IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN DEFENDS THE WR'S THAT WANT TO GET TRADED & WEEK 5 PREVIEW WITH THE PLAYMAKER!
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So, we doing here, hello y'all, uh
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good, man bro. How you doing today? Man. We're matching up here, man.
San Antonio. Never intend to match the Raiders.
You're the Raiders. I'm I'm like San Antonio right now.
I just dressed to get fresh.
You guys do the team thing.
I just do it for myself.
I don't do things to try and compare myself to teams.
That's you and Stats thing.
I wore red today for the heat.
I'm in Michigan blue.
I just like to wear Taylor Maze suits.
You gotta look at him, look, look.
I'm kind of figured he's got a shit.
I like that kind of talk. You know, listen, man.
Hey, man, listen, I like it too.
Okay.
First person I seen with that was Kim Kardashian.
First time I ever seen one of those.
He says this is how I have to walk around, you know?
Hey man, listen man, I'm happy you back, man.
I prefer it like this, to be honest with you.
I actually prefer it like this.
If you want to do it, if you feel more comfortable
to do the show like this, it's fine with me.
You know, listen, I'm into the theatrics. Just say it's my go to morrow. You know, I
come in tomorrow.
Well, today we are joined with our analyst Michael Urban. We can definitely hear you
laughing in the background. What do you think of the glasses?
Come on. No way.
Mike, some people shine so bright, they need protection from the sun, Mike.
I can dig it, I can dig it,
but listen to me as I'm sitting here watching
and I'm hearing this and it sounds really authentic.
There ain't no way, dawg.
Y'all out of all the ties in this whole big old ass world,
y'all pulled out the same exact tie
without talking to each other?
Ain't nobody said that to each other.
It may look like it.
It looks similar.
It does look like it from afar.
Mike, real quick, hold on real quick before we get to our tie.
You got a studious shirt tied around your neck
like a banana pause.
Like, yo, what is the yellow on yellow with the tie?
What's the studious...
Look at the pants, you know what I mean?
Look at the pants.
Okay, but you're playing golf today.
Mike, Mike, are you wearing mustard, Mike?
Where you coming from?
Ah!
What? What? What? What? Mike, are you wearing mustard, Mike? Where you coming from? Ah!
Like a rich white guy going boating?
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Where are you coming from?
Where are you at?
No, no, no, no.
I'm at the hotel in L.A.
But this is a new look.
I usually rock it on Mondays on the new show.
But today I just wanted to drop it on Wednesday also.
You know what I mean?
Because everybody's getting into,
this is how you guys have changed the industry.
And it's so funny that we're talking about this.
Remember all the TV shows, everybody wore the suits.
But then you guys brought out shows
and everybody's coming in, relaxing.
All the audience has gotten used to this.
So now the networks are following this lineup.
Everybody come relax.
Then I'm looking at y'all clean it in the church house mouth.
Wait a minute.
You see what I'm saying?
See, you know.
I know all these suits.
You know the change the game.
Yeah.
The game.
You know what it is, Mike? You know what it is Mike?
You know what it is Mike?
You know we come casual on the weekdays or we miss a flight and gotta be here later or whatever.
But the thing about it is people were clean cut but they wasn't like yo, fuck them niggas.
So you got the clean cut with the, fuck them niggas. So you got the clean cut with the, fuck them niggas.
You put it together, people is confused.
They like, oh shit.
We, cause when we first started the show,
they say, I remember, no, people wasn't sure
where to find us when we first started the show
and everything else.
They was like, yo, they letting Cam and them cursing
on ESPN?
Because people don't know.
Mase cursing is minimal.
You gotta piss him off.
It seemed like he cursing a lot
because he gets to the point.
He's real, he's real like-
Just carrying some of the weight that you put out.
Yeah, no, no, he know how to slice you without cursing.
I like to get to the straight butcher knife for us.
They ain't get to it, but I remember we was doing the show
and they was like, yo, they can curse on ESPN now?
And I'm like, yeah, that's what we wanted people to think.
But now they cursing at 12 o'clock in the afternoon
on ESPN for real.
So.
It's crazy.
Right, right.
That thing is changing, man.
You guys all got a hand in that because of the way you do things
and the way you handle it now.
But you guys do look exactly alike out there.
You know what you think and what's the difference in what you wear?
But it looks and it's clean, clean.
It's nice. It looks great.
So you look, you know, but I'm not really with all the 20.
You look, you know, but I'm not really with all the 20. Different look.
No, no.
Different look.
That's it.
Oh, the Florida boy, I'll wear a different style.
Man, everybody likes this new style too.
No, no, once you, once I seen the pants,
I was like, okay, I see what you going for.
I see what's going on.
I'm not mad at it.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
And dog, yeah, y'all get it, get it.
No, I'm one of the hardest niggas in the world. Yeah, right, right. Yeah. Y'all get it, get it. No one's one of the hardest niggas in the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let them know.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let them know.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Oh shit, nigga.
You got some, nigga, knocked the whole shit over.
Yeah, you ain't playing no games.
That's what I'm talking about, Mike.
Y'all make something.
You know what I'm talking about. Let me ask don't make something. You know what I'm saying.
Let me ask both of y'all real quick
before we get the show started.
Did you guys ever been matching outfits
with your girlfriends?
Oh, never, never.
What about you, Mike?
Mike have.
Have you ever worn matching outfits with your girl?
I don't remember everything.
CT, you know, I was all in and play right now. I don't know everything. CT, yo, I was all in and play right now.
I don't know, y'all.
I just, still, I don't know.
Early on, dawg, come on, man.
I go way back.
All the older than you guys, man.
I'm talking about when we first started getting some money.
Things like this stuff.
Me and my ladies, you know, we put on some stuff that was the same.
I was like, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was it same. I was like, you know. Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie, I think when I was in sixth grade,
I had the Benetton outfit for Easter.
