IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN SNAPS ON THE UNLV QB FOR LEAVING HIS TEAMMATES OUT TO DRY & WEEK 4 PREVIEW

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, we doing here, hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in the hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion, hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he counting money, he said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches, welcome man I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga, black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 Treasurer Wilson aka Sat Baby along with your host Mace and Cam. Marta what up man? Killa was good man. Good how you man? Really good man. That's what's up. Great. Today we are joined with our analyst Michael Irvin. Mike what's going on Wise Cell?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Hey man hey just kicking it, man. I'm feeling real good. Things are going good, you know, like I told you. We back at the altar getting ready to play tomorrow night again, so I'm good. Shhh, shh, shh. That's crazy right here, boy. Mike, pause.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You don't quit, man. I'm ready, man. Hey, listen. I need them jokers winning. I just opened this sports bar. I can't come in on all these losing games. Mike, are you gonna be at the sports bar tomorrow? I am going to be, I'm here now. I'm here now.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I just came here that will go stale for, yeah I'll be here tomorrow to watch the game and then I'll fly out the head down to Miami. We need to shoot a show at one of the, at the Sports Bowl one before the season's over, man. Mmm. Absolutely, dog. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:15 At least it's definitely gonna be. I'll send that up. Yeah, set us up, man. We gonna come down there before the season's over. We gonna get that thing together, man. We're gonna come down there before the season's over. We're gonna get that thing together, man. Bless it. I never actually worked, talked the game of football, sat around like I'm sitting around here, playmakers.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And I just told my God, bring me a drink. I'm gonna just sit it right here, you know what I mean? That's it. She like me chillin'. Mike, you got trophies in there, Mike? Cause you know I only go places with his trophies, Mike. No, I didn't bring trophies in here, man.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I didn't want to bring all those trophies in here, because a lot of them dudes don't have that many trophies. And I didn't want to make them mad. You know what I'm saying? With all the trophies I got. No. No. No. No. No. No. Yo, Mike.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You had to make it loser friendly? Is that what I'm hearing? Right. You made it loser friendly, Mike? Right. Right, right. Well, not loser's friendly, but you know, an acceptable place. Acceptable place for all people.
Starting point is 00:03:27 For all people. Sometimes people get intimidated with that. You know what I'm saying? They really do and I worry about it, you know. I don't even wear one of my rings. I don't wear a ring. I tell people all the time, come on, start playing. Man, you guys know, if you win one ring,
Starting point is 00:03:41 then you remind everybody by wearing it all the time. But when you want as many as I have they know you got them you believe me to close There you go. Okay, so before we get into our predictions for this upcoming week Mace you are still in the Mmm for your So want to make that clear? I'm wait wait wait, let Mike hear this again, since he's supposed to be the football expert.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Mike, can you listen to what Snad has to say right now? I got it. Okay. Yeah, so Mace is still in the lead for his NFL game predictions. I am keeping count, so let's see if it changes this next week, but you are in the lead, Mason. What is my record?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah, you have 12 games correct out of 15. My goodness, Mike. Does it get any better than that? I pause, I know you're the new kid in this school, but are you starting to get the grasp of this new school that's going on here? this new school that's going on here? I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. I knew he would drop off on that. On my 12 out of 15, you know? Big D is what I'm going through. Perfect timing. And he's back.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Let me, let me, did you think that I just dropped because you winning this year? Yeah. That's the only way I could have taken that, Mike. You know, he would drop off when I'm 12 out of 15. But who knows, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, pretty good. He's put 12 out of 15 right there. Yeah. Pretty good. Okay, so let's get started. The Cowboys will play the Giants tonight. Both teams are one and two. If the Cowboys lose this game,
Starting point is 00:05:42 when do you start to question their legitness, Mike? I'm telling you, if they lose this game, it's going to be, it's a wrap. I don't know if you guys have looked at the schedule after this game. I'm sick. I think it's the toughest schedule I've ever seen in the history of the National Football League. The next six, seven games the Cowboys have to play. I'm telling you, look at their schedule and talk about it. And even when you look at it, you thought you looked at things like Washington Commanding and say, okay, maybe that's an easy win. But now you're seeing what they look like. That game is a tough game now that they killed Jane Daniels. So yeah, I believe
Starting point is 00:06:29 now they get the win tonight. I was worried. I was worried before before CD came out and made that apology, you know, and said he's going to do better. But now that he did that and everything's feeling good around here, they'll take out the Giants, but it's the schedule after that that's scary. Man, the Cowboys need this win so bad, Mike. I mean, the last time they played the Giants,
Starting point is 00:06:54 they beat them 49-17, so they cannot afford to lose this game. This is one of those games they're counting on winning. And I don't know how you really come up with the things you come up with, Mike. You say this is the hardest schedule they have after this ever in football. Like these are new teams, Mike. I'm not knowing where you're coming from with this. How do you how do you calculate that?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Go through that schedule, that schedule, what we know right now, football, on what we know and what, football, what we know and what the teams look like right now, that is as tough a schedule as I've seen for what the Cowboys have to face. So yeah, you've got to start with this little mountain, but they got a huge mountain once they get past this mountain. So real quick, let me read the schedule. So after the Giants, they play the Steelers, then the Lions, then the 49ers, then the Falcons. I don't know about the Falcons,
Starting point is 00:07:49 but the rest seem pretty, pretty steep, you know. Three out of four sound like my bracket, Mike. Did you not see Atlanta, Atlanta, and then Philadelphia coming up after that, right? Yeah. And then Houston. Right. Oh yeah, you right right. You're right
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's a tough sketch that's a tough stick Mike so what? America's team right it's all America's team? Ain't the games in America? Yeah. What are you talking about, Mike? Yeah, give or get that nigger. The games are in America, and y'all are America's team. I don't want to hear that shit, Mike. You know what, Alvin, we've been talking about you
Starting point is 00:08:38 since you left. How does it feel to be tied with the Washington Commanders for second place in the division? How does that feel? Man, with the Washington commanders for second place in the division? How does that feel? I'm telling you man. And the Giants as we speak matter of fact. That team looks so, Washington I'm worried about.
