IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN SAYS STEFANSKI IS SABOTAGING SHEDEUR SANDERS, CAM'S BENGALS ARE DONE & THE CHIEFS DYNASTY IS COOKED!

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

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If it is what it is, shoot the episode tonight this morning, this is a formal request killer. You got to stall us to fuck out in Ohio, bro. It's been a rough weekend, bro. Y'all spent us on Thursday and Friday for the bag. I'm not mad, but Roach didn't win, so now I'm mad. Then, Ohio State lose to knees they never lost to in 30 years. I'm 35. All right, then the Cavs playing, who they lose to?

The Warriors with no Steph, Dre, or Jimmy at home. And then Shador go out and ball, and we give the Titans. They second win in 13 weeks. Hey, man. Killer, no Bengals talk either. And Statt, don't get to talk about her stillers. You wasn't trying to talk about them last week just because they won. We're not leading the week with them.

You feel me? We talk in Dallas. We talking chiefs. We talk boxing and basketball. Bro, stall Ohio out. back to it is what it is this episode is presented by underdog if you're new to underdog today's the day get $75 in bonus entries when you play just $5 with code it is what it is so underdog isn't stopping there they're giving all new users a gimmee pick on justin herbert tonight you all can make

picks right now in most days including florida texas and california just to name a few so make sure you all support the show hit that subscribe button lock in your bonus and start playing today with code It is what it is. I'm Charger Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be back, and today we are joined with our analyst, Michael Irvin. Mike, what is going on, baby? How you doing? I'm doing great.

I'm doing absolutely great. You know, we got the greatest news in the world. And I don't even call it as if somebody gave us something with the University of Miami getting into the playoffs. You know what I'm saying? Clock that thing, Tray. You know what I'm saying? St. Yeah.

I'm clocking you. I'm clocking two. I'm clocking like on. But let me say, let me say. Because, you know, everybody, oh, I appreciate the committee. I appreciate the community. I don't appreciate them niggas. I ain't studying them nigger.

They ain't give me nothing. All they did was recognize what we had earned, you know. If you go breaking my player account, I got over here and take a million of my, million dollars, and then we open in the bar. You're talking about here you go, dog. There go a million dollars. And you ain't giving me nothing but my money back. That's all.

So you see what I'm saying? They didn't give us nothing. They did what they were supposed to do and we got what we earned. So I was happy, man. I was happy about that. Everything is good because of that. Oh, God. Everybody on this shit got a backup plan.

Everybody, yo. We're just going to go with the University of Miami because the puncher ain't fucking work last week. week. So now we're going to just stick with the fucking Miami. Pancho. Pancho, Mike, ain't working. So now the best news in the world. We'll get to it. It's all good.

No, fucking Pancho. All the luck in the burnt out. So now the best news in the world is Miami. Conveniently comes in here with a Pittsburgh jersey on. Everybody up here, man. Everybody up here is. wild man it's all good it's all good man now the best back to Miami back to

back to Miami you can't okay cam okay you dress properly you got on all black because the bingles is in the grave nigger you're just properly too yeah yeah Mike yeah my funeral nigger stop playing no at all let's lay them R-R-I-P you know listen man there's like you got to get in our and it is what it is group text. I bet I threw a whole tantrum in the other day, man. Fuck the Bengals. I had a whole attitude with them, niggas.

Listen, we're going to get to all that shit too, but not really fuck the Bengals, but I don't know why I let myself emotionally get involved yesterday with that fucking game. I was emotionally involved knowing I shouldn't be, and I played myself. But we'll get to it, man. We'll get to it, but yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one, nigga.

But I wasn't running around with the magical poncho and saying it was blessed and everything else. But that was a good one. I'll take that. I'll take that for us. Maybe you need the magical poncho. Maybe. It ain't worked for Mike.

It's going to work for me. It could work for you. I'm having a great week. I'm just giving everybody just positive everything because it's been great in all ranges of sports for me. So that's how I'm feeling. Okay, so before we get into football, definitely want to talk about this fight

that happened this past weekend. So if you guys saw, We hosted the pre-way-in show for the Pitbull versus Roach fight in San Antonio. It was a great time. A lot of good vibes. We did it with PBC and Prime video. Cam, you actually got to stay for the fight. So what was your opinion on the ending because it ended in a draw,

which is a controversial ending for a lot of people? So what was your opinion on the fight as a whole and the results? That was a really, really good fight. I haven't seen a fight that good in a long time. I'm like, I'm trying to think, last time I seen a fight that good. I can't remember, it was a really good fight. And to be totally honest with you, I'm not mad at the draw. I'm really not.

If I had to pick a winner, I would say to me, Lamar Roach won the fight. He threw less punches, landed, more punches higher, hitting percentage. And Pitbull was tough. The one thing that I will say about that is that I think Lamarroach, he knew with the judges he wouldn't get a win and he went in there to have a fight he was boxing but that nigga was brawling and when he did the interview with him

he was basically saying Kim I'm out here to hurt something and I said to the nigga I'm like yo bro why you're a tremendous boxer I didn't say it in these words that I'm saying now but I'm like why nigga you ain't here that ain't what you do nigga you box but he went in there and brawl he wasn't running he was throwing punches

Pitbull was throwing punches Lamont Roach actually got knocked down not like a real knock down the glove touched the floor but it was a great fight I'm not mad at the draw I'm mad at one of the judges score card having Pit Bull

winning by four or five rounds which was fucking outrageous that was fucking ridiculous and not one judge even having it for Lamont Roach at all so I am mad at that but overall the fight was good I just think Lamont Roach

would have won that fight if he boxed instead of doing the brawling he was doing it but I feel him he's like I'm not running nigga I'm here to fight I feel him on that because he didn't want to leave it in the judge's hands but that nigga pit bull is like a real pit bull

that nigga had his pause it's hard man a lot of people don't know this Lamarroach broke his hand in the middle of the fight so have you seen him throwing so many left hands or left hooks outside the jab he broke his hand probably six or seven round in the middle to fight and he still fought you wouldn't even

know his hand was broke. I didn't know until after the fight. But the end of the day, that was a tremendous fight. Not only that, the undercar was really good. Cool boy came in overweight. Shockey gave him a boxing lesson like I'd never seen before. Shout to Shockey because you know I picked Cool Boy to win. And that's what I want to give Shockey and his team a real, real shout out. Because even though I picked Cool Boy to win, you know it's fucking me all weekend. Can we going to prove you wrong? Can we going to prove you wrong? They wasn't in their feelings. They didn't feel away. They were super duper cool. And after the fight, They told you, nigga, I said, I ain't got nothing to say.

