IT IS WHAT IT IS - MAURICE CLARETT ON WHAT HAPPENED TO OHIO ST VS MICHIGAN & CAM EXPLAIN THOSE LYRICS | IIWII EP#58

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Cam'ron, Ma$e & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one with Maurice Clarett!! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, review, and f...ollow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to $100100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. Of course, I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts,
Starting point is 00:00:50 Mace and Cam. What up, man? You look hot as fuck, bro. I gotta run to the airport after this. What I gotta do? Where is it that cold out in America, though, right now? You going to Alaska? No, Atlanta. It's cold in Atlanta? Where is it that cold out in America, though, right now? You going to Alaska? No, Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's cold in Atlanta? Yeah, it should be. So you dressed for Atlanta right now? My man. In a few minutes, I'll be in Atlanta. Okay, I hear that. Okay. Hold on, can I say something before we start?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Of course. Shout out to the bitches who got shit to do. You know what I'm saying? I'm tired of bitches coming around me who ain't got shit to do. Shout out to the females who got shit to do. Look, if you come see me and shit, I got shit to do. You can hang around the crib, all that shit. Stop calling me every three, four minutes.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Where you at? What are you doing? What's going on? Yo, my nigga, I got real shit to do during the week. I can't wake up and start drinking at 10 o'clock in the morning on a Tuesday, my nigga. Find something to do if you don't have nothing to do. Secondly, be happy that you around me when you around me.
Starting point is 00:01:50 You don't bring anything to the table. I just like you. You bring nothing. All right? Shout out to the bitches I started to do. And you know who I'm talking to. And y'all know who I'm talking to. I'm sorry. I had to be sad. I was a little perturbed today about some things that's been going on
Starting point is 00:02:05 last 48 hours shout out to the ladies with a real job I don't care if you got a real job or not just leave me I don't even care if you don't got nothing to do
Starting point is 00:02:14 stop calling me every two minutes asking me where I'm at you know what I'm saying cause listen at the end of the day if you gonna just chill I like the feeling
Starting point is 00:02:22 of just chill out my nigga because you know what I'm doing if you don't feeling of just chill out, my nigga, because you know what I'm doing. If you don't got a job or whatever, I'm not knocking you, you know. I help lower self-esteem out. I'm not going to be down on you because you got low self-esteem with no job.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm not going to be down on you. But stop harassing me because I got shit to do, man. And you know who I'm talking to. It's not just one or two people. It's like three, four people, my nigga. Y'all got to stop this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Now back to what Mase said. Shout out to the people with a real job. I'm not knocking that neither, but just, I don't care because if you got a real job, that don't mean
Starting point is 00:02:55 you're not going to harass me neither. Look, Monday through Friday, I got real shit to do from about, and we behind, we on the West Coast. My shit start like
Starting point is 00:03:04 seven in the morning. Seven to five p.m. Don't harass me, B. Please. I'm sorry to put you on blast like this, but next time if I get a text about this tomorrow or a call about tomorrow, I will say your name. Please. Stop.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Happy you could get that off of your chest. Yo, shit is crazy today. Yo, where you at? Where you doing? Where you going? Where you at? Where you going?
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yo, my nigga. I started looking at Greyhound. I ain't even putting niggas on flights no more. Fucking Greyhound schedule, man. You like that. Today, we are joined with our football analyst, Maurice Claret. How you doing today? I ain't doing too great.
Starting point is 00:03:48 What's going on, man? It was Monday. May said, Moe don't come on today. I said, you know Moe don't come on today. I had the whole Michigan set up for you. Look, everybody in the comments during the game, oh, man, they said you're going to have to go see the expert, right? And so they reminisced on the video that we had done.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But, man, it was hard, man. Pause, right? But the Buckeyes let us down, bro. They let us down. Show everybody your shirt, man. It's like you're a good sport, man. Show them your shirt, man. Hey!
Starting point is 00:04:36 You got the expert shirt on. You gotta get king on right now. Yo, you know what's now Yo you know what's crazy You know what's crazy is that You know your tweets kinda went Your tweets went Viral On Saturday cause before the game
Starting point is 00:04:57 You said coach we're with you And then as soon as the game was over You was like coach you gotta get the Fuck out of here So all the sports Publications was posting your tweets And as soon as the game was over, you was like, coach, you got to get the fuck out of here. So all the sports publications was posting your tweets. Some other was Sportsman Fox. I was like, yo, Bob has sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:05:20 They had you everywhere before the game and after because you was like, yo, you got to get the fuck out of here. So let's talk about that first stat as far as Ohio State and Michigan because it was a big deal we're not going to sweep it under the rug Georgia still won so Mason was correct this week and I know he wants to gloat about it he's been holding this in pause since because I said go ahead talk about it he said
Starting point is 00:05:40 no I want to wait for Mo so I know we got other things to get to, but let's just get this out the way because he's been waiting all week for you to come. Yeah, we want to hear your expertise on it because you already know what the expert knows. No, listen. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Did you pick Ohio State to win? No. Okay. I said Michigan. Okay, look. Well, hold on. Did you pick Ohio State to win? No. Okay. I said Michigan. Okay, cool. You said they should. I'm going to go back. And if I'm going to go back, I'm not going to say you didn't say that,
Starting point is 00:06:13 but I'm trying to think because we was on the Zoom. And you was like. I said Michigan. I said it would be crazy when Michigan win because they don't have their coach. No, that's what you said. That's exactly what you said. You said if Michigan had, they should win. You said Ohio should win.
Starting point is 00:06:30 They don't got the coach or nothing. I don't know. I'm going to give you that, though. I'm going to give it to you. I'm going to go back to the tape and find out. But either way, you're up. You're up. I have no argument.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You're up this week in college football. I have no argument. I was just wondering. But go ahead, Mo. I'm sorry. Yeah, Mo, we want to hear your take. Listen to me. I've been getting called all week by every platform, right,
Starting point is 00:06:53 because of those tweets that I sent out. But the dude let us down, the head coach, right? And this is my first time really speaking on it where you can speak about it like in a comprehensive manner. And I just go back right when when jim harbaugh told this dude a few years ago and he was like you know you was born on third base and you act like you hit a home run and i'm about to get serious right here he was basically calling him a pussy in the most professional way possible right and when dude
Starting point is 00:07:22 didn't bark back at him like that was like my first red flag of, like, who's leading these dudes. I'm talking about the young players, right? And so we still going with him. We still riding with him because he's our coach. And he's getting ready to go to the actual rival game. And before the game, like, you know, you done lost two. You done lost one up there on the road. You done lost one at home. and he has this starting quarterback, y'all wouldn't see this because y'all not here in Ohio, you got your starting quarterback talking about, man, this is just another game. And I asked myself,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'm like, man, if you about to go into the heat of the battle against your number one rival, you don't want your main guy, your quarterback, the dude who's supposed to lead the team, you don't want this dude acting like this is just another thing, right? And so these guys get to the game and, you know, right before the game, y'all know what I'm talking about with this, right? Well, you're right before a rival game.
