IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN CLAPS BACK AT TERRELL OWENS & THE JIMMY BUTLER DRAMA WITH MIAMI CONTINUES! | S6 EP13

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, MICHAEL IRVIN IS BACK!! We discuss if white people should have to work on Juneteenth, Andre Iguodala gets his jersey retired by the Warriors but Killa says the only play he remembers from him is being blocked by Bron in the finals. Ma$e says that the NBA all star weekend needs big names in the dunk contest or else it's a dub. Michael Irvin responds to Terrell Owens saying T.O was better than him & the ongoing saga of Jimmy Butler vs. The Miami Heat! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

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in bonus cash with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treja Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your host Mace and Cam. Killer was good. Murder was good, bro. How you today? Chilling, man, and yourself? Shit, everything good, man. I walked in bro, how you today? Chilling man and yourself. Shit everything good man.

I walked in I heard you and Mike talking about anxiety and shit. Yeah Mike said there's a rich thing going around called anxiety. I wouldn't call it a rich thing but I want to hear more about it. I'm not as up to speed on that. Mike what would you mean by anxiety? Because you said you got anxiety. What I was saying, listen, listen, I was saying, I don't know. So reason now I have anxieties about flying. I was telling you guys about that. That's why I do not fly private, right? I'm afraid.

And I said, I didn't used to have anxiety. When I was broke, pulled in the ghetto for a lot of days, I had no anxiety about nothing. Soon as you got a few dollars now, you have anxieties about leaving here because you finally got some money to stay, I guess. And yeah, so that's what that is. I've been working on it. They say if you cover your left eye and look up,

it cuts off your anxieties while you're on the airplane. Shit ain't worked for me yet, but I've been trying. I'm just telling you, I've been trying. You know, that's why I walked in on you guys' conversation because I don't think that black people got anxiety until the 2000s. I don't think you was allowed to have anxiety. Sorry, Stab, you making a face, you wasn't around.

I wish you would have told somebody in 86 when you was black you had anxiety. Nigga, get the fuck out of here. Before I stopped, it was one of those things you would be happy to get any male pause. So now you can't drink certain pause milks and stuff like that. Yeah, that's the gluten, like the gluten situation.

Exactly. That's what I meant. I wish somebody in 1991 would have said, I have anxiety, nigga, we'll smack the shit out of nigga. Nigga, what the fuck, you got anxiety. I wasn't allowed to have anxiety. I wasn't a black people word, at least not in my community growing up.

Now young kids like, I'm just like, I'm anxiety. You know what, Murdoch realized, because it's a lot of, we provided a better life for the next generation. We didn't have a great life till now. You got two parent homes, you're growing up in gated communities, you have a little money. I guess our anxiety was not getting out of the ghetto.

But you couldn't, you wasn't allowed to use that word. We might've had it, but that word was like, nah, you couldn't use the word anxiety. I was, yo, have you, imagine Coach Rich, imagine you told Coach Rich at code four. This nigga said he got anxiety. Yeah, he would have definitely, we would have been running live for that.

Yeah, or for that, nigga would have been running. You would really have anxiety after this. Like, I wish I would have told my mother or grandmother I had anxiety. Niggas with a lost thing, motherfucking mom. But hey, I'm happy that we're growing and using better words for whatever troubles we have because we may have had anxiety,

but like I said, murder, high anxiety, and Mike probably too, cause Mike, you just made a great point. I think our anxiety was like, yo, we gotta get the fuck out of this situation that we're in. Yeah, so anxiety did exist. Yeah, but we wasn't allowed that word.

We couldn't express it. There you go, that's what I was liin' at. We couldn't express it. We couldn't express the word anxiety. We just said, yo, we gotta get the fuck outta here. That was the anxiety, that was the word. So I just wanted to chime in on you guys' conversation, because I was, you know, like Murda said,

it's just a lot of things that are new, and every year some new shit like, yo, National Closing Card Door Day. Yo, it's National Kiss Day. Well, every day. National Sunday. Now, every fucking day is some new national shit that didn't exist a year before.

Yo, National Jacket Day. Niggas make up anything. Every fucking year is a new day. Only shit on rock and we're really tell the truth is, I'm gonna go with Juneteenth. I'm sorry, I can't. You celebrating Juneteenth? Yeah, why not?

But then you know what's crazy? Let me ask y'all this, I know we gotta stop, but let me ask you this, Mike and Murda, do you think white people should work on Juneteenth or should they take the day off too? That's a real good question. You go viral with that. You're going viral. Should white people have to work?

Give me a camera on this. Should white people have to work on Juneteenth? Yeah. I want to hear you and Mike's answer on this. I'm conflicted. I'm conflicted because actually I'm conflicted because actually there's some that would say they should work overtime. There was some that said in the comments that they should work overtime. What you think about that Mike?

What you think should white people work on Juneteenth? That is a dichotomy. That boy, I hate, that's the only thing he would ask a brother. I like to steer clear of that if I may. Cause I think I know what to say to that. Mike, Mike, was that good the way I said it? Right, right, right.

But any day, any day that you go call White People Must Work Day, it should be the day they finally let the brothers go. No, no, no. All y'all go to work. I'm not gonna let the brothers go. No, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? It's nothing. It's like, all y'all go to work. Give us one free day off. Buy ourselves.

What the fuck you get? You know, so. You know how interesting that day would be if you saw all non-blacks going to work and then all the black people just didn't have to work? That would be crazy. Yeah. What? Yeah, that'd be wild.

Wait, wait, wait. Brothers would get out of here with it. Those would be all sitting up all in there, all up in the wonder with the drawers all, talking, yo, go on to work white folks, go on to work, we chillin' today. You ain't got to, I would get out of here. It would be durags in Newports.

It'd be a violent lickin' and niggas going to work. That's a fact. Scott, what do you think about this? I'm not really mad at it. I feel like it makes sense, because we don't have reparation, and like, people, that's all I'm gonna say. Because the more I keep talking,

going in a circle, I don't think it's a bad idea. But hey. Yeah, but then. One last thing we gotta to add one last thing. We're going to have to add white folk. Ain't no pay for this day. Y'all know what this shit feel like. Mike, you want them to work?

Mike, you want nobody to get paid. Yeah, I want that. Mike. I like Mike over time with no pay is crazy. One day. Don't pay. One day. I'm with that. I'm with that. I overtime with no pay is crazy. One day? No pay. One day, I'm with that. No pay. I'm with that.