Starting point is 00:08:55 They looked so good the other night. I mean, that kid looked so good. That throw he made was incredible. And what was scary is how much fun they looked like they had planned. You know what I mean? That's the scary thing, when you're having that kind of fun, because it gets contagious,
Starting point is 00:09:11 and everybody expect great things. I think they're doing a great job. I think they're doing a great job in Washington. That's a scary team. Well, yeah, we'll see what happens. You know, my original team when I was a kid was Washington with John Regans and Art Monk and Joe Theismann. I had the Washington Reds.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, that was my team back when I was a child. But I don't- Well, let me tell y'all something. DC, KMGC, he's one of a- Gary Clark was one of them. That was my team when I was like six or seven years old. And I think looking right now, if y'all don't beat the Giants tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:09:49 there's a chance y'all may finish last in the division. What do you think about that? Can't even think about it. I can't even come up with an answer. Can't even get it out. Mike can't even come up with an answer. I can't even get it out. Mike can't even come up with an answer. You can't even get it out. Listen man, I ain't lying man. I ain't lying man.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Did you hear what I said? Man, I just opened this restaurant. Man, I need to be honest with you. You're joking. But I am being honest. You're making, I'm telling you, I'm worried about all of that, man, when you see what you've seen, and especially if CD didn't come clean today and said what he said, that's the only hope they got.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's been averaging about 35, 38 points a game here over the last three years. He went from Amare to Seedy becoming his number one and all of that, and still produced those kinds of numbers. That's the only chance you got. That's the only chance you got. Because that, I call it the Oprah Winfrey defense. That's Oprah Winfrey defense where you rush the 200 yards.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You rush the 200, you, you, you, everybody get 200 yards. That's the only thing right there. Well look, you talk about how Washington having fun had fun last week, and to be totally honest with you, when I seen the Giants last week, it looked like they were having fun. You know we up here a lot make fun of Derring Jones, but he had an exceptional game last week,
Starting point is 00:11:21 236 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, and sometime winning is contagious. Would I carry on to next week because losing is also contagious, and y'all lost last week. So I'm looking forward to actually watching this game and see what happens because if the Giants could gain some momentum by beating you guys, the division should be a really, really fun
Starting point is 00:11:43 division this year, and not necessarily for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm talking about for the Washington Commanders, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the New York Giants, if they could get a win over the Dallas Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow. Yep. Now, it was nice the way in which you constructed that whole thing, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:59 It really was. Oh, yeah, I put it together nice, huh? You like that. The way you put it all together and everything. Listen, I put it together nice, huh? You like that. The way you put it all in there, you got it in everything. Listen, Mike, real quick. It wasn't my antithesis. Ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:12:11 Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha! I was trying to get you to say it. Yeah, yeah. The antithesis being the opposite of. Yeah, I know. But you pointed at something that was very important and you slid it in there like it was a telltale and let me tell you what you said you said daniel
Starting point is 00:12:32 jones looked good last week and that team now they look like they were having fun but the difference it is between jane daniels looking good last week and having fun. And Daniel Jones looking good last week and having fun. All them dudes on Washington saying, oh my God, we got some, boy, we about to be on our way right now. All them dudes on New York saying, oh, we done saw this shit before. He may go ahead and throw shit because Intercept is tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You see what I'm saying? So one team may be more sold a little bit more than the other, because Daniel Jones has hit that up and down thing. Sounds good today. Mike, you can say whatever you want. You know, I texted Deon. Yeah, we'll see you on Monday morning when we talk. But I talked to Deon real quick.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I said, Mike could just find any way to make the Cowboys look good. I don't know. It doesn't matter what it is. He'll find a way. And Deon just takes back always. It don't matter what's going on. Now you're going to shit on Daniel Jones, good game,
Starting point is 00:13:43 and his shit can't be contagious because they play the Cowboys That's crazy. That's crazy Mike. You do know that's good Oh the Cowboys have won the Cowboys have won and beaten the Giants so much over the last few years The numbers are I Brian coach the boys never beaten the Cowboys the coach they have right now is the head coach So, you know, it's just things are pretty lenient. If they now, now, that baby said something. If they lose this game, it could be the beginning of some real issues
Starting point is 00:14:16 because I'm telling you, you go into this game, you have to win this game before you hit that season, that schedule. Well, they haven't beat them, Mike. So that means they about due. Yeah. That's what happens. That's my philosophy.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Why I don't get up. Right twice a day, baby. I'm telling you that right now. It's only, they seem like they might be due, Mike. Right. That's my philosophy at Space Mountain when I took the kids to Disney World. Baby, tried to get me to go on them. Come on, Dad, nothing ever happened. Right. That's my philosophy at Space Mountain when I took the keys to Disney World.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Tried to get me to go on. Come on, Dad, nothing ever happened. And we asked the ladies, he said, we hadn't had an accident. Twenty five years. I said, thank you. Y'all do. I ain't going to do that. Thank you. OK, so the 0 and 3 Jaguars will play the Texans for this AFC South matchup. Do you guys see this becoming the Jags' fourth loss, Mike? Yeah, man, I hope.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I did this little skit, I did a little motivational speech for the Jags today on the TV show Speak. And you know what I mean. I want them to win just so I can say my speech did it. You see what I'm saying? My speech did it. But the problem for them is they're playing the Texans who just got drod. So yeah, there's no way I don't see them winning this game. Though the Jacks, Jack got a lot coming, man, because they get a lot of money, and Doug Peterson is a very good coach. I don't understand why they're struggling
Starting point is 00:15:49 the way they're struggling. They got a pretty good team, but yeah, they gotta do some things. So yeah, the Jax aren't winning this football game. Texans are. Yeah, I agree with you. The Texans definitely gonna win this game, because it's Childhats to have a big bounce back game I agree with you. The Texans definitely gonna win this game because you know,
Starting point is 00:16:05 Stroud has to have a bounce, big bounce back game from last time. And the reason why the Jack was losing, I mean, I know they got a good team, but their top linebacker is out, Alukin is out. So that's probably playing into why they're losing. Yo Mike, let me ask you a question, right?
Starting point is 00:16:26 So, we all know that Jacksonville is under the rest right now, talking about as far as coaching the players, et cetera. We talked about it when you wasn't on the show. Let me ask you your opinion. Let's say they lose their next two games. And I agree with you guys before I move on. I think that the Texans will win.
Starting point is 00:16:46 They know that they're one of these teams being watched this season, and they have higher expectations than last year. So I'm gonna pick the Texans as well. But I want to ask you a question, Mike. Let's say they lose the next two or three games. We were talking about it on the show when you weren't here, that Mack Jones is actually from Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Mack Jones didn't have a really bad season, his first season when he was with the Patriots. He finished 10 and seven. I think his QBR was at 67%. I'm not sure exactly, 66.9. I had it written down on my notes. I don't have it in front of me right now. He's not a bum.
Starting point is 00:17:22 They're paying Trevor Lawrence $55 million a year. If these guys start off 0 and 5, would you consider putting Mac Jones in? And let's say Mac, so this is a two part question. That's A, would you consider putting Mac Jones in if they start off 0 and 5, 0 and 6? And secondly, if Mac Jones does good, what do you do with a $55 million a year quarterback?
