IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN IS WORRIED ABOUT THE STATE OF THE COWBOYS & AYOOO JERRY JONES GOTTA CHILL!
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I'm chilling, man. It was a crazy weekend.
There was a lot of good games yesterday.
Well, you should be worried about is the Cowboys,
because the Ravens beat the Cowboys 28 to 25.
Now that I was heard about, that I was heard about.
Now I'm just I was just flat out hurt. I felt like a
guy leave man. I was like why has it hurt me like this? You know, like say okay, say you're
you know okay in your young days you're a player player you got plenty whatever you're hanging
around but you got that one. It's just that one, right?
And some goes down, or you go over there,
she got some other guy.
And it just hurts you in your heart.
You try to act cool, cause you're the player,
you know that.
I'm cool with it, man, I'm real cool.
But you know you feel that.
You know what I mean?
I just feel it, man.
God almighty, I can't take it.
Boy, I got it.
I was so disappointed with the way they play and I told you guys
I was concerned about that
I was concerned about them having about their ability to stop the run which they could not stop the run
I need it
Well, that's it
I needed that Prescott and I needed CD lamb to have one of those big days because it was going to be an offensive battle
and
And I found out other issues even on that side,
you know, Ravens were very physical with CD.
They kept pressing on them every which way.
They were very, very physical with them.
And the thing is, it knocked him off his game.
It knocked them off the game.
Here's the kicker, though, guys.
That's all you're gonna see now until you beat it.
That's what the NFL is.
Whatever grade you, you gonna get stuck in this grade
until you beat it.
Now everybody is going to play physical
and try to do the same things that the Ravens did to the TD.
And I'm saying, at least down the road,
I need the Cowboys
to start looking at bringing in a hitting that trade deadline to get some other
offensive weapon.
You're never going to fix that defense and stop in the run.
So you got to try to outscore teams.
So they got to try to make a trade somewhere and get another offensive weapon.
So to make sure that I'm hearing you correctly,
are you saying that the only offensive weapon
the Dallas Cowboys have is CD Lam?
Oh, right now, the only danger to anyone is,
yeah, CD Lam.
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
And I'm not saying those other guys can't make any plays.
They can make plays.
But as the games get bigger and the games get tighter,
that's the difference between the guys that make plays
and a championship.
Those other guys that know how to make plays
in pressure situations and win games is the difference.
Everybody's a football player and NFL player,
they can make plays. But when those pressure situations come on. Everybody's a football player and NFL player, they can make plays.
But when those pressure situations come on,
it's a different thing.
And the Cowboys are gonna need another,
another offensive weapon.
I thought Ferguson did good.
What do you think about him?
About Jake?
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
Yeah, I like Ferguson.
I like Ferguson.
And, but I'm talking about another bona fide wide receiver,
or certainly a young running back
to give him some help offensively.
Now you want a running back, huh?
We used to, we used to talk to him,
we talked two weeks ago, two weeks ago,
we used to, oh, Zeke is back with the crew,
he's with the family.
And he fits better better than anybody else.
Now they need a running back.
Yeah, now they need a running back.
Zeke has six yards.
Don't try that.
Don't try that.
That's what you say.
You said you'd rather have him more than Kamara.
You say, now he's with the team, he's better than Kamara.
Zeke has three carries for six yards today.
What I said was it is good that we got Zeke back.
We need Zeke back.
And I'm still happy we got Zeke back.
But because of this poor, poor rush defense,
you're going to have to have more weapons on offense.
That's what I said.
That is not the antithesis of what I said before.
It's an addition to what I said before.
It's not the opposite.
It's an addition.
I'm not sure who to believe more, him or YSL Woody.
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
This sounds like YSL Woody on the stand.
I'm not sure.
Once he start bringing out antithesis, I'm not sure, this sound like YSL, what do you understand?
I'm not sure.
He start, what, once he start bringing out antithesis,
alright, I'm not jacking nothing.
I'm not doing antithesis, I'm doing the word antithesis.
YSL Urban is crazy.
YSL Urban is crazy.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban.
YSL Urban. YSL Urban. YSL Urban. YSL Urban. YSL Urban. YSL Urban. Yo crazy man, yo crazy man.
I can't believe this.
When it come to those Cowboys man.
When it come to Cowboys, he gonna find all type of words man.
Listen bro, Zeke Elliott, I wasn't believing it two weeks ago when you said he was better than Kamora.
And he just, week after week he just showing us how he just dwindled away.
He has six yards today, three carries. It was pathetic, actually.
We got to see a little bit of Derek Henry
from the last two years that we haven't seen just yet.
Derek came back.
Yeah, yeah, this is the Derek Henry that we've been seeing
the last three, four years in Tennessee.
He looked like that guy today.
What I will say is this,
what I gathered more than anything else after this game,
because I thought the game was over in the third quarter,
is that Baltimore let the Cowboys score 19 points to zero
in the fourth quarter.
This thing turned out to be a little closer
than it should be.
And that gave me a cause to pause.
You can't let any team, let alone the Dallas Cowboys,
get 19 points in the quarter and you don't score.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, thank you.
What happened?
Sorry about that, sorry about that.
All right.
And they got 19 points in loss, it's crazy.
Yeah, but I would just, yeah, absolutely,
but I was just saying more about Baltimore's defense.
Yeah.
Like you cannot let that happen.
When you got the game sewn up,
you can't give up 19 points in the fourth quarter
and turn it into a three-point game.
I thought they played exceptional up until the fourth quarter.
And I was saying, man, don't let these motherfuckers
come back and beat y'all niggas,
because I don't feel like here, Mike.
I was sitting there at the end of the third quarter,
like, Mike, I'm rough.
Oh, my God, you would've heard it.
Yeah.
Listen, man, I'm watching you, and you'd have heard, like,
oh, no, what, boy? God boy, I would have come in and like,
I had it all planned too, right?
But I wanted to get on the bandwagon.
I wanted to get on it, you know what,
let me tell you how it is right now,
because you're watching and then you know,
this game's over, this game over.
And then they'll give you a glimmer of hope.
Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
And I gotta go to, I gotta get out of here, try to watch the game. I don't want to leave. And you know,
I, I, that's a banana in a tailpipe. I don't want to hear that stuff, well, we played pretty good.
We took it to the end and lost by three. You notice I didn't even bring that up. I didn't bring that
up because I know that's what a lot of people will say and I know if Jimmy Johnson was here
He would be swashing it now
They may take it in as some kind of soft for moral victory what we did come back and get it within three
Flush that down the toilet man. You don't out of here with that. It ain't completed, all of that.