Starting point is 00:08:14 These dudes may play around, do their TikTok videos and joke around when they play on like, you know, a lesser opponent. But when you walk into somebody's like you know a rival game and dudes dancing around and shaking their ass and acting like it's a playful thing it just shows like the mentality that guys have like they ain't really ready to go to war and you got these dudes in michigan and this is like all the stuff that i'm watching before the game and this isn't to make an excuse but this is like feeding my comments towards this guy. And I'm saying to myself, like, man, what is he really saying to these dudes before they get on this field? Because if you're the general, you're a leader of these guys, like you have to give these dudes some sort of your strength, right? And it's like this, right? Even with, I can explain
Starting point is 00:08:58 it like in a music version, when y'all come on these sporting platforms and y'all joke and laugh and talk about sports, like people like love it as entertainment. But whenever y'all come on these sporting platforms and y'all joke and laugh and talk about sports, people love it as entertainment. But whenever y'all do music, y'all got to do this shit serious. You can't put out whack music. That's like y'all rival game, y'all Super Bowl. And it's like the same thing with these dudes. And you're going to have a different attitude towards that.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And so when these guys get in the game and they get in these tougher moments, and you're just seeing these guys fold or if a turnover happens, they're not really running after the ball or if they get in their ass to beat like these dudes like they're cowering up and all that stuff is like a result from your leader and who leading you. And like verbally, I was just joking around, trolling
Starting point is 00:09:37 like, yo, we with you. But when I see these dudes folding up, I'm like, hold on, man. Like it was dudes who helped to build this program into what it is. You can go beat all these other teams. You can go beat the first three teams. There's a huge talent gap with Ohio State and all the other teams in the Big Ten, but when you play
Starting point is 00:09:55 Michigan and you go on those championship runs, you can get beat by your rival, but you can't get beat three times in a row. That's where I get a little bit more serious. I'm like, yo, bro, we with you. But when you fuck up, like, man, it's time to roll. And when you're paying somebody $9 million, like, you know what I'm saying? You can go get whoever you want.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So that's like my little two cents on it, right? So you with them, but you're not with them is basically what you're saying. You with them until it gets real. Okay, what do you say when you lose three times to your rival? Like three times in a row. You can't do that. You just can't lose. Okay, you don't get
Starting point is 00:10:38 no credit. Like in boxing, right? You don't get no credit for beating up tomato cans. You get your credit and your reputation from you going against elite competitors. Like that's all they care about. That's all they care about in Ohio State. And when you market yourself as we got the number one recruits and we put out all these draft picks and we have all the tools to put the best product on the field, you have to then show up or all that stuff is you
Starting point is 00:11:06 know what i'm saying like i'm joking but i'm also serious like i'm a competitor right i don't like like when i go around to speak at these sec schools these dudes think we in ohio and they like man y'all beat up on dudes in the big team but y'all can't come down here with these country boys and work you know what i'm saying and so this is like what i'm telling him like yo bro boys and work you know what i'm saying and so this is like what i'm telling him like yo bro like you responsible for what dudes have done before you uh and i'm talking about in a serious way and when you get your ass kicked three times and you're getting paid nine million dollars like yo bro like we can go find somebody else for nine million dollars and then when you get your ass kicked it's like it doesn't mean anything to you and y'all know what i'm talking about where
Starting point is 00:11:42 you can look at somebody it yeah i don't i don't i'm long-winded but y'all know what I'm talking about where you can look at somebody and I don't, I know I'm long-winded, but y'all get where I'm coming from. Yeah, listen, and his bonuses is going up to $10 million. There's an article
Starting point is 00:11:54 that I seen. I didn't really read it, but it says that his record is, you know, Ryan Day's record is 56 and seven, but he's really 0 and 9 when it matters.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So I understand where you're coming from. These games that really count don't count. It's like if you fucking—I like the boxing analogy as well because a lot of people say that Roy Jones is one of the best fighters of all time, but then they say, who did he fight? And like Floyd Mayweather, he fought everybody when it counted. When you sit there and say, what was really a good fight that Roy Jones had?
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know, you caught Bernard Hopkins when he was super early. I think it was like Bernard Hopkins' 5th or 6th fight. James Toney maybe when he was like his son's fight. But after that, did he really have a good competitor? So I get where you're coming from. But I'm with you with Roy. Niggas can't be getting $10 million a year and losing to Michigan
Starting point is 00:12:47 three years in a row. I don't know if he should get fired or not. You're the person who says that. But Mace, the ball's in your court, man. I think you guys
Starting point is 00:12:57 have bled enough for us. Yo, Mo, I like all the excuses, but are you ready to say I'm really an expert, though? Yo Mo I like all the excuses But are you ready to say I'm really an expert though I mean with everything You know about football Cause Cam is still
Starting point is 00:13:14 Struggling with it Mace You know how many people Come in the comments And be like You gotta teach Mace football man You gotta help him out man I just don't talk how they talk
Starting point is 00:13:24 But I know I'm just telling you talk. But I know who wins. I'm just telling you what people say. They say, Cam. I'm just telling you what they say. Look at the guy at Ohio, right? He knows everything, but he doesn't win when they count. I'm getting the wins when they count. This is the game that really counts, Cam.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm telling you that Michigan is going to win when it counts. You're always going to be with winners. You switched your team to Denver. You told me that you switched your team to Kansas City. My team was Golden State before it was Denver. You're always going to be the winner if you go with the winner. I dig it.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I'm saying before the game started, I told you this is the team that's going to win, Cam. That's fine to win, Cam. That's fine. We keep records. We just have the records. We don't have to go through that anymore. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Okay, then we're good. We really don't have to go. Because I'm good. If you go to Underdog Fantasy, call Nick and see how much I made, niggas. That's all you get. My picks, who I pick, when you go with Cole Cam and Underdog Fantasy, I probably made niggas about $6, $7 million who I pick, when you go with Code Kim and Underdog Fantasy, I probably made niggas about six, seven million dollars this year as a total, not one person. This is what I really do.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I like that you're the expert, but I'm the perfectionist. Yeah, okay, I like that, yeah. Such a hollow nigga. The expert and perfectionist, yeah. This is crazy. I can't make this up. So Maurice, I actually want your opinion.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Like you said, he's lost three times against his rival and it doesn't seem like he's winning when it counts. So do you think that Ryan should be fired? Yeah. In a, in a more serious way, I would say yes.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And you just have to move on, you know, when things aren't working out, man, and I think Cam at name is stats, it's one in six against teams who are ranked five and under, and then it's zero and three versus the rival.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And when it really counts, he doesn't get it done, and instead of coddling him with the BS wins that he's made and inflating that, you know, I would move on. I would get somebody else and give somebody else a shot. What you think, Mace?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Think that man should lose his job? He's 56-7. 56-7? Yeah, but he's 0-9 in the important games. But he's 56-7. Wow. That's why-9 in the important games. But he's 56. He's 6-7. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's why I'm like dead ass. But my point is, does it really matter when you're playing Trump? In seven? Seven losses. So how is he 0-9? Because he got the game. game... Go ahead, Mo. Tell him. Yeah, no, the games amongst the right teams,
Starting point is 00:16:10 he's one and six, and then against the rival, he's zero and three. Hmm. I don't know. I mean, Mo, you know better than me, but I'm like, damn, 56 and seven ain't bad. But if you keep... It's like this.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You know what's a good comparison, speaking of boxing? What you think about, what you think about this, right? Deontay Wilder's like fucking 48 and 3 because he keep losing to the same nigga, so he can't, you know, you know, Ryan Day's
Starting point is 00:16:39 kind of like his, um, his Tyson Fury is Michigan. So do you take the credit away from Deontay Wilder because he may not afford anybody that good? That's a good way to put it. So that's why I was asking. Yeah, he keeps his job.
