bitch-ass nigga if you ain't want to do that.

You're a dog. Or you'd be like, yo, that's my dog. Or yo, that nigga right there, that's my dog. Dog could be used in mad different shit. As far as sports is concerned, I think both you guys had great points as far as dog. You could use a bunch of different people. Mace made a great one as far as Pat Beverly,

you know, he's that little dog that's just annoying and goes crazy. Walking at everybody. Yeah, he just, yeah,

he going crazy. And, as far as the thing you said with Kobe Bryant, like, and Mace made a great point because, you know,

mom was supposed to be like the black snake, but if you're comparing it to the dog, whatever the highest, toughest dog there is, that's what you can compare Kobe Bryant to. You know what I'm saying?

And as far as picking dogs on both teams, I would have to say if I'm picking one from each team, I'm definitely going to go with Patrick Mahomes because the last year, or maybe even last year you know he was cool his first four or five years or maybe he wasn't

but the cameras catching him spazzing going crazy on the sidelines caring giving a fuck when shit's not going his way yelling at referees

and I'm like oh that's what's going on we may not have caught that because they trying to keep him safe he got the complexion to stay safe yeah he got the complexion for the safe. Yeah, he got the complexion for the protection.

They're like, oh, nah, but that nigga's a dog. And on the 49ers, I'm going to say Bosa. I like Bosa a lot, man. Bosa goes hard, man. He takes no plays off.

So those are my two dogs for the Super Bowl if I had to pick. Is he racist? You know, I love him because he's from Ohio State. Okay. I didn't know nothing about him.

I didn't know about that. Is he racist? No, so he constantly, he, I don't, so I can't, so I can't defend him, but I know what you're talking about. It was, they seemed that he was following a bunch of conservative websites, right? And so anybody who you see white and they think they're conservative, you automatically think that they're racist. It was, they seemed that he was following a bunch of conservative websites, right? And so anybody who you see white and they think they're conservative, you automatically think that they're racist. That's what they basically put on him. And then they went through a series of Twitter feeds where he liked a bunch of Trump-esque sort of like comments or people who were doing like rallies and all this other stuff.

And so they tagged him with that, right? But, you know, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, his pops are, not his pops, his grandfather has a history of organized crime. So they say his grandpops used to run organized crime for Al Capone in Chicago and then they brought it all the way down to the father

moving down to Florida and they did this whole little series, excuse me, they did this whole little series on Twitter about him basically liking all these extreme conservative people. So they kind of put him in a bucket. You know what I'm saying? But he can sack people, so they leave it alone. Everything you said sounds like the modern day black nigga to me.

They like the mob. Niggas like Trump for giving them the PPP money. This sounds like I don't see nothing racist about what you just told me. This sounds like the modern day black nigga.

Nigga watch all of the mob movies. Yeah. Watch all of the mob crime shit. They can't wait for Trump to get back because they think

Trump going to give them some more money. That reparation. They're banking on it. Yeah. I ain't nothing racist. And they don't like niggas. Yeah. I ain't not racist. And they don't like niggas. Yeah.

I ain't shit racist. I don't know. I get where you was coming from with it, but, you know, I don't know. I ain't gonna do that to him.

I ain't shit racist. Yeah, I don't know he's racist. I just asked a question. No, that was a good question. I get what you said. I ain't gonna do that to him

because niggas want Trump to win the, and his father down with the crowd, with the mob. I ain't going to do that to him because niggas want Trump to win the, and his father's down with the crowd, with the mob. That ain't his fault. Yeah. Right.

Okay. I think most people will vote for Trump if he promised the reparations. Niggas voting for him without that right now. That nigga killing. It's wild.

I say like this, it's wildly acceptable. I don't know why, but I honestly, I do know why. Joe Biden, I don't know why, but I do know why. Joe Biden, I know this ain't a political platform, but Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did such a horrible job with what's going on right now that people remember life being better with Trump.

And so I see more black people openly saying like, yo, I care about my wellbeing, I care about my life and Trump helped me do it. And I think that if he runs, I thought DeSantis was going to win, but I think if Trump runs, he's going to win, but he's going to have more

black people vote for him. I'm not going to comment on any of the politics, but make sure y'all go vote. Okay. So we know the Super Bowl is this Sunday. Everyone around the world

is watching people perform on what we would call the biggest stage. Seizing the moment isn't only for athletes but also entertainers and other professions so in everyone's opinion what does it take to seize the moment you first mo oh this is your day mo mo get in the studio and don't want to work yo this what you doing Mo nah

no uh so when you talk about seizing the moment man um I don't this question the question is like a two part question

it's something else I was thinking about so I was thinking about Kyle Shanahan and I don't know why but I remember when he dropped, he's the offensive coordinator then, but he dropped the championship when he was with the Atlanta Falcons as the coordinator.

And then he dropped the championship with the 49ers back in, what is it, 2020 or 2021. And I said, if he loses this, will he be classified as Dan Reeves? Remember for Buffalo Bills? And it made me think. I was like, you know, like, one, will he get that tag as the guy who can't seize the moment? But then also, what does it take? You know what I'm saying?

If the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott doesn't show up and he doesn't seize the moment, you attack him as, like, the worst quarterback who can't get past that moment. And from a coaching standpoint i believe that having to win championship games and championship moments and season a moment i don't know i don't know why i'm juggling two three two or three different topics in my head but hopefully how about you go and let me reframe my thoughts so i don't sound jumbled as i answer the question okay when when it comes to when it comes to something like this, what it takes to seize the moment, I think you got to be mentally prepared no matter what you're doing.