Now, now, now, now, right around Wednesday,
since they play Thursday, yeah, this is a real quick one,
right around Wednesday, I'll be turning around
and saying to myself, and saying, you know what?
You know, Colorado and my great friend,
Deon Sanders, gonna give me something right here.
You know what I mean by this?
Because remember this, this is a parallel.
Colorado lost to Nebraska like this.
They jumped, Nebraska jumped out early,
scored all the points,
Colorado won the second half.
But then the next week, Colorado came back and won again.
So I'm taking inspiration from my man, Deon Stanley.
And I know God didn't.
I'm just saying.
Purcell, stop.
You gotta chill out, Purcell.
You gotta stop, man.
You following the same pattern.
You following the same pattern.
Hey, hey, hey, dog, listen.
That Colorado, I knew we were talking about that.
That Colorado game was insane.
First of all, real quick.
Real quick.
Colorado has one loss, all right?
Let's start with That Colorado game was insane. First of all, real quick, real quick,
Colorado has one loss, all right?
Let's start there.
Y'all have two, so y'all not following at the same time.
Let's start right there.
Different blueprint.
That's just a different blueprint.
They have one loss.
Secondly, Colorado finished the comeback.
If it wasn't an almost, they finished the comeback. If it wasn't an almost, they finished the comeback.
And listen, I spoke to Dion briefly last night, man.
Listen, bro, that game was amazing.
And see, we're gonna get back to this.
See what Mike tried to do was veer us off the Cowboys
or how great, so we'll take a second.
Shout out to, first of all, Travis Hunter.
I don't know, yo, fucking ridiculous, man.
Offense, defense, he don't, yo,
I don't even know what to say about Travis Hunter.
Chidor, I thought before he hit that last Hail Mary
when they caught it before they went in overtime,
whoever was the kid that dropped the pass right before that,
that last person who caught the pass saved him because he would have heard it all week. He put the ball right in his
chest and he dropped the ball. Yeah, yeah. And he dropped the ball, man. But listen,
man, I just, you know, we coming out to Colorado, we going to do the show out there, Mike, we
got to figure this schedule out. We got to get down to Colorado before the season's over.
Big shout out to Coach Prom. Like I said, we spoke briefly yesterday.
Shadour, Travis, Hunter, the rest of the crew,
that's how you come back.
That's how you complete a comeback.
Not with the Cowboys there.
So don't let Michael Irvin spin you
and try to act like they on the same path.
They didn't complete the comeback.
They're not on the same path as Colorado.
They lost two games already.
Colorado only lost one game. So we're not on the same path as Colorado. They lost two games already. Colorado only lost one game.
So we're not on the same path.
And you're not inspired by them either.
We're gonna take that away too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Colorado's problems was in the offensive line.
A lot of our problems in the defensive line.
There's a lot of parallels.
Now, and here's the ultimate cookie.
Let's dip it in the milk.
Now these issues, if Mike McCarthy don't get it right, and we see the parallel where Deon
did get it right, then maybe it is time to get Deon and Mr. Doerr in here then.
You see what I'm saying?
So here we're seeing the same kind of problems.
We see one man that fix it,
and we gonna see if the other man does.
And if he don't, we gonna get the man that does.
That's the game that I'm playing.
You playing checkers, I'm playing chess.
Well, let me ask you this, Y or something.
Look, they just gave back 60 million.
So they're gonna, per year, pardon me,
they're gonna get Dion and Shadour and the Cowboys,
at the Cowboys, which I would love now.
Now you might get me over there,
the Cowboy Nation if that happens.
That's the only way you'll probably get me
the Cowboy Nation, but you're talking about this possibly happening
if not next year in the next two years
because people forget Shadour got another year
because of COVID.
He could still go play another year after this year.
The question is, after giving-
Oh, he come on in and win that thing?
Yeah, yeah, no, don't get me wrong.
He come in and win that, he come in next year,
maybe, you know, and he can do, maybe,
a year on the bench, he'll just learn.
It's a different game here now, it's a different game.
And learn for a year, because then that's, boom,
that's probably all he's, you know,
I'm just saying if this thing falls down on the ground,
straight to the face, because Jerry,
he has to be panicking if that's the case.
Right now, trust me, they're worried right now,
even at one and two, you're worried.
You see Philadelphia completed and got it done today.
So you're running parallels and now you got the Giants.
At least it's a quick turnaround game for Thursday.
I know we gotta move on, but give me a second with Mike,
because his revolving door game, his revolving door game,
his spin cycle is crazy.
So you're telling me that Dion and Shadour
will have the patience to sit there
and watch DAC for a year, and if it's not going right,
not just watch DAC for a year,
let's say it's not going right,
like you say this year, it's not going right next year,
and he ends up going to the Cowboys.
The media alone, if it doesn't go right, will be...
First of all, the Dallas Cowboy media
has already won out this world.
But to have the Cowboys not winning,
and Shadour over there every week, week after week,
Cowboys are three and nine, they get like...
Ha!
No.
Yeah. Do you know what would happen?
Do you think that they're ready for that?
Cause man-
They would go crazy.
They would go crazy.
But we would have, we would have, you know,
a great lawyer takes the most recent cases
and put them on the table, right?
Right on the desk.
The most recent case-
What's a great lawyer? recent case, great lawyer. If I was the Johnny Cocker in
this, I would say things like, like, case in point, Carolina is not fine enough for playing that young man so fast.
You see what I'm saying?
He was the first pick in the draft,
but he went to a place and look at it now.
And they bench Bryce Young and in the end it don't,
the dinosaur comes in and they win a game.
How much did that hurt Bryce Young's stock?
Now people are saying, oh
maybe this kid really can't play because they put him out there too soon. See, Deon's
gonna protect his kid from that too. He's going to know this game is different. Now
look at all the banging up in there hitting, Shador's taking right now in college.
You don't want to come right in the league and have to take that. You want to
learn how to decipher these defenses
before you deal with that and have a long career.
A long career.
You know what I mean?
De'Anno might sit in them that one year,
that one year won't hurt,
and then he only have to play two
before he gets a new deal or, well, he'll be a rookie.
Probably actually, I couldn't feel it.
Well, listen, that's what I'm saying.
And this'll be my last point.
You got the final word after this.
Now let's say he does go to Dallas and Dak plays good
and Dallas makes it to a NFC Conference Championship game
since the last time you played.
Cause they haven't been to one since you played.
You know that right?
Right.
Not a Superbowl.
