IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN GOES OFF ON PEOPLE HATING ON HIM & PRIME, JERRY JONES' FLIPPING FANS OFF & A COACH HITTING A PLAYER

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

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It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace and Cam. Today we are doing with our analyst, Michael Irvin. Mike Killer, what's good, y'all? How you doing, man? Hey, all is well over here. We chill it over here. Cam, you're in the dark over there.

Where are you in the dark? I was telling Mace yesterday my displeasure. I haven't been in my house in New York. Fire alarms is going off. Lights is out. This is then disarray over here. I've been here in two years. So apartment's a little dark out.

But Mike, I had a question for you. What's up? Yo, Nick, play that drink. I want to know what's going on. When they can knock niggas out. I call passing in the midst of pain. You don't do that. Y'all didn't never have to do that.

So shut the hell up. On every level. Trying to shit on my career. On what I have done. That's right. You are none of these fucks complain and do the things I did. So shit the hell off. Sicker this shit.

I take it. I listen. What about about where you caught more? I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn about none of that. I won championships. That means I went in and made plays where Pan I ain't lived.

Y'all can't do that. Y'all ain't never did that. Y'all don't have to do that. You don't practice work and shit. You don't take no hits. Everybody touch you, you throw a flag. You understand what I'm saying? Stop, man.

Stop! Mike. Mike, what the fuck happened, man? Who you talking to? No, the niggas got first fruit. You know what I mean? That's what that was. I had just woke him.

up. I had to have my little moment with myself, and that's the first thing pop up on my phone. I called that first fruit. You got that real wrong. And dog, this joke was talking about. Dion couldn't cover the receivers the day, and what we were, when we were playing, because we couldn't run. We were strong, but we couldn't run. Like, this is the damn track meat. man this ain't no track me what you're talking about game of football you know what i'm saying so it was like man dude people are listening to this mess people listen and then it was so ignorant it was such an ignorant thing it really didn't beg my effort on my conversation but like i said i just gave me that old lot of them you know what i mean

I look around the rooms in the greats where I'm in those rooms. I ain't never seen you. And now you're talking about things you don't know what you're talking about. He said, Dion, couldn't cover these guys because they're so fast. And then he said, guys, the guys like who? Chad Johnson and Justin Junk. Those are not fast receivers. I mean, you know, it's just, dude, everybody got them out.

It seems like everybody got a microphone. But a man's opinion is only as good as his knowledge on the subject and them niggas knowledge is that zero. Mike, I must say, I don't know that, Mike. I was surprised. I don't know you like that, Mike. I like that, Mike. Yeah, are you okay, Mike? Yeah, I like that.

I'm just saying, man. Hey, I like that shit right there. Well, hey. But it's all 100, though. Right? It's real. Like, these jokers are talking about running. You're talking about, I ran into the midst of paining to get mine.

They couldn't even play at that. And they got people telling these young men and women, young women and men, that's growing up loving the game, that blows my mind. Mike, this sounds like the same thing Statenham do about the 90s in basketball. This is, it sounds like a carryover to football. Yeah, but basketball, basketball in that time and in this time,

it's just about, okay, getting around people and laying a ball in a basket. Football makes you reach down to your deepest man. You ain't go see great pain of being knocked out or your spirit leaving your body in a basketball game, no kind of way. And these Negroes ain't going to never see it because the game was too tough like that. They stopped playing like that because of what it calls for people. I went into that to get mine. And none of them ever have to.

Don't tell them about how quick you can move steep if you ain't telling me how deep of a heart you have to go and live in that pain like I had to. See, Mike, I knew there was a reason I was supposed to wear this hat today, Mike. This is exactly how I was feeling. I didn't know why I was told to wear this hat. I must have read killer's mind. He was going to come in here talking about champ. So, you know, I just wore my hat.

I don't even know why I wore it. But it makes sense now. I want to add really quick, Mike. I know you were being dead ass serious and I see the passion there. But seeing that, there's just no reason why you should not be acting. That sounds like a monologue in itself. Like I need to see. you playing some sort of role.

