IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN IS FINALLY IN STUDIO WITH US!

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, THE PLAYMAKER IS FINALLY IN STUDIO WITH THE CREW! Michael Irvin joins us for the first time in the studio to talk about the Canelo/Crawford fight over the weekend, is Crawford now in the GOAT conversation?! Then, Titletown is now 0-2, is Ma$e still down with the Chiefs or nah? Killa had a side bet with Producer Nick about how many times Ma$e will say Titletown because the Youtube Streets say the higher is a LOCK! Lastly, the Cowboys almost gave Mike a heart attack with that crazy game vs. Russ and the Giants! Behind The Scenes (0:00) Michael Irvin In Studio! (2:00) Crawford Enters The GOAT Convo (4:00) Underdog Picks (29:15) Are The Chiefs Still Your Team Murda?! (31:00) Cowboys Edge The Giants (45:15) Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Sign up with promo code IIWII and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis #UDpartner Follow the show and our hosts on social media: ⁠It Is What It Is⁠, ⁠Cam'Ron⁠, ⁠Ma$e⁠, and ⁠Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson⁠ , ⁠Producer Ayooo Nick⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When they're talking about this, the dynasty over, trust me, when you do three in a row, people don't show. You have everything. Yeah, it's going to be fun, man. Because I know the Cowboys are doing this is exactly, it'll be all over. True. So let's not let that top of town over the town. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got to put that tag on it. Tileu Town has gone down.

I just want to tag that thing with you. Oh, for sure. I just want to know what's so funny. Everybody's laughing. What's so funny? It's not, Mike's not that funny. Like, everybody's just laughing at everything. He's not really that funny.

He's a ghost. It's kind of fun. Right, right. It's kind of fun. That is good, that's good. It's like, whoa. Welcome back to It is what it is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few.

Underdog is dropping awesome promos all week long, so make sure y'all check the app to see what's next. If you're new, use code, it is what it is when you sign up, play $5, and they'll drop $50 in bonus funds your way. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be here soon, and today we have our analyst, Michael Irvin, live in studio. Mike is in the studio? Yo, listen, man, I'm hyped to see my big brother Mike in the studio. I don't think Mike would have showed up if Russell Wilson would have finished the job.

Listen, we already see Mace's convenient. Oh, my God. Mesa's conveniently running late. Mike came in here high stepping. Like they did something crazy. Like they were supposed to go to the limit with the Giants. But being Nase here, I'm just happy you look good. I appreciate you.

Thank you for coming, man. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate that, man. And I've been looking forward to coming to hang out with you guys right here in the studio, man. Thank you, man. And everything. Man, wow, though.

What a fight last night, huh? Yes. What a time, man. So, yeah, just thanks for having me. Thanks for having. Now, come on. And let me say this, too. You ain't lying.

Well, I was sweating like a mother-father, but I said, these jokes, don't lose, and I'm over here. I got to walk in that studio, all that joke is eight, You ain't never lied I thought about that. Listen, think about this, right? And I know we're going to get into it, right?

We lose our quarterback, the Bengals, because I'm a Bengal fan. We lose our quarterback. And we end up with Brown and winning this game. And I'm saying to myself, cool, Pittsburgh laws, Chiefs Laws. Right, right, right. You're only one of the state. You know what I'm saying? Because I was about to come here and start doing the gritty on y'all when I got to be on.

It's the gritty on all three of y'all. But Mike ended up on it offstand. I'd see this conveniently the Steelers aren't up here today. See, that's not up on our topics. But we'll find time for it if need be. A matter of fact, they are right here. They are. I asked you.

Just a little lower. And we don't get to it today. There's always another day. But of course, Mike, glad to have you here in studio. We will get to that game. But we got to start with the. fight y'all. So Terrence Crawford beat Canello to become the first male fighter to win

an undisputed title in three-way classes in the four-belt era. Mike, what did you think in the match? Were you there? What were your thoughts? I was absolutely right there. Partook in all the pre-game festivities and Netflix did such a fabulous job. I mean, really

you know, coming into sports and what they're doing now since they've gotten into sports, my guy over that Brandon Riggs and Gabe, those guys are really doing a great job. But it was epic to be in there last night. It was epic. Everybody was in there.

It was, I mean, and you could feel it. When they started the fight and those guys were walking out, I promise you, I had cheer bumps all on my arms. Now, and I'm sitting there watching the fight, we're right in the front. I'm with Charlie Sheen. I got Jeremy Renner and Dave Spade, right? And we're looking around

and you people, you know, I took a pick and we posted it and, you know, they were killing us in the comments, you know, that what a group, you know. Yeah. What a line up, you know. Quote.

Line up. In quotations. Hey, that was trying. Right. I said to the car. But, man, and even being around those dudes because, you know, y'all say what you want, man.

Sheen, I always saw. always an OJ. Well, you know, a real one and real one. Yeah, he could have been one of us. Yeah, he could have been one of us. So sitting there with him and watching and fight like that

and we would commentate to each other. Man, that was great, man. That was real great. It really was. And then I didn't know, you know, if they felt what I felt. So then I waited. I went to the after party.

And that's when Jeremy Renner came up. Did you feel that? I said, yeah, yeah, you feel? I said, oh, okay, okay. It's okay to talk about it. it then. Right. So, yeah, it was epic, man.

I was happy to talk about what? What? The man thing. That, okay, I did feel, I didn't want, because I'm the only football player. Right. And these are all massive actors, you know, so maybe they were doing an acting thing, but no, I, you know, it was a locker room thing for me. Right.

But they came back and told me, yeah, that was locker room. Right. Like, we should do it again. And, you know, so I hope we get a rematch out of this thing with Netflix. Yeah, man. But it was great. It was great. It was great.

Let me say this right. Let me tell why it's the bud. All the champions that we know, we love, and that is epic and it has earned what Bud has earned. They get a higher loft. You know, Mike Tyson is something different. Sugar Ray Leonard is something different. But Crawford, through his name up here, through his name up here with all of those guys, now that's his name. game.