Right.
Not a Superbowl not a Super Bowl,
an NFC conference championship,
they haven't been to in 30 years.
Let's say that that happens.
Okay.
What is, what is Shadour gonna do now?
Cause they be like, well, we was one step away.
What do you mean?
So you gonna sit on the bench two years?
Oh!
What's gonna happen? What's gonna gonna sit on the bench two years? You're gonna be happy.
You're gonna be happy.
Listen, you can't call a great situation a problem.
That's a great situation.
You're telling me I got a guy that finally cracked the code
and got to an NFC championship
and I got a young guy who I know
and believe can take me to a championship.
That's a great problem.
That's a great problem.
Now, are they different?
Are years time different?
Yeah, that's right.
Hey, in another year or so, it's Deon Sanders.
You just-
If he's turning this thing around,
he gonna keep this on and come up off of that.
It's just reality.
There's no problem.
I gave you 17 scenarios and none of them is a problem.
None of them is a problem.
No, no, no.
Fake A.
Fake A.
You go just like that.
The real kicker here is we got to make sure, like, because you bring it, there's going
to be a ton of pressure, a ton of pressure to put Shador Sanders on that football field
when he get in the NFL right away. Right away. And I just want to, I'm just telling y'all somebody
better look at that Bryce Young case because it's different at this level.
It is, you know what I mean, and it can ruin you and mess you up. And I know Deon
knows this and he won't allow. It'd be a great thing if he could sit here. If he
could sit here. I'm not saying I can't eat
Just be good enough to come in and play though. Listen man. Do you don't listen?
Do you
Oh my god, y'all cannot blow this. This is a great opportunity. I don't be on the sea. The honestly, you know what? Bring Dion up here next week. Next next next next next
Monday morning. I'm gonna see if coaches available
My calling all the kids my calling all the kids I want to help the kids, you know what I told him I said, you know how, you can throw them fitting.
You can help to do what you want.
Mike, Mike stay on course, Mike.
Wide-shell Irvin.
Let's get back to Wide-shell Irvin.
Yeah.
Okay.
So real quick, before we go to the next part, right?
After the loss, Dak was telling reporters,
jump off if you want.
How do you guys feel about Dak saying that?
Are you ready to jump ship, or that's never gonna happen?
How are you feeling about what Dak had to say?
Right now, I just wanna see it.
I don't wanna hear no more. I let everybody else just want to see it. I don't want to hear no more.
Let everybody else talk.
That's it.
I mean, everybody in that locker room,
I just want it performed.
That's all.
We've been talking and talking and talking.
And let us, we can do all the talk.
But you guys in the locker room, I don't want
to hear anything.
I just want, I want them to be quiet like Shannon Sharp was on that tape.
I don't want to hear.
You know, that's how I want that kind of quiet.
I don't need that noise.
I need performance.
And then, you know, yeah.
So, yeah.
OK, here first.
OK, moving along, because it the discussion continues.
So Jamie Foxx ended his live after Jerry Jones started talking about players.
Me, I don't know.
I said he looked pretty good right there.
He showed balance, five foot nine and a half,
210 pounds, nine and three inch hands,
eight and a half inch dick.
Then Jamie immediately cut the live.
After seeing that clip, what's going on over there, Mike?
That's Mike, man.
Yeah, it's his homie.
Yeah, Jerry Jones put him on a private.
Let me ask, and this is super duper pause, super duper pause.
Do y'all got to get your shit measured before y'all join
the Cowboys?
Pause.
What the fuck?
Pause, like what part of the game is that?
Oh my god, man.
Oh my god, Jerry. Oh my God.
Jerry is the Django.
Jerry running the Django.
Jerry the Django is crazy.
Jerry the Django.
Oh man, why you got so urban?
Wait, wait, wait.
Why so urban in Jerry the Django?
It's crazy.
The first thing I gotta ask y'all is,
firstly, do we know this to be,
I did see that, do you know that to be true?
It, that's AI, it must be AI generated.
That's what it must be.
You don't even know what's real nowadays.
What was Jerry talking about?
Mike, I figure.
Mike, man. My man's hair looks like that, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Hey, I have never ever had any conversation about another man's side in no manner in no
way.
And I don't even know that we go! Let's go, YSL!
Let's go out of here.
Niggas said, leave it alone.
Move on.
Leave it alone.
Mike said, leave it alone.
You got baby all you want, you.
I don't know how that would go anywhere, man.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was a good one, Mike.
That was good. So we That was a good one. That was a good one, Mike.
That was good.
So we'll just move along from that.
But it definitely wasn't AI.
I'm just having fun.
I'm just having fun.
I'm already apologizing to Mika.
I'm telling him I'm just having fun with y'all.
It's y'all fault.
It's your fault.
It's your fault.
Well, Stet analyzed it. You got it. You got it.
Well, Stet analyzed it.
She said it wasn't AI.
It was not.
That's why he ended the live immediately.
But you know, I'll let you say what you think.
So Jamie hit the end button.
Yeah, he cut it off immediately.
Who's live was it?
Jamie Foxx.
Oh, not good.
He said, uh-uh.
Yeah, we, hey listen.
We got other questions to be asking here. And I, here, and I love him like I don't know what,
but boy, that player's cold right there that he just broke.
Like, what you doing, man?
Dude, you gonna put on a live and you gonna tell us?
You know we got dead bodies all around here?
What are you doing?
You know we got dead bodies?
We may be saying this,
but they don't be turning on no lives around me.
I mean, I'll be honest with you,
my opinion, that's what got Antonio Brown
kicked out of Pittsburgh.
Having live on at halftime or the end of the game
or whenever it was, and Mike Tomlinson went crazy about that.
Yeah, yeah, so I dig that.
And then got him kicked out of Oakland.
Remember when he talked about, when they said,
oh, he was live screaming,
talking to his agent.
And then when he got the trade, jumping around,
I was like, man, that's, hey, man, come on, man.
This is, yeah, yeah.
Two days before he got that 30 million guaranteed.
Yeah, he said, fuck it.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, and to be honest,
live is becoming a problem for everybody
because we saw Shannon Sharp
and then even Marlon Humphrey went live
and put it on Lamar Jackson.
He said, you shouldn't even be doing a live right now,
even though they beat y'all.
So it's been causing a lot of problems for people.
I swear, I went to, I swear I went to the funeral
and my niece grabbed my phone.
I'd never done it live in my life
and she went to live, right?
And you know, the funeral was showing the family
having fun.
Then I get my phone back, I put it in my pocket.