I don't know what exactly you would want that role to be. Black Panther. It's a range. You have a range. You have a strong range. And Mike, Mike, for real, for real? That statement, your opening statement

is up there with Deontay Wilders. Till this day, till this day, what Mike said? What opening statement? We, championships. Championships. I felt that. I felt like a pet talk.

I felt good. Yeah, that was real, Mike. Yeah. You might, you might have a meme of the year. You might have the meme of the year coming up. You don't even know it. Somebody's going to edit that up. Right.

I'm going to talk to my guy at Mace TV. He's going to edit that up. I'm going to tell you the part I'm talking about. Yeah. You were up there with Deonté Wilder, for real. That was great. Okay. You got to see it.

So now, y'all, let's get into this Thursday night football game. You know, we got to go over our predictions. So the Eagles will play the Giants. We see the Eagles are coming off of a loss versus the Broncos. Mike, and I'll let you go first. Do you think the Giants have a chance to win this game? Absolutely not.

Now, they can make it a close game. And hopefully, hopefully some things happen in the Eagles implode, especially after they've already had that, you know, by land or by air leading. So, you know, I'm not saying Don't remember me now, but Jalen Hertz, Sacon Barclay, and A.J. Brown supposedly have gotten together and had a conversation. And it looked like they, it sounded like they were throwing a little salt just towards the officer coordinator. Because he's saying, you know, sometimes you can have the same pieces, but a different director.

Some analogy they gave me. But if you go into this game with another bad outing or bad performance, like, even. even a bad start, they could possibly implode. That's the only chance the Giants have a squeaking out of victory. And I doubt that out. Yeah, I agree with you on your first statement, Mike. This is one of those things. Absolutely not.

They're not going to beat the Giants. And I'm going to also challenge what you said, Mike. It's not going to be close. I don't see this being a close game, especially after Philadelphia losing it. you know, they're definitely not a team that want to continue this path. So you end up in New York, what a way to come back? You know, they're definitely not going to run all through the Giants.

Yeah, I'm going with the Eagles and kind of what makes it, that they belts them back off of a loss. You don't want to lose two weeks in the row. Secondly, pardon me, especially when it's the giant. Giants. You don't want to form that slopes. So I'm definitely going with the Eagles to win this game. Okay. Now, so the NFL has their week six power weight rankings, one being the lions, then the Eagles, then the Bills, then the Bucks, then the Seahawks. Mike, do you agree with this list? How are we feeling about it? Yeah. Listen, I looked at this next to win it all went over.

Now, I do take, I will put the Lions, but right now, I will put the bills, and then probably the Buffs, and then the Eagles. Now, the Eagles put up 17 points last week, and they can implode, they can explode or explode and put up a lot of points at any moment. But right now, when you look at how Tampa Bay Buffaniers are playing, And we talked about Baker-Mayfield, and I told y'all that old nationalist Baker-Mayfield has is good for the Buccaneers. Are y'all ready to admit that I was right when I told y'all that? And you see it's that same MOTE that he has that gives that team the feeling that they can come back.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I would have it's all right there right now. but the Eagles putting us 17 points only only in the way the bucks have been playing yeah I was shake up to three or four a little bit okay can I just clarify so you said lions bills bucks eagles and then who is your who's your last one there the Seahawks still yeah no I'm gonna put I'm gonna put uh I'm about to say the rear skin commander it's hard it's hard I was about to say the race skin

They're commanders. Okay. Yeah, I probably would, I probably would go more in the direction of, of the bills first. I would go with the bills first just because of the quarterback. And then I would, I would go with Detroit. Then I would go with Philadelphia. Then I would go with San Francisco Buccaneers. And I would have Indiana Colts last.

Now, the reason I would, I would do this is because when you think about the, the Detroit Lions, and starting off slow, they kind of turned that back around and got their offense jumping. So, and I'm happy for the city of Detroit. This is a great time for them. And I hope this is the year they finally turn it around. So I'm definitely going to put a lot of shout out there. And I will bump back Philly a little bit

because I think the bills, when it's all said and done, the bills will be a better team. Hold up. Wait a minute. Let me sit just a little something in it. Paul. Okay, Paul, put your positive. It's okay.

