IT IS WHAT IT IS - NEW YORK IS ON FIRE BECAUSE OF THE KNICKS AND WOULD YOU TRADE THE #1 PICK FOR GIANNIS?

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

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Shit, I'm good. How you doing, man? Doing good, man. You went you went some real summery colors. Yeah, man. It's so spring, spring colors, man. I told you I got some new suits, man. You've been going to church. No, I haven't been going to.

I've been praying. I've been praying. I always pray, but I haven't been going to church. I've been praying. I've been praying. I always pray, but I haven't been going to church. I ain't going to say I act like I have, but I definitely pray a lot. Very thankful. Very, very thankful, man. That's a good suit to wear to church.

You say I'll be wearing my church suit. Oh, I know. I thought this would be a little loud for church. Yeah, you wouldn't get all breathed. Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't get all breathed. Look like I'm trying to steal the show. I don't wanna walk in there trying to steal the show, man.

Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Yeah. Told you Shug pushed the prices up on me, man. You said the prices? Yeah, prices is up on these Suzy Taylor made joints, man. Yeah, Shug. Baphonite is cut. Yeah, yeah. I'many, that's cut.

I'm about to say the original, boy, the men. Yeah. The suits is definitely getting five-digity. They're getting five-digity, man. Yeah, man. And I want to start by saying I'm going to have to win Nick's paraphernalia for the rest of the week. Sin told me if they win this game,

and we gonna get into the game, but he say, Maze, you gotta wear Nick's paraphernalia for the rest of the week. So the rest of the week, you know, who knows what I might come in with. Listen, man, Gad jinx it. Jinkx it. Gad.

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So May's gonna ask you first, do you stand on that? And then how do you feel about the way this game went? Ask Cam first. Just that answer, do you think they win the series, Killer? You wanna say yes. I wanna, you're absolutely right. I wanna say yes. I really wanna, I wanna say yes, I do.

I wanted him on the record because I was gonna say the same thing. I wanna say yes, I do. I wanted them on the record because I was going to say the same thing. I want to say yes. Yeah, I really want to believe this. I saw Rick Batino there, Patrick Ewing, Starberry, I mean, Amari, Stardomai, everybody was present, man. So I think this is, this might be the year, Keller.

It might be the year. The year for what? I mean, what's the win? If they get to the championship, what's the win? I told the niggas, I said this, look, if they get to the next round, it's a successful season. They haven't been to the conference finals in 25 years. They've been in the second round.

This is their third year straight that they're in the second round. So if they get to the next round, it's a successful year. What if they make it to the chip? But they don't win it, but they don't win it. But they get there. It's crazy. It's crazy.

It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. You start having high hopes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See you falling into it. Yeah, yeah. This is the shit that starts happening.

You start dreaming and imagining. Stay in the moment. Yeah. Stay in the moment. Because it's the media. It's the media of New York. If you do well in New York, then this goes for sports, this goes for music, you just seem bigger than every other place

because of the media and the way that they pick up all of the things that are going on. So I would say that I think the Knicks are gonna win. I think they're gonna win. I don't wanna say it, but since I'm gonna be wearing Nick paraphernalia, anyway, I might as well fully drinks it Thanks that I I came with the jersey because I think I said Nixon five and that's what it's looking like it's gonna be so

Yes, I did looking like it's gonna be, so. You said, Nick, yes I did. Stat, Stat, you gotta stop. I said, talk with me, murder scene, they sick of me, Nixon five. Killer, this is worse than what I be doing. I never heard that. Yeah, Nick, I seen the jersey out here, Nick, so.

That's what I said. You didn't even have the right 25 on. Pause, you had Derrick Rose. You didn't even have McHale Bridges 25 you had the old jerseys it worked clearly it's about to be Nixon because you wore the jersey that's why they won I can't make this up I'm gonna use killer voice I can't make this up this is when they can see you yeah the people can see you accepted me. Oh, wow. You see, you see.

Look, the people can see you. They've accepted me. That's all I'm going to say. They said for right now, they've accepted me. Yeah. Don't go back to Miami. Yeah, I'm doing that. It's just you and Nick fan out. No, it's just everybody versus Boston. That's the mindset as a Miami fan for me. Oh, my goodness.

What do they call you when you get the New York stat? What do they call you? What's your name when you get the New York stat? Okay. I'm just wondering. Is you feeling really New Yorkish? You wearing orange slacks? I'm seeing what you're doing.

You got blue. Yeah, I just did this cause I knew Killer was gonna have a pocket square, you know? I always wear one. Sometimes suck that you might not be able to see it. Maybe that's it. All these suits that I buy, they come with all that, man.

Ties tie when they get to me, all that, man. Y'all ready to talk about the game? Yeah, talk about the outcome of the game. Let's go there. Mase, what do you think? I'm excited for New York. I'm serious. For them to win this game, this was the game that mattered. This is the game everybody wanted to see. This is the game we was hanging the whole series on.

This is the game that really clinches the series for me. Pause, because when you think of a New York team That's always gotten to this place. This is around the place that they've already they always been let down they always been a disappointment to the city of New York and to see a Six foot guard six one guard do everything that he's done 39 points clutch baskets even the three that he hit at the end The ball was the ball was like bouncing inside of the rim That's how much luck was there that day

The ball was bouncing in the rim and it went in once that three dropped I was just like this this is the game and then you get a breakaway dunk, you know oh gee get the breakaway dunk and I could just see the excitement on people's mind and on their faces and I just wish that this continues You got the injury of Jason Tatum. That's another situation that we probably you want to talk about that later Or let's deal with it now. You can deal with it now. Yeah, with Jason Tatum, whatever's going on with him, I'm not sure if it's a torn ankle, ligament, or he twist his ankle, broke his ankle.

I don't know what it was. It's so many scary things I could think of. Because even in a hallway, you're seeing him come down the hallway in a wheelchair. Without him, they definitely lose this series. He played a phenomenal game. I think Boston even, you know, came to ball, but it just seemed like the Knicks really wanted this game.