Mike Tyson gets up there because he's a vicious rip your head off. Yeah. And everything, you know, Sugar Ray is sweet, but Bud is just a great dude,

man. He gets up there and thank God and everything and a good dude. So I hope he gets the credit he deserves when he doesn't have that kind of a game. Right. I mean,

off the field or out the ring because he has that kind of game in the ring. He's a bad man. Right. Bud kicked that. Yes, Burke kicked ass from beginning. And to be honest with you, I was a little bit pissed off

at the judges, two of the judges' scorecards having them 1.15, 113, because that means you only had Bud winning by two rounds. And to me, it was a, it was a, I'm not going to say he shut Canello out. I'll give Connell three, four rounds. But it shouldn't have been more than an eight to four judges scorecard. And that's why I'm happy. Because a lot of people say he'll have to knock him out because he can't win by decision.

because they're going to cheat and give it to him. But he beat him so convincingly that they wasn't able to do that. That's first and foremost. That's what I will say. So congratulations to bud. I was coming back from San Diego. I'm pissed off. Mike has hit me like, yo, where you at?

I'm stuck on I five. I see half the phone. I have to fight on my phone. All about a half in my house. They want to see gruesome fight. You know, the casual boxer fan didn't understand the technical beauty of what, happened last night from Terrence Crawford. They were like, yo, what happened this time and third?

You got to realize what you said. Bud doesn't care about having a personality or out the camera. He doesn't care about being in New York. He doesn't care about being in Los Angeles. He cares about Omaha, Nebraska, and he's a fighter. One person that that happened to,

and I related to, but it kind of reversed for Marshawn Lynch to where he became a personality for not wanting to be a personality. I'm only here so I don't get And that became a larger than life personality. But Bud is like, listen, I'm here to be a fighter. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about.

And he gave a beautiful boxing exhibition last night. Moving up three weight classes. A lot of people will say two. He only had one fight at 154. He's fighting 147 for years before that. So I'm saying he moved up three weight classes and put in a beautiful fight. Even when he wanted to get in a phone booth with Cadello,

he'll get in there 20, 30 seconds and get out. Take two, three rounds off box, getting in there 20, 30 seconds, and now, and last round they gave a little bit of more, you know, what the people wanted. But if you ask me, and I've seen him talking, and I have no proof of this, but I've seen him talking,

you talk to Floyd Mayweather, anybody who talks to Floyd Mayweather ends up winning the fight. I don't think it's more brilliant boxing mind in boxing ever. they're Floyd Mayweather. I'm not just talking about in the ring. I'm talking about things leading up to the flight.

All the way around. His whole business of boxing. Floyd will never say this, and I can't say it. He's right around. He's the one who said, yo, Ryan, come in three pounds overweight against that nigga, Devin Haney,

nigga, come in three pounds overweight. Yo, Tate, when you fight Ryan, put the rehydration clause in there. He can't gain weight next day. Make sure he stays at the 140 mark, so therefore he can't come in wearing 165. His boxing IQ outside of the ring leading up to fight is just tremendous.

I, you know, I speak to Floyd from time to time. He said, Cam, man, listen, man, anybody want to take my way now? When I was telling niggas to go, I forget the phrase, but the Olympic style drug testing, nobody wanted to do it, but Floyd was real adamant. They do it now, but, you know, even the Pachial fight. That fight took so long because Pachiazzi, Yeah, I didn't want to take the Olympic-style drug testing.

And Floyd was like, if you're not cheating, why don't you want to take the Olympic-style drug test? They do it now. But I just think that his IQ is bigger than anybody in boxing. And to have a, Terrence Cawford, to have that friend before this fight, when the only person who made Conello look this bad from a boxing exhibition is Floyd Mayweather, even though Cinella was younger. But to me, he made Cinello look stupid.

I'm talking about Floyd Mayweather. If you go back and watch that Floyd fight, it wasn't even close. It was a shutout. And the reason why the people say that Terrence Crawford had to win that by knockout, even though he didn't, is that one judge when Canelo fought Floyd had Canello winning the fight, which was just fucking ridiculous. The boy whipped the man from 1 to 12. You want to give him two, three rounds.

Fine. But for him that you have Canello winning that fight, absolutely ridiculous. But shout out to Buck Crawford. Congratulations. Very class act, very big class act on Canelo's part and Terrence Crawford part after the fight being there with so much turbulence leaning up to the fight. Look who showed up. Amazing. Made him in the building.

Been a rough morning, man. Been a rough morning, man. Mike, it's been a rough morning. Come on, we don't worry. They're going to be open. We're going to get through this, baby. Mike. We're going to get through this day, baby.

Mace, glad to have you here. We're going to get into that game, too, so literally nobody's off the hook. Y'all was just talking about the goat? Terrance Croffert. I had to chime in. I had to stay outside, really. I knew Cam was going to talk about this,

but Terence Croffers is the goat. He's the goat. He's a new goat. I'm going with new hotness. new hotness LeBron they do it with LeBron so The goat of everything, every ever Ever? He's the goat of every era

I'm going viral I'm trolling And there's one thing I want to say That I think We have to get made well the credit too That I think is the biggest Wait wait wait he's not the goat

No no no you're right No no no What he did That's what I was talked about earlier What he just did Was put himself in that up there with how we see the Ali's and the Mike Tyson's. But he was talking about the brilliance of Mayweather.

And I think the most brilliant thing Mayweather did was flip that script, maybe. Like, Don King used to come in and promote the fights and gave Mike Tyson, we were $5 million. You went $5 million fight. That's what they got to fight like for the rumbling jungle in Africa and all of that, five million. Why Don walked off with. with 100 to 200 million.

Floyd came in and said, holy dole, no moly of that going on over here. He said, I'm going to hire the producer and I'm walking away with all of that money. So Floyd, because I work with him. I work with Showtime and Paramount. The dude would tell me, we were brave friends, best of friends.

