IT IS WHAT IT IS - MICHAEL IRVIN TELLS US ABOUT THE “WHITE HOUSE” & WHY HE’S WORRIED ABOUT THE COWBOYS!

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So here we go, hello y'all, oh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion, hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money, he said can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches welcome ass I bought jewelry and bikes nigga, black fences and white figures Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.
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Starting point is 00:01:06 Doesn't matter if you're new or existing. So we're getting more money today. I'm Tresher Wilson, AKA Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Mace, what's up, man? How you doing? It's good, man. How you feel today? Man, I feel great, man.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Good. That's what's up, man. I feel great. Looking good, too, man. You saw my team. Oh, my goodness. Looking good too, man. Pause. You saw my team? Oh my goodness, we'll get into it, pause. Which team? Title Town. You know I've been to Title Town recently.
Starting point is 00:01:33 You have? Yeah, I have. I said, now you, yeah. I've been up there recently. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about it later. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, I've been hanging out in Titletown lately. Yeah, we can't make this up, you know. I take one trip to Ohio now, you've been in Titletown. We the same person. I'm glad you know me. I'm glad you know me, but yeah, we'll get to it. Well, I'm glad you guys are feeling great today. We're joined with our analyst, Michael Irvin.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Are you feeling great today? No, he's not. Mike, Mike, please tell me that you went to church yesterday. Did you go to church yesterday? No, you know what? You know why we lost this game. No, no, no, no, no. I need to know, did you go to church? Did you pay your tithe, Mike?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Mike, did you die yesterday? Because the saints pay your tithe, Mike? Mike, did you tithe yesterday? Cause the saints came marching in, just like I told you. They came marching in and I knew, and I didn't go to church on Sunday, I didn't go to church on Sunday because I had to be at the restaurant so early cause the game was at noon, right? Go and get everybody ready.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Now, what they did, they made me walk out, and right at noon, we have a star in the restaurant. They blew all the smoke, and they said, you gotta go through the smoke. I said, wait a minute, I didn't do that in week one. I said, don't make me do it. And week two, you're gonna mess everything up. You see what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:21 I walked through the smoke. I swear, I said, God darn it, I know something funny gonna go down, I came through that smoke. That's all, man. Hey, yeah, let me say this though, let me say this. I almost called in with that thing they call the COVID. I got the COVID. I couldn't even call the I couldn't go. Oh, my god.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You know what? You didn't walk through the smoke, so they lost. Yeah. I walked through the airport a little differently. People looking at me, you're looking all down like this. It's just different when you lose, man. It just hurts, too. I'm not good at handling it. I'm not good at handling it you lose, man. It just hurts too. I just, I'm not good at handling it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm not good at handling it. Oh man. Well, we're gonna handle that first because as May said, the Saints came marching into Smoke the Cowboys 44 to 19. What went wrong, Mike? Everything. Everything.
Starting point is 00:04:24 First started out, we walked through that damn smoke. After that, everything went wrong. And the truth of it is the Saints came in ready to play and they were prepared to run the ball down Dallas' throat. I mean, they couldn't stop the run. I swear, oh my. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. All I can think about was them jokers go. They go they go show Kamara right back down.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I was first thing. Oh, that's crazy. But I let it go. But he said, see, I'm in the bar. I said that it goes on, man. They're going to hand feed me this joker all night long. I just knew it. Hey, and he always kills Dallas. He always, most of the time,
Starting point is 00:05:14 he has a pretty good game against Dallas, man. But that's who killed us. It was Alvin Kamara. He put it on us. And once everybody moved up, they killed us on the back end also. Wow, Mike getting crazy today. Pause as well.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Let me tell you something though. Let me say, let me say. I'm on the back end. There's a difference too, and you can see it, right? Like, okay, you see all these teams in there fairly up and down. Like Dallas, one week one up, some teams week one up, Some teams week, two down.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Now, every week, can't seem to get a hell of a challenge. Every week, they rise up to the challenge. This is, we clearly get to see the difference between champions and contenders. Like we asked, is this team a contender? Yeah, they're a contender. But you could be contending all your damn life.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You know what I'm saying? That team over there is a champion. And every time you come in there and try to play them at Kansas City or play them anywhere, they play you like you stole something from me, manny. And I just, hey I that I just a Just a difference. It's the difference between champions and contenders. We see it
Starting point is 00:06:31 Hmm. I like that take the dip pause the difference between champions and contenders cam. I see you wearing the Saints colors You you start me you starting to do is that does that's actually underdog colors So if you want coke am, that's who pays me. I wear the people who pay me colors. I'm just not jumping around wearing people's colors because they won this week. Use Code Cam, Code Mesa, Code Stat. And these are the underdog fantasy colors.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Until further notice, these are the colors that I will be wearing when I'm trying to promote something. These are underdog fantasy colors. Until further notice, these are the colors that I will be wearing when I'm trying to promote something. These are not the Saints colors. That's their thing. Yeah, they got their thing. I got the thing I break bread with niggas. When I break bread with niggas, I support their colors. So no, these aren't the same colors.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Maybe they are the same colors, but I'm not wearing them for the Saints. Hey, you support what supports you. There you go, there you go, there you go Mike. Look at Mike trying to go to New Orleans Saints on him. Oh, that's rule number one. I gotta support what supports me. I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah man, yeah look Mike, you said it all. Last week was the money week for the Cowboys. I'm just saying. Yeah, man. Yeah, look, Mike, you said it all. Last week was the money week for the Cowboys. Everybody was excited. They hugging on the field. Ezekiel was dead. Dak looked like he couldn't do no wrong. And you actually came on this show and said, do you rather have Ezekiel Elliott over Camarva?