Starting point is 00:16:55 He keeps his job because I would want to see Deontay Wilder fight again, just stay away from Fury. We don't need to see that game no more. But the whole thing about it, Michigan and Ohio, it's not like you can stay away from Michigan. That's going to have to happen. You can't avoid them. Yeah, you can't avoid them. He keeps his job. He keeps his job.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I want Moe to get the fuck out of here when it counts, man. I'm not mad to wreck it. I'm going to be honest. I'm kind of caught in the middle pause with both of y'all. Because it's like, yo, because you know, I lived in Columbus, Ohio. So I understand how important this shit is. Like, yo, you are, and I'm not saying this is reality,
Starting point is 00:17:33 but it's almost like you could lose every game. Yeah. Except for Michigan, bro. You know what I'm saying? When you lose to Michigan, niggas don't want to hear it. That's almost like their Super Bowl outside of going to the college playoffs. But that's very important, man. Yeah, but most said the players is twerking
Starting point is 00:17:50 and doing all of that. So how are they supposed to win if they twerking before the game? I'm going to be honest with you. It's mad niggas twerking pause. And we, and status cool with it. You know what I'm saying? You should have no problem with them niggas
Starting point is 00:18:02 twerking in the locker room, you said. I didn't say that. Oh, when niggas twerking in the locker room, you said. I didn't say that. Oh, when niggas wasn't talking about, skill, nigga, in the locker room, bending their knees, niggas putting their hands on their knees, and they was like, skill. He was like, nah, it's a new day, guys.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It's okay. It's not a problem. This is what they do now. You guys, you know, y'all don't get it. It's a a problem. This is what they do now. You guys, you know, y'all don't get it. It's a new risk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now niggas is losing niggas, so my niggas got to stop twerking and all that in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:18:36 suck assing. When me and Murda said something about it. They said we was bugging out. They said we was bugging, but hey, to each his own. I will say it is just a tricky situation because in order to see change and finally get that win, they're going to have to make a change. And it's probably going to start with coaching. But moving along. So we've seen Miami dominate in the late 90s.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Hold on, Stan. You so smooth. We tried to control. Spin that. Are you cool with niggas stroking in the locker room? That's what I'm saying. I'm okay with dudes singing sexy red. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I didn't ask you that. He said twerking. Twerking's different. Okay, I asked you that. But I haven't seen that. Yeah, we was looking at the video when the nigga had his hands in the air going like this. I seen skis.
Starting point is 00:19:20 No, you going, they wasn't doing, they wasn't going like that. They wasn't doing like this. Nigga was saying like this. Doing like this. And you was like, it's okay, guys. But you're so professional. I like the way you spun that shit.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Well, it's probably going to have to change with coaching. You're moving along. Yo, Mo, let me ask you this, though, before we get off this subject. Do you think that any, how can you blame the coach for the interceptions that the quarterback throws? I really want to hear that. No, so it's not the interceptions that the quarterback throws, right? So this is going to bring us to a larger conversation. Ohio State was built on big plays,
Starting point is 00:20:07 big plays and all-day production out of Marvin Harrison Jr. and home run hits out of Trevion Henderson. He's the running back, right? And it's no difference than an artist, right? If an artist is trying to build his career or her career on one-hit wonders or like catchy records, you can't build no career or her career on one hit wonders or like catchy records you can't build no career out of that that stuff runs its course once you get into the environment of a real musician right or somebody who can really write records the same thing with football when you play
Starting point is 00:20:36 a real team uh and you've not developed right you've not developed a running game 15 to 20 runs a game or distributing the ball to a bunch of players throughout the season, distributing in the slot, distributing it with the wide receivers. And you've become happy with making all your production through one game like that's the core issue. Right. So I don't blame him for that. I blame him for not developing a running game throughout the season where you are putting pressure on the young quarterback to perform, right? So this is a first-year quarterback who's going up to Michigan, who's like you're putting pressure on him to win when he shouldn't be in that situation. And then you've not developed your running game
Starting point is 00:21:20 because the guy who you put in there, he doesn't run real well between the tackles, but he'll break a long run. And the only way I can explain it is the music, right? Somebody has some catchy records, you put them out and the shit is only going to last for so long before like people like, oh, this motherfucker just a one hit wonder, catchy motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? It's not a real musician, but that's the same thing with Ryan Day. And if you go back to my tweets, I've been bitching about this shit all year like you know they can say whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:21:48 they want to about me but knowing the actual game of football and strategy and how you build teams and how you lead man I get that shit inside and out and when shit hits the fan or when you like fuck all this other shit too you can't lose to the backup niggas either you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:22:04 like cut through all this other shit these niggas backup niggas either. You know what I'm saying? Like cut through all this other shit. These niggas lost to the backup fucking coach. You know what I'm saying? But this is stuff that people don't want to say. The backup coach. That's what we was talking about this last weekend. But if he get a touchdown in the fourth quarter, isn't he playing well?