It's okay. I think your part. Let me hear. Hey, hey, make, make, make, make, make. It's been a long time. A long time since you've given a record and their teeth was nowhere in there. I know you gotta feel some way.

I can want to take the moment. Locket. Yeah. Yeah, Mike, we're right. If you look at the listing, This thing, we're right in the notable fallers. So right after them, you know, they put us right there. So they know we're the team next to be up there.

So, but good thing we don't win rings and good thing, you know, celebrating there's no confetti and there's no Disney World at week six, you know. But enjoy, you know, like Killer said, enjoy if this way you get your, your accolades from, you wouldn't be here today if it was based on week six. but I digress. Last two years, week six mattered. We always won't. Thank you.

Thank you. Last two years, week six was all good. Now, Niggins want to do that. Yeah, now I digress is crazy. What I want to do is before I give my answer this question, too, Because Mike Murdo, you got to pay attention than this nigga Mike, man. The nigga Mike tried to throw a little shot

and then give his power fire. He's talking about, are y'all ready to admit that I was right about Baker Mayfield? No, Mike, no. Mike, I don't know if you've seen it with a video this week. Baker Mayfield did an interview. And he was talking just like this.

I had to go through the depths of my humiliation in the NFL, and it really humbled me. And I'm not being funny at this part. He's like, I had to go to God. And I had to pray because it put me down to the bottom. The NFL really down to where it humbled me to where God brought me back to this great situation in Tampa. it wasn't that

nigger you talking about with all this ditty bopping or all the time of shit this nigger said yo I understand where you coming from in the locker room get back to standoff

social media praying to God and hoping you get the wins that's for giving him the wins not that abrogate Oklahoma nigger Baker Mayfield the new improve

pray to God I hope I have a job with football games. That's why I temperate is where they're at, my personal opinion. Do you have something to say before I do my five? Because I'll pull the clip up. I got the clip on standby. Well, I understand what you're saying. I do.

Because you're telling you, hey, hey, you're focus. And always these focus on football. But what I'm telling you, any, any exceptional man has exceptional issues. That's the balance of his exceptional risk. He'll be an exception. You see what I'm saying? So, yes, he has to balance his exceptionalist to make sure that he don't go too far over here,

that he can keep it right in the middle, so it is applicable and grateful and grateful what he's doing on the field. But you can't stop him from being him, is what I'm saying. That's what brings the best out of it. Well, you know what stopped him? Getting shitted on the NFL, the first three, four years of his career.

That stopped his ass. That definitely stopped his ass. And he knew it. He was stopped him. He wasn't getting boo-boed on, but going to the boo-boo organization in the NFL. That's what stopped. And no matter how great he is, you can't reach down in that toilet and pull up Cleveland.

They're still going through the same thing. And it was so early in his career that they put a lot of pressure on him that he did have to have a soul meeting with his own soul. But I like what came out on the other end when he came through that cocoon called Cleveland Brown. I'm not going to lie. That was real step.

You, you, you, your range is crazy. You was acting in the beginning of show. And now you, you got the closing argument of Johnny Cochran of O.J. Simpson case just in there. That was my near closing arguments right there. That's what I got from that. All right, Mike, you got it, man. Listen, my power break into this, man. I'm going to go with you.

Mike, I beat the lines in number one, but I'm going to swap out the Eagles and bills. I'm put the bills number two, Eagles number three, bucks stay in number four, but my number five team is not the Seattle Seahawks, it's the Jacksonville Jaguars. I like the way Jacksonville is looking this year. And not only that, they knocked over that nigger wearing over the hat that he don't know why he wore the hat today. they beat them niggas last week i'm putting them in number five right now well that's home killer i could go with you on that they're supposed to win look at stats shaking my head but that can be the game convenient right that could be the game for Jacksonville that propelled them to new heights

not just that they want but how they want you know being down 14 and and in the city thinking oh we've got We got our fellow back. We got our groove back. And then there come them young boys, 21 unanswered. Whole different thing. They'll carry that into the rest of the seat. That was a hell of a win for it. So, Mike, I'm just curious, given what you just said,

why would you put the commanders over the Jaguars? Just curious. Because of the experience of Jane Day over Trevor Lauren. Trevor Lawrence has been given a blessing in Travis Potter, a great believer that helped him believe. We walked in. Jane Daniels had belief.