It takes it takes definitely the people around you, your team and stuff like that to make sure that you're not distracted, Um, because a lot of people get moments and shy away from them. And I think it's the same thing that happened in sports that happens in, in music or anything else, just the moment be too big for them. Like they're, they're not, they're not prepared. Like I'll, I'll give a story. It was one guy. He used to always ask me, he say, yo, man, I want to, I want to, I want to go out there and perform with you. Right. Pause. guy he used to always ask me he said yo man i want to i want to i want to go out there and perform with you right pause like he want to go out there and perform i said yeah you're gonna i'm gonna let you be the hype man so we go out and i think we was like at a stadium or something and he came out and he was just going throw your hands in the air right but i thought

the nigga mike wasn't on but the nigga hyperventilated. Like, he lost his voice. He got that scared. And I was like, yo, Mike ain't on. But his mic was on. He was so scared the nigga lost his voice. And when we got off stage, I was like,

yo, you good? It's like his voice came back as soon as he got off stage. He was that nervous on the inside. So you think a lack of preparation is why people don't seize the moment? A lack of preparation. Lack of preparation. Yeah, I totally agree.

Listen, I wasn't there. But, nah, dead ass. But I remember Mase getting ready to go get a record deal with Jermaine Dupri or was supposed to be with Jermaine Dupri, but months of preparation to go to this party to make sure that when he gets there, he doesn't fumble the ball. That's crazy.

I remember that. Nigga was in the- In 123rd Street. Practicing on a speaker. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Practicing that same verse. And listen, and that's what I'm saying too, is that you got to practice three, four months

and then get there and freeze. Everybody's not ready for these lights. Everybody's not ready for the stage. Everybody's not ready for different moments. Even in sports, it's different levels. If it's basketball, just for example, it's the first round of playoffs. Then it gets bigger in the second round.

Then it gets bigger in the conference final. Now you're in the finals. The lights are different and the circumstances are different each level you go to. Same scenario for me, like when Mace had his deal and it was time for me to go get my deal, he just picked me up one day and I don't know what's going on, but that's why you got to stay ready so you don't have to get ready.

He picks me up and we drive in and we go to Biggie's house. So we're going to get the deal. Biggie threw on 15 beats. I rapped for 40 minutes straight. Yeah. Straight. Non-stop. This is my opportunity, bro.

Imagine I get to embarrass him. And not just myself embarrass him. That could have been it. You know what I'm saying? And different raps. You never said the same rap for 40 minutes. For 40 minutes. Imagine I embarrass myself, embarrass him.

And then they get like, I can't, I ain't ready for this. You get what I'm saying? You have to be ready for whatever moment goes on because like Mace just said, that kid who,

I don't know, I wasn't there but imagine that kid, it's almost like that cartoon where the frog is singing when nobody's looking and then you lift the curtain up and the nigga can't sing no more.

Imagine when the mic, when the show was over, nigga start trying to tell Mase, nah, I got some shit though. I'm like, nah, you just had a chance. People come up to me a lot and say, yo, Cam, I want to get on. Cam, I want to get on.

And if I got time, I'd be like, all right, spit some shit. This is the worst thing you ever could tell me. What you want to hear? The shit to get you out of a better situation than you in now, nigga. Say whatever you think going to get you out. So what kind of shit you want? All right, I'm out.

I'm leaving. Nigga, like, what you want to hear? I got some of everything. Whatever's going to get you out. Nigga, whatever's going to get you out the hood. That's what we need to hear. Exactly. So when it comes to sports and coaches, to me, I'm not going to sit here and say that they don't hold a lot of responsibility

because they do because they have to call right plays. They have to make adjustments throughout the game, so on and so forth. But sometimes you got a coach that's prepared and the players is not prepared. So you drop the right play to run the right route, the right schemes, and a nigga keep dropping the ball. And then you lose your third straight NFC conference or whatever it is. So it's looking like he can't get the job done,

but this nigga has seven drops. Yeah. So at the same time, a lot goes on coaching when it comes to drawing up, dialing up the right shit. But football is the ultimate team sport because it does. So you got coaching,

you got the players, you got the GMs. Now you got the GM, you and your coaches arguing with the G, the coaches argue with the GM. Yo, you drafted this nigga. He a regular season nigga.

He can't catch in the playoffs. Yeah. You pick this nigga, he a regular season nigga. He can't catch in the playoffs. Yeah. You picked this nigga. You know, this is the ultimate team sport because there's so many people that have to be on the same page. Yeah. Some niggas only play well at home, too. That's what I'm learning. It's like they get on the road and just forget everything.

at everything. But even to build off of that, I started thinking about when Pete Carroll had fucked up against, who was it playing when he threw the ball on the two-yard line? The Patriots, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Where the coach fumbled in the moment. Absolutely. And you don't seize the moment, right? I remember that. Yeah, and so- You got Marshawn Lynch

sitting right there. Yeah, but I learned more about it hearing Marshawn Lynch go talk about it. You know I learned more about it here in Marshawn Lynch. You're going to talk about it. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, Pete messed up in the moment and he called the wrong play. But then I'm thinking about Kyle Shanahan. And I'm thinking like, if he doesn't do this or if he doesn't seize this moment, like what does he become?

You know what I'm saying? What does his legacy become? What do you start to paint him as? Because we'll do it to a player, but when it comes to a coach, like it becomes all of these subjective variables that gets moved and it becomes more about the player. So I don't know. My mom was thinking like that. And the only reason I thought about that, because they talked about, when you talked about yesterday about Andy Reid and him going in back to back and Stephen A has said, what will make more for somebody's career? Would it be for Kyle Shanahan to lose this or for Andy Reid to go ahead and seize the moment and win back-to-back?