Starting point is 00:08:01 You actually said that. He did say that. Yeah, I asked you, would you rather rather have? I said in this situation. I put some caveats over there. Now, y'all ain't pick all that up, but that ain't my fault. I did put that on the plate. I put it on the plate. I said because of the relationship with Dan,
Starting point is 00:08:19 I put a lot of other sprinklings on the plate. Y'all just left it and didn't eat it. You only ate the main course. So, you know, the reality is all of it was in there. The whole thing about it is that when you eat too much bread before you get a meal coming, you're full and don't want to eat the meal, pause. So therefore, I didn't want the appetizer.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I didn't want the size. I just wanted the steak, pause. You said Ezekiel Elliott was your your rival half man, and Kamara, and we thought you were bugging that. You're gonna come back though, dog, I take that one out. Yeah, I didn't want all the other stuff that was on the plate.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So, look, that pedestrian game, you got two on the yards, you got more on the substance, the touchdowns. Derrick Carr told you, this summer here, Derrick Carr always plays good, doesn't matter who he plays for, it's the back end of the year that he had more in the substance to touchdowns. Derrick Carr told you, this summer here, Derrick Carr always plays good. Doesn't matter who he plays for, it's the back end of the year that he's always sneaking up. But Mike, I don't really, I'm not going to dwell
Starting point is 00:09:12 on this too much because nobody's expecting anything different, except for you. And the people who live in Dallas, and the crazy ass cowboy fans who think every year it's our year, I'm not gonna paddle on, cause we gonna go through this several times during the year. This is gonna happen several times.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Because you know why? But that's what I'm saying. It don't necessarily have to be that several times during the year. So when I make an assessment and say this team can win, Dallas has the talent to win. The only reason it's like that seven times a year or several times a year or a few times a year,
Starting point is 00:09:48 because it's only been five. Now don't start acting like it's been forever. You know, they've been 12 and five the last three years in a row, not many teams have been that way. Things change in the playoffs, I know that. But the only time, the only reasons like that is because these Jokers can't hold up that bearing. That's why I started talking about the difference
Starting point is 00:10:08 between champions and contenders. And we gotta get them over that hump. And that's not a skill thing, that's just a commitment made one man to the other. I'm gonna get my job done and we're not losing this game. Let me ask you a better question because, you know, we always just take it too far and we're wrong losing this game. Let me ask you a better question because, you know, we always just take it too far, and we're wrong for even asking if y'all are Super Bowl contenders.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Let's make it a more realistic question before we move on. Are y'all gonna win the division? Hmm. Well, the division is going to be won by either Dallas or Philadelphia. I like both of those teams right now Now now when I see today when I see things like today, it's all the most You're winning division coming off of that coming off of that Come on, man. You like I can't even say that so they got to show up and show something better
Starting point is 00:11:01 Then what they get what we saw today? I mean, they got thoroughly dominated, thoroughly dominated. It put me back in the mold of the Green Bay game in the playoffs, to be honest with you. There was no way to stop them, and the receivers then, once they got the run game going at dominating offensive line, they were running wide open. And it was just, yeah, that was bad. that was bad that was bad so no no right now I'll say it'll be it'll come down to between Dallas and Philadelphia in the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So your answer is no. I'm saying I can't be for sure not with them jokes playing like that. with them Jokers playing like that? That's what the answer is. That's what the answer is, no. This was just a yes and no answer question, Mike. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. Okay. Playing like this,
Starting point is 00:11:52 and you think they gonna be above Saquon and them, it's not gonna happen. But wait, wait, I think they had a good shot at winning the division, because the division hit them in Philadelphia all right there. We saw Philadelphia have some issues too last year. They went one and six down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:12:10 You guys do remember that. Somebody, somebody got to win the division. And we know the Giants or Washington won't do it. So why is this not palatable for you to digest when I give you that? That's that simple. What I'm saying is, Mike, you're the one making it on whatever word you just said, unpathatable.
Starting point is 00:12:33 We asked you a yes or no question. Is they gonna win or they not gonna win? You made it unpathatable. You could have just said, yeah, we gonna win. That's all you could have said. You was uncertain, Mike. Yeah, because let me give you an example real quick. And I know you're going to the top of the top, the creme de la creme.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But when the Patriots, when Tom Brady played for the Patriots and Belichick was coaching, you didn't even, even though they lost the division a few times when the Jets had a couple good years, it wasn't really a question about if they were gonna win. You would just say yes. They didn't say, well, it's unpathatable. They say, are the Patriots gonna win the division? Yeah. Do you think the Jets gonna win the division?
Starting point is 00:13:13 No. Are the Bills gonna win the division? No. Are the Dolphins gonna win the division? No. Right now, all you have to do is say yes and no. Now, don't get me wrong, we love you here for your expertise and the words that you use,
Starting point is 00:13:24 because we learned a lot from you so far in the last two weeks. I love your vocabulary, but to me, if you ask me right now, I'm going to say Philadelphia. I'm not going to see soar. I know it ain't going to be the Giants or the Commanders. I'm going with Philadelphia. So I don't have to see and all that because I'm not emotionally involved like you are in this division. You're real emotional and you got a right to be. You I'm going with Philadelphia. So I don't have to see and all that because I'm not emotionally involved like you are in this division. You're real emotional and you got a right to be. You played in it, you're a legend in it,
Starting point is 00:13:50 but these are not the players on the field when you guys were playing. So now it's unpathatable. Now these juggles not dumb. These juggles not dumb. The energy is different. It's different. But in Kansas City, they got them dudes.
Starting point is 00:14:05 That's what I'm saying. And that's what I want to see Dallas pick up. Just some of that not on my watch stuff. You know what I mean? Anytime you go into Kansas City, you like, you got to bring a stick to try to beat these boys. Because, hey, Patrick Mahomes is saying not on my watch you think you got a shot not on my watch that's all I I just want I wish our guys like you
Starting point is 00:14:30 said our guys now had that like our guys of old used to have that and maybe they can so that's why I'm still holding in yeah I'm hurt right now I'm hurt but I ain't out. It's only a week. No problem, I got two. And Baltimore coming right around the corner and they over at two, they're like a wounded dog. They're over there. They're over there. They're over there.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They're over there. They're over there. Well look man, look, we got a lot. Listen, they added another game this year. It's a lot of football left, man. You got another 16 weeks, a lot of four more weeks, man. So we'll see what happens. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:07 So let's discuss the Bengals. They lost to the Chiefs 26 to 25. Despite the score, do you guys believe the Bengals should have had this game, Mike? Yeah, yeah. So let me tell you what, and people, we always say this, losing ain't never a good thing. It's never a good thing.
