IT IS WHAT IT IS - NELLY AND JERMAINE DUPRI PULLED UP ON US AT THE STUDIO FOR A SHOW!! | S3 EP.7

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one only this time being joined by Maurice Clarett, Jermaine Duper & NELLY!! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

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I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, soon to be Mace and Cam. What's going on, Stat? What's happening? I'm good. How are you? I can't complain, man. We got some people in the building today. Yeah, we got a lot of people in the building today.

It's going to be a good episode. Today, we are joined in studio with Nelly, Jermaine Dupri, and our analyst, Maurice Claret. What's going on, man? This is a star-studded event. Yo, we almost got the whole country in here. There's nobody from the West Coast in here right now. We got the East Coast. We got the Midwest.

We got the South. Look, I just want to tell you guys, thank you so much for joining. Mo, what's up? I'm going to get with you in one minute. I just want to tell you guys, thank so much for joining Mo what's up I'm going to get with you in one minute I just want to tell you guys thank you so much for joining me JD

I didn't even know you was coming man I didn't either no he was with me man I just said I got to go something no I seen Rocco earlier with Nelly

and Rocco's always with JD since the very first time I ever met JD and I was saying that how much I love you know know, we in New York, we be fighting, don't speak to each other for 15 years. And me and Mason's got cool again a year and a half ago after not speaking for 15 years.

And it's like, damn, man. And when I see people together for so long, it really makes me happy to unity and people sticking together. Nelly, you my man, before we even get to anything with you and get to some sports, I want to say thank you to JD. I don't think I ever got a chance to thank him because he's on my first album with two different cuts, actually did a hook for me.

And when I was young, I was real arrogant because my man Mace just sold four million records and I'm thinking I'm supposed to sell four million records. And I don't think I ever gave JD his flowers for even doing what he did for me. Because I may have been thinking in my brain, well, Mace sold 4 million. I'm about to sell 4 million. And it just didn't work out like that. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to tell you, thank you, JD.

And I really appreciate it. And I don't think I ever gave you some of your flowers that you deserve. Because I may have been arrogant. But I just want to tell you it meant a lot to me that you did that for me, invited me to your house. And you didn't have to do that. So I just want to tell you thank you in front of everybody because I probably never even did it privately, let alone publicly. So I really salute you and tell you thank you. And thank you for coming through and still doing your fucking thing before me, after me.

And Puff better watch his mouth when I'm fucking versus, nigga. I think we used to talk about shit dangerous with JD. Don't sleep on that nigga shit. We'll get real dangerous,

man. So, just thank you though. Seriously, I just want to tell you thank you very much, man. I appreciate that.

Well, it's a pleasure to have both of you guys here. Maurice, how are you doing today as well? Mo C! The old cocaine cowboys. Uh-oh. Well, it's a pleasure to have both of you guys here Maurice. How are you doing today as well? Mo C! Cocaine Cowboys. Oh, you got the Cocaine Cowboys shirt on. Yeah, I see them.

Cause you know what happened? I'm bringing y'all up to speed. So I said the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that Oh my God. No, I said a lot of the players was on cocaine. So they may want to revisit that in 2024. So it may be the cocaine cowboys. So Moe, when they got the shirt done, if the Jerry Jones, y'all may want to look into this. The last time a Super Bowl was won was when y'all was on cocaine.

The cocaine cowboys. Y'all may want to revisit that if you want another Super Bowl. Mo, shirts is fire. Send my shit in. I can't wait. We off and running. Yeah, they want to send them shits to Dallas. Trust me, that's the last time they won. Shout out to Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Mike Irving, you my nigga. That's my kid.

Yeah. Well, we all know what happened the last time That Super Bowl Was down there in Dallas man Church is fire baby Bet you guys didn't expect To start the show With cocaine cowboys I actually heard y'all Talk about that

You left out the fact That it's the White House That's what it They had though Oh yeah Bring some more light To the show please You know he a cowboy

So please tell us what you mean. Yeah, they hang out with the White House. They had to close the White House. So the nickname of the house where they was getting high at was called the White House. Yes, I don't know if they was getting high. I'm not saying that. You're not saying what they was doing in there. It's called the White House.

No, J.D., you're not just going to say the White House is trying to move on. What do you mean the White House? Break that for the viewers. They hang out. The Cowboys hang out was called the White House. In the 90s, you're saying for the viewers? Yeah, everybody know this. This ain't like nothing.

It's a secret. Okay, just because JD trying to brush over it. So sometimes we got viewers just learning sports as we go along. When JD is saying that the Cowboys that won the Super Bowls back in the 90s used to hang out in the house called the White House. JD is saying he doesn't know why it was called the White House, but why would it be called the White House in Dallas? Maybe it was white, though.

It was a big-ass White House, though, from what I was understanding. Listen, man, the White House is in D.C. It was a big White House. Okay, okay, I'm just bringing the viewers up to speed. The White House is in D.C. Yeah, that's why House. Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm just bringing the viewers up to speed. It's in D.C. Yeah, that's why I was wondering why a White House would be in Dallas. But, you know, he's a Cowboy fan, so he has more. We heard they found some in that White House, too, not too long ago.

So it's all good in D.C. Yeah, that's a fact. Look, man, IJD don't want to say there's prostitution going on. It was cocaine. Listen, I heard Michael. Listen, Michael Irvin is my man. But I I heard Michael Urban say out of his own mouth, we was trying to do the right, the wrong thing the right way. What's the wrong thing the right way? So where they went was the White House. So they could do all the wrong things the right way. We here now. Yeah.

All the way. All the way. Welcome, baby. We here now. Yeah. All the way. All the way. Welcome, baby. Welcome, baby. It's how we do. Okay, so let's get into the sports topics. Alabama head coach Nick Saban has retired. He has a record seven national championships, six of them in Alabama, a record 15 straight

seasons during which the team was ranked number one at some point, and a record 44 Alabama players picked in the first round of the NFL draft. seasons during which the team was ranked number one at some point and a record 44 Alabama players picked in the first round of the NFL draft. But what do you think contributed to him calling it quits? Mo, you go first, baby. Yeah, I think the landscape has changed, man. You have more young kids, black kids, I'll say it, who have more power. And I think everybody in the room has seen this, where you'll have black kids who become in power, who can think for themselves, who have resources, who have money. And I just think this is an era that he doesn't want to coach in. He doesn't want to deal with that. That dynamic has never been a part of him coaching,

recruiting. He's never had to recruit against somebody like Prime. He's never had to recruit in the social media era. And I think when you look at what happened with Dabo Sweeney, I think he kind of looking like, man, I'm 70 years old. You know, he owns a bunch of Mercedes Benz dealerships and Ferrari dealerships. And I think he's like, look, man, this is my last run. I don't want to be involved in this stuff. I don't want to be around these kids.

He's a good guy. I love a lot of his material, but I just think he just realizes that the game that he once knew isn't here anymore. He just wants to move on. Want to chime in, Big Tom? Yeah. Goddamn, T.

Turn that shit off. Turn the Bluetooth off so you don't make that mistake again. I like it. Nick Saban threw a grenade in here. Damn, Nick. No, to his point, well, first of all, let me say that, you know, Nick is one of the goats when it comes to coaching.