Me and my shawty, we went Benetton on one Easter.
That's the last thing I remember.
It wasn't the same, but it was,
we was both Benettoned outfits.
I know people don't know what Benetton,
but I was that shit for a little minute.
Did you ever have the airbrush sweater
with each other name on it?
Yeah, I had that.
That made you realize that you love me
if you had the airbrush name on my shit
from Great Events from Six Flags.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Okay.
Hey, speaking of, before we start,
let's do this, since you mentioned it, guys.
Let's make sure we gotta bring pics in.
Our Halloween costumes, let's see who do the best.
Let's see who just, I never, but I think that'd be fun.
Yeah, let's do that.
We did it last year.
We did it last year.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, let's do that.
I killed it, I won.
I was OJ.
He was OJ, he had the jersey and everything.
Actually, I had OJ's real jersey, OJ's real helmet.
I came out and met when they met, OJ gave me everything.
Shoulder pads, all that shit.
Let's do it, I'm with all that.
It's a competition.
Competition begins now.
Mike likes starting that shit, let's do it.
Yeah, okay.
You put that man's stuff back on to win a Holley,
well, a Halloween contest.
This man gave you this out of his heart and soul.
No, he knew what I was, no, he ain't give it to me.
I had to take it back afterwards.
Like it was the real Buffalo Bills helmet,
the shit from the seventies, the real.
With the one bar.
Yeah, it was the real shit.
Like that was a rental. He didn't give it to me. Yeah, okay, a real shit. Like, that was a rental.
He didn't give it to me.
Okay, I'm gonna let it go from there. Let's go.
Okay, so let's start with Devontae Adams.
So the Raiders wide receiver informed the team that he prefers to be traded.
Mike, after hearing that, what do you think of the request?
And then what teams do you think would be a good landing spot for him to go to?
I was shocked, guys, because I was one of the guys that was there. Antonio Pierce is one
of my dogs. I spent a lot of time with him when I was first working out in New York and
he had just retired. We were both kind of in that retiring stage, kind of working each
other, walking each other through it. Now I went out there when he got the job.
I went out there.
And when I was out there, two people I talked to,
when they had me address the team and everything,
the two people I talked to,
was Matt Crosby and Devontae Allen.
And those guys were standing up fighting
to make sure Antonio Piers got the job.
So to see this about faced, it is surprising.
Because you know those guys were talking about doing it and doing it together and winning together.
This is after, remember, he came over there, two derators, to play with Derek Carr.
And Josh McDaniel got fired, Derek Carr got traded, and so he's now he reconnected
with Antonio Pierce. And now somehow they have gotten here. So yeah, that's sad to see
that happen. But oh my God. First, there's so the places I think he fits perfectly. It
would be bad for me if they send him to Kansas City,
because he fits perfectly there,
and they don't need any more help.
It would be great for him if they send him to New York,
because they really need him.
And now you're seeing some of the things
that Garrett Wilson is starting to chirp about,
because Garrett Wilson is six to chirp about because he's, Garrett Wilson is six feet 180 pounds.
I've had a stat today where he had 175 plays outside, 20 targets. So sometimes when you're
that small it's tough to make plays outside. So now you put a Devonte Adams outside and a Garrett
Wilson inside, you're doing great things, you know,
so you go there and he can do great things.
I mean, but not to be a homer, but I'm gonna say this.
I'm gonna say this.
Here we go.
Oh.
No, the Cowboys, the Cowboys, the Cowboys, Mike.
Best place for him, and it would be like man up
place for him. And it would be like manna from heaven to the Dallas Cowboys is to get the Vontae out.
CD Lambs. You want a CD Lamb chop and you want the Vontae.
No, no, no. Together, together. Remember when I told you guys.
Oh, but that's what I'm saying. You just want it all, man.
Yeah.
It's great.
No, no, no. No, what? What, no, no. What's wrong with me?
Everybody out here puts me in the head.
I'm not even talking about it.
It's open season right now.
I get drunk.
So ain't nothing wrong with that right now.
I told y'all, they need another offensive weapon.
This dude will erase all the mess up from the off season. Because even if we go back and rewind,
there's nobody you could have gotten this off season
any better than Devontae Adams.
I know God, I know God.
I know I shouldn't have gone to that hotel room.
I shouldn't have done all of that thing.
I know there ain't no way you won't let this happen.
I know I messed that up.
I'm sorry.
But if it did, oh my God, that's all I'm saying.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my God, man.
Yeah, Mike, Mike, you gotta chill out.
Out of all of the landing spots,
why would you say the Cowboys?
Where else would he say, Mace?
What else would he say?
Yeah, I mean.
What else would he say?
That's a good spot, though.
It's a good spot for him.
As a new kid in the school, Mike, this is bad, Mike.
I mean.
That's spot four.
I think Kansas City will be an overkill for us,
cause I think we're already doing pretty well.
The Adam to the team will definitely be overkill,
but I think of two places that come to mind
that he could do a reuniting with
and there'll be a perfect reunion.
And that's with the, um, jets.
He can reunite with, um, and Rogers because he did play with them for about,
what was that about eight years that they played together?
And then he could reunite with, with, um, what's the other
team I'm thinking about?
Derrick Carr.
Yup. Thanks.
Derrick Carr with the Saints.
Either of those two teams,
I think will be phenomenal for him
because he already have the chemistry with the quarterback.
He already kind of know the routes that he run.
They know his routes.
They know which hand to throw it to, all that type of stuff.
I think it will, it will cut down with some of the reallocating the time of getting back in the
swing of things with a new team.
It could take all of that time away because they already have that history.
They already have summer camps and they already have years of experience of
playing in hard times and hard games.
And I think that would be the best fit for him.
And I think when you think about, um, Pierce telling the reporters that he can't
even speak about when he last spoke to, to him, to Adams,
is a real problem that lets you know, he's out the door.
