IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN GIVING OUT SEPTEMBER MVP'S TO THE COWBOYS & WE TALK SANDERS VS. REX RYAN!

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

On this episode, Michael Irvin is back & OF COURSE he’s wildin’ out saying Dak Prescott is an MVP candidate right now. Then, we talk about who is going to win the Thursday Night Football game between NFC West division rivals the LA Rams vs. The San Francisco 49ers. Next, Robert Saleh & Liam Cohen get into a beef after the game, is that out of pocket for NFL Coaches. Lastly, Shedeur Sanders is officially the 3rd QB on the depth chart like Killa said he would be but we try to dive deeper on this convo about Shedeur Sanders Intro (0:00) Michael Irvin Is Wildin’ (4:00) Rams vs. 49ers (10:00) Coaches Beefing’ (22:30) Shedeur Sanders (35:00) Rex Ryan's Comments Towards Shedeur (48:30) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today, we are joining with our analyst, Michael Irvin. Mike, how you feeling? Mike, you're back. I'm back. I'm good. Everything's good. I'm doing well over here, Stan. How are you guys on that side of town? We're doing great, man.

I wanted to say something before we start the show. So, Mike, you know, after we film, I get a little busy and I get caught up. And I haven't had a chance to watch to watch my good friend Stephen A. Smith show in about a month or so. Shout to Stephen A. Smith, that's my bro. And I didn't have no idea that after you do our shows

on Monday that you do first take on Mondays as well. And what I will say is this. Your consistency of craziness is official. Because you leave this show with the nonsense and then you go right to his show with the same nonsense and you're not even changing up. I say, you say, release your nonsense. says at least your delusionalness is consistent from every show that you do.

You left here and said Dak Prescott was the MVP. And then you went there and said he's the MVP. I said, this thing is not faking. This is, he, he, he faking, bro. This is a nigga crazy. Just looking crazy. And people and other people now, at least I hear other people, are starting to pick that up.

They are talking about how well, Dak is. plan back is holding this thing together i know there's only four game and i know we're still only you still only have one victory and two losses but that's still that's still he's not the issue he's not the problem we got to tighten other things up nobody said he's the problem we said you can't win the MVP with this losing record that's what we say it's only four weeks in It's only four weeks in, and it's a loser, right? But right now, right now. But it doesn't mean if he keeps playing like that.

If he has CD Lamb back, that's what we're projecting. The season ain't over in four weeks. But I'm just saying, if you give me a CEP, MVP, you've got to put back in there for September MVP. Now we're giving out the MVP in September, Mike. It's really what we're going to moving up the goal post is great. First with, you know, all of this on third week, now is September MVP. Give me a September. I don't know.

You might have top stat with this. Normally the YNs come up with stats like this. Like we had a two-week anniversary. I said, what's a two-week anniversary? We've been dating for two weeks. Yeah, man. She won a gift off of that, Mike. September MVP is wild.

MVP is wild. I'm not to agree with you murder on that. September MVP. Them cowboy niggas, the thing about it, murder, they're going to find a way to have a victory. It don't matter what kind of victory is. They're going to figure a way out, man. I figured it out.

That's how they keep it America's team. They find a victory every year. There you go. But, Mike, I'm not an answer take because he also is right. The Cowboys, and you guys have gave the Cowboys their credit too, hype right now. So I know you're feeling good.

They get a lot of hype by New Year. No, but like this one is, it seems a little different. But September MVP is crazy, I will say. But one and two with a draw with a tie is crazy. You got to score tied now. I know they doubled up, you know, all over these two and one. I'm with you. You with me. We can get them now.

Well, I got you just stay with me. Don't let them convince all confusion. We'll see what happens week eight to 10 and see you. if that still stands. Okay. And all that, Washington, you see how other teams are fought. Washington is two and two. So Dallas is still in.

That's all I'm going to say. Yeah, well, listen, man, the thing about that, I understand you're going to say you keep using CD Lamb, CD Lamb, CD Lamb, CD Lamb, CD Lamb. CD Lamb, CD Lamb. Look, Jaylon, Jaylon Daniels ain't playing either. So, right. Yeah, so, and they got a better record than you.

Without, without the quarterback. Which is more important to me than a while receiving no disrespect to aircraft, but you need a decent... No doubt. No doubt. No doubt he is more important. More, no doubt. Now, now, now, just like you said over there on Washington, bring it on back with me over here on Dallas, because you just said, the quarterback is more important. And that's why we should have a chance to do some winning. That you just thought, thank you. From your mouth, you speak this. Thank you. And the reason I said that is because that they have a better record. So imagine when their starting quarterback comes back. They should have an even better, better record. And you have to deal with that. So what I'm saying is this.

If you have to think about this, your quarterback, and I gave DACA's props. Super, I think he's having a sensational season. But if he's playing at the top tier level, let's just say one to 100, Dax's playing in 94%. And you're one in two and one, And what else can he do?

Wait for C.D. Lamb to come back. Why does C.D. Lamb come back? Mike. You know, the only disappointment I have this season for the Dallas Cowboys right now, of course, you have the two losses in the tie. But the only disappointment I have is to slip up in Chicago.

If they win Chicago, if they beat Chicago and they have exactly where they are right now, what are we talking about? You see what I'm saying? see that's a week old so it's not like it's four weeks a bad football you really got one week in here that i'm saying they had to clean up or they should clean up everything else i would be okay with if i if that damn clark manager do just slow his hand down to the button we got that win if cd doesn't do what he you know if he does what he does and didn't have one or two drops we got

that so i'm just saying hey we get on with the show You're going to do it on with the show, but I got to make one last, I got a point after camp. I got one last point, murder, man. Listen, this is what I'm saying. Everybody, if, if, if, if I seen Drew Brees saying that the other day on, on, on, shout to, like I said, hey, I got to lose this, or if this would have happened, or one little turnover, or if this would have happened. I had two questions for you, Mike, two questions before I left it out of go.

The first question is this. How many minutes are in the football game? What do you mean for 60 minutes? You have to win 60 minutes, Mike. It doesn't matter about a feeling. It doesn't matter what you did in the first quarter, the second quarter, the third quarter, the middle of the fourth quarter. It is a 69, it is a 69, a 60 minute game.