Everybody start going, me you still don't live?
Woof, woof.
I thought I was going to die.
You know what I'm saying?
I thought my ass broke.
Any other place though could have been.
But man, I never going on a live.
That was the only time I don't even know how to do it
because that would scare me to death.
Yeah, it's stressful.
So don't recommend if you don't know how to use live.
Okay, so moving along.
Justin Fields leads the Steelers to a 3-0 start
after a 20 and 10 win versus the Chargers.
How long do you guys see these victories lasting, Mike?
Let me tell you what I said to Coach.
Him, I almost texted him too when it was going down,
I almost hit you with, when he got the turnover.
It's because I was telling everybody,
hey, he can keep the job as long as he don't
turn the ball over. Yeah. You know, Mike Tumlin, it's because I was telling everybody, hey, he can keep the job as long as he don't turn the ball over.
You know, because Mike Tomlin, he's defense coach,
he just don't want you to turn that thing over.
So when he turned it over, I said,
oh, he just cracked the dough.
You know what I mean?
He just cracked the dough.
Russell Wilson started doing it.
Right, right, right.
But he had finished up that game pretty good now.
You know what I mean?
Mason played down the stretch.
So yeah, I think, I think Mike told me to ride this out.
You go three and oh, you can't take him off the field
right now.
You say Russ needs one more week to get healthy.
Look, I wouldn't, until we lose, not even one loss is going to get him off the field
for me.
It would have to be a couple losses.
He ended up with 245 yards.
He did have the interception, but he did have a touchdown.
To me, this was more about the charges.
And congratulations to the Steelers.
You see status here.
Steeler up here.
The whole studio is wearing Steelers jerseys around here.
Everybody came in all of a sudden.
He's got a 90's.
Yo Nick, I don't know if you can see.
I don't even know if you had a jersey, you got a jersey.
They got wide and whole stuff.
I did not know this nigga was here.
This nigga laffy over here with the throwback Steelers jersey on, man.
Listen, that comes in with, listen, anyway.
Congratulations to the Steelers.
To me, this is more about what they're gonna do
with Justin Herbert, because the last,
well the first three games, it seems like they're,
don't get me wrong, the running was doing good,
the first two games, but they're using Justin Herbert
as a game manager.
I'm looking at the stats here,
and he only threw the ball 18 times.
12 for 18, he had 125 yards, 101 touchdown,
no exceptions.
What the fuck?
I mean, I know I'm not gonna sit here
and question hardball's decisions or how he moves.
And I think he's a great pro coach
and a great college coach.
And I think he's a player coach more than anything else.
But yo, you know you got one of them niggas, right?
What is this game management shit
you're doing with Justin Herbert?
Let that nigga go, pause.
Like I don't understand, Mike,
what's your assessment of this,
him not getting a pass attack the first three weeks?
Right, and you know,
and certainly I was talking about this
with some people and I was saying,
this is what hardball does.
And it's not just what he needs to do with the quarterback,
it's what he's trying to do with the whole team.
He's setting a mentality
that we're going to play physical football.
We're not throwing the ball around,
we're going to play physical football.
Now, if he could set that mentality
and then add Justin Herbert,
oh, then he'd add something.
Because he's saying,
Justin, now we're going to attack every game
and make sure we give you support.
We're going to have people up in this line of scrimmage
because they're going to be thinking run.
And now we're going to open up that secondary for you.
He came in with so much hype
and you know about his capabilities and ability.
And he, we want to match him up against Patrick Mahomes.
Coach Harbaugh saying,
I'm gonna lose that fight all the time.
Let me get you at the run game,
like the Tennessee Titans who used to be Patrick Mahomes,
who knows how to beat them
because they were running the ball a lot.
Let me give you a kind of a good run game like that,
then use you sparingly and correctly
to take over and beat the Patrick Mahome.
And there's nothing wrong with starting off like that.
That's how Tom Brady started off.
And the more you continue to learn, the more I spoon feed you and give you, that's how
you grow a young quarterback.
I think he's doing a great job.
And that's what he said, that's the approach. And Quinn Johnson, that young receiver they got from TCU,
scored a couple touchdowns last week
and scored touchdowns this, today.
I mean, they're building that connection,
but it runs off that run game.
J.K. Dodgers and all those boys in that run game.
That's what he said, a mentality.
Well, listen, I wouldn't disagree with you, Mike,
and that's why we got you up here for your knowledge,
but that shit ain't worked this week.
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with that.
Yeah, because the thing about it is this,
and listen, I'm not opposing to what you say
because I never looked at it that way,
and that's a good way to look at it.
But what I would say is this,
when you're seeing you're not scoring in the second half,
because all their points came, they had seven points in're seeing you're not scoring in the second half, because all their points came,
they had seven points in the first quarter,
three points in the second quarter,
third quarter, fourth quarter, then score.
We have to have a backup plan
to get some points on the board.
If the running game isn't working.
That's what I was about to say.
It sound like when Philadelphia.
Justin Herbert got hurt though.
Yeah.
Justin Herbert got hurt. Yeah. And you know,
and then they really couldn't, couldn't, couldn't, can use like,
well, and let me just tell you why they lost. Now, when I say it were,
he build the mentality,
they played the people that lives on the mentality.
You see what I'm saying? That's physical, physical over there.
They've been that way forever
So, you know, you're trying to make these guys go in there beat those old linings. No, no
Wasn't going to happen, but I do like his approach Mike
Why not why not have harbor do both of them at the same time like some you say nicely like let
do both of them at the same time like simultaneously like let
Let Herbert go out there and get some points and then turn it into a running game or a vice versa
Let them do the running game and then let them get some points because when you're trying to make it just
Solely like we're gonna take this process
That process has not worked if you think about some of the quarterbacks that came in and did phenomenally well whether it was Brady
It was the moment he got that start. I mean he got took over for blood. So he ran when you look at um
What's the young guys? CJ
He did he did well right away
You looking at Pat Patrick Mah my homes, he did well right away. So it seems like that old school mentality is, is not how the last couple
of great quarterbacks have been introduced.
What do you think about that?
Oh, wait, wait, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, my home set behind, uh,
Alex Smith, Alex Smith, Alex Smith.
He sat behind Alex Smith.
He had a quarterback. Yeah, Alex Smith. Alex Smith. He sat behind Alex Smith. He sat behind Alex Smith.
He had a whole good year.
They put him in sparingly towards the end of that year.
He got him some reps, but he got a chance to see what an NFL football feel is like.
Now, look at this.