I was with him last night. As a matter of fact, he said, Michael, I got to get Floyd these checks. I got $250, $60 million, dollar checks over here, I got to give the Floyd. You know what I mean? From those fights that they were having. And if Floyd plays, pays the

producer, that's why I'm talking, that's the brilliance. Right. That was the most brilliant thing of all things. And now you get fighters trying that, but you got to build your brand like he built his brand. So, yeah, I want to just give him that credit. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm going to add my two

cents really quick before I had you a couple, ask a couple more questions about the fight. First of all, that was my first fight experience, which was a dope experience. Is your first? Yes. I feel super blessed. I'm like, for my first flight, that was great.

So again, also, shout out to Cam for him saying, Feet on the Wood or it ain't good because Netflix did hook me up, got to go on the Winfield Club. I saw a mic there. I'd never been there before. It was everybody there.

They give them this time on the star. Give you guys. Because I know y'all are talking technical, but I got to talk about the experience real quick. Yeah, it was. Chicken Tenders and Caviar. They're giving us Tomahawk steak.

We have a sweet section watching the fight. Then I can go closer on the floor to watch the fight. That was crazy. So it was super fire. They're doing a great job. Netflix, you're right. You give them some fire on that. And the energy was literally insane.

It was crazy. It was a lot of people, of course. So it was really dope. Getting better over the years. You know, you'll touch you up, man. That's exactly the standard. You can't go any other way. You can't go any other way.

Exactly. You can't go backwards, man. You cannot. Okay. Wait, wait. All this is great. Is Terrence Crawford not the goat? He is.

He is. He is. All right. And he made that statement last night. And that's what we were talking about, Mace. You made this, he made the statement in the ring. And because, think about this, I was with Van der Holyfield last night. And they're doing, you know, a documentary on him, you know.

And Van der was a bad man, you know, a bad man. And he's a, but he's a quiet champion. Good champion. God bless you when he gets up there. And, and Tims Crawford is that same champion. God bless you. Thank you for the fight and everything. And, you know, I just think, you know,

when Mike Tyson want to rip your head off and everything, well, that's easy to promote that. Yeah. They all want to see, whoa, that's a black man. He'll rip your head off. He's a crazy man. You want to promote that. But that good, quiet Christian brother is not the thing they promote.

Right. You understand what I mean? I'm saying. That's not the thing that goes big. So even in a rematch with the champ should be able to make the call because he's the champ. He makes the call on the belt, but not the call on the crowd because Carnello has the crowd. Last night, we watched that game in Mexico City. Yeah.

You see what I'm saying. I know, I told me what I'm saying. And I love my people. And I've said that a million times that I love my Mexican people because, you know, they big cowboy things. But they were in there last night, you know. So you got to consider the belt in the crowd.

And a rematch, yeah, I would love to see a rematch. Crawford says we flipped the script because Connolla made 150 and Crawford made 50. You know, I don't think they'll flip the script and give Crawford 150 and Conno 50, but we can win 25 this thing apiece, you know what I'm saying? and on that next fight. And I hope that, I hope they make that fight.

Well, the thing about it is, it's funny that you brought that up, Mike, it's because Tarver said that, I watched Antonio Tarver, and he was saying that, you know, that Crawford's, you know, he just won, he's the money man. No.

And Crawford, the crowd. The crowd. Like makes sense, arguably could be the goal. Because you think about this is he's a three-time undisputed champion in three different weight divisions. You got people who's champion in four, five, six weight divisions.

but not undisputed. He's the first one in any, undisputed in three different weight classes. But if anybody should know better, is Antonio Tarva? Because you knock Roy Jones out and you didn't become the money man. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm not comparing those two, but people just like who you like. When you talk about Floyd Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather realized after he beat Oscar Delahoya that you all think about his last fights till he retired. All people who's not from this country,

all people who's going to, going to get the pay-per-view numbers from other countries. Brother is Ricky Hatton. God, God bless today. Ricky Hatton just passed away. I don't know. They don't say what happened, but R.P. Ricky Hatton. Even when he fought the M.M.A. nigger, the U.S.C. nigga.

Trana. Krona. McGregor, exactly. Every fight he did after Delaware, he said, I'm going to make sure it's somebody who from another country. From another country. So you're pulling that money from the other countries. Right.

Then he said, I don't need the brawl with you as long as I win. Because Floyd will tell you there's more people to pay to see him lose. But at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck how you pay for it as long as you pay for it. So I give him credit that. And then he also marketed itself, well, all those 24-7s the niggas used to do when it be L-Axed 24-7. Floyd will show you, it would be an hour show. Floyd's show him boxing for seven, eight minutes of the show. The rest I'm going to buy Ferrari today.

The rest I'm going to buy a watch today. He sold a lifestyle, and that's what made niggas want to be. Count a million dollars. Yeah, count a million dollars in the house, the sneaker collection, so on and so forth. And to me, Bud don't give a fuck about none of that. I'm going to be Omaha. I'm going to be the person I am. And as long as you, if he's making 50, and you're going home to your family,

and you say you're from the place where you started from, I can't count niggas money. I'm pretty sure 50's a lot in Omaha. 50's a lot anywhere in the country. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not saying he'd be the money man because he don't care about promoting like that. But I definitely think he could get a bigger check if it's a rematch. Yeah. Okay.

So post-fight, Canello had a quote where he said, I think Crawford is way better than Floyd. So just after hearing him say that, what is your thoughts on the comparisons and him even saying that after the fight? Yeah. Well, that was interesting because I was messing with Mace early because, you know, Bud said he had been hit hard. harder even by someone else besides Carnello. And then Conello, and I said, man, I guess they're just throwing barbs at each other. But that would be, man, because I can't doubt that bug would fight anybody or beat anybody. You know what I'm saying?

Even, even the Floyd's what he's done right now. I got to say, I can't go up against that, you know, and you can't doubt the Floyd could beat anybody. You know, it's just what that is. And that would be, ooh, that'd be a hell of a fight. Yeah. Okay, Mace. Oh, man. And you can do those things now, because it's like you say, it's about attention.

Yeah. Who cares even so about what we, nobody cares. We can put this together, and both of them are going to make two, three hundred million. You're saying, y'all would want to see Floyd fight. You're just saying, if it's just, you're saying. Yeah, right now that would be a horrible fight, but, um, I'm, Back in the day, that would be a next, I wouldn't go against Floyd against anybody. It's just the feat that he's reached on this one run is insurmountable.