I'm with that. It's only one day. Yeah, cause people always try to act like they wanna know what it felt like for all the being slavery. Yeah, but not only that, the thing about it is this murder is that, niggas will be mad that day. They be like,

y'all got me working all damn day and night and even get paid overtime. Yeah, I like that. I like that, Mike. And I think we should do a poll pause on. It is what it is. Yeah, we'll do a poll on people thinking, should white people work on Juneteenth?

We'll put a poll together, pause, and figure out what America and outside America thinks. I'm curious to see what you will say. Okay. So let's actually start with the Warriors. So they announced they will retire Andre Iguodala's number nine jersey. They will do it on the same day as Clay Thompson's return night, allowing him to be in attendance.

This is the first Jersey retirement of that Warriors dynasty. Mike, what do you think about this? What are your thoughts? Well, honestly, I think this is an incredible honor for Andre Iguodala. Now, I know I've always said that I don't believe in retiring jerseys, and if you can, you had a great career, you put on the next man back

and carry it on. But Andre Iguodala had a great career, you put on the next man back and carry it on. But Andre, he thought he had a great career in Oakland and retired in his church and him getting this honor. I think that's incredible. You had an MVP and you really are going to be known for the man that deed up LeBron James. So yeah, that's a good honor. That's a great honor for him.

Yeah. When it come to Equidola, I think he had a really stellar career, what he did with the Sixers, what he was able to do down there, even at Oakland with the Golden State Warriors. I remember when they switched them paws from coming off the bench and then he still produced and ended up leading to that championship. And I could just say for that franchise, it seemed like they had great guard after great guard and they weren't able to get it done, whether it was on Monty Ellis, then it was Mitch Richmond, then it was Tim Hardaway, you know, just all of these great gods. And for him to go and actually be the one that breakthrough

with with a young Stephen Curry, with a young Klay Thompson. And he was really the show of that night, you know. So I'm really I'm really happy for him, because sometimes as time goes by, accolades get lost, you know, especially with everybody having a microphone and everybody having a platform and you got, you know, people that have a lot of amnesia when it comes to sports and things like that, it's good to see that they remembered him.

Whatever, I don't know, I ain't really jacking Andre. He cool. He aight. Biggest play I remember from Andre Nkwadala with the Golden State Warriors is when LeBron punched this shit and he let Cleveland Cavaliers win their first championship in 297 years. That's the biggest shit I remember from Andre Nkwadala. N***a ain't really deserved MVP. They gave him MVP because he played good defense on LeBron. I like Andre Anquadala, don't get me wrong.

See, this is what my man Deon Sanders be talking about. This is exactly what the fuck Deon be talking about, and I feel Deon. And this isn't the Hall of Fame. This is a retirement jersey. But Deon say, yo, they need separate rooms in the Hall of Fame. He said they just letting anybody in this shit now.

They don't say, they need two different tiers. They need an upstairs room in the Hall of Fame because they just letting anybody in. We just retiring jerseys and shit just because like, oh yeah, it's cool, don't get me wrong. If I wanna agree with this and I'm not mad they doing it, but he wasn't like a lifetime warrior. He's with the Sixers.

And I know he was part of the dynasty that helped them win, but every year with some new niggas in there, David West one year, Muncha Bell, there's all type of niggas that came through. Biggest play I remember, and don't get me wrong, Andre Youngadai hit some big shots. Biggest play is when you got your shit boarded, LeBron came down, boarded your shit,

should have dunked it, boarded you. And Cleveland won the championship. Am I happy about him getting retired? I'm not mad at it, but I'm not saluting it. Congrats, nigga. So you think he should be? And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you should take the retirement and go ahead and put it in the rafters because there is no, well, boy, is he the next Andre Eagle dollar. Oh, is he the next Andre Eagle dollar? Right.

And put it on someone else's back. You have a good career, but you didn't have that kind of career. And what's going to be crazy is some of the things he remembered about. He's remembered by Max remember Max on first tape He said Max Kellerman Max Kellerman With a gunshot to him with a gun to my head last shot

I'm going to give it to Andre Iguodala over Steph Curry You're going to be remembered because crazy people say crazy things like that. That makes it even more crazy when you start thinking about it. But yeah, yeah, so I'm happy for him. That's why I said for him, you take that retirement and you put it in the rafters. Sorry, Morgan.

Just I want to add on to Sonny's. And to be honest with you, and I love Max Kellerman, I'm glad you brought that point up, but that's why we haven't seen him in a while for wow shit like that, what he said. You know what I'm saying? You know? The nigga kept, every fucking year, Max Kellerman kept saying,

Tom Brady's gonna fall off a cliff. Tom Brady's not gonna be good next year. Tom Brady's gonna fall off. Then he kept retracking the statement, Tom Brady key winning. Tom Brady's not gonna be good next year. Tom Brady's gonna fall off. Then he kept re-tracking the statement. Tom Brady key winning. Tom Brady key winning. They like, I thought Tom Brady's gonna fall off. No, I didn't say he's gonna fall off a cliff.

I said he's inching close. This shit was ridiculous. Stephen A. Smith said, I can't take it. I gotta get this nigga outta here. And I like Max Coleman as a boxing analyst. And as a sports analyst, so I'm not mad at him. But yeah, crazy shit like you just said, Mike.

He wasn't even just saying stuff. Curry, I think, if I'm not mistaken, he might have said Michael Jordan. He said, man, with a gun on my head, I'm taking Andre Inquidalla last shot over everybody who ever played basketball. He was saying wow shit. Wow, he bugging.

Yeah, that's why, you know, I've been reaching out, looking for Max, actually, to tell the truth, because I want him to come up here and help us with boxing when we have our boxing analyst. But he's actually nowhere to be found. Max, I'm looking for you, if we can, not for basketball, nothing basketball or football related, but boxing, if you're interested, please get out of,

sorry, Murdoch, I know you had something to say. That's good, we got a good check for him. I'm gonna take, I'll get him tomorrow, I'm gonna take some for you, I'm gonna take some for you tomorrow, I'll take some tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, please. I'm looking for him.. I'm gonna text him for you. I'm gonna text him for you tomorrow. I'll text him tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, please. I'm gonna be looking for him.

Yeah, yeah, tell him we got, you know, Mike, tell him how we do business, man. Tell him we do great business, man. We do great business. Tell him we- Max is a good dude, man. And when it come to that boxing, you ain't lie. He's one of the best at it.

Max is a great dude. But y'all know on first take, they won't, they tell you, hey, you got a hot tape? Put that hot tape, got it. I'm like, you better make sure that hot tape got some real on it, because that sizzle gonna come back and bite your ass if you just throwing anything on the stove.