All the parties supported. You even got Towns chipped in for about 23. And I like this. I like this New York team. I'm not going to lie to you. It remind me of teams that I grew up playing on where you got, if we ever got a big man, we thought we could win.

Because we always had the guard. So if you get a big man, you feel like, man, we could play with anybody, pause in the league. And this is what the Knicks showed me. They showed me a lot of poise down the stretch and the type of scoring that they're doing. I think there will even be a problem in the next series. I can't wait for the next series to see Indiana versus New York, a repeater last year, and let's see if they get their get back.

I'm going to tell you this suit is a pink horsepower colored suit. See how it camouflages? I meant to tell you, I told him to give me the pink horsepower. Pink peach for my suit. I meant to tell you, that's why I had it here, cause it blends. You did a good job, Shug. This is tremendous.

Just the helmet, everything. Good job, Shug. Good job, Shug. Shug a J. Look, the Knicks, they, Jlen Brunson after the last game said, we can't go down 20. And in the beginning of the game, I seen them down seven, eight, nine. I was like, okay, they can't let this get out of hand.

And they didn't let it get out of hand. And that's what really kept them alive. I'm not saying they didn't come back in other games, but I'm like, every game you can't go down 20. And they stayed in the game. This is what you get when you got a bounce score in a tackle. Let's look at the starters. Outside of Josh Hart, everybody had a double digits.

You're looking at the starting five from the Knicks. We're looking at McHale Bridges, 23 points. OG, 20 points. Back, bounced back from a terrible game where he only had two points last game. Carl Anthony Towns, 11 rebounds, 23 points. Of course Mase brought up the tremendous play of Jalen Brunch and 39 points.

He shot 14 from 25 over 50% from the field. I don't know what team he's gonna make all NBA this year, but it shouldn't be less than second team, minimum. Because I don't think they do it by positions anymore. It used to be two guards, a small forward. Because I don't think they do it by positions anymore. It used to be two guards, a small four, I don't know how they do it anymore. I think it's positionless, but if it is,

he needs to be first and second team, minimum. I don't want anything different from anybody else who's doing the voting for all NBA. But the kid is just fucking amazing. Even defensively, like I said, I've been talking about it all series long, but when you see him go out and Jason Tatum and not letting him get to the basket,

they're not used to fighting through contact. Even though Jason Tatum had an outstanding game, 42 points, we brought up the injury. It looked really, really bad because it was a non-contact injury. Usually when it's a non-contact injury like that, it's the Achilles. I'm hoping it isn't his Achilles,

because that means that he'll be out next season too. It'll take a long time for him to recover, so I'm praying that he gets back. It kind of took a little bit out of the joy for the next win, but they were down when he got hurt. They was down seven. He just jacked up a three, pause, and missed, and they won a fast break. It's

scored 18 for 4918 for 49. I'm talking about Boston three points. Yeah, you missed another 20 2030. What the fuck are y'all doing? A lot of people have been hit me including sending a few other Nick fans. I remember Nick through his fist in the air when niggas was talking about, yo, we need to get rid of Tibbs. I want Mike Malone. We need Mike Malone. We need Mike Malone.

Because they didn't want Tibbs. New York fans, some New York fans aren't happy with the way he coaches. The people after this series, and I'm not going to throw him under the bus just yet, the real person that needs to be questioned and to be looked at is Joe Mazzullo. Because my personal opinion is this, watching him, the Boston Celtics play last night, they make no adjustments offensively. They gonna live by the three, die by.

You do not have Steph Curry on that team. You don't. You don't have an old school Clay Thompson on that team. Y'all shoot good because y'all take a lot of shots throughout the regular season and it's not paying off. I don't know what your plan is going in the game talking about we just gonna keep shooting and we not gonna shoot bad every game.

Yeah. You shot bad three out of the four games that you played so far and your offense looks stagnant. If you're not shooting an open three, you're playing hero ball. Jason Taylor, one on one. Jalen Brown, one on one. What is your offense, Joe Mazzula?

You were handed down the team to see this one. I start doing my due diligence. And I start thinking about how this actually went. I'm talking about the general manager when I start thinking about this. We think about how Brad Stephen nurtured this team Yes, and he's the one who actually nurtured the team and then you say okay Danny Angel's leaving You put Brad Stevens in the front office you bring who made email could dial a witness

Doku he made guys an equal dollar You bring that nigga in. He does a sensational job, but he's inherited a team that's been nurtured from Brad Stevens. Now you sit there and get to a championship with him. He gets into the bullshit. He gets into off the court. So now he's fired. And now you bring Joe Mazzullo. Joe Mazzullula inherited mad talent that's already been through the struggle. Similar to Steve Kerr, but Steve Kerr been through as way more coaching experience than Mazzula. To me, Joe Mazzula inherited some great young talent that's been to conference finals, been to a championship, the next year they don't get to the championship,

the year after that when he from him inherited the team, they make it to the championship. And now you're getting punched in the mouth and you're not making adjustments. So it's making me question your coaching skills. You're going one-on-one every time, Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum, and then your offense, what offense are you running homeboy?

What offense are you running? Shoot the three? Yo, my nigga, I would be yanking niggas pause out the game if they kept shooting threes and we're not making threes. But that goes to show that you're not running a offense that they're comfortable running outside of shooting threes.

It is what it is. Secondly, what I take away from the Boston Celtics is this. The what makes the Boston Celtics special and. What makes the Boston Celtics special and puts them over the top is poor Zingas. And poor Zingas is sick. And we can see he's sick. He's physically sick in this phase. You know, gotta give him mad credit

for even trying to come out and play. We don't know what the illness is, but he's still coming out and playing. You can see he's physically sick. He's not finishing games. He's not getting the minutes he was getting. He's not producing like he's producing. And poor Zingas is the one that makes this Boston Celtics team special.

And if he can't be the poor Zingas he was last year or earlier in the first round this season, I mean, you're not going to... This is part of what you're seeing right here. No disrespect to Nicks because Nicks is is doing what they supposed to do too. But basically all the floors of the Boston Celtics are being exposed at the hands of the New York Knicks. Poisingis is not healthy, y'all can't get it done. Joe Mazzullo, what offense are you running? We all like to know.