Starting point is 00:22:20 I mean, I would think he's playing good if he get a touchdown in the fourth quarter. Who are you talking about? The coach? No, I'm talking about the Ohio State. When they got a touchdown. So he wasn't absent. No, I guess I missed what you were saying. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It gets frustrating. I want to joke, but then it gets frustrating. Like you get like, I want to joke but then it gets frustrating because you understand how this team was built. It wasn't built to beat them or going to the playoffs and beat other teams. So you hope and wish and praying. But then when the circumstances meet each other, you finally see that man, like you get exposed and I don't know it's bad. Like, I don't care about losing the rivalries
Starting point is 00:23:05 but getting your ass kicked and then being around town the whole fucking town feel like Cam been here he knows what I'm talking about if you win everybody loves you and if you lose like yeah it's the thing around here so why did you wear the
Starting point is 00:23:21 Ohio State all this season cause you been wearing that every week. You already knew the team wasn't right. That's what fans do. No, Mace was the only one who switches when things don't go right. He doesn't get that. He just goes to Denver when they win the championship. So he doesn't get it.
Starting point is 00:23:40 He doesn't comprehend why. Why would you wear the loser's hat? Anybody do that? It's so crazy. We're the same team every single week. When you say the team is built wrong, every complaint that he's making is something
Starting point is 00:23:56 that he's proceeding like he knew that from the beginning of the year that the team wasn't built appropriately. Why would you promote something you know is not right? There's Jets fans who never seen a win. There's Knicks fans. We ain't been allowed to see the Knicks win a championship.
Starting point is 00:24:11 That don't mean niggas ain't Knicks fans. That don't mean because the organization is fucked up that you just abandoned the whole shit like murder. Nigga, yo, this man lives in Columbus, Ohio. First of all, no matter if you win or lose, get out of the back of Michigan, shit around there. You might get a bottle thrown at you by accident, Ohio. First of all, no matter if you win or lose, get out of the rack of Michigan shit around there. You might get a bottle
Starting point is 00:24:26 thrown at you by accident. That's why I'm asking the question so I can understand. My bad. I didn't mean nothing to rub. No, the same way y'all represent Harlem, win, lose, or draw,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I represent Ohio. Yo, win, lose, or draw. That was a good one. We've seen Miami dominate in the late 90s, early 2000s. I'm not even going to say that I've seen that because that was before my time. We see a long streak of dominance
Starting point is 00:24:55 in every sport. In your opinion, why do some teams lose their dominance and their championship run? Good question. But I just believe that for Ohio in general, and I was down at Florida in Gainesville this summer, and I would say it's the same thing that I think in most of these locations. I think there's something that you lose when you quit recruiting kids
Starting point is 00:25:23 who come from the state school. And I don't want to act like I'm a homer, but I am a homer. But I believe that if you look at the history of all these teams who sort of lost players and they thought that they had to bring in, you know, coaches who really didn't understand culture and you stop recruiting kids who have a pride that plays for that state, I think that there's something lost. I also believe that as you win, the circumstances or the environment is better, be it for coaches, be it for players. And there's an urgency that's lost. That when you're the first
Starting point is 00:25:57 crop of dudes who come through and win championships, you're fighting for respect. But as you bring other kids inside of the program, they've never really felt the environment of having to build themselves into something. So they have like a different mentality and they just may take things for granted. And I just think it's the same, you know, like I said, when I was down in Florida, they said that they needed more kids from Florida to have a pride in playing for the Gators. And I thought the same thing with Ohio State. If you look on the roster right now, there's not a lot of kids who come from the state.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And it aesthetically looks better because you, you know, you have guys from everywhere else. But if you look at Michigan, Michigan has homegrown, old school, three and four star players who have a pride with playing for the University of Michigan. So that's my opinion. That's good. I mean, they understand
Starting point is 00:26:46 the importance of those rivalry games even more when that happens. Because they've been watching it their whole childhood. Yeah, you fight a little harder. Go ahead. No, go ahead, Mo. I'm sorry. No, I was just
Starting point is 00:27:02 saying you fight a little harder. It has meaning to you. Your family has pride in it. And I'm just saying, fight a little harder it has meaning to you your family has pride in it and I'm just saying you know I just believe that you know I don't know you just fight a little more it's a pride
Starting point is 00:27:11 and just I think sometimes championship teams lose that at the collegiate level yeah and to me just my opinion is they set it up for SEC Big 10
Starting point is 00:27:24 all these Big 12. We already know the teams. Who was it a few years? I'm not sure if it was, maybe it was TCU. They were like fucking 15-0. They didn't even get in the playoffs, and they made their own champions. They're like, we are our own champions.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Certain teams aren't going to even get the opportunity, no matter what their record is, because the setup of the teams that they want to see is going to bring the most money to the NCAA, is my personal opinion. And when you say teams losing dominance, it's still going to, when you say losing dominance, it's still teams that we know.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You know, it isn't randomly like, yo, Arizona State's going to be in the championship, or fucking Boise State's going to be in the championship. It's still going to be Clemson. It's still going to be Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, whoever. You know what I'm saying? So I think the things that are changing up is the portal and name and likeness. Because now you're going to go where you want to go to get some money.
Starting point is 00:28:25 If teams and five-star, not teams, players can figure out and talk to each other, yo, how much they got for you? A million? A word? They already got it up.
Starting point is 00:28:36 500,000. Let's go here. Like same way they did with Duke and this is before NIL, I think it was the year before it started, like R.J. Barrett, Zion, Ken Reddish, they all talked to each other like,
Starting point is 00:28:50 yo, let's go to Duke and fuck shit up. And if you can figure that out with the players making the money these days, I think they'll control where the power goes because people are going to see the best players no matter where they're at. And lastly, before we go to break, you know we got to talk about the frontrunners for the Heisman Maurice, who do you think will take the trophy? I think it's Michael Penix You know, the kid out of Washington
Starting point is 00:29:13 I said it last week But I think he's the frontrunner I think he'll have an opportunity This Saturday when he goes against Bo Nix I think that they beat them And he goes and wins the Heisman trophy. Now let me ask you this question again because I asked it last
Starting point is 00:29:30 week in a different way. If Bo Nix and Oregon, my mighty ducks, if they're able to beat them, do you think Bo Nix have a shot at the Heisman? Yeah, I think he really does if he performs well, but I just believe that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:47 just my opinion that I think that Michael Pennington, they have the momentum. It says a lot, like when you go beat a team in football, I don't know how, you know, basketball works, but when you beat a team in football, there's like a lot of indications of, you know, of what you study and what worked well. And I remember the game, they were trying to figure each other out. But I don't know, like footballers, who's playing hot at the right time.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But he would have a chance if he plays well. But I'm still, you might be an expert again, but I'm still sticking to my guns with going with the kid from Washington. I'm going with Pennix as well. Is your team the Ducks or Georgia, Mace? Who's your team? That's my West Coast team. I'm just asking who's your team.