Mike, you're a big boxing fan such as myself. If you're having a boxing match, right, me and you, we're having a boxing match. A real box, man. We're boxes. I'm just using a fake story. We're boxes. On the point system, I'm killing you for 11 rounds. I'm shutting you out 11 rounds of this championship fight.

And you throw a hate maker in the trophy, knocking you out. Who wins the fight, Mike? Oh, yeah. I win the fight. There you go. You was losing all fight. It only took one punch for you to win the fight. Stop telling me what comes.

could have happened and what should have happened, and this, that, it did, and this could have happened. You lost, you lost, bro. Because that's the same thing, boxing. I mean, I was kicking his ass for 11 rounds. You see how I had him. Nigger, I think he was about to go. No, I got knocked out.

I didn't win. That's the end of it. Murder, what do you have to add on to this? Yeah, and I want to know how you feel about DAC almost averaging a turnover game, an interception of game. That ain't nothing new murder. That's what he usually do.

I know, but he said he's not concerned about that. You get to the end of the year and he got 17 picks. What's up with that, Mike? But what we're talking about now is what we saw last week, which developing those young receivers. A lot of those picks that you have seen, those are bounce off hands. I've seen about bounce off picking's hands,

and they picked it off. It's not always that fault when you look into the interception. now he's the only one that gets it on the stack sheet i and t but it's not always his fault and what you saw last week was the receivers played better and as they rise like i told you guys those things will stop happening well they go on his record mike just like the yards after the carry you got to take the good with the bad pause even when it's not his fault yeah go to that's right okay mike we're going to give you a break we're going to again to Thursday night football tonight's game. The 49ers will play the Rams. Mike, who do you

think wins this game tonight? Well, the Rams win this game tonight and the Rams have a very, very good football team. You think about it. If the Rams, they had an opportunity to beat the Eagles this year, they had an opportunity to beat the Eagles in the snow last year. And right now, the way Matthew Stafford is playing with Pooka and Atkins. At well, and why am I drawing a blank on your boy from Green Bay that went to the Raiders? Devonte Adams, the way they're playing, throwing the ball all over the field. It's been insane and incredible. Now, let's flip to San Fran's side.

San Fran has lost two powerhouses, one on offense and one on defense. And they looked like nothing that they used to look like on defense. The defense is still playing well. But last week, they did not even touch travel arms. Nothing whatsoever. And that's surprising for a Rams, for a 49ers defense. I mean, they didn't even touch the quarterback. So right now, and you don't have Debo Samuel on offense anymore,

And you don't got Nick Bosa on defense. Krista McCaffrey is what they're trying to turn into a Debo Samuel. He's running the ball and he skis. That's the most targets in with the 49ers. And Christian McCaffrey, he's right. He's nice, but he's no Debo Samuel. And I'm not talking my physical gifts. I'm talking about the kind of attitude that he brings on the football field.

You don't see San Francisco. Remember, you used to see Debo and Trent walking out with Debo. that boom box music and you knew you got to get you about to have some physical football play that that's not the case anymore with san francisco i'm taking the rams to win this game yeah i'm i'm gonna go with the rams as well i think the rams are looking to extend their winning streak against against um the 49ers and the 49ers is i think they're two and oh and away games and and you got the rams that's two and oh at a home game so i think each one of them is trying to show that they could they could play away and each one is trying to show that

they could win at home. So I think when it comes to this game, this is one of those games that it's not a hard, hard team to play against. So these are them games that count. Like when you playing a hard team, you automatically know I might lose this game. These are not the games that they should be losing, especially to teams that are not that physical really on the front line. So I'm looking forward to the Rams winning this game. even though I would normally go with the 49ers. The Rams should win. I mean, look, let's think about this.

The Rams, first of all, I don't know if you've seen the injury report. You got no Brock Purdy, you got no Ricky Purcell, Joanne Jennings, so you're missing your starting QB, your top three wide receivers, you're starting tight end and you're starting rushing. That's first and foremost. Mack Jones has played good. They beat them two, you know, he won two games for them.

But I don't know. Rams defense looks really, really good, especially their safeties are playing well. I think in order for the 49s to even have the chance, you have to have Christian McCaffrey have the ball, not just necessarily running. He has to have 35 touches and over 200 yards of production for them to even have a chance to win this game. Now, the flip side, if we're going to the Rams, like we're all going to pick the Rams to win, but let's really look at this.

If we're looking at the Rams moving forward in this division game, so this game is very important. I would say this, that to me, the Rams haven't really been tested yet. When you think about the Rams and you're looking at the record, you're like, oh, it looks good. But if you're looking at their record, who they beat, they beat Houston. Houston is looking less than subpar. Then they beat Tennessee. Tennessee may be the first team to go 0 and 17 ever. You lose to the defending champions, the Philadelphia Eagles. Then you only beat the Indianapolis Coast by a touchdown. Now you're going to play an injured 49ers team, and then who do they have next? You get a long weekend and a long break, and then Lamar Jackson may not be playing, and Baltimore's lost their identity. So now

if you beat the 49ers and you beat Baltimore without Lamar Jackson, with a bunch of other injuries that Baltimore have, you're feeling yourself at 5 and 1, maybe 6 and 1, and you're like, yeah, but have you really been tested? And that's going to play, we're going to have to see how that leads off later on when we get into week 12, 13, because your record looks good, but to me you haven't played anybody that's really worth it. 49 is injured. Baltimore is not, it's going to be hobbled, and then you lost to the defending champs. Everybody else, you should have beat. That's a good point.

And I wanted to let you, that's not a good point. Here we go. Here we go, here we go. And I let you get it all day, yeah. First of all, India was playing. playing some great football. And they picked off Indiana Jones that Daniel Jones twice last week. And Indy was playing great ball.

Yeah, yeah, you're right. You guys are right. Matt Jones has been average of 275 yards in his two starts. Won't get it this time. Different defense. Let me tell you what. Let me tell you what.

These teams play the same offense. Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan boys at Washington. They were under six. same offense. So each team comes in understanding each offense. Indiana Jones playing way better than Matt Jones when we talk about the Jones boys. And they shut them down. I think right now Indie will be San Francisco and the Rams beat them. You said they hadn't played anybody. They, you're right. They played the champs. The only team they lost too. And that was on a block

field goal. So no like like, oh, when they come up against competition, they have no shock. Like, every time, every time you bring up somebody losing, oh, it was a block field goal. If it wasn't for the interception, Mike, I asked you this at the beginning of show, how many minutes are in the game? It is 60 minutes in the game. Stop telling me what could or should have happened.