So that's why I'm going to take names. Okay. I was just curious. I know Mike ain't just try to become a commander's fan. Mike, now are you saying this is your second team, Mike? I really needed no, no, no, no. I couldn't do that. that I would destroy my base. I'm about to say he's not even allowed to do no shit like that. Right.

That's what I'm saying. He was talking too crazy, just even about the commanders. But I get a big, I get Jay Daniel love, and how smart he is, and how calm he plays. And you know what I mean? And what I mean by that, like Trevor Lawrence, he sees an exceptional athlete, like Travis Hunter, and he's like, oh, okay, really.

He's a Heisman trophy winner. I can put all the pressure on him now. Plagues he made the other day. He's going to play both ways. It takes a little pressure on Trevor Lawrence and I see a better Trevor Lauren. That weight, that pressure, all of that, Jane Gagne has been carried with day one

who stepped on the football field. That's what I'm determining that. Got it. See, Mace, that would be called being non-biased. But see that? Nah. That's the thing. I'm talking about, Mike, we understand, that was a great answer.

And that's why I say, you got, you should, you should, I don't know what kind of classes you took on law, but you definitely, you know, I spent like an attorney. All the question was, Mike, was who's the top five teams now? Not, not, not resume, not what they did last year, not the experience, week five and six, But I have a weakness here. Who is the top five teams now? And you went into a whole spill about the coolness and this thing.

This thing is just ran the two-minute drill against Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes. Come on, man. They're asking what's going on week five. Not what happened in the past. That's what I'm saying, Mike. I like Jacksonville. I like.

I like that. You still haven't given us your father. giving us your five. I like Jake Day is more. I like Jay Day as well. That's a good picture. It's a good fit. It's a good fit.

Okay. So let's see if the non-biasedness continues for this next one. So the NFL fined Jerry Jones $250,000 for an obscene gesture towards fans at MetLife Stadium. Jerry said that the gesture was intended for fans of the Cowboys, not the New York Jets. So basically he was putting up the middle finger, but he says his intention was for it to be a thumbs up but it came out the other way i'm not going to do it because i don't need to be a meme not you're laughing so yes he was going like this but it didn't come out like that so mike first yeah hold on hold on i might got to go get my popcorn for it i want to hear this

said, Mike Gorset. I'm crazy, man, Mike, cover up. Mike, cover up. Covering with your dog, Mike, cover for your dog. No, no, no, I'm just trying to figure out. I'm just, hey, listen, y'all, come on. Y'all knew we grew up around a lot of dudes like Jerry John.

I don't know why y'all don't love him like I do. Y'all know Jerry Jones told you, basically, don't believe your line eyes. Believe me. Mike, we're not spending us with the live. Get to the answer. No, hey, it's like, hey, it's like you come home. Or better yet, better yet, better yet.

Your lady come home. And she now called you. And you ain't got nowhere to go. But this is what you say. Girl, I'm just saying, all these better than you. You're going to believe me or them lied out? You ain't see nothing. You know what I'm saying?

Mike, lying eyes is crazy. They know you lying if you say they got lying eyes, Mike. You got away with that, Mike? You must have been catching a lot of touchdowns, Mike. If you got away with that, don't believe you're lying eyes. That's funny, y'all. That's funny. How high is that ever is?

I totally agree with Mike. That's exactly what Jerry Jones is saying. Yo, why would you think I wasn't trying to put a thumbs up? Come on, man. What I look like throwing up a middle finger? Yeah. Don't believe that. Come on, my nigga.

So when he put his hand up, killer, his thumb, his finger just slipped out. That's what? I don't know. Y'all know, hey, boy, y'all know, y'all know we, we got hucks like that, boy, that's going on. I seen three of. What did he got, arthritis?