I mean, his stats is unmatched. It's unprecedented what he was able to do in college football. But I think he hit it on the head. I think it's very, very convenient at this point in time when you talk about dealing with NIL, you're talking about dealing with the portal, you're talking about people being able to, you just don't have to go to Alabama now to be seen, so to speak, or have to go to some of these big colleges to be seen. I mean, and I think it's very, very convenient. Now, that doesn't mean that he's not genuine when he says that he's done. I just think the timing was hella convenient at this point.

Like, yo, you know what? Like Maurice just said, you know, I don't want to have to deal with somebody like Prime or any of these young coaches that are coming in that's on a different level right now. Definitely because of the social era. Everybody want to be seen. You want to chime in, Jake? Hold on, Jake. Let's go around the board. What did he say?

Go ahead, Mo. Yeah, go ahead. I didn't know he was going to go, but it's to the point where Prime came in, and they tried to minimize and try to make it into a circus. That's what they want to market it as. But he showed you I can cut through all this history. And there's a lot of former players who want to exist in that same environment. And Saban is smart.

He's like, man, if Prime can come and cut through all of what I've built over my history and he can get the same recruits and he can go raise the same money and he can go solicit the same kids who come out the hood of St. Louis, Atlanta, New York, wherever these dudes come from, that's a contributing factor to your whole business model. And so I think that that is like, that has to be looked at, because I'm pretty sure there's a lot of college coaches that feel that way. It's just, I don't know, it's a new era. My fault. I don't want to take up all the time. No, go ahead. It's all good.

Yeah. I thought the Fal to take up all the time. No, go ahead. It's all good. Yeah. I thought the Falcons coach got cut, right? So then, you know, Arthur Blank had hollered at them and told, dude, come to Atlanta. That's what I think. So you think he going to the NFL? Yeah. You're Nick Saban?

Yeah. I'll say this, like, when Moses said Nelly, Maurice, I call him Nelly Moses, just so we do the same face. Yeah, I just tripped up there. And we got more on the screen. They're absolutely right. He had an outstanding career. Legacy is undeniable as far as college football is concerned.

But get the fuck out of here, nigga. You can't keep up with prom. You was hating on prom in the fucking beginning. Prom started doing its thing. Then you want to do commercials with prom. A lot of niggas was like, we've been on Nick Saban ass this whole season. So niggas was like, Cam, y'all ran him out. God take the credit because you can't

look, I take it as you, like Maurice made a great point. You can't keep up what's going on with NIL, so you rather quit. I'm not even going to sit here and say all this nice shit they say. You can't even keep up.

Damn, I can't control niggas no more. That's what it basically boils down to. And it stops becoming about Alabama. When you go to Alabama, you know you going to an institution. You going to Alabama.

Nick Saban is the biggest name in Alabama. Now, with Prime, it is different, but he at least allows going to an institution, you going to Alabama, Nick Saban is the biggest name in Alabama. Now with prime, it is different, but he, he at least allows, allows his players to shine. Now with NIL, if you're a superstar player and you know, you go to Alabama, you won't be bigger than Alabama. But if you go to a different school and you can shine, that's more money for you in your pocket. The whole thing about the NIL situation.

But this is what I'm saying, Nelly, is that NIL just came into play. Before that, you're like, if I go to Alabama, LSU, it's a better chance I'm going to the NFL. And you're not making any money. So your thing is to go to Alabama so you could get to the money. Right. Niggas is getting to the money now. Exactly.

That's what I'm saying. Exactly. So we're agreeing with each other. And now that niggas is getting to the money, money now. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Exactly. So we're agreeing with each other. And now that niggas is getting to the money, it's like when Travis in Colorado, when Deon got him, Nick was accusing the niggas, giving them a million dollars before he got there. Deon and Travis was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Nobody gave me a million dollars.

Oh my bad. I didn't mean it if you didn't give it to him. Nick, bye. Go to NFL. JD got the inside scoop. Go to Atlanta. Bye. Go to the fucking- That's just my bad. I didn't mean it. If you didn't give it to her, Nick, bye, go to NFL. JD got the inside scoop. Go to Atlanta. Bye, go to the fucking.

That's just my thought. That's your thought? That's just my thought. Anyway, we can't see you get the, wait to get out of here because you can't keep up with niggas

and now you mad. I call that some sucking shit because you quit two or three years in the NIL instead of trying to figure it out and say,

how could I manipulate the situation? It was a recruit that was talking. I don't know the recruit's name. And he was saying it wasn't Nick Saban, but he was telling another coach. I wasn't sure if it was Oregon. I believe it was Oregon coach. I don't want to say the wrong coach.

Moe probably talking about Maurice. And he said, no, I think I'm going to go to Colorado. And they said, what the fuck? You want to be a rapper? Nigga's like, yeah, I think I'm going to go to Colorado. And they said, what the fuck? You want to be a rapper? Nigga's like, damn. Yeah, that type shit. You know what I'm saying?

You know who it is, bro? Why you wouldn't want to go play for the... Yeah, it was the lineman. Go ahead. Go ahead. You know what I'm talking about. Right. Yeah, the lineman from Colorado,

they were trying to solicit him away from Colorado. And basically what they said was that you know like this one talk about they would say you want to be a rapper that's the only reason she would want to go to dion and they try to make him theatrical as if he wasn't a hall of fame player and had a career and so what they what they do is when it comes to like so basically nick saban can't control anymore and he don't want to compete against niggas. And you kind of opened the door with this one up, but that's all it is. And all of these coaches, they'll attack the character or things that loosely that they feel represent black people or niggas and say, hey, man, you want to sit in a rapper bucket?

Or it's like the only way you're going up there is to be entertained. And so I don't know. You look at it. You shake your head. You can give him his props know. You look at it, you shake your head. Like, you can give him his props to say who he was, but you shake your head and like you say, he runs from this new environment. You know, he got beat by hardball so the SEC isn't the

dominant figure anymore or the dominant figure in college football anymore. And it's just a new day. You know, so I'm happy though. And real quick, just to the NIL point, it's like with Marvin Harrison Jr., you know, he could just to the NIL point, it's like with Marvin Harrison Jr., you know, he could go to the NFL now. Ohio State is offering him,

and, you know, the reports are super-duper high. Mo, we was talking about it maybe two weeks ago, but it was a headline that they're offering $25 million to stay for one more year. Mo was saying it'd be more regular around $6 or $7, $8 million if he stayed. Mo was saying it'd be more regular around six or seven, eight million if he stayed when he would make in the NFL. So let me ask you this. I'll ask you the question. If you're in college right now, Nelly, and you go to NFL next year and you're going to

make $10 million, but Ohio State or whatever school you're at saying, stay one more year because you have another year eligibility and we'll give you the same $10 million that the NFL will give you, what would you do in that scenario? You know what? That's a tough one in a sense, but I mean mean i probably would lean more towards staying one more year but depending on how my contract reads because if i stay one more year am i am i going to be insured what happens if i get hurt right and i and and something happens that i can't get to the nfl if i get to the nfl you know what i'm saying? I don't know how the pension shit works or whatever the case may be.