Just like Killer was talking about, when you have somebody that is undisputed in three-way classes, that's not easy to do. It hasn't been easy for people to do in one field. You think about all of the great fighters that look like they're dominant where they are, and they still are not undisputed. You look at Javante. You look at what Floyd did. He was never undisputed, and he dominated, totally dominated that particular weight class.

And he went up a few weight class. But you got to remember, Buzz started at 1.30? To make it all the way to 168 and be the champ is even further than Pachial went. And Pachial started out almost that light. And you saw how much praise we have for Pachial. But Pagall brought their crowd too down. Like y'all's another one, boy, they're going to line them up or with Pacchio over there when he's fighting.

Yeah, so I'm going on a record. Bud is the go out of all of all the fighters. Okay, Kim. I don't go against Floyd. There's nobody better than Floyd for me. Bud could be pretty close, but for me, it's nobody better than Floyd Mayweather, just my personal opinion.

And I know Bud's argument is that every time they say he don't fight somebody, he beat the shit out of him you know what I'm saying oh you ain't fight he said he told Canello that shit because Canello was like who'd you fight who'd you fight

he's like I'm gonna start a motholder you next since I ain't fight nobody you're the person that that uh that I proved since I haven't fought nobody

you'll be the name and even Errol Spence should he did Errol Spence and no disrespect that's I haven't seen eros since no disrespect

you know what I'm saying so but for me it's just about like I said and I know this is not but fault for me but is in an era

where the names aren't as popular that he beat and that ain't his fault that that's when his birth certificate is you know what I'm saying somebody even like Roy Jones

you sit there and I talk about Roy Jones the best some people or at least he was pound for pound the best at a time but the question is who did Roy fight James Tony

and when they were young, he fought Bernard Hopkins when they went when John Hopkins was young and not, not when they're as proud fighters. But I'm asking y'all, because y'all both new boxing, who's a notable name that James Roy Jones fought? And I know what you're saying, and you're right. You're right.

If you're in error. All I'm asking, Mike, is a name. You're in an era when we do the name, Mike. That's what I'm saying, because there's nothing to pop off. There's nothing to pop. So there was no great fighters that we measured him against that he beat in his era. You're right.

So Sugar Ray beat Thomas Herr and it beat Huron and Marvin Haglet. And we saw those fights. Right. So we were able to say, and then Roberto Doreen, you know what I mean? We saw those fights. That's what made. And that's why Bud beating Carnello, Canello, that starts lifting him up because we got those names out there. So yeah, right.

I'm still trying to think on who would be. I'm still thinking of that. Look, I'm just looking at a couple when Floyd, and this one, he's 30. Aiden, though, you got Oscar Delaware, you got Ricky Hayes, got Juan Marquez, who called him out. Shane Mosul. Juan Marquez was a bad boy now. Yeah, yeah, but Marquez, Floyd retired.

He's, Marquess stuck on the around to her, I won't fight Floyd. Floyd, Floyd car retirement, beat the shit out of him. Miguel Cotto, Canelo Aalaj, Madonna, like, Pachial. These are the names that when, and I'm not, like I said, it ain't Terrence Crawford fault. But when you actually look at their resume, you'd be like, so who did you fight? Nigger, who did not fight?

That's a question you asked for Floyd. So I'm not mad at anybody who has Terrence Corford as to go, bro. I'm not mad at it. Just for me, I actually seen it. Even Terrence Crawford, like I said, that's his biggest grape that people are saying, who did I fight, who did I fight? And ain't your fault the niggas was trashed during your run

and not saying you didn't fight good fighters. but last night you solidifies your name at least to be in the conversation of Cameron on the Mount Rushmore. It's about who you want to put up there. But for me, I don't go against Floyd. He goes 50 and no. Didn't duck nobody.

Not only that, if you really want to look at it, you can look at Mayweather as like a stuffed curry. When you say, change the game, niggas wasn't trying to get all this money. You know, all these fighters don't fight each other no more. All the good fighters, that's good. They don't fight each other because they don't want to lose because Floyd ain't lose. They don't want no old on their record.

Once you get an old on your record, you can't do what Floyd did. They want to make the money Floyd made. You just said his niggins still waiting to cut Floyd $150 million checks for more pay-per-views probably, and they want the money that Floyd got. To me, he's a transcendor for the evidence here now, and I'm not even necessarily saying that's a good thing. He kind of fucked it up because niggas won his money, won his lifestyle. Now we're not seeing the fights.

To get niggas today. But that's why you got to give Netflix some love because they'll bring, they want epic events. Right. Think about this, and I was talking about it with them last night. They started out, they started out by giving you what you want when you want it, right? Me growing up, I wanted to watch the Jefferson, 9 o'clock wins. The boy, be your butt right here.

I sat my butt right there at 9 o'clock. Netflix comes in and says, you can stream this thing when you want to. You ain't got to be that 9 o'clock. Absolutely. So now they get out of, they get back into the TV business. in order to now make you come up and show up at a certain time, like they say, that event has to be epic. That's why we get a Carnello in a bud fight.

You know, that's the part of it now that comes in. Because like the Logan Paul, some of these guys can get that money because their attention is epic. You know, it's not just about you winning and being on the old side. You can get that kind of attention and make that job. kind of money right okay well congratulations again to terence crawford we're going to go to break we return we got a whole lot of football to get into so don't go ahead we got to talk them chiefs she's yeah yeah i got to talk them chief boy hey told by somebody getting knocked out okay

Welcome to feeling like a option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe she's tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Oh dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about

She want to be free Welcome back Now let's get into our underdog Picks of the Day. Today, the Chargers will play the Raiders. Underdog has Justin Herber at one and a half passing touchdowns. Do you have him higher or lower Mace?

I'm going higher. Cam? Yeah, they can try to bring up Justin Herbert last week. Niggins act like I said. F-day moms. Yeah, Justin Herbert, you bugging care. So that kid is good when he's healthy, man. I'm going higher, man.