It's not just something they're, they're looking into.
This is happening in real time.
That makes it also appreciate you bringing it up man because this that's the part that bothers me
Yeah, and and and I hate that it happens, but it does
You know what we let people because we all know about it
We all have people that work for us and they're in there speaking on our behalf
and I try to warn, especially my brother ones, make sure your ear is in those meetings. Make sure,
you know what I mean, that whatever they're going back and forth about, it's just your money and
not their own personal stuff. You see what I mean? Yeah
That's what that's what trips me out to tell you guys to football players. You guys were connected that much
Somehow some way we got to get around all of the people that talk for us and make sure we talk
That's all I'm saying
Yeah, cuz we got the wrong people doing that, it could go really well.
I meant really wrong.
I'm just going to be totally honest with you.
If we're picking a landing spot,
me personally, I'm going with the Jets.
You got spoiled.
It's like, I talk about this a lot, Mike, on the show
about being, and I'm relating this to a record company.
When you're in the best record company
and they're taking care of you and you're doing everything
and all you gotta do is get in the booth and rap
and your marketing is right and your promotion is right,
your tour is set up, and all you gotta do
is show up and rap and then go do your show.
Everything is hunky-dory until you don't have
a really good deal and then you gotta figure out
how to do things for yourself.
Who's running marketing?
Who's running promotion?
Why isn't this playing on radio?
Why isn't this spinning on so-and-so?
And that's what Devonte Adams had.
You had Aaron Rodgers at the beginning of your career.
You had Aaron Rodgers, my nigga.
Now you missed the title run, I dig it.
And you did stick it out for six, seven years there.
I understand that, but you had Aaron Rodgers.
And then when you go, and not only you had Aaron Rodgers,
you had him through a couple of MVP seasons as well.
Two or three, at least two.
You had the creme de la creme.
And you go find out Der Derek Carr is not Aaron Rodgers
He's cool. He's good, but he's not Aaron Rodgers
Now you now your quarterback is Timmy two times. I don't know who the fuck they quarterback is
He's telling you the ball and he's not Aaron Rodgers, but this will happen when you want your money
I'm not knocking don't take the money money. But you gonna stay in Green Bay.
They wasn't giving you what you wanted.
I dig it, I understand it.
You gotta get paid.
Y'all was on the cusp of getting back to the Super Bowl,
but never made it.
You like, man, I did seven, man.
I gotta go get my money.
I dig it, you got your money,
and now you see what you stuck with.
This is- Now you playing with the best. Yeah and now you see what you stuck with
Yeah, now you see what you stuck with you wanted to get your money you got it now you don't like it
You got it. You don't like it now. You want to be traded and I dig it so to me honestly if you and Aaron Rodgers isn't seeming like he's having the best time and
We're in New York with the Jets as well. I know we still got a lot of football left to play,
but I think that'll be a great reunion.
I don't think Derrick Carl worked out with him ever.
The best success he ever had is with Aaron Rodgers.
And I think that's the best success
that he has moving forward.
All I can say is you got paid, you can't cry.
Could have took less money, stayed in Green Bay,
and possibly Aaron Rodgers may not have wanted
to leave Green Bay.
The number one receiver's gone.
Now he already don't fuck with his coaches.
You see, Aaron Rodgers is just be having an attitude problem.
He don't like nobody.
That nigga pushed his coach the other day
after he scored a touchdown,
told him don't be hugging me and all that shit.
No, dude, that was something. He pushed the nigga off him, don't be hugging me and all that shit. No, dude, that was something.
He pushed the nigga off there.
Don't be hugging me and all that.
He tells LaFleur in Green Bay, he don't know more than me.
Because LaFleur's kind of young.
I think Aaron may be older than LaFleur by a year or two.
And he's like, I'm not really thinking
I have to respect him like that
because I actually won the Super Bowl.
I'm actually been in the league longer
and playing longer than him.
Aaron Rodgers has zero respect for a lot of people
and I think he does have respect for Devontae Adams.
So maybe that'd be a great reunion,
but you wanted your money, you got it.
It didn't say get 140 million for five years and you win.
That wasn't in the contract, niggas.
You got paid.
This is what comes with it.
And let me drop, Cosell, for that,
I must say I honor him.
And we're talking about Devonte Adams here
because I know that move when you start thinking
quarterback to quarterback,
and then Green Bay remember came out and said,
oh, we would have paid him.
Yeah, shut the hell up.
What are you shitting?
Shut up.
You know what I mean?
So when they say that, they just say that afterwards.
They say that afterwards.
But here's what was important with what he did,
which I'm happy with.
I would always be with you guys 100% of the time.
I'm not an up one, not 100% of the time.
But this time, I'll give you the one reason
I was happy he made that decision,
which probably wasn't the best decision
for his career individually,
but the best decision for all receivers
that come after him?
Career.
Decisively.
You see, he was part of that big shift.
Receivers had gotten to a number of 20 million.
But him and Tyree Hill in that movement jumped it to 30.
And now these guys are pushing for 34 and 35.
I know Devontae didn't have an ending like he wanted,
but I gotta honor the man for moving the machine
for the young, for the receivers that are coming after us,
if you know what I mean. No, absolutely. Listen, I'm not knocking his decision.
I'm not saying it was a bad decision or a good decision.
I'm saying you made the decision,
now you want to leave the decision that you made.
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying,
Mike, if it's good, badder, and different,
I have no opinion on that.
I'm one of these niggas, my nigga.
Go get your money. Go get your money.
Go get your money,
because we sit here and see all type of NFL players,
NBA players selling their Super Bowl and championship rings
on the internet for $3,200.
So everybody's not gonna be financially well off
after they play.
Now these new numbers are coming in.
If these niggas fuck up this large amount of money
that they get in there, then they stupid.
But at the end of the day-
You know what?