How long has Justin Herbert been in the league?
How long is this?
Fifth, sixth year?
How long has he been in the league? You just got to know what's fourth year, fifth year? How long has he been in the league? How long is this, fifth, sixth year?
How long is he?
Cause we just got to know what's fourth year, fifth year?
How long has he been in the league?
The approach you're talking about taking,
every coach he's had has taken that approach.
And every coach he's had ain't coaching him anymore.
You see what I'm saying?
Every coach he had has taken that approach.
And every way he had is not coaching him anymore.
That's why Coach Harbaugh said,
hey, I'm not gonna do the same thing
and expect the different results like all the other chumps.
He's a brilliant dude.
So the other coaches was chumps?
Yeah, that's what his wife said.
Hey, listen.
Hey.
You ain't say that, Mike.
I ain't saying that.
Your charges fired him.
He's saying that.
Jump your ass out of here.
Let me stop, man.
You know, you know, you know, hurt people, hurt people.
So y'all mess with me.
I'm messing with everybody.
I'm starting messing with you.
Hurt people, hurt people.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that. I like that. I like So you're with me. I'm with everybody.
Hurt people hurt people. I like that.
Mike, they got to get you on power. Paul, we got called 50 and get you on power.
Hurt people hurt.
We are put Mike in a movie.
Yeah, Mike got to go in a movie.
Well, I'm just going to say I called this.
It's a great time to be alive and be a Steelers fan because one, our defense is doing phenomenal.
And even with Justin Fields playing at the quarterback position, I felt like he had a
lot of doubt, which makes sense.
We didn't know how he was going to fit with our offense.
This was his game to show like, I'm not just a manager.
I have potential.
Y'all doubted me.
I'm going to show y'all what I could do.
Who's very efficient.
He has a great relationship with the Ryber receivers.
Cause even though he wasn't throwing to George Pickens
as much, he also had Calvin Austin that he could give
that touchdown pass to.
So I'm happy for the team.
And then next we play the Colts.
I already see us having to win that game.
I feel like that's going to be an easy W.
So I think we're at a good little start.
A great start.
A great start.
Just tell y'all.
Just know that was a great picture.
And y'all know, leave me alone.
That was a great picture.
And I. It looks was a great picture.
It looks like a great picture. Thank you.
Stat, who's 57?
That's my French Jersey.
I ain't no Raven's fan.
I ain't no Raven's fan.
I know, but who is 57?
It was just a nice picture.
Put it out there now.
Who's 57?
They got you to switch up, Stat.
Ain't nobody got me to switch up. Ain't nobody got me to switch up.
Y'all didn't know.
What did y'all say last week?
You mad.
So I'm gonna use your quote against you.
I like the skill.
I'm just saying.
So I think we're at a great point.
I just had to make that clear because I've been waiting to say this because y'all were
like, week one, you're getting ahead of yourself, Steph.
Oh my gosh, it's just one game,
but we are at, feel a great start.
So that's just really nice to say right now.
Y'all gonna win the division?
I like our odds.
I like our odds.
You like the odds?
Yeah.
But you don't think y'all gonna win it.
I didn't say that, we're not gonna win.
I said I like our odds.
That's a nice way to say you like the way it's going.
Yes, I gotta see a little bit more.
I mean, to your defense, Jefferson almost played perfect
other than that interception.
He played really well.
But I don't see this remaining, you know what I'm saying?
Don't get too excited.
I do.
Wait a minute, why not?
You talking about Pittsburgh?
You talking about Pittsburgh?
Yeah.
Yes.
You said he doesn't see it.
Right, who's over there that's gonna stop him? Cleveland? Cincinnati? Yes. You say he doesn't see it. Right.
Who's over there going to stop them?
Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cincinnati going through what they're going through.
How about the team that beats y'all today?
How about them?
How about the team that beat Dallas?
Right.
Yeah, listen, I understand.
I know Baltimore is there, but you're talking about a team
that was fighting not to be 0 and 3.
And right now the other team was fighting to be 3 and 0.
There's a difference.
Oh, you see that?
So, why don't you run for president, boy?
Mike. Hey!
That's why we got Mike Werner.
He supports that message.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mike.
Well listen man, what I will say is this,
like I said, I'm Mike T. Finn, so I'm not,
it ain't like I'm sad about it.
Congratulations, but it's a long season.
We got, you guys, number what?
14 weeks to go, man.
Congrats, though. Yeah. 14 weeks to go, man. Congrats, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, and just for the record, y'all do know,
I got on my black and yellow.
Oh, my God.
Everybody got on black and yellow today.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you.
This is beautiful.
This ain't no worse than you, man.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Yo, man, this is worse than you.
Baby, sir, I'm having a great day. Yo, you don't see how out of pocket you are. This is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
I'm having a great day.
You don't see how out of pocket you are
until you see somebody else do what you do.
Mike, that's wow right there.
We are locked in.
Mustard jeans and black shirt.
Mike, that's crazy, Mike.
I'm gonna keep it real.
And you don't really see, Murdoch. I'm glad you can see it.
Yeah, he's out of pocket.
When I'm dealing with three Floridians,
and this is what y'all do.
This is how y'all was raised.
Hey, man. Say, man.
Yeah, say, man.
We're gonna go to break.
When we return, we will talk about the Chiefs.
Don't go anywhere.
One eye. One heart. When we return, we will talk about the Chiefs. Don't go anywhere.
One hour.
One heart.
One look.
Excuse me. After last night performance, we're gonna do this again?
That's all right.
I don't think so.
And make sure you close the door behind you What? Yeah
When I take a pussy up man
When I take a pussy up man
I'm Rico fucking strong
I told you
Baby
Hey Hey I'm fucking strong. Holy fucking shit. Baby!
Hey.
Hey.
I'm back.
Oh my god!
I'm gonna tell them. Muchacho, levántate.
Toma esto, bebetelo.
Well, well, cuña.
Well.
Right now.
Yeah.
Let me see you walk it off.
Walk it off.
Yeah, let me see you walk it off.
Walk it off.
Yeah, let me see you walk it off.
Walk it off. Walk it off. Right now. Yeah. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
Today the Bengals will play the commanders.
Underdog has Joe Burrow at 264 and a half passing yards.
Do you have him higher or lower mace?
Hmm, higher.
I wish it was higher, man, but I don't this really.
I don't know what Jamar Chase attitude is like this week.
I don't know if he happy.
I don't know if he upset.
I don't know if he was doing his thing in practice now.
Usually using code cam, I would definitely say hi,
especially my nigga, you know,
it should be a breakout game,
one of these games sooner or later.