Starting point is 00:17:44 is good, what do you do with a $55 million a year quarterback? Well, you'll get some trade opportunities. I don't know if you ever recovered a value, especially just like what we're talking about with Bryce Young right now. You make them the first pick overall and things don't work out. It's hard to recover that value. And they're saying, and they'll always say,
Starting point is 00:18:05 we don't want to trade them because the value goes down to zero if you say we want to trade them. So, you know, even Carolina said, no, we don't want to trade Bryce. They don't mean that. They just have to say that. And Jacksonville is in a bind because you're right, Cam, I mean, And Jacksonville is in a bind because you're right, Cam. I mean, Trevor Lawrence isn't playing great. I mean, that's a huge problem on why they are having the problem. But I thought they brought Doug Peterson in to bring him along, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:36 after going through what they went through with the other coaches, I'll leave that out. Well, after going through what they went through i thought he brought me in that's why i think they'll be more patient this year even i think he'll get through this year but if he doesn't turn it around and he's so signed then then yes the things may happen mid season but i don't know if they'll i don't think they'll ever put trev lawrence on the bench it just it'll kill hope It appealed hope. Even if you came in and made some plays like Miss Romania did and all of that stuff and you had a little bit of a run with Trevor Lawrence, I just don't think they're gonna put her on the bench. This was supposed to be
Starting point is 00:19:24 The greatest get at quarterback since, since, you know, since Andrew Luck was totally coming out and paid men and men even older. But Andrew Luck was supposed to be the perfect quarterback and this kid was supposed to be that. So they'll be patient with him. They're not gonna get rid of him. So if you're saying they get it off to, I'm just asking hypotheticallyetically a two and eight start,
Starting point is 00:19:46 they're keeping them in for the rest of the season. Yeah, they are going to do that. And they are going to do that. So we go get the test of the theory. See, you know what I'm saying. I think me personally, once I think that they're out of playoff contention, then we're going to see Mac Jones, my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And we still have a long way to go if that even happens. They could turn things around. Doesn't look that way. But I think that's- But then what are they doing to their own investment if they're seeing Mac Jones in a team? Think about this, on a team that's not going anywhere, we just gave 300 million to this kid.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So where are we going now? If we put Mac Jones in and somehow we have some kind of success, you see what I mean? That's gonna be more important. I totally agree with you, but I think that if this kid, Mac Jones, gets in and the Jaguars are somehow out of playoff contention, almost eliminated, that stadium will go crazy
Starting point is 00:20:46 They're a little rough and especially if he does good home home was always Gonna get favoritism when they play at home Derek Rose when he's in Chicago Ross Strickland Mark Jackson Lee playing when you play at home is something different and especially when you see when you succeed I agree with you. That's gonna send a bad message, especially for the amount of money they paid them. But I just think that stadium will lose their mind if Matt Jones gets in and plays well,
Starting point is 00:21:15 and then you're left with the $55 million quarterback on the bench question. Like I said, this all hypothetical, I wanted to get your opinion on it. Yeah, I actually- They got plenty of money over it. Yeah, I actually think Matt Jones should be put in probably like the fourth quarter just to shake things up.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So as he go to the next game, he comes back fired up to play. I think that'll light the fire under Trevor Lawrence because it won't be a lot of benching, but it'll pause or be enough to let him know that we are thinking about doing something that'll really ignite the fire on them. Okay. And then real quick, Mike, so looking at the AFC South division, do you feel like the Texans have any real competition? Oh, man, you're talking about the Indies.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Oh, man, you think about it. I think Indy, you know, I think I don't think the Texans have really any competition. I definitely think they're coming out of the AFC South. I think they're one of the best teams in AFC Conference all around. And no other team in there right now is really just no, no, I don't see any other team. They'll definitely win this out. Okay. Then what do you guys think? Cause you got the Texans, the Colts, the Titans and the Jags. You guys feel like the Texans are at the top of their division and will remain that way.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Mace? None of them teams are going anywhere. No other team, none of other teams. They should win that. Okay. I think they're definitely when the division Mike you while and when you talking about the conference Yeah, you gotta chill chill YSL Say I said I agree with you with the division but chill out with the conference now Chill out, you knows in the conference now. Chill out, you know who's in the conference. Yeah, like why would he say that?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Easy, easy Mike. Calm down, calm down. I know now you be in Texas, you do Texas out right now, relax. All right, you know who's in the conference. They're gonna be good, they may make a suck around the parents if they don't have a wild card appearance.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I think they're really good, but I think they're a year or two away. You gotta deal with, right now, my candidate leading the league for MVP, which is Josh Allen, you gotta still deal with Lamar Jackson. You know, we know they're one and two. You gotta deal with the big homie, Patrick Mahone.
Starting point is 00:23:43 It's a lot going on, Mike. Relax with the whole AFC conference, man. I like them. I'm always rooting for a black quarterback and a black coach. That's first and foremost. We gonna keep it black. That's me.
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's who I am. They up in that group, you just talked about him. They're right up in that group. I don't mind if you wanna put the Chiefs in the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Beals right there, but you got to put the Texans right behind them and the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Beals about the class heads right now. So they're right there. Okay. Okay. So let's actually talk about that game. So the Bills versus the Ravens, the Bills are three and oh and power rankings are saying they're the best NFL team after
Starting point is 00:24:30 the Chiefs. One Mike, do you agree with that statement? And then do you think that they can maintain this winning streak that they got going on? I think it's great that they have an opportunity when you watch the Bills play right now. And I love what I saw my man Josh Allen say, you know, when he play right now and I love what I saw my man Josh Allen say you know when he said yeah I love playing the game now I don't have to worry about forcing a ball somewhere or playing with guys that don't worry about the steps. Now they've done everything and we're able to beat the teams they they play but I think things change for them here in this Baltimore game.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I do like the Buffalo Bills. I think they're up in that group of top play or top teams in the AFC, but I'm not putting them above, uh, patching my homes in the chief. I'm not putting them above God over there. And then, you know, I'm gonna put it right in that group. And I think Baltimore gets that win even when they play, when they play this week. Uh, Sunday night, I'm gonna put it right in that group and I think Baltimore gets that win even when they play When they finish me I said, I think Baltimore gets to win Yeah, I just never I'm never sold on the bills no matter how well they play
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's just a a New York thing guys. Just New York Buffalo bills the New York Giants and New York Jets the New York Buffalo Bills, the New York Giants, the New York Jazz, the New York, just go down the list, New York. I think it stands for next year, like Killer used to always say, the NY stands for next year. It's always the next year.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And when you thinking about the Bills, they just never come through when it's time. It's been a very long time since they've been on that, on that level. You know, they always seem like they're going in something dramatic happens. That's just New York fashion and don't DM me cause I'm not going to answer it. I'm telling you how I feel and they're paying me to tell you this. So don't get mad at me. Get mad at it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Stat baby cam and the rest of the people here. We do got the Yankees and the New York Rangers. Yeah, I left them out. Yeah, they win once in a while. I even left the Mets out, you know? Yeah, we've been alive to see the Mets, the Yankees, and the Rangers. We're not old enough, Mike, to see the Knicks one. We've never seen the Knicks win a championship.