You ain't getting no pension in one year. That's my point. So if I go to the NFL, I probably would stay. I probably would stay because as long as I can stay healthy, then that's 20 mil in two years. See, that's the thing. I would stay too because you get the same injury that you're worried about. You can catch the 20 mil in two years. See, that's the thing. I would stay too because you get the same injury that you're worried about,

you can catch the same injury in the NFL and I think the injury risk is higher playing with grown men than playing with younger boys. and there's more games. And there's more games.

It's way more grueling than college. You know what I mean? NFL games is real life, man. I saw Ray Lewis hit Marshall Falk one time and I, I swear to God, boy, I was Ray Lewis hit Marshall Falk one time, and I swore to God, boy.

I was like... Listen, homeboy Warner from St. Louis. When the Rams was in St. Louis. Yo. What's the nigga Warner? Yeah, Kurt Warner. Nigga knocked him out of his career. Career got knocked out.

Nigga said, they knocked his whole ass out in retirement. They said, sit your ass down. He said, I'm good. I'm good. I had a great career. Yo. Real quick, Befa, are you here?

Your friends is here. Befa, your crew is here, man. Check it. What the fuck you got on your head, Befa? Murder. He frozen? He's frozen. This is great.

Get that, bro. Yo, JD is here. JD is here. Maurice Floret and Nelly is here. JD is here. Maurice Floret and Nelly is here. That's a great shot. Oh, you need that picture. Take a picture of that screen. Yo, your Wi-Fi is wax, bitch.

It's the hat, man. Yo, Mo, yo, yo, Murda, you got to fix your Wi-Fi, B. You got that Australian Wi-Fi. That shit ain't coming through right. Pause. You can't hear me? You can hear me. If that's what we're doing, let me know.

I got you. And get petty up here. I got you. And get petty. I got you. You ain't pause. Killer, that was crazy. Welcome back. Welcome back

Welcome back You left me yesterday I handled the show by myself It was cool Listen hold on now Murder Your Wi-Fi is trippy And you got What the fuck you got on your wrist

Man That's what's fucking the Wi-Fi What's on your head I'm taking all the signals Yep Juicy Yeah It's that been around the world It's got Nelly What's on your head? I'm taking all the signals. Yep. Juicy. Yeah.

It's that been around the world. It's got Nelly tickets. It got so, so deaf tickets on it. It got DMX tickets on it. Oh, yeah. All right, cool, man. Okay. You need a stronger Wi-Fi signal, man.

But we back. We're going to get ready to move on so you can jump right in, pause, since everybody's on point today. Pause. Nelly wants to play, pause. So he's in. He's in, pause.

Nah, champ. I'm hearing what I'm hearing. You know what I mean? No, you watch the show and you got a hall of pass too. You really, you got some hall of, some hall of shit with you too, man.

Yeah, man. I've been up there before. Yeah. And then real quick to the Nick Saban point. I mean, he is 72 years old and he did say that his age was making it a lot harder for him to compete. And then just with the climate,

kind of like what you guys said, there's a lot going on for head coaches. So I just don't think that he can compete with what other coaches got going on right now. But I will say for whoever's going to fill his shoes, I would not want that job right now because it's going to be hard to bring Alabama and keep them at a consistent power point. But we'll see what happens. It's still a great school. Yeah, it is. Definitely. Okay. Moving along.

There's a lot of coaches who are leaving. Bill Belichick and the Patriots have parted ways after 24 seasons. He was the highest paid NFL coach gaining around $25 million annually. But this year, the Patriots had a 4-13 record. So was it time for Belichick to leave? 4-13 for 25 mil? That was financial. I think he might be in the same boat as Nick to a certain degree. Nick Saban. To a certain degree in the sense of, yeah, I think once Tom left,

I think a lot of his, man, I'm trying to watch myself around these parts. Be careful. Be careful. I think a lot of his skeletons was coming out the closet, so to speak, in the theory of the way him and Tom complimented each other as far as working together on the field. Did I say that right? That was a whole like, I don't know. Damn.

You can tell he's like, I'm really trying to like, are you sure you're saying. Nah, we ain't that pretty. We ain't gonna change. Champ. You know what I mean? It's a whole, like, I don't know. Damn. He's like, I'm really trying to, like, make sure you say it. Nah, we ain't that pretty. We ain't going to change. Champ, you know what I mean?

We ain't going to be out here. Nah. You winning right now, so you don't want to catch one of Paul's. Go ahead, Mo. Maurice. No, I think it's the same thing. Like, you know, sports and music is almost the same thing, right? Where you have people who you catch lightning in the bottle with.

You know know he had tom for all those years and you had all those amazing defenses you know he had josh mcdaniels as his office as an officer coordinator and you just build like magic with people inside of these moments and then when you're when your people start to leave you think you can recreate the same thing and i think he just started to realize like man i don't have Uh, I don't have the patience probably to rebuild a quarterback and go on that same run that I went on with Tom. And so I just think he's gracefully bowing out, realizing that,

um, sometimes you just have moments where you have the, and I just can name it a music thing, the right producers, the right studios, the right people, the right, everything.

It's the same thing with this show. This show is the same thing as the Patriots. You catch the light. No, the fuck we not. What Patriots you talking about? 2001? You better be talking about the 2001-2003 Patriots, not the 2024 Patriots, nigga. But truth be told, he may not be done, though. He may not be done. He said he's not done. He may go somewhere else. I just think that time

has ran out in New England. He said he's not finished coaching. God, I ain't want to cut you off, but don't ever compare us to the 2024 Patriots, nigga. Fuck you talking about. I just wanted to be clear on that. Yeah, he... No, but you know what I'm talking about. Like, I'm talking about the golden years of that. I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, you know, the golden years of that were... We don't know, Maurice. I didn't even know he was still on the show. We don't know there go my niggas he back now yeah there he go murder

we talking about the niggas it's four and thirteen and that nigga say yeah this show is like the patient what the fuck is that talking

what is he talking about murder yeah yeah what is Nelly talking about that nigga ain't gotta go home but he gotta get out of here gotta go somewhere no Maurice Claret Maurice Claret said that What is Nelly talking about? That man ain't got to go home, but he got to get out of here.

He got to go somewhere. No, Maurice Clauret said that. No, I didn't say that, Jeff. I think that hat too tight. That was the other mode, cuz. You know what I'm saying? Yo, Nelly, that was crazy. The hat too tight Is crazy Really

The hat too tight Is crazy Oh Oh man That's what Did you go to court for that Yeah You might have to go to court

Like what is the ball cap No go ahead The ball cap That might have been it Yo Murda What do you think That might have been it I don't even gonna say what do you think? That might have been it. I ain't even going to say that.

Yeah, that was $1. Yo, Murda, what you think about Bill Belichick retiring? You think you had something to do with that? I think I paused. I walked him out. You know, I'm an expert like that, Killer. When I talk about something, it happens. So I'm glad they got the code, Kim.