Y'all niggins is absolutely right. They was fucking with me. I was fucking with them. So congratulations to Shaki, well-deserved. Cool boy, he looked like he didn't want to be there. He was overweight, so I thought that that was, he gave him an overweight, so I thought that was going to go to his advantage. But he looked more out of shape or just didn't want to be there.

So Shockey gave him a real, real, real good boxing lesson. That was a great fight. And again, Frank Martin on the prelims, put a nigga out. Frank Martin looked like he need to be back in the limel. the way he put the thing out. So shout out to everybody who was part of Vent this weekend. It was really, really some good fights, man, this weekend. Yeah, dope.

And I will say, everybody did kind of give Oshaki a hard time, so it was really cool seeing how he kind of like handled it. He was real, he was actually, he was actually acting real cool. Like, not because I know that's not his name, but like the way he handled everything. He was cool, shaki was cool as shit. Like, hey, that's what y'all want to do. It was cool, still giving niggas fight.

He didn't feel no way. That nigga was cool. and shit, I fuck with that nigga. Because he understands like, yo, we got a job to do. All right, that's who you want to run with. I see you after the fight. And that's what he did.

Came and gave me fire off his trainers, everybody. So shout out the shot in his team. Also, last thing I gotta say, the it is what it is logo in the ring, was fire. Because watching it, like, I really wish I could have made the event, but I was still watching it, watching it. I was like, this is chef's kiss. That was fired.

First of all, shout to send city, he probably put all this shit together, you know what I'm saying? So big shout to Sin City. He also had talk with Flea in the building. So he put the whole play together. I want to say thank you to Sin City. And Kenneth from PBC putting everything together. They made it happen, made it really dope for us.

So thank you guys. We appreciate it. Now let's move along to footballs. We're actually going to start with the bills. So the bills beat the Bengals 39 to 34. Mike, what do you think of this Bengals loss? in particular well okay first let me tell you guys you know when I I was doing that parade McAllen Parade Saturday night so I didn't get a chance to watch a fight

but soon as I got off of the air doing the parade you know everything's coming on my feet yeah that with that it is what it is logo in the ring everything it was on everything yeah okay yeah what I first you all know about when I saw it when I first I said, oh, the niggins were talking about when we were talking about the billboards. Now look at this, it's going to pop it all up on my phone. We're talking about the billboards in New York. Right. This was like the billboards in New York.

You know what I'm saying? I was like, man, you're an actual ring, dog. That's a whole different world, dog. Yeah, man. I was proud of that, man. I was really proud of that, man. I appreciate that. I told you, I told you, Cam, you remind me a lot of Dion like that when I came to your show.

You guys, you know, and I like what you were just telling everybody. Like, back up. Yeah. Stop playing. I'm doing business with people. Right. That's what we go do, you know? Right, yeah.

They go in board rooms, they sell kind of stuff, and then soon as we say, stuff, all of a sudden, you know, things get different. No, brother. Yeah. That's it. Do your business with them people that got some money to do business with. I'm with you on that. Thank you. You know, what I'm saying.

I'm with you on that, man. That wasn't a flash down. That wasn't a flash knockout. That tank, that pit bull among, that, when I watch the highlights of the fight, that remind me, I said, I know his last name, Cruz. I don't believe that alone, but I said to myself, he reminds me of one of the more hard white boys

that you play ball with, like, you know, they're old Johnsters of the world, or the scatterboos. They don't know he should stop. Don't know he's out man. out man, that LeMont, that little dude called him a couple of times with some real, real haymakers, you know. So, yeah, it was good to see that. But I was proud of y'all.

I was proud of y'all. Thank you, bro. Now we'll get to the, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I really was. So we'll get to the football. Let me tell you, first of all, I thought just what Cam was thinking. Oh, oh, because you're looking at Pittsburgh and Baltimore battling.

One of them is getting a loss. you guys were dominating Buffalo. Dominate. I said, my God, that dominating Buffalo. You know, that's what I first thought. And then Josh Allen took over that game. You know, they didn't have the defense. And they ended the game again.

I think there was like the fourth game, y'all. Somebody, so many games they played where they scored over 30 points but still lost. Cincinnati Bengals. I saw some stats like that. But Josh Allen took over the game. you're running the football. And it's another thing I'm noticing all around. You guys notice too.

Notice people are throwing, the quarterbacks are throwing for maybe 190, 180, 180, 190 yards, 90 yards, it's so damn cold out here all over the world. You understand? All the more cold games you're playing, you know, and the cold games, that ball don't travel as well. That ball is heavy. And when you got a quarterback, they can run like Josh and everybody else is Slipping, you're slipping around?

Yeah, yeah. And once Josh Allen took over, they couldn't stop them. And then it went back to that defense and talking about how bad that defense is. But Joe Burrell and T. Higgins, the one-handed T. Higgins caught, man, hey, boy, them boys look bad. They look bad.

But they're doing the same things, you know, to get you, like you said, get your whole stuff. But, listen, man. In the end. I don't know why you've got my husband. I was self-emotionally involved with that game. I was pissed off. I'm sitting there calm.

The whole game, like, alright, cool, let's let the clock go down. Let the clock go down. Because they would score, bring it within three, talking about the bills, and then we would go back up and go up 10. I'm like, all right, right, right, right, we're up 10, we up 28, 18, okay, cool.

And you can, and don't get me wrong. Josh Allen is a motherfucker. That niggas the ring. ain't an MVP for a reason. He's a motherfucker. And Joe Burroughs is a motherfucker, too. I'm not going off Josh Allen took

over. He made the plays he needed to play, make. Absolutely, when he needed to make him. But the two back to back interceptions is with this one in this motherfucking game. And why don't it was a pick six. Like, that's what won the game.