Jason Taylor before the injury, Jalen Brown, y'all playing one on one. Like I said, Jason Taylor had an outstanding game, but they were still down. It wasn't like they was one point down. They were five or seven points. Mm-hmm. These are the floors of y'all being exposed right now

at the hands of the New York Knicks. Congratulations to the New York Knicks. I'm not gonna get overexcited because we know what could possibly happen when it comes to New York Knicks. But y'all are in a spectacular position. I said this last show, whoever wins this game, most likely wins the series,

and the Knicks are in the driver's seat right now. Yeah, and when it comes to, I wanna put some respect on Brunson name. I've been, you know, kinda like flaky about the Knicks, but Brunson, the last two games I saw with him, he should be up there when it comes to MVPs. The way that he's taking over the game as a six-foot guard, I mean, it's different. It's different to see somebody that small taking over the game and really putting his

imprint pause on the game is crazy. So, and I don't remember the last guard that was that good at that height probably since I have a sense. I think I have a sense with the last person I saw that was six foot that took over series like this. So, you know, shout out to him. This is a real powerful moment.

Because it shows that last year wasn't a fluke and that he's really here to make a name. I've never been shaky on none of the New York players. I'm shaky on the Knicks organization. And when you put that jersey on, it's usually just bad luck. But Jaylen Brunson actually has overcome the bad luck that comes with being a New York Knicks.

Don't want to jinx it, it's still early, but if they win another game, it absolutely has been a successful season for New York. So Jalen Brunson defeated all the odds so far. No, no, no, no. So far. We ain't ready to say that yet. Don't go there.

I'm just asking. Don't go there. I'm just asking. Okay, I just wanted to know. Which really interesting to me, to be totally honest, and I know we're probably gonna get into it in a minute, is who's gonna win out of this trade

between New York and Minnesota? Because we see Minnesota playing good, and then, you know, Steph Curry's not playing, so we don't know what's gonna happen, but we see them playing good, and we see the Knicks playing good. So I really wanna see who's gonna be the winner out of this trade. And right now, they're both on pace to go to the next round.

Right. That would be amazing to see them in a chip against each other. That would be- That'd be hot. Cuz Randall wanna prove that he was the better trade than Townes. Townes wanna prove that he's on a better team and it's in the market he wanted to be in. And Devin Chinzo want to prove something.

So this is great. He want to prove to Mikel that I should still be on that team. This is a good series to think about. For sure. That's a crazy storyline, but also so is this. So the Mavs secured the number one pick in the 2025 NBA draft, ultimately setting them up to receive Cooper flag. So given the crazy season that they have, they've had, people are obviously saying like,

Oh, the NBA is great. There's no way. Yeah. That's crazy. You're saying the NBA is Rick. So what are your thoughts on them having the number one pick? And then does it seem like everything that happened to them this season was worth it? um

actually, I Think is wonderful that Dallas, you know because I get to go back to Dallas You know I get to go back to Dallas and watch the games front row. I didn't say it was my team I said I get to go back to Dallas and watch the games front row. I didn't say it was my team. I said I get to go back to Dallas. I actually have have the plug and the Mavericks. So definitely I'm looking forward to that. And then we'll be more crazy if Luca goes back and they get rid of Nico and now they got Anthony Davis, Cooper flag, Ky Kyrie and Luka would be, they would get a championship and my boy Clay cut his hair.

So who knows the old Clay might be back. I'm hoping the haircut got some symbolization to it. And then daddy turns into the play used to be, at least a glimpse of it. It would be great for the Dallas Mavericks. They will love it. I'm not one big on conspiracy theories. I'm not one of them type people and all this shit.

But this is wild. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not really big on, oh, this is conspiracy. They say shit up this, that, that. But this is kinda wild. I'm not gonna lie. You know why? Because I have a friend that lives in Dallas,

a friend of mine, and she's telling me this, this is probably 10 years ago, a long time ago, and I know we got Dak Prescott now, but they were really big. A lot of black people, I can't say a lot, the black people I knew used to be like, this city don't want nobody but white stars. If it ain't a white star, this, that, there.

Look at Tony Romo, he ain't just a Tony Romo. He ain't shit and da, da, da, da, da. And Doug Novinsky and da, da, da, da, da, da. They weren't white stars. And when I seen Dallas get the number one pick, that's all I could think about. Was when she told me that shit. And she said, all right, cool.

We got Anthony Davis, we got Reed Irving, but where's the white at? There's just no white. And now you got white. Not just white, you got American white now. You got American cheese. You know, you got Dirk Nowitzki who's from Germany, and then of course, Lucas overseas,

and those two white superstars. But now you got a homegrown white superstar. So I was kind of mad. You know, my team is dispersed. We got the second pick. I was looking at it like, nigga, if we get this none, cause it was us and Dallas the last pick.

And I was like, damn, if we get this, Wemby Fox and Cooper, it would have been smoking. But I ain't gonna lie, Dallas looked like they back. We'll see what happens, man, because one thing that we do know about Cooper is that he performed really well, and I know it was only practices and scrimmages against the Olympic team, but he performed of the best of the best American basketball players that we had.

When they was talking about him last summer when he was practicing with the Olympic team, how he was the best player on the court. You know, when you're talking about Karen Duran and LeBron James and stuff, Curry and Anthony Edwards, so on and so forth. I'm not saying they were playing full speed, but that's all the biggest talk was before the Olympics start, was Cooper.

So he was there tonight, I seen his face. He said he was excited. He was just looking, but he knew he was there tonight. I seen his face. They was, he said he was excited. He was just looking, but he knew he knew he's number one because he was in the building. The craziest shit about tonight though, with the lottery, pardon me, last night with the lottery was that they had Zion there representing the Pelicans. And I said, Zion really going to still be here with the Pelicans? Why would y'all send him to be the representative for the Pelicans? He ain't play.