You're working that. I'm going to help you go to the Super Bowl right now by letting you know who's going to win the championship before it ever happens. Nobody on that desk can say this. It's only I can say this because they told me. Nobody else can say this, Kim. Who's going to win, Murda? Who's going to win, Murda?

Who's going to win, Murda? The reason I'm saying this is because you said about three weeks ago Bill Belichick may not be there at the end of the season. I'm trying to give you your props, and you don't even want to accept them. If you want to give us your prediction for the Super Bowl, we're here to listen. We're trying to work with you because you're on such a delay. Not right now.

Not right now. Not right now, Cam. All right, Ben. Not you're on such a delay. Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. I can't do it right now. I can't do it right now. J.D., what do you think about Bill leaving? Everything is coming to Atlanta. You know what I mean?

Bill and Nick Saban together? I'm just saying, you know. Man, this is. This nigga, yo, I've never seen a more Atlanta nigga in my life. This nigga is the most Atlanta. This nigga is the 33rd for real. Wait, wait, wait. Listen, we got an nigga in my life. This nigga is the most Atlanta. Wait, wait, listen. We got an issue. We got an issue.

Let me tell you something. I tell them all the time, Atlanta, only baseball and soccer. That's the only championships they winning. Basketball and football, they got good players and good teams, but let me tell you what happens. There's too many brothers on them teams. See, when Atlanta wins, Atlanta turns up. And every step Atlanta gets closer to a championship, they turn up even more.

And just like, remember when they was up at halftime? All of them, JD, everybody went live at halftime. It's on fire. It's going now. We about to kick it. Boy, that did not age well. It wasn't even two hours later, you could have dropped a pin in Atlanta and heard that thing drop. Yeah, I'm not going to lie.

That was one of the worst, worst second halves I ever seen in my life, man. I forgot about that, actually. And look, that brings it back to Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, I'll just say this, Tom Brady won when it comes to the battle of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. It never was right when Tom Brady got hurt. Jimmy Garoppolo came in. Jimmy Garoppolo did a good job. He wanted,

Bill Belichick wanted to replace Tom Brady with Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm going to let you go in a minute. I see. Yeah. Nelly, I'll let you go. I'll let everybody go. That first Super Bowl was fraudulent.

Nelly, how you going? I'll let everybody go. The first Super Bowl was fraudulent, bro. Nelly, it doesn't go like that. I'll let you go again. It goes around. And then it's my go. And then if you want to go again, you can go. It's fraudulent. I'll let you go again. It goes around. And then it's my go. And then if you want to go again, you can go.

I'll let you go first. And then you just want to cut me off 35 seconds into my shit. What's fraudulent? Okay, let's argue about it. What's fraudulent? That first Super Bowl was fraudulent. What first Super Bowl? They beat the Rams.

And that's when the Spygate, your man Ben Belichick, was cheating. They was taping our practices. What does this have to do with Jimmy Garoppolo? Because it's never about the quarterback at the end of the day with Tom Brady or Bill Belichick. I'm just saying it's fraudulent, bro. You sound like you're emotionally over some territorial shit because it was the St. Louis Rams at the time before they went to L.A. Anyway, like I was going to say, I don't even know what the fuck Jimmy Louis Rams at the time before they went to L.A. Anyway, like I was going to say,

I don't even know what the fuck Jimmy Garoppolo had to do with any of that. Bill Belichick wanted to replace Tom Brady with Jimmy Garoppolo.

Tom Brady, when he came back from injury, didn't have it, went to Robert Kraft, went over Bill Belichick's head and said, get Jimmy Garoppolo

the fuck out of here. It been turmoil ever since then and then when Tom Brady left, everybody's like, oh, who's going to win, Bill Belichick or Tom Brady? Bill Belichick or Tom Brady? Tom Brady goes to Tampa. Tom Brady ends up getting the Super Bowl

the very first year that he leaves the Patriots. Bill Belichick hasn't been able to recover since. He got Cam Newton. Cam Newton caught COVID. He ended up with Mac Jones. Mac Jones seemed like he should still be in college because he hasn't done shit in the NFL yet. And Bill Belichick is like,

I can't really do anything with this. Robert Kraft is like, look, we're a historic organization. We have a reputation to keep. I don't know if we're going to get it with you. Pause. It looks like they may need to rebuild. And if they do rebuild,

Bill Belichick is way too old to be rebuilding. He's 72 years old. It's about to be 72 years old. So, yeah, JD. I was talking about this earlier, right? And Bao said that

he think that he going to the Raiders and because Tom Brady is part owner of the Raiders. Right. You talking about Bill Belichick?

Yes. Well, listen, the thing about it is I just want to get to kind of where we were at real quick. And Bill Belichick, like I said, he's too old to rebuild. I think he had a historic career. The Patriots are my team, and I'm from New York for a very long time. So you don't think he's going to coach no more at all? No, he said he's going to coach. I was watching all day yesterday, and Bill Belichick said he's not finished coaching.

He says he's coming back to coach. It's just not going to be with the Patriots. And even at the speech yesterday, I watched the whole speech with him and Robert Kraft, and Robert Kraft was saying, I'm going to be rooting for Bill Belichick along the way, no matter what, except for when he plays against the Patriots. So they both kind of indicated that he'll be coming back. I just don't think that the Patriots are going to win anything. And he's saying, look, Bill Belichick, and God bless,

if he lived to be 150, but let's be serious, maybe 20 years, God willing. And he still wants to coach. He needs to get somewhere to go and win in the next five, six years possibly. You want to talk about the Rams now? Fraudulent. It's all good. No, no, no, no. Fraudulent.

No, definitely fraudulent. No, but I think that they both had a good chemistry, like you said again. But Tom Brady actually in those first couple Super Bowls, he didn't play that well. You know what I'm saying that first Super Bowl he played he didn't play good at all actually those defenses and I think that that's probably what set Bill in the spiral of him thinking that you know I'm saying um defense well defense does win championships but um just thinking he can plug a quarterback in that position to play. That's a nigga out the side of the window like Flavor Flav.

He's bugging me out, yo. It might have been Flav. That's the crazy part about this. He talking, I'm watching this nigga do the Flavor Flav shit. All day. All day. All the time. That's what I'm saying.

He doing Flavor. I don't know what he's doing. All day. My bad, bro. Gang banging on baby. No, I'm just, no, what I'm saying. He's doing play. I don't know what he's doing. All day. My bad, Mo. Gang banging on baby. No, I'm just, no, I'm watching it. No, but see, the thing about it, Mo, and you're right, is that Bill Belichick is a defensive coach.

He was a defensive coach with the Giants. That's why he loves Lawrence Taylor so much. That's his favorite player. Then he went to the Browns. He's a defensive-minded coach. And what they was talking about in the press conference today as well is that, you know, they were saying that

he's also the general manager, not just the coach. He's picking the players. Right. So they're saying that he didn't have that job. He earned that job with Robert Kraft.