Starting point is 00:26:51 We've never seen the Jets win a championship. And Buffalo, we already know. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. I mean, it's a place where people are proud
Starting point is 00:27:03 to be rude and cringy. They're bad, right? So, so, so, so, so, so now, so, so you bring them young quarterbacks like a G.O. Smith and a Sam Darnow in that place, man. And everything, they go to, but if they ain't go to people talking about it, it's it just but then you go to small towns it's different I'm telling y'all New York I like it because I got some supreme confidence in me I don't mind saying something ain't gonna bother me right everybody ain't never seen people that proud to be rude. You know what's crazy, Mike, and before I get back to this, is that I went to school in Texas.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I actually went to college for a semester before I got kicked out. I went to a junior college called Navarro Junior College in Corsican, in Texas. And when I got- I know where that is, Navarro. In Brown, when I, yeah man, I know where that is. Yeah, I went to school to play basketball there.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And when I got there, I was in a culture shock because you know, when you're walking to class, people will be like, hey, what's up? And you'll be like, what the fuck you mean, what's up? Like, we're not used to speaking to people. Yeah, mind your business. Yeah, like yo, no, literally're not used to speaking to people. Mind your business. Yeah, like yo. No, literally I used to be like,
Starting point is 00:28:28 what do you mean what's up? And they'd be like, hello. I was like, oh, all right. And then another time. I know people in Texas. Yeah, yeah. And people in Texas, they really mean, they really care about your answer.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That'll make it better. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, you know, if New York somebody ask you what's up, they don't even wait around for that. They don't even say what's up. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they just nod at you. And they may not do that.
Starting point is 00:28:59 You may be looking nigger and looking back while you walk past them. We don't speak to people for no reason. I remember... Mean mugging no reason. I remember- Mean mugging. Yeah, I remember- Mean mugging and mugging. What's up, man? What's wrong, man?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, I remember saying, like, what up, fool? Fool? Who the fuck is you talking to? Fool? Like, I didn't realize it was slang. I was 18 years old and didn't realize it. I'm telling you a good one. Hey, that's the Florida boys bringing that stuff to New York.
Starting point is 00:29:24 No, this was in Texas. I don't know. No, this was in Texas. This was in Texas. In Texas? Yeah. That's Texas stuff, that fool, what's up fool? Yeah, they was like, what's up fool? And I was like, who the fuck is you calling a fool?
Starting point is 00:29:35 I didn't understand it at the time. I was like really, really confused. So we're about to square up for real. Come on, no, man, this is what we're trying to do. Yeah, I didn't understand it at the time. I was like really, really confused. I was about to square up for real, because I know man, that's just what we could do. Yeah, I didn't know. And they start off everything with, before they say they sentence, they say, say. Say man, say.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Everything is say before they, hey say. Say man. Say fool, say fool, say fool. Yeah, say fool, yeah, say. I came back with that, I came back with that accent. Niggas was mad at me because I came back to New York saying they like, Kim, could you stop your shit?
Starting point is 00:30:11 And I'm like, I was trying to stop it, but I was like, yeah, I was about to say, yeah, somebody really had to ask that. I was really trying to stop it. But back to the game real quick, I just thought I'd share that with you. I agree with Mace when it comes to Josh Allen, because to me, he's almost like Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:30:36 and not as good as Peyton Manning. We're not gonna do that. But he's one of the greatest, not greatest, but he's a great, on the way to being one of the greatest regular season quarterbacks ever. And when it counts, you keep losing to Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow when it counts.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And that's your standard of competition. So the Bills, they don't really worry me throughout the season. What I will say is that I do like Josh Allen's attitude, talking about he's throwing shots to Stephon Diggs without saying his name. Yeah, we ain't gotta worry about niggas and patting the stats and coming on the sideline,
Starting point is 00:31:14 yelling at me and all that. That's what he really wanted to say. Yeah, niggas losing their damn mind till my getting on the ball. I targeted the nigga 11 times this game. Fuck he want from me. That's what he really wanted to say. So they're doing well without Stephon Diggs.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But to me, the bill standard is what they're gonna do in the playoffs because we're still early, but you still have to deal with Lamar Jackson if the Ravens turn around. You have to deal with Patrick Mahomes and we don't know what's gonna happen with Joe Burrow, but you have to do it when it counts. I felt really bad that year,
Starting point is 00:31:50 they had that shootout with Kansas City, because Kansas City won the touring course, the coin toss, and Patrick Mahomes got the ball and Josh Allen never got a chance to score when there's an overtime. That was a shootout. I watched that game probably,
Starting point is 00:32:11 that last two runs in overtime, probably three, four times a year. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, don't get it wrong either now. That's when Tyreek was there too. He was picking up the Yak.
Starting point is 00:32:27 The Yak was crazy, because Tyreek Hill was Speedy Gonzalez. He was catching that thing and he was going, pause. But the standard for me is to build in the playoffs real quick, because I know we have to move on. Who do I pick in this game? This is one of my favorite games of the week, which is another game we're going gonna talk about in a minute.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But if I have to make a choice, I'm gonna go with the Ravens because they need it. They really need it. But they scared me that last quarter against Dallas, letting them score 19 points in the fourth quarter. And that may roll into the next game as well. I'm not sure if you guys seen it, Maystap Mike. I forget this nigga name.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's on live. The nigga that was yelling that with the crowd. Yeah, I saw it. Yeah. What's his name? I forgot his name. I know he's definitely. But the point being-
Starting point is 00:33:15 Marlon was not feeling it. Yeah, but before that, a fan was yelling at him in the crowd, stay off the podcast. You keep losing cause you're on the podcast. Then two days later, he gets on live. What? I'm free. Huh? Marlon Humphrey. Marlon Humphrey. Two days later, he gets on live on the jet. OK, he get your Marlon.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, right. And Lamar's like, get your game. You shouldn't even be on live right now. You should be getting your shit together. And I don't even think he comprehended. He was like, OK, man, so how you feeling? I like, you know, my nigga, did you just hear what this nigga You shouldn't be on live right now. You should be getting your shit together. And I don't even think he comprehended. He was like, okay, man, so how you feeling?