You see what I'm saying? So, yeah. Listen, let me tell you something, Mike. Max Kellerman was on first take four or five years, and I thought he was great. I didn't think he was bad, but I liked every time. You was a guest on first take better. You was sensational on first take, man.

I remember watching y'all on location in Dallas and you sweat your makeup off, man. Losing your damn mind about them damn cowboys, man. He was losing his mind. They had to come behind, the people who work behind the scenes had to come and get you over. You got so excited and so mad. I said, look how passionate this nigga is. This nigga crazy right here. I didn't even know what you was talking about,

but yeah, you let Stephen Nate get you riled up. I said, we gotta get Mike, that nigga passionate about this shit. Hey, hey, Stephen, they had me over there writing, talking about, man, look, Mike, cause this is his show, this is my show. I said, that's what you at, my house, you are in my house. Yeah.

You know so, that's the sensation of it, so. That was my dude. That was my dude. Real quick Mike and I know it's that, we gotta get to the next topic, I'm sorry about that. We had Torello ends up here today before yesterday and he said you can't fuck with him. He basically said, there's a big gap between you and him

and he's like, I don't even know why you bringing him up. He said, you got 65 touchdowns. He don't know when he exceeded that. He said, you all right, but you ain't on his level. I was just wondering how you felt about that. Basically saying you will be on that lower tier and there's a higher tier. In the Hall of Fame, you'll be in the basement.

He said basically. I understand, but down there in the basement holding up all them damn rings, that's the only reason I sunk to the bottom Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who that? You know, with the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever is the hand that wears the ring. Yeah. That's sad, man. Hey, stuff like that is heavy,

but I guess he wouldn't know about them golden diamonds. That stuff, you wouldn't even know how heavy it is. Yeah. You should never grab one. I understand. I understand. All right, I dig it. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. one. I understand. I understand. You know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I ain't mad. Mike kept his short and sweet, boy. Nuff said.

Yeah. Okay. So we're not taking no junk from nobody. Yeah. Nobody. Mike said the ring's heavy. Fuck you talking about? Okay.

So. Listen, I stand by mine. I stand by about. Okay, so. Listen, I stand by mine. I stand by mine, one last thing on this, I stand by mine wholeheartedly. You can take all of them, those so-called guys, they caught a lot of passers, the TOs, the countin' judge, all of them, I love them all, the Chris Carters, but never took home that bling thing called a ring. Woo! I guarantee you.

I guarantee you, they will trade their career for mine secretly, openly, and they'll talk about it. I shall never mind for theirs. Just a few more receptions and a few more touchdowns. The rings and things. I'm giving away too much. The rings and things. I don't think about bring them out.

The rings and things you sing about, bring them out. Nigga, things you sing about bring them out. Fuck is they talking about? Yeah. I'm stealing that. That's Biggie Smalls. That's Biggie Smalls. Yeah, the rings and things you sing about bring them out. I like that.

Okay. Well, well said, Mike. Enough said. So moving along, let's talk about this NBA All-Star Weekend. They announced the participants of the Dunk Contest, which includes Mack McClung, Stephen Castle, Boozellus, and Andre Jackson Jr. Mike, what do you think of this lineup for the Dunk Contest?

What? Right. And you can go from a W-H-A-T to, honestly, when you compare it to what the Dunk Contest used to be, not just the what, but also who? You see what I'm saying? Who, who, who? Really, wait, but when you used to get Michael Jordan

in there because it was almost the superstar, the next superstar was going to be in the dunk contest to get that branding and everything. I wish they'd get back to either that superstar being a part of this or, or, or, and I thought about this when we were talking the other day, uh, Cam, when you guys brought down, bring some guy, bring some NFL players and let it go get some of these NBA players on a dunk contest or something. I think that you sit up and make your fun That would be crazy Mike. I see you trying to segue into your behind the back dunk and you and beyond in the mouth Duncan shout out the coach from I see what you trying to do. I did a little study and you know

Being an analyst that was was that a segue Was that call a segue you try to set up your next move? Crazy, but think about how fun that would be you put it and make a contest out of NFL Versus the NBA those four guys and you get four guys and a total score points and stuff like that, dude That would be right now you're going to get the NBA players in there and the NBA fans you'll get the NFL fans It'll be I I don't know why they don't send me a check for that idea Yeah, cuz you gave it away pause for free Mike. You should have spoke to me. Oh, yeah spoke to me or your agent. But yeah, this dunk contest, I mean, the people we want to see is John Marant.

Another person we want to see in there is Zion. It would be crazy to see Zion in a dunk contest, you know, fully healthy, pause, and John Marant going against John Marant with Mac McClung in there. And then, you know, if you if you can't throw one of the mother high flies in their paws, I would even like to see LeBron James Junior in there. If if if is that is not going to be in it, that would be a way to get his name hot, you know, for something really good and something really positive. I think that would be great for even for his brand,

just to be out there and people to see his athleticism. I'm not gonna talk about it. I'm gonna take my time to talk about something else. Caitlin Clark actually, cause I don't know who the fuck is in the downtown, they can't get my touch. Caitlin, not bad NBA All-Star weekend. And Caitlin Clark says she doesn't want to be part

of the three point contest. Niggas reaching out to the WNBA for-Star Weekend and Caitlin Clark says she doesn't want to be part of the three-point contest. Niggas reaching out to the WNBA for the last few years trying to get them to be part of the male portion of the All-Star Weekend. She said, nah, I'm cool. That's how bad All-Star Weekend is. That they're saying, yo, Caitlin, what you doing that weekend?

She said, getting my nails done. I don't have time to be at the three-point contest fucking with this bum ass weekend. Best thing All-Star weekend got is Kenny Smith parties that he be throwing. That's the best thing going at All-Star weekend to be totally honest with you. And until they fix it, I'm not gonna pay attention to it.

I mean, I think I gotta go this year for some engagements. Am I going to the game? No, am I going to the three point contest? No, am I going to the dunk contest? No, am I going to the three point contest? No, am I going to the dunk contest? No, am I going to the skills challenge? No. So, and the names that ring off, no disrespect to you guys,

I know you're taking this opportunity to get y'all shy, but may set the names that we wanna hear. So when Caitlin Clark says she doesn't wanna be a part of it, she doesn't wanna be a part of it, I'm gonna take my last 90 seconds and ask what the fuck is wrong with Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen, you have to stop this shit talking about that you will have six championships without Michael Jordan. Every year or every other year you come along with some wild shit trying to diss Mike, then you

be cool with Mike. Then you say LeBron is better than Mike. Then you say you're better than LeBron. You look like a bug out. And Scotty, I understand that they put a microphone in front of you once in a while, and then you feel how you feel. You had an opportunity to win a championship with Michael Jordan, actually, for a year and a half, and you didn't do it.