The first three years, he wasn't general manager. Robert Kraft said he earned that cachet with him to make him general manager. But obviously, that's not working out. You're picking the food,

cooking the groceries, picking out the groceries, cooking them isn't working out. You're picking the food, picking out the groceries, cooking them isn't working out. And I think it was mutual. They wouldn't say, they said it's mutual, but it's like, look, I got five, six years to get something done. Rob, I love you, but it ain't going to happen here. Rob's like, yo,

you served your time here. You won me six championships. You took us to eight and nine. I think it was great, and I think they had a great run. So salute to Bill Belichick, but it was no indication that he's not going to coach anymore. JD says he has some inside information that he's coming to the Raiders.

So we're going to keep an eye. JD got a lot of shit going on. Nick Saban is going to Atlanta and Bill Belichick is going to Vegas because Tom Brady has something to do with the race. This is JD. Let's keep an eye on this for next season

because we may come back and get to the videotape if you're right. Balgon won't credit for that, though. All right, say no more. And then, Maurice, did you have another point about Belichick because I saw you? No, when I heard Cam talking,

I was wondering if Bill Belichick's ego wants to win another championship without Tom Brady, because a lot of people talk about he can't do it without Tom Brady. And Tom Pete Carroll. And Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, and Bill Belichick are all over 70 years old. And nobody wants to just do this to do it. I'm pretty sure they want to win another championship before they die. I'm not saying they're about to die. But it's life. We're not stupid. But it's definitely ego involved.

But what happens is this, too. When you've been doing this so long, you say, I'm going to go retire. And if you don't have a plan B, you sit home on the couch and you yell at your TV on Sundays. Or if you coach college, you yell at your TV on Saturdays. And you're like, your wife is like, why don't you go out and coach a high school team or something? Because you ain't here driving me crazy. This is what you've been doing the last 40, 50 years and you never had, and you made enough money so you're financially secure to where it isn't like you have to go out and do anything else. But if this is what you've been

doing the last 40, 50 years and you're not Nick Saban with 17 car dealerships, what do you do? That's the real question. Okay. Well, I love that you brought up Pete Carroll cause we're going to talk about Pete Carroll. So he's also done in Seattle, but as head coach, he will now have an advisor role. He coached the team for 14 seasons and led the team to win two NFC championships and their only Superbowl title in franchise history.

So how do you feel about this decision? And then just in general with all these coaches leaving other than NIL and like other things, what do you think that they're dealing with now that they haven't dealt with years ago? You know, the thing that's in common with all three of them, they all defense first coaches.

Okay. Right. They all, all of them, all of them is defense first. They think defense first. And if you look to where the game is moving, whether it's in college or whether it's even in the pros,

now defense still wins championships, but you got to be able to put up some points. Right. In the league, period. And I think all three of them are warranted or a little stubborn in their ways because they've all had success doing it their way. Right. And sometimes, like you were just explaining, it's hard to change just overnight like that, to be like, yo, you know what?

I'm going to think a little bit more offensive with what it is that I'm doing here. But when you've had success doing it your way, like you said, it's kind of like music. You go in and you got your method and your way of doing it and you done got hits and then you go in to work with somebody else and they like, yo yo try it like this and you like

yo who you talking to you know what I'm saying like this is how I do it and but now it's not working like that and I think they gotta let a little bit

of that ego go and start conforming a little bit more right what you got Mo and Murder I just for whatever reason when he said it,

just passing the baton. I don't know why when I look at Pete Carroll, he looks, I don't know, he comes off more of like a player's coach and then him just ascending to a different level. It looks like, hey, I'm getting out the way. My run is done. Let somebody else have the spot that I'm in.

But let me go play more of an executive role inside the system where the other two people, I don't know, I don't feel that same way about Belichick and Saban, but with Pete Carroll, I feel a little bit more positive about him. Go ahead, Murda, take some more credit for shit you didn't do. Go ahead, man.

He's frozen? What the fuck? Yo. He's not frozen. He's frozen? What the fuck? Nah, he not frozen. He not frozen. He's not even frozen, though. Like, what is going on? We can't hear you, bro.

We can't. This just doesn't seem real. Yeah, this is it. What's going on, man? Yeah. I can't hear anything that you're saying. Big trouble, little China. Yeah, that's going on, man? I can't hear anything that you're saying. Big trouble, little China. Yeah, that's what it looks like.

Mace, you got to get better Wi-Fi, man. This is kind of crazy today. Is it? Yo, Nick, we got? Yeah, okay, say no more. I like Pete Carroll. I totally agree with both you guys. I think that Pete Carroll

is definitely a player's coach. When I watch Pete Carroll on the sidelines, I'm like, yo, if I play football, I want to play for that guy. He's not the Nick Saban, and none of us look great for the age as well, but he's not the Nick Saban, Bill Belichick 77. He's jumping up. He's high-fiving. He's chest bumping. And I totally agree. If I had to guess, I have totally no knowledge on this. I totally agree with Maurice

saying that he's like, yo, man, I don't want to be in the way. I still want to be a part of this and help out and give my football knowledge and what I can bring to the table, but let somebody else do this. But I still want to be a part of it. I think he's a great coach.

Even before he got there, USC, he's a great coach. I really like Pete Carroll a lot. The one floor that Pete Carroll had in his whole career is not passing the ball, giving the ball to Marshawn Lynch to win that second Super Bowl. That's the one floor in his whole career. Outside of that one particular play, you know, they had Legion of Boom. We like Russell Wilson much better when he played under Pete Carroll and Marshawn Lynch with Skittles.

I love what was going on when they was at their prime, the Seattle Seahawks. So, salute to Pete Carroll and much success in the front office and what you're doing. You're one of my favorites. JD? I'm cool on this one. Okay, gotcha. You're not going to Atlanta?

Russell Wilson might go to Atlanta. Boy, I'm sorry. Somebody was saying something. Sorry. No, Russell Wilson might actually go to Atlanta, though. What? Oh, God. Now, Moe, we doing some shit.

So hold on now, Moe. J.D. just said 15 people going to Atlanta. He right, though. He right. He right. He right. He right. I didn't say what to say, but he right.

He right. He definitely right. I don't think Russell's done, though. I think Russell's still got a lot of, a lot of game. You know what I'm saying? Left him. I just think he needs to be more inspired.

And like, I, he's a baseball player, right? I played baseball my, my whole life. And some players, it's about their routine.

Right. And what I mean by that is, it's every day, everything you do, your mind focus. And, and this is just my opinion. i hope i'm not disrespecting anybody because i love russell wilson right but when you are not in a certain type of mind frame

when and i say that from like russell's a ball player i've watching him you know it never was about what he was wearing or if he was shining or what it was all ball you could just tell he grew up all playing ball or 24 hours a day baseball football whatever the case it was then I think maybe he got to a point to where it was other things in his mind that was taken away from the focus or whatever the case that may be right but I think if he just get back to just just just you know, playing ball and getting that mind frame he had that made him the success that he is,

because, you know, the guy's a hell of an athlete, man. You know what I'm saying? And I actually like the dude. I think he's just going through a tough time mentally. I don't know. I don't think his physical capabilities are strong. The thing about it, Nelly, when you come here, what are you talking about?

Well, I'm just saying, like, anything outside of playing. What are you referring to exactly, please? No, I'm just saying, like. We don't play these games up here. What do you mean his mental focus outside of football is right? What else is he thinking about? Anything that does not have anything to do with it. Give me an example of what other things may be.