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm like, yo, my nigga, did you just hear what this nigga told you? You still gonna record? I don't like that. So at the end of the day, that scares me with Baltimore. Is everybody as focused as Lamar Jackson? That's the question. But Derrick Henry did have a great time.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Let me say one last thing too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me say one last thing too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me say one last thing before we go. I know we gonna cut out. No, no, go ahead. This is what I need people to understand because I had this discussion with Keith number two, with Keith.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You know, I'm okay with, I wanted the ball more than anybody. I'm okay with receivers wanting the ball. But if you don't get it, then blame the quarterback. You gotta understand the damage that does. Now, Josh Allen is taking over that team for the first time. And I'm gonna give you an example of how and why you lose to the Patrick Mahomes or the Joe Burrell
Starting point is 00:34:39 and those kind of things. Like, okay, you got somebody that's demanding the ball. Now, understand this now, and I love Stefan Diggs. I'm not just picking at him. kind of things like okay you got somebody's demanding the ball understand this now and I love Stefan Diggs I'm not just picking at him I'm just sharing with everybody Stefan Diggs called over a hundred passes every year in Buffalo every year every year he used to be a catcher he catch a hundred passes boy that's add that on earth I mean, he called 100 passes every year. Now, the problem I worry about is
Starting point is 00:35:09 we're in a game against Patrick Mahomes. It's third and four. Chops out and rolls right. He can run and get the first down, crucial game under two minutes, but he sees that several of days just it has a taste open by a twitch now he has to throw that ball because Stefan being will come back to the little one open open because the titch open really means we wide open on
Starting point is 00:35:39 receiver trying to throw that ball Patrick Mahomes is going to go get that first down. He may come back to that play on first down and give him another opportunity. You see what I'm saying? Right. In order to beat Patrick Mahomes, you have to play great late. What's the time you got to leave on the clock under 13 seconds? You understand because he's done it with 13 seconds left. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And you can't have a quarterback worrying about making those decisions trying to get you the ball in those crucial moments. Trying to make you happy when you're trying to go to the next round. Right, right. That's what keeps them back sometimes. That's the small thing that'll keep you
Starting point is 00:36:23 from winning a big ring. Okay, we're gonna go to break and when we return we will actually discuss the Chiefs. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic, boy is a countin' Got you feelin' like option, maybe I'm on my own problem, babe She's outta here and I don't know, what's happen happening to me won't fall Killing with this thing called trust But she ain't really thinking about it She wanna be free Why am I here? This one's gonna be free Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Today the Cowboys will play the Giants. Underdog has Dak Prescott at 261 and a half passing yards. Do you have him higher or lower at Mace? 200 and what? 61 and a half passing yards. Hmm, higher. Yeah, I'm gonna go higher as well. Okay, Daniel Jones is at 237 and a half passing
Starting point is 00:37:59 and rushing yards combined. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm gonna go higher for Daniel. Yeah, Daniel looking like he trying to turn it around. Higher. Okay. CD Lamb is at 6 1⁄2 receptions. Do you have him higher or lower base? Higher.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Higher as well. Okay. If you like these picks, remember you get two free picks this week. So if you're not already on underdog, make sure you guys sign up so you can make your picks too. We're joined back with our analyst Michael Irvin. So we were discussing the Chiefs previously. The Chiefs will play the Chargers. The Chargers have a lot of injuries. Is this looking like an easy win for the Chiefs?
Starting point is 00:38:35 And if it is, who do you guys believe can even stop them at this point, Mike? Well, the Chargers, I think, is going to be a good battle for them once. Justin Herbert get healthy again, you know, his ankle is not well right now. He tried to go on the field last week and then he had to come back off the field and I don't know if he's even playing or what his health is like. But when they get it going, there'll be a good battle because Coach is putting in the run game for Justin Herb.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But right now, no, Justin Herb is not healthy. They won't have a chance at beating him. And as I said to you, Stad, Stad girl, I don't think, Stad baby, I should say. That's his point. It's a little baby at this point. People go listen. I start calling this that baby, people say somebody gonna say something.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That girl just sounds real Southern to me, but either way. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, I'm just trying to get them off me. You know what I'm saying? Just trying to get them off me. You know what I'm saying? So, so yeah. But, but that, yeah, that thing. Y'all go ahead. I'm saying? I'm just trying to keep them off me. You know what I'm saying? So, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But, but that, yeah, that thing. Y'all, y'all go in. I'm, I'm done with it. I can, y'all got me out here scared even tall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think when it comes to the Chargers
Starting point is 00:39:58 versus the Chiefs, this is an easy game for us. You know, in Kansas City, we should win this game pretty easily. And I don't think it's just because that, um, Herbert is not 100%. I think when you don't have your top safety in Derwin James, that is going to be extremely difficult to stop what we're presenting at this point.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And, you know, I wish he'd get his head back in the game because he could really be a help to the Chargers. But for right now, that's going to be too big of a deficit to not have both of them at the same time playing such a team like Kansas City. Yeah, update on Justin Herbert's health. It was progressing. They did x-rays.
Starting point is 00:40:42 He looks like he's going to probably come back the week after next, even though he probably wants to play this week, I wouldn't play him either. But these are one of them games when it seems like it's gonna be an easy game, it never is an easy game. Because it's supposed to happen. I'm not saying I'm gonna go against the Chiefs, I'm not even gonna pick, but these are one of these games
Starting point is 00:41:00 where you're supposed to beat the Chargers, injuries, the QB1 is not there, and then it's a tight situation for us. Uh, we'll see what happens, and we'll see how the ball draws up. Okay, and then to Mase's point, so the NFL suspended Chargers safety, Dermot James, for one game without pay,
Starting point is 00:41:20 the league determined he could have avoided a helmet-to-helmet hit in the Pittsburgh game last week. Of course, this is the head of their matchup versus the chiefs. Do you guys feel like this suspension for Darwin James is fair? Mike. Well, trust me. I know I've been in those areas that I've gotten those letters. He's got those letters where he said repeated offenses.
Starting point is 00:41:47 You will have to sit you down. It dirt James. Like I don't call him a dirty player, but he's an edgy player. We you play in Florida state down in Florida. That's what you do. You learn how to play football when you're playing Florida State down in Florida. That's what you do. You know what I mean? He's an edgy player that plays right on the edge. You know, I like edgy.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I don't want you suspending edgy, but you know, when you do it so many times, maybe just one game, just sit down and play a game. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I was actually looking at what happened. Yeah, this nigga wild out. Yeah, this nigga wild out. You know, like a torpedo bonnet. I'm like, yeah, like, usually, I'm looking at it now
Starting point is 00:42:35 because I didn't see it, so I pulled it up. And I'm like, yo, this nigga, he targeted this nigga's helmet. Like, bro, and... It's just an edgy player, man. He likes it when he's dead. No, no, listen, listen, man. He's trying to instill fear.
Starting point is 00:42:48 My thing is this, I don't like the new football. I'm not against it. Got it, where is he? I'm not, when I'm saying this, that's for the new rules. I'm not against the old rules. You know what I'm saying? I'm not against, and don't get me wrong, I don't want to seem insensitive in today's era or whatever,
Starting point is 00:43:04 where it's like, oh, Cam, people are getting hurt and I don't want to wrong, I don't wanna seem insensitive in today's era or whatever, where it's like, oh, Cam, people are getting hurt, and I don't wanna ignore CT and concussions and so on and so forth. But I think football was made to be rough and rugged, nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? We're not supposed to be sitting there after you tackled somebody, yo, help him up.