Yeah, the first one. And then they went and scored on the other interception, too. I ain't on Don't act like he pulled a Tom Brady off or none of that. Them back to Joe Burrow, he rusty, he was in the snow, turf, toe, all that good shit, whatever. He was rusty, and them pick's shoulder, and he was in the snow. I ain't going with Josh Allen came in, like the miracle music.

Nah, nigger, Joe Burroughs do them fucking interceptions, and don't get it wrong, Josh Allen did what he was supposed to do as a quarterback. But he ain't marched them niggas up the field, and make an amazing comeback. This blame is totally on Joe Burroughs. As good as he played, them two interceptions were super duper key, and they came at the worst time of the game

that they possibly could come at. Two back-to-back T-Ds, one for pick six, the other one they still scored, and that's why they really lost the game. To be honest with you, and you can't even blame anybody else. Of course you can blame the defense, but we're going to have to attribute some of this

to Joe Burroughs make an error. as well. You know, you sit there and be like, oh, they had 39 points and they still lost. Nah, that's because of the offense this time. Not saying that they still want to add 25, 27 points. But it's because of the offense, while they scored them points on the mistakes that Joe Burrow made, man. So as much as I love Joe Burrow, this couldn't have happened at a worst time. But Josh Allen, he definitely did what he's supposed to do when he's supposed to do it. But I don't think he outplayed Joe Burrow, in my opinion, just the back interceptions, whatever.

bad time but you see can but that that throw that play that's what I was talking about in referring to when I see it when you get me it's colder like this the balls get heavy and they're a little slicker they're harder to catch and they're more difficult to throw you can't get and Joe that was that was that first interception it was he was trying to shot put that ball out there right like you can you you're trying to shot put the ball to get it right over his head right over the guys outreach hands and that ball just

dropped in his hands and he was off and gone. So yeah, you're right about that. I was trying to save him with the weather. Yeah. But it was it was a coach here.

My thing is, Mike, I can't, I've never played, you know, basketball is my thing. I remember I seen Jemond Green and Tom Brady arguing one time about what sport is harder. And Tom Brady had actually said

football, J. Mon Green was like basketball. Tom Brady said, look, y'all play in perfect weather every day. Every game, y'all playing perfect weather. So I'm not the nigger to argue with you about anything condition-wise. You played it in the know, heat, snow, everything else. You know what that shit is like. But what I'm going to say is this. He threw them back-to-back interceptions and you can put it on the weather.

But after they scored, he went back and threw that one. and shit you talking to T. Higgins. That was after the interceptions. So he came back and threw the right, the right fucking pass to T. Higgins, when T. Higgins caught that shit with one hand. Was that the one other two? Yeah, right.

That's right. You're right. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, but I'm not going to argue with you. You know better than I do, but that, but to just disagree at the point, two interception, maybe he went, get this, and through the fucking

bomb the T. Higgins after the interceptions. Look, man, I was y'all in the TV. I ain't been in this emotional a long time because I'm like, we can front of the table and a couple teams get a couple losses and maybe we can do this, man. I'm wishing for a miracle on 34th Street and the shit ain't going

fucking happen, man. Sorry, man. Got emotional about this shit. I kick the radio out of group text. Oh, thank you. She's talking shit. She's going to have something to say still. I don't care. She's out the group text. I'm going to bring her back to the group text.

He's just mad right now. Y'all can talk about the next episode. I put a, first of all, I just put in the group text, too. She ain't even been in it, but Maurice was talking shit, so I'm like, I'm putting the Arabian in it. Now she's not. Now she's on to the next victim.

Yeah, you can bring her back if you want. I'll bring her back. I know she got a lot to say. She'll say it on the show, too. Shout on Arabia. That's hilarious. But that's what happens. Like, happens to the best of us sometimes, you know. Yeah.

Happens to y'all every year. Well, we're still looking better than y'all right now. So anyways, I'm just in a good mood. You can't, you can't knock it. It's just too good. It's weird. That's what football's about. That's what football is the best sport in America.

Emotionally, the emotions that you got to have one week to the next, man. Because next week, you'll be crying. Have fun this week, stat. And I will. It looks like I'm having fun for the rest of the season. We'll see. Okay, so a lot of good games. Next, I want to get into this Browns game.

So the Brown's loss of the Titans 31 to 29 with a pretty controversial ending, where Shador was pulled from the Brown's final offensive play of the game to potentially tie the game with a two-point conversion. So, Mike, how do you feel about Sefancy's coaching decisions and then how things have been looking with Cleveland? I thought this was honestly one of Shador's best games, you know, just watching how he handled himself. He seemed to understand more in the game, slowing down a little bit.

Now, they gave him some opportunities, and they were talking about it during the game. When you place your door, man to man, it could be because he made some perfect throws. You could see the accuracy and what people talk about. Like, he was one of the most accurate quarterbacks coming out of college. She made a perfect throw to your boy, Jerry Judy, who was doing all the, you know, a perfect boy. He made a couple of perfect plays that really thought. And then in the end of that game, and I know, and I know you still have mistakes in there and everything. He throws a three, and I told you how cold it is out there, and he goes for, you know, a boatload, 300 and, what, 60 yards or something like that.

So, so you do all of that. And you bring this team back. You get an opportunity to get your first comeback, at least going overtime and try to get a comeback win. And I thought that would have really rocked him in a way with his teammates and serving out here. But to not get the opportunity to take him out of the game and run some kind of play where the players, like it really looked like coach. said, oh, no, I can't have it happen. Go in, number 10, get the ball, snap it, run that way. Then, Henry, don't hit it.

It was like, what the hell is going, what just happened? Did you all see that play, that two-point play? Are you joking? It's one thing that takes Sador out when he's thrown for these kinds of numbers. It's a whole other to put it in it, and then you're going to put the ball in someone's hands to make the most crucial decision of that game. and clearly he was not ready to do that. I don't know if he was supposed to pitch that ball

and forgot to pitch that ball or made a decision not to pitch the ball and they said, oh, I should have pitched the ball. But whatever it was, yeah, that was horrific. And there's no way even Stavansky gets saved. I don't know if he understands how that looks. People have already questioned his sincerity and trying to bring up and raise up and too literally

how much he wants to do a Sanders there. And then you do that right there. I thought that was crazy. That was crazy. That's the horns just coming out. You can't keep them down. You can't push them bang back down. How would you do this to this man?