Photo shoots. Okay. Anything. Oh, no. Photo shoots? Yeah, I'm just saying. No, I'm just saying. No, listen.

What are you talking about? Be more specific. You're talking about, so he's not playing good because he's having too many photo shoots? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is hilarious. I'm not saying that he's not playing well

because he didn't. He's not playing well. That could be a lot of factors. And we're, you alluded to that. I'm just saying team-wise. Could you be more specific as an analyst

of what you're talking about? Him not playing well, I don't think is 100% due to his athletic accountability. I'm saying with his team. Yo, yo, yo. You going to let me talk? My bad.

You going to let me talk? This is how this works, man. We go around. First it's me. Then it's Mo. No, because you know what? No, I'm serious. Because you saying the same.

You want to revolve and do it. We got you. No, I'm trying to line it up. I'm trying to line it up. I know what you're getting at, too, champ. I ain't getting'm trying to line it up. I know, I know what you're getting at. I know what you're asking, but I mean, listen,

ain't no commercials in this. We don't need to go to, we don't need to take a break. No, no, I'm just saying, bro. Like I know I,

I grew up with a lot of players who sometimes the light is too bright. And they get blinded by the light instead of just staying focused and playing ball. Everything outside of playing ball sometimes affects the way that you get on the field. You know what I'm saying? And I think. Can I say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, please. I'm going to You know what I'm saying? And I think... Can I say it? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, please.

I'm going to say it. When Bow Wow play me, when we be playing Madden, because we play, we big Madden players. Yeah. Bow Wow's always saying, you got to see CeCe, man.

I think that's what you basically saying. Yeah. Say what now? Oh. Yeah. What you say that? Say that again. I'm glad you said something, J.D. Because this is... No, no, no, no, no. You just now? Oh. Yeah. Would you say that again? I'm glad you said something, J.D.

Because this is what... No, no, no, no, no. You just need a translator. That's what you said. No, I'm not saying that in particular because I can't... First of all, you love J.D. You said it right.

But I'm saying for Bow to even say that, that's basically what, that's how people probably perceive it, right? Absolutely. And that might bother him. You know what I mean? Like, what he's saying is that, you know, if that wasn't the way it was before,

and then you hear somebody say, CeCe, man. What? The whole thing about it, Jay, why are you covering for this nigga? No. Why are you letting that happen? That's my big problem, bro.

Why you covering for this bitch? We had this conversation before. That's why it's so funny to me. Yeah, but I would never... First of all, I would never disrespect that man's family. You see what I'm saying? So, him and his beautiful kids, his wife, and all of that. He didn't disrespect.

No, I know he didn't. He didn't disrespect him. I know he didn't, but I wouldn't want to say anything to be like, yo, what the fuck is going on out there? Yo, what the fuck is going on out there? Yo, what the fuck is going on out there? yo, what the fuck is going on out there? This is crazy. The man is out there. He know what the fuck I'm talking about.

We don't know none of these niggas. No, but I just think that, you know, if he just locks in. Here's the thing. Who was the coach that just went up there? Who was the coach that just went up there? Who was the coach that just went to Denver? Sean Payton. Sean Payton. He said, went up there.

Your man had his own office. He said Russell Wilson had his own office in the locker room or just at the place. Like, who the fuck does that? You know what I'm saying? Like, how are you not? I know what you're saying. Like, Tom Brady never not like Tom Brady? Never.

If Tom Brady don't have a fucking office in a stadium, nobody should ever have a, have an office in a stadium. That's not an executive. You know what I mean? Like if you're part of the team, you're part of the team. And once you start separating yourself from the team, that's not how you grew up playing ball.

That's what I'm saying. That's something else that's influencing you. That's making you feel- Close the curtains on them niggas. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying, that's not how you grew up playing ball. You grew up being part of a team and you know camaraderie helps you out on the field. So now if you're in a position where you're separating yourself from that team then you lose the energy of the team you know what I mean so now if he did have an office sitting out there no wonder he's fucked up of course his mental is off there's nothing in his nothing in his right mind or in my right mind would make me think that he ever thought growing

up playing ball that he would have something that was separate from the team on any level if that makes sense of what i'm saying you know what i mean no it doesn't man jd said jd said the right shit hey leave the camera encourage me i want to see you okay okay okay i think that's it takes away from the experience okay cool i leave it Okay, cool. I ain't know if there's a problem with y'all. I don't know. It's all good. Your marriage is trying to get your attention. Nah, leave it on. I was just like, hey. I thought you knew you. Shit.

I don't know what they think. What make you think I do it? Oh, my God. Listen, I'll say this real quick because you, listen. I'm dancing? Sammy Davis Jr. I'm dancing. Michael Jackson.

The dance was crazy. Because if an athlete with the lights. I don't want him to come around. Sometimes if you see. Well, I got to with the office. And with the office. Listen, man.

And what I will say is this. J.D. got to it. He made a great point. And what happened then, you made a great point, too, is that when Sean Payton got there, it's been turbulence ever since. When Sean Payton first got there, he said, you got to stop kissing babies.

You got to stop shaking hands. You got to stop being nice to people. I'm talking about verbatim. This is exactly what Sean Payton said and Russell Russell Wilson it looks like he's a

genuinely nice guy no I believe he is I've met him a few times and he did right so you CC man nigga so that's just that if you don't want to say it

I'll say it you CC man nigga I can't say that no Nelly you can't keep you dance all for 20 minutes we watched a dance session this is not N no Nelly you can't keep you dance for 20 minutes we watched a dance session this is not

Nelly's opinion you can cut that shit this is this is Kim Ron's opinion and it's not JD's opinion because he said when somebody else said

this is me and Bow Wow's opinion and you're CC's man nigga dang and Sean Payton know that shit too man oh my god so I don't know and what I'm saying is this.

If Maurice is correct about Russell Wilson coming to Atlanta, you really CC, man, nigga. Because you going home to her town, and now you just going to be CC, man. I don't know if this is going to work. Maybe you'll play better in Atlanta where she's from. But until further notice, nigga, they benched you the last game

and they're trying to cut your contract now for $37 million. I think that Maurice Claret may have something about this Atlanta thing. No, because he don't just say shit. Mo just don't blur shit out. When he say shit, he got some knowledge about some shit, man.

But I think what Nelly was trying to say was this. Oh, here we go. Players. I'm just saying more direct way where dudes, they grow up and they dialed in on football. And if you look at the woman that he was with when he got drafted, that was him.

He was in the film room. He was focused on football. He was trying to be the best he could be. Then he got celebrity in his life and he lost center. He lost focused on football. He was trying to be the best that he could be. Then he got celebrity in his life, and he lost center. He lost center focus, and he wanted to be a celebrity football player. And all everybody's saying is like, yo, man, what he was trying to say, with all due respect, I respect your family. I respect everything else.