You got to tell the people. You can't. And they're not getting me. He said he got to tell the people it's true. What I lie? He said none of them. We understand there's an outcome, but we are analysts.

And our job is to analyze the whole world. They analyze the whole game in the game playing and project what can happen next year. So next week. So I'm not saying, I'm not saying that, okay, the block field goal, that's a long. That is a loss. That's a loss.

But it was only a block field goal. You said it like, and they lost to the champs. Like, they blew them out. They didn't blow them out. If that one guard fills it up, then it's a different game. Murder. Mike, you should be, they should bring you in on the homecoming week, the way you speak, Mike.

Yo, Mike, I want to know, because you said this, I want to know, hold on, because you, you said a few things. I'm still waiting for what you to say because you said, you told Stad, I didn't make a good point. What point did I make that was not good? I want to hear exactly what I said was not a good point. Well, first of all, Indy is a good team. You said it didn't be, they'd be in there and beating it about it. They hadn't been great in the past with the quarterback situation.

But Indy under Daniel Jones, Michael Pitt, men, those boys have been playing ball. That was a very good win for them against Indy. And I thought they played, they played Philadelphia to the hill. Remember that first half in Philadelphia? That looked like, they look like world beaters. And then, you know, Philly Mounted to come back and won on that block. So the Rams right now look like probably the best best. to go and knock off Philly in the NFC, Ramble in Detroit.

Let me ask you a question. So I did say, I did say that in Indianapolis, but it is Indianapolis. You just said it's only week four. Let me ask you a question. And you can give me honest, honest opinion. Who do you like better? Indianapolis Colts or the Dallas Cowboys right now?

Yeah. Listen, man, forget it. Just forget the whole thing. Mike, that was horrible, Mike. That was horrible, Mike. You're wrong, Mike. You know how the indie is, if I'm saying, that's a tough question. I wouldn't want to see Dallas play indie right now.

You know what I mean? We need what we got coming up. A couple of them softies right? now like the Jets get you some wins out of two weeks so so I don't want to see them play indie right now Indy's playing pretty good football I asked you one question Mike a yes

and no who's better right now Indies actually okay then if you if you say that then I make your point valid that Indy it was a good win for the Rams against a good team if you're going to put them above

the Cowboys then I'll say then I go with your point I'm on this, I'm on this, I'm on a CD was healthy. That'd have been a different thing. Hey, yo, let me ask, let me ask that and make stat, how many times if we are in the last two weeks if CD was healthy, if it would be great.

The over on the higher and lower. Yeah, it ain't every show. It's how many per show? Because we're on four right now. We're about four if CD lambs 10 minutes and 15 minutes into the show. We're about four CD lambs already. We're good.

But Mike, listen, I think what you said was great. But I'm on the 60-minute thing. Every phase of the game counts. Special teams, defense, offense, and I'm not going to downplay somebody's win, whether it was three points or seven points or 25 points. Now, don't get me wrong, I understand that we say they blew them niggas out.

Man, I'm niggas. It's a win. Just like we're saying, Just like I pointed out, that they're going to play a very injured 49ers team. It's a win. If they play a Lamar Jackson list Baltimore team, it's a win. And I'm not saying they're going to win. You know you got to play the game to see what happens.

You never know. That's why it's called any given Sunday, Monday, or Thursday. But the end of the day, a wins, a win. And I understand it's our job to analyze it. But at the end of the day, when that season's over and them records come in, and niggas make it to the playoffs and niggas don't, they're not going to be like, you know, in week three,

if we weren't to block that field goal, you know, we would have been in the playoffs. We just needed two more minutes. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, Mike. Where's it? Great question.

Because you kind of got them there. Okay, so moving along, some coaches got into a little bit of an argument. So 49ers defensive coordinator, Robert Salome, made comments stating that the Jaguars are really good at legally stealing defensive signs. He said, quote, they've got illegally a really advanced signal stealing type system

where they always find a way to put themselves in an advantageous situation from opponents. Post game, Liam Cohn, the Jaguars head coach went up to Sala and repeatedly said, keep my name out your mouth. Sala then responded, I will fuck your world up. You don't want to fuck with me. I will fucking end your life, which I never heard anybody say. Then after he clarified and said he was genuinely trying to give a compliment. but admits he probably used the wrong choice of words.

Mike, did you see that little altercation? And then did you interpret what Salas said as a compliment? No, it was oxymorani in all ways. Oh, shit, murder. Oxymoronic. Yeah. Oxymoronic, you know. Mike, you didn't went back.

You know, Nick, when we do these shows, start putting the shit at the bottom of the screen when he anomaly. Put the shit at the bottom of speed like we learn it. You're gonna turn this shit educational. Tantamount. Tantamount. Yeah.

Oxi-maronic. Guy, Mike. To say anything is legal and stealing. Stealing is illegal and stealing. Stealing is illegal. You can't say legal and stealing. So that's oxymoronic. You can't use.

Those words don't mean the same thing. So you were slicking in some slip lip. slip-lipped. And that's what Liam said. I want a bushy lip. You keep slipping in that slip-lip. But now, I'm surprised that I haven't heard about a fine for Sala threatening. It's one thing to talk about signs still. There's another thing to talk about in your life on a football field coach to coach. I think the NFL should step in and say something or do something about that. Yeah, they definitely wouldn't let no black guys say that. And Mike, I would love to see you.

That's what everybody was thinking. Yeah. If we said that, if I said that, you said it. Dion said it. Anybody that's of that stature that plays in the National Football League would have said that it would be up for the commissioner to have a meeting with him. So I want to see the same thing happen here. And also, Mike, I think you and TI need to have a debate.

I'm willing to flip my money up, you know, to see who knows the most. big words out of you and T.I. Both of you are very animated. Shout out to T.I. We got to have T.I. and you have a debate on who knows the most words. Who you think knows the most words, Killer? Well, T.R. is known for this. Mike is shocking me. We might, we don't know what Mike got in his bag, man. I have no idea. I don't know who will win because we've heard T.I have a very extensive vocabulary level, but it isn't to me the way Mike

is presenting these words, it isn't like he's just randomly using him. It sounds like he's very fluid in the words. I think he's actually going home and bringing out words. Somebody's working with Mike because he plays wide receivers, so he could be very smart, but somebody's working with him, giving him these words, killer, and he's coming on here to show off his intellect. And I don't like it.