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's not the NBA where it's the East Coast, West Coast. Oh, my goodness, Ken. Things I have to endure. Wow. That was a crazy line. Yo, Pulse, D. King Pulse. You got that on the stats? The things I have to endure is crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:55 By the way, Cardin said he's just screwed. Cardin said niggas got him. It's a wild shit. Cardin said, I don't know what y'all niggas did. But y'all niggas got me him it's a wild shit Cardin said I don't know what y'all niggas did but y'all niggas got got me it's a wild shit I said well I said Cardin what happened he said
Starting point is 00:31:13 all these bitches talking about I want my salad towards they DMing me talking about what dress and shit I'm pregnant some murder he shouldn't have did that yeah I meant to tell you that Cheryl you said yo So Murty You shouldn't have did that Yeah I meant to tell you that Cheryl You said
Starting point is 00:31:29 You gotta let him call up here And clear his name I meant to tell you that bro My bad Speaking of lyrics Let's do it Let's do it Let's do it Let's do it Let's do it
Starting point is 00:31:46 Let's do it I'm just showing you what niggas got done I got a This list over here is so crazy I don't even care What you got It's your day Oh my god Yo, it's your day, my bad. Yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yo. Oh, my goodness. Yo, a friend of mine. Were they from Ohio? Yo, Ohio niggas is wild, bro. Ohio is crazy. God, it's your day. Oh, my goodness. Oh oh my goodness oh my goodness
Starting point is 00:32:25 oh my goodness I stayed up it's crazy man yo you know before you say it before you say anything look at the smile on this nigga's face
Starting point is 00:32:40 nigga say yeah and just and just You can say yeah. And just. And just. Oh my goodness. You probably got it from BK, of course. No. All right, it's your day. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:57 They said, yo, yo, yo, yo. See, father, I lost my scruples. See father I lost my scruples I went straight But noodles When I raped that poodle He said he raped a poodle And then he said but he jerked off
Starting point is 00:33:19 Till he bust blood And he got his balls Pierced and call it psychiatric. He's seen them all year. I think I know that. That's what I was, it was a confession, but I don't hear no,
Starting point is 00:33:38 I hear bestiality in their pores. I don't hear no pores in here. I was waiting for the pores. The rape in theodle is crazy. That's bestiality, which is not cool. I'm not confirming that. But I thought you had more. I wasn't even on the go today.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I was going to let it slide. No, I'm not. Okay, okay. Okay, go ahead. Today's your go. I'm going to put my phone down. Go ahead. It's your go today.
Starting point is 00:34:03 No, I'm going to hold this other one. Wow. That's crazy. I got to say these other notes in case they come back. The raping the poodle is crazy. What kind of poodle was it? I don't know. I was hanging with you, boss.
Starting point is 00:34:17 It's the first album. We was together, nigga. Who's being here? I'm telling you, nigga, send me the first album. I'm gonna let you win today. Today's your day. I'm gonna save mine for Monday. I'm gonna save mine for Monday, man. You got it today.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. This afternoon the Grizzlies will play the Mavs. Underdog fantasy has Jaron Jackson Jr. at seven rebounds. Mace, do you have him higher or lower? Seven rebounds. He should make more rebounds than that.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Higher. Higher. Okay. Luca is at eight assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Cam? Higher. Eight assists.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Lower. Okay. And Kyrie is at 27 and a half points Do you have him higher Or lower Mace Lower Higher
Starting point is 00:35:10 I think he gonna Abuse Marcus Smart Okay Make sure to download The Underdog Fantasy app And you can make your picks too We are joined back With our football analyst
Starting point is 00:35:19 Maurice Claret Hold on real quick Before I forget also Who else I fucking reached out that I meant to tell you? Anthony Edwards says he's going to send us his sneakers. He said we're going to get those first.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He's seen us. He said he seen what we was talking about and he's weighing his options out on how to market it. But he wants us to have the sneakers first. So shout out to Anthony Edwards. I meant to talk about that at the beginning of the show, but we appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And we'll be waiting for the sneakers and we got mad ideas for you as well, my nigga. We gonna sell them shoes. We gonna sell them shoes. If you want to hire us, we're not expensive. We'll get you out there in the marketplace and pop it, nigga. Word, but big shout out to Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, shout out to him, man. Okay, so there was a lot of rivalry games that were very competitive. There was FSU versus Florida, Georgia versus Georgia Tech. The list goes on. So this week and today, we know we're heading into the conference championships.
Starting point is 00:36:17 There are a couple very significant games. So Maurice, let's start with Washington versus Oregon. What do you foresee happening? How are you feeling about this game today? Yeah, I'm going with the momentum and I'm going with the older quarterback, Michael Penix again. And I just think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:36 sometimes you just think it's people's year. And I think I basically liked him a little bit more after I seen his story after they had beat Colorado. I think that's what they beat. No, they beat Oregon the first time. I seen his family come on the field and knew that he had transferred from India. And I just think it's his time. He's a little older.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And I think that he'll seal the deal with the national, not the national championship, the Heisman Trophy. But I also think that he'll beat Oregon this week. You know better than me. I mean, I've seen both of these teams play. I didn't see when they played each other. But Mace is saying if Bo Nix
Starting point is 00:37:17 doesn't get the Heisman, it's reverse racism. Do you feel that it's reverse racism if he you feel you still feel that it's reverse racism if he doesn't get it? I think so. If he beats him
Starting point is 00:37:30 in this game and he doesn't get it, it could be reverse racism. But what if he does beat him? Would you go with Pennington? Do you think this game... I think Pennington's good.
Starting point is 00:37:39 If he win it, you know, it'd still be a Florida thing because he's from Tampa. All right, fireman, so you're familiar. I'm just asking your opinion.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Do you think, I'm asking a serious question. Do you think this game, whoever wins this game wins to Hosmer? Absolutely. All right, that's where I was at. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:55 On Saturday, Georgia will play Alabama. Maurice, who do you see winning that game? I'm going with Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm going with Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm going with Georgia, man. Yeah. Shout out my man,
Starting point is 00:38:16 Champ Bailey. I talked to Champ this morning. But I'm going with Georgia, but I don't see, after I seen last week with, who did they play?