If it can, we gonna hear about some of them.
Yeah.
Go hear about it.
You know it.
Yeah, listen man.
You know it.
Absolutely.
But the point being is, I'm not mad at the decision,
but the point is, now you were out of the decision
that you made when this possibly could have been the road you were going down.
So I implore anybody to go get their money.
But if it's two years later and shit ain't going right,
and you want out, you got to pay, nigga.
And a lot of his money is based on incentives.
He only got 68, close to 68 million guaranteed out the 140. So you ain't
even really get half of your money guaranteed. That's why I think it's one of them.
But also now, it's not just him trying to leave either. He wasn't trying to do that.
It's the only thing Negan Garner from anyone in the league is offering him up as an asset.
And I believe this is where the discourse started happening.
Okay, you could say, well, a bad crop, it must be quite an asset too.
I'm sure some people know him, I want him.
But given the difference, it's the difference here.
I told somebody today, I said, oh no, no, no.
They said, well, Cowboys got too many run problems.
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to fix all them holes.
In that bucket, the run defense,
you ain't got enough play dough, clay dough, clay,
whatever it takes to pile up and fix all them holes.
But what you got on offense, this one dude would.
You see what I mean?
That's the kind of talent he is.
So, you know, it's just, yeah.
And for him, he tried, and he probably wanted to.
But they say, just like, we ain't got nobody else.
And we can't sit here.
So you gotta be the only thing we offer up.
And yeah, that's where they are.
Well, listen, Mike, and I'm totally not disagreeing with you.
I'm not, everything you say I take in the knowledge
until it has something to do with the cowboys
and I just zone the fuck out.
But what I'm saying is this,
if you're coming around moping and complaining
and you're hurt when people not make that think you're hurt,
I'm gonna start making phone calls too.
Let niggas be around here, I'm open on the job.
Word?
I'll get you the fuck out of here, man.
I don't like your attitude, I'm not gonna be around it.
If you keep complaining, you know niggas.
And I'm not saying this happening.
You know way more than me.
But no, I'm with you on that, buddy.
I'm with you on that because I say it to myself like, wait a minute.
And when we were talking about it on the other show, we're talking about it.
And we're looking into it.
Some people say it, when Coach Pierce said some people made business decisions,
they were talking about him.
I said, no, it's impossible.
This dude here works hard, he runs hard.
And usually a business decision
I never thought about it from a receiver standpoint puts. I thought it would be visible
Business decision here. I'm shielding my body from pain, but I'm collecting all my money
You know what I mean? So you so so so I didn't see him flinching from throws and let balls get away
So I couldn't imagine they were talking about,
about the Vonte Adams.
So, you know, that's the part that confused me,
but I'm with you on that.
If this had gotten so bad to where you're in the locker room
and you're dividing things and that's how you turn around
and lose to a team that you sure you should be.
Then yeah, you got you got to make moves.
And if that's what they're doing, they got to do that.
Yeah, this is this is really just when a good idea goes bad.
That's all it really is.
I think when he thought about it, he was going out there, he was going to get his money and
you were going to a city you really thought you was going to have fun in.
So anybody look, he's from the area guys.
He's from that area. Yeah.
So he's looking like this is going to be a great place to be and I'm going to get
my money and it's just a good idea. Went back.
So now let's discuss Tyreek Hill.
So he tweeted woke up to trade news exciting.
So he's made it clear that he is happy in Miami.
But after hearing all of this speculation, do you guys believe it would make sense for
him to go anywhere else?
Mike?
No, no, no, no, no.
Well, not given the information that we have at this time, the only thing we can do is
make decisions from the information given.
I suspect that Tua will be playing football again.
And if that's the case, Tariq has made no bones about where he wants to be
and how much he loves where he is.
So if I know I got Tua, I got three more weeks, I got Tua back,
I can fight this fight, you know, before I go somewhere else and not be happy. I feel
Tyreek likes not just the life on the field, but the life off
the field in Miami. Brings the best out of the cheetah. You
know what I mean? Cheetahs know this one. Just kidding. That was a good one, Mike.
I think whenever someone makes the statement that they're excited about the trade news,
I think that's always like an underlining meaning to something that we're yet to realize
or know about.
It seems kind of sinister when he says something like that, because it would be
so easy to just say, I woke up today.
I'm knowing I'm not going nowhere, but to say excited about trade rumors is, is,
um, it was really kind of alarming.
I think with, with twoua being on the injured reserve,
I think he probably is not thinking about moving,
but definitely considering it, you know,
and the team may be doing the same
if they're thinking about their long-term future,
because if Tua is getting hurt and you got Tyreek Hill,
you gotta start thinking about your future at some point.
You can't keep saying we got all of this great talent,
but we never win.
I guess you gotta stop taking this money
and shit go left.
You wanna leave.
Shit go left after you got your money,
they niggas wanna leave.
Just for clarification,
cause I'm, you know, this is a new,
I've read it, but I didn't do any due diligence on it.
He wanted to be traded,
niggas was talking about trading him.
What exactly is happening?
For Tyreek Hill, he didn't say that he wanted to be traded.
He's happy in Miami,
but now he said he woke up to trade news.
Meaning?
And he just left, he just left the crumb.
He didn't say, he just left it open like that, poor.
He didn't turn it into a chain. like that, poor. Everybody's like eating it and turning it into a cake.
All he did was drop a crumb.
Everybody's picking that crumb up
and turning it into a full cake.
The man said earlier this year
that he told his agent, do your business,
but do not get me traded.
But now also, we gotta understand,
this decides too, now you guys kinda like, they like to be stroked a little bit, you know, and we see social media.
No, we can't do that.
We can't do that.
And they know that they get that, you know, there's a term.
Now, I'm not I'm not saying anybody's dealing with this term, but they call it much housing. I just like the attention. I don't think I'm not saying anybody dealing with this term, but they call it munch housing.