Well, my thing is, Mike, did you graduate? Did you graduate from the University of Miami? from the University of Miami? I don't know. You didn't learn all these words at the U of M. Well, status from there, that's what status is very, very, you know what I'm saying? Not only did I graduate, yeah,

from the University of Miami. I graduated after my junior season into the NFL. You had the right. So that's why I control my draft. When Green Bay called with a seventh pick, I say, no way, Green Bay, because if you don't, If you draft me, you would lose it.

I can go back to school and pick up a summer class and then apply for another draft. So yes, I graduated. My degree is in BMO, business management and organization. What we're doing right now, communicating. Communication. Talk that talk, Mike. I don't know you might.

Put Kim in his place. No, I think he need to put you in your place. I was just trying. You asked me who I had my money on. I had to get a background check on the nigger. Now my money might go on my... Yeah. You put you in your place.

Mike, wait up. I was getting a background check. You graduated as a junior, but what was your GPA? Good enough to get drafted? Yeah. Yeah, so it's a stack clocking them. Yeah, because that was good. Because I get it.

I'm here, I understand, Mike. We've been here the whole episode. I get it. Yeah, it's a Florida thing. It's a Florida thing. Well, listen, it's a youth thing. It's a youth thing. He's trying to, Dr. Beth is trying to include himself into the console.

Thank you. Well, as far as this is concerned, y'all realize what Sal is coming from. And I'm not supporting what he said, and I agree with both of you guys take 100%. But he's at the point where, like, listen, man, man. I was a head coach last year, man. Niggas done kick me out over this, Aaron Rogers,

nigga. I was leaving my own team. We was a few games away from the playoffs. Stop playing with me. We don't know what kind of anger chip this nigga got on his shoulder. Because he was, like, he was doing decent with the judge. They were building something on defense. And they were just thinking that they could bring Aaron Rogers in to carry the offense because he's a defense-minded coach. And that shit just went under the rug. And now, don't get me wrong, this happens all the time.

You lose your head coach job and you take another job to stay visible and stay relevant. And not only that, to pick up a check. But we don't know where this nigga brain at. That sounds like a nigga that's on the edge. Pause. Yeah.

And I wouldn't sound like, you should leave that nigga to fucking alone. Sam, I tried to give you a compliment. Yeah, like leave that nigga alone. Now, back to this, I have a question for you, Mike. because, you know, for the average, I wouldn't call myself average friend. I'm a little more than average. I do my homework and my due diligence

and my knowledge to know certain things. But when Spygate came out, that was new for me with Bill Belichick. And I was like, yo, Bill got niggins in the stand stealing signs, but in practice? Like, what the fuck? And then it was deflate gate. And I'm like, oh, these niggas doing

whatever the fuck they got to do to win. But back to SpyGate, how often the signs stealing or things like this happened in the NFL, Mike? Because it was some shit and not to cut you off, it was some shit going on in Michigan

with Harbaugh and he's talking about stealing signs and that's why Sawdball is like, I'm going to NFL, you ain't going to have me under investigation and all this dumb shit. How often does this happen that you're aware of it? How long has it been going on?

Forever. Okay. Forever. And it happens. Every place. of every game every play when we check when we check to an offensive play you can hear ierdb's they have some signs sky sky sky most places that means cover three i know you know what i mean or if i see them pointing that's cover three i'm like i'm getting this ball i'm about to get

this ball you we all do it and you got signs coming in from the sideline this is why this is why this is why you see some teams put up like even the teams that used to play plays on the car you see they have three people standing snoop uh gorilla on this card and something else on this car you don't know which one is the real play that it's been going on forever everybody does it we used to have practice and and coach johnson be looking all around to see if anybody watching and making sure nobody can watch practice because people would try to get somebody if there's apartment complex that can watch the practice field. They'll go pay somebody to go in the apartment complex

and try to steal some stuff. This is the reality of life, man. Everybody's trying to get an edge, just like you're talking about. You don't think Coach Salon wants to add? He don't want to be back to taking orders from somebody when he was giving orders. He should have stole better sign. He should have been a best.

That's a good point. That's a great point. On the other end, looking at the Jaguars head coach, do you guys think Liam's response was valid, Mike? I do. I do, you know, Liam got that brotherly thing on. You know, like, hey, man, you're going to call me a thief, you know, me, all of that stuff.

I don't have any problem with what Liam said. He just can keep my name out your mouth, keep my name out your mouth. That that's regular. I'm mad, I don't like what you. you said. But when you get to that next stage, what? I will end you. That's a whole another level. That's a whole other level. Yeah, I think I think actually I would have like to see him use a different vocabulary being that, you know, he is one of us. I would

like to see him speak a little bit better because I know at the end of the day that it's gonna, it's gonna have a different effect because it came from him. Um, y'all guys take was good. I didn't really cave away what he said. I was more pay attention to Salah, But I do want to give Mike something to add to his degree and his H-CMO and BCU and everything, all the letters you just name and also for your vocabulary and also your knowledge. It is a good time to steal.

And that's when you play basketball. Just add that to you. When you play basketball, stealing is absolutely good. So add that to your collection so you have it. As you said, everything you can't use the word good still and nothing. Basketball is okay. That is true. Okay.

Yeah, and baseball is still in bases, Mike. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I can take that. So we're going to go to break. We got to talk about the Browns. They got a lot going on. Don't go anywhere. She called this thing about toxic

Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, baby She's tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Oh, oh dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about her want to be free

Why am I going to be free? Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Tonight, the 49ers will play the Rams. Underdog has Matthew Stafford at 236 and a half passing yards. You have them higher, lower mace. That's a good one. I'm going higher.

Yeah, I'm more higher as well He's averaging more than that Okay, Kyron Williams is at nine and a half receiving yards Do you have him higher lower cam? Yeah, higher Hey and Christian McCaffrey Is at 63 and a half rushing yards

Do you have him higher, lower mace? Um, higher, yeah Better be higher if they got any chance Only thing about this whole McCaffrey shit is with all these other injuries going on He's always fucking hurt Even when he's in North Carolina he's hurt So you don't want to put too much of a load on him pause tonight.