I remember you didn't even wanna get back in the game because Phil Jackson ran a play for Tony Kukoc, and you had a little ad to Tony Kukos still hit the shot. You were great and I don't think Michael Jordan, you were great and I don't think that Michael Jordan would have won them championships without you. Absolutely not. Takes a team to win a championship. But you wasn't like that, nigga.

What you mean you wouldn't have won six without Mike? You had a whole time to win a championship when Mike retired in between them couple years he took off. Cut the shit. And that's that. Well, real quick about Caitlin Clark. She did say that she wants her first three point competition to be at WNBA All-Star, which makes a lot of sense.

She wants to put into the organization, especially since it's going to be in Indie. And then the second thing, I honestly just feel like with the DUN contest now, kind of like, and we've talked about over the course of a couple episodes how players are kind of losing that hunger. Right now it's just like, they're using it as vacation. They're going off, they're traveling, which makes sense,

but it's like, y'all should want to play, like, cause there's a lot of names and faces that we do want to see, not see Mack McClung win every single year when he's, yes, he's on a two way, but he's not on a team for real, for real. So it's like, we don't want to see that. Yeah. Okay.

I think when it comes to the NBA, these these players have worked a whole life to get to the NBA. I think some players have worked and Mike Michael Irving, you probably can attest to this as well, that some people work to get to that level. Not everybody worked to be great at that level. So once they start getting a check for 100 million, 75 million, you're 22 years old, getting 58 million, you gotta really decide why are you playing now? Because now you got what you actually been trained

since a kid to get, the big contract. Now you got the big contract. Not everybody wants to be great. And that's what I recognize in the psychology of all of the players that I've seen over the years. I said, wow, well, why were they doing this for 800,000? Why was Jordan doing that for two for $2 million? That's a built in hunger that everybody doesn't have. I mean, you see the same thing with rappers, with entertainers, the same thing.

Everybody don't wanna be great. Some people just want to take care of their family, and once they get that, they actually peek out, pause, because they don't have another thing, another higher goal. Well, it makes, to your point, I think you're 100% accurate with what you just said. But, and I know so, inflation and time moves on and so forth, but when you're getting, let's say,

because much as you, Michael Jordan, for example, he made $111 million his whole NBA career. I have nothing to do with Jordan Brand, and I'm talking about NBA dollars. 111 million, we not factoring taxes. These niggas contract they first cause like you look at job Morantz renewal 200-something million That's set if you do the right thing

Yeah, it's your money you get eight hundred thousand a million a year and you pay taxes. You got to play next year You got to play 82 games You got a play You gotta play 82 games. You gotta play at least, you know what I'm saying? Like, nigga like, yo, I'm getting paid 225 million for three years, four years. I might if I missed 72 games this year, you understand? I've seen an interesting stat.

I actually screenshot this. And shout out to Scooter Free Band, my nigga's Free Band, Scooter Down with Future. Y'all should actually check his page out there. My niggas free band Scooter, Down with Future. Y'all should actually check his page out out there. He's really, really funny. Cause he puts up these things about athletes like kids never give up, look what this nigga made.

Look what that, and he didn't even score tonight. And he actually posted, what up Scooter, much love. He actually posted an interesting stat. And I screenshot this yesterday. Joe LMB has made $125,695,189 all while he sits on the bench. So this is all his bench time. He's made 125 million when he's not playing. Wow. That's crazy. He's made 125 million when he's not playing.

That's crazy. We just said Michael Jordan got 111 million as a total. This man, Joel Embiid, made 125 million when he's not playing. It's crazy. It is crazy. And that's why more people are gonna start trying to play basketball.

Okay, so Ronnie James got a lot more playing time. He got 15 minutes for the Lakers versus the Sixers. He finished the game with zero points, three rebounds, one assist and one block while shooting oh and five from the field. The Sixers ended up beating the Lakers 118 to 104. Mike, do you have confidence in Bronny James? This is what's been so interesting when you watch this maturation process with Brawny James. The other day he goes into G League and goes off, you know, he has a good game, gets 30

plus points in there. And everybody said, oh, okay, so maybe there's something there. Just give the man some work. And then he comes in, you know, NBA and he has this kind of game. And it gives the naysayers the chance to say, I told you all his brother's just dead name is carrying him. Most young guys will have some quiet time to grow. That's the hard thing for Brunny

because he's not going to have any quiet time to grow. To take that 30 plus points and put in the G League and work on that game and get yourself ready to maybe transition into the NBA and have a good prosperous career but since you're the son of the king you're the prince. We don't give you any chance so you know I still say I understand that you're benefited from all of those extra eyes I understand you benefit probably from the man making the speech speech and he wants to play with his son But the brunch need the other little brunny James need a little just a little more time

I think it says you that he can have some whatever career course won't be that like his dad But I think you can have somewhat of a career between what you see he won't be that like his dad, but I think he can have somewhat of a career between what you see him doing in the G League and what you're seeing him doing in the NBA right now. Yeah, I think this is an interesting situation when it comes to Bronnie James. The more and more I find out about it and the more and more I read into different things

that are happening now because I've been watching Bronnie James since they were in basketball since they were really little kids. I mean, I watched him play with Mikey Williams. I watched him play all the way up, you know, through the AAU circuit. And there's always been something that was said. He was a good shooter. He was very athletic. And I think as as time went on, like Kim said this the other day,

it's just as you cross that age from 14 to about 16, then you start to figure out who's going to be better at the next level. And when you get in college that first year and that second year, we start finding out who's going to be better on a pro level. And I think when he leaves after that first year, because he had, you know, the whole, the whole, um, heart scare and, and, and that situation, it, we, we weren't allowed to see what he, if he was really ready for the next level.

I mean, to a lot of us, we thought because of what we seen, six points that he wasn't ready for the next level. So then when he gets to the league and he's getting zero point three and point zero point three and assists and then probably I meant in rebounds or something like that and then zero point four then probably I meant in rebounds or something like that and then zero point four and in assists or rebounds somewhere is everything is zero point something. So it makes you think, well, did they rush them? But then you have to think if he stayed in college, would he even get

this kind of opportunity? So that's why I said I'm conflicted because in a real sense, he just got to make the most of what he got, because if he waited four more years or three more years, I'm not sure if LeBron would be in the same place basketball wise to be able to push all of this through. You know what I'm saying? So I wish him the best. I think the best thing for him was is actually to play in the NBA, because in a good sense, remember, Kobe had that horrific first year.