And he said it would be more detrimental for Kyle Shanahan to lose. He got like nine pro bowlers on that team. There's no way he's supposed to lose that game. But he's going to lose. Well, the thing about it is, sorry to cut you off, Myrtle. Well, the thing about it, sorry to cut you off, Marta. We got to, you know, because Andy Reid is having all this success with Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, we got to remember he's doing almost maybe the equivalent job

that Andy Reid did in Philadelphia. You know, Andy Reid was a sensational coach in Philadelphia, but he couldn't get over the hump. He went to the Super Bowl. You know, he went to a conference championship, but he couldn't get over the hump. He went to the Super Bowl. He went to a conference championship, but he never won. Yeah, he never won. And I'm just going off the top of my head

because I don't know exactly Cal Shanahan's record and what he's doing, but he's always getting right there and not getting over the hump. And Andy Reid did the same thing in Philly. He changed his, you know, he left Philly. It was a mutual decision because they didn't want to say

we're firing Andy Reid because he's lovable. But he goes to Kansas City and has all this success, but they didn't look at him as a bad coach either at the same time. That's a good point.

Well, speaking of Andy Reid, at the pace that they're going, do you guys think with the young Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid will go down as one of the greatest coaches in NFL history?

Oh, I believe so. No, I believe so. And it's strictly off of just the age of Patrick Mahomes. And if you look at how they've gotten to the Super Bowl or some of the contributing factors has been more centered around defense, right? And then I think like when you go on offseason, you're going to say, man, you know, we could take miles off of Patrick Mahomes and we can preserve him and make sure that we have a stellar defense and we don't have to win every game through our star quarterback. And I believe, like, when you define coaches, excuse me, when you define greatness and you define coaches,

a lot of stuff is how many championships somebody has. And I don't care if you're a player or not. When Patrick Mahomes look at, what age did Tom Brady finish playing? 45, 44? Mm-hmm. And you start to realize that the rules are slanted for that. It's hard for me to believe

that Patrick Mahomes ain't going to win three, four, five more Super Bowls. You know what I'm saying? It's hard for me to believe like when you read articles, like nobody walks away on top. You know what I'm saying? Like we've never seen somebody

have a bunch of success, business, life, music, I don't care what you have. And they just like, yeah, I'm just about to walk away on top. You know what I'm saying? Like, we've never seen somebody have a bunch of success, business, life, music, I don't care what you have, and they're just like, yeah, I'm just about to walk away on top. So I don't see him leaving Patrick Mahomes anytime soon, which then I believe would make Andy Reid, in my opinion, have the most championships and go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time. I don't know.

Like, it's too early to tell for me. Like, you got to realize, I don't know how long Bill was there at the Patriots when Tom won, but Tom won three in a row, three out of four, when he first got there. Patrick Mahomes got two. They've been to four, but they got two. And to stay it's not easy

you know what I'm saying as much as we look at Tom Brady and Bill Belichick's career together it's tremendous they went to nine or ten Super Bowls

out of 20 years and they won six seven they won seven which is amazing which which is crazy. You know what I'm saying? It looks good.

If they stay on track, of course, they're going to be the best duo ever. But staying on track is not easy. Super Bowl, that's why I give Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, so much credit. As much as we love Dan Marino, he's never won the Super Bowl. As much as we love Peyton Manning, he won one really and he won one because his defense

won a one. You know what I'm saying? Eli Manning, two Super Bowls by accident. Ben Roethlisberger, two Super Bowls by accident. You know what I'm saying? Look, a lot of people consider probably until about two, three years ago as Aaron Rodgers to be maybe the best quarterback ever.

Not because of his championships, because of his accuracy, his athletic ability, his so on and so forth. Tom Brady could never be like him. And even though Tom Brady has seven Super Bowls I'm just saying this is the shit the nigga say but he has one Super Bowl and hasn't been back to one

so it's easy to say if they continue yeah but are they going to continue in the NFL it's pretty tough I think when it all goes down pretty tough. What do you think? I think, I think when it all goes down, Titletown will be like one of the winningest places.

I got to tell the truth. I mean, I know killer said it early, but you know how you said when you saw LeBron, when you saw LeBron as a high school kid, you knew what he was going to be moving forward. I think this is a foregone conclusion unless somebody like really get hurt. If they if they don't experience no major injuries, this is going to be a definitely a dynasty to come.

And then before we go to break, who do you think is under more pressure? Brock Purdy or Patrick Mahomes this Sunday? I would have to say Brock Purdy. And the reason I would say it is because this is twofold. I think the attention that Cam Newton put around the game manager, game changer thing, that becomes like the national conversation. And the national conversation becomes, you have all of these pro bowlers, you have all of these tools around you, and you should win because you have the better team. And what they're requiring you to do to win isn't the same thing that they're requiring Patrick Mahomes to do to win. And so that's what I believe Brock Purdy. I think what I think the national conversation is that Brock Purdy has to do less because he has more help and he just has to manage. So I think if

people are requiring you to do less, I think that that becomes more pressure than Patrick Mahomes. And I think Patrick Mahomes has kind of been here before. And so I would say Brock Purdy. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree because you didn't have, like Cam always said, you had one job. With all of this talent around you, all you had to do was manage it. If he ends up losing, then it looks like, what else could I have put around you to help you win? And I think that comes to be a great issue.