I just like their attention.
I don't think I'm going anywhere.
It's any exciting trade news.
They were talking about anybody.
It's all exciting,
but now he makes people think they're talking about him.
That's just kind of munch housing.
Yeah, look, man.
Tyree got paid, not only this,
it isn't the same thing to me as Devontae Adams,
because Tyree Hill is a Super Bowl champion.
He got his ring.
A lot of people started towards,
and I say he's towards the end of their career,
but it goes like this.
You get your ring, then you want your money.
Then you get your money,
and then you start trying to chase the ring.
He got a ring, he got the money.
I don't know what the fuck this is really about.
Tua's hurt. I think Tua's gonna, pardon me, he's gonna be back and look like he got the money. I don't know what the fuck this is really about. Two is hurt.
I think Two is gonna, pardon me,
he's gonna be back and look like he was all right.
Wasn't like the last concussion from last situation.
That nigga gonna play football to the wheels fall off.
Somebody's gonna have to save him from himself one day,
or he's gonna be out on that field
as much as he could be out on that field.
I think this has much to do with nothing like Mike said,
my personal opinion.
Okay, well, we will see what happens. We'll see if he tweets more along the way, but we're going to go to break when we return.
We will get into our NFL week five predictions.
Don't go anywhere. She calls this thing about toxic Four years of counting
Got you feeling like adoption Maybe I'm all about one thing
She's outta here and I don't know What's up and it me won't fall, oh oh
Killing with this thing called trust But she really thinkin' I wanna be free
Why am I here?
Cause she wanna be free Hell, I don't want to see a walk away.
I wish somebody told me the rules.
Disagreements let a wind in this corner with his even when I'm right.
Welcome back.
Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
So today the Falcons will play the Bucks underdog has Baker Mayfield at half of an interception. Do you have him higher or lower Mace?
Lower that's crazy to happen to throw an interception. No, I'm not going with that make Mayfield's on fire right now pause
Yeah, I'm gonna give him one interception. No, I'm gonna give him a high. Okay, Mike Evans is that sixty and a half receiving yards
You have a higher lower cam.
Hi.
Hi.
Okay. And Kirk Cousins is at one and a half passing touchdowns.
You have a higher lower mace.
Hi.
Hi.
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We are joined back with our analyst Michael Irvin.
Yo Mike, real quick.
Yesterday, I went to go see the Dallas Mavericks practice.
They said leave them the fuck alone.
You jinxing everybody in Texas.
I was watching the practice.
I said yo, you know Mike's on the show.
They said tell Mike stay with the Cowboys. He went to all that shit and drink this
for the championship.
Shout out, I seen Luca, I seen Klay Thompson.
They said, Mike, tell Mike we love him,
but stick that shit with the Cowboys.
He fucked us up.
You went number 11 and you went number 77,
and you took about a May 88,
and then you predicted the Cal that bought me the Mavericks
the win and you they said nah so from the Dallas Mavericks they said they love you but please
keep it Cowboys I just meant to deliver that message to you you do know though you do know
Just a couple of weeks ago, at Nancy Lieberman's big foundation dinner, I did the presentation to one Jason Kidd for the humanitarian award.
Okay.
Put together a hell of a speech describing the coach of the Dallas Mavericks, talked
about his responsibility and why we should do it. This is the most important role in this country
because their position is to gather, guard,
and guide the youth of our America.
I put it down.
When I provoked Jason Garrett, this kid up, he hugged me.
He was really emotional.
He told me, you can come talk to the team anytime you want.
And I'm gonna come and reiterate that 117788.
I'm gonna come back.
I'm just letting you know.
All right, let me ask you one question before we start.
Who's worse?
I mean, he told you on dog.
No, I seen him yesterday at practice.
He didn't tell me about you.
The players told me.
I didn't, we didn't discuss you.
The players said that they see you on the show
and they love you, but you jinxed them.
That's all I'm saying.
Let me ask you one more question.
Who do you think is worse as being a super duper fan
slash jinx, you or Spike Lee?
Yeah.
Which one is worse?
You or Spike Lee as a super fan slash jinx,
do you guys think?
Hey, hey, hey.
Oh, come on.
Hey, that's just a lot of it.
You know what that makes it seem like?
You know, that's a great point you're bringing up, OK?
Listen, think about this.
And I want to enlighten people, because I think
you stumbled on something
And I don't even know if you know the brilliance of what you're sharing with all these great people
It just seems that way because people like spiking myself
We've been ride or die with our squad and you've seen us right there in all the down years
So you say oh it must be part of the jinx. No, no, we're the ones right there hearing it.
That's why we shuffle with them, we grow up,
we bring them, and great things gonna happen.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, listen, listen, Mike.
But it's because we're so committed.
You think that, I understand, I understand what you're saying.
Thanks for sharing with people how committed we've been.
This is what I will say.
I'm gonna say Spike is worse because the thing about it,
it's a two part scenario for you, Mike.
The part of me actually seeing the Dallas,
I've been alive long enough to see the Dallas Cowboys
win a championship, a couple, a few championships actually.
I've never been alive to see the Knicks win a championship.
But you like Michael Jordan, once you off the field,
it's no good no more, bro.
You not doing good as a fan.
Player, top of the top boy.
Fan, dub it bro.
It's not working.
But, but, but, but, but, but, but.
The reason they come back,
cause they remember the last time
they had such a great meal as a Dallas Cowboy,
it was at these hands.
That's what I'm saying?
It was at, so they come back to listen,
and they hope to see someone else
present these kind of hands.
You see what I'm saying?
That's all I'm saying.
All right, you got it.
That's it.
Yeah.
But he's not a jinx, he's a good luck charm.
And we can, we can-
Good luck charm!
He's a good luck charm for our show.
I don't know about, about not knowing. In the last Miami game, like people were scared at first, but when he was on the sideline
people were tweeting like, tell Mike to get off the field and then we won.