Starting point is 00:38:25 They played the Iron Bowl. After I seen those guys struggle with Auburn, and they basically won at the last second, it's hard just to come back the next week in a row and try to have that same performance at a conference championship. So I don't foresee them beating Georgia. I just need Javon to get an interception. He get an interception, we're going to win.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's going to be crazy. Let me ask you this. Who? Sorry, Mike. Javon. I'm coming with my stats from now on. Yeah. I don't even know who Javon is, man.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Javon who? Javon Bullock. Mesa's smooth. You niggas try to laugh and look down and go. Let me ask you this about this game, though, real quick, though. Whoever, is this part of Nick Saban's plan to get in the playoffs he has to win this game as well for all his
Starting point is 00:39:29 plan yeah so if you no they got some like if you go like just to college football if you google it there they have a bunch of teams of who all has to lose and who all has to win
Starting point is 00:39:45 in order for like Alabama to get in. Even there's a crazy shot that Ohio State can get in, but they have like all these different scenarios based on who's played. But if you have a few upsets and if they happen to upset Georgia, and I wish I had the information right here, but you know, there is a chance, I, you know, there is a chance, and I'm telling you, there is a chance that they can get in. I don't know. It'd be hard to foresee it happening, but I don't think that they'll beat them
Starting point is 00:40:12 and that it will be a thing, but this is one of those games. I don't want to go with Mace every time, especially in college, but I'm going with Mace because I don't like Nick Saban playing in the seed to get the fuck in the championship. Like, yo, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:27 if we upset these people and then we beat Georgia and then we do this, we should be in the playoffs. He playing and seizing people's brain to make sure they get in the playoffs. I'm going with Georgia, which I really don't have a problem with Georgia, but Mace is from everywhere. He's from Jacksonville. He's from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:40:44 He's from Oregon and Denver at the moment. And Milwaukee. Don't forget that. Okay. And lastly, on the topic of college football, also on Saturday, Michigan will play Iowa. Maurice, who do you see winning that game? Yeah, and this is just a conference championship thing at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I see Michigan winning, and I'm rooting for Michigan all the way through because I want to see the Big Ten win, go to the championship and be in the championship. So those are my two statements around that. Sportsmanship. Better than me. Sportsmanship. Hey, Maze, though though it's a burning question
Starting point is 00:41:28 from the internet man everybody's saying we're killing everybody's saying we're killing you say that what he said he's going with Michigan
Starting point is 00:41:35 no I mean I was going to comment after y'all finished commenting it's a couple things we talked about that before not Michigan we talked about I don't think it was him,
Starting point is 00:41:45 it was one of them situations where, do you want the team that beat you to win, pause, or do you want the team that beat you to lose, too? So you'd be like, yeah, them niggas lost. It depends on who it is. Some people would be like, I don't want them niggas winning because we lost. But then if the team who beats you wins the championship,
Starting point is 00:42:05 at least you can be like, yo, we lost to the champs. So it depends. It depends. No, I want Michigan to win just because they beat us. That was false. That was obvious. But then the second part is I go for the conference. You know, I told you during the offseason,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I get called to all these universities, man, to go speak. And, man, I will tell you, when you go back there and you start talking to coaches, like they just say slick shit. Like, you know, Big Ten can't play football. The SEC is better. And so, like, I selfishly want Michigan to win just so when I'm out on the road this offseason that, you know, I can talk shit. But doesn't the money come back to the conference when a team wins on that level? I don't know what type of financial benefits
Starting point is 00:42:51 the conference will get, but I know teams, they all have incentives personally. But I don't know what the conference will get. But I was saying, I had another question for you. The internet want to know, since they've seen what Killer did the other day, they kind of want to see
Starting point is 00:43:07 you perform, you know what I mean? But I would be remiss if I didn't say that. I had to ask you, nigga, man. I told you before we started the show. Ask me every day. What the expert going to do?
Starting point is 00:43:21 The expert going to show up next week. Purple Friday. Yellow Monday. Cyber Saturday. Hey, but people be messaging me like I got the inside track. They be like, is they really dropping music? And I'll be like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I said, they said on Black Friday, so I guess message that. Maybe she may know. Ain't getting no answer from me. It's one man. It's one man that has this answer. It's not me. It's one man in the whole world that has this answer. Boy, it's not me. It's one man in the whole world that has his answer. Boy, it's not me.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Music done. I don't know. I think I got mad songs. And the nigga made still nice, man. I don't know what's going on, to be honest. I like the hat and everything. Look like old murder right now.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I don't know if he getting ready. I see the fitted back and all that. Shit low. Eyes low. I draw eyes low right now. Maybe he warm up. I'm hoping he warming up, baby.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Got his jacket on. Hat low. Maybe this is the sign. This is the sign. Well, I guess y'all will have to wait and see. Moving along to NBA games. On Wednesday, the Pelicans beat the Sixers 124-114.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Zion had 33 points, 8 rebounds, and 6 assists. Is Zion back? How much you said he had again? 33 points. 7. Yeah. And seven? No, eight.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Eight rebounds and six assists. That's pretty tough. Of course. Especially against the Sixers. I got to see it at least one more. I mean, yeah, he's back. I'm looking at his stat. He's back.
Starting point is 00:45:23 24 points. Close to 25. Six rebounds, five assists, and he's shooting them almost like 57% from the field. He's doing good. And 50% from three. Yeah, I'm agreeing. They got to go through all-star. If he's doing this after all-star, then I'll say he's back. I'm going to say 56.6% from the field is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's crazy. That's crazy. I don't think Zion was never not good. It's just his availability. When he's on the court, since he's been the NBA, since he's been in Duke, since we seen him in high school, he's very productive when he's on the court.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So I don't know. When people say, is he back? It isn't about for me, is he back? It's more about, is he available? So hopefully he's available because when he's available,
Starting point is 00:46:21 he's productive. And OKC crushed the Lakers 133 to 110. How do you feel about the Lakers losing to one of the youngest NBA rosters? Yeah, I just talked earlier. OKC. I'm pulling up my stats right now. I don't think they should have beat the OKC right now.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I think their team is too tall. You know, when you got a team that's younger, faster, and more aggressive, it's going to be hard to beat that kind of team. You know, especially when you think of, like, Check, he's playing really well. You got Shahad, 33. It was going to be hard for them to beat them, especially even Giddy showed up.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Make his name. Leave that alone. Look, I'm going gonna say something about this real quick yeah those niggas keep acting like we duck and smoke
Starting point is 00:47:32 when it come to the giddy dude with this allegation as far as molestation sexual assault dealing with a minor
Starting point is 00:47:41 we're not not gonna talk about it because people are like yo y'all didn't talk about it because people are like, yo, y'all didn't talk about, y'all talked about John Moran, y'all talked about this,
Starting point is 00:47:49 but you're not getting the giddy talking about the kid, Josh Giddy. The thing about it is this. It's allegations. And the way I stand, and I'm pretty sure I can speak for Mace as well, when you rape somebody or molest a child or anything of that nature,
Starting point is 00:48:07 once you're convicted or once we find out you're guilty, it's going to be worse than anybody we went on, worse than bad, bad of anybody else. So we haven't talked about this yet because we're trying to get all the facts and everything else that's going on with this case because those are strong allegations that you can't come back
Starting point is 00:48:28 from. So before we get to that, we want to make sure we have all our facts right. So all the fans are saying like, yo, y'all didn't say nothing about it. Let us do the homework. Let us get the information and then we'll address it once some more facts come out or once we get the knowledge on what's going on.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. Or send us the facts. If you got the facts, send them in. Because you know, with me, I'm telling the truth about everything. We ain't ducking no smoke.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Shameless plug on Check Out The Stat. I just talked about a few of the things that we do have confirmed. But like we all are saying up here, it is allegations. We can't only say
Starting point is 00:49:03 so much about it. But nobody's dodging from any sort of conversation. We're talking about what we do know. And when you have a, because to me, I don't even need all the facts. Who's the person? At least tell me who the person is. Like when we talked about other things, at least we knew who the person was.