Zion got about six games with the Pelicans his whole career. He been there six years and played 12 games. Of course I'm exaggerating, but I'm just saying. I wouldn't have sent Zion. I don't think Zion's there. I don't think he's gonna be there, but he was there. He was a good sport. I don't think Zion's there. I don't think he's going to be there. But he was there. He was a good sport. I don't really have too much to say. And like I said, I don't want to dig into the conspiracy thing.

But Dallas, I got another white superstar, potential superstar back in the city. It didn't even take long. It was like about three months. I didn't have one. And now you got one. But I know one thing that nigga Nico Nico is like, woo, thank God. Nico was out. Nico like, oh my God, thank you.

He a nigga need to come to church someday. Yeah, Nico need to send an offering. Yeah, he definitely need to send it because that's like, woo. The fans that was angry, they might be like this right now, like, all right, we can live with that. You know, a might be like this right now, like, all right, we can live with that. You know, a little answer like, we'll see what happens,

but we can live with that. You off the hook for now. Yeah, you off the hook for now. That's a great way to, you off the hook for now, nigga. Yeah, I was thinking about it. If Cooper Flag would have went to the Spurs, who team would it be, you know? And that's something that probably

NBA probably thought about they said now I give it to Dallas because if you if you're the number one pick and the guy Before you was the number one pick it becomes a clash of whose team it is because everybody would think Wimby But if I'm the number one pick I want to go somewhere where it's gonna be my team and even with Dallas They're they're they're older stars, but they're gonna have to act like it's going to be my team. And even with Dallas, they're older stars, but they're going to have to act like it's his team. Yeah. I just wanted to add for Dallas, it's not even just on the NBA side, also the WNBA side too, because they got Paige, so they have a lot of good young superstars there. But one thing for you that's actually pretty exciting for Spurs fans, so obviously they had the second pick, so obviously they had the

second pick. The third pick is the Sixers and the fourth is the Hornets. Basically for the first time in his career, Yannis explained that he's open-minded about exploring whether his best long-term fit is remaining in Milwaukee or playing elsewhere. So with the Spurs having the second pick, they have a lot of tools to kind of work around to kind of get that. So Mase can let you go first. Is that something that you could see happening?

Yannis on the Spurs? That would, if you put Yannis on the Spurs, my goodness. Him and Wimby would be a nightmare for the NBA just with them two alone. Would you trade Fox? I really like Fox, but for your honest. I would have to part ways with I would have to part ways with Fox Fox. And then you would have to give up the shooting guard.

And these are great guys in the future. These are these are guys, castles that that's really going to make a difference in the future. These are these are guys castles that that's really gonna make a difference in the league. So you will be giving up some talent there. When you talk about those two foreigners being on the same team on a basketball team such as San Antonio that man that will be amazing. That'll be amazing. I would have to do it. I would have to do it Paul's killer you you would take your honest on on on the Spurs or Darren Fox Castle and the other guy. Yeah, absolutely a hundred percent future picks

Absolutely, but it's about Milwaukee with Milwaukee want that but you have to, if I'm a GM of the Milwaukee Bucks, I'm sitting there saying that I have to have something to give back. You're potentially thinking about or hearing about that my superstar, how old is y'all, is 28, 29 maybe? Superstar, global superstar doesn't want to be here. I'm getting everything I can get.'t want to be here. I'm getting everything I can get. That may not be enough.

And we know his contract's not up, but you don't want to disgruntle an unhappy player not playing. We see what Yonis did in these playoffs. His numbers were spectacular. He's like, what more can I do? Players are hurt year after year. I'm trying to make sure that I'm healthy.

He got hurt last year. You're bringing in Doc Rivers in the middle of the season. Milwaukee Bucks, not saying they look dysfunctional, they're just not looking stable as an organization right now. And it's not necessarily their fault. They're trying to get it done. They try and bring in a Kyle Kuzma for Chris Middleton. That didn't work out.

You try and bring in a Damian Lillard and get rid of Drew Holliday, that didn't necessarily work out. You get rid of Greek Freaks Breveld. We don't know what you're doing with Bobby Porter. Look, they look real dysfunctional. And Yannis is probably sick of it. And he's doing what James Hart and them do. This is really like a nice way to say, trade me.

When niggas be like, yo. I'm open to it, Paul. Ask me, tell you to ask them the question. Ask me if I'll be open to leaving Milwaukee. Are you open to leaving Milwaukee? Yeah, I'm open to it. That's how it starts. That's how it starts.

And that way you start hearing the mumblings and then niggas from Milwaukee organization hear that pit call, you're honest. the sender on the voicemail. Look, that's the way it is, to be honest with you, I heard Yonis just bought a house in New York in South Hampton. Think about that. Think about what the Knicks may give up

depending on how this series goes right now or the rest of their season, what you would give up for Yonis to play in New York. Imagine Yonis in New York. You know, what's gonna happen is the next month, weeks and months to come is a lot of speculation. I'm not gonna get excited about him coming to the Spurs. I would love him on our team.

But it's gonna be a bunch of teams in there. They were talking about before Dallas got it, would you give up your number one pick to get Yannis? So basically not saying that this would happen, but think about this. Think about if you sit there and say, but if you're the Dallas Mavericks and you're doing business with the Milwaukee Bucks

and you sit there and tell them Milwaukee Bucks, I'll give you the number one pick for Yannis. Now Milwaukee may wanna fuck with that because you have a potential superstar to build around if you get Cooper. Yeah. But imagine Milwaukee, imagine Yanis right now on Dallas with Kyrie, with Anthony Davis. That's a potential very, very, very big problem.

So they won't have their white boy superstar. Yeah, but if you're trying to win now, you can win now. Who would you rather have now, Yannis or Cooper? No, I know Yannis. I was just saying. I know what you're saying in a race situation, but I'm saying- He could be back.

But I'm saying this. If I- He could pull that off, he'll be back. If I'm the Dallas Mavericks, this is something to really consider. Now, like you said, you wanna build for your future. So getting rid of Luca and getting Cooper flag is like, good, this is what we gonna build on for your future. So getting rid of Luka and getting Cooper, Cooper flag is like, good,

this is what we gonna build on for the future, we got it. But then they also be pumping, we traded Luka because we're trying to win now. So if you're trying to win now, and you got the number one pick and you not worrying about building around a nigga in four, five, six years. Uber flag and clay.