I'm like, it's giving good luck charm.
Mike almost cost y'all that game.
Mike almost cost y'all that season having Mike out there.
The people in the Hall of Fame room. They were saying telling
My hand because you know I get the hair she said they said go get him and bring her back to the sweet
She said no
We gotta leave him there
We're mounting the comback leave him in the position and you left me in the right place. You see what I'm saying
right place you see what I'm saying because how can I take you where I did not go how can I tell you
you got you got a bit Oh, my God. You got to be sensational.
Oh, no. OK, so let's discuss tonight's game.
The Bucks will play the Falcons.
They both came off a strong win last week.
Mike, who do you think has it this time, the Bucs or the Falcons?
Let me tell you how we get caught up on,
and on how we want to always be totally right.
And in the end, is where you win with being totally right.
I made a statement when Falcons got Kirk Cousins that,
oh, they're winning the South right now.
I'm taking the Kirk Cousins Atlanta Fouls who are winning South.
I said they remind me of my favorite candy
because they got a quarterback now
and they got the young Duke and the students later.
So what they did, they make what they got the talent
on the outside.
They said, we want to have success now and later.
Now the now success is part of the growth that's going to be the base for the later
success.
So, so, so it's where are they now?
Everybody thinks Tampa will win this game.
This reminds me of a young Dallas team going up against Philadelphia with a great defensive
team and you got to overcome them.
It is either this one or the next one one I still got Atlanta winning this division. I'll pick them to win this game
But I guarantee you they'll win the second game and I guarantee you they gonna win the South and I will be right
Ultimately in the end because that's when you really determine to win. I'm still taking a left this time around
That's when you really determine to win. I'm still taking that left this time around.
Mike, you said all of that to say the wrong answer, Mike.
Come on, Mike.
You're supposed to be the expert, Mike.
Tampa's playing good, Tampa's playing good.
That's what I was about to say right now.
I think Tampa is playing way too good
for them to beat Tampa,
and especially Baker Mayfield is looking like, huh?
To beat Atlanta.
Yeah, I think they're playing way too good
for the Falcons to win.
Bucks is definitely gonna win this.
I think it'll be a high scoring game
and Baker Mayfield is just playing too good
of a football right now.
He's confident and he's also quiet. I remember Keller was saying as long as he stay quiet he'll
play well but right now he's quiet and confident. And when somebody got that
confidence and they quiet about it they're super dangerous. And right now he
got his team rallying around him. It seemed like they're playing football
they're having fun and I don't see Atlanta beating them. And I know I got to fly through the Atlanta airport.
So don't stop me about this. Don't try to switch my flights because of it. I'm just
saying what I believe. The Falcons will not win this.
They're riding in a two with them demons, huh? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Kenneth Copeland said, not me. Man, this is, listen, outside of the Kansas City Chiefs,
nothing has gone as I expected this fucking season,
to be totally honest with you.
Look, we had not expected the commander
to be winning the division.
We did not expect the Minnesota Vikings
to be winning the division.
I'm not gonna say yes or no.
I did have Tampa Bay as my sleeper team,
but for them to be winning the division right now,
it's crazy Seattle Seahawks are winning their division.
Texas, probably.
And Pittsburgh Steelers, no.
We didn't think that they would be winning
the division right now.
Buffalo Bills, I'm not gonna say that.
It was even them and Miami for me.
This is a hard call for me, pause.
Because I actually like,
I like Tampa Bay as a team,
but I'm a Kirk Cousins fan.
Because niggas tried to franchise this tag,
this nigga forever.
And he fucking beat the system on the franchise tag.
Yo, they franchise this nigga, franchise this nigga.
He got richer and richer and richer.
And then he be doing his little dance when he went.
Kurt got the jewelry on, he be on the jet doing the.
I like that.
That's what made him cool right there.
That right there, baby.
When cool camp, I said the same thing were at cool camp, I said the same thing
on the show camp.
I said the same thing.
Because Kirk, remember, first, we didn't really like Kirk
because Kirk was taking an RG3 job in Washington.
Remember RG3 came in at first.
Yeah, hey, man, we got us a quarterback doing it.
And he kind of got hurt.
And Kirk was always battling. But Kurt played the game.
Kurt said, oh, okay, ain't gonna be scared
of that word, franchise tag.
I was running around like a boogie man.
He said, I'ma just don't do it.
You know?
Damn, he's told something.
Right, and Minnesota putting all that jewelry on him.
He's coming out. He's like, he's looking good. Acting like a brother. And right, and Minnesota putting all that jewelry on him.
He's coming out.
He was looking good.
Acting like a brother.
Acting like thoughts.
All of a sudden now, he's like, man, Kurt pretty cool.
Kurt pretty cool.
Yo, when Kurt put that jewelry on, he hit the.
Right.
I said, y'all fuck with Kurt, B.
I fuck with Kurt.
I like that I said the same thing.
Right. The same thing. Right.
I said the same thing.
And not only that, right?
And back to your point about RG3,
like you say, he went through a hard time.
And I remember, and see, I'd look at things,
of course I've got to analyze his football plan.
I like what he did.
Like that's why I bought the franchise tag.
Like you said, the boogie man,
everybody hates the franchise tag.
He embraced it, because he seen the salary going up.
And he kept getting richer and richer for quarterbacks.
But I also liked when he was getting discrepancy
because of the RGT thing and he had a great game.
He came off the field, he said, do you like that?
Oh shit, they kept playing it all day the next few days.
Do you like that, Kirk?
And what did he do? He copywrote it and made few days. Do you like that, Kirk Cousin? And what'd he do?
He copywrote it and made money off, do you like that?
So he owns the phrase, do you like that?
I like smart niggas like that.
I'm rooting for Kirk.
That was a killer move.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's why I fuck with Kirk Cousin.