But after seeing Jamar Chase's attitude last week,
I just don't know where he's at mentally.
I'm gonna go lower.
Okay.
Terry McLaurin is at 46 and a half receiving yards.
You have him higher or lower, Ken?
Lower. Higher. Okay, and Jamar Chase is at 46 and a half receiving yards. You have him higher or lower? Kim? Lower.
Higher.
Okay, and Jamar Chase is at 80 and a half receiving yards.
You have him higher or lower?
Mase?
How many yards again?
80 and a half.
I'm gonna go higher.
I don't know where his brain is at, man.
You like to know. You gotta get more than 80. Nah, because I don't know where his brain is at, man.
You gotta get more than 80.
Nah, because I don't know, see you didn't see the game last week when they played the
Chiefs.
When he was arguing on the sideline?
He was arguing on the field with Joe Burrow.
Then you get a penalty that takes you out of field goal range.
Luckily they get the yardage back to get the field goal, but it could have been a potential
touchdown.
You go on the sideline, you're still going
crazy. Your contracts still not done. And then you tell the
niggas, I don't even want to renegotiate my contract, which
Mike was referring to. Week one when we were saying that, you
know, Jerry wasn't dumb fixing decks, contract before before
the season was started. Ficking all of them fixing CD lambs contract before the season was started.
Fixing CD Lambs contract before the season started.
I don't know what that's working out for them today,
but week one, it sounded good.
Week one, shit don't sound good.
Week three, but I really don't know where his mindset is at.
I'm gonna say lower only because I need to see them
play good and this is a game that y'all guys should
put the least put to the vision on notice and get a win.
Yeah, that's why you got a game.
You got 16 people coming in here with steeler jerseys.
It's fucking crazy.
In Miami, you know.
No, I'm talking about,
nah, cause they in the same division.
You got to worry, John, when you talking about Cleveland.
I meant the Bengals.
Yeah.
It's not for Cleveland, it's for the U.
No, I'm just saying, but you know, we was just talking shit cause they in the same division as the Bengals. It's not for Cleveland, it's for the U. No, I'm just saying, but you know,
we was just talking shit,
cause they in the same division as the Steelers.
Oh, here we go.
Mike in the building.
Oh girl, I heard that girl.
You a girl saying, for the U, you right girl.
I like to see that man.
I'm so glad I came right over here.
I just like to be out over here, black and yellow.
You see what?
Black and yellow and orange.
It's just crazy.
Yeah, I am.
Right.
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We are joined back with our analyst, Michael Irvin.
So the Chiefs beat
the Falcons 22 to 17. Are the Chiefs looking unbeatable this year, Mike?
Let's go wise self.
No, they're not looking unbeatable now, but in order to beat them, you have to play great late. They look beatable in every game but they
play late great and play great late. Look how easy and quick that thing was Lamar could have
won them the first game and today they surely could have lost that game. I knew it I told you
Atlanta was gonna play them real hard I just can't pick anybody over Patrick Mahomes
because of how he handled things late in the game.
And again, it showed up.
So, they don't look unbeatable,
but it's still not that easy to beat him
because you can't make a mistake.
Patrick Mahomes, he capitalized on him.
And that's why even when we talk about the charges,
if you can get a run game like that,
and late in the game, just run the damn ball.
Stop trying to put, tonight, right?
Raheem, Coach Morris, you go down,
if you kick a field goal, the game will be 20-220.
Then you got the ball back. You came back and kicked the game winning field goal.
Because his defense had stopped the Chiefs. But in his head, he's looking at Patrick Mahomes.
If I take this, we're only going to be 20-220. He's going to at least go and get a field goal
And if he gets a field goal now, we got to come get you see what I'm saying
We got to come back get another touchdown anyway
So so it's the fear of Patrick my home made you made you make a bad decision
You should have kicked that field goal your defense came out stopped him. You make that drive you to one that game
That's the difference.
And being pat, they look beatable.
They look people.
Travis Kelsey is not taught that many passes this year.
They look beatable, but they really not with Patrick at homes in the end of a game.
Yeah.
I'm glad you cleared that up, Mike, because this is like three card Molly when
you plan the chiefs, right?
It looks like something is there that's not there.
And every time you think you got them
and only to flip the card over and you don't have us,
you know, we're the champs, Mike.
You gotta get this correct.
That's a good analogy.
Yeah.
Good analogy, right?
You think for sure we got them with this, only to lift that card and recognize that is not your card.
That is not your car.
And that's what makes a great, um, swindler, you know,
cause it looks like you have it when it comes to the chiefs each time.
It's their attention to details.
When you talk about championship teams, Mike, you know,
this is the attention and details
So it's these little areas that seem small to one group
That is humongous pause when it comes to the the ending of the game and that's what it always turned into
It's like this little error that you make that blows the game wide open and that's what continues to happen with the Chiefs
I blows the game wide open. And that's what continues to happen with the Chiefs. I agree with you, Mike.
And what's going on is this,
is that the NFL knows this Taylor Swift
brings extra fucking people to the stadium.
That shit last week against the Bengals,
when they called that pass interference with four for 16,
that was just fucking ridiculous.
That was wrong. It was just fucking ridiculous.
It was out of control.
Mase could do this three-card monty.
I'm just talking about the Falcons and Baltimore.
You know all this weed and chips.
We know what happened in the Chase game.
Listen, what I'm saying is this.
Okay, today, you're right.
I agree with both of you today.
NFL knows we need Taylor.
We know that she brings the view.
Taylor, what's the cheese record when Taylor Swift is there?
So when Taylor Swift is in attendance,
they are 10 and three.
This is an important stat.
She can't go on tour.
She can't go on tour playoff time.
Taylor Swift is in attendance there 10 and three.
What a Super Bowl.
Throw the Super Bowl in there at that, man.
But listen, and I'm not joking,
so I'm not gonna say all jokes aside.
I am serious, but Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes, man.
And so far we've noticed he's that deal, bro.
And I can't even argue with that. And I love Patrick Mahomes. I, and so further notice, he's that deal, bro. And I can't even argue with that.
And I love Patrick Mahomes, I think he's super dope.
And so further notice, Patrick Mahomes is the man.
I love Andy Reid, not just Patrick Mahomes,
I love Andy Reid.
I'm so happy more for him.
Andy Reid's the one right there.
I'm more happy for Andy Reid than anybody
because when he was in Philadelphia,
he was always right there and couldn't get over the hump.
