IT IS WHAT IT IS - NFL WEEK 12 SUNDAY COUNTDOWN & ANTMAN SAYING HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL IS WILD | IIWII EP#54

Episode Date: November 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to $100 dollars and you get a special pick when you sign up i'm treasure wilson aka sat baby along with your host mace and cam what's up killer how you doing man i'm doing great good you look great man see you on a sunday morning man yeah man praise the lord
Starting point is 00:01:06 how you doing stat i'm doing great i have a lot of leftovers ready to eat the rest of them until i can but it was a good week yeah that was great i'm sure that should go, today is the day to go out, yo. It's the last, no, today's the last day. You can't do Sunday as you're tripping. You gotta go, plaz, put up a schedule for that shit. Today is you tripping.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He said on Monday, he said Monday to hospital. Next Tuesday you die. Today, you tripping. I'm dead. Okay, well, it's week 12 of football season. Very exciting. So let's start with some important games happening this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:02:01 So first, let's start with the Chiefs versus the Raiders. Who do you see winning? Well, you know, I got to go. I got to go with Titletown. You know, we got to get this game back. And since we lost that heartbreaker to the Eagles, we got to win today. We can't fall behind because we got to be able to win the playoffs and everything like that and have a good season in the playoffs. What about you, Killer? I know you're going to say something about the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:02:35 No, listen, Chiefs are still, to me, a top three football team in the league right now. But the Raiders, since they got their new coach, have been playing good. They lost last week, but they're still looking really good. The Chiefs are coming off a loss. It'll be a real interesting game because it's an in-division game at the same time.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The Chiefs really do need to win this. That's a great point you made to make sure they get good seeding in the playoffs. But the Raiders haven't looked half bad since they had their new coach. It's going to be an interesting game. I'm going to go with the Chiefs, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders haven't looked half bad since they had their new coach. So it's going to be an interesting game. I'm going to go with the Chiefs. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders pulled off the upset.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. So tell us, Swift, when you're watching this, go to the game. We need this Swiftie magic pause to win this game. She ain't fear they don't win. Yeah, when Kelsey is acting weird these days. Listen, they had a whole thing on that. I forget who did the stat sheet, the yards, the touchdowns, et cetera, of when she's there and when she's not there for Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And the fucking numbers was kind of crazy. The analytics for his football play is wild when she's there. We make jokes and shit, but I don't know. He may want to make sure she's there. His numbers are way higher when she's there. Yeah, she's like his blanket.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Who was that in Charlie Brown and one of them? He need his blanket. Linus. Linus. Linus. Charlie Brown is old as fuck, bro. You gotta bring that face back when I said Charlie Brown. She said you didn't look like, what is that?
Starting point is 00:04:27 No niggas ain't go back. I think I know what you're talking about. I hope you ain't talking about that. Charlie Brown started off in black and white, man. The original one. Okay. The Eagles are first in the NFC East, playing the Bills who are currently second in the afce so
Starting point is 00:04:47 who do you have winning for the eagles versus the bills now this is another interesting game because listen the eagles on fire i wouldn't bet against the eagles right now at all because they are they know how to win close games and they've been winning a lot of close games but it looks like they're hitting their stride right now. But at the same time, it was a different type of joy pause on the Buffalo's bills faces last, last week when they came back off, you know, a couple straight losses fired their offensive coach.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And now they look at like the emotion. I mean, Josh Allen was running in the end zone, giving everybody high fives during the timeout. He wasn't even going to his head coach. He was going to talk to the new OC. It looked like they had a new thrill to play football, and this will be interesting because I really think the Bills need this game, especially how the Dolphins are playing in the division.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So the Bills need to win this game. Will they win the game? I'm not sure. But both teams looked pretty good last week, so it'll be a good game. Yeah. So even though Cam didn't answer the question, I'm going to answer the question. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Bills will win.