Starting point is 00:43:21 No, I'm not helping you up, bro. Like, I can't, I knocked you down not to help you up. So don't get me fucked up. Like, I'm cool with all this shit, but if we're obliging by the new rules, this looks like it's crazy. To me, if we still playing like the 80s and 90s, like I just told you, Mike, John Riggins and my niggas,
Starting point is 00:43:40 this would have been totally fine with me. But a lot of times with these new... And this is, like I said, for the new rules, I think this was blatant. But a lot of times, to me, it's so messed up for a defensive lineman or a safety or a cornerback because momentum, you can't stop momentum when you're at full speed.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And sometimes when you're going to tackle somebody and if they move their head pause or their helmet one way or another, and you don't know that, and sometimes it's head to head pause, you're sitting there saying, I didn't try to do that. Now this look purposeful.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I'm just saying, usually sometimes you can't even help it because you're going at full momentum. Now don't get me wrong either, you're trying to sit there and tackle somebody who runs a four two, 40. You gotta put that into perspective too. I don't like the way the new rules are. If this is going by the new rules,
Starting point is 00:44:38 he needs to be suspended for a game, but I'm not from the new rules mind state. So I just wanted to make sure that was Claire Mike. I used to hate when they did it. I used to hate. He's one of them old guys. Yeah, I used to hate when they did it. There are things like that.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like you say, Cam, he's one of them old guys. He plays like one of them old guys, like our age, our day, Claire. And he believes, what Mace is talking about, he's trying to intimidate you. Yeah, he's trying to intimidate you. He's trying to instill fear. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 He's trying to instill fear. So they said, I don't have to cover them slant raps. Let me just pick one of them jokers one time. Right, I used to hate when they fined James Harrison with y'all team, every three minutes he was getting the fund. Every three minutes to the point where Mike Tomlinson said, Tomlin, pardon me, I always say Tomlinson. Mike Tomlin said, we oughta do something.
Starting point is 00:45:35 He has a family to feed. Because you're losing so much money, and he not getting that much money towards the end of his career, that it didn't make sense to play because you're getting fined every week for doing this job. To where they had to do a video and say, come on now, this man has a family to feed.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm not from this era, but I respect what's going on and I just gotta call it like I see it. Yeah, I'm for everything that Killer just said. I think all of this was a part of, you know, instilling that fear. So why receivers wouldn't run those L routes? The only thing I think they should have taken out was the, that they did was when the people would catch the ball and get hit while they catching the ball, when it's like a kick return or something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Other than that, I think football is meant to be aggressive. And if you don't want to be aggressive you should play basketball or something else. I like when the game was aggressive Okay on Sunday the Eagles will play the Bucks Do you guys view the Bucks as more of an average team or do you believe this won't be an easy matchup? Mike It's going to be a tough game. I mean, you know, the Bucks have had some success
Starting point is 00:46:49 against Philly over the years and the Bucks need this win. But you know, the Bucks are off to Denver. And you say, how did that happen? But when you go look at that film and you see what Patrick Sertinian did and how well he did covering Mike Evans, that shut down that whole passing game of the Bucks and they couldn't run the ball.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Now, they won't be able to run on Philly. You saw Philly shut down the Saints running game after they ran all over Dallas, but it's gonna be interesting. I still think Philly wins this game, but it's going to be to be interesting. I still think Philly wins this game, but it's going to be a close game. But I think Philly wins it. So you don't think if the Bugs get the running
Starting point is 00:47:34 that they could beat them? No, and you guys see, Philly won't have A.J. Brown, and we don't know if they're going to even have Devontae Smith, because remember, he took that big hit in the game And he got knocked out everybody thought that was a dirty hit which wasn't a dirty hit I thought I just said listen, that's without AJ Brown. They have the little guy running those routes They have the little guy running those inside routes and and you know, that's just taking big hits. But, but man, I, I, I've been feeling they, they, they grind it out. We so far at this point, they won't have the big guy.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think they grind out another win. Mike, I think you're taking a shot at Tampa really when it comes down to it. I think you've been very, um, what call it, when you've been territorial in Florida. I think you got something against Tampa, I'm not gonna lie. Yo, I love Tampa, I love Tampa. Boy, truth, trust me, you made me think about something. I really did. I really did.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I really did. I really did. I really did. Y'all know, hey, y'all, wait, y'all haven't gone to Tampa? Oh boy, hey. We love Tampa. That is from Tampa.
Starting point is 00:48:49 We ain't talking about Eboard City, we talking about the game. Hey, hey, Eboard City, Del Mar Ferry Street, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all know where them things at over there, boy. Well, look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:49:04 We go to 6AM. Sorry about that, Mike. Well, look, I'm gonna be honest with you. Sorry about that, Mike. Look, my opinion is this, that Philly could just as easily be 1-2. That game, they pulled that game out with one minute left. I mean, the game is 60 minutes, so we're not gonna sit here and complain and act like, oh, they should have lost.
Starting point is 00:49:21 They won the game. The Saints blew that game, not only on defensive coverage I think it was third and 16 with about a minute and 10 seconds left They run across the route they get a touchdown that and then Derek comes back their car has time to even get a field Go range and he throws an interception Philly could easily be tied with the Cowboys and the Giants as well I think Tampa Bay had a bad game last week. Like you said, Mike, they made some great efforts on defense, especially when it came to Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Would that happen two weeks in a row? I don't think Mike Evans is one of them guys that's gonna let that happen two weeks in a row. And also, Godwin's gonna step up to the plate. Um, I'm gonna pick Tampa Bay to win this game. Okay. And then the Seahawks are set to play the Lions. This should be another interesting game. So the Seahawks are 3-0, led by Geno Smith.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Given their past games, Mike, do you feel like the Seahawks are real contenders or pretenders? Hmm. I believe they're contenders, but only climbing so far up the ladder. You know what I mean? You a contender, but you don't have ability to climb to the top of the ladder. You got to grab these few bottom ropes. That's the kind of contender they are, but they won't be to the top. But this game here, Detroit, going in Detroit, you got to say in Detroit, this is going to be one of those good physical football games, because both of these are pretty good physical
Starting point is 00:50:53 teams. But Detroit win this game because I believe they got a better passing game, and more talent in their passing game. You know, DK and Lockett and all those boys are bad boys. But Detroit with St. Brown and LaPorta. And that team remind me of those early 90s teams, Cowboys that I played on, in those early years. Man, you sounded like OJ just now when you said that.
Starting point is 00:51:23 When it comes to the Seahawks and the Lions, I'm going with the Lions. I think the Seahawks are pretenders. I think this is the game that begins to show them as pretenders. I think it'll be a high scoring game since they're playing in Detroit. But I also think that the Lions defense is gonna force
Starting point is 00:51:47 Geno Smith to make turnovers that he don't want to make. And I think that'll be the key to victory when it comes to them. Detroit should win this game. But I'll tell you one thing. This is a really interesting conference. Pardon me, not conference, division. The NFC West.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Because right now, we wouldn't have been thinking right now that Seattle would be leading the NFC West. And we wouldn't be thinking that the San Francisco 49ers, even though they're injured, would be tied for last place. I'm looking forward to the next four to five weeks, and I'm gonna keep an eye on this conference and see how things go. Because I don't
Starting point is 00:52:25 think that Seattle is one of them teams but if they if the 49ers don't get healthy the Rams just lost Cooper Cup. Arizona we're not sure what they're going to do they look great one week they look stinking next week they're starting to build some continuity in Seattle. This will be real interesting in the next few weeks to watch this division. Okay. Right, it is. And then the Bengals, not off to the best start at all, they will play the Panthers. What happens if the Panthers win this game and beat the Bengals, Mike?