That was amazing to me. No dope, man. You know, prime. You know, I bet time was sitting out. at home, I thought about him. I said, oh, my God, this must be running him crazy right here. To take out this guy right here at this platform. And what does he always talk about?

He's a big-time player. These are the moments that you really raise up and grew up in this league. And you've got to give your kid or give anybody that you want to have a long future with those moments in real life, in real time, in a real game. I was shocked that they took that away. You know what's crazy, Mike, is that before I even give my commentary on that play or the game period, is that I love the way Shador handled it in the post game.

They asked them about it, and, you know, I think week three Shadur would have been like, yeah, man, I don't know what the hell they was doing, man. I'm supposed to be in there, as opposed to, you know, where he's at now and him players so great, and, you know, not saying he never was media trained, but he's realizing, look, I ain't going to feed into this

and crash out. What he basically said was, we practice plays like that in practice. We execute them in practice. We expect to execute them in the game. We just didn't execute them. So I'm not going to have a question, a play that we run.

And I see somebody in the comment say, Sodor, that was a great answer, my boy. Let all of us crash out with you online. Let us do it. Fuck that. That's what you posted. to say. Right, right.

You say that great answer. You know, when we were working together, Dion, Marshall, Lawrence, Sop, and I, and we get people, we get someone on the interview, and we asked them a hard question. And they lie. And they lie. And we would all look at each other,

like on the old show, Family Fruiser, great answer, great answer, a great answer, great answer. Yeah, they still do it there. We know you bull. We know you pull it. You know what I mean. It was so funny.

But that's how he has to handle it. And you're right. He's getting the opportunity. And he knows, he knows every little thing he does is going to be taken a certain way. So that growing up is what is needed. Now, I'm going to tell you something. This, I told you guys before, this is a hard offense. This West Coast offense, San Francisco used to run it.

It's just so much thinking. And Shador wants to play. fast, you know, and give him a system. And I think the day was the best game playing for his skill set. They kept talking about, why don't they sit back in zone trying to say basically, try to confuse him because once you go man to man, he's going to slice you up because he's so accurate. And he showed that to be true today.

I thought he had a great game. Yeah, he had a really great game. Three touchdowns pass and actually a Russian touchdown as well. They're a rushing touchdown. Yeah. He was the leading rutser and the leading passer. Yeah. Right.

364 yards. Really great game. Look, you said everything you need to say about the play calling of the coach. I don't know what the fuck to say. Like, when you said the horns come on, come out. I don't know. My man Larry's in here. And they like, yo, is it the coach or is it fucking coming from upstairs?

What the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I really, at this point, I don't know if they tell. I don't know what the fuck they're trying to do. It was just amazing to watch and then I was just baffled and angry with everybody else went online who was angry. But for me personally,

on a camera, a personal note, when I was watching the beginning of this game, I was like, yo, this is really, really fucking dope. I remember, oh, shit, it had to be maybe April. Maybe, maybe, what did the draft be, Mike? April, May? Yeah, April. Yeah, so it's March.

So early this year, March. Yep, so early, it might have been early April or late March. Shout to Dion Jr. He invited me over. There's only about eight, nine people there. And I watched Shador and Cam Ward workout. And I was sitting there for about an hour and a half, two hours watching these niggas workout. And for them to play against each other today and watch with them kids came from last year and watching them work out.

That was a proud moment. just watching both of them black star and quarterbacks not on great teams, but, you know, one of the best, two of the best college quarterbacks last year playing against each other. And I think that storyline didn't get enough because of how bad both teams are. But for me personally, I enjoyed to see both of them

starting a quarterback position for the teams they represented. And, Cam, my summation of what you just said is what the whole country wanted to see. Properly promoted, that should have been the number one and number two quarterback going up against each other. Right. And that's what we saw. And we had saw it.

We had seen it. That's the correct, Ray. We have seen it. We had seen them playing around when they were working out like that. Yeah, yeah. Ward was messing with him. Yeah, I don't remember. We talked about us talking about it.

You know, I love Cam Ward. So, you know, I'm sitting here, like, well, that's Miami, and I love, I love Cam. I was looking forward to that battle. And I believe, I believe what you're talking about. Also, it's all of those guys in each locker room was trying to raise their guy up. Right. They played, both of those teams played hard. You know what I mean?

Right. And I think each one of them wanted to raise their guys up. And Shador, Cam wore through for like I maybe 180 yards, something like that. 77 yards, you know, so I was like, oh, he threw for 117. 117. He still had two touchdowns. Two touchdowns and two touchdown. So, so, yeah, so, you know, I'm like, all right, all right, you know, man.

So should do it won the battle. That's the, the odd thing, but you took away his chance to win the war. Right. And that's what, that's what, that's what pisses me off. Yeah. So I do want to add, Shador did make NFL history. became the second quarterback since 2000 to record four completions of 50 or more yards and each of their first three starts actually joining Aaron Rogers. So Mike, to your point, kind of saying

how that was essentially taken away from him because of the coaching decision. Do you feel like Stefancy's job is secure? Because I think to everyone at this point, I know I can't speak for everybody, but from what we're seeing, things are just looking real fishy. Things are looking just like, I don't understand why these moves are being made. Like, do you think job is fine or do you think like some things are going to start getting more question marks well what I'm allegedly these things I'm going to allegedly all of these things allegedly what we have here is the battle that we have a lot of times in the NFL any professional sports you know it's it's a battle of power

the GM from what I gather drafted and told you made sure they drafted Shador. After the head coach had already taken a quarterback two rounds before that, I don't think allegedly they really wanted him to draft Shador. I heard allegedly that he had said to his coaching staff, this would be a red shirt year for Shador. I remember even when he got drafted, I was messing around on a little podcast.

You know, I'm putting numbers together. and he was a 144th pit, and a 144, that's 12, you know, that, that's the seal that God gave. When he said, all of these are mine, and I said, there's no way you'll keep them off the field this year, because God's protecting him. He's going to make a weight, and he has made that way, and now he's playing the way he's playing, and it does look like somebody's trying to stop it. That's what happens, though. That battle between a GM and a head coach, that gets nasty. It can go all the way up to a head coach and an owner who was the GM. Remember, I sat right in the middle of that.