But this is Kobe Bryant now that when we look back, maybe all of this is just learning curves, pause and is just growing pains. And next year, because he understand this now a 20 year old LeBron James comes out a much much better player because of all of this and that's what I'm wishing and hoping for That's a great take. Come in Mikey Williams. I just was checking the average in three Hey, you see what what's going on man? Are you say he was gonna be that me what's happening? He's going on, man? You say he was gonna be that nigga. What's happening? He's going to church now. What's that mean?

So he probably lost the love of basketball. Sometimes people dive into religion and they really are not, they don't see what they used to do as that important. You saw the tape I saw. When he was looking. In the gym? Yeah, he was looking. He was looking. In the gym? Yeah, he was looking crazy in the gym.

I was a few months ago. But that's what I was saying, so. That's the only thing I could equate it to. Yeah, and listen, I'm not one to even question that. You would know better than anybody. Yeah. But from what you're telling me is that when he got the guns, he's nice.

And that's what it's like with Mikey once he gets born again, or somebody can say the same thing about me. Yo, I want murder, murder, you know what I'm saying? And it's like that, that takes that away. So I'm not mean or disrespect Biden by that name. I get that, man. I equate it to you, actually, to be honest with you.

Bronnie James, pardon me. Mase made a super good take on it. I didn't look at it from that perspective. But basketball's a little different when it comes to college athletes and football. I'm just gonna go back to college because the longer you wait to get to the NBA, the more they seem like you ain't shit.

NBA is where if you nice, you supposed to be one and done. If you stay in two years, then he okay. If they're all four years, they be like, all right, he might go overseas. As opposed to college, we had a topic we couldn't get to. There's a nigga that's transferring, he's 32 years old, that's in college playing sports. Football player.

Luke Larson, East Carolina Punter. He's fucking 32, bro. What position, though, Paul? Punter. Yeah. That's cool, though. 32 is 32. Punters are usually, Miami, our punter was 30.

Exactly, this is not right. Like, it's not right. This is this fucking 30-year-old grown man playing against 19-year-old boys, some of them maybe 18. I seen a nigga from Alabama this year who did work. He was 17. Like this. I don't know if I agree with that killer cause it ain't like he running past niggas.

He just kicking. What I'm saying is if a kicker, like look at Pat McAfee, he was a kicker. Yeah. But Pat McAfee, he was a tough kicker. He fucking tackle you if you come his way. Every punter ain't no soft nigga. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know they only on the field for one, two, three, four, five plays a game, but if the way. Every punter ain't no soft nigga. You know what I'm saying? I don't know they only on the field for one, two, three, four, five plays a game, but if the 30-year-old punter and a nigga returning it to 17 and he get past everybody, and you're running to a 30-year-old grown man, he can knock you out a couple weeks. Pause. He put you out special teams for a couple weeks.

I just don't think that is right. That it gotta be an age limit. I just see some shit the other day where a professional baseball player is quitting baseball to go back to college to be a quarterback. You see, I don't know if y'all seen that. This is a real story.

I seen this about two days ago. That a nigga is a professional baseball player. He has the opportunity to be a quarterback in college, niggas quitting baseball to go back to college. I think he like 25, 26, and he like, I killed him in baseball, or I think he had money automatically, he didn't go to college,

he went straight to the Major League Baseball now. Our school wants him to play. What the fuck are we doing? What are we doing out here? Where's no age limit? This shit was not allowed when I was growing up. I don't know when this shit changed after COVID before. I don't know when this all changed

where you could just be any age you want and go back. Do I still have eligibility? Cause I do. You do. Do I? I'm gonna see what I can do. You do. And they'll let you suit up. The thing about it, I can sell. You do. Do I? You do. I'm gonna see what I can do. You do. And they'll let you suit up.

The thing about it, I can sell tickets. Yeah. If anything else. Yeah, nah, I'll do it. If anything else, I'm on the layup line. You know me, I'm gonna sell some tickets, nigga. The layup line gonna be crazy. Yeah, on my college team,

one of the coaches started playing on my team. That's why I wanted to leave. The nigga was like 30 something years old. Oh yeah, you told me about it. But he was dumb diesel. The nigga was like, so I understand what you're saying. We was just skinny little niggas. This nigga was like, we used to call him Robocop, but he was good.

He was actually good, but he was like 32. Yeah, and you 19, 20 is not right. And you're talking about Bubba Thompson. He's 26. He did quit baseball even though he was drafted to go back and play college football, for those who are interested in that sport. And what school is he going to?

Uh. Yeah, this nigga's really leaving Bubba, whatever Bubba's, the nigga's leaving to go play fucking college. He's a professional baseball player. Anyway, sorry. Alabama, that's a lot. And anybody watching this, if you remember that play,

I'm talking about Robocop. Have them hate it is what it is. Yeah. But yeah, I'm sorry I'm been long with about the time. But before Barney James concerned, I wanted to get to the point, and Mase made some great points to SOTY and Mike, is that basically,

the longer you wait to get in the NBA from college, the more you supposedly aren't that good. We're sitting in, and I'm not throwing no shots because I know we had a little back and forth with Jello Ball, and when he was on Andrew Reese's podcast and he was saying he's still trying to get back into the NBA, Andrew Reese was like, but you're 26. And it's like, ain't Michael Pennant 26?

Ain't Bo Nicks about 25, 26? So she come from the city, she got that same mindset. No, she's saying that you're too old to try and be studying in the NBA. That's what she was saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She share your mindset. That ain't necessarily my mindset.

What I'm saying is that's basketball people's mindset. If you're 26 and you just trying to get in, you miss your time basically. As to wearing football, yo, he got a COVID year, he got a red shirt year, oh, he got hurt this year. And you got athletes like Bo Nicks and Michael Pennings. Even Jayden Dan is five years playing college, you know what I'm saying?

And look at, look how he's doing. It took five years. But in basketball, it is frowned upon, and with Bronnie James, he would be a sophomore right now in college. I think, you know, he would be a sophomore. He didn't have a great year at USC because of health reasons. Imagine he stayed at USC.