Starting point is 00:05:59 This will be the game, like Cam said, they need to win. And I just think that they're they're after proving that they belong sometime you get to that place where you start playing yourself out of the conversation and they again they really need this win to put themselves back in the conversation because even when you head towards the playoffs it's about teams you beat and how you beat those teams and if you're going to run against, you're going to find yourself against some of these same teams. You need to start making it known that we can, we can win on this level. So I'm going to go with the bills over, even though
Starting point is 00:06:36 the Eagles have been winning a lot of close games, they've been winning even when they didn't look good. So it's gone against a lot, But I know Philadelphia fans will be mad at me, but right now I'm against Philadelphia and DJ Drama. So everything. I would like to say I did answer the question, and you said everything. You said everything I said. You said, first of all, you said Cam didn't answer the question.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Then you say, but like Cam said. And then at the end of your whole soliloquy. You didn't say who was going to win. I did. I said I'm going with the Eagles. Oh, okay. I didn't hear that. Obviously, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Then at the end of your whole soliloquy, you was like, I'm going to go with the Bills, but I don't want the Philadelphia fans to be mad at me. No, I said I'm going against the Philadelphia fans to be mad at me. I said I'm going against the Philadelphia fans. You didn't hear me. If you want to just say the Bills, stop apologizing to people.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I learned that from OJ. OJ, if you're watching this, I took that scheme out of your bag. Yeah. You making a pick, and then you just go on all this apology shit with the whole shit.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Stay strong, my nigga. Stay strong, B. That's how OJ did it. OJ, he gave you this whole soliloquy about why they won't win, but then say the other team is going to win, so he cover all his bases. Yeah, we'll see the juice tomorrow poor so quick follow-up question if the bills don't win this game do you see them being a lost cause i definitely do i could just answer that in a one statement answer
Starting point is 00:08:22 i definitely see that because after what happened last year, right, even the catastrophic thing that happened on the field, I would think the Bills would be more playing with more emotion. Like right now they found that emotion, like Cam said earlier, but I would think this whole year they would have devoted that to that. You know, when something happened with a person on a team normally a team rallies around that and want to win for this person because you know the timeline doesn't say he'll be around a long time especially with that kind of that kind of thing that happened I don't even know what to call it but I think it's a lost cause
Starting point is 00:09:02 because if they lose now the dolphins is only going to get better the chiefs are going to get better everybody that they they're running neck and neck with or not neck and neck with but everybody they're running against is only going to get better so the window they have this year they won't have that that window next year and sometimes people think that because they're so close like we, we came in second next year. No. Next year, you'll be number nine. But Cam, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:09:33 You a wild nigga, man. That's what I think, man. You a wild nigga. Look, man. Is it over? I don't even think it's over for them this year. Because you didn't, Mace didn't answer the question. And so you're saying it's over? I said, yes. If they don't even think it's over for them this year because Mace didn't answer the question. And so you're saying it's over? I said, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:48 If they don't win this year, it's over for them because every other team is going to get that much better. So let me just start clear for the question, Stat. Is it win this year or win this week? I was thinking this week. Do you feel like they're a lost cause? Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. This week.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So you're more referring to the season, right? Oh, yeah. I was also referring to the season. You was referring to next year. You started saying it'll be number nine and all this other crazy shit and we was only talking about this week. I think futuristic. That's why y'all got me.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I ain't denying that. I knew that was coming. I threw you the alley-oop for that. Yeah. You always picking your nose on the broadcast, bro. Come on, man. Nasty-ass nigga. Come on, man. Nasty-ass nigga.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Nasty-ass nigga. Yeah, nigga. Yo, the nigga story and nasty. Why you blowing me up, bro? They don't know that. They don't know that. It's for your eyes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yo, fam, we look as hard to work like this, man. This is a tissue release. Get off your ass. Get out of here, bro. Get my pants, man. That's wild. Goodness, Nick. That's sick and fire.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Damn, bro. No, he did it yesterday. I'm trying to ignore it. And then the week before that, he got on camera naked. Yeah, that nigga comfortable in his house, man. That nigga