And them joker losing. So it's going to be easy to get rid of that coach. We were coming off back to back Super Bowls, and they got rid of that coach. So, yeah, you better believe somebody's job in jeopardy. Yeah. And is that question set, just so I answer it correctly. Yeah, basically, do you feel like Sifansky's job is secure or it's not looking good? I don't know, because is he the one making these decisions?

Right. You know what I'm saying? Not only the record you said, Sador broke, he's the first rookie this season to pass for over 300 yards. Like, you don't get a nigga a chance to win the fucking game? I don't know. I don't know. It's just everything looks fishy. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's one of them situations where when somebody does something even, like, let's say it's a crime committed and you know it's a criminal around, even if the criminal didn't do it, you look guilty because you're a criminal, nigger. That's how it comes to. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm going to sit down and talk to you, nigga. Yeah, yeah.

What would you do? Exactly. That's exactly what it looked like. So I don't want to put a blame on the nigger, but yo, if it's a, if it smell like shit, It's probably shit, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you take the thing out and Shador said it, you know, we practice this thing.

Which, like you said, that's what he supposed to say. You know, damn what the fuck? You know what the real-life nigga wanted to be like, what the fuck is this nigga doing, man? You know, I know he called a friend or family member, pops, whoever. Your nigga, why out the fuck out today doing that? He told somebody he loved.

You know what I'm saying? Somebody he loved. He told the nigga he's out of pocket. Glad he said we were supposed to say publicly, absolutely, but we all seen it. You're bugging. So I don't know if his jobs in jeopardy or not because it's one of those situations where let's say he do

get fired and he'd do an interview. Well, that was coming from upstairs. Right. Then he thought on another nigga. I don't know. I don't know. I remember listening to Warren Sapp talked one time about

thinking it was what the Raiders he's playing with. And he's talking about God bless the dead, the old Davis, the old night, the son who runs in the owner how he was making calls from the skybox talking about the hell man he was talking about he was making plays from the sky not even the gym the owner telling the nigga yo we want to go long pause yo my niggas you don't know what the fuck be going on you know what I'm saying so I don't want to put that on them but it looks it looks bad it looks bad man definitely does okay y'all we're going to go to break when we return we will discuss the Steelers

than the Chiefs. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Tonight, the Chargers will play the Eagles. Underdog has Jalen Hertz at 192 and a half passing yards. Do you have them higher or lower cam? Lower. Okay. We got Saquan Barclay at 70 and a half rushing yards. Do you have them higher or lower? Lower. Okay. And Justin Herbert is at 213 and a half passing yards.

Higher or lower. Hi. Okay, make sure y'all download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So the Steelers beat the Ravens 27 to 22. Mike, how important was the Steelers win? I thought it was a very important win. You know, the Steelers needed to get that confidence. And it looked like that's what they got back in that victory because that was a hard fault game, too.

Always any time you get those EFC North battles like that, It was a tough game. But Ann Rogers, gets him a touchdown, go does this issue, no discount double check. I saw Coach Tomlin over there, discount double-checking. Oh, yeah. I said, okay, they're feeling good over here. You know, they were feeling good. And what was important, what was the most important thing I thought was getting D.K.

Matt Cab really going, you know. And I saw Ann Rogers talking about that after the game, you know, talking about how. you know, how hard he's been working and, you know, he hasn't had the year he wanted it. And he said, hell, we all haven't had the year we want. But it felt good getting him that kind of game that he had. But that was an important win. That was a very important win.

But we do style have to question something going on with the Lamar Jackson situation in the Baltimore situation over there. But for Pittsburgh, for Pittsburgh, that was a very good win. And the defense did show up. Remember the defense in Pittsburgh? You guys, the staple for what it was, the staple for what it's always been.

The last couple of games just hadn't shown that. They showed up and played better today. I didn't give him Pittsburgh, no motherfucking props. Amar Jackson's hurt. We see it. Niggas hurt, man. They can't run.

He can't scrabble. He throwing interceptions when he shouldn't be throwing interceptions. He should be running when he's not run. Pittsburgh ain't shit. They all right. I mean, they ain't nothing special. You're playing against a fucking hobble MVP. That's just that.

I don't care, I don't care. I don't care. We see it. Mike said it. I'm glad he said it because that's my whole take. I'm not getting in the depth about the game. Lamar Jackson's hurt. We see it.

Guys, make the face as you want. I don't care. He's hurt. G.J. Metcalf finally had a great game. Aaron Rogers looked good. Whoopty fucking do. Congratulations. It's great.

Lamar Jackson been hurt half the fucking season, but he's played or not played. He's been hurt. Healthy Lamar Jackson, you're not talking about the Steelers. You was just shitting on D.J. McCaff, saying he is and I'm not sure about him,

this, that, third. You know, do you like Aaron Rogers? I'm not sure the quarterback what we need and this time and the third. Mike Tomlin's on the hot seat, and I'm not saying that I want to, I don't want him to coach anymore. You know, he's black.

this that third and now you come in here with a Steelers jersey on talking about i'm happy this week you just threw them niggins under the bus like yes that shut take yeah do you think that do you have fun do you know what rage bait is i know exactly what raise bait is that's what cams doing can't is trying to provoke me talking about oh lamar jackson's heard and the stealers aren't shit and you said this last week and I think he's just mad because his team lost and that's okay. I am mad about that. And that's okay because I was mad the other week too. It happens.

But you know what matters? We are at the top of the AMC noise. I want to sing a little dance. I want to dance a little bit and I want to sing a little bit because everybody was getting on my ass last week and it doesn't matter. Because at the end of the day, a win is a win. And versus the Ravens, that win helps us. I know I said some things about Aaron Rogers,

but I always came back to the fact that as long as he is our quarterback, I will support him. I've said some things about his age. The age isn't showing this game. He had a rushing touchdown. He was moving them legs. He was doing what he had to do, okay? D.K. Matt Cap definitely showed up for us as well.

And I know the Ravens are like, well, we were supposed to. to get a touchdown that was overturned. It doesn't matter because the rule stands. It was not a football play. So that play ain't gonna work and it don't matter because it worked for us. So I don't care. What he has to say right now

because he's just gonna get on me because he can be mad and then that's fine. I'm not mad at y'allel. I'm mad that absolutely mad to Cincinnati loss. Now let's do two things real quick. Okay. Let's discuss exactly what Raysbate is. Real quick.