And also, when you think of the 49ers, you just don't, how could I say it? They're the favorites. So if you're the favorites, that's also the pressure is on you. The pressure is not on us. We already won last year and we're back to get a second one. No, and everybody talks about, you know, just Kyle Shanahan, this being a system. And I think when people think that, hey, the things that you're supportive about a system

should uphold you, it kind of like makes it like, okay, you know, you can put an average Joe in here to go ahead and complete his job. So I think Brock Purdy is sitting there and I think like, this is a, this is a significant moment. And I don't know, I think this is kind of like his Eminem moment. You know what I'm saying? You got to lose yourself in the moment. And the person who's not supposed to be the victor has to seize the opportunity to, to, to throw it back in everybody's face and say, yo,

you know, I knew I could be here. I knew I wasn't, what is the last pick in the draft called could be here. I knew I wasn't. What is the last pick in the draft called again? Mr. Irrelevant. Yeah. You know, I'm Mr. Irrelevant. I'm the Baker Mayfield of like the Rudy bunch. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to have to disagree with both of you guys. I'm going to say the pressure is on Patrick Mahomes to win more than Brock Purdy. Because what happens is if Brock Purdy wins, and I'm not disagreeing with you guys' point. Y'all made great points. I'm disagreeing with society. They're going to say, well, he's the new kid on the block. He had the best QBR this whole season anyway. This is really his first season.

He got injured last year. He didn't even really play in the playoffs because he got hurt. His first full season playing as a starter, he makes it to the Super Bowl, best QBR, and then beats the person that y'all call the best quarterback of this new era. So if that happens, you're going to start hearing all this churping. Nah, Brock, pretty. All right, first season, made it to the Super Bowl, and he beat Pat Mahomes in the Super Bowl. It's up to Pat Mahomes to stop this shit now before niggas start talking about this shit all season.

Yeah, you're right. Start talking about, nah, I'm just saying, nigga did beat Pat. And I'm just saying, this is really his first full season because he did get hurt last year, and he did have the best QBR in the NFL this year. I'm just saying I would go with Brock Purdy over Pat Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, this is up to you because this way, everybody will hear, especially from the 49er fans and anybody else and the younger generation.

Because, you know, now if you're 16 years old, you're looking at Brock Purdy as the new young person. So put that shit to a stop if you don't want that shit to go on all season. So my answer is more pressure on Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, the young niggas will switch up for a good switch up pass. That's a fact. They'll be like, yo, he won his first championship just like Pat Mahomes did. He wasn't there for that season. Yeah, but the first full year starting and on,

like, that shit will go all offseason, my nigga. And the nigga did have the best QBR in the league this year. All good points. Okay, y'all, we're going to go to break, and when we return, we will discuss coaches. We'll discuss coaches. She called this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option

Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Celtics will play the Wizards. Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at 27 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower, Mace?

Jason Tatum's 27 points a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Jason Tatum's 27 points. Higher. Higher. It's the Wizards. Kyle Kuzma is at six first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower, Camp? Lower. Lower. Okay, and Jordan

Poole is at 19 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher. 19 what? 19 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have them higher or lower at Mace? Higher. 19 what? 19 and a half points, rebounds and assists. It done got the joint pool. You got to throw all that in for 19 points

from this nigga. All that in for 19 points. Sit down, eat your slice of pizza and be quiet. That's what niggas said you should have said,

murder. Niggas said you should, niggas said he iced spicy. That's what he should have told him, have said, Murdo. Niggas said you should have said the ice spice. He said that's what he should have told Ice Spice. I was right about this. I told you when you go to Chocolate City, right? I did call it. I said there's going to be too many baddies in Chocolate City.

Yo, fam, that is a lot of statistics just to have 19. I'm going to say over because that's crazy. I haven't been watching the Wizards, so I don't know. But you go from being, it was the Splash Brothers and the Pool Party to 19 steals, rebounds, assists, turnovers, haircuts, bitches, everything you can put into number 19, nigga. I'm going to pray as I am,

nigga. Okay. Download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Okay. So we always have something to say about players, not being able to close out important games.

Coaches are any different. So if Kyle Shanahan doesn't get it done this weekend, how do you think this will impact how people view him? Maurice first. Yeah, I got a touch on earlier pause and I don't know. I just, I just, I really believe that, I don't know. I think two ways about this because Cam said that he was like you know when Andy Reid was with Philadelphia that is correct you kind of went to a bunch of

conference championships you've went you almost got to you almost got to the Super Bowl with Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens and all the stuff

that took place then they get to the Super Bowl with the we messed his ankle up that was the Super Bowl yeah so so like that made me like rethink it

but he's also had a chance to redeem himself with Kansas City. And so, I don't know. I was thinking to myself, I'm like, will Kyle Shanahan get labeled as somebody that becomes a modern-day Dan Reeves? And for people who don't know who Dan Reeves was, back in the early 90s, the Buffalo Bills had played. This was when the Cowboys thought they had the glory years, right? They played. Who did they lose to in the Super Bowl? They lost like three out of four.

They lost four straight. Yeah, it was something like that, where they kept getting to the championship and they kept not being able to close. And storylines in sports rewrite themselves all the time, or somebody from the past gets compared to somebody that's present. And I thought, I was like, man, would that be Kyle Shanahan? Because the Superl that they lost in Atlanta, they were up by a bunch of points and people feel that there was a lack of offensive

execution that was tied to him that didn't take place in the second half that was supposed to take place in the first half. And then when he lost with San Fran, they thought that it was the same thing. And so I didn't know if they would look at him as like the modern day Dan Reeves. But when you talk about, you know, Andy Reid being able to redeem himself, just kind of make you rethink it. So I don't know. I'll just be brief about it.

I think that made a great point with them not putting up enough points when he was in Atlanta. Everybody fumbled in Atlanta. We ain't just going to do that to him. Defense, everybody fumbled when they lost that Super Bowl in Atlanta. That was just, and I'm going to blame y'all too, Atlanta. I don't know if you're from Atlanta today, Mesa, where you're from. I'm going to blame Atlanta too because them niggas started partying at halftime.