Starting point is 00:15:26 But you can still pull something good out of losing. That game for Cincinnati was a needed game after losing the opener to New England. Because now they wanted to go in and grab all their confidence back by beating the Kansas City Chief, but when you play them that hard, we can't talk about you losing the Kansas, you losing to the Patriots. We ought to talk about how hard you played the champions. So you picked yourself up off the ground
Starting point is 00:15:57 and put yourself back by the champions again by almost beating them. So you can take some confidence even from that kind of a loss Because you played them should be played them that hard. So yeah, I Thought that that was very good for Cincinnati something that they needed and they got it without getting the victory Which I thought was important. So you think they they regather their confidence by losing Is that what I'm here no no no
Starting point is 00:16:25 doubt no doubt no doubt because you're in the locker room right there right now they're going for three people we we had the champions so so so now we're not going to live on man we let the first game without Belichick beat us we got to focus on our what's ahead of us We got to get these things cleaned up because we can beat the champion. We can beat everybody. That's how they're thinking. Absolutely. Them coaches, yeah, that Caulfield building sweeter today.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Um, uh, I don't beg to differ, but I definitely do differ. I think it's now time we could put that Joe Burrow conversation asleep That he does not be Pat Mahone's and he never does when it really counts So here at title town, my name is mace and I stand behind this message until differently We're just them dogs, you know, you got you got Super Bowl a few years ago Who they be to go to Super Bowl yeah, yeah, yeah, but you got pit bulls you got rock wallahs and then you got Cane corso's, you know
Starting point is 00:17:41 We're bigger now pause, you know, we're not them little dogs anymore That's another thing too, yeah, they were calling arrowhead burrow here so you where you know, they yeah Yeah, we grew up, you know, and I think chase found that out, you know yesterday as well that we're not we're not certain things We're not gonna tolerate. That's what you want wanna see in Dallas where a person says, you know what? We're not gonna tolerate this. I don't care how good you're playing, you're not gonna win today. And it's sad because you're in the Pat Mahone's era. You know, like when you're in the Michael Irvin era.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Did you see the game? Yeah. Yeah. Saw the score cam. I saw it, that's why I didn't, Mike, I knew you didn't see the game. So that's why me and you want to save face. You didn't even see what happened.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I knew you didn't see the game. No, I saw them playing. They were playing really tough. And when they got up one. Mike, Mike, Mike, don't say nothing. Let them tell us about it. They got up one and then, you know, it just turned into what it was supposed to.
Starting point is 00:18:39 You know, when you're playing champions, champions just find a way to win. That's what makes them champions. It don't matter how close you keep the game. Did you see the game? That's just a yes. You act in, what's the word Mike? Did you snap plethora?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, that's what Mase is acting plethora right now. You saw the game, but you didn't see it. I saw a portion of it. I saw a portion of it. So then, okay, Mike, we can talk because Mase didn't see the game and he's right, they won. But if you've seen the game, this had nothing to do with Joe Burrows. And secondly, Joe Burrows is still up three to two. This was a fabulous game for Joe Burrows.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But what I will say is this, football is definitely the ultimate team sport. I couldn't have played football. I couldn't, I really couldn't have, I couldn't have played it cause I've been mad at too many niggas. I've been mad at mad niggas. Where if I played football, I really couldn't, I couldn't have played it because I've been mad at too many niggas. I've been mad at mad niggas. Where if I play football, like basketball,
Starting point is 00:19:29 you can be mad at nigga too, be upset, but it's just too many people to blame for this collapse. So let's just go to the end of the game. The end of the game, you're up two points and you got the ball with under four minutes left. I'm mad at the offensive coordinator for not being more aggressive. You get the ball down the field and you score a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:19:51 it'll probably be two minutes on the clock and you're up nine points. Now I'm not saying, I know it sounds easy to say to Dunn, but them plays you running with soft as shit, you got to be more aggressive. That's first and foremost. Secondly, and that's under four minutes, you got the ball with, and fucking it was,
Starting point is 00:20:09 man, you had the ball with up to, with less than four minutes. Secondly, Jamar Chase, if you're gonna be this angry and cause your team penalties that could possibly get them to game, you gotta sit out till you get yourself together. Now I know you upset your your contract ain't come through and everybody else is dealing you mad,
Starting point is 00:20:28 but you're getting penalties at the end of the game that can also get them a first down to get them a touchdown to end this game. So you're mad, so I'm mad at Jamal Chase so far. Now I'm mad at the offensive coordinator for not being more aggressive when they could have put this game away. That's first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So you give, what you don't do is you don't get Patrick Mahomes to ball left with two minutes. We all know that. You don't do that. You don't give him the ball back. So now you give him the ball back with less than two minutes to go
Starting point is 00:21:02 and the defense plays outstanding. You play outstanding defense. You get Patrick Mahomes to fourth and 16 with 30 seconds left or about 38, less than 40 seconds left. Fourth and 16. They're about to hike the ball. What do you do if you're Cincinnati? You call it touch.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I mean, what don't you do? They call a timeout. Now I'm mad at the timeout at the coach. So now I'm mad at three people. You're mad when you call a timeout to make sure you get the right defensive play to make sure you end this game. Cool, they get back on the field.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Pax from the home throws a bomb. What do you get? A pass interference call. On a fourth and 16, when you up two one, like 35, 40 yards that puts them back. And they could have let that call go. That was a close call. That was some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:21:58 The call was whack. They shouldn't have called it. They shouldn't have called it. Matter of fact, matter of fact, matter of fact, Mike, hold on. I'm going to Dr. Locks. Let me see Dr, Mike, hold on. I'm going to dock the locks. Let me see dock the locks real quick. This is my man on the ground.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Not be pulled off by any other team in any other stadium in the National Football League. Fourth and 16, 48 seconds on the clock. Death, taxes, and the Kansas City Chiefs somehow, some way being bailed out with the game on the line. You can't make it up. We've seen it all. And listen to Tony Romo immediately start doing tricks on Kansas City. It's the right call. He got there early.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Just the emotions of that playing gym, that's what gets you. You just, it's so emotional. Your heart beats up. What? What? What did he even just say? Look at that. He's got the ball. He's got the ball. He's got the ball, that's what gets you. You just, it's so emotional, your heart beats up. What?