Okay, Ladd-McConkey's at 72 and a half receiving yards. You have him higher, lower. We'll go lower. Yeah, lower. Okay, and Ashton, Jentee is at half a rushing and receiving yard. Do you have them higher or lower Mace? It's one of those things. When Underdog does this, they know something.

So I'm going to go higher. Okay, Kim. What is it? Ashton Genties at half a rushing and receiving yard. That's crazy. You look good last week. Go higher. Okay.

Make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. It's time to talk about the. Chiefs they're owe and two for the first time in the Patrick Mahomes era after losing 20 to 17 to the Eagles, Mike. What went wrong for the Chiefs? For a lot of years, we've been talking about the Chiefs and what they're losing and they're not replenishing these areas, you know. Oh, they won without Tyreek here.

Okay, they won without Tyree Keel. Don't think this is going to just keep happening, right? And now teams are catching up. with him. And I'm telling you, I watch his game, and you know, you guys know, I love Travis Kelsey. And I saw him on the sideline at one point. It was frustrated, and everybody was frustrated

because everybody's talking. I saw him, and I read his lips. He threw something. He said, I'm tired of these. I read his lips. And I said, I remember saying that when I really felt the dynasty slipping away, you know what I'm saying? You feel you're trying to hold it

together. And everybody here don't have the same grip that you have on it because they hadn't been here the whole while some of these guys are just getting here they don't understand the standard and you're watching this you're watching all your hard work

go down the drain now this is before it's a talent thing it's just a talent thing they find more talent they find more talent now this is becoming a mental thing when you lose your last three

And the Chiefs have lost their last three And remember now They came out of losing the Super Bowl The way they lost the Super Bowl Saying this ain't going to happen again So you know They went in all season saying We put our foot down to say it's going to happen again

We're going to make it right And then you start out O and 2 So yeah This is more mental than anything You know They get the Giants this week And you know If the Giants

Well If the Giants get any way Close to them dog Listen, oh, the Giants beat them after the Cowboys beat the Giants. I will be just, you, Mace, you wouldn't even allow me to come on this. You're almost lost to the Giants yesterday, man. I got nothing to do that. But they lose to the Giants.

They lose to the Giants. We beat them. In the end, all it's going to say is when. That's what it's going to say in the end. That's what we got to do. And that's what we got today. I know y'all ain't trying to tie. They're 0 and 3.

Oh, and three in the last three. That's what we are right now. We'll get to the Cowboys who won in O in the last one. But we'll get to the O and three. Well, I'm speaking to my agent right now. We're thinking about moving Title Town. We're in serious consideration. We're going to have to move it, you know.

It's nothing personal to the Chiefs, you know. Sometimes every now and then. Makes you leave in your team? Every now and then you got to move. Come in, Nick. Come in. Take on, brother. Every now and then, you got to move the team. You got to move it where it need to be.

I'm just saying when it comes to the chiefs, it's not just their own two. They're losing to the people that beat them in the championship. So if there was ever a team to come back and play strong against, this would be the team. It was a close game. You know, it didn't matter. It was a close game because the way we lost in the championship,

you would have to come back and redeem that game. Forget even the first week, the second week. And I just think they're highly distrable. When you think about a championship team, you know, you got to score 30 points or higher. And you can't go scoreless two quarters, especially as Patrick Mahones. You can't do it. And Pat being your leading rusher, you know, Travis Kelsey being your leading receiver. You haven't replenished the talent.

Let me down, man. It was the over and under if you were going to say title terms on the move here, bro. Oh, man. Boy, fuck the better. I'm saying. What was the parley? That you would say Title Town's a room?

First of all, the YouTube streets, they honor you. They said the Title Town is two and over every show that you're going to use the word title town. And Nick said, give me the one on the,

if he says it's on the move. So I'm just saying, like you know in the comments. It's all type of Titletown bet. You're going to use it at least one or twice on the YouTube streets. And Nick took the bet with me. I said he ain't going to do it, man.

And I lost, man. You should have told me. Now, I don't want to cheat. I didn't want to cheat, man. I was trying to call your phone, but you wasn't picking up, man. I paid Nick on camera, so you ain't have to say I had to pay him laying.

I'm bad, man. Yeah, tighter town got to be on the move. We can be a team, a organization that's biased, you know. The rules go for everybody. So just so people know, no matter where you are, it's subjective, you know. I can't. Whatever. Yeah.

See, I got to do it this Friday's a week, Mike. She's saying shit. The Chief say shit, man. Listen, man, me and Mike was talking before the show or sometime you break this chemistry up for whatever reason. You get your ring and then you want the money. You get the money you want the ring or whatever. But I see the frustration that he was talking about with Travis Kelsey.

I've seen that frustration on the sideline. It started at the end of last season. But yesterday's game with Tyree Kille. Now, if I think Tyree Kille was on this Chief's team right now, I don't think they were talking about the problems they have. You got to think about this. Travis Kelsey is not a spring chicken. He's not going to be moving the same way he was four or five years ago.

Not saying it's over for him, but he can't be a primary receiver. I know their primary receiver is hurt right now. Pacheco came back. He's not running the ball like they used to run the ball. They're not getting the ball down the field. And for Patrick Mahomes to end up with his 187 yards. And then the intertso as well, you know, who do you black? blame that on. Do you blame it on Kelsey not catching the ball or not being ready? And then

that kind of helps them lose the game. They're not getting the ball down the field. I'm talking about the Chiefs. And what we keep coming accustomed to saying, even Mike, myself, I don't even count what you have to say about the whole thing. I think they'll find a way. That's what we're saying, ADV. If anybody could do it, ADV, you could do it. No, no, you got to realize if anybody could do it any of you. It's been two weeks. It's been three games. Andy Reid is not doing it. And I'm not saying that Andy Reid can't do it. You know better than I do, Mike.

But I just don't understand, and I get people going for their money. But when you have great chemistry, like Eric Banami, Bianami, if I say his name wrong, great offensive coordinator for the Chiefs when he was there. You want to go get a head coaching job in Washington. Then you want to go, I forget where he went after that. Now he's missing. Where is he at? Yeah.