I think he would have had a decent year, but you take the opportunity that you have that your father presented for you. My personal opinion is stay in the G-League, stay under the radar, and point Mase board up that I wasn't thinking about that LeBron may not have the leverage that he has now, but he'll have it next year. He'll still have it next year,

and he'll have it the year after because niggas, you can look at Bron and he's not about to fall off tomorrow or the day after. And like I said, after a while, he won't have to leverage one of these days. But I think he'll still have leverage for the next couple of years. I would keep staying in the G-League,

staying under the radar because when you're in the G-League, they're only showing Bronny James' highlights. When you're in the NBA, they showing all his mistakes. So I would- Right, that's what I'm saying, bro. Yeah, he would have been a superstar in the G League, and actually his jersey was sold out the first day he came out,

because I was actually up there to get a jersey. I bought a LeBronnie James jersey, and they was just sold out. you had to back order it. Yeah, but what I was saying is like, yo. What you got me talking about? Mike, I'm sorry. That's what they're using. No, you're right, Kim, they're using it against them,

and that's unfortunate, because I took it and used it in its benefit, okay, if you're putting up 32 points over here. Like you said, that'd have been a South foreign high School right now. He could have been averaging 15, and college, I mean, he could have been averaging, you know, 15 points a game for a year,

and then move back to 2025, and then getting ready to come to the NBA and play, but he don't have that time to develop because he's not on his clock, he's on his father's clock also. Right. But I say, you know, give that man some time. And I like the putting up the 32 points says, yes, he can.

Yeah, give him time to develop. And one more thing, looking back at this, it looks like it would have been a better pick for him to go to Boston. I want to put that out there because looking when you look back on people's careers, it's not just their talent, it's what team they went to that plays a lot into their career. So I think if he goes to Boston, he'll have a better career than playing in LA

because it put way too much pressure on him. Yeah, I just don't think personally, he's not ready for the NBA. And being under LeBron James' spotlight is a lot. What I think they're doing is saying, oh, he had 32 last night, let's bring him up for a game, see how it works out. And you have people who like, nah, nah,

this nepotism shit going too far, I'ma bust his ass tonight. And they're mad about it because you have people who have roster spots that they do is people that's worked hard who want that spot People who's overseas or people who's in the G League be like now this is this niggas taking the spot I'm not having it, but I think Both you guys may send Mike. I made some very very good points. Just my final point is G League they show you highlights. NBA, they show you faults this year.

Stanley G League and then have a great summer and summer league again and see what happens from there. But I'm definitely wishing them the best of root for them. Yeah. And then real quick, because we do have to go to break, but just kind of hearing what you guys said, the rebuttal would kind of be like, well, time is of essence

if he would have stayed in college for an extra year. Like I felt like the timing kind of was right because let's draft him while he's hot because you just don't know what could have happened within those next years, kind of like the Mikey Williams situation because he was a high prospect. And if all that things didn't happen,

he probably would have got drafted earlier. And then that point, I feel like now his draft stock is lowering because of his play at UCF. So it's kind of like, you don't really know what's going to happen. And I think just taking that chance is like, we're going to get him in the league regardless, because we don't know what might happen to him next year. Well, let me, guys, sorry. Yeah.

And the, and the, and the, and the league is not guaranteed for neither one, you know, because it goes back to the team you go to. If you go to a team where the coach ideology is to put the ball in your hand and we're going to win on your back, pause, then that's a different career than going somewhere and the coach changing your role and saying, no, you're going to be this on this team. And I think that's what both of them were looking at. So that's why they wasn't really, really looking at Brownie James going back. If he was at a school that was saying, you know what, next year he's this, he's

a starter, the ball is in his hand. You know, from the jump that would have worked, but when they didn't work out the first year, it didn't work out when he came back. I'm not trusting the next year. I definitely wouldn't trust that. And when I say this is in my last take, to that is Mikey Williams or LeBron or Bronny James. Look, when you're the man in high school,

you're going to school with niggas who were the men wherever they were from. So you're not just randomly going to school unless the coach got in your favor, like, oh, this is going, we're going to make sure you do whatever. I remember I didn't pass my CTs or whatever. I had to go to junior college.

And I'm like, I'm going to go kill niggas. And I ended up getting hurt. But I remember practicing before I got hurt in the first few months before the regular season started. And I was like, damn, this nigga from Mississippi got a mid-range game? I was getting mad. Nigga, fuck is this nigga from New Orleans good like this?

Cause I'm thinking I'm from New York, ain't nobody badder than me. And these motherfuckers be good. You know what I'm saying? You sit there, I'm doing all this shit, this nigga coming up, motherfucker from Jackson, Mississippi come down, he ain't got nothing, no fist. He said, just stop, pull up.

Obviously, they got a mid-range game, it's 18. You know what I'm saying? So when you go, like I understand Mase at the church and I understand Bronnie through he went to, and I'm not saying none of that's wrong, but you're going to school with niggas that was the nigga every city that they was in. That, sorry Mike, what'd you say?

No, I'm with you, I'm with you on that. I remember going to them other places and I was like, you know, you dominating in your area. You were like, aw, these niggas can't touch me. Man, I was like, this nigga toe, this, did he just jump over my whole body? I think they were out of, well, I'm telling you, yeah. You see how the athletes.

Yeah, especially being from New York, we think we're the best niggas on the planet. You know, the internet now lets us know it's upper niggas, upper places, but when you're from New York, like man, fuckers we in here with these niggas, fucking country niggas. These niggas is nice.

Yeah. These niggas are fucking, fuck it, I ain't like no nigga from motherfucking Baton Rouge, Louisiana, getting fucked shit to. And these niggas is good. That used to be my attitude, and I'm like, yo. And then you gotta think about it for me, I'm already kinda upset that I'm not in Division I

because of my grades, so I'm like, I'm gonna go out at 72 when I get to junior college. And I got hurt, but niggas was good. I don't even think, to be honest with you, I would've had good. I don't even think to be honest with you I would have had to fight for a starting position to be honest with you Okay, well guys Jimmy Butler was suspended again find out what happened after the break Excuse me, after last night performance, we're gonna do this again? No.

That's a lie. I don't think so. And make sure you close the door behind you. When I tell the pussy up man When I tell the pussy up man I'm back! Oh hell no. Muchacho, levante. Toma esto, bebetelo. Right now? Vuel, vuel, cuña. Okay. Vuel.

Now, right now. Right now. Yeah. Welcome back. Now let's get into walk it off. One, go. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Tonight, the Lakers will play the Wizards. Underdog has LeBron James at 27 and 1.5 points. Do you have him high or lower mace? High.