You know, he gets to this Super Bowl
and you got Terrell Owens arguing,
what's my nigga Donovan McNabb?
It just, you know, that locker room was fucking suicide
in there and Andy Reid is paying the price for it.
So when he gets to Kansas City and shows that
he's such a good coach, I'm happy for him.
I'm very successful, I think shows that he's such a good coach, I'm happy for him. I'm very successful.
I think that since he's been there and as an NFL head coach, I'm more happy for him
than anybody else.
What I will say is this murder may be right when it comes to these niggas doing podcasts
because the Kelsey has not been looking, Trav has not been looking like Trav of old now.
I know he's getting a little older and I know everything else he may have going on with Taylor,
but the podcast, he did a hundred million dollar deal.
I don't even think he got a hundred million dollar deal
in the NFL.
We gotta Google his contract.
So it's the podcast murder festival.
Cause he's not playing bad.
I told you this.
But it ain't the Kelsey that we've been seeing.
Every time niggas get,
they gotta keep the first thing, the first thing.
That's what Maurice taught us.
You gotta keep the first thing, the first thing.
You guys get on these podcasts all of a sudden,
you know, I plan as well.
And I don't know if I like that.
I'm gonna use Kambo's, I don't like that't know if I like that. I'm going to use cam boys. I don't like that.
He has a two year, $30 million contract. Because you talked about you.
Yeah, my man.
And I and I started something.
I started to show talking about something about Dallas need to find a player.
Let me I just want to break this down and show you something.
You see, when you get a guy like Andy Reid, dude, that's a different dude.
Andy Reid can go pick some up off the old scrap, the scrap heat, and make it look like
it's something new.
That's what he did with Juju Smith Houston.
I said, hey, that's dope, man.
He's still alive.
Oh, touchdown.
You see what I'm saying?
That's what Andy Reid knows how to do now. I keep saying the Cowboys gonna
They're off. I don't know that they know how they can't do that
They don't know how that that's the concern and the Reid can find anybody. You know who else Kyle Shanahan
He'll find some more players even though they lost lost today. He'll find other players that made players.
Those are different kinds of offensive coordinators.
And they're beating you,
and that's why it don't matter the players they're using,
they're beating you system, beating system.
So it's not man beating man, like you go beat that guy.
No, we're going to run crossing routes and everything.
Our system is going to be your system.
If you got two guys over there,
we're gonna flood that zone with three guys.
You can't cover them all.
It's a system beating a system.
They're brilliant, brilliant coaches.
And yeah, and listen, Mike, to add on to that,
I'm gonna have to totally agree with you
because I thought when the enemy left,
that he was the one.
Because they made it seem like he was the one.
And he left and he went over to Washington.
They was like, damn, the offense ain't gonna be the same.
And shit, God damn, it looked just as good
as when he was gone as when he was there.
That's first and foremost.
Secondly, what I will say is let's keep our eye out.
Pacheco is out for six to eight weeks.
They're running back still.
He played decent today.
He played high 72 yards on the ground.
But Pacheco is a big part of that offense.
But if anybody's going to figure out,
I'd say it is Andy Reid.
Yeah, and I'm going to have to-
He's undrafted.
He's undrafted.
That running back, undrafted.
That running light, running like he just got drafted high
as somebody's draft.
Man, what? Andy a take, boy, Andy can take a construction worker running like running like he just got drafted high somebody's draft.
Andy will take, Andy will take a construction worker and get some yardage out of him. He's just a brilliant dude.
That's what's up.
Yeah. And I'm going to have to pray for the 49ers because they're looking like this is
going to be a horrible year. We love Coach Shanahan, New York, the York family and the
twins. So we definitely going to have, the York family and the twins.
So we definitely gonna have to keep 49ers in your prayers.
Okay.
And then we're gonna discuss two more games real quick
before we wrap.
So the Texans lost to the Vikings 34 to seven,
leaving CJ Stroud visibly frustrated.
The Vikings are also now three and oh,
their first three and oh start since 2016.
What does this mean for them? And what are your thoughts on the game, Mike?
I've been throwing so much praise towards the Vikings man and watching them and just
love how they play.
In the game today, Sam Dono got hurt, went out and you know, out for a few plays when
he came back in, that stadium erupted already.
You know, they can see, they are saying,
this is what you mean to us, you know.
And I knew that must have felt good for him
after all he's been through, you know what I mean?
Cause he's been through stuff,
especially coming through in New York.
So I know that must have felt good.
And it feels like they got something.
It's like, this is the perfect system for
Sam and the perfect players around Sam Minnesota looks like right now one of
the top two teams in the NFC bar none if not the top team in the NFC right now I
I don't know about this Vikings man.
I just, I just don't see a Viking championship team. You know, like they may win a few games,
but I just can't put them in that conversation.
The Vikings are like the lions to me.
Those same way Cam feels about the lions.
That's how I feel about the Vikings.
They could play very well, but you just know
when it's all said and done, they won't be there.
So I can't give any energy to that.
Who is your team in the NLC?
I only go for the Chiefs.
That was a good guy. That was a good guy.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm an AFC guy, you know what I'm saying?
I'm like East Coast, West Coast.
I don't have a West Coast artist, you know?
Just East Coast.
I mean, you're an analyst,
so I thought that that's what you were paid to do.
So I didn't know if you had any...
Nah, I would go with...
Let me see. I would go with... I mean, you're an analyst, so I thought that that's what you were paid to do. So I didn't know if you had any.
They paid you.
I would go with, let me see.
Let me see.
It's really hard to pick right now because you could, you could, I mean, the Eagles,
you could have said the Saints.
The Saints didn't look good to like, you know.
Yeah, the Eagles would be my NFC team.
But I'm not sure.
The Eagles didn't look nothing like the Eagles. The Eagles struggled too sure. But he was, they looked nothing like,
he was struggling too now.
Yeah, they wanted the last one.
I know he made me pick an NFC team.
I don't fool with the NFC.
I'm an AFC guy.
No, I'm just trying to say
because the Niners don't look good.
The only undefeated team right now in the NFC
is the Seattle Seahawks.
I like how the season is going.
There's nothing surprising for me from the Buffalo Bills, nothing surprising from the
Kansas City Chiefs.
You know, we have surprises from the 49ers.
Maybe it's due to injury.
We didn't think Lamar Jackson and these guys would start off one and two.
So everybody's crazy, the crazy Cowboy fans
and Michael Irvin, we already knew this was gonna happen.
But it seemed like a lot of power, it's parallel.
This is really ending given Sunday, the first three weeks.