What would you do? I'm asking you, I'm not even talking about that. What would you do, asking you? If you're the Dallas Mavericks, and you say, yo, Milwaukee Bucks call you and be like, yo, give me that number one pick, you got Greek freak. What are you doing today?

Cooper's out of there. I don't know what he gonna be. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know what I'm getting at. I think he gonna be great. I do think he gonna be great, but this is more proven right now. You play Yarny's with Kyrie and Anthony Davis.

You know, steamroll through the West. I was just about to say it's almost, and I ain't gonna necessarily say it's almost, if they get a, if Clay, if Clay showed his face, pause, you're almost looking at a golden state when KD was there. You're almost looking at a golden state when KD was there. You're almost looking at that potential situation. So I may do that if I'm Dallas. I may be on the phone with Milwaukee saying. What y'all thinking?

Yeah, you know, you got some money next 10, 12 years. Talk to me. Yeah, that's something to really think about. And it's off the table. Yeah. So aside from the Spurs or the Mavs and say he doesn't stay with the Bucks, what team do you guys think would be a good fit for him? Just hypothetically speaking.

Um, hypothetically, who knows the Lakers may have some money for them. You know, the Lakers, it just seemed like they could do anything, you know, forget the cap space, forget all that. When they come to the Lakers it just seemed like they could do anything You know forget the cap space forget all that when they come to the Lakers. I would love to see Luca and I'm in Yonis in LA if that was any way possible I know it's a real far-fetched thing But when you think of a talent like that iconic talent you want that talent to be in a big market. And Yannis talent belongs in a big market.

It's kind of underserviced in a small market. If you could get him in LA or you could get him at Golden State, that would be another place. You know, because right now they got a new GM at Golden State. He might not really want to keep talking to Draymond and all of them. He might be ready to make a move. And I think with the way that a lot of these other players have played in Golden State,

they have some assets they could put with it. They get Giannis at Golden State because they got a pair of Stephen Curry with somebody that's going to really get it done in order to be a formidable opponent out of the West because it's not just your good team. Everybody then got better. So yes, Stephen Curry is still who he is, but everybody is getting better. And then everybody gets a new player next year. Minnesota is going to be even tougher next year when their guard play get older.

So I would like to see them at LA. I would like to see them in Golden State somewhere in California. Yeah, you're right. And listen, Steph Curry is on the record saying he's not playing in Golden State without Draymond Green, but only niggas, two niggas with no trade clauses is Bradley Bill and LeBron James. I don't know where he's going to play. That's going to be speculation for the rest of off season, that season. The thing about it is this, is what niggas is willing to give up and not just willing

to give up, do niggas do more work he want with you, which you have. So we can sit there and speculate, oh, he's going to be good on this thing, they're on that team. But how's he going to be good if this thing, they're on that team. But how's he gonna be good if they're giving up somebody good as well? I don't wanna play this game and be guessing where he gonna be good at because we don't know where somebody's willing

to give up for him. Let's say for instance, niggas talking all this, he come to New York, he just bought a house in the Hamptons, yada, yada, yada, yada. The Knicks potentially go to the Eastern Conference Championship

or a championship. Do you really want to break this core up as good as Yarnis is? They didn't even make it to the next round. Do you want to break up a team and say, okay, we'll give you Mikael Bridges and XYZ and look, if they already want you going to Eastern Conference Championship and potentially a championship, I'm not breaking up chemistry for a superstar. Sometimes superstars don't equal chemistry. So we'll sit here and speculate all off season

where he could potentially go and where he could potentially be. But that's all is gonna be speculation because what is a team willing to give up to get him? Pat Riley will give up Bam and Tyler Hero for Giannis. You get Tyler Hero and Bam and whatever else they need, bring them to Miami because it's a location people want to be at. Then, you know, Kevin Durant is on the move.

So now you put them two in Miami, you got a whole different team. People will go and play with them for the league minimum. And you can turn this team around in one move. Pat Riley, get on it. The whole thing about it is, that's my point. Milwaukee made me unreasonable. They be like, no, what else you got? Your wife available?

Send her with the niggas. This is what I'm trying to tell you is that you don't know what Milwaukee is. And Eric supposed you're with them. Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. That's why in the two-ferry too, I left some money in the mouth of them. Milwaukee may be mad and reasonable and be like, yo, what else you got?

Because this isn't a regular player that doesn't want to be there anymore. Right. That's all I was just going to say. We're just going to have to continue to speculate because we don't know, but these are good options. So we'll see what happens. we're just gonna have to continue to speculate because we don't know but these are good options So we'll see what happens. We're gonna go to break when we return We will get into the Warriors versus the Timberwolves. Don't go anywhere Welcome back. So the Timberwolves beat the Warriors 117 to 110. Mace, how did you feel

about the performance on the Timberwolves side? Well, actually, we knew this was a foregone conclusion. We know Stephen Curry that we will be looking at an exit of My team the Golden State Warriors, right? One of my teams, you know since you guys want to put me up there with all the other teams I Didn't think they stood a chance. It was great what I was able to see Buddy Hill doing the first couple of games, but I didn't expect that the last the whole series I expect you know you always get great bench players to come in and Pretty much he start now to to win us a game in the series, but never to win the whole series

He didn't have enough firepower to take over the series and Ant-Man just looks like he's on a mission He's I mean from the very Second game that we saw it just looked like he was there to take over this game and looked like he's gonna add Stephen Curry's Stone to the rest of the Thanos glove, you know, he got LeBron now He got um, who else he was able to beat? Kevin Durant one year. Now he's putting Stephen Curry there. Now he gotta go forward and win it all.

I'm looking for them to beat Golden State and that's just what I have to say for now. I'll speak more after killer speed. To be honest with you, last game that Golden State played against Minnesota, I thought that Golden State had a chance last night. Last game, game three, I believe it was, they looked really good without Steph Curry. It was close the whole game.