Do you know? Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You got a great situation, Tyreek Hill. You got a great situation, Eric Bander me. Now, I want to be a head coach. Now, I want $282 million. And then when the winner isn't there, you get frustrated, but you got your money.

You got what you want it. You want to be a head coach. Oh, you find out that's a little harder being a head coach than you want it to be. Then you have to end up not being a head coach. coach and take a whatever job you can get. And now you've been like, damn, I could have just stayed with the chief so we could have kept this thing going and won it. These are the choices you make.

But I thought this game was really good defensively. You know, sometimes they don't have to always be a shootout. Even though you see Patrick Mahomes, you want them to go for 300 certain yards. Jaylon Hurts didn't have a lot of yards. He just broke 100 yards. But defensively, this game was a really good testament on both of the defensive if you want to ask me. And it didn't have to be a shootout.

But Philly Previll, shout out to Philly. Shout to the champs, the real title town. So I have a question for you guys on the other side because there are, yeah, the real title town? Yeah. I was, I'm sorry. Hey, I'm like Don King. Pause.

I'm leaving with the winner. It doesn't matter to me, killer. I'm leaving with the winner, champ. That's a good one. That's a good couple of them right there that's dog. King said, I walk in with the winner and I leave out with the winner. Noted. Tight of town, baby.

Noted. Okay, so on the Eagle side, I feel like, especially on social media, a lot of people are trying to kind of downplay Jalen Hertz saying, you know, he's playing so well because of his team. How do you feel about that? Do you actually feel like Jalen Hertz is really good, or do you feel like his team just plays the biggest part in that? Because you know people are going to go back and forth regardless.

Right. Well, listen, the team always. plays apart. And you're, yeah, as your quarterback, you better lift your team up. And A.J. Brown made some catches today. That one-hander, that was, that wasn't anything that Jalen Hirsch did. That was some things that he did. But that's part of football.

That's part of football. So, yeah, I don't know. I like that he lifts his guys up, man, and put them up. People have an issue with it. It's playing quarterback is not just about dropping. back anymore and throwing for three, four, five hundred yards. We've skirted that now.

That's gone. The man has to play quarterback the way he plays it. And some of those throws that you see him throw, he's not going to have the arm of Joe Burrow. He doesn't have that. He doesn't have that arm. But Joe Burrow doesn't have the things that he has

his assets too. And they're great assets put in the concept of what they're doing. You know, those read options if he puts that ball in that running back, you got to look at that mix and see if he's handing that ball off or so if he's taking out and running the round.

And when you're wasting your time looking, he doesn't pull it out and he doesn't have to thread a needle because you're watching the ball. And you see what I mean? It's great for his system. So we got to move past wanting people to play the game like we want people to play the game and let people play the game

that's best for their skill. set their team and them winning, and he is certainly doing that. I don't think he's, I don't think Jalen Hurst is playing any different than Russell Wilson used to play when he was at Seattle. He was surrounded with a lot of weapons, and he was just getting the job done. I don't know why it's so different when it comes to Jalen Hurts because he's doing the exact same thing. He's running the ball.

He's passing it when it's necessary. He's just playing smart, and he's not getting in the way of his team. Sometimes you're loaded with so much talent that you get in the way of the success of the team trying to prove you can play when really to be a chairman on this team, we just need you to do X, Y, and Z. And he's playing his part to the T. So I hate when I hear quarterbacks that didn't win say, oh, he's just a game manager. No, he's a championship quarterback.

And sometime to win on a team, you got to take a lesser role. It doesn't mean that you're not capable. I'm quite sure. there's people that we said down with a different role. A different role. A different role. It's a lesser role. Because it's not a lesser role.

It's just a different role. Yeah, you know what I mean? He's not going to be Tom Brady. And trust me, if Tom Brady can run like him, he would. He would run too. That's the part that always trips me out. You think, paid many, wish he could run. But what we want to be, we want to see quarterbacks like that.

And it's just, it's not, it's not real. And it's not today's game. because them jokers on the end. Michael Parsons runs a four-three. You think you can sit, you can't get them old white guys just sitting back there and more they're going to get killed. They'll get killed now. The game has changed.

Everybody has to be able to move. And that title town mentality is necessary to be on a championship team. You have to be able to pick your role, not even a lesser role, like you said, but a different role. Because some people that don't take that role, they end up being the superstars

but never get a ring, right? Because they wasn't willing to do what was necessary that had a confetti falling on them, but that's their choice. Right, trying to throw the ball in their zone so you can get the credit. That's what they kind of accused their and Rogers off a couple of times. You could have dumped that ball off right there,

but you could have handed it off, but you wanted to get the credit, and now you didn't get the championship, stuff like that. No, I think Mace hit the nail on the head is that you do what you got to do to make your team win. Yeah. I don't need five. 500 yards from you passing.

I don't need you to do anything outside of what you're doing to help us win. Jaylor Hurts won two Super Bowls. You lost one and won one, right? Yeah. How long have you been to leave? Four years? Five years. Right, right, right.

Half his career, he's been in the Super Bowl. Right. You know what I'm saying? So he's doing what the, like I said, I can't even add on more to what Mace said. It's the same thing, like for instance, right? I'm just using a basketball terminology. You go to state warriors. You get Kevin Durant.

Everybody's game is dumbing down. That's just that. We have Kevin Durant now. And even Kevin Durant, he had to dumb his game down. And I don't mean it in a IQ form. A different role. I need it for everybody to be on pace for us.

What do we have to do to win a championship? We may not need Kevin Hart to score 40, I'm pardon me, Kevin Durant to score 41 points. We don't need 50 points from Steph Curry. You get us 22, Draymore, you get us to 14 rebounds. I may only need 11 points a night. But you knew who was going to win the championship because everybody played their part.

And I think that you're 100% Mason, even though I don't really like agreeing with you much. But I just think that that's, everybody plays their position on Philadelphia. You even look at Saquan Barkley, you know, he hasn't had a breakout game this season, but he's doing what he needs. necessary for them to win.