Niggas was doing, they niggas 2 Chainz, JD, all these niggas in the crowd going crazy. Niggas was going crazy at halftime, my nigga. And they all fumbled. So I'm not going to put that, I'm going to put that

on Atlanta as a city. That was just fucked up as a whole city. Everybody fumbled. The fans included. As far as the 49ers are concerned, look, you only get a certain amount of time before people get saying, what are we doing? Only person I ever see in my life

get 20 years without winning a championship and niggas be like, Mark Jackson, what are we doing? Like, what's going on? Is Jerry Sloan. I've never seen, even though it took Derron Williams and them niggas to be like, yo, I'm tired of coaching this down at third. Jerry Sloan never was questioned. Never like, are they going to fire him?

I don't know because his Utah's going on out there, whatever. He was never under the gun for his job. The nigga coached 20 years for the same team and never won a championship. And nobody ever said, well, you think it's time to get rid of Jerry Sloan? God bless his dad. And I'm like, yo, he got his job on lock. Everybody else, you got a time limit to do what you need to do. What I'll say that's in Kyle Shanahan's favor is this.

Whether it's with San Francisco or somebody else, he's 44 years old. And for a head coach, that's super young. Super young. So he has a lot of time, whether it's with the 49ers or somebody else, to get it right. I think that's what he probably is going to have to hang on to because come Sunday, it's going to be Titletown. So we look forward to seeing you, Kyle, in the future.

Sunday's just not your day, you know? It's like, I want y'all to lose just so OJ can say what he needs to say on Sunday. Okay. So after so many openings and changes with coaching jobs, Bill Belichick is unemployed. So are you surprised and what do you think his next step should be? Maurice first. I'm not surprised. And the reason that I'm not surprised is that I think if you're an owner, you naturally say to yourself, he's a personality that's coming in and he doesn't have a ton of years left on the car. You know what I'm saying?

He doesn't have, you know, a five or 10 year career left. And so why would I sit him here to, you know, why would I sit him here to occupy a space that a younger coach could basically do where they can develop and things of that nature? And I don't believe that. What I'm not surprised I guess I'll go from there I mean I'm I'm actually surprised he doesn't have a job I really believe that he would be a great fit for the city of Atlanta because they've been there so many times that they almost need somebody like Belichick, even in the last of his years, to be in that position and be in that facility, giving them championship culture. So say it like this, even knowing that he may have, let's say, five years at best,

you'll take him, let me get five years to help us turn this around at the latter part of your career where you can go get a Kyle Shanahan or somebody else who may be younger. Shanahan haven't won yet. I got you. You get what I'm saying? If you're trying to bring that culture, sometimes you got

to bring the culture to the building first. So once people start understanding this is what it takes to win, then they can duplicate that and you could bring somebody in that's coaching with them. And as you phase him out, now that culture is in Atlanta because so many times Atlanta have been heartbroken in the Super Bowl. So you need somebody that know what they're doing. Not just somebody who can get there, but somebody who knows what it takes to win. Let me play devil's advocate for a minute.

So what would you really like? So why do you think that he's not basically been invited onto a team? Like, what could be the reason that coaches are saying like, yo, you know, we don't want the personality, the persona of Bill Belichick in office? For Atlanta, pride. Pride. You know how some people, like Mark Jackson said it the other day, I'm sticking with that statement.

People want to win on their own terms, and they don't win that way. Sometimes you got to let somebody come in a team, take over it, and just do what they need to do so they can win. But right now, Atlanta doesn't have that. And they've had some good players over the years. How about it? Atlanta has a coach already, Mace. I don't know if you heard about it or not.

No, I know. I keep talking about Atlanta after they already hired somebody. It doesn't make sense to me. He said, why do you think he doesn't have a job? I said, they could have brought him there and brought that coach there. It's too late now. Why even bring it up? I don't get it.

I get what you're saying. I don't understand. They got a coach. They hired somebody already. Why are you still trying to bring him to Atlanta if they hired somebody already? It's a Vegas thing. I guess I was sitting down with the mayor. Now I can see what's going on today with you.

You had a feeling Atlanta. Same thing Jermaine Dupri did. Atlanta. Yo, where the Atlanta? Yo, where's the best man in Atlanta? The Hawks. Yo, everything. JD was up here.

No, because they interviewed Bill Belichick. But they hired somebody else. No, because they interviewed Bill Belichick. But they hired somebody else. Yes. No, I know. I'm saying that's why I brought that up. And they interviewed him after JD was here.

When he went to the interview, JD DM'd me and said, see? Told you. Atlanta. When I told him, I said, all right,

they got called down. He go to Atlanta. He go to Atlanta. Look, I'm not knocking this shit. Bill Belichick, one of my, right, you know,

for years, Popovich, my favorite basketball coach, and he's my favorite football coach. But, a lot of people see how he disregards his, I don't know what's the right word to use.

I don't want to say disregard. But when he's through with you, he kind of be like, he's through with you. Like, Wes Welker, he's through with you. Like, you know, I'm finished with Wes Welker. Oh, Randy Moss, you think you all that even though you caught a billion touchdowns this year? Well, we don't need you anymore, Randy Moss. Tom Brady,

I got Jimmy Garoppolo. We're at the point where Tom Brady has to go over Bill Belichick to Robert Kraft to be like, get this nigga out of here with this Garoppolo shit. He's very seems cold. I don't know if he's cold in real life or not, but it's like even when Tom Brady

was leaving the Patriots, it wasn't no yo tom thank you for the job you've done we appreciate everything you brought to the organization i know i drafted you but you went past expectations he's very cold and callous when it's time to stop fucking with you and he's dismissive even his speech when he left the Patriots, it was like, you know, thank you, Mr. Kraft. We appreciate it. It was cold.