Back in the ghetto. Say the same thing, like, dude, dude, we knew that was you, dog. We're talking, boy, we, boy, get on out of here, boy. Get on out of here, boy, you're really, you. Don't ask me about you're nothing else. See, see, you know what I'm saying. Don't be believing them blind eyes. The one thing about Jerry,

first of all, I love Jerry Jones. I necessarily love the Dallas Cowboys, but I love Jerry Jones. But what I'm trying to say is this, Jerry got a note. They probably show him more every week than when any specific Dallas Cowboy playing. They start losing.

They go to the sky box. They score a touchdown. and he goes to the, they go to the Sky Box. Jerry Jones hot-fiving. Interception happens. They go to the Sky Box. Jerry, you know they was watching. That's why I fuck with Jerry. He forgot they was watching

because he was mad at whoever the fuck was down there and said, fuck you niggas, man. And that's what happened. And he said, I know, and then he told the he told the department, he said, no, I'm not to clean this up. out of cleaning this up, don't even worry about it. I ain't going to. Yeah.

Yo, I met for my phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My finger. Yeah.

Come on. You got to get them. I'm 79 years old. That could happen. Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah, that's great. My, my fingers slipped down.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, that's crazy. Crazy. Yeah. But Treas, before we move on, before we move on, we must lay this out correctly false. You know these Negroes in New York gets on everybody, no. So don't get upset when you get a little something back. You know what I mean?

All you all been saying everything and doing everything. I just want to give it all out. Let me tell you something about that, Mike, real quick. I don't think whoever he was sticking his middle finger up to was upset. They was like, look, I got that nigga mad. I got that he man's on fire. I don't think they were mad about it at all. I think, look, I got mad we got this nigga the way he's sticking up.

That's a stat for certain niggas. Right. Yeah, you got, you got Jerry Jones, the fly bird. You got Jerry Jones to fly one. in New York is crazy. Now, let me ask you this. He said he was doing it to his fans. Why, Mike, let me play the opposite attorney.

Why would he be throwing up a middle finger to the fans of Dallas? No, you know, now you believe in your line here. He was saying, I was trying to tell him if they keep playing like this, We can all be number one. Yeah, Mike. Bless Jerry's heart. Mike, you love Jerry. I know that.

I can see it now. That's funny, that's funny. Bless his heart. So one thing that I really want you guys to remember from the situation is it's, he's facing a $250,000 fine, which he could potentially appeal. So when we go to this next topic, it's a difference in prices. so I want to know you guys' opinions on this. So Cardinals fine, their head coach, Jonathan Gannon,

$100,000 for an altercation with the player. So they're running back, Amari Demerado, fumbled the ball before crossing the goal line in Sunday's loss to the Titans. The coach basically went into the player's face, shoved him very aggressively hard. It looked like a punch a little bit, but I don't want to put words into what happened,

because if you guys see the clip, you guys can see how aggressive it was. So Mike, I'll let you go first. How do you feel about this interaction and when do you feel like the line is crossed well this this is why I've always said it would be difficult for me to coach because I know the passion I had and I see you know coaching receivers or something and we just dropped the third down and I'm asking what happened and he says to me oh coach come

I'll get the next one. They're going to the next one I'm talking about. What I'm saying? So I understand I can't control mine. So I stay on this side. But it's never okay for a coach to put his hands on a player. Now, understand it. Like sometimes when coach you come up and say,

come on, let's keep going, baby, and hit you in the chest. That's all cool. I got you, coach. Stop you on here, let's go, please. I got you. I got you. But that was a heated. a heated situation. And as a head coach, your ultimate job is to manage all of it and

maintain your crew above all people. But I say this all the time. You tell me, I'll give you the top 33 most pressure jobs in this world. One, or be potis. But two to 33, don't be NFL head coaches, the man is under a lot of pressure. And winning is the only thing that can relieve that pressure. So, you know, it's not good. It's not okay. But I understand where they're going. What's the question against that? Yeah. So basically, when do you feel like the line is crossed? Because we saw that the head coach got into the player's face for a fumble that ultimately ended up costing the game and he really shoved him and was like yelling in his face

and got very aggressive. So how do you feel about the way the coach reacted and then the $100,000 fine? The fine was kind of a little excessive, I think. Because these days the fine wasn't enough. You think it wasn't enough, Mike? Jerry got $250,000 for a finger. And this man getting $100 for hitting somebody.