King James. Anthony Davis hurt for a week, hurt his pinky. So LeBron's going to have to go higher. He fell on his fingernail. Yeah. He's out for a week, hurt his pinky. So, LeBron's gonna have to go higher. He fell on his fingernail. Yeah, he's out for a week now. So, good as he been playing, he's out for a week. Yeah, I was starting to pause, dig Anthony Davis. Yeah, he was having a sensational season.

Just playing, talking about you fell on your pinky nail, but you know. That's what happened. That's what happened? on your pinky nail, but you know. That's what happened. That's what happened? Yeah, pinky nail fracture. I think that's what happened. with Poole, man? He's worried about cats and playing basketball right now. Who's cats?

He's starting this like cat society thing. He's trying to put people- Animal, like Peter, the shit? Like, yeah, like he's recruiting members to be like NBA cat dads. See, this is the problem right here. This is the exact problem. That's too much money.

Yeah, and it's like yo, and this is when you're around a great organization. Yeah. They don't allow all this. When you win the championships and all this, when you're down with the Wizards, you gotta find other societies to be a part of because basketball is not a priority in Washington DC.

So let's start being dad cats. Well he said he might have convinced Steph. He asked Steph and Steph said he might. Yeah Steph ain't know who was calling us. Like yo who that Steph block that nigga after he got that call? I don't like the smell of cats. I don't like cats at all.

I don't like cats neither but I don't even like the fact. Man I would have loved to see Steph Curry's face when Jordan Poole called him and like yo I'm starting a cat dance society you know what I mean? And he like, who is this? Nah the nigga we used to do, Jordan Poole called him. Like, y'all starting a cat dance society, you know what I mean? And he like, who is this? Nah, the nigga we used to do, Jordan Poole. A cat, yeah, yeah, sign me up.

I'll hit you back. Block that nigga. Well, I hope it's going well for him. What is it about cats? Do you believe in the mystery of black cats? I think black cats are good luck for me, me personally. For real? Anytime a black cat cross me black cats are good luck for me, me personally. For real? Anytime a black cat cross me, I have good luck.

I do. I do. It's reverse for me. I don't like cats at all, but you know, see growing up in New York, and it's not like that used to, a lot of stray animals growing up in New York, and it's not like that as used to, there's a lot of stray animals growing up. Like random just walking down the street and you could walk past three random dogs, it was like no big deal, cats and everything else.

But every time a black cat was a moffin, saying, you know, I had good luck, a few weeks later, a month or year, whatever. I never heard that in my whole life, that's interesting. So what's your good luck? Rabbit foot. Yeah. Nah, let me stop.

That's what they say. Yeah, foxhole. Your hand itching. Yeah, stepping shit. This is, I mean, mine are butterflies. Y'all are naming like... No, that's stuff growing up. You're in palm position, you're going to get some money.

Oh. Yeah, I step in shit, I have're a power musician, you're gonna get some money. Yeah, I step in shit out of good luck. I'm not looking for shit to step in. See, this is a different New York mentality. Like, you gotta realize we grew up, and I know it seems so extreme talking about this shit today, but like literally crack valves, glass on the floor. Imagine playing basketball and have to dribble around

the glass. Like, seriously, like you have to dribble around crack valves and glass. Glass, seriously, you have to dribble around crack valves and glass, glass can get in your basketball. Yeah, and kick it off the court. Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying? And it was shit everywhere, because niggas wasn't cleaning up shit.

Like today, niggas be like, that's why I don't have a dog, I love dogs. But I can't clean shit up. I just can't do it. A dog is like a kid that never grows up. You continuously keep cleaning up shit for 12, 13. I can can't do it. A dog is like a kid that never grows up. You continuously keep cleaning up shit from 12, 13. I can't pick up shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only reason I don't have dogs.

Yeah, I got a dog. I let my sons walk them so they could pick it up. So you just... I would be so mad. I would be so mad at you. See, I ain't going front-mode it because look, that's what I was thinking. I'm like they heard that. I would be so mad. I would be so mad at you. See, I ain't going to front murder because look, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, look, I swear to God, that man tied, not the kiss, but she a wild nigga for that. But I was thinking that if I get a dog and have somebody else walk it, and then not only that, if I leave town and when I come back, I would be so mad that he's listening to the person

that's doing all the walking and taking him out there. Cause he, my nigga. Yeah, but whatever feeding him. That's what matters. Oh gosh, and Kyle Kuzma's at 17 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Hmm, that's an interesting one. I'm gonna go with Cam Pick on that.

Kuzma, I haven't heard Kuzma in a long time. Is he a cat dad? Is he a part of the cat society? He might not even like cats, honestly, but. 17? Where they playing at? The thing about it is this, Murda, I'ma be honest with you, I can't waste my time watching The Wizard,

so I'm not sure. Like right now, basically, I'ma be totally honest with you people, my picks are solely off their name. Cause I'm not, watching losers make you get a loser mentality, I don't need that in my life to gain that energy. You gotta burn sage after you watch The Wizards to get that shit off the TV and everything else. I would never walk in that fucking arena.

I love DC too, but I'm not, why would I go watch that? Unless I just want to take a girl out and be entertaining or whatever. If his hair's blonde as under, if it's not, I'll go over. We'll see what the dye is in his hair. I'm still like a bassist. I'm still like a bassist off. 17 half points, Kuzma.

Yeah, if they're playing in Washington, he should get that, he shouldn't be over that. Because if we're playing in LA, then he probably gonna go out. You know, niggas make their plans, he ain't gonna get it. Okay. You guys like these picks,

remember you always get a free pick if you're not already on underdogs. So make sure to support the show, sign up now and you can make your picks too. So Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely after finding out Haywood Highsmith would be starting over him. He walked off the court during team practice. This is his third suspension this season.

Mike, how do you think this impacts the Miami Heat locker room? And then just how do you feel about a third suspension by Jimmy Butler and all the things going on with that organization right now? Yeah, I feel, you know, that this is a couple of things I have to say. First of all, you know, Pat Riley is just, you know, he's a legend and one of those old dawns. And Jimmy Butler is he's one of those old dons. And Jimmy Butler is, he's that one. He's the one that care about anybody or anything.

You got to be right one baby when you start messing with Jimmy Butler. Now the thing is that you got to consider though, everywhere Jimmy's been, it's kind of ended like this. You know what I mean? Everywhere he goes, it kind of Indian like this, you know what I mean? Everywhere he goes, it kind of ends like this. He seems like he has a, what they call like those long relationship anxieties, like, you're out and get it about three years and then I got to let you know.