It wasn't like heartfelt. It wasn't like, yo, the Patriots gave me the best years of my life. You know, I coached at the Browns. I coached in New York. But this was the success that I've been looking for. I want to thank you, Mr. It was not heartfelt whatsoever.

And he may not be a player's coach at 71, 72. So you're sitting there and you may ask your GM, you may ask your prime time players, what are you thinking? And they may be like, I don't know. I'm not sure about fucking with this nigga. It's the same thing like with Kobe Bryant. God bless the dad.

And towards the end of his career, I used to be like, damn, nobody gonna want to play with Kobe, bro. He can't recruit nobody, bro. After the second child said, nobody gonna want to play with this nigga. The nigga demands too much, which I'm not mad at.

I'm from the era. He's too cold hearted. He's mad if he gets to the gym before you. If practice is at six, why you not there at 3.30? You know, so I was saying that towards the end of his career. I said, it's going to be hard for Kobe to get niggas to want to come play

with him as free agents because he demands too much, which that's why he's the champion he is. And I'm not relating Bill Belichick to Kobe Bryant, but he may not be the coach for this generation. And then we just said that head coach is 44 years old.

Well, the 49ers. That's great. You know what I'm saying? He'll just ruin his whole future. Then you said he's not the coach for this generation. No, no, seriously, because I hope you— Is it true, but I'm saying this. No, listen, this is what I was saying was, to me,

my opinion was the best scenario for Bill Belichick, my personal opinion, is that if they got rid of McCarthy in Dallas and brought Bill Belichick in, you got a quarterback this season, you got a good defense, you got Lamb, who's a great receiver, y'all are right on the cusp of it,

get bumped in the first round. That would not have happened with Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick, get this same team there in the Super Bowl next year. What I was going to say, when you hear a bunch of people who've played for the Patriots, they always talk about the Patriots way.

Where people become, they say you'll win, but you may not like how the Patriots way and where people become, they say you'll win, but you may not like how the Patriots go about winning or the expectations or the demand of it. You know what I'm saying? And when you start talking about Kobe, that made me think about

people not being able to hold up to the demands of Kobe and people feel like Kobe's sunning them and like, yo, like we're not here for all that. We're all professionals. But I wonder,

I wonder if that goes into Jeeva's mind where you'll say, hey, he's a winner. He has that winning culture. But will he demean everybody else in the process? You know what I'm saying? And I think the word I was thinking of, like, he's stoic. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, real cold-hearted stoic.

And I don't know. It just makes me think, like, that is probably the reason. Like, yo, let the old dog move on. The same people who called up and said, don't let, what's his name? Hassan Tyrone Campbell. And they're like, yo, let's keep him out too and move on from you. So I don't know. That probably was the conversation.

Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, you got to think about it. Bill Belichick probably wants a lot to coach as well. He has a great resume. I need to do this. I need to do this. I need this. I need that.

I need that. And he's like, hold the fuck on, Bill. Calm the fuck down. You ain't won shit since Tom left. Tom done won shit and then broke out and got retired.

You still ain't won nothing. So I don't know what his demands are, but you can imagine the leeway he got with the Patriots, even being the GM for all these years. Okay. So when we debate the greatest players, there's a lot of factors that vary. So do you guys view coaches through the same lens or do you think championships solely define coaching legacies? I don't know. I think of it two different ways.

legacies? I don't know. I think of it two different ways. There's the vein of defining great coaches by people who talk about the personal impact that the coach had on their life. You know, when you talk about being a player's coach and just people either making you a better person or I hear how when we talk to Mark Jackson and you hear about all these one-liners that he has, and there's so much wisdom. And people look at coaches as like father figures, and they become great in that regard. But then from a Vane standpoint, I would say the championships is what ultimately separates everybody. I think when you're a player and you talk about your favorite or talk about who's the best, there's a bunch of, you know, subjective variables that can go around. But from a basketball, not from basketball, but from a coaching and football basketball standpoint,

I think when it's all said and done, like the ultimate thing is how many rings that you basically put up, you know, and I think it's that clean and cut. I think when you're a basketball player, you can talk about points, you can talk about errors, you can talk about so much. But I think from a coaching standpoint, it comes down to how many times did you get it done? How many times did you win it all? How many times did everything become yours?

Yeah, I agree with you. I think no matter, but the way I disagree is I don't care which sport you play. The coach that wins the most championships is gonna stand out it doesn't matter if it's basketball it don't matter if it's football or anything I think you learn the most from coaches you win with I don't think there's a lot of a lot of wisdom to take from losing like even though you don't you know what not to do you still don't know what to do you get what I'm saying so and a lot of people disagree with that but that's what I've learned

over the years playing on teams coaching teams just different things you learn the most from winning you don't learn the most from loser but you know what I was talking about in regards to where people feel like like coaches has some sort of impact on them that either helps them to live better, think better, socialize better, and they play more of a social father figure to them. And they'll deem that person great. You know what I'm saying? Like if we all went back to our childhoods

and say, okay, you know, this dude was great in his own regard. You know what I'm saying? And you'll classify that as like a great person, father figure, something in your life. But when we're talking about the professional ranks, I think like that's more where I align with you at that it does matter about the rings.

But I also believe you too. I don't think that there is a lot that you can learn from a loser. And people say that a lot, like you can learn something from anybody. But I think people who typically lose in life, I don't think that there's a whole lot to learn. Or you can look and learn at what not to do, but there's not a ton of advice that they can give you to make you become a winner.