22 carriers, 8 8 yards. This isn't how Sequan started last year. But who knows, he's still got a breakout game. But fuck that. If they win, they win, and that's what matters. For sure. Okay. The Cowboys had a 40 to 37 overtime win against the Giants.

Mike. How did you feel about the Cowboys performance? You know, so funny, because I really, I was happy with the victory. But, man. Oh, my. That peek in valley I had to ride. You know, going up, and I said last week, you know, this week will tell me a great deal. You had to ride.

Up and down. My eyes are you, you know. Peace and Sally. That's a crazy. All right, all right, all right. Okay, look, what I mean by all of that. I was happy with the victory. I was happy with the victory.

Funny, I left last, what, game, game one, but they lost to the east. He goes like, man, I feel okay. I felt good by the loss. I don't feel bad about this victory. Now, I don't know if it's, I do know why. I do know why. First of all, you let Russell Wilson throw for 2,000 yards. And he threw all 2,000 right down the seams.

It was like they had a wall where the defense couldn't go down the seam or stop them or something. I don't know what it was. It blew my mind because Russell Wilson hadn't played like that since he was winning Super Bowls, you know. So you were saying, and then I thought, okay, maybe it's just the Ron Blan's not playing. You know, but some of those plays were made on Trevonne Diggs, you know, and then you see what Michael Parsons not being there

and the kind of time that Russell Wilson had to make all of those plays. But in the end, they did find a way to win that game. And it's coach's first win, so I want to congratulate him, Coach Shottonheimer on getting his first win. And it was a fight. It was a fight. So I got to take out, okay, you get the victory, and it was a fight. There's great things you can learn in that as we move forward

and get ready for week three. But yeah, you got to be happy with victory number one for Coach Shottonhammer. I don't care about y'all. You were shitting on Coach Shon. You were all by the same. He was just in Coach Shal Mahler when you were in a high. Yeah. Like, who is this coach?

Yo, what are, why are you hiring and something? Yeah, I'm just saying last year when you're hiding, Mike. You was too flaky. You were too flaky. I don't even know how to say the nigga hired. I don't even know how to say the nigga. Coach John Dhaber. Yeah, you was dissing him and you was mad about the hire.

Now you're congratulating them. You cool with the nigger? No, no, I am. I talk with him. I talk with him. I have met with him. I have chat with him. And, you know, it's that we smoothed over some things.

I like his approach. I really do like it's proof. I like that he even called me in to come have those conversations. I really do. You know what I mean? And it talks about wanting to bring people around and not make it so much where we're competing, but stacking on one another. So I do like that approach because he's pulling yesterday in and saying this is the standard. We don't want this to hover over you guys, but we want this to be the standard.

So I like how this. Now the Cowboys got a standard. I just need this work. Yeah, they got a standard. I said it a long time ago. What's the standard, Mike? Because I don't know the standard. Well, you mean what's the standard?

The standard is what Drew Pearson did, what I did, what do you mean? So we're trying to get to the standard. Mike, they've never been at that standard since y'all left there, Mike. You look like y'all about to go in that kind of a spell. This is what you're on me right now. You're about to figure out of your own thing. You're about to hit the same kind of smell right now. That's what you're living there.

I know you. You're talking about you. Exactly. You know, we got a victory today. I'm going to take it. It wasn't like I wanted him. But I got to take them, boy, this is it. I feel.

You got to take those mysteries, man. Yeah, I would say, you know, I mean, starting off, we got to start with Russ. That Russ was bawling, you know. Russ was cooking, man. But I think if you get 450 yards and you lose, this is exactly what we're talking about. You got to know what's necessary for you to win. Sometimes it may not be for you to get 450 yards. You might have to modify that and put that, pause, that energy somewhere else so the team can win.

Now, when you look at Dallas, I mean, I thought you was going to bring up C.D. Lamb. Did you have a conversation with him? Well, C.D. Played. He played. Well, he played. Well, he played well, put him under 12 yards. You pulled him to the side. You talked to him. Well, listen, CD, when I saw what he did, you guys saw him talking about, man, I dreamed about those moments, man. That hurts me more than anything. I really felt that.

You could you imagine, dude, every day you lay. head the pillow, that's the play you want to make. You want to make that on opening night in front of the world. Yeah, so I knew his pain was great. And he showed up. The big thing today was to make sure you got George Pickens involved. And George Pickens put up like 69 yards, 6 to 8, 69 yards. And then he got that touchdown in the end, you know.

So he'll feel like, man, I'm here. I'm a part of this team. thought that was big going forward. Yeah, and another one was Ferguson. He played pretty decent, you know, and I don't know how to look at Dak Prescott because he's always right there, like always playing almost good enough but not quite elite, you know? What would you say to that?

You're right in this sense. When you think about this game and even all the games we watch today, you know, these games always come down to this little play, these little few plays in the fourth quarter. And the great ones tend to make those plays. And you can have great numbers, great stats, great

games won. But until you make those plays, you can't get in that greatest conversation. Because those are the plays that get you in the Super Bowl. And Dag hasn't made those plays. I agree with you that. He hasn't made those plays. And as a matter of fact, it is going the other way.

You know, remember the 49 is okay, we didn't get the ball snap in that crucial moment. You even had one, the other, the fourth down, the other, they said, hey, y'all yesterday, when they snapped the ball late, when they went for it on fourth down and then they got the delay game, you got to be able to make the plays late to be called the greatest. And, yeah, that's been absent from his set. Okay, Kim.