I want Atlanta to win, but I'm going with Tampa Bay.
I just want to get back.
Right, right, right, right.
Right, right.
I did an interview with him when all that was going down
and he was just dude.
He had just got out of his grandma's van.
This joker been making all this money.
And he was driving his grandma's van.
The only reason he got rid of it
is because somebody ran into it and wrecked it.
Why?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, niggas say, we gonna play this under the radar.
We ain't getting us money,
but I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan.
Absolutely, but I'm gonna go with Tampa Bay.
Okay, and then Mike, on Sunday, the Cowboys will play the Steelers.
There is a possibility Micah Parsons may not play this game
due to a high ankle sprain.
What do you expect to happen on this game and who do you think will win?
I'm so scared here, guys.
I'm worried. I told you I'm worried about these next few games.
I really am.
That's why I thought the Devonte Adams possibility was just manning from heaven, just a gift
from God.
You know what I mean?
I was like, throw it down.
Y'all go have fun.
Like you said, yo, Mike, Mike, the pauses get hurt, give us Devonte Adams.
Yeah.
Who thinks like that, Mike?
They think even on the same side of the ball, boys.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Mike is wild, man.
Go ahead, Mike.
The word now, the only thing that I got here is,
even though I know I watched Justin Fields
mount the comeback and do pretty good.
I'm still holding on that I'm taking that Prescott over Justin Fields.
I don't take Dallas defense over Pittsburgh's defense, but I'm taking the quarterback over Justin Fields.
They are still in shambles at the quarterback position.
That's the one thing that gives Dallas the opportunity.
No, no, Mike, I'm going to disagree with you again.
I think the Steelers will put too much pressure defense wise on,
on Prescott.
And I also think that the Steelers are going to be aggressive and they're going
to run the ball.
And, and we know that Dallas can't stop the run.
We know they can't stop the run.
And then when you add in that they don't have Parsons,
they're not going to have Cook and they're not going to have the Marcus.
I don't see what leg you're standing on, Mike, for real.
Right. I understand. Certainly not the run. Decent real. Right. I understand.
Certainly not the run.
Decently.
Yeah.
And you know, not the leg.
I just told you, I'm standing on that crest.
I'm gone.
That's what I just told you.
I'm off the legs.
We'll see, Mike, I'm bringing you a stillers hat, you know?
So from now on, when they beat the Cowboys,
do you wanna wear the stillers hat?
You wanna go on record right now
that if they win you'll wear the stillers hat
or how we're looking on this?
You got on mustard already.
Halfway there.
You're halfway there, all you need is black.
This is a great rivalry.
This is a great rivalry here
when you talk Dallas and Pittsburgh.
So you know, I got something with this.
My last reign has the sting of the name of the Pittsburgh Steelers right there, if you
know what I mean.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So yeah, we can make that bet.
You wear that cowboy hat, I wear that steel hat.
It's flash for me to do it, but we can make that bet.
Okay.
I wear it to make that bet.
All right.
Make that bet.
Hey, I already bought that for you, Mike.
I wanted you to know.
It matches your shirt.
Let me ask, do you guys have Jacksonville or Chicago,
or the Carolina Panthers
on y'all guys' schedule this season?
Ooh, the Cowboys?
Yeah, like either Jacksonville,
Chicago Bears or Carolina Panthers, no?
Then I don't pick y'all.
The Panthers, yeah.
Well then that's the only game I'm gonna pick for y'all.
This is, let me know when y'all play the Panthers.
And I'll pick you guys outside of that.
You're losing every weekend.
But it's time for me to make my picks.
No, y'all not gonna win, man.
Absolutely not.
Ain't they playing Pittsburgh?
Yeah.
Nah, niggas.
No, they're not winning.
The terrible towels is out, nigga.
What the fuck is you talking about?
Y'all are not gonna win in Pittsburgh.
Absolutely not, no.
I ain't gonna get in that detail because Mase got.
No.
Let me tell y'all, sir, that is a different scene
playing in Pittsburgh.
Oh my God, man.
When I first played that dude,
it's like when you go in the stadium,
everybody has that towel wave.
And it's almost, if you ain't waving that towel, they gonna kick you out of the stadium, everybody has that tower wave. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And it's almost, if you ain't waving that tower,
they gonna kick you out of the stadium,
your whole family out of the stadium.
It's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
I be like, come on, man, that shit ain't gonna save nobody.
I'm about to bust your ass.
I'm gonna go get you.
You know what I'm saying?
You're gonna bust your ass.
I was a nigga like that too when I played my,
I like to play away games more than home games
because you can shut people up.
I used to love shutting the other school up.
Like shut up.
I don't know about that.
I'm gonna give you all this, the best one.
I'm gonna give you the best story I got
with that kind of stuff.
And I can say this is where they got me back.
I don't know if I ever told you.
Oh my God, them jokers got me good.
Those dudes got me good. I don't know if I ever told you. Oh my God, them jokers got me good. Them jokers got me good.
This is when I got suspended.
I had all that problem in hotel and everything.
And I was coming back off all my suspensions.
Mike, Mike, Mike, not to cut you off.
Which time?
What?
Okay, oh, God damn.
I only got that unwanted vacation once.
You understand what I'm saying?
I only got it one time.
Well, let me tell you what these jokers did.
I had this little thing I did before every game
where I go down the sideline,
I wanna touch every little marker on the field.
That means I'm gonna get 100 yards.
And my head, if I touch every marker, I'm gonna get a hundred yards and my ear touch
every mark I'm gonna get a hundred yards so as I'm going down to the sidelines
everybody knew about it these kids I had gone through a lot of stuff that week
with everything and people saying I had done something I didn't do it and it was
all over the news so these kids at the end of the field and a woman they came together they had a certain always
said Michael Irvin role model role model so nice of them man to say that you know
I mean and I did this right here too like as soon as I did that the other two kids got in it said Michael Urban
put role model not role model put role Irvin, role model. I said, oh, he talking about him.