Yeah, and that's what I'm speaking to, that even when you lose, you can learn what not to do, but you still don't know what to do. Yes. So that's what I was learning from. As far as coaching, it's going by the rings, the championships, as far as coaches are concerned. I think it's different for players. I think that of course you always talk about players having championships, but I

think it's a bunch of players that have no rings that's better than players with rings. You know what I'm saying? You could say Robert Ory got seven rings. Charles Barkley don't have any rings. I want Charles Barkley before Robert Ory every day of the week, even though he's big shot Bob.

I want Charles Barkley. I want Reggie Miller over Robert Ory. I want Karl Malone over Robert Ory. I want John Stockton over Robert Ory. Robert Ory has more rings than Michael Jordan. I want Michael Jordan over Robert Ory. But when it comes to coaching, I think that is definitely based by the championship. when it comes to coaching, I think that it's definitely

based by the championship. Okay. And then, did you have one more thing to say? Yeah, but I'm going to let it ride. Pause. He said a lot of crazy things, but go ahead.

No. Because you started it and you stopped. No, listen, I'm not going to spare you. Say what you got to say. Yay. I'm telling you now. Do what you got to say. Gang, I'm telling you now. Do what you got to do, bro.

I don't do it. It was too many. He said you wanted balls. He said you wanted. You want a hairball leverage? Yeah. He's ready today. You want a battle?

Let me know. What you want to do? I bought two bones for you. You got two too. Son, what you want to do? Let me know. Let me know what you want to do. Let me know.

Let me know what you want to do, bro. Let me know what you want to do, bro. You know what you want to do, bro. It's your birthday week. Next week. You're going to have security next week. I ain't saying no more. We'll save it for next week.

Yeah, same. Save it for next week? Okay. So before we wrap, the Sixers are trading Pat Bev to the Bucs and Pat broke the news of his own trade on his own platform. So one, what do you think about him breaking his own news? And then do you guys think he'll be a good fit for the Bucs?

Oh, one, I think is phenomenal. I think last week we talked about independent media being able and we talked about where you can get stuff from Twitter players directly. Don't think that this won't have an effect on other players who feel like they want to break their own news and beat other people to the punch. And so from a, from a business standpoint and from a controlling on destiny standpoint, and just being able to be a voice for yourself, I love it.

But I tell you this, I do think that the Bucks have a real chance to go win the championship now. And I know different people have different opinions. I was going to say that too. Go ahead, finish, for real. I definitely was going to say that. Nah, he's, for better or for worse,

everybody believes like the spirit of what he is. This nigga right here, boy, a special kind of individual, man. No. Yo, for real. No, nothing cut you off. I honestly was thinking that when she said the trade because when we were talking about Damian Lillian.

Hold on, nothing to cut you off. Didn't you pick them before the season started anyway? Yeah, but it's further guaranteed now because they was missing defense on the perimeter. Because I was saying Damon Lillard doesn't play a lot of defense. So bringing Pat Bevin brings that defense that they was missing from Drew Holiday leaving. But they also, we talked about that dog factor. Pat Bevin known as a dog. And I think that whatever they were trying to get him to do in LA,

I think the Bucks think that they have enough pieces. And even when I think about that, I think that as you hear about it now, maybe the dynamic between LeBron and other people wasn't the best, like the idea and the theory worked out, but I think the Bucs GMs probably believe that he works better with Giannis, and he can bring that dog mentality to

the Bucs to basically bring them a championship. I'm a believer, and it carries you. I watched an interview a few weeks ago with Damian Lillard, and I don't know who he was interviewing with, but he was like, there's a piece that's missing and he felt like him and Giannis had to do too much

and they hadn't found their chemistry and I believe that they probably sat back and said, hey man, get rid of the head coach, bring Pat Bev in

or some other force to take the pressure pause off of him and, what is it? I hate calling him the Greek freak. That sounds so weird. Giannis. Giannis.

Giannis. Giannis is lit right now. I don't like it. What you don't like about it? You don't like Pat getting a ring? They always bringing them into the right situation and it's never like the right situation.

When is it ever going to be the right situation to win a championship? Correct me if I'm wrong. Who'd he play for last year? The Sixers? Yeah. Who was coaching the Sixers last year? You don't got to do it. Doc.

Yeah. Who's coaching the Milwaukee Bucks right now? Doc. Yeah. Who's coaching the Milwaukee Bucks right now? Doc. Wasn't it the right situation last year when them two was together? Yo, I think you're going to come and fuck the locker room up. Patrick Beverly is a dog, like y'all said, and I agree, but he's one of them dogs that bites his own owner once in a while. Like, yo, my nigga.

Secondly, Damian Lillard don't fuck with you, bro. You tried to diss Damian Lillard. He sent you home. Y'all had all this Twitter, Instagram beef. You, look, my nigga, Doc bought you in. I can see, but I mean, the season's almost over. I don't think you're going to make it through the summer. You never make it through the

summer. Every year through the summer, he gets traded. and I'm not saying in a bad way because you're a valuable asset to some team but I remember last summer

in the offseason you're like yo bro we gonna kill niggas da da da da they can't fuck with me me, Towns Ant-Man

it's gonna be crazy watch when we come back think we gonna get bumped? Four days later trade it go to Lakers trade it Watch when we come back. Think we gonna get bumped? Four days later. Trade it. Go to Lakers. Trade it.

Go to Philly. Trade it. We played. We just leave. We just leave. Philly. He's playing with somebody before that too. You trade it.

You get traded. You're a nuisance, man. And I'm not mad at you. The dopest part about this whole shit is that you got to announce this on your own platform. Start looking to this shit you do off the court. You get it, that shit, my nigga? Shit is not equal in championships. All of this...