Starting point is 00:53:01 Man, that'll be, it'll be the beginning of Armageddon we've talked discussed this and I don't think the bingles are out of this I don't think the bingles are out of this because they still right now you just you just focus on your division if you're in the bingles and you got to say okay I'm going to see any team ahead of me like Pittsburgh Steelers I'm gonna see them twice so really I'm only one game behind I have all those other games that make up one game if I'm going to beat them so so so if they have any hope I'm trying to get into the playoffs this game they got to take care of easily is Carolina you is Andy dog
Starting point is 00:53:45 It's not right young Andy dog got a big win. You got to jump in here right now And it's not like they look bad and it's not like they lost To Washington commander. No, no, no, no young Jayden Danes took that game That was because they made they started mounting a comeback No, no not on my watch. They shut it down. So they'll get this win. They'll get this win.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And if I'm in their locker room, I'm saying, I know we started doing three, but all we gotta do is get this win. And when we see the Pittsburgh Steelers, cause they're three and oh, We got two games against them. You still in this thing. Let's keep playing. Yeah, I think the Panthers could definitely
Starting point is 00:54:35 have a great chance at winning this because when it comes to Andy Darn facing his older team, when a lot of people get energy to play against that team, even if they don't do well any other day, it seemed like they bring their best game to that game. So I'm looking forward to seeing that game. And I definitely think that the Panthers have a chance. Am I ready to say they'll win it?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Not necessarily, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I agree with you, Mike. Listen, they gotta win this game. When you sat there and talked about that perfectly, they were almost there at the doorsteps of beating the commanders. The week before that, what happens? The referee takes the game away
Starting point is 00:55:21 from them against Kansas City. They have a- Right. They're right- They're easy. Right. Right there. Right, right there. And you're on a fourth and 16, you get a 30, 40 yard pass interference call against you.
Starting point is 00:55:36 They actually could be a two and one instead of oh and three. This is the game that they need to take back, that they need to win part in me to make people believe. But I agree with you, Mike, I don't know if it's Armageddon, but it's gonna be hard for them to get into playoffs because one thing for sure, two things for certain, what people don't realize is this,
Starting point is 00:55:55 this is about after this weekend, 25% of the season is just about gone already as fast as it went. 25% of the season will be gone after this weekend. And people need to start bussing move to see what's gonna happen later on. And then last topic before we wrap, this is still a breaking story.
Starting point is 00:56:16 There's a lot still being uncovered, but UNLV starting quarterback Matt Sluka announces he will register and not play for the rest of the season. His decision comes from unfulfilled NIL promises after he transferred from Holy Cross. ESPN reported that he was verbally promised a minimum of a hundred thousand dollars from a UNLV assistant coach. Do you guys agree with his decision to register in the middle of the season? And obviously like his frustrations for not getting his money.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mike? What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not getting his money, so he's stopping in the middle of the season, and this is their first 3-0 season since 1984. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh. You ain't hear what happened, Mikey? This your first time hearing about it? Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:57:23 The team 3-0 right now. Yes. The team's 3-0. Yes. And oh. And their starting quarterback said, y'all ain't paid me what I thought y'all were going to pay me, so I'm out.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Basically, Mike, just real quick to recap. Team 3-0, they're ranked 22 in the nation right now. He got $3,000, he says, and he said he was promised $100,000. The school said that they never promised him $100,000. They said he said it was a verbal agreement. I ain't got shit to do with you and the school. I ain't got shit to do with that. We came out here, we've been busting out, but we've been working together. We made a promise and a commitment to each other. Hey, I'm telling you, dude, not only that team,
Starting point is 00:58:10 I personally would never play with them. Even if we got drafted, I'd say, hey, don't draft them here. I'm not playing with them. I'm not playing with them. You gonna do that in your team? I don't want as much as anybody. I grew up in a hell hole, the 15th or 17th,
Starting point is 00:58:28 I wanted out here as bad as anybody. But dude, we done committed to each other. You see what I'm saying? You got to work that out. Okay, but you're gonna do it with your butt on this football field. You see what I'm saying? No, dog, I'm not with that.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And that's a sad day. That's a sad day right there. That's a no dog. I'm not with that and that's a sad day. That's a sad day right there. That's a sad day and that's what I worry about with all of this that NIL in that portal combined together gives these guys that kind of leeway. No more fighting to win a position and stay and win what you need to do is oh I ain't got what I want, I'm outta here. I'm taking, you know, and yeah, I don't know enough and I don't know the kid, but personally, from what you guys have told me,
Starting point is 00:59:12 I'm sorry, buddy, you can't even, you can't step on the football field with me. You ain't throwing me no pass, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it. I don't know how this doesn't follow him. I understand when kids say, I'm, hey, my team is going to who the Buddha ball. And I'm about to be the first pick in the draft
Starting point is 00:59:34 or the first round pick. I'm not going to play in the who the Buddha ball. I understand that. I got no problem with that. But this right here with mid season, we've been working our butts off and working our butts off out here together and you coming up with this No, no, I would have a real issue and I feel sorry for those kids
Starting point is 00:59:53 I feel sorry for who's ever helping them make this decision for him moving forward Yeah, I hope he's not doing this on his own You know what I'm saying, but that transfer point in NIL deal, so now nobody sticks and wait, they just go. And if you don't give them what they want, they just say, I'm out of here. And now they're saying, I'm not playing. That's mind-boggling, people.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Well, when I think of- Why didn't you give him a red shirt here after he's been playing? They you give him a red shirt year after he's been playing? They shouldn't give him that red shirt year. Probably because it's only been two or three games. Three games, it was three or no. Yeah. Well, according to, well, I'm gonna let Mase have his take,
Starting point is 01:00:35 but according to you, Mike, and Stat, you could get nine years. But go ahead, Mase. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. When you play for Miami, you could get nine years. You play for Miami, you can get nine years. You play for Miami, you can get nine years. COVID years, red shirt, brown shirt years. Yeah, all type of color shirts.