But if you want to get back to what Russell Wilson was at Seattle, you got to put that in its proper place. And managing that may be a thing, but, you know, when you got $100 million, I'm not sure that you can hear what other people are saying. Now, it was a countdown from the GQ spread. As soon as I saw him in GQ, I said, it's a countdown. It's a countdown because you can't tell me that that man

ever thought he would be in GQ. Never. Never, never. That, never, never. That was never his idea. I promise you. He's a ball player. He grew up playing ball. He's a ball player. He's a ball player.

He's not a celebrity. He's a ball player and a damn good one. After JD, after me, and after Mo, now you got to say what you're going to say. We've been waiting for you to say this the whole time it is what it is it is what it is okay well on that note

we're gonna go to break and when we return we will talk about Aaron Rodgers and Pat McAfee don't go anywhere you ain't no help everybody was covering

for a nigga but you I've had my statements that's why I let you tonight Everybody was covered for a nigga, but you. I had my statements. That's why I let you. Nice. She call this thing about toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe.

She tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about She wanna be free Welcome back. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Warriors will play the Bulls. Steph Curry is at 27 and a5 points. Do you have him higher

or lower? Cam? He ought to be higher because they can't fucking win without him scoring. Even when he scores, they can't win. Moral story is higher. Okay. Mace? I, of course. Any nigga with those kind of

sneakers and get 30 points, you gotta have 30 to me. Okay. Clay Thompson is at six rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace. Six assists? Rebounds and assists combined.

Yeah, he should get higher than that. Okay. Yo, Clay, they disrespecting you. Now they combining your shit to say you can't get three rebounds and three assists and six. Niggas, it's really disrespecting you at this point. They really disrespecting

you at this point. Look, and I fuck with you, Clay, but this is what they gambling on now. This shit don't bother you? You have a combined three assists and three rebounds to get over. I'm going to go over. And if you, it better be over, Clay.

It better be over. I'll tell you that right now. Because that's wild that they even, that that's even a bet. Okay. And DeMar DeRozan is at 20 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace. What you said?

DeMar DeRozan, 20 and a half points. Higher or lower? That nigga ain't getting no higher than 20 points. I'm going higher for DeMar DeRozan. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with Maurice, Nelly, and Jermaine Dupree.

Okay. So moving along, very sad situation. A Buffalo Bills fan was shot and killed while leaving a game at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens. Brody Isaacs, he was 30 years old, and his friends were walking to their vehicle when he was shot following an altercation with another driver. So first, my condolences to the family, but thoughts on the situation. I mean, that's a hell of a follow from Memphis Guns. Yeah, man, condolences and strength and blessings out to the family.

Man, I wonder what happened. I mean, I heard you explain it, but I hope it just wasn't all over somebody lost. You know what I'm saying? Now, that's wild.

I don't even know what the hell to say about it. I mean, I think that the security at these NFL games and all of these sports games,

they got to start, they got to up their speed with just like this show, right? This is a new setting for sports. And the coach is leading, right? And we be acting like niggas don't be in the crowd saying shit to the next person like this.

Like this be going on. This is, it gets violent. Right. Right. And it's a lot of that that's happening that, you know, people just don't get killed. But I feel like the security, they got to they got to get more up to speed and understand that this is really happening. Like if you if you know, if you go to one of them places like Miami, you got on a different jersey. These guys be really acting crazy. Right. You know, I was going to say the same thing, J.D.

So I'm totally 100 percent in agreeance with him. Like, even when you go to certain basketball games and they got the guys not watching the game and they're just, like, looking at the crowd. And I'm like, bro is 74 years old. If some shit goes on, he can't stop shit that's about to happen. So in agreeance with JD, they need to up security, but not just up security.

It's two things. We don't know a lot about this particular situation. And I've been in Miami for a few years. I've been gone for years, but I've been down there for a few years. And don't let the palm trees and the beach and all that shit fool you. Once you get over that bridge, that shit get a little bit sketchy if you're not from down there. It says pulling off in the car after altercation with another vehicle. So was this road rage or was this act like road rage

because you was popping shit earlier about the bills or whatever? So JD said it the best and I don't even really have too much to say after it. What I will say is this, everybody moving forward, that was a divisional game. And that was probably a lot of shit talking.

And what's going to happen moving forward the next couple of weeks, I just want everybody out there to be careful. Keep your eyes open because the playoffs are coming up. And once you lose now, there's no coming back. So fans are going to get rowdy.

People's emotions are going to be high. Keep your eyes open and be safe out there with the playoffs coming up. Especially if you're on the road going to see your team. He's back, my man. Just a last segment. Look at the way he told me to come back. Something.

Look at the glasses. Raiden. Yo, this is the last. Raiden. That is definitely Raiden. This is the last segment, Mace, but you've been choppy the whole time, bro. Look at Chi-Chi back there.

Tell Chi-Chi I said what up. What up, boy? What's good? Chi-Chi. He kill you. What's good, boy? That nigga Murda got you. I've been telling that nigga to bring you in for like pause for like three episodes.

He ain't bring you in. He bring you in when it's choppy Wi-Fi. Sucker shit. Man. Man, Killer Murda got me out here. He did what else could a nigga ask for, man?

I'm on all of these stages out here fucking these stages. Every time I leave, I get new... Listen, it's good to be out of Harlem for two minutes, niggas. It's a good look, nigga.

Yeah, man. Be thankful you're in Australia, man. You're a great nigga, man. For all of us. That's a fact. Ask him. Ask him. Since you're trying to run with his logo, you're the killer. The nigga down there

running with your logo. What the fuck going on now? A lot. A lot. Oh, on his phone. Nigga, that's family. Nigga, you know, nigga. He family now. He thought he was selling t-shirts for a minute. Oh, nigga. Oh, it's family. Nigga, you know, nigga. He family now. He thought he was out there selling T-shirts for a minute. Oh, nigga.

Oh, it's on his phone. That's all, man. Oh, nigga. Nah, Chi Chi, my nigga. No, I thought it was a lamina. No, I thought it was a lamina. Chi Chi, my nigga. He come running around.

I thought he made the diplomat lamina. I didn't know what was going on. Appreciate you. It's okay. Well, Mace, glad to have you back. Okay, as the season continues and we know

All-Star Weekend is coming February 16th, who is your favorite team out the East and the West? Simple answer. Who do you guys got? This year, I would probably,

it's still going to be the West, I think. No, we're actually, who's your pick for the finals. Oh, for the finals. Oh, and basketball. I still think it's too early to tell right now. If you need expert help, Nelly, I'm here. Okay.

All right. If I need that expertise. I think Milwaukee is still gelling. I think Boston is the team to beat, though. I think my boy Tatum, Jason Tatum, I think he, I think this is year to prove,

you know what I'm saying, that he can take the league over. This is some St. Louis shit right here, man. I know it was St. Louis shit. Light-skinned niggas from St. Louis, man. You light-skinned niggas from St. Louis, man. You light-skinned niggas from St. Louis.

You, Jason Tatum, and Bradley Bill, y'all niggas is on some hometown favoritism shit. And listen, why he ain't been getting it done? What's going on? That nigga been killing the last few years, but he won't get the job done. I know he from St. Louis. I know that shit a little bit.