But yeah, I'm back to what Mike said.
Happy for Sam Donovan.
Look, when you, New York is one of the toughest markets
to play in.
Listen, yo listen, you will get crucified in 35 minutes,
man, they do not care, man.
I seen them bull called Mello Anthony, man.
You know what I'm saying?
They do not care in New York.
So dealing with that and coming out where he's at right now,
look, what he had today, four touchdowns, 181 yards.
He looked really good.
CJ, two interceptions, touchdown.
I can't wait, you know, this is what we was talking
about Mike too, as far as wide receivers,
because I'm not saying today, because he was targeted,
I believe 12 times, 10 receptions, stuff on digs.
But how long do you think Tillie starts coming over there
yelling at the quarterback?
I give it a week nine.
I give it a week nine.
This was the game.
Yep.
What'd you say?
This was the game now, because you remember
he was returning Minnesota, that was his own team.
Right.
So you know, they were gonna certainly,
this was the hot button game. If you'd have given them targets, oh, we would hope. Right. So, you know, they were going to certainly, this was the hot button game. If you didn't give them them targets, oh, we would hope. Yeah. Yeah, it would have been a problem.
You know what I mean? You could have seen. Yeah, yeah, it could have been something. But, but yeah,
but I think, I think he'll be cool because honestly, he's been on, he was a black head
coach and a black quarterback. Right. You see what I mean? As opposed to other places that he's been.
Both of those guys ain't never been black for him.
Gotcha.
OK.
And last game, the Panthers beat the Raiders 36 to 22.
Did Andy Dalton just revive his career?
Mike?
No. Come on, Mike. No,
come on, Mike. I was thinking, please say yes.
No, no, no.
In, in I love Andy and I can't talk about a man.
He's carved himself a fine career.
But you know, no, there wasn't anything really to revive outside, you know, to that level anyway.
You know, he stepped in and made plays.
And really, when you make that kind of change, because what happens is you get all of those guys who say man we can win now but our talent we can win now with our talent
We just our quarterback just need time to learn and grow
So when they get a veteran in there, you know all of a sudden what old guys play above, you know
Above expected because they finally got somebody that knows how to get everybody the ball
So everybody raises their level and it's good for a game.
But it's not sustainable all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
He just raised that moment.
So now and he had a great career, fine career.
But this is a stopgap.
There's no future with Andy Dole in Carolina, you know, so they still gotta go find a quarterback
So in other words, this is like putting band-aids on stitches
Yeah
Alright, yeah
So when it when it comes to when it comes to Carolina
You don't think he gets major credit for stepping in and winning right away with a team that didn't seem like they could win?
Oh yeah, he gets credit for that. But what I'm saying is, this is not, oh my God, now they can trade Bryce Young and they're going now, they might as well just ride and stick in the door not there and now Andy's going to go get another five you get a five year
250 million dollar deal because Wow Carolina's ready to win now
That's a bit overreaction
But if he wins four more games, let's say he win three of the next four games
It does kind of revitalize his his situation because now he's seen as a person as
even temporarily turning that on franchise around
Right, right
Just like Joe Flacco did for the Cleveland Browns
I was just about to say that listen Joe Flacco got a job this year behind that
Yeah, he's a I mean, I know he's a backup,
but he's a backup in Indianapolis.
He was on the couch until Cleveland Browns
called him up last year, led him to the playoffs.
And now at least he's on the bench.
He's not on his couch, he has a job.
And I agree with you, Mike, I think you're 100% right.
But Andy Dalton at least looks like he could get a job.
And look, I'm not going off one game
It's a long season. You got plenty of time to go but
319 yards your first game back three touchdown passes and then you win by 14 points
Not only that you score in every quarter. This looked really good. And I know this gave Carolina some hope then what I will say is this
They care rate listen know what they can do.
Yeah, yeah, it was a great win.
They can raise the ticket prices from $3 to $7 now.
So we'll see how that works out for y'all
in next week's game.
And then if y'all win again, y'all can go to $14 for a ticket.
And we'll see how that works out.
I thought it was a great win.
And I'll tell you another thing Murda,
I came here straight from a flight today.
I got on, I came here straight from a flight,
taking care of some business last night
and I got here this morning.
And walking through the airport,
I remember when the season ended last year,
or not just ended, the football season,
they were so excited to have Antonio Pierce
be their head coach.
I never heard so this motherfucker,
Antonio Pierce walking through the airport today,
outside in front of the airport, this motherfucker.
Yeah boy, he was hot.
Yeah, the fans.
He was hot.
The fans, but he was up to about the fans.
They wanted him here, Mike.
Yeah, they were hot.
And now that they got him, this motherfucker.
I done heard that, I was about 19 of those
before I got to the studio.
So Carolina is crazy.
Yeah, yeah, they was pissed off with him today.
Yeah, did you see it in his post game conference,
post game, he said he had many players
that made business decisions out there today.
And he said, when we get back and watch the film,
we gonna be making a business decision on them.
You know, business decision mean he just decided,
I don't wanna put my body in there.
I'm not gonna take that hit, I'm just gonna take that check.
You see, you don't wanna risk your body,
you don't wanna take that, That's called a business decision.
No pain, just a game.
Okay, right.
He's going to go in the field room now
and make business decisions on all of them.
Jimmy Johnson would be cutting anybody
just to send a message to make sure everybody else knows,
you try that again and we lose to that team like that.
Yeah, we got to get you out of here. lose to that team like that.
Yeah, we gotta get you outta here. I think Coach will do that.
Well, the thing about it is this, Mike,
and I love that assessment
because he has to make a business decision on them
because management and ownership
will make a business decision on you.
So that has to happen.
Right, that's the part he is sick of, that's right. That's the part.
He said, you're right. So he should have right.
He said it that way. They make a business.
He said it out there. Everybody's somebody who you write.
You are absolutely right. That's right.
And that's why he's going to get him out of there.
I promise you that. Take the gym. Jimmy would tell us, I don't need friends.
I need friends that can help me win.
If you can help me win, you can be my friend.
You can.
That's the main thing in this game is wins, not friends.
And that's what he has to do.
OK, well, Mike, it was a pleasure to have you today.
Wise self is being real wise self. It's always good, man. My day, man. I must give you all that.
Mike, it was a pleasure to have you on the show today. We will see you in a couple of days,
but that is all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it was a pleasure to have you on the show today. We will see you in a couple of days, but that is all the time that we have for today.
Thanks for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.
See you.
Why so Mike?
What you want, nigga? Thanks for watching!