Starting point is 00:22:46 What? What did he even just say? Look at this. That is bang bang. Oh my gosh. No, they can't keep getting away with it. They can't keep getting away with it. What do you want the defender to do?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Why wear a ref jersey when you can just put on a chief's jersey? This almost looks scripted. Look at the ball land and the flag immediately fly. It's comedy. Looks like it's out of a King-Peel sketch. And here comes Harrison Bucker. It's automatic. He walks it off. We've seen this script before, almost too many times. Absolute insanity in Arrowhead once again. Oh, and here's Taylor. I'm happy she's happy.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Good night. I'm happy she's happy. Good night. Shout out to Dr. Locke, man. I'll press my case. Like I said, this was all scripted. You cannot blame Joe Burrow for nothing. That kid, they did not have to call that penalty.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But I will say, shout out to Dr. Lach. That was a dope take, especially with Taylor Swift and then of course they had to let the Kansas City Chiefs win in Harrowhead in such dramatic form. Shout out to Kansas City Chiefs, but that shit was some bullshit and you can't blame Joe Burrow for nothing. But Joe Burrow's still up three to two.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And like you said, Mike, he did go to Super Bowl last time he was fully healthy. He didn't play last year, but I'm not gonna argue with Mace because I do agree, champions are champions. But Joe Burrow's still up and we still got time, baby. It's gonna be something, it's gonna be something. That was a close call. That was a horrible call, the ball hit him.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Ball hit him in his helmet, pause, unless there was another pause angle that something happened we didn't see. They just like me to say. You call it there, right there at the end of the game, you supposed to, man, we gotta let them oh man, we gotta let them play that. We gotta let them play that now. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:49 See, I think it was a tad, just a touch early, but right there, man, you let that play. But Mike, look, look, look, look, I'm in the entertainment business. You get that call, we know it. First of all, we gotta give the Kansas City kicker, that nigga's thorough, that's one person Patrick, my homes and that nigga Kelsey too. But that nigga's thorough when he got a big leg pause, pause, pause, pause, pause,
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Starting point is 00:25:38 because after he makes the field go, who do you go to? Taylor Swift. Hugging, it's not week two. Hugging and dramatic. It's, yo, the NFL, y'all niggas is in the entertainment business, I'm in the entertainment business. Good job. Fucking good job, man.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Touche, I will say. That was a great case study evidence in all. Definitely makes you look at things a little differently. But another team that has lost two straight games is the Ravens. They lost to the Raiders 26 to 23. Is this how you guys were expecting their season to start out, Mike? No way. No way. I had Ravens winning both of those games. You know, now I will say this though.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I will say this. I was happy for my boy AP cause I was like, man, he's going, he's going to start and got the job officially as the Raiders head coach. You know, I think there was that plus eight, they were minus eight in this game. And I think I took them as a sure thing because the Ravens were coming off that Kansas City game that toe tapper that they didn't get them toes in. I was like they're going they have to win this game so I was shocked but pleasantly shocked because they are AP but also one of my dudes who I love dude Max Crosby that's a different dude out there
Starting point is 00:27:04 when I went to go visit AP Dog, when I went out there, man, a dude came up to me and he was like, man, I'm gonna play with you guys. I'm a dog like you guys. He's one of them dogs that, you know what I mean, that goes hard. And then he stood up for his coach, for AP to get the job. You know, he, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And he played today now. He hit Lamar and Jackson right in the mouth when the game was on the line, and man, they came away with that victory, so kudos to them, but I'm shocked that the Raiders are 0-2, and coming in here too. That's why I'm shocked and damn mad, like damn, not here to come in here.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Why, we should go play somebody else and win a game, come in here feeling a little happy right now. But yeah, that's going to be a scary game next week for the Cowboys. You just said, ain't nobody better than a dog beat up. Now you scared. Which one is it, Mike? Right, right, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, I'm scared. All right, all right. I'm not gonna play. I'm scared, Cam Lange, because what is Baltimore going to do? We just, Dallas just got ran on, like, you know, yeah. Like, yeah, they got ran on, and in a horrible fashion. And here comes Baltimore, and here comes big boy,
Starting point is 00:28:18 Derek Henry, who wanted to play for Dallas, and said, Dallas never even called him. He's gonna find something in that and then he'll try to go, you see what I'm saying? So yeah, and I don't know if these guys understand, dudes, guys are coming in here trying to punk y'all. You know that? They're tired of hearing about the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:28:38 They don't wanna just beat y'all, they wanna punk y'all and make y'all look like chumps. And y'all just hanging, hey, y'all wanna exchange jerseall look like chumps and y'all just high in Y'all want to change your So, yeah the Raiders gonna be ready to play I'm worried about that game Yeah, I definitely believe the Raiders will come in and get that game from Dallas, because right now Dallas is just lackluster. And and I think when it comes to the Ravens, they they can't afford to be out.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh, three. They cannot afford. We I thought that the Ravens was going to come back with vengeance being that they fell short, you know, of, of winning last year. I think they was supposed to come back with like, we went in every single game, at least get to like six and oh five and oh something of that course. But it looked like Lamar was playing pretty good to me. And other than, other than the, it's, it seemed to me like the kickers made the difference in week two and week two, it seemed like all like the kickers made the difference in week two. And week two it seemed like all of the kickers
Starting point is 00:29:47 made the difference and all of these wins you could see somehow where the kickers made the difference. That's my assessment. Man, you talked all this defense shit, Mike, last week about the Cowboys defense. They something, man. They all right, man. They all right.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Look, I don't even know the greatest quarterback name like that, nigga. I ain't gonna Google or search it, right, man. They all right. Look, I don't even know the greatest quarterback name like that, man. I ain't gonna Google or search it neither, man. I know he had 276 yards on y'all. Out of interception, the touchdown, all this D. Real defense is something, I'm telling you that right now. Y'all lost to them. I'm telling you, Adam had nine for 110 yards.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He's boy, ain't a touch. So you know that getting him in rhythm, getting him in rhythm, yeah. Mike, you look like one of my sad older brothers or uncles right now. Your old posture today, I don't like it, man. I don't like that for you, Mike. I don't like it, man, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:40 But one thing for sure too, dude. One and two, one and two. Yeah, man, but listen, back to this. Man, he's right though. Look at the Ravens. Raven two, one and two. Yeah, man. But listen, back to this. Mays right though. Look at the Ravens. Ravens cannot, Ravens right now, dude, right now, don't nothing tastes right. Cause you can't go 0-3.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It's like you went, you were in the AFC championship game last year. This was supposed to be the year Lamar Jackson's second year in the offense, supposed to take a leap. And you were supposed, I mean, and you're now coming into Dallas, oh, in three? Yeah, I don't think they can- I don't know if these players understand what they're about to play when the Raiders get here.