We all understand that. But just like the people that come to my house when I need them to do shopping, they're charging me according to what I have, not according to what happened or what they can do. You see what I mean? And it's the same thing here. They're charging generally important to what you have,

even though it's monopoly money and $250,000 is nothing. The $100,000, probably a lot of money again, but you know what I'm saying. So you can't say a finger and bigger, well, it's more a grievance than you put your hands on a player, especially if whatever race dynamics and all that goes with it. You got, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that could really go left.

I mean, what I'm more so speaking of is that the pressure that you said that these coaches are under, you know, you get the dropping balls, pause, whether it's passes or a fumble or any other way you want to put it. This can really change the difference of the dynamics. of the team coaches get fired they don't have as long as a rope as they used to have especially when they're not stellar quarterbacks and stellar coaches working together everybody don't have the same timeline and i i think he that that cooler heads could have prevailed but in this situation he probably was thinking about his job and almost lost it you know so you're right

the the price could have been much much higher and i think you definitely got to keep your hands to yourself because what if you would have just what if the player would have just responded and knocked them out on the side of field do you find him now or do you call that self-defense i would think that would be self-defense okay cam like you watch mafia movies or the doink about the mafia oh yeah love it how's it going the clergy system of the mafia When what? So you got the boss, the underboss, the copos, right. The capos.

Right. Right, right, right, right. For Rico come, I don't care for you the hitman who killed everybody. You may not get as much time as the boss. He may never pull the trigger on nobody. That's football. The coaches is one of the capos, man. Jerry Jones is a boss.

He's going to get hit with a bigger fine than a coach, than the coaches, whether the money or anything else, man. The owners are held to a higher standard. That's just the way it goes. So I understand where you're coming from, when you're saying that it may have been a physical altercation. But that motherfuckin fumbled the ball at the one yard line and nobody was on him. Man, listen, Mike, what the fuck?

I hate that shit. And niggas got to stop that. And that nigga, he thinks he all the way there and nobody on him. And just dropped the ball. And then he did something. Yo, my nigga. And then you lose the game. The fucking coach, that was, that was called for.

Yeah. That was called. Yeah, that was our high school coach. to put your hands on everybody else. Yo, my nigger, what are you doing? Listen, I was like I get it. And listen, you already answered, because you said that's why you ain't coaching.

Yeah, Mike be all on the field. But put you in that uniform, put you in that uniform. All your Negroes, all your, in New York watching this, and then white man put his hand on you. You ain't going for this. Not in front of the work. like this and now now we got a whole other scene on the sideline right right what I'm saying what I'm saying I hopefully obviously he knew who it hit he knew who to hit

nah Mike I ain't barring that I'm not barring that hold on real quick hold on hold on real quick murder you're right Mike I'm not saying what he did was right but I understand. I bet you this much. I bet you it was 52 other niggas over there with jerseys on top of mine. Lucky, that's all that happened to you, nigga. Lucky and get outside and some fans ain't hit you over your motherfucking hand. Yeah, come on, man. I understand you. Mike, you tried to go racial. Mike, you tried to go racial. That's Johnny Cochran that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. We're talking about a couple of players and coaches.

I self-indicted. I said, I know what I would have whooped his ass. I told you that's the first thing I said. I know I self-indicted because, and now I'm trying to save the situation. But there are people, and I guarantee you he knew who he can get that crazed with. The issue and why he got so mad is because, the C was supposed to be the worst team in the league. And you let them come back on us.