Starting point is 00:49:23 When we talk about Mikey Williams, we know this scenario. We talked about Dwight. We know the other people involved in this. We do not know the people involved. Well, you know, because not to control murder at the same time, they are minor. So their name can't really be public. And that's why I really don't want to touch on this situation until we have all the facts. Because at the same time, this is not like
Starting point is 00:49:45 a regular rape case. Yeah. This is a minor. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying you're wrong. You're 100% right. But when you're a minor, names and all that,
Starting point is 00:49:54 that's why I said let us do what we got to do. Yeah, I thought it was a person that used to be a minor but now is an adult. So that's why I said what I said. Gotcha. So definitely, if it's a child, it's definitely's an adult. So that's why I said what I said. Gotcha. So definitely
Starting point is 00:50:05 if it's a child, it's definitely off limits. Right. You know? Speaking of that stat, when does your show come out? What day is it on? Yeah, so my show comes out today at 3 p.m. after this episode. Make sure y'all stick around to watch mine, talk a little bit about the case, what's going on to inform y'all, and
Starting point is 00:50:21 I have a special guest. So make sure y'all stay tuned and check out the stat. Okay. So moving along to another NBA game that happened, the Miami Heat beat the Pacers 142 to 132. How do you feel about the Pacers loss? How you feel stat?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Cause you sitting there smirking and shit cause they won. Well, I mean, I feel great, obviously. The Heat won. Jimmy Butler is back. He was the highest scoring on the Heat's team. And you know who was the second highest scorer? Bear.
Starting point is 00:50:55 No. Triple J. Yeah. So that's all I had to say, y'all. Y'all keep tagging me in his stats. And I just think it's funny. But like I said, it's still early. But that was a win that we needed.
Starting point is 00:51:08 It was the Pacers. The Pacers are doing well. And on the Pacers side, Halliburton did play amazing. He scored 44 points. He did what he had to do. Halliburton going crazy this year, bro. Yeah, he did exactly what he needed to do. So shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But he still won. Like we said, we're talking about winners, not the losers. And that's my team. So I'm hyped. That's that. Then why don't I bring up Halliburton, we're not going to talk about the losers. Because the last time, y'all was like,
Starting point is 00:51:32 we ain't talking about losers. We ain't going to give credit to people who are losing. I'm like, okay. Look, at the end of the day, Macy's missed the title tear on the Perfections. Sometimes y'all have to talk about the losers. That day, it was just, I forget who it was. It was just too much about losing, though. Like, yo. They was trying Sometimes you got to talk about the losers. That day was just, I forget who it was. It was just too much about losing though.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Like, yo. Yeah, they was trying to get us to talk about Dallas. Yeah, yeah. And the Pistons losing streak continues and they have reached 15 lost games. What is the problem? Because clearly this is an issue that needs to be solved. This is crazy when you think about the Pistons
Starting point is 00:52:04 because two of the players that's on this team were projected to be some super, like super duper talents. Sure. You know, so to have both of them on the same team, and then you got a past coach of the year to join that team with such a, with,
Starting point is 00:52:24 with those same young players. This is, this is like out of control. This is definitely out of control. And I think when it comes down to Detroit, Detroit, this is embarrassing for a franchise that used to be so star storied, they stay going declining that this long,
Starting point is 00:52:43 you know, they got to turn this around. Matter of fact, you know what, Murda? My homie from Detroit is here. Yo, tell Danny to come here. Let's see what she feel about Detroit. Because she gets all Detroit-y when you get Detroit. She gets mad Detroit-ish.
Starting point is 00:52:56 So let's hear what she got to say about it. Yo, Danny, come here. Come here. It's Detroit. We're talking about Detroit real quick. Come in. No, come in. Come in, Dan's Detroit We're talking about Detroit real quick Come in, we got No, come in, come in This way Hey, what's up
Starting point is 00:53:13 That chair and then That mic How you doing Man No, guys, sit down Bob, move the mic the other one yeah
Starting point is 00:53:26 anything anything Detroit related you always seem to have an attitude about it it's very coincidental we brought that up
Starting point is 00:53:34 yeah how do you feel about the Pistons do you watch the Pistons what I feel you on that I'm not mad at that So you don't know about
Starting point is 00:53:48 What's going on in Detroit With the Pistons They ain't shit That's what's going on For years I'm Prince You know Yes
Starting point is 00:54:02 Well I mean I was a kid I guess guess, but that's when we were good. I feel like that was the last time we were good. Okay, cool. Am I right? Yeah, Chauncey. No, Chauncey Phillips, like all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I'm just a Michigan all around.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Alright, cool. We was bringing them up and I know that when we talk about Michigan, I go crazy, I know. When us being friends, you go really wild when anybody tries to dismiss Michigan. So I thought you may have known what's going on with the Pistons. I don't,
Starting point is 00:54:29 but maybe you could teach me that we just suck right now. Is that what it is? Yeah, you're 2-17. 15 losses in a row. Why is it so bad, though? 15 losses in a row. The reason why it's so bad
Starting point is 00:54:40 is because it's cold as shit and crime is up out there, man. Like, Detroit's a pretty rough city. I feel like the crime got better. Did it? I feel like it did. Okay, you may know better than us, but I think that this plays a major part, Mace,
Starting point is 00:54:52 as far as not the Pistons in general. Just cities where it's not cool at. Because nobody wants to spend money where shit is not good. Like, that's what I feel, too. Okay. You don't? I'm just going off
Starting point is 00:55:05 the 2 and 17. 2 and 17. They're not going to get, they're going to get draft picks because they're not doing well, but it's not a sexy city to attract free agents. Like,
Starting point is 00:55:17 free agents may not want to go to Detroit. Hey, I'm from there. It's sexy. It's sexy. It's like, you don't even live there no more.