Starting point is 00:31:15 That's what I'm saying. See, the Chiefs are understanding, but I don't know if Dallas players understand. Yeah, they're gonna run crazy since we know you can't stop the run. And I mean, how weak is the defense on Dallas? If niggas is, is quarterbacks is sneaking and get a touchdown on a run. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:34 What I'll say is this, um, yeah, they can't afford to be down. Oh three, but back to this game and back to the Ravens overall, I wanted to see who would benefit more. And we still have to wait till later on tonight's game out of Philadelphia, getting Saquon in Baltimore, getting Derek Henry. And those were my two big. Look, the two two biggest acquisitions from two both teams that I said,
Starting point is 00:32:04 these are both good running backs and who's going to benefit more from that? And it seems like right now, you know, and like I said, we're super duper early that Baltimore is not benefiting from having Derrick Henry on the team. I don't know if they're not using them right. I don't know exactly what the situation is, to be honest with you. I didn't see this game because I was watching other games because I thought Baltimore would definitely win this game. And I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And we'll see what happens tomorrow. Well, pardon me later on this evening with the Philadelphia game. But definitely not a good start. But one thing for sure, two things for certain. Some teams start 0-2 and you're worried about them. Baltimore is not one of those teams that I think you need to be too worried
Starting point is 00:32:46 about. I think they'll figure it out, uh, in the next few games, but I wouldn't be too concerned about, uh, the Baltimore Ravens. And I would be worried if I'm the Dallas Cowboys and Michael Irvin. Let me ask you this though, killer. Would you be worried if they get down old three? Not necessarily because it's 18 games now. Yeah. You know, maybe when it was 16 games.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah. Because look, but we should also, we should also just, just, just to re-informing the audience. That's our job. Also, when you say, man, starting 0-2, getting to the Super Bowl, not many teams have done it. Not many teams have done it. Not many teams have done it. I think percentage drops down to like one or 2%.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Not many teams have done it. Not many men have been able to track that track and climb that mountain. No, absolutely. But I did. He said, but I did. Oh, he said something. He said something.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He said something. He said something. He said something. He said something. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. because you wanted them niggas, no disrespect intended. And listen, and to add on to what you were saying, you're right, not many people are the Dallas Cowboys of the 90s or Michael Irvin. But what I reason that I'm answering your question is I would be a little more concerned if the extra two games wasn't added on.
Starting point is 00:34:20 This is the longest season ever in NFL history. So a game or two that you may lose early, you may be able to make it up later. And that's just my opinion. I could be totally wrong, but that's why I'm not too, too concerned. I think it's a lot of football. Right, in the balance of it all.
Starting point is 00:34:40 In the balance of it all. We get the nine and eights right there on the verge. You still sneak in a playoffs and may take a run and go on a run. So yeah, it's really, it's really competitive. Yeah, you can still get an opportunity. And then real quick, speaking of the Raiders quarterback, this was a great confidence booster
Starting point is 00:35:01 for the Raiders to beat the Ravens. Cause I mean, Gardner Minshew was mainly a backup quarterback till he had to take the starting position when his QB got injured and then got moved to the Raiders. But next they play the Panthers. I'm obviously expecting them to win that game. So I wouldn't be the surprise if the Raiders start sneaking up, because when we're looking at the game and the schedule, they might surprise us. So I'm not going to knock them completely out, but I do wanna make that clear.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That's what I think though. Okay. Meshu Mania, remember that Meshu Mania? You know, I remember Gardner Meshu had that Meshu Mania going on. So that means, and he's one of them guys, he could hit, you know, a streak and be playing well and doing things, then wearing them all crazy jeans,
Starting point is 00:35:44 shorts that he wears and look like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He can do that. He can play now. He can play, but he can look streaky. Yeah, definitely. Okay, and then one more before we go to break. So the Vikings had a 23 to 17 win over the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:36:00 This has a lot of people questioning Brock Purdy's game. Do you guys still feel like Brock Purdy is the real deal? How are you feeling about him right now after seeing that game? Mike first. I don't know if I said something because I wonder. I swear I remember I was saying I wanted to talk about this game and say something you guys about it and say, man, I this this game Minnesota. I knew Minnesota was going to be a tough fight for, and I said
Starting point is 00:36:27 I liked Minnesota, but I don't know if I was a little too scared to even give it a shot, to really think they could beat the San Francisco 49ers. But yeah, and that was more about, yeah, it just jumps and got the big play. But if you saw that game, that game was more about Minnesota's defense Minnesota's defense was what they were everywhere and Minnesota's offensive line if you can block San Francisco's defensive line you got a shot and they made plays on San Francisco's offense I don't know and I want to go back and look at it again. I don't know if it's Minnesota's great defense or if San Francisco
Starting point is 00:37:11 offense that missing CMC that much you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the week one when your boy had the great run running where everybody said Oh, they don't miss CMC, but but when I look at it I'll go back and look at it I'll go back and look at it in depth and see if that's what I think it is. Yeah Jordan, Jordan Mason did this thing again you know um but I don't I don't think they could win without without McCaffrey I don't I really don't think they can like it's starting to it's starting to really be like a glaring defect in this team.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Even though you got somebody playing well, somebody playing well numbers wise, doesn't mean they're bringing in enough cash to get them to win. And that's what it's starting to look like for me. Right. All the other things that CMC does, you know, on that team, you know, on that team. You know, he's a different guy. He's running, him and Debo Samuel, those guys gonna change.