Now it's like, how can I keep my job if we just let the worst team in the lead coming back on us? And it's, you know, so I understand the pressure that coach is dealing with. I understand that action that coach did. I'm going to stay my black butter in their seat. Yeah, Mike, you made it a race thing. It wasn't a race thing. It was a judgment thing.

if you get to the one yard line and then you just dropped the ball almost I didn't make it a race thing I acknowledge the difference in the race oh my goodness Mike that's like saying it's not judgment to say with the judgment Mike you know you're talking to Mike you got to stop this Mike you got to be apprehended Mike I'm telling you this right now think he's talking to killer you can't spin with DJ spend a lot yeah Mike he gets to the one-yard line showbo and that's that's really why it really bothered the coach because it wasn't like he got knocked out of his hand it's him thinking he's already there about the you know he was trying to get it's trying to get his shine off and then the coach

Just thinking, man, it's not the time for this. Keep first things first. Get in the field and the in the in the in the in the touchdown and then do all of that. Don't bust your dance too early. Yo, Stack, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Yeah, that is a pause, Mike.

You're right. Stack, can let me ask you a question. Because I don't know who's spinning more because Merce said, Mason, pardon me said, His original take was, this could have went left. And you can't be putting hands on people. And you can't do this down the third. And then he just spun and said, yeah, man,

this ain't a race thing. This is a football thing, man. Can't be show off like that. Hey. What is what is what is one is it? In the words of Cameron Jowell, this is a debate show. Can you are supposed to be objective if he says,

something. I'm just supposed to say something else. We can't all agree. You didn't say nothing else. You agree with Mike. And they're both of y'all niggas backtracking. Mike. You know what the nigga Mike said? Mike said, I'm self-indicted. Yo, Mike. I'm self-indicted. Yo, Mike. I claim my fault. Oh, yeah, Mike. I was trying to give two separate sides of the equation, you know, pause. So you can see people could see it from both ways i wasn't jumping on both sides you know i will say y'all all had different takes and then y'all just came back to the same conclusion so it did go a lot of because at first you were like so do we believe your take was consistent but that's what i'm saying hit the nigger or not that's really the question not if you should hit him is his anger

justified we'll say that we know his anger justified should he had hit the nigger not that's what we need to know what do you say statt his anger was justified i'm sorry it was justified in the word i don't think people should be hit in the words of chris rot i'm not saying he should have done it but i understand we are all in unison with that one okay y'all. Is Draft Day overrated? And what's going on with Mark Sanchez? We will discuss after the break. Um, I'm gonna go with the young boy. Pause, pause. Yeah, I'm, I'm going higher.

Cam? Lower. Lower. Okay. Saquan, Barclay's at 104 and a half rushing and receiving yards combined. Do you have them higher, lower? Cam.

Lower. Lower. Okay, and AJ Brown is at 64. And a half receiving yards. Do you have him higher, lower Mace? Higher. Better be higher, man. For that nigger, reed.

You read the whole Bible. whole Bible on the side long. Yeah, man. Make sure you all download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So we're going to start with this Mark Sanchez story because a lot has been unfolding. So I'm going to explain it to the best of my abilities. So Mark Sanchez is now facing a felony battery charge after a stabbing incident involving a 69 year old truck driver.

The driver parked at a hotel loading dock to collect used cooking oil was confronted by Sanchez who claimed the truck couldn't be there, citing the hotel, hotel manager. Reports say Sanchez followed the driver blocking his access to the truck and shoved him. The driver states he feared for his life, used prepper spray, which briefly affected Sanchez. And then when Mark went at him again, the driver stabbed him two or three times in the chest. So in the end, Mark Sanchez definitely had the gashes from the stabbing, but he walked away. The driver, on the other hand, was in the hospital and he suffered a severe gash to the side of his face, penetrating all the way through his left cheek.

So that's a lot to unpack and then just hearing the story, still unfolding more details to see what happens to Mark Sanchez next. But Mike, after hearing that, what were your initial thoughts on this news? I don't know. I didn't know what to make of it. What would make Martin attack this man with such a way, you know? And then I heard they were drinking and stuff and then you started saying, wow. That behavior into that level and going to that place, knowing that you are here to do a football game, knowing what it's can escalate to.