They were actually winning and then Minnesota pulled away to end up winning this game. So going into the game last night, I was saying, these niggas could win. They're at home. Jimmy Butler looked like he needed, like he figured out what he needed to do without Steph Curry. I think he finished with 33 the previous game. And I said, they're going to have a chance to possibly win.

And they were in the game until the fourth quarter. Then the fourth quarter hit, the Ant-Man turned the Ant-Man in the second half. He did what superstars are supposed to do, put the team on his back, and they bust ass. That's what happened. Not only that, Julius Randall had a tremendous first half. I believe he had 19 in the first half,

if I'm not mistaken, something like that. But he is another difference maker. We sit there and think about power forwards in the NBA, and I sit there and say about power forwards in the NBA and I sit there and say, it's really like a positionless game. It's not a lot of old school power forwards where we used to see like maybe Anthony Mason

or Charles Oakley or Lambert play like forward and center. But I'm just saying traditional, Charles Barkley, Carl Malone, traditional power forwards. And Julius Randall, even though he could bring the ball up and shoot the three, he's big, pause, he's strong, and he gets on the box and can finish. And he was the real difference. And to me, he's going to have to be the difference in this series of what I'm going on. When Ant-Man is getting doubled in triple team, he has to go turn into, this is my team,

finished with 31 points and he killed the first half and Ant-Man came back in the second half and did what he had to do. Draymond's strong, Draymond's a great defender, but he even at times looks a little small trying to guard Julius Randall. And we see him defend bigger people than Julius Randall. Last series with Sagoon. we see him defend bigger people than Julius Randall.

Last series with Sagoon. So it isn't like he can't do it, but Julius Randall, when he's in his bag, he's in his bag. And he's gonna be the difference. It wasn't just Randall though. We had Rudy Gobert. He was Rudy Gobert. He didn't do nothing too much extra. But you got, even though he had eight points,

he's a presence talking about Jaden McDaniels. And what I wanted to ask you two mates, let me ask you this before I finish talking about it. Who would you rather have today as a point guard? Today, I'm talking about today. Chris Paul or Mike Conley? On this team, I would- No, just're a team, you're starting a team, you have to pick one of them. Who would you want as your point guard on Mason's team tomorrow if you had to turn him?

I know we joke a lot about Chris Paul, but I would go with Chris Paul. Yeah, I'm taking Mike Conley. I like Mike Conley today. I'm not saying he had a better career than Chris Paul. I'm not saying... You're talking about at the age they are now. If you had a team that y'all play tomorrow. Oh yeah, it's Mike Conley, but if you're talking about both of them in their prime,

I'm going with Chris Paul. I was clear with the question. If you have a game tomorrow on Mason All-Stars, and you had these two players to pick. I'm gonna stay with Chris Paul. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I'm not, I don't think it's. The conversation.

I don't think it's a bad choice, even one. I'm just was wondering. Because to me, Chris Paul sometimes oversteps and it annoys niggas. And sometimes he's one of them niggas. Yo, listen man, if you was, he been doing that since, he been an old man since he been young, coaching. And I think Mike Conley is a great point guard.

He's 37 years old, plays his position and knows how to deal with the talent on the team. Like for instance, the reason I asked you that question, now let's go back to if you put Chris Paul on this Minnesota Timberwolves team and take Mike Conley off. Ant-Man probably would have cursed Chris Paul out about 25 times by now like, yo, hey, old

school, leave me the fuck alone, let me do what I got to do. Yeah, he'd be calling them all kind of names. Yeah, exactly, to where Mike Conley knows how to deal, to me, and this is from the outside, look at this, knows how to deal with the superstar on this team, knows how to give him the ball when it needs to be, knows how to not overstep and talk when it's time to talk. And sometimes Chris Paul give me those overstepping vibes,

even though I think he had a better career than Mike Conley, but I was just talking about today, when I'm looking at small, we're talking about small guards. And I thought about that, I'm like, Chris Paul might just fuck this whole situation up if he was in a different position from, if he was at Mike Conley's shoes. But yeah, Mike Conley contributed. And Golden State, like I said, I thought they had a chance,

but Jimmy Butler didn't show up. You're not gonna win it with with Jimmy Butler with 14 points. You're not going to win with him not being a superstar. Last game they were close because they had 33 points. Ant-Man ended up having 36, but he had 33. You're not going to cut it with a 14 points from Jimmy Butler. You want Jonathan Kamiga to come in, and he did great. He's done an exceptional, especially for not playing

in the series before this. I think that he stepped up and has been doing the best that he could do since, especially coming off the bench. I think he's been the last player for, the best player for Golden State the last two games, even with Jimmy Butler scoring 33. But this isn't gonna cut it. And I was hoping that they would win this game

because you would get more rest for Steph Curry. But they're saying he's gonna be a game time decision after he gets, I ain't gonna say game time decision. He is reevaluated Wednesday. And I don't give a fuck what that evaluation say. I think Steph Curry comes back Wednesday. I hope that he's not gonna rush back and we see him hobbling,

but I don't think you win this next game without Steph Curry the way that they looked last night. Yeah, and like you said, Jimmy Butler can't be getting one point higher than Buddy Hill in this kind of game that you're expecting him to take over. And I know last game we were saying, we think he may have figured out what he need to do to be the man on this team while Stephen

Curry is not there. And I also want to say before we move on, because I didn't have the chance to say this about the Knicks also, about Kat with his hand. Was his hand broke? Did we find out what's up with his hand? Is he sure? They didn't say. Yeah.

I mean, he played with it. So shout out to him too for coming back. You know, that's the New York spirit That's what we expected to see that you play even when you hurt Okay, so another series tonight Denver versus okc So underdog has yokich at 27 and a half points to have higher lower mace 27 mm-hmm, but yokich I'm going high. I think this is the game yokich got a breakout man for real or Mace? 27? Mm-hmm. But Jokic? I'm going high.