Starting point is 00:38:10 He can go down the field like a wide receiver. Most running backs, and just educational, most running backs, their issue is they can't go down the field, you know why? Cause they don't know how to track the football that long in the air. They're used to all their lives, handing them a football or short passes. So now you tell them run all that, you can outrun that linebacker, run all the
Starting point is 00:38:34 way down the field, it should be easy play and you think he just run down there and catch it. When that ball's in the air he's scared as hell because he's never seen the ball in the air that long and he has to track it. Very few can do it. The Marshall Falks were able to do it. Guys like Christian McCaffrey can do it. And what was the exact question stat? What did they say about Brock Purdy?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, basically they're questioning Brock Purdy's game. So I was asking y'all if you feel like he's the real deal or no. Yeah, 300 yards. Like I don't be knowing when niggas be won. They just lost. Like niggas every week, they gonna question Brock Purdy,
Starting point is 00:39:06 like he was a Super Bowl fucking candidate last, I mean, fucking MVP candidate last year. He went to the Super Bowl, he's missed the irrelevant. He's already exceeded expectations. I think he had a decent game. I think Debo played good. What I think is that people are underestimating the Vikings. Sam, Sam Donald, he may have found the home and we already know
Starting point is 00:39:26 what Justin Jefferson brings to the table. Larry was talking about it last week that he's like, people are underestimating him. We wasn't on TV, but we are talking about it. That these are one of these sleeper teams. And Mike, I think you actually brought it up as well last week, said that they could possibly be a sleeper team. I don't think this was more about the San Francisco 49ers. I think it's more about the Minnesota Vikings taking things into their own hands and winning. Now do they need Christian McCavary? Yeah, that's like saying, and I'm not sitting there
Starting point is 00:39:57 comparing him to John Moran or anybody, but sometimes he'd be like, oh, you don't need this person, this person when you come off a good win yeah Memphis needs Ja Morant and San Francisco 49ers need Christian McCaffrey but we're not going to downplay and act like Minnesota's and somebody to pay attention to as well yeah all good points okay we're going to go to break when we return we will discuss the Browns versus the Jags. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So today the Eagles will play the Falcons. Underdog fantasy has Saquon Barkley
Starting point is 00:41:05 at 74 and a half rushing yards. Do you have him higher or lower Mace? Higher. Go higher as well. Okay. Jalen Hurts is at 233 and a half passing yards. Do you have him higher or lower Cam? I'm gonna go lower.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, lower. Okay. And Kirk Cousins is at 224 and a half passing yards. You have them higher or lower mace. Kirk and Kirk got all them franchises. Let's go higher. Let's go higher. I mean, I go low. I like Kirk Cousins a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But, you know,, when I watched him last week, he didn't look mobile. He looked old like, yo, it looked like a nigga who got old right in front of my eyes, man. I like, I really, really, really like her cousins a lot, man. But maybe he'll show me something this week. And I tell you one thing Kurt listen to me I'm gonna go lower pause but that don't mean I'm not a fan but what I will tell you is this nigga if you don't get it together by week six and seven that kid Penix is in the cut waiting on your job nigga yeah he's in the cut about week six week seven you don't get it together they will be He's in the cut about week six, week seven. You don't get it together, they will be.
Starting point is 00:42:26 They gonna sideline, just niggas panics on the sideline. Waitin' my nigga, your job's in jeopardy. I'm rooting for you nigga, but I'm definitely gonna go low on you tomorrow. Pause. Yeah. Listen. I'm with you, girl.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm gonna go with you, pause on the lower. Cause Kurt, you know, we trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I ain't got time to be doing that with my record. Air points. Okay, remember, Underdog is hooking you up with profit boost tokens for today only. So check out the lobby now and get more money when you win.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So make sure you download the Underdog Fantasy app so you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst Michael Irvin. So the Browns redeemed themselves to beat the Jaguars 18 to 13. What are you guys' overall thoughts on the game and do you guys feel like the Browns can stay consistent, Mike? Well, my overall thoughts are you said the Browns redeemed themselves? I was really just thinking about the Sean Watson redeeming himself and all the stuff that he was dealing with and going on around You know I was you know I was happy that he played pretty well down the stretch and got the win even though Jax had the ball late in the game trying to make a drive, but
Starting point is 00:43:43 But yeah, you guys know now this whole week was about in the game trying to make a drive but but yeah you guys know now this whole week was about after the game he played and then and then the accusations came out it was like oh my god everybody's asking about was that a horrible deal to Cleveland gate you know so I was happy to see the brothers show up and make some plays in the Browns to get to get that win. And I even seen an article where it said, that Sean Watson leads. So they're giving them, that's a positive article.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I bet he feels good to see that article. Trust me. I know I'd had all the more bad articles before, you know what I'm saying? I know what they like. Yeah. Let me ask you a question, Mike, being that you talked about the break-in real quick before I give my opinion on this game. Was it a thing called the White House
Starting point is 00:44:33 when you was playing the Dallas Cowboys that y'all had, something called the White House? Yeah. Yeah, we had that too. Yeah, we had that too. Yeah, yeah, we had that too. Jermaine Dupree was up here talking about the White House and he was schooling me on it, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And we wasn't that cool yet. You know, we met in Colorado, but Jermaine Dupree was up here talking about, nah, they at the White House in Dallas, Cam. And I'm like, what's the White House? He said, trust me, Cam, it was some shit called the White House in Dallas. And Jermaine Dupree,
Starting point is 00:44:59 I thought that Jermaine Dupree so, so deaf, he's a little older than me. So he was schooling me to some of the things that may went on behind the scenes in Dallas that I wasn't aware of, but I'll leave it at that. I just wanted to know if it was a thing called the one. Let me tell you about it. OK, good. There you go.
Starting point is 00:45:13 That's what I want. I won't put no pressure on you. OK. So, so, you know, we I go to the guys and we kind of. But, you know, we were, yeah, we were spending a lot of money on hotels, right? You know, just messing around, you know, messing around. Man, why don't we put a pool together? You just get this extra house. Me and you be on the same time, like the time, boy.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Me and you. So, right. And it was big four bedroom house. We just, we said all that, we can go anytime, man. We can go anytime now. Yeah, so we would all go over there. We were parked at the facility where we played, where we practiced, and it's right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:45:57 The rule was, do not be parked in all these expensive cars in the neighborhood, because we got a nice quiet neighborhood But you know sooner or later, but if you stop breaking the rules, you know, they're drinking and they don't feel they just come on And all the cars parked over there Leon let call me And say it one time Michael I Heard They know about the White House.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You should shut it down. I said, hey, big fella, you been watching too many movies. This ain't no New Jack City. I'm not shutting down the Carter. Are you crazy? I shut down the Carter. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'm not shutting down. Three weeks later, I was in meetings. It's Wednesday. We putting in installs. That, we're putting in installs. That means we're putting in the plays. And Jerry, they were like, hey man, Jerry Jones. I said, no, tell Jerry I'll be up there, or I'll be up there after the meeting,
Starting point is 00:46:53 because I got to make sure they're putting in my play. He said, no, Mikey, you got to come now. I went up to Jerry and said, Michael, what's going on? His story's breaking about some White House. I said, oh snap all I heard when he said that I said Can't open the cheddar down. Damn. You know to me. I feel it. Shit her down Jerry said to me Just tell me the truth, you know, I'm a fight for you no matter what what the situation is It's just what let me know what's going on Just tell me the truth. You know, I'm gonna fight for you no matter what, what the situation is.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Just let me know what's going on. I said to him, I said, boss, honestly, I was, we were, yeah, we were trying to do the wrong thing the right way. We were spending a lot of money, a lot of money on the hotel. I just think we all get together, get some team camaraderie in,
Starting point is 00:47:44 and we got the team camaraderie together. You got a camaraderie? We get some team camaraderie. There's a near running plays, man. You're the one of them. Always in the wilds running plays for real, man. Routes and everything else. Hey, hey, hey, you see what y'all did?