Yeah, that's something to worry about. It really is. It really is. I don't know if you're having drinks and it alters, you know, who you are and some of it coming for in some way it affects you. you know i don't know what's going on but but that's obviously something wrong then for mark we've seen a million times as a reasonable man you hear him talking about the game to even go to that level that blows my mind i i can't make you into sense of yeah this is this is crazy i must say this um when i'm thinking about mark sanchez i i thought he was just a great guy this doesn't

sound like them but when you hear the details thus far and things can be changed but based upon what i've heard thus far it it sounds like reverse racism a lot of times people just think they're better than other people and and it comes out when you're drunk you know when people are drinking it seem like how they really feel deep down comes out it's almost like what happens with being a karen but i don't know if they got a name for guys like people that just follow people and try to impose what they think should happen and it's sad that they got to this place but when you play football you know rushing somebody your rushing somebody is going to be different than just a regular civilian rushing somebody you know and the guy defended themselves so this is crazy

but this is not something that we hear of mark do does all the time that's why i'm saying there's something here that we're overlooking we're caught up in the beauty details and the graphics of the story. You can even tell how we're a 69-year-old man, like Mark beating up his old man, you know, stuff like that. You know, we understand how we're talking. But if we think about it, there's something going on. We've never seen Mark at this one.

There's something that triggered no way I could believe that, just for no reason, he wanted to walk down and go attack the 69, this man. man that's just trying to deliver his truck or deliver whatever he was delivering from its truck. Yeah, Mike, why do you believe it needs to be something else? Not that we don't respect Sanchez, but if somebody rush you and then do all the things that he said, somebody's following you already. Let's just say this is you as a football player.

Somebody's already following you. and now you notice that they're they may be drunk and then those are already two red flags and then the next thing you know the guy is just rushing you what what do you think the response is going to be are you going to pray with them what are you going to do at that point what i'm saying though is this is something that we never heard before and something must have happened it triggered this time You know what I mean? I'm sure Mark's been drinking before, and this has never happened.

Something happened that triggered you to go after. You've got to be a, you got to know this is going to get here, no matter what. He was in town to broadcast the NFL games. So I, yeah, I hope the guy gets well and it's okay, but I hope Mark gets looked after and said so far. Yeah, I really wish Mark well. I was just really speaking to the details of this whole scenario because, like you said, something had to happen. Maybe words were exchanged, you know, but either way, if somebody is walking away,

they tell you this even when they train you to have firearms and things of that nature. If somebody's walking away, you can't do that. You know, you can stay on your ground, but if somebody's walking away, it's supposed to be over. that falls under the guidelines of self-control. What do you think, Statt? I just hope they figure it out because even just seeing the footage to begin with, like the way that Mark Sanchez literally got stabbed

and was able to bounce back and just walk freely, meanwhile we see the 69-year-old man in the hospital struggling, which looks like for his life. Again, don't want to put words into people's situations because I was not there, but it looks real bad. And it's like, you want to hold people accountable, but then when you hear felony charges, it's like, I also am not the one to be policing,

people because that's also not the type of person that I am but it's just an unfortunate situation that could have been avoided so I hope so if you so if you got a grandpa both of you if you got a grandpa and your grandpa say one of these football players rushed them do you care what team he used to play for no that's what I don't even care if he's a football player that's what I'm speaking because ain't nobody touching my grandpa that's what I'm speaking my grandparents my parents my sister none of that. So that's a whole different story. So yeah. You hear that you don't see labels. You see the incident that happened and the damages that were done at the end of the day. So yeah.

What about you, Mike? Somebody rushed your grandparents, but he was a Hizman. I got to stop playing, Mike. I played too much. Mike's, you don't want to hear Mike's answer. Mike, I want to hear your answer. The people want to hear your answer. This is a Hizman, though, Mike. This is a Hizman. Yeah, I know.

And even the way you're describing that is the doom for Mark Sanchard. All that talking you guys are doing. You know, now we got Mark Sanchard, a high on 12 for Russian, Russian men, you know, Russian old man. I was just saying. Yeah. I just said, man. It's such a crazy situation that, yeah,

somebody, you got to listen to that. Yeah, hope they figure it out. But let us know what you guys think about it in the comments down below because I know y'all have been wanting us to talk about it. But that is all the time that we have for today. Mike, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Always good to be here with you guys. Looking forward to it.

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