I disagree with both of you. First of all, every yard that Russell Wilson threw was needed. every yard of that 450 yards was needed that shit was a shootout so I'll dream with you last six lead changes in the fourth quarter I read you last segment when you're saying some people got to manage the game and you don't necessarily need that

the 450 yards was needed because the Cowboys was coming downscoring they would go down score he would go back to score Manleek child the Manleek neighbors that nigga came up and did his fucking thing definitely did his thing and I want to give Russell Wilson a shout-out

because you start with me we're playing with your name boss if you want to tell me shut the fuck up you can DM me but I'm going to take

full accountability that I was the first one last week playing with Russell Wilson name talking about I don't know if he had a good game since Sierra he's been with us he won the Super Bowl since he's been with her

niggins now don't get me more Giants fan Nick and all y'all niggins y'all don't know Jackson Dard might need to play all week Nick is saying that Russell Wilson was three seconds from losing his job

I think this game solidify him for at least three four weeks after what he performed yesterday like listen man you can sit here and say that the Giants lost the game and they did

but it was not Russell Wilson for it now over time his Russian Wilson, Floyd, threw an ill-advised interception. He's talking that out. But what the fuck is the same? Giants secondary is the worst secondary in all of football at any level. Junior high school, elementary, high school, college, arena football is no secondary worse in any football than the Giants, my nigga.

I can't, I can't, I posted that shit on Twitter or not Twitter on my Instagram. that the Giants defense just do not like Russell Wilson they can't like the nigga the nigga goes down you go down and get a fucking touchdown and I don't remember the time

like a minute 20 left was it? Yeah a minute 20 something like that I'm talking about after Russell Wilson threw the bomb to Malik neighbors

and they go up with my three points how much time was left on the clock a minute and some change that's that time me because it wasn't more than two minutes. It might not been a minute. Yeah, it was under.

It might have been under a minute. How are you going to let Dak Prescott go down and get you a field goal right now? Don't get it fucked up. It was 64-yard field goal. Right. It's crazy. It was crazy.

What, 40? It was 49 to win the game, right? No, I'm talking about before. You're talking about overtime. You're talking about overtime. You're right. It's 64, right? That was 64.

That was 64. So you like them get down the field to get to, now, I'm not going to like everybody. they make 64-yard field goals. But the fact that y'all can't even stop them to even get a field-go raise. If you're nice, nigga, make a 78-yard field goal. We're not going to get you in range. That's first and foremost.

So I want to give Russell Wilson a shout out. I know in overtime, you threw that interception, which made them go back and win, which was ill-advised. But you've been slinging the ball pours, the football really good the whole day. So I'm not going to discredit. I said pause murder So I don't want to discredit him

I think he had a fabulous game Even though a lot of people are mad at him About the interception Now I want to go back to Dack Prescott Because y'all are both correct on He's missing them big moments in them games And that's what's eluding him But the first two weeks

Of this season That's looking fucking good And I can't count I want to... He's Tony Romo I'm not saying he isn't But I'm saying, I'm just going off the season. I agree with you in the past of what he going off with.

But how many, I would love to know how many drop passes it's been. It's been several drop passes. I wouldn't almost say it's been double digits and drop passes in two weeks. He putting the ball in niggas, hands, paws, and then niggas is dropping it. What do you want him to do? And I'm not the biggest that Prescott fan in the world. I'm not going to say an act like I'm a fan of his, like I am Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. But the fact that he's balling this good the first two weeks,

I was very impressed last week. I was very impressed yesterday. I was like, yo, I can't really hate on him as much as I want because I don't got no problem spewing cowboy hate. You know what I'm saying? But he looked really good and niggas is dropping passes. Like you said, C.D. Lamson, they're talking about just the shit I dream about. Well, wake the fuck up.

Get on, man. He had 112 out there today, man. I didn't have more than Malik neighbors at a 167. Yeah, he bought to be the number two. And then went to El Robinson at 142 yards. The Giants looked good. That defense was suspect. And I was waiting to come here today

because like I was telling niggins' murder, you lost, you lost. And I was going to do the gritty across this shit. Because our quarterback got hurt, and we still won. But Mike saved the day. day for the panel up here that everybody's team didn't lose to get us in there. Well, y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Mike, it was a pleasure to. Mike, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you. Let me just say this before I go to now.

The Cowboys got better because we did decide today be a young clowny yesterday. I want y'all to know that. I got to throw that on it now. I know I was kind of homing, homing, homing, but on the little, Because if he give us anything that Michael Parson took out the dough, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. What we need, what the Cowboys needed now, the Cowboys needed, we're supposed to get some more pressure on the quarterback. And I don't know what he's been doing, but he can help us get there. So we just had to put that. Hey, yo, listen, first of all, no disrespect. Clownie was good a hundred and two years ago.

He was a free agent. That's how you got the name. Nobody signed them. Y'all like, yo, what Clownie doing? Where that thing? You're going to get seven, eight? He can go get seven and eight.

Clowning, he's using what he does. He just want to dip in, get him something, and get out. Like, he doesn't want to go through the whole process. Every team, he'll come in, he'll sign. Because sacks is so valuable. They'll give him $8, $10 million a year, and he'll give him eight or nine sacks, but he wants to come in after week one.

He doesn't want to go through training camp. I knew something was when one time I heard him say, yeah my mom and my lady told me to get up and go work out and so ooh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho you they're gonna tell you to get up and go work out then you got some self-motivation I was a clownie fan years ago I remember listen I remember him he's a freak of talent now listen I remember him in college they made him sit down they said nah you're gonna get hurt you're gonna be the number one pick

in NFL listen you don't even need to play but if murder I'm asking you man if he wasn't signed at the beginning of the season. Mike, I'm not going to argue with Mike because Mike no better than me talking about he don't want to go through train care. I'm telling you, that's what they do.

That's what he does. I'm not saying he doesn't ask some money now. Well, I'm saying it's this murder. It's sound like Nick was, niggins say, you're fine, and Nick, he'd been, he... Nick was at the White House. Yeah, Mike.

Mike, he's talking about the White House. I hope he comes in there play like them jokes that hung out at the White House. I hope he does do that. I hope he does. Let's do that. Yeah, it would be good.

Talk your shit. Well, again, Mike, it was a pleasure to have it. You could talk your shit because you won, so I know you're real happy, and I love that for you. And we're so glad that you were able to come and see. Hopefully more, I appreciate you. We're going to do this. We'll back more, man.

We will. I got me, so I just got me a little spot out here. I ain't you tell everybody that, but I guess I just did. Yeah. So, you know what I'm saying? We'll be around. Me and my sister, you know, we'll be around. Amazing.

Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. It'll drive.