Starting point is 00:48:05 That's what Jerry did. Jerry bust out loud for this thing. Like, my god, what can I do to you with your hands and stuff like that? Yeah. So, you know, yeah, man, that was crazy, man. Now we know the White House wasn't a myth, man, and we got it from Jermaine Dupri.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Thank you for that information, man. Yeah. That thing was real, boy. That thing was real. Yo, start telling me that we getting the PG version of the White House as well. Yeah, boy, I trust him with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the movie right there. The White House. Yeah, we getting the PG version of the White House. Yeah, we getting the PG version of The White House.
Starting point is 00:48:45 We all get the rated R version of The White House. Well, yeah, real quick. I know we'll veered off real quick and I know we gotta go to the next topic, but when I seen this game, I seen two niggas that's getting over half a billion dollars to name shit. Not saying they ain't shit shit,
Starting point is 00:49:02 but they ain't worth for half a billion. Got two quarterbacks. My nigga, nah, nah. And I feel bad for these owners. And Cleveland Brown owner, we already talked about, you fucked the whole market up. And now you got Trevor Lawrence getting 275, I believe. And you got Deshaun Watson getting 230.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That's 500 million, half a billion. Which they might, 500 million male males. Two million. Two people. That's the half of a billion. Half of a billion bill. And I just don't. That's real. I don't like it when I see this.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Especially the score. I mean, DeTron Washington had a great game. But what are we comparing it to? Last week, of course he played better last week. He played better than um Callum Murray no So that's all I can say. It's been a Callum Murray now Cam. Yeah. Callum Murray
Starting point is 00:49:58 He was the one who said whose job is it? Oh no we didn't do that next. You must have went back. Yeah, he went back and read his job description. That's what he went back and read. Cause hey, hey, Marvin Harrison had about four for 130 in the first quarter. Well, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, we about to get to it.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Come on, give us a second. You can go ahead. Yeah, so let's discuss Kyler Murray. So the Cardinals beat the Rams 41 to 10. How are you guys feeling about the Cardinals right now, Mike? Yeah, and what we talked about, that's why I'm so happy for him. I'm happy and hopefully he heard us and he learned.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Well, she'd have heard everybody when he said it's not my job. Now you take that first quarter and you say wait, okay I agree with read your job description Your job put the ball in the hands of your best playmakers That's your job You see and then he did that and man that do him and him and Marvin Harrison They look like something especially in that first quarter with those bombs everywhere man you found him a couple times on some great routes so yeah yeah yeah I thought that was an incredible game in a glimpse of what it
Starting point is 00:51:14 could be now he's already a difficult cover now you got that kind of difficult cover because he has size and his great fluidity and then you got that kind of different attack on the back. You can't find that little fella running around. Yeah, that could be dangerous. It could be a dangerous combination. Yeah, I'm glad he came to his senses because, you know, this actually is going to extend his career and make him a better quarterback by finding him.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, I actually watched this game from beginning to maybe the third quarter. You knew the game was gonna be over beginning of the fourth quarter. And when I seen them, this game start, and like you said, Mike, first possession, well, not first possession, but the first drive of the game,
Starting point is 00:52:06 he was trying to get it to Harrison. He said, we gonna nip this shit in the bud. They talking about us all week. We ain't got time for this shit. We gonna nip this in the bud right away. Like you said, that bomb, the first touchdown when he hit the toe tap, did the Sammy Davis Jr. got his feet in bounds, amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Then he went down and threw another completion about 20 yards and Marvin Harrison Jr. finished with the rest when he ran. Then he extended the ball over the goal line. I said, damn, yeah, that was, I said, these two young boys are gonna be really, really good. Then he made it, you know, I think it was third down and Kyle Murray scrambled, he's really good at scrambling.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Then Marvin Harrison Jr. got over for like a 40 yard completion. I said, you know, this game was really over in the first quarter to be totally honest with you. And it showed what Arizona could be like you said. Like they've really put the, beat the brakes off of the Rams early. And it was actually a really fun game to watch
Starting point is 00:53:03 because when I was watching the game actually live, I'm sitting there saying after that first touchdown because he tried to target him one time before he threw him the touchdown, just an incompletion. But when he got the touchdown, I said, oh, they tired of niggas talking all week. They said, we're going to end this shit right now and we're going to try and get this kid the ball. And I like what the coaching staff did, Kyla Murray, I don't know how much did Marvin Haverson and Kyla talk, but it looked like they talked and they said, now we can't have this going on all season. Let's get this shit together.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, Camp, you know what I saw too, cause you're right, and I don't, after the play, I'm still watching to see how they interact. The body language. You know what I mean? The body language. Right, right, right. I saw them come up down here together, you know. So usually when you get in that close to somebody,
Starting point is 00:53:48 you're pretty good with them. If they really didn't like each other and they had made play together, they would have just, you know, something like that. Right. It would have been a thumb pump or something, a fist hit. Right. But when you start banging heads together,
Starting point is 00:54:02 like you have to do okay. So yeah, so maybe they better than we thought, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I said, okay, maybe they got something or got a chance to do something here. Yeah, and then at the end of the day, you gotta realize as well, and we all expect athletes to stay professional
Starting point is 00:54:19 and composed because you guys are professional athletes and don't think you guys are human, I have emotions. And you ask a guy a question coming off of a loss, and he answers something like that. I don't know exactly when the question was asked, but it seemed like after the game when he wasn't getting Marvin Harvison Jr. the ball, is then when you ask these questions
Starting point is 00:54:40 and somebody may be upset and it's just a heat of the moment thing. I thought it was beautiful that they took care of that and if they didn't have butter early this year, this week. Okay. So we're going to wrap it up with the football topics today. Mike, it was a pleasure to have you today. Mike, thank you so much, man.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We appreciate you, man. Yeah, Mike, we got to shoot a documentary on the white house, man. They have been offering money for that documentary. The White House wasn't just full-grown blown, there were stages to getting to that. Started off in an apartment and we needed to grow. What, what, what, what? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, the move. I like that, thank you, Mike, we appreciate you. All right, guys, appreciate it all in. Yeah, the moves. I like that. Thank you, Mike. We appreciate you. All right, guys. Appreciate it, man. So before we end, we got to discuss the fight. So Canelo beat Edgar Berlinga to give him his first career loss. Given that we interviewed him, if you guys haven't watched
Starting point is 00:55:39 that interview, make sure you go back and watch it. What did you guys think of this fight? Man, man, man. I just, I just thought when he, the way he spoke here, that he was going to take that energy to the fight. I really was surprised by the, the switch up and you know, here at it, at it is what it is, we gotta call it straight. There was a switch up.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Oh, switch up is great. Right. Because I mean, I thought what Canelo did to him, the way he was talking, he was going to do the Canelo. There is a, is an often rule that people use in boxing saying that the younger, stronger fighter is supposed to always that the younger, stronger fighter is supposed to always be the older, smaller fighter. And that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So, um, I think when he got knocked down and changed the complex of the whole fight, and I also made another observation, his shoes, when niggas fight in shoes that look like, um, what they call it, Rick Owens, they go to the ground. Those the same shoes Devin had on. I'm glad I caught that. I'm glad I caught that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I think it's trying to be fancy when you go into a war, you don't, you don't try to look fly in a war. You, you win the war and come back with the spoilers. Don't go don't try to look fly in a war you you win the war and come back with the spoils don't go out there trying to look good and I think like he kept hitting his shorts like this and I'm thinking okay if you're that aggressive knock him out and what happened what happened killer switch up the switch up look one thing you know what I thought about Murda is that what you can say about Aga. I think he could have beat Canelo, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I wasn't going to say that. I was going to say that he knows how to sell a fight. He knows how to promote it. When he was up here, I was like, okay. All right. I thought he, at least I didn't think, I don't know if I thought he was gonna win. I'm not gonna say that. But I thought he'd get four or five rounds.