It take time sometimes. It take time. You know what I'm saying? He earning his stripes. It's going to be that much better when he do it. Okay. He like a tall little Nelly. He got the waves and the lights.

He's from the U. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. He's from the same area I went to high school in and all that. You know what I mean? Him and Bradley Bill give you a lot of props, man. Yeah, man. Shout out to Bradley Bill too, man.

His family. Shout out to B. Yep. Who you got, a lot of props, man. Yeah, man. Shout out to Bradley Bill, too, man. His family. Shout out to B. Yep. Who you got, J.D. Atlanta? The Hawks. Oh, wow. He got heartache. Hey, look.

Wait, wait, listen. Hold on, hold on, listen. Hold on, listen. So, if... What's the dude that played for... What's the team? I don't know. What's wrong with your head?

I just went blank. Damn. Fuck. Maurice Woodland. What's usually... What's the top five East Coast... I mean, the East Coast teams? What you got?

New York? Milwaukee. Boston. Boston. Who else? Cleveland. No, not Cleveland. Cleveland up there.

Philadelphia. Philly. Philly good. Yeah Yeah Philly in there huh Yeah Yeah Philly in there Yeah you don't go to Philly no time Anyway I can't even We gonna be in there

That's all I'm saying You talking about the Greek freak Milwaukee Bunch I said Milwaukee Nah he said Milwaukee Him and Damien Lillard Nah dude just got hurt That um

Oh John Morant But that's Memphis Nah I'm talking about the dude who pulled a hamstring. Oh, no. Fuck, man. What's the team? The Pacers. Pacers, my bad.

Okay. Oh, Pacers. Yeah. So, Indiana. Yeah, so I saw when he got hurt. I got excited because I'm like, yo, if you know. Damn. Hey, Paul.

Yeah. Damn. Ah, Paul. Damn. Yo. Go ahead, coach. Okay, all right, listen. I'm saying, I saw that happen. I'm like, okay, look, if he's out, then the Hawks going to definitely take they space.

All roads leads back to Atlanta somehow with Jermaine Dury. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. This is. J.D. is almost like Ferris Bueller Day Off and just wake up and say Atlanta. It don't matter what it is.

Everything goes to Atlanta, man. Everything goes to Atlanta. I mean, y'all know Trey Nice, right? No, Trey Nice. Trey is nice. I'm just saying. We got a cool team. Him and Murray aren't gelling, though.

So I'm just going on. Murray was really good when he was in San Antonio. That's crazy, J. Yo, Maurice, who you got, bro? Oh, so, I'm biased. I got to say two things. The first one is,

I root for the Celtics because the Celtics brought me in a training camp and I was working with their players for a year. We're not working with them. I talked to their players and their coach had brought me out there. So, I'm biased in that regard. But I will say this, and I know the show won't end in a minute. I figured out today when you called me on the phone, I figured out why I like the show so much. Right. So this didn't even bother me. And I wanted to tell everybody. Right.

I was like, man, why do I have so much fun on this show? Why does this thing bother me that I don't know how? And when you called me, my little kid, my kids was around me. And when I see your name come on the phone, I was like, yo, what's up brother Giles? And it was more like a personal thing. And I was like, man, when you started to show out and you start talking, like we were joking, I said, man, this is the only time in my life where I'm unguarded. And what I mean by that is that like, I'm not like defensive. I'm not being no athlete. I'm not walking outside and being like guarded with somebody trying to rip me off from business. And I was like, man, it's like it's kind of crazy that it dawned on me at that moment. Then another part of this is when you were talking to JD and he was like, yo, I'm giving you your flowers.

I said, man, what y'all put together. And I'll be careful how I say this. I think like black people, we so used to like only seeing each other entertain, only seeing each other playing a sport, but we don't never get like a human side of like adult black people. And I think where somebody may want to see like other either hip hop moguls, I say like Jay and Dame or where is Ice Cube and Mac 10 get together because there's something inside of you that feel that way, I feel like I'm living in that experience. And, like, I don't know why I wanted to say that, but I did want to get it off and say it until you paused.

But I was like, man, this is why I enjoy the show so much, where it's unguarded. You know what I'm saying? And I just want to say thanks for that. You know, I'm always appreciative. But I did want to say that before I said the Celtics, or after I said the Celtics. No problem, man. We appreciate you having

on the show, man. Murda, I'll see you motherfucking tomorrow. We'll break out picks tomorrow, man. I just want to thank always, well, what's tomorrow? I'm sorry. Well, I'll see you on Monday. Thank you, Maurice, for always bringing the knowledge that you bring to the table. JD, I don't

get to see you that much. I appreciate you popping up, pause, and Nelly, you won the dance contest tonight, baby.

You definitely won the dance contest this morning, man. He definitely won. I didn't know he danced that good, Murda.

Hey, man. He was MCM with the night, baby. You know that nigga was on Dancing with the Stars, right? Okay, now.

Yeah, hell yeah. Thanks a lot, but thank you more. I appreciate you coming up, man. I appreciate you guys. Let me say something, though. Yes, sir. Sorry about that guy murder. Yeah, yeah.

I wanted to thank Nelly so much, man. He did some really good things for me and my family, as well as, like, all the inner city things I was doing. I want to tell you, Nelly, from the bottom of my heart, in front of everybody, man, you made a difference in my life. You made a difference in the people that I help. You know, when we were really just starting, you gave us 30, I think it was like $35,000 for a van.

And it brought a lot of kids back and forth from college to different things. And I really want to say I appreciate you for that. And J.D. gave me my first Dallas Killer. So JD was the first one to show me. The phone's breaking up. Say that again. I'm going to pay Bob for you to know that. Oh man, my pleasure. He said, JD, we heard about

Nelly. You could say what you have to say about JD one more time. Yeah. And JD, I want to tell you, thank you from the bottom of my heart. You were the first guy to ever pay me what I was really worth talent wise and that just go a long long way um and I I want you to know if there's ever anything I could do anything I could be a part of I'm fervent To get it to you For For just

Allowing me to Allowing me to be rich You gave me my first My brother He said allow me to be rich Gotta know that Nice Thank you guys man

Super super dope JD and Nelly It was a pleasure I was rapping Rich Already champ I appreciate you Yeah I want to congratulate And Nelly, it was a pleasure. I was rapping, Rich. Already, champ. I appreciate you, Bethany. Yeah, yeah.

I want to congratulate y'all on this, though. Because I stay in this hotel. I've been staying here for a long time. And I was telling Nelly before we came over here, I'm like, I wonder if they got, because I walked past here a couple of times, and they let some niggas in the way and like, do this the way we doing it right now. This is crazy.

Yo, real talk, that's not a crazy ass statement, because when I first came out to Vegas, and the wind was brand new, they kicked me out because I had a do-rag on. I'm telling you. You know what I'm saying? Like, they told me I had to leave. I'm like, nigga, I'm four million.

It's like, you're going to be four million without a do-rag today. I'm telling you, this is a different type of moral right here. That's the culture, man. Congratulations. Thank you, guys, man. We appreciate it. Thank you so much, man. Super dope.

Well, it was a pleasure. And Maurice, thank you for being here. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is. It is.