And then by week fucking 11, he's ran down. I'm a big Christian McCaffrey fan because he could catch the ball as well, you know. I'm going to go high if they have a chance to win. But I don't think this is going to be good moving forward if niggas don't hurry up and get back. Okay. Make sure you out on the underdog app

and you can make your picks too. So, Cam, you actually called this one. And we know that Dylan Gabriel will be the starter, but instead of Shador being QB2, he will remain as QB3 after Joe Flacco. So reporters asked Shador, basically his thoughts on that. And instead, he mimed his answers, didn't give a response. He didn't use words. So Mike, are you shocked by the team's decision to keep him at QB3?

And then are you shocked by Shador's response by not responding? I am shocked at the team. decision to keep him number three because what are you saying so in the next three games of dylan gabriel doesn't do well you're going back to the 100-year-old joe flacco who didn't do well the first time you see what i mean so now what what are you how much sense does that make and and it does lend to wait a minute wait a little you mean to tell me There's got to be something going on. You are saying he's not good enough to play right now.

You know, I'm talking about Joe Flacco and you're putting him on the bench because all the turnovers and everything. And then you go to the rookie. As I said, right now, what Cleveland should be doing is finding out who they got that quarterback because they got all of those draft picks for next year that they got to figure out what to do with. Do we need to go back in this draft and find some more quarterbacks? And you can't find that answer out by leaving a kid on the bench.

You just can't find it out. You should open this thing up. I would let Dylan Gabriel start this game. I'll tell Shador, he's starting next game. I don't have anything else to do with Joe Flacco because we're not going anywhere. Yeah, I really believe that. Wait, let me get back. And I want us to have a discussion about that second one after we do this,

because that second discussion is a discussion about how he answer it. and all the board that you hear about those answers. You know what I mean? When you talk about Shador, which is insane. That's why I didn't say anything about it, because that's a full discussion by itself. Because he's in a, it seems like, okay, and I read some of the comments.

It blew my mind, blew my mind, man. The kid is having fun. He's laughing, you know. He wasn't being nasty. He was not being, you know, disrespectful. He's understanding. The less he says probably the best. now now now so he had fun with if he had told that person um get out of i don't talk to you

we're that they would have been on him for that i got in those comments people saying i see this what everybody's talking about why don't you just be matured and say hey you know what i'm just going to support the teammates or what why can't what when he said whatever he says you find something wrong with it how many third string quarterbacks on any other team do they even put a microphone in front of and the only reason they're putting that microphone in front of him is because they know he can help them get some clicks and some interests and we'll be talking about it on all of these shows it blows my mind the response and the comments that we get when it comes to this kid yeah i want to speak to jimmy jimmy and d haslam the owners of the cleveland

Browns, y'all got to cut it out. Whatever is going on there is becoming too obvious that you're trying to break the kid here because realistically, he should be in the game already. I know you're trying to try out another quarterback. You're trying to make sure that whatever you do, you get your point across them is becoming more and more ridiculous on you guys' part. You're not winning, so it's not like you're not having them on the floor on the field because you guys are winning. and you're trying to preserve something. At this point, it seemed like you're just trying to go as far as you can to get a negative respond out of him, and we don't like it.

Not just because we're brown. We don't like it because it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to athletes. It doesn't make sense to entertainers. It doesn't make sense to the whole football community. I know whatever you guys talked about is just the gig is up, man. At this point, you're going to ruin your whole franchise doing this because people are going to remember how you're going to remember how you.

you did this. Whatever you're trying to communicate to Dion, go have a meeting with Dion meet Dion on a field on a golf course and talk about it, but it's time for the kid to play. I hope whoever's playing next don't play well. It's time for your daughter be on the floor. I said this was going to happen yesterday. I actually called this to be totally honest, which you might. I said that it's not a line to where, okay, the number two quarterback, is going to be number one and then the number one quarterback goes to the end of the line.

I knew Joe Flock was going to be number two. I just already predicted it. I didn't know if I was going to be right or not. We didn't know this until later in the afternoon. But the thing about it is this, and I'll say this because, you know, Shador's like my little brother, my nephew. I love him.

But the way they handled this whole situation, the Cleveland Brown organization I'm talking about, from the very beginning, I knew that they was going to put him on the back burner from the very beginning. into the season. And it's going to have all of us in the uproar because we love the kid. We know he could play. Not just as a friend or somebody we consider the family. We know he could play. Now, looking at it from a football standpoint, my personal opinion is this. They should

have started the season with Dylan Gabriel and kept Joe Flacco as the backup. I think Joe Flacco is a decent backup. He's proven to be a decent backup the last three years, even when Deshawn Watson got hurt. He was on the couch and he came in and he got some wins for the Cleveland Browns. And that's the reason that he's in NFL last year. We know he played backup quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts last year. And Cleveland brought him back this year. But I already knew from the beginning of the season, they know Shaddell, I mean, Parma's Shadell, Shadour, Casale tickets, jerseys, everything else. But I don't think they're respected him as a quarterback. And Mace may be right.

It may be something personal with D.N. Or it may be something personal with his last name. But we've seen this from the day of the draft. So for us to still keep getting in the uproar about everything, I'm talking about us as family. We're always going to get mad. And like you said, Mike, I use this example on this show at different times.

And it may not be the best example to use, but I'm just using an example. Somebody goes to trial and they're convicted or whatever crime If they're crying, they like, look at this cry, baby. If they got a serious face, they say, oh, he don't give a fuck. Why is he serious about it? And it's the same situation with the Sodor Sanders comments. If he says one thing, he's wrong.

If he says this thing, he's wrong. If he smiles, he thinks it's a joke. If he's serious, oh, why is he acting like that? It's always going to be a problem until he gets on that field and perform, and I'm waiting for that day to come. I'm hoping sooner than later. But to me, what's going on is this, is that the Cleveland Browns, my personal opinion, I don't know this for a fact. They see, they're not playing well.

We got to think about this. First of all, this is their 41st quarterback since 1999. This is the 12th under Stefansky. They got a terrible offensive line, lack of talent plus injuries. Joe Flacco got sacked nine times and three games. So they're saying, oh, we got to make a change. And I'm not blaming Flocko on this. It's the fucking team.

Let's think about this. To me, I like Jerry, Jerry, Judy, but is he really a one court, or is he really a number one? Is he Michael Irvin? Is he just, is he fucking Jamar Chase? He ain't. You need somebody else over there so that he can be, he ain't. You know what I'm saying? So to be honest with you, I'm not.