They lied to you.
They lied to you, man.
Yeah, that was the best way they did it.
OK.
So we got two more games that we're going to talk about.
So the Ravens will play the Bengals.
Ahead of the game, Joe Burrow said,
I have to be aggressive out the gate.
I'm going to have to be damn near perfect.
So Mike, do you think that'll work this game? Who do you think has it?
This is more than an interesting game too now because here I know
Problem beating a Patrick Mahone because you got to play great lady and know he asked a lot dynamic plays
He does some kind of bad things sometimes just I don't know what he thinks about sometimes last week you killing Buffalo this game go slide but you joke trying to make
something happen and you fumble that ball so you make that mistake with
Patrick Mahomes you make that mistake with with with the killer over there in
Cincinnati you lose that game Joe Burrows a killer he's killer. So now they're the best team, Baltimore Ravens.
And I'll take the Baltimore Ravens, but Lamar Jackson has to be sharp and they got to get this
thing out front. It can't be a close game or they will lose. Yeah, I think the Ravens run the ball
and they run the ball without any problem against the Bengals.
I think Burrow would definitely try to connect with Chase.
That's gonna be a good thing for him to do.
But I just don't see them beating the Bengals.
I mean beating the Ravens right now.
I like the Ravens.
This is a really, really interesting game.
Probably the best game.
Probably the best game of the weekend
because there's also an end division battle.
And Ravens looked like they finally
hit all cylinders last week.
They looked like, okay, this is the Ravens
that we were expecting to come in.
But also Cincinnati won their first game last week
and Devonte Adams looked like,
apart from Devonte Adams, pardon me,
Jamar Chase is looking like, he like,
okay, I'm over it, I'm not getting my money,
let me do what the fuck I gotta do.
He's smiling in the locker room, he's happy they won a game.
I would like to go with the Bengals,
because you know I'm a Joe Burrow fan,
but Ravens look really good,
not just last week, the week before,
even though they let Dallas come back
and get 19 points in the fourth,
Derrick Henry, I think figured it out
with this offensive line.
He also figured it out with Action Jackson
and Harbaugh figured out how to use both of them
at the same time.
And last week, they just looked sensational.
I'm gonna go with the Ravens.
My heart is with Joe Burrow and the crew.
But like Mike said, Joe Burrow is a killer.
And he's healthy.
He's an assassin.
He's healthy.
If he has a happy receiver,
and his offensive line fucking stay him on point.
You know, that's been Joe Burrow,
even the year that he went to the Super Bowl,
was sacked the most that particular year.
Like this offensive line,
gotta make sure this nigga don't get hurt.
Help the nigga out, y'all.
What the fuck?
But I gotta go with the Ravens.
They looked too good last year.
I mean, pardon me, last week.
Right, and then after a pretty bad loss to the Ravens,
the Bills will play this, the
Texans, Stefan Diggs will be facing his former team. So this is going to be a very interesting
matchup. Mike, how do you expect this game to go?
Now, you know, last time you played this formal team, the Texans got him 12 targets, he had
like 90 yards and I think they'll, they'll certainly't I think I know they'll certainly make sure they have a concerted effort to get him to football
and early they're going to get him to football because remember you know he's
like me you give me some passes early then all of my anger and emotions works
with you works for you if you wait too late my angry and emotions works with you, works for you.
If you wait too late, my anger and emotions gonna work at you.
You know what I'm saying?
So you want to get him to balls early because he's going up in his own team so you can get
that emotion working for you.
And I do got the Texans winning this ball game.
I think the Texans here, I struggled with Rusty last week.
I think they take off here.
I really, I really, really do believe
that the Texans will win this.
I like the Texans in this game,
especially because this is Diggs' first time
facing against Josh Allen.
I even got Josh being picked off in this game because,
you know, sometime when you go to a new team,
you start sharing offense and different things like that.
And I think it leads to a pick, definitely a pick.
And Texans win this in a very high scoring game.
I think it'll be a high scoring game,
but I like the Texans over the Bills.
I'm gonna go with the Bills.
I think they're gonna try and do too much stuff on Diggs.
Think about it, man.
Listen, man, and I love us.
I love us, us.
And when I say us, I love black.
Black receiver, black quarterback quarterback and a black coach
like we gonna kill these niggas trying to valet you
like that nigga.
Fuck they trying to get rid of you
like you ain't one of them niggas.
And then he's gonna be over emotional,
trying to overdo it.
And that's just how niggas is,
cause they emotional.
And I think that Josh Allen doesn't miss the farm digs at all.
I don't think he misses them.
I actually think that he's happy he's not there.
But Mase made a good point.
You know, they he might share information.
But I am going to go with the Buffalo Bills because I think emotions
will be running too high and I don't think it's going to work in their favor.
Good points. OK, well, that is all the time that we have for today.
Mike, it was a pleasure to have you on the show.
Mike, thank you again for being here, man.
We can't wait.
Yeah.
See you next week. Always, man, always.
Now, come on now, but make sure you tell me,
can I'm on them dates now?
Send them to me, because we want to do that.
Yeah, nah, I'm gonna call you.
We want to get there the night before
so we can get out the night before. Yeah, yeah, as we should. As we should. Yeah, nah, I'm gonna call you. We're gonna get there the night before so we can get out the night before.
Yeah, as we should.
As we should.
As we should.
I'm gonna call you.
That's what we're gonna do.
All right, make sure you know we're gonna do that.
All right, get ready for your Steelers hat.
Get invited now.
Get ready for your Steelers hat, Mike.
You better get ready.
You better get ready to wear that blue and silver.
And I want your clothes matching the hat.
What I'm saying.
I want you to tie that thing together.
All right, guys.
All right, Mike.
Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to the outcome.
But thank you guys all for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.