Starting point is 01:00:52 All kind of green shirt years. He had a unique situation, to be fair. He was thinking off the field by injury, real injury. He was thinking off the field by will, injury. Mike, Mike. But what about this guy? I mean, shout out to Cadillac Williams. We were supposed to get together.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We still gonna do lunch or something. But when he was coaching down in Auburn and then he moved out here to UNLV, I knew he was doing an exceptional job. But when this kid came there, he came there with money expectations as well. I don't want to do him a disservice. What if he got a daughter or a sister,
Starting point is 01:01:32 or a little sister that need that money, Mike, and he's just trying to take care of his family, and he's saying these were the obligations that I came out here under, the pretense that I will be able to play football and take care of my family. That's the purpose of having the NIL deal. So I want to do the kid a good service
Starting point is 01:01:52 and sharing that as well. Maybe it's not just about the money, but I'm not gonna let you bring me all the way across the country and promise me something and then renege on that and expect me to do my part without you doing your part.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's another part. That's another fallacy and another issue that's with that situation. I mean, we're talking about kids and we're talking about deals and that means there's going to be fine print and kids have to understand. I don't care what anyone says. It ain't real. It ain't on paper. You I don't care what anyone says. It ain't real. It ain't on paper. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:28 That's not cam says it. Yeah, you don't know money to you get it. Right. It'll say everything and anything about it. If I don't get it, I got to get some signature saying that I'm going to get it from you. You see that so we don't have to be in this situation but there are two commitments there. I understand your commitment to your family
Starting point is 01:02:51 but there's a commitment to your family. We have a commitment and if I know that's a hypothetical if he needs it for his family and I want you to get but I'm telling you, you made a deal with us too. We're going to be here and put it in and put in that work. I just don't like how that sounds. I don't like that at all. I have to stop learning about it. This goes back to what we say on the show a lot. You got to keep the main thing the main thing.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And first things first, you're here because of football. The NIL deal is because of football. So if you're not playing football, there will be no NIL deal. And I know people may feel like, mate, you just said this. No, we're giving both sides of the spectrum so you can understand both sides. Killer. That's my favorite sermon, dude. That's my favorite sermon, dude. That's my favorite sermon right there.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Where Bishop Pree's right there with you, Jesse. That's my favorite sermon. Yeah. Keep the main thing, the main thing. Keep the main thing, the main thing. I was forgetting that sermon, listen to it. I ain't wise, so sermon, listen to it. I ain't YSL, man. Listen.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I'm more on both sides to be totally honest with you because there's a couple things for me. First and foremost, I get it, Mike, because you play sports at a high level and once you're committed to something, you're committed to something. I remember the Brooklyn Nets and I remember the Brooklyn Nets, and not just the Brooklyn Nets,
Starting point is 01:04:28 sportscasters across America bashing Kyrie Irving because he didn't want to take the vaccine. How you gonna do that to your team? You don't want to take the vaccine. I'm not saying this is the same thing, but that's how much people want you to be committed to your team, to shoot some shit in your body that you don't know what's gonna happen to you,
Starting point is 01:04:48 because you're supposed to be part of a team. And he didn't do it, and you know what? He was fucking right, because the shit didn't even work to where they gave New Yorkers back their money, because they were firing New Yorkers for not coming to work with... If you didn't have the vaccine, you couldn't come to work.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So people were getting fired. Then when they realized the vaccine was still getting people COVID, they had didn't have the vaccine, you couldn't come to work. So people were getting fired. Then when they realized the vaccine was still giving people COVID, they gave people their money back and then also gave people their jobs back, but they didn't give Kyrie Bergen the money that he missed out on. So that reason I'm even bringing that up
Starting point is 01:05:17 because I remember sportscasters across America would tell them, he's an idiot, he's dumb, he's stupid, because he's supposed to shoot some shit in his system to be a part of a team. Nah, nah. And so back to what you're saying, Mike, I agree with you to a certain extent and I agree with you more than I disagree with you
Starting point is 01:05:39 because like May said, that's my shit. A handshake deal is as good as the paper is written on. If it ain't on the motherfucking paper, it don't count, my nigga. So I totally agree with that. I like when you called it a fallacy just now. Like I said, like I said, who told you you was getting 100,000?
Starting point is 01:05:59 Where'd you hear that at? Because what happens is now that he put that out there when I was doing my due diligence on this earlier, is that it's illegal for schools to even still pay kids in the state of Nevada right now. It is a lake of the states that's going around and saying it's cool to pay players. Right now, so once he put it public,
Starting point is 01:06:21 you know, he was like, we never told you that. Even if they did tell you that, they're not gonna admit they're telling you that now because you made it public. Now on this kid's behalf, he may not have anybody in this corner that may be business savvy or smart enough. So he may be going off somebody's word. And if you're not giving him your word,
Starting point is 01:06:40 now he can't trust you moving forward because he's like, yo, listen, man, you told me this. Now you act in oblivious to what you told me. Nah, bro, I got to go. What I will say is two more things, is that I really blame this on an NCAA. Y'all had over a hundred years to figure this shit out. Y'all still haven't been able to figure it out
Starting point is 01:07:01 to where NIL came in. Now y'all certain states are cooperating for schools to pay players when y'all could have been playing players, but y'all only wanna pay players and the process is moving slow because NIL came in. That's first and foremost. Lastly, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I bet you one thing, it is no other quarterback in the top 25 that's not getting paid. I bet you that. I bet you schools one through 25, every quarterback is getting paid. I bet you that. I bet you schools one through 25, every quarterback is getting paid. Well, you guys all discussed like the main arguments for it. So we will discuss it more as the story unfolds.
Starting point is 01:07:36 But Mike, it was a pleasure to have you today. Why is it a lie? Oh, it's great to see you. Why is so? Yeah, I ain't no food stater. Yo, Mike, Mike, Mike, wait, you got, YSL live. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL.
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Starting point is 01:08:00 YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. YSL. What's the name of the new restaurant? But I got me a Smash Burger here off of the 10th aisle. OK. Smash Burger.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Mike, hit the dance. Hit the dance that the fool make you do. And give you something, man. Mike, real quick, what's the name of your restaurant so people know? It's called Playmakers 88. Playmakers 88, man. Y'all, anytime you're in Dallas,
Starting point is 01:08:28 anytime it's in the colony, it's 5005 State Highway 121. You ride by, you'll see big old Playmakers 88. Can't miss it. It's real big, just like me. You know, I made it out of here, you know. Yeah. It's hot.
Starting point is 01:08:44 All right, Mike, we appreciate you. We'll see you next week, bro. The food is incredible, dog. I'm telling you, the food is incredible. This is not bar food. I brought in a real chef. So you know what I mean. It's real good food.
Starting point is 01:08:56 You can't miss it. So make sure you come on by. And I'm always here. I'm a chef also. I got to cook one day for y'all for the restaurant. I'm a license. I'm a not licensed. I'm a cook one day for y'all for the restaurant. I'm a license. I'm not licensed. I'm a televised chef No, come here do that man. We go we go for the meal
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yeah, yeah, you know what some shit on the menu named after me and all that Right, we're gonna do that. We're gonna do that. Hey, hey, hey, it's gonna be a 888 special. That's what we gonna do. That's what we gonna do. That's what we gonna do. That's what we gonna do. That's what we gonna do. There you have it. Yo, Mike, hold on, hold on, Mike. Mike, hold on.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Masha gotta be 8888 special. Don't put me on the dollar menu. Masha's gonna be 8888. Under $10 menu. Under $10 menu. Masha is an 8888 special. Love you, you Mike we see you next week Well, that's all the time that we have for today, thanks for watching and as always it is what it is I'm out.

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