I'm not saying that I don't want Shadour to play, but with the rest of the shit going on here, it's crazy. This is the 12-star quarterback under Safersky and the 41st quarterback in the franchise in the last 25 years. It's not stable there. And I would hate for Shador to get in the game,

not look good, and then they'd be like, see, this down the third. I'd rather, because as much as we talked about it last time, Mike, we are appreciating that it's kind of going under the radar for Ken Ward because of the team. You get what I'm saying? At least it's not being advertised,

like how bad that the Tennessee Titans are playing. Okay, cool, let's get this shit out the way and get this nigga some more weapons and some more tools to hopefully get better and it's not blasted out there. Anything should do or does, they're gonna put under a microscope, good, bad, and different.

No, this is crazy. Wait, Mike, I wanna say something because this same Dylan Gabriel, this is the same guy a year ago, Ken, we're talking about six years in college, right? This is the same quarterback. So this is not a quarterback that's better than Shador. In fact, the guy is even 5-11 like Russell Wilson's that we can't see over the line. So there's a lot of things right here that I'm not just saying this because of personal feelings.

This is a guy that played at UCF. He played at Oklahoma and he played at Oregon. So he had to jump around to get a place that he could really have it be his team. So this is not, the pedigree of quarterback is not the same when it comes to these two quarterbacks. So that's why I know it got to be personal in some kind of shape, form of fashion, because the talent doesn't even weigh the same. He played good in the preseason.

He played, Dylan Gabriel played real good in the preseason. And his last year in Oregon, he played really well as well. He played very well. I think that's six years. Yeah, I think a lot of things what they're looking at too is he does have an ability get Dylan Gabriel, I'm talking about, to run. He could run, he can run.

And as Cam just talked about this poor's offensive line, you got you got somebody that can move. Whereas Sador is going to try to play quarterback and sit in the pocket and find plays down the field. Another thing, Cam said, you're talking about Jerry Judy. I think Jerry Judy is a good receiver, a great up-to-field receiver. Get up the field, take the deep balls.

But never ever do you have your number one receiver as to get up the field receiver. If he's fast enough to get up the field, that's great. If he's a Jamar Chase to get up, then run the deep balls. But you've got to be able to run all the intermediate stuff, the slants, the crossing routes, all of those things. because the percentage of the deep ball is so low in the NFL. So you have to have the slants, the crossers, all of that stuff that Jamar Chase does, you know, that very few people can do and still get up the field.

But the thing I also have a problem with what's going on in Cleveland is I'm a peer football player. And I've always seen this game as a meritocracy. You get what you earn. You know what I mean? Nobody gives you anything. And I want to see them give him a chance to earn it. That's all he's asking for is a chance to earn. He's not asking you to give him anything,

but that opportunity that he's earned. If you drafted him, you drafted him for a reason. So that's why I get upset about in all of this, and we got to make such a big deal out of it. It's like I have a problem with that. Yeah, I think my personal opinion, and this is just from the Cleveland Brown's perspective, I think that they've seen, and this isn't Shador or Flock or Dylan Gabriel.

Of course I want Shador to play. That's my nigger. I'm just saying I think what they seen, what the Giants did last week, insert in Jackson Dark, pause, and that energy that the rest of the team got, and they're hoping that that works for them this week, saying we're going to get, and now it could have been Shador as well. But I'm just saying I think that that's why they're making the change right now. Of course, Cleveland hasn't looked good the last few weeks,

but I'm just saying in general, they've seen that burst of energy that the Giants got, not only got a victory, they seen how the team rallied around. Jackson Dartner was exciting to have him on the field, and Cleveland's going to try that same thing this week, in my personal opinion. So, Mike, like you were saying earlier,

the response is a separate conversation. So I'm going to read this to kind of get you guys' perspective. If so, an NFL insider said, Shador had basically the miming response because earlier this week, former NFL head coach Rex Ryan actually blasted him saying something's missing with this kid. This kid talks and he runs his mouth. Like he said, I can be a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get your ass in the front row and study and do all that. If I know the whole league knows, quit being an embarrassment that way. You've got the talent to be the quarterback. You should be. You should be embarrassed that you're not the quarterback. now. So this was in response to an interview where Shador spoke to ESPN Cleveland, where he said, if you see the quarterback play in the league right now, I know I'm capable of doing better than that. So Mike, what's your thoughts on what Rex Ryan had to say about Shador? I didn't like, and I think I like Rex. I like Rex. I think he's been a great coach. But Rex was out of line and saying the things he said.

He's not in those meeting rooms. He doesn't know if your door sitting on the front row or not. If he said, I got sources saying this kid don't study, this kid's in the back of the room, acting the class, then you say something.

You say something. But don't just say those things because you want to sound, you want a sound bite, and you want to go viral and talk about what this kid's not doing. I mean, you were loud, you were proud, and you did all those things, but you never brought home a ring.

I mean, we can all say, get your ass up front and go get one of the rinks. You know what I'm saying? And you didn't do that. So come on, man, that's what I have a problem with. I never heard him say, listen, I got great sources inside that organization that says he's sitting at the back of the room, he's playing around, and then he comes out here and cross the hand and say he should play quarterback. fact, then you got something. You got something. But to say that without saying I got great sources

means that that's just your thought of what's going on is no fact in it whatsoever. And that's the issue. So Mike, this this football conversation is a little bit above me at this point because you and Rex have done it in the NFL. So I would ask you, do you think that this is clout chasing? Does it come across as cloud chasing you? I just have to ask the question. That's what I'm here to do. Well, with Rex, with Rex, you know, I think Rex, I don't know if he's clout chasing, you know, Rex understands young quarterbacks. He took a Mark Sanchez and did some great things, put Mark Sanchez all the way to a UFC championship game. So he's a great coach. He's a great coach. He's done some great things in his coaching career.

But just this right here is, I thought, was out of line to go that far and say that to try to intimate that this kid is not paying attention in meeting rooms and he's goofing off and he's not studying. And I say somebody in the organization has told me this, that I think is absolutely irresponsible. Okay. Look, Rex Ryan comes from a great football family. His father is a great football mind. Rex Ryan, he actually won a Super Bowl as a defensive coordinator. And like you said, he did a good job with the Jets as well that you mentioned, taking them to the AFC championship.