You ain't Bruce Bowen, nigga. You're not. not equal in championships. All of this... It's not... You ain't Bruce Bowen, nigga. You're kidding. Yo, my nigga. Yo, what's my nigga name? My nigga played for Boston and for Memphis. Defense nigga.

Nasty on defense. Smart. Not smart. He retired. Smart too. I'm so mad. I can't think of this nigga. First team on defense for man. Not smart. He retired. Smart too. I'm so mad. I can't think of this nigga. First seen more defense from Matt.

Tony Allen. Tony Allen, nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Tony Allen. Okay, snap. Okay, snap. Yeah.

You ain't Tony Allen. You ain't Tony Allen, nigga. You ain't Tony Allen. You ain't Bruce Bone like my nigga. You good. You good for this generation being annoying and being the defensive specialist that you are. Equal a championship?

I think that, me personally, I think that if Giannis don't like you, you out. You know, you better go in there. You know, I can see you coming in the locker room and talking about, you know what you need to do, right? I need to hold you accountable. First ball, part two. First day, I'm going to have to hold you accountable

for at least 17 rebounds each and every night. I need that from you. And niggas is like, yo, my nigga, yo, whose man is this, yo? Yo, Dame, I know we had these little problems this, that, and third. We here now and this is what we need to do

because he is the ultimate teammate. You know what I'm saying? But I remember him saying this when he was with the Lakers. No, I went there and I told A.D. that he needs to do this. A.D.,

I'm going to have to hold him responsible to do this, that, and the third. And how'd that work out? We'll see. Can't go in there with that. A better approach for him to do is to go in there and get cool with

Giannis' brother. Be nice to him. Become a part of the family. They like you there. Yo, be a Pat Amba to Tuco. That's what the best bet. You keep your job, nigga. You definitely keep your job.

Fat Ambatatuko. I can't even pronounce it. Can you not? Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. A Pat Antetokounmpo. Patrick Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. A pat Antetokounmpo. Patrick Antetokounmpo. Yeah.

I see why niggas don't like us. People turn heads. A pat Antetokounmpo is crazy. Look, I'm just saying, look, this screams Doc Rivers all over it. What I will say is this. Last time I checked, Doc was one and four. I ain't going to throw him under the bus because we was kind of sitting there saying this shit about the Clippers when James Harden first got there.

And they turned that shit around very fast, quicker than we expected. But Doc, you're coaching the All-Star game. back there. But, Doc, you're coaching an all-star game. You're getting $40 million

from you just on the sidelines announcing, bro. This is like, you got to, this needs to happen fast

because the way I see Giannis, this is what I think about Giannis, my personal opinion. I have no fact behind it is that Giannis

is realizing his value. You know, I remember four years ago, three, four personal opinion, I have no fact behind it, is that Giannis is realizing his value. You know, I remember four years ago, three, four years ago, he said, yo, man, you know, nobody's better than LeBron James.

LeBron James is the best, don't mic him up. Yeah, after that, Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant's the best. And this is what niggas were saying, he could potentially,

that he might be the best. And now he's feeling like, oh, nah, I am the best. Matter of fact, maybe that nigga out there in Denver, but outside of that, I'm the best. And now not only he's feeling that on the court, but he's using it off the court

as well. Yo, I need my family here. I need that coach out. I need this done, that done. At the same time, the GM has a job to do. I need that coach out. I need this done, that done. At the same time, the GM has a job to do. I don't think that Doc Rivers was a Giannis decision. And if it don't go that way, I don't know what Giannis is going to do. I think he just signed an extension,

so he's kind of locked in for a little minute. But, you know, that nigga threatening. I've been to L.A. I like it. I heard the weather's good in Miami. You start throwing all that around towards the GM and towards the franchise,

they'll start busting moves. But as far as Patrick Beverly's concerned, I wish you the best of luck because he does play hard. He is a good teammate. But sometimes you may rub people the wrong way. Pause. Not talking about me. I'm talking about teammates and camaraderie. Right. And before we wrap, that was one of the first things that he addressed.

He said, I got to get my relationship right with Dame. It's time to win a championship. I said that. He was talking spicy with Dame. Dame, Mr. Frito, he was on the sideline talking about something. Like a Mr. Frito those then the next week

Dane bust your ass right then he sent you home another time yeah so yeah I mean

to be totally honest that is the best thing he probably said let me go in here and fix this with Dane now publicly right

yeah cause you know Dane Dane from Oakland he from over there from the Bay over there he ain't with that sucker shit you know, Dame, Dame from Oakland, he from over there from the Bay over there, he ain't with that sucker shit,

you know. I think he got to fix it pause before he go in there. Yeah. Right. That's what he's trying to do. That's crazy. I said pause before I said it.

Fix it before he go in there. It's kind of wild, but, but, but yeah, I think, I agree with you, yo,

because Dame, listen, Dame, I don't know Dame that well, but the couple of times but yeah I think I agree with you yo cause Dame listen I don't know Dame that well but the couple times I've been around him he's almost like a poker face too at the same time pause he's one of them I'm never gonna fuck with you but you won't know it

you know what I'm saying well Maurice thank you for being here thank you for coming in person for us. We appreciate you. You're always welcome back anytime in Vegas. We're here waiting on you, bro. That's right.

Yes. And I got you on here, Stat. Love you. Yeah. They gave me a hard time pause about not putting Stat on before, so. Yeah, man. It's all love.

It's okay. All good. We appreciate you, bro. Thank you. Okay. That's all man, it's all love. It's okay. We appreciate you. Thank you. Okay. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always,

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