Starting point is 00:55:27 He's saying you're so, you move. I'll play it. I just heard the word sexy. Real sports shit real quick. But what we're saying is, like, who are you going to get to go there that's in free agency? Nobody. Like, you know, Giannis,
Starting point is 00:55:43 and sometimes even if the city isn't sexy, you may want to play with a certain player. Like, you know. There's nobody to go there and play with. Right, exactly. Like, I didn't want to say the wrong thing about Milwaukee because Milwaukee is a really good city. But to people who don't know it,
Starting point is 00:56:01 they may not know it's a good city, but they'd be like, oh, what's going on in Milwaukee? But if you felt like that, at least you say I'm going to play with Giannis. but to people who don't know it, they may not know it's a good city, but they'd be like, oh, what's going on Milwaukee. But if you felt like that, at least you say, I'm going to play with Giannis. Yeah. What do you think is going to happen as far as the franchise with Detroit moving forward?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Cause it doesn't look good as much as, cause you made a great point. They are two players, draft picks that's supposed to be superstars and it didn't pan out. Yeah. Um, I actually think the city of Detroit is a good city.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I actually do. I like... No, I'm talking about more the franchise. I'm talking about for the Pistons. Okay. I think they got to bring in...
Starting point is 00:56:38 They got to bring in a veteran that has won. They're going to have to blow the bag on somebody that won and get somebody there that people respect. Why can't James come?
Starting point is 00:56:50 James Harden? Yeah. Yeah, they got the strip clubs. James ain't going to know. Tell James to go on a pitch. He's going to go. So you're trying to say people of that caliber
Starting point is 00:57:01 would probably never go to a team like that because they're not winning, right? Because they don't got the budget to. I'm not saying that. Cam is saying that. Well, I'm saying that.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, I'm saying that. I'm saying that. I'm definitely saying that. Do they have the budget for a player like that? They got the budget. They should. They definitely got the budget. It's about two things.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Unless you use James Harden, for example. If two players go there at the same time, they will go there. Somebody will go there. Somebody will go there. Like a winning pair. Two people decide we're going to Detroit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What do you think? Who would it be?
Starting point is 00:57:35 They don't have a good enough culture, no offense, to Detroit. I don't think people actually willingly. Yeah, people don't willingly want to live there. And then to rebuild, one, you got to offer a lot of money. And you got to have some sort of promise that's going to show that, hey, like we have something to look forward to. They're not in that state to have that. So to willingly want to go to Detroit. Not going to have. Are they just going to die out and give up?
Starting point is 00:58:00 So then why was all these players there before in Detroit? Just think about it. It takes somebody with some street cred as a basketball player as well to be there. Remember A.I. went there too? Yeah, that's a fact. After the situation. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But listen, man, Detroit, it's gotten worse, but you got to realize Detroit is known for furs and gators and niggas making a lot of money in the streets and, you know, a lot of money in the streets and, you know, a lot of, you know, Eminem, great rappers and a lot of shit to me
Starting point is 00:58:32 and I'm not dissing Detroit because, you know, Detroit, they'll start all this no fly zone and crazy shit with you. But I'm just saying in general, it seems like that culture outside of basketball sports
Starting point is 00:58:41 have died down. Detroit was like a real sexy city to go to because niggas had a lot of money during a specific time and ever. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:58:49 that they don't have it now, but it just doesn't seem like it used to be. I agree with Mase. If two people go there, cool, but I don't know
Starting point is 00:58:58 who the two people who will want to go there are. And especially now that they got the Lions winning, you know, it would be perfect.
Starting point is 00:59:06 This would be the perfect time to bring that kind of energy back there. What about like a new duo, like a rookie? A new duo? A new duo, like two new people. That's what I said. No, I know you said two, but like what if they're two brand new people?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Like you were saying, like the draft picks. That would work too. Not just a veteran like just like a duo two new guys it's still hard to put them in that type of situation well look Danny we wanted just to
Starting point is 00:59:33 give you a chance to defend Detroit because I know you was probably out there streaming well I appreciate it and thank you for letting me take the floor
Starting point is 00:59:39 and go blue that's what's up alright good well thank you Danny and thank you Marys for being here we're gonna go to break and when we return we will talk about a potential Zach Levine trade welcome
Starting point is 00:59:52 back so it's being said that the Chicago Bulls would want Rue Hachimora and Austin Reeves in a potential deal for Zach Levine would this be a good trade it would be going faster than, I don't know what to say, but I would get them out of there for that.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Faster than me and you going to Lincoln for stuff on Mulberry. In 92. For Zach Levine? Zach Levine is really good. You know, a lot of people, because he got his name off the dunk contest, so a lot of people know him
Starting point is 01:00:29 from winning the dunk contest against Aaron Gordon, but he's really a decent player. What I would say is this. It was made on the Lakers' behalf. They made such a big deal about this Austin Reeves shit over the offseason. You know, we're going to get Austin Reeves shit over the offseason. You know, we're going to get Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 01:00:46 We're renewing the contract. LeBron wants him back. This, that, and the third. To get rid of him two and a half, three months into the season with this brand new contract, that just goes to show like
Starting point is 01:00:58 they don't believe in what they did in the offseason and they're trying to make a quick change. And it's the Lakers. Look, their story franchise, they're going to do what they got to do toseason and they're trying to make a quick change. And it's the Lakers. Look, their story franchise,
Starting point is 01:01:06 they're going to do what they got to do to win. But they was going Austin Reeves fucking crazy all fucking summer. And now they made to get rid of him. If recording,
Starting point is 01:01:14 according to reports. Yeah. And I think actually the backcourt would be better because now you could put, um, what's his name? Russell.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Russell at the one. He's a better one than two name, Russell? Russell at the one. He's a better one than two. And you put him at the one, then you put Zach Levine at the two. The team is actually better because they got longer wingspan paws on the wings, so they're able to control the playoffs a little bit better. LeBron is always better when he's playing with people with longer wingspan, make it easier for what he has to do. Gotcha. the playoffs a little bit better. LeBron is always better when he's playing with people with longer wingspan, make it easier for what he has to do.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Gotcha. I don't really know because the whole thing, I mean, I just said what I had to say, but the whole thing they've been talking about trading Zach Levine since the fucking season started. So these are reports. These are rumors. If it happens, it happens. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Do I think it's a good trade? I'm not sure. Mace may have a better opinion on that than me. I'm just more, he has a better opinion on that than me. I'm just more, he has a better take on it than me. I'm just more the fact that y'all motherfuckers is going Austin Reed crazy, bro. Crazy, my nigga. Austin
Starting point is 01:02:14 Reed's following me crazy, and now y'all niggas is ready to get rid of him. That's more where I'm at with that. So if it happens, I'll do more homework on it. But Mace knows if it's a better fit for the Lakers than I would. Yeah, I agree. This isn't the same type of situation, but it kind
Starting point is 01:02:30 of reminds me of like getting rid of Jordan Poole and then like getting rid of Austin Reese. I don't really know how I feel about that. I don't know if it would be the best choice. Zach Levine on the Lakers probably would be a good addition, but I just feel like it doesn't make sense right now. But let us know what you guys think in the comments. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as
Starting point is 01:02:48 always, it is what it is.

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