And even as the head coach of the Jets is really when I was aware of Rex Ryan and then I started doing homework on him. And then, you know, I love that 85 Bears team. because I used to have the refrigerator Perry pajamas. And... There's buddy Ryan in his dad. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I'm saying, you know, that was my team, McMahon,

Walter Payton, all the refrigerator. I'm just saying, at this point, Mike, I was probably seven, eight years old. I had to pack me in sheets and the William refrigerator Perry pajamas. And I was like, oh, that's... Because, you know, that was a big thing that they lift up his dad, Buddy Ryan,

and not Mike Dicker. You know, some turmoil going in the locker room with that situation. So I started doing a lot of homework on that. And Rex Ryan, when I got aware, I did the homework on him a long time ago, though, because he was always loud as the Jets coach. And he's always predicted that they was going to go

to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl. Every year, this is the year we're going to do it. This is the year we're going to do it. This the year we're going to do it. And you just brought that up, Mike, in your tape. Nigger, you loud, Rex. As a coach, you're loud as a coach and especially as a commentator

you're very loud and you take bold takes so when Mace asks what's a cloud chasing and I don't think it's cloud chasing this is just what he do he's loud he talks a lot he makes bold predictions and bold statements

and he's a colorful person as far as commentating and it's concerned we're offended because nigger it's your door mind your business but this is what he kind of do you know what I'm saying

makes bold prediction make bold predictions, make bold statements, say a lot of outlandish shit, say that Mark Sanchez is the best quarterback in the world, actually go get a motherfucking Mark Sanchez tattoo after these niggas went to the championship for attention. I think that he knows what to do

to have the media react to certain situations like this. I don't think he's stupid about shit like this at all. I don't think it's random. I do want to reiterate real quick, what Shador said. And I know I said it, but I just want to be clear because so all Shador said basically to ESPN Cleveland that he was ready to play right now. And he said, if you see the quarterback play in the league right now, I know I'm capable of doing better than that. So I know we talked about Rex Ryan's comments. And then we've just seen the media criticize a lot of what Shador does. But why do you think, Mike, and let you go first? People have such a problem with that statement. And I'm baffled. I'm baffled. If he said anything, else we would jump on it and be all over him like we don't have any confidence that's why you're not playing so each man every man that's not not on the football field every man in the national

football league has to believe that he is good enough to play in the national football league to even be in the league so anything else comes anything else that comes from him i would be shocked anything outside of yes i i i'm looking around i'm seeing and absolutely i can play in this lead will be shocked i wouldn't want to play with anybody else that said anything else to be totally honest with you yeah like what else was he's supposed to say i'm looking around i don't belong here can somebody move me out of here like like it's not like he said you know what i'm sitting here and I'm actually better than everybody on the floor. That would be something they did say,

you know, you need to pump your brakes, pause a little bit, but that's not what he said. He said exactly what he's supposed to say. I'm ready to play. And anybody, and they're just mad because the rumblings that are going to come from that, if the kid is ready to play, you're giving everybody else a shot.

It's going to be time for him to get a shot. And I just say that because I know Stats says something, but when I went and really studied about a 5-11 quarterback, you're just not going to get it done when the bigger linemen come in the playoffs. You're not going to be able to get anything done with that. So just preparing for this person to be QB1 is just a bad idea if you're thinking about winning. And take it a little far. And take a little farther ago.

If he had, that was a question that was asked of him. So if he had called a press conference, if he called a press conference, out of the blue and stood up there and said, I'm calling this press conference because I've seen quarterback play in the NFL and I'm better than them. Now that's a different thing. You see what I'm saying?

That's a different thing. Oh, you call it a press conference to do that? Then we're saying something. But he's answering questions. And if he doesn't answer the question, nah, oh, you think you're too good to answer a question. I'm over that, man. How else could he have answered that question, though?

Just think about it. For all of us that are on a panel right now or at the desk, how could he have answered the question? What's the question? What did they ask him? I don't have the exact question that they asked him. So I will give my assumption, stats assumption. This is not verbatim, but by his response,

saying ready to play right now, they probably asked him how he felt about being QB3. You feel like you can play in the NFL? Yeah. Right. Do I feel you capable of playing in the NFL? Something like that. the way I would answer me personally, look, I said this before

and I'm just giving my opinion. Yeah. When he had those two good games in the preseason and he ran down on that reporter like, see, told you, you keep writing bad shit about me, da, da, da, da, da. And I was like, yo,

I wish he didn't say that. Go get him for that. That's what I was saying. This situation right here, when you're asking, what could you say? You could say, look, I'm ready to play right now without shitting on other other quarterbacks

in the league. Look at half of these niggas in the league. I'm better than these niggas. You could have ended it. I'm just giving advice. Yeah. You could have ended it. Look, I'm ready to play right now.

What I believe is this, and I was about to give my take on it, it's this. Listen, man, this is the way this shit go when it's genetics. Dion Sanders is the nigger father. They flashy. They talk shit.

I talk shit. I would probably say some shit like that. You get what I'm saying? I'm older now, but I know the 22-year-old me, or 23-year-old me. I would have said worse. Yeah. I would have said shit. My facial expression would have got me kicked out. Yeah, exactly. I'm seeing this as a grown, mature man, but I know 20, shit, 35-year-old Kim would have been like, fuck is wrong with these niggas out here. So I understand it, but But to me, what they're trying to do is humble the Sanders' last name, because their star is bright.

I'm just saying, Chador's been on TV since he was three. These niggas, number one, these niggins are used to the lights. And to me, they're trying to dim their lights. I'll give you an example real quick before I wrap my take up. Stephen Jackson. Shout to my niggins, Matt Barnes. They podcast, I'm on a super dope podcast. or the smoke.

Stephen Jackson played for the San Antonio Spurs. And when he got to the San Antonio Spurs, this is when Kawhal Leonard is just getting there. We all know how good Kawhal Leonard is. And we know Stephen Jackson is really good too. And Greg Popovich wanted Stephen Jackson admit that Kawhal Leonard was better than him. He's like, do you know he's better than right?

Stephen Jackson's like, no, he's not better than him. Nobody's better than him. He's like, see, you're not thinking. You're not thinking, he's better than you and you need to understand that so we could flow in the offense or the team and the fluidity, whatever words he used. No, he's not bad at me.