You know what I'm saying? That kind of thing. In Miami, I ain't holding on to him and not giving him his money because that's where it all stems from. You know, he wanted the extension, didn't get the extension, now you're holding on to him and you know he has this ability,

this capability to make everything go south and work his way out like he did in Philly and everything. So the sooner, if they can get anything forward, the sooner they make a move, I think will be the better. Because Jimmy's not going to capitulate and he's not going to give in. He's going to continue to do the things he's doing. Yeah, I think Jimmy is definitely,

we all know Jimmy is on his way, Paul is somewhere. Do you think he'll be better at, at, at, um, like the bucks or what, what type of team you think he'll be better with? I think that's a better question. Right. But, but, but for Jimmy, like, listen, and think about this now, you know, Jimmy, he, he's that scrapping player, right? He's scrap player.

now. You know, Jimmy, he's that scrapping player, right? Scrap player. I would like to see Jimmy go somewhere where he's not the main protagonist of the team, but that scrapping guy that's still a second or third team all-star, you know. So there are a lot of teams out there that can use a Jimmy Butler. It's just working the numbers and working the salary into those teams. And there's some teams, even fit wise, like you take, they talk about Phoenix a lot, because I know he's trying to get to Phoenix, right? He's trying to get to Phoenix. A team like that, he can bring some tough stuff to Phoenix.

Phoenix need tough stuff. You know, it just seems like it's a soft team. And that's what Jimmy Butler brings. So you know, but they're not gonna work out the numbers, Bradley Beal and all those guys, he has no trade calls in his contract. So it'd be hard to work all of that out. Yeah.

Before we get to Jimmy Butler, I made some calls yesterday last night. And if it doesn't happen this year, Darren Fox gonna end up in San Antonio next year So I remember makes you was talking about that. Yeah Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna end up this year if it doesn't have him by the trade that line then he's gonna he's gonna end up being in a Sad Antonio not a sense part me San Antonio next next year. So, remember I told you guys this.

That's why I wear the glasses. The niggas asking me why I wear the glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Niggas still shootin'.

She damn right, she still shootin'. Nah, I'm just. Yeah, like I said, I've talked to a few people and that's about a 90% thing that that's, unless something amazing else happens, but it's looking like the fox and the alien's gonna be in San Antonio. That's a beautiful thing.

I'm back at San Antonio, fam. You see her hat on the black and silver. You see her hat the black and silver on. Yeah, it just works like that. It works. It just works like that. Yeah, but as far black and silver on. Yeah, it just works like that. It works. It just works like that. Yeah, but as far as Jimmy Butler's concerned, look, it's two things.

Mike made a great point. This is how everything ends with Jimmy Butler, whatever it is, Minnesota, Philadelphia, now it's looking like Miami, it doesn't end well. And I know Jimmy Butler, playoff Jimmy is a real thing. Jimmy Butler has taken the heat of the championship, Statenose, with the team on his shoulders,

not saying they have decent pieces around him, but he was that nigga, you know what I'm saying? But when you're dealing with Pat Riley, I think because we have a tendency not to remember last night, When you're dealing with Pat Riley, I think because we have a tendency not to remember last night, that you don't know who you're dealing with. We brought this up the other day

and then I had to really think about it. I sat there and I didn't even do any homework. Pat Riley, and this is states to longevity, Pat Riley has been involved in a championship series every decade since 1970 every decade So how was you talking to you talk about the 70s? He won as a champion. He played with the Lakers Then in the 80s, he's the coach of Lakers went to five championships

Then in the 90s, he was coaching the Knicks and went to the championship which they lost. Then in the 2000s you went to championship with D Wade and Shaq 2003. Then in the 2010s you sit there and get LeBron James and D Wade and Chris Bosh and you go to four championships. Now we're in the 2020s and then you get to the championship in the bubble. He's been in the championship series

for since 1970s, 80s, 90s, 2000, for six decades, nigga. That's longevity. So when niggas be trying to talk the pad around, he be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, who the fuck is, you know? Yo, niggas better Google me, nigga. You think you gonna get what you want? I don't think you know who I am, you know niggas better Google me, nigga. You think you gonna get what you want? I don't think you know who I am, man.

You know when niggas start rubbing their nose like, yo, my man, I don't think you know who I am, my nigga. I've been in a championship series since 1970 as a player, as a coach, as a GM. What the fuck is, man, you know what? I don't even want nothing for you, nigga. Cause I'm gonna go, I'm gonna be in another championship series, I just gotta figure,

may take a couple years. But that speaks to longevity. Cause whether you win or don't win, sometime you'll get to two, three championships and then that'll be it for you. To be in a championship series six decades is wild. And I think that's a under, I think he's not praised enough for that,

for being a basketball mind that he is. So shout out to Pat Rowley. I think Jimmy Butler, he's trying to go to James Harden route and it's not necessarily working. Cause you're dealing with- Yeah, they didn't figure that James Harden was the way out.

Cause you're dealing with Pat Rowley. If James Harden had to deal with Pat Rowley, I don't think that it would good James Harden wouldn't even, Pat Row Riley just not having it. But we'll see what happens, man. Shout out to everybody over there. But we got to stop acting like Pat is not a great basketball mind. Yeah, that's all about 16, 16 championship appearances.

And to your point, Kelly, he did it on two different coasts. Some people are just good on the West Coast or they understand the East Coast. He did those multiple things on both on two different coasts. Yeah, I mean, either way, I just hope they figure it out. It's just not a good look. It's looking real messy between NBA reporters saying what's going to happen, the agent saying that's not what he said. And then we find out that's what was happening all along. I don't want to see Jimmy go out this way but clearly it's not going to end very nicely. So hopefully they figure out something soon because he is not playing very well. We can't just depend on Tyler Hero. What year was that that he had the hair with the black nails? That was last year. That's when everything started going down. He started

going downhill. He started doing his own thing And sometimes you just can't do that. But that is all the time that we have for today. Mike, it was a pleasure to have you. Mike, what happened to the glass house? What happened to the glass house? Well, anyway, it's the football season now. Right after, we'll start spending some time over in that glass house, if you

know what I mean. Right after the season. So during the season is all business. That's play. That comes after the season. I'm not telling anybody anything, because that's when I got in trouble last time. Let that go. You see what I'm saying? All right, guys. I can see you, Mike. All right, guys. All right, good to see you, Mike. All right. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want nigga? Everything nigga supersized, two big necks, like when they doing them two for five