What is, I know what Raysbate is, but I'm asking stat. What is Raysbate? I feel like it's when you use these key terms and these phrases to say things to provoke me to make me mad. He's just like, you know what? Let me just say everything bad about the Steelers because I know that this is Stats team and they won. So I'm just going to say this because to me, it doesn't matter because they're ass. When you hear that, why would I want to hear that? I'm up here and I'm going to stay up here,

especially as long as the week goes because I got the whole week to be happy about it. So I'm here. I'm here. I think that is a great definition of raised bait. I think you couldn't explain raise bait any better. I think that's great. What I'm doing is saying facts.

Now, if my facts is raised baiting you, I'm sorry about that because everything I said was a whole fact. You're sitting on D.K. he took him out. We should have got rid of Pickers. See what he doing in Dallas. Aaron Rogers is old. This is what you said. Mike Tomlin, I'm not ready to pull the plug on Mike Tomlin. But, you know, you wouldn't say it, but you was on the verge of saying we may need something

different. That's what you said without saying it. So what you said, and I repeat what you said is rage baiting you, don't say shit to make me say shit to rage bait you because I'm just repeating what you said from last week. Now it's a good week. and now we decayed out. Pause. We just was mad at Pickens for being in Dallas.

But I'm raised bad. Yes. Okay. Let me say two things can be true at the same time. I am still upset about Pickens being with the Cowboys. Mike, shout out to y'all because I always was a Pickin supporter. But since Cam wants to start with the facts, shout out Maurice, because we can talk facts. One, our playoff odds are still way better than y'alls.

And since y'all want to talk about injuries, and stuff, our quarterback is still healthier and a better position right now because Joe Burrow, unfortunately, and nobody wants, nobody likes to see football when great quarterbacks are hurt. I will preface that right now. Like, the game is better when Joe Burrow is playing. The game is better when Lamar Jackson is playing. The game is better when you have these elite quarterbacks playing.

At the end of the day, like we have said from the beginning of time, the best ability is availability and we got that right now. So regardless of what he got to say, we got this win. We got this win and that's all I'm worried about. Thank you. Let me ask you. Thank you. Did y'all go to play on last year? Thank you. Thank you. We're talking about this year and this season where we going, which is farther than where y'all are going. Just asking me, you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not beefing or none. I'm just asking. beefing. I see. Because we started with rage bait, so now we hear.

I didn't raise baits you. That's all. Right, right. I didn't raise bait you. I just repeated what you said. You wouldn't know what raised bait is? My opinion of raise bait is what I'm talking about Mike's poncho. That's rage bait. You know, that's what I'm teasing

a nigga with they wearing. Everything else. I'm just repeating the facts. And my facts raise baits you, oh well, I'm sorry. I guess I raised bait a lot of these niggas. That's why niggins be bad out. Let me tell you what you're doing, Chal. I'll tell you my definition of rage bait, and two things can't be true.

She is honestly right on that because it ain't, you are dropping facts, but you're dropping them around trigger words. These trigger words, you're triggering people with the facts. So it's rage, babe. You can't use trigger words to bet, instead of just saying, instead of just giving me the victory, you got to. And speak the fact, yeah, y'all won, y'all want, but you know, you'll trigger word me. And now I'm at a place where I can't even hear you. I'm just waiting to talk because I'm enraged. You understand what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. And she's right. That's, you know what I'm saying. Then we can just use antagonizing. It's all type of words we can use, man. Everybody can make up their words. She won't use raise, but you want to use trigger words. I'll say I'm antagonizing.

Whatever. It's the facts. Whatever word you want to use is the fact. It doesn't matter. Congratulations this week. We'll see what we had in week 17. That's all I wanted. You got it.

And I'm satisfied. Last thing I will add, though, this is just also just a good win for the Steelers because I think it also makes Mike Tomlin look better because a lot of people were questioning his job security. Including you. No, I wasn't. Including you.

Because I never said I wanted Mike Tom want to go. You asked me. You tried. You tried to get an answer out of me. You wanted me to say I wanted him to go. I never said I wanted Mike Tomlin. That was clear. You could roll that clip back too.

So I would just say, in honor of Mike Tomlin, I'm happy that they got this win because they needed that to show people that. That's crazy. That is crazy. Well, well, well, we could be crazy, but we still won. That's all I'm worried about.

I'm good. I'm good. I'm great, actually. Okay. Me answering my own question. You didn't ask me if I'm good or great, but I'm going to tell y'all. Okay, that's okay. Next, this would be another rage rate question, technically, but he's not here because funny how, you know, Mace just isn't here. But it happens. And we're not going to skip past it. We're still going to ask him. But the Texans beat the Chiefs 20 to 10. Mike, are the Chiefs cooked? What do you think?

I know people don't want to actually mention. I think about the Chief of the playoffs without Patrick Mahon. But it's going to be very difficult for them to get into playoffs now. And this game last night, they're going to talk about it all day. They're going to talk about two things. They'll talk about the decision and the read made to go for deep in his own territory when that score was tied 10-10. And I thought, who was that? And, yeah, Chris, Chris, Chris did the game and Sunday night football.

Chris did the game. He did Chris Collins work. And I thought he did a great job at explaining it from the coach's perspective. You know, when you look at Demico Ryan, who both, both defenses were playing superb. We're playing superb. That was a tough game. Kansas City defense had locked down and was giving. Oh, man, they were giving.

They were given Houston. fits. In Houston, defense was given the chief fits. So for him to make that decision right there to go for a fourth and one and a half was mind-blowing. But Andy's the offensive coach, office of minding, office of head coach. He wants to win and get his offense going because that's his name. That's his game. That's his brand. Demico Ryan is perfectly happy in a game like this because his defense. That's his name. that's his game. That's his brand. And he kept, he didn't mind playing great defense and punting. Let's keep punting. Let's keep punting. And he shouldn't have punted. And he

should have punted that ball because his defense had been playing great. That's number one. This is other thing, too, that they'll be bringing up. Because whenever a dynasty is falling, everybody's going to look for a reason or something to point to and why it isn't right. And And I don't, you know, I love this dude more than anybody in the NFL. But they pan to Travis Kelsey. And it looked like, you know, they had, first they gave the front view. And he wasn't moving. And, you know, I said, people going to be talking about, he fell asleep on the sideline.