I think this is the game Jokic gotta break out, man, for real. He got to, he got to. Go back to the old Joker. Okay. Yeah, I agree with Mace. I think that he's, hasn't been playing well in this series, but to me, what's going on is that what I thought would be happening early in the season,

the brutal seven game series that they had against the Clippers, the fatigue is starting to come in now. We're seeing the Joker get tired. We're seeing him not shoot over 40% for the first time in a three game span this season. I think that those games are wearing on him. And I said this before, I'm like, yo, I thought they were going to get smacked the first game

when they played OKC because it was a grueling seven game series, but they didn't. They played a good second game, but I think the wear and tear is starting to get the joker, but he's a warrior. He'll come out. And I think you have higher than that. OK, Westbrook is at 17 and a half points, rebounds and assist. You have a higher lower camp.

I don't know, man. We don't know what we're getting for Westbrook. And I like I said, I love Westbrook. We just don't know what we're going to get, man. We have 17 and a half. I have no idea, man. Because he could go for 18 points and then he could go 0 for 11. And then I see what they did in that last game, game before last, when Michael Porter

Jr. played Russ Westbrook, they didn't get the minutes that he usually got because Michael Porter Jr. played well. I'm going to go lower. Points rebounds on this list? Yeah. Give me higher, my bad. I thought it was just points. I'm gonna go lower. Points, rebounds, and assists? Yeah. Give me higher, my bad. I thought it was just points.

We have a higher for all that. Points, rebounds, and assists. I'm going lower, boy. Okay, and Chet is at 11 and a half rebounds and assists. Do you have them higher, lower, or mace? Hmm, that's actually a good one. 11? Mm-hmm, 11 and a half.

Just rebounds and assists. Oh, rebounds and, he ain't gonna have no assists. Let me see, he gonna have 11 or he's not. And I'm going, he's gonna have that higher. Yeah, I'm going higher as well. Okay, make sure y'all download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So just kind of in reflection, right?

So after the Timberwolves win versus the Warriors, now three out of the four series in the conference semifinals have a three to one lead exception being the tied OKC versus nuggets series. So just in general Mase, what do you think has been the most entertaining series to watch out of the three? The most entertaining series for me has definitely, I think the up and down entertainment has been the Knicks. The Knicks in Boston. Because it just seemed like every game something new is a new storyline.

It's like, oh they up, they up, you know, 2-0. Now they come back and pause, get blown out. Then you come back, Jason Tatum may be out for the whole series. Every game has been something very dramatic. But the team that I think is playing the best right now, I know you didn't ask this, maybe the Indiana Pacers. Indiana Pacers look really strong as a team, they look like they're jelling. And as a championship team, as a person that know champions, they look like a championship team.

I'm not saying they're gonna win it, but they're showing all the signs of a championship team. Yeah, I have to agree that the Knicks, Boston Celtics series is the most entertaining because you have two 20 point comeback victories from the Knicks Boston Celtics series is the most entertaining because you have two 20 point comeback victories from the Knicks. So even when the Knicks was down 20 in game three or game four, whatever game it was,

when they were down 20, the game that bought, the one game that Boston didn't win, and they're down 20 and 30, you're sitting there compelled to watch the whole game because you're like, this shit ain't over. They came back from 20 two times already. So they didn't come back that game, but you're sitting there saying that even a 20 point lead

in this series is not safe. So you sit there and tend to watch, especially when you did it twice. So to me, that's definitely the most entertaining series that we have so far. Outside of, you know, OKC and Denver, they've been in dogfights as well, if we're talking about the West Coast as well.

But I think there's, if we're talking entertainment, they're right behind Paws, the Knicks and Boston. Okay, and then do you agree with Mace, with the Pacers being the best team, or do you think another team? I don't know if they're the best team, but they look the best. They look really good.

They look like they know each other, they're gel, nobody's on no superstarship. You're not expecting them hard to go for 50. Even like, you know, you sit there and you see Halliburton hitting these big shots and making amazing plays and so on. Then you go to the basketball, you be like, yeah, 19? His 19, he seemed like 37.

It's a well-balanced attack when it comes to the Pacers. And what we ought to realize with the Pacers too, we're not paying attention, and I'm not saying everybody, but I'm just saying to the casual fan, you're not paying attention that their coach is Rick Carlisle. Rick Carlisle actually won a championship with the Dallas Mavericks. There's speculation the reason he left Dallas Mavericks

because of him and Luca were bumping heads. And they left amicably and said, look, Rick Carlisle wants to leave and we're gonna, you know, basically one of them bullshit fucking media lines saying that it was mutual understanding. Nah, why the fuck would you want your coach to win a championship for your organization,

the only one that you have to leave? And him and Luca wasn't getting along from what they were saying. And now, I'm pretty sure he has a point to prove it. He's kind of been under the radar because Indiana isn't in a big market. But he's in a situation where he wants to win. You have to think about this,

because Indiana were not paying attention to it But they were in the conference finals last year So for them to get back to the conference finals this year Isn't really a big deal to me because they were in the conference finals last year. They lost the Boston They actually set the Knicks home last year and the second round same thing. Like we always talk about Udoca you may know Even doca situation because it was high profile. It was Nia Long involved.

It was the Boston Celtics this down the third. But we're talking about coaches that want to get back and show niggas that y'all got rid of me for the wrong reason. Rick Carlisle is probably at the top of the list out of all the coaches. Okay. And then last thing before we wrap. So Michael Jordan will be joining the NBA on NBC and Peacock as a special Contributor Mase, how do you see this going? And are you surprised that he accepted this role? What is he doing there? Commentating and stuff. So he's gonna be a special contributor during the upcoming season

That might be really interesting I know nobody can challenge what Mike would say pretty much. Not that they can't challenge it, but he would be credible to say the most outlandish thing. You just got to sit there. It's different when it's like Charles speaking and then you got Ernie, then you got Kenny and we love those guys. Shaq, everybody, Stephen, they just all type of people. But when you think about Michael Jordan himself sitting there,

I would love to see him and LeBron sit there. I think that would be a crazy conversation. So if you're spending the bucks to bring MJ there, bring King James there and let them both sit there. That will be a conversation the world would love to hear their commentate Terry on the game. When I read this I didn't hear about him commentating. It says special contributor. It says he's gonna be commentating. It says not disclose details regarding his specific role but it'll be a special contributor,

which I'm assuming it's commentating and things. Exactly. You're assuming. See, that's why you have Mace. Mace has to figure it. That's why you have to ask questions, Mace. You gotta ask specific questions. Hey, she always does this.