I don't, you got me fucked up. He's not bad to me. Are we gonna actually leave? Because you're not seeing what we're saying. What we're trying to say. And that's part of the reason, but this is a competitor. So what Mike's saying and what you're saying, Mace, is that what do you want a nigga

to say, you want a nigga to admit that he's better than me? What kind of competitor do you want? If I'm sitting there saying, I'm not going to tell you a nigga's better than me. And I'm just using that example as, to me, how some of these people look at it. Yo, listen, man, we know you are saying this,

but calm down. No, I don't want to calm down. I'm nice. I'm nice. And I don't know where this is going to play out in the future, but I hope it works out in his favor. Yeah, it seemed like they're trying to make, him um acknowledge the team instead of acknowledging himself like as i heard my take and i heard

your take and i heard mike's take i think that's what that would be the only healthy thing other than what we're saying is that okay yes the team right now and they made it the coach made a decision this is probably what they wanted them to say the coach made a decision i respect that decision and when my time come you better believe i'll be ready But everybody's different. And we get into a problem when we try to make everybody like us. You know, like, when I played the game, when I played, I played excited, I first down you. And it wasn't to put you down.

It was to lift me up. This is how I play. This is how I play. Now, if you taking it personally, that's on you. You know, stop it if you can. Nobody else has but try it. You see what I'm saying. But don't try to tell me.

mean, I'm cocky because I just called a touchdown and I threw my hands in the air and you couldn't stop it. Come on, man, this stuff. And I wasn't doing that for you. I was doing that to get me hype, to get my defense hype is people you always like. Like, why do you act like it when you score a touchdown? Why don't you act like Barry Sanders? I said, what did Barry Sanders ever win?

No, he's a great player. He's a great player. But since it's 53 men on a football field at the same time, it's not just about a great player. it's about all of us so now when i score and i'm hyped that defense gets hyped now they're going to field playing at a different level all of it commingles together and it must commingle together well that's all i'm saying sometimes people are the way they are because of that's because that's what lifts them you're more and all you see is oh they put me down no no no no no no they're lifting themselves let a man be you're just always tell us this go

do you. Everybody gets ready for a game a different way. Some people want to take a nap. Some people want to listen to loud music. I want to listen to Al Green, something soft and sweet to calm me down before that death come to you. You see what I'm saying? So everybody does it different. No, listen, Mike, and I think that's a tremendous point. But see, the thing about it is you and this It's a super duper asset that we have you on the show so we can see the levels. But a lot extra gets tolerated when you win, especially win championships.

Right. So a lot of the shit you talk about that you do, you win championships, so you get to get a little more broke than somebody else who doesn't win a championship. I'm going to say this, like, and I'm not beefing because I know we had a little exchange before on the internet.

We take somebody like Chad Johnson, right, Ocho Cinco. Outstanding with the Cincinnati Bengals, I think he was a great wide receiver. But then, as he gets older times, declining, and I sat there and couldn't think him, and I sat there as much as a fan of his as I was, I couldn't understand why I built when he got to the Patriots,

Bill Belichick didn't even put him in. He ain't even put him in for a minute. And we know Bill Belichick's a little, you know, he's one of them type niggas, whatever. This nigga cut Randy Morse after I've been fucking, Tom Brady hits 50 fucking touchdown passes and you cut Randy Moss, you're a wild nigger.

I'm talking about Bill Belichick. But what I'm trying to say is what you just said, Mike, you get to, every way, do you have different ways for people to get hype and do this and do that, and this is the way I warm up. If you're not women, some of your warming up and shit that you do or off the field or whatever will not be tolerated because it's not producing wins.

You was nice, top fucking receiver of all time. You got a little extra rope to where sometimes people don't get that extra rope if they're not producing it. And this is not talking about Shador because he didn't even get a chance to show if he could produce a night. I'm just talking about other people. We just talked about Dennis Rodman and shit the other day. The shit that the bulls would tolerate.

Yeah. For those championships. You know, Michael Joy, what do you mean you gotta go to Vegas for a few? minutes what do you mean in the game in between the championship series game two and three you got to go do WrestleMania Michael Jordan got to come pick you up in Vegas this is the shit that they would tolerate because they know it were equal a championship over all I was with him in Vegas I was with them in Vegas you see my dude that's you're my dude hey all that stuff came about by

him and Carmen and all that Carmen like I'm like please don't bring me You know, because I was with them out there in Vegas. And we used to hit a little spot up in Chicago, man. And I still be with Dennis down in Florida at my boys' hotel out on the beach, Ocean Manor sometimes hanging out, man. So, so yeah, that's my dude, man. Dennis is a different kind of dude. Yes. Yeah, you guys all had very, very good takes.

This was a great discussion. But one thing I will just add really quick, I do think that just in general, I just, and I know it's football, it's never supposed to be easy, but I do think the media should have more grace because, to Cam's point, Shador has never even got to play yet for them. So all these comments and these things and saying he should do this and he should do that, at least you guys can have your different takes and come together and still say he deserves a chance.

I think that these people are counting him out before he's even had the chance to be counted in. And honestly, in my opinion, I feel like maybe like for some people, it's become a trend just to shit on him before he's even had the opportunity. to do anything yet. And that seemed organized. Yeah. That's why when you said cloud chasing,

that might not be the right word, but people just know like, okay, this is a buzzword because it's to me it's just to the point where it's like, he, like it's his first year in the league, like we didn't see him like be where he should be at yet. So all this criticism is just a lot. Should do it. That name Sanders is like a trigger.

You know, I hear killers say that about, you know, people being triggered a lot. I think for a lot of people, that last name is just triggering to them. So, therefore, this becomes an opportunity for them to get back in some sort of way. It's so obvious. I'm surprised that people act like they can't see it. You know when people, you go in a place and people don't like you, you know, if they've been talking about you, it's just a feeling.

Yeah. I've been hated on a long time, so I can sense it when I see it. Yeah. Hopefully they figure that out because his, day will soon come. Yeah. But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Mike, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.

Thank you. It's always a pleasure to be on this show. I just love the topics. In the end, they kind of ends and out of all the things that we talk about. So I appreciate you guys, man. Looking forward to this week, big week. Yep. Good seeing you, Mike.

Okay. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want, what you want, nigga, everything nigger, super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.