And then they came from the side view later on. And maybe he was in a deep thought. But it's going, when people are looking for something, somebody to believe, you know, when there's every, expect, dying, you're sling down the hill. All the grade got you a clump thing, you know, put it here, dissipate very fast.

And now we go, oh, I get you're going to say, is it traveling around with, with Taylor's will for something? All, they're going to come up with stuff. I don't know what it is, but if you're too tired to play, all of that. And, yeah, so I'm a little worried about that. But that's what they'll talk about. But the big play on the field was Andy making that decision to go for it on fourth

and one and a half, you know, having faith in his offense and it didn't work out. Yeah, listen, it's tough to watch every week. Not tough, not really tough. I guess if you're a chief fan, that's tough. That's the wrong word to use. But more amazing because, look, this is the first time. in a decade the Chiefs aren't going to win division. That's just a fact that they're not going to win division.

I don't want to raise bait Mace, even though he's not here, because I'm saying a fact that they're actually not going to win the division. Do they stop and make chances and win the playoffs? Yeah, but teams got to lose, they got to win the games. It's a long shot. It really is a long shot. Same way, it's a long shot for Dallas Cowboys to make the playoffs or the Cincinnati Bengals. all of us

this is really a long shot. We know the Redskins aren't going to make the playoffs. Statt, enjoy your high horse this week and everybody else. But on a serious note, one thing I'll say, Mike, you made a great point about everything you talked about the game. Let's give the Houston, Texas, and credits too. Because we thought this team might have been over with.

This is five games in a row. And when C.J. Stratt was hurt. We were like, oh, this season is basically over for them. and giving Nigo the credit, they won five in a row, and they're looking good to make a playoff push as well coming up towards the end of the season.

But the last thing I'll say, they might capture everything that we need to talk about. I just want to give Patrick Mahomes so much credit, bro. He didn't have a great game. He threw for 160 yards, three interceptions, no touchdown.

But you see the effort. You see him trying. You see this nigga just scrambling, trying to get the ball of doing. everything he can. These niggas is down 10 points with 40 seconds left on their own 30. He gets a 10-yard pass. No timeouts. He running, trying to clock the ball with 15 seconds left. You down 10 on your own 40. He's still playing. Pat, what the fuck are you doing? It's over, nigga. It's over. But that nigga's a dog, bro. And he played to the very end of the game.

So as much credit as we give Patrick Mahomes, he deserves it. Because you can. You can see that he was upset, he doesn't want to lose. When you play that hard, down 10 points with 15 seconds left, and you still trying to figure some shit out, you're crazy, nigga. You absolutely, I like shit, they're crazy. You aren't your motherfucking mind, nigga, but God bless you, nigga. God bless the, nigga. But it don't look good for the cheese.

And out there, out there camp on one leg. Yeah. I mean, when thinking about coming out the game, they already gave you a half a billion dollars, You can say, I take this leg and let this go. These jokes like him messing around. He were fighting like a dog. You know what I was thinking about when I watched that game too?

I said, wow, this right here is good for Houston to see. Because though this is not the same team, and I'm talking about the Kansas to the Chief. And the kid mentioned it. See, they mentioned it after the game. You see the fight that that dude got in him. Yeah, man. That's what you're trying to teach a young team that's trying to do something.

Do something. Look at this fight. We can't put, we can't put this rabbit dog down. He keep coming back. He's on the sideline with a brace on his knee. Then he has to scoot up the middle of the field. He gets hit. You, he limping like he's about to limp off. He rolls right on back to that hurdle and set hook and do it again. It was like, it was like, with your young talent, if you learn to fight like this joker, you'll do something. That's what I was thinking about. And that was the atmosphere. fear. It's hard to win in Kansas City because they're all that all their backs was against the wall. Even the fans made you feel that. So that was a great win for Houston. It's right of you to give them credit. I know we talk a lot about Patrick Mahomes on the national scene. But DeMico Ryan, that's a hell of a job. Yeah, absolutely. Definitely got to give the Texans credit and then back real quick, Cam, to your point. So the cheese had a season high of six drops and then four of them were on third downs. Yes. Yes, look at it. Not the best. Okay. So So before we were at, Mike, I know we started with the highs with Miami making the playoffs.

And trust me, I'm with you there. You know, we are real excited, but got to go back to the poncho because we happen. You know, we all got to face the audience and talk about what happened. So saw the Cowboys lost to the Lions 44 to 30. Mike, where is the poncho? And what were your takeaways from that loss? Buncho's like anywhere near me right now. I bet it ain't.

I bet the shit ain't. Yeah, I bet the shit ain't. Bet you don't know where that shit at. He's saying. Oh, man, I could have turned that poncho into some real business of the company that made it wrong, man. I could have put them things in every store everywhere. Mike already had the vision. But, man, I, you know, I was surprised with that game.

I knew what Detroit was going to bring, because I'm telling you, though, I remember going to Detroit and playing there. I told you, gosh, it's so hard to play in a place like that, that Dome, Detroit, New Orleans, because the crowd goes crazy when the Cowboys come in there. Like, you know, they just go crazy. And it's hard to hear. I thought on a football field, playing-wise, I didn't expect Detroit to be able to run on Dallas. the way they did and had a phenomenal game against Dallas. And on the backside, I need it more out of the George Picking situation. And you guys saw Richard Sherman and George going back and forth on social media

because he was talking about the effort. And George was kind of saying that basically I'm getting what we used to call the Michael Irving coverage. I used to call it the Michael Irving coverage. You know, that means they'll have a cornerback on you within five, six, seven yards, and everybody only see him. But they'll always have the safety over top.

So basically, you're rarely ever going to get that football. You're rarely ever going to get that football, especially if the safety leans all the way over. And that's why George was saying, well, if he knows football, he should know football. But I used to have that coverage all the time, but you still have to run it out. You have to run it out and run it out all you can and all you have because you never know if you get those opportunities. And especially in a game where you're down like that, you know, you have to run hard.