No, I do not. She just told you. A special contributor? You can't agree with Mace that Indiana is the best thing. I did not say Indiana was the best thing. I'm just saying. That's why I'm clear when I talk. I'm assuming it can be writing,

it can be commentating. I'm assuming commentating. I'm not gonna say it's gonna be ad commentating. It can be contributing and he putting some money and be like, have mine when the night over. You don't know what contributing is. They could be like, yo, my contribution is just 200 million. How much we gonna get at the end of the game?

Yeah, Stat, you got a journalism idea. I am, but I really doubt it's just money contributions because they wouldn't have explained it that way. I'm assuming, but yes. Yeah, you'd be wild, Stat. Stat's saying she's assuming it's commentating. The whole thing about it is, yeah, that's why I ask questions, because they're not saying,

it's not like a role. This is some private Michael Jordan shit. What is a special contributor anyway? You never heard that before, nowhere. Not even to you. Yo, he's a special contributor. There's some secret Michael Jordan shit that we always know we can't afford to know,

and it's not our tax bracket. We're not gonna ever know we don't, we can't afford to know, and it's not our tax bracket. We're not gonna ever know what a secret, or my bad, special contributor to this NBA coverage. Yeah, that's why people be saying, what is Mase talking about, Steph? I don't think that's why. I'm gonna tell you that. I don't think that's why.

What is Mase talking about? Steph, he set me up, Steph. Every time you ask me, I will give specific quotes. But yeah, special contributor, I'm going to assume it's going to have to do with commentating on television. What is Mase talking about? I'm going to just start typing under there. This is what Stata's asking me. I'm answering blind questions.

The whole thing about it is you don't know what this means when you read it because you can sit there and say, it's the Michael Jordan logo or something. You watch these games, it be Michael Jordan logos or shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Nick jerseys as well.

Yeah, the most disrespectful shit when Mike was laughing when they on the piston jerseys. That's the most disrespectful shit ever to have. The Michael Jordan logo. You call it like, send it to Isaiah. You see something on his jersey? Exactly, send it to Isaiah, 100%. I don't know.

Lord Z Gang don't like that. Yeah, Lord Z Gang don't like that. I know he was disgusted when he seen them piston jerseys with the Michael Jordan logo on it. Congrats, man. I don't know what he's doing, so I can't really talk about it too much, but I know that Mike is

not stupid. He probably is a great investor. I have no idea. I don't know what to say because I don't know. I read this earlier and was trying to do some homework on it. But I didn't know what a special contributor was. Congrats, I guess. Okay, if he was commentating, what would you like to see from him? The thing about it is I know Mike ain't commentating. Mike ain't got time for that shit.

Mike ain't doing no commenting. I know for a fact Mike ain't commenting. Because Mike is too cruel. He know it. He ain't gonna commentate my nigga. The whole game would be worse than the critiques we do up here. You know what I'm saying? It'd be ridiculous.

And you won't be able to say nothing. Yeah, exactly. That's so important. You can refute us, Mike, get up there and say, you know what? Trash. Yep, that be that. I don't know, I mean. Viral.

I would love to hear Mike commentate, but is it realistic? I doubt it. Yeah, you heard Mike go join Take On Angel Reese, and they did not like that. Yeah, his takes are harsh but I mean that's what makes him Mike and I think that that's what people want to see personally. I would like to see it. I disagree with you as far as loving to see it. Mike really showing up to

commentate. Mike don't seem like he got that personality to commit to that. You know, that's a commitment. Like we see Tom Brady over Tony Romo and all them announcing these games. It's a commitment to do that. Mike looked like he liked to get high and drive his dirt bikes and go over his motorcycles and do what he wanna do.

Like having to be somewhere every week or every day and you live a lifestyle. Like even, let me be honest with you, I love being up here with Mason, you guys, everything, but in the beginning, it was tough, cause I'm like, I do what I want on whatever time I wanna do it. Yeah, I don't have to be nowhere

at no certain time every day for like 30 years. Last time I had to be somewhere, and had to be there, was class in Navarro College, and cause I had to be somewhere and had to be there was class in Navarro College, because I had to be class. I didn't have to be nowhere at a certain time for 30 years. So it was an adjustment for me to have to be on time. And I love being here. And I think it's great,

because I get to hang out with Stanton because my brother, we ain't hang out in 10, 15 years. So it was great. But I'm just saying as a grown man, I didn't have to be nowhere. They can tell me to be somewhere, I'll get there when I get there. Fuck you talking about be there.

That's just so funny the way you explain it, cause that's just like people's everyday lives, like, you know, like clocking in, going to class, like that's been my entire life. Yeah, no, I get it, man, 100%. I ain't even, like I said, and I always, that's why I said, I pray I don't go to church, but I pray I don't have to be in this position.

I'm very blessed. I'm very thankful. Yeah, when me and Ken was on the phone one time, he overheard my wife. She said, how is it going? Going back this week? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, because, look, we first did this. You know cause, look, when we first did this, you know how many, when we first started this show, you know how many times I'm like, Mace, you coming? Pause. You coming? Cause we was shooting in Miami, he didn't live there. He's like, I'm coming.

I'm like, and if he'd be late, I'd be like, I knew it. I knew it wasn't last. I already knew that it doesn't, Mace is not sticking around for this. So yeah, he was actually, Mace was telling me what his wife was saying some day like, this must be I, this the longest you stayed to do anything for this long.

And actually still doing, yo, it was a, every time we shot, I was like, this nigga's not coming for us. Cause I, this nigga don't, same thing I'm saying. Like, oh, I ain't got time this week. I ain't doing it. Well, definitely a lot of blessings. Love being up here with y'all as well.

But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!