Starting point is 00:57:53 He won zero rounds. He did not win one round. And Canelo walks him down the whole fight from beginning and walks him down. And he had an obvious size advantage pause. And he walked him down and he had an obvious size advantage, poise, like, and he walked him down. He knows how to sell a fight, man, you know? And that matters, cause some people are good and don't.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Some people are good boxers, but poor advertisers. He said he's got a six round knockout on this show and when I seen him, I'm like, and he was, he's kinda smooth, you know? He was like, I got that, you know? So I'm like, and he was, he's kind of smooth, you know, he was like, you know, so I'm like, I maybe just, maybe we got to give this nigga a few rounds. The reason why I say he could have won, I mean, I thought he could have won is because he's six one Canelo is five seven.
Starting point is 00:58:38 So when, I mean, you know, boxing, if he had, he had a strong jab, if he would've used this jab, it could have been a different fight, but he just kept going backwards in the corner, which was alarming. Yeah, he didn't use his reach at all, but, and I'm not comparing Canelo to who I'm about to say, but man, that nigga was taller than Mike Tyson. When you're nice, you're nice, man.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I just, I don't rock with Canelo like that because he got caught on steroids. Once you go to the steroid route, you out of the books for me. But as far as the skill level, after he lost to Floyd Mayweather, he picked his defense up. When I, what I did, what I will say is this though, Mase,
Starting point is 00:59:17 when I seen that fight, I was like, he may be just a little too big for Terrence Crawford. If, if, if he was thinking about that fight, he's at 168, too big for Terrence Crawford. If, if, if he's thinking about that fight, he's at 168, uh, too big of a fighter. Cause if he's doing that to Eggers, uh, I don't think, I don't think that, uh, there's too much of disparity and weight difference. I w what, and another thing, and you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Another thing I thought about when I was watching this fight is why won't he fight David Benavides? Like if you keep saying all this stuff, come on Canelo, you got to fight Benavides. I don't know why this fight hasn't happened already. Enough of the excuses. We can't put you in that conversation if there's somebody clearly there that you're avoiding. It's in your best interest to stay away from Benavidez, the Mexican monster is what they call him, the Mexican monster. Yeah. Come on now.
Starting point is 01:00:14 You fought everybody else. You run everybody else down. You walk everybody else down. You fought Caleb. You fought just everybody. Benavidez deserve a shot. He's been a champion. He's been axing for the fight for the longest.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You gave the fight to Egger, give the fight. And I guess he's saving Benavides for his last fight. Yeah, well, listen, man, he handpicked Egger, my personal opinion, and back to the Edgar fight, and I agree with what you just said. At least, I don't know Benavides. After seeing the skills on Canelo, Benavides just hit hard, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:51 That nigga hits hard, pause. He's hard, he is hard. But back to the original fight that we were talking about with Edgar, and I thought he would win a few rounds. And then when, I didn't like his corner, what he was saying. His corner, when it was about round eight, and we know he didn't like his corner, what he was saying, his corner, and it was about round eight,
Starting point is 01:01:05 and we know he didn't want to round yet, the corner said, you good, you good? We just weather the storm, baby, just weather the storm. Just weather the storm, niggas. Round eight, you're down, oh eight. You got to go knock a nigga out. But when I heard that, I said, they may be here for the check.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Just stay cool, leave with all your senses, weather the storm and let's get this money. Cause you don't tell your fighter to weather the storm there, 08, in the eighth round of a 12 round fight. You tell that nigga, you know you gonna fuck this money up. You know it's over after this, we not gonna get this type of payday again. Go knock this nigga out
Starting point is 01:01:46 because you're not gonna win on the scorecards. You don't tell a nigga to weather the storm when you down 08. And after that, I didn't like it. I didn't like that. And after the fight, I just said to Canelo his idol, he grew up watching him.
Starting point is 01:02:00 He was his favorite. And you know, he's so happy. He gave him opportunity, gave me a hug. And I just said all of that to sell a fight. Yeah, yeah. I really didn't like that. Yeah, yeah, I like you, man. I turned off the TV when I saw that.
Starting point is 01:02:18 When he said he's my, his idol, I was like, damn. Cause we're not easily fool. I didn't say he was going to win, but I'm like, I gave him three to four rounds off the top. No, I really thought he could have won. It's just when I saw the brick orange, I knew he wasn't going to win. When I see niggas too stylish, I knew, I just know,
Starting point is 01:02:42 you know what I'm saying? Every time when a nigga go night night or a nigga lose, it be because of that. I remember when Roy walked out like that. I was like, yo, this is not good. Niggas like, man, that's Roy. Next thing you know, Roy was under the ropes. I almost cried.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That knockout hurt me. Well, in the comments down below, let us know what you guys think about the fight. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching!

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