Say you say you're up 30 points or 20 points and you're running calling the play and that safety runs all the way over. and you decide to, okay, there's no way I'm getting this ball just by the coverage, the coverage dictating it. So I'll run, but I'm not going to give it everything. Then that's one thing. But when you're down looking for a chance, there's no, there's no anything. You've got to run hard.

And that came to him twice in those situations and then make plays that I thought that was a big takeaway from that. You know, no matter what, without both of those guys and that Prescott rolling, we just have a, we don't have a chance. And I said that at the beginning of the year. Oh, man. All right. All right.

All right. By letting Jack B, by let that play MVP. But that means also, that also means that the boys on the outside have to play like MVP's. You just talked about it. Stag just talked about it. Why it's okay now, Camp, you didn't do all of that when they came up with six drops from the chance to the chief. But when I say, oh, okay, now these guys, you have to play great,

so that can do what that do. Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Well, you see what I'm saying? Why was that? When she says six drops from the chief, you didn't say anything. You know why, Mike? Nobody else sitting here. Oh, yeah, pause. You know what's, you know what's crazy, Mike? Nobody else had a poncho on. Nobody else said it's magic in my head. Nobody said, nobody said, You, listen, when we rose up and woke up this morning, we felt that we was going to do it. You see our new defense can? You got clowning here.

The defense makes the difference. You know what happened? We brought them boys in, and did you see our defense lately? Have you seen it? Niggas rang 44 points up on that bum-ass defense, man. Listen, man, no, this is why I did all that because nobody else is going this dramatic. And listen, man, I love that you love your teams

and the passion. I don't see the fire. Now the fire is from Miami. Shit is hard. The whole shift, there was a whole miracle that's going to happen. And you see when we galvanize

and come together, you know, a whole lot of shit with you, Mike. And then don't wonder why I don't get that. Look, everybody else is not in here preaching. I've seen the day on your Instagram.

You know, if y'all, if y'all people out there don't follow, follow Mike Irvin, Michael Irvin, 88 on Instagram. Very entertaining. The man comes out of church yesterday and said, the Lord just put us in. Yeah.

The playoffs, the gods, I haven't even walked out of church yet. And I see the playoff pitching for Miami. This is why, Mike, this is why niggas be like this with you, man. This is why, bro. This is exactly why, because it's so dramatic and it's so crazy that when it don't go right, you already got your speech ready for what. when shit don't go right.

That's why, man. That's why I didn't do it with the toe way I'll get Mace tomorrow. But this is why I didn't do all that. This is why I'm huffing and puffing when you start doing this shit talking about well, you got to realize with that. You get real, you know,

I didn't know you had this degree and you got all these words that you've been using, very educated, speak very articulate, very good. You ain't fooling me with that shit, man. You're not. I ain't going for it, Mike. Y'all niggas is out,

And y'all, and the magic is left the building, man. David Blaine is gone. That's why I didn't say nothing when the chiefs did that, man. We got, we got, we got, you see, we are not quite. You tried to throw us in with your pain. You know, I understand what you said. Well, you know, the chief ain't going to win. You can forget about it.

You could have went on in Cincinnati, ain't going to win. Then you forget about it. But our story. aim over until the Eagles play tomorrow. If the Eagles somehow loses that game, we right back just square one. We just got a shorter distance to run the race. You see what I'm saying?

So since we all said, had that game, I still got this much hope. And what you were talking about this morning when I was in church, we were singing that song, you know, I sought the Lord and he answered. That's what the song. I sought the Lord and he answered.

But he answered my prayer. He answered my prayers, the right games that got played Saturday needed to be played, needed to be won the right way. And then I told him to touch his, just touches that committee. And he touched that committee. And before he said, hey, you know what they tell you, say, God, don't, he's going to see, he's going to answer your prayer. But he didn't make me wait on it.

I couldn't even get home, he answered, because the phone kept ringing and binging and being in church. I said, oh, my God, God, you that good? I got up and did the Holy Ghost dance. I said, you're going to answer the prayer. Before I get out of church, the Holy Ghost that thing, right over out of there. So, you know, I'm just saying, man, I need him to answer some prayer. Well, you know what, if that's the case. When we answer prayer tonight and Philly losing? Well, listen, Mike, if we're doing all that, we're not eliminated out the playoffs need,

but technically we still have a chance to Cincinnati Bengals. We're not eliminated. We're not eliminated. Not yet. If that's what we're going to do, if we're going to do imaginary this much chance, we still got, you got this much chance, we got this much chance.

I'm just saying. Yeah, but you lost ground. You lost ground. But you lost ground. We're not the same. You had two people. You had two people in front of you, and they happened to play each other.

Now, of those two played someone else and both lost, then you didn't lose ground. But since they played each other, one walked away with a victory. That means you lost ground. So we are not tantamount in these situations. We are not equal to here. I can't see what I mean.

I only had one person ahead of me and I have to find out tomorrow if, I mean, I find out tonight if we lost ground. I'm just being technical with it, because what you said, what were you saying is that? These are the facts. you raised baiting Mike you're raised baiting man

you raise baiting man you're on the face well that is all the time that we have for today as you'll see Mike I'm not wearing a poncho so y'all gonna see this jersey because hey I'm not holding on the hope I got more than hope right now

Mike you know it's always a pleasure to have you on the show I love y'all you guys straight on Greg take your seven days you know what I'm saying you know we always think about seven days I hope we don't lose to the damn dolphins like right hey boy I'm don't look pretty good now you're messing around you messing things happen every Miami things happen every week but I'm feeling good about this we play yeah we play a dolphins next week so but is Miami or

Pittsburgh do you guys know I think it's in Miami it's in my oh yeah oh yeah Oh, okay, you're right. You got that game. You're right. No, because every time you say, uh-uh, I need that out. Because every time you say that, you're like, oh, there's no way. There's a slim chance that they went. And then, so we're just gonna pretend this didn't happen.

And like the poncho was out the way and we're good. We're just gonna keep it here. So I don't need none of that, none of that. None of that. No, Jim Singh, nothing. You don't want none of that mojo. Okay. But you can, we can keep it for Miami though.

It always works for Miami and we'll just keep it there. Amen. Right. I understand. I understand. All right. Y'all, y'all stay up, man. All right, Mike, this too.

Again, congratulations on that, man, being in the ring, man. And getting that logo in the ring, man. Thank you so much, man. Thank you, brother. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Bex