Starting point is 00:11:15 got a homie face. Nick naked homie. That nigga, Nick, when he home, that nigga home, boy, he comfortable. Look, as far as it being over, look, I'm not sure if it's going to be over for the Bills if they don't win this week. Look, we probably have about six, depending on how many games you played already, five or six games left, and there's a lot of teams that's six and five, six and four, five and five, seven and three. It only takes a two to three week spin around
Starting point is 00:11:54 for certain teams to get in the playoffs and certain teams to be out of the playoffs. If they lose today, I think their playoff chances are getting slim. But as far as it being over for them, I'm going to say no, because the bills do have playoff experience and if they could sneak in the playoffs to get may's favorite word
Starting point is 00:12:10 these last couple weeks a wild card i wouldn't count them out because of the playoff experience they have so to answer the question no i'm not counting them out yet even if they lose this game this week okay now the ravens are first in their division playing the chargers who do you have winning this game oh that's a that's a good one that's a that's a really good one i can see that game going either way i mean i i know the the ravens should win it but, but I could definitely see that game going either way. Who would you say, Cam? I kind of agree with you. Look, the way the football season seems,
Starting point is 00:12:54 outside of the Philadelphia Eagles, every time you think a team has some momentum, something happens. And right now, it seems like the Ravens have great momentum. Lamar Jackson's playing good. He hasn't had many 400-yard game breaking out, but he's doing enough running-wise and passing-wise for them to win. He's got Odell Beckham Jr. making sightings of him again.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Look, they're in stride, and they're looking really good. But this season, every time a team looks like they hit that stride, like I said, outside of Philly, they lose the game. So I'm going to go for the upset and say that the Chargers are going to win this game. And just for the record, I'll say the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Be more. Browns versus Broncos. Can Russell Wilson lead his team to a win this time what do we think yeah yeah what you think ohio gonna do with russell wilson i mean they still got good defense so i'm gonna the number one defense yeah i'm gonna. I'm going to go with – I'm going to go with – I'm going to go with Sierra on this one. I'm going with Sierra and Russell on this. What I will say is this. I'm not sure exactly what's the dynamic of what's going on in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:14:30 but it seems like Sean Payton and Russell Wilson are starting to be on the same page. And it may have took them eight or nine weeks to get there, but it seems like they're also hitting their stride. As far as Cleveland, they have great defense. I'm not sure what this backup quarterback is going to do, but they are 7-3, so I think this is an important game for them as well because, look, if Baltimore does lose and they win, now they're top in first place in the division.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So I think I'm going to go with Denver because I think they're hitting their stride. They figured something out. And Cleveland doesn't have Deshaun Watson. So that's my pick. And I will say this. Ever since that, this Russell Wilson, he's been kicking ass. Because he said his skills fell off and don't blame it on Sierra and everything else.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Ever since that episode three or four weeks ago, he's been kicking ass. So I don't know if this is because of Sean Payton, the chemistry, the camaraderie, the brotherhood that goes on in the locker room and on the football field, or I don't know if this is Stat trying to call niggas out and niggas with white don't try to play me.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, this is on Stat. This is Stat. You got to eat your words, Stat. Sierra heard you loud and clear. So, baby, go out there and get them touchdowns. Yeah, first of all, Stat said, stop blaming it on Sierra.
Starting point is 00:15:58 His skills have diminished and he's not the player that he once was. Let's just face it. How do you feel, Stat? How do you feel to be wrong, Stat? I'm okay with being wrong because at least he's moving himself, but it's still a little bit early just because he's better for these next games. I still have to see what happens in the end.
Starting point is 00:16:17 So I'm not really against him. I agree with that. I'm not really against him. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Now, a nigga could go in a three-game winning streak, look great, and then stink it up the next four or five. I think it's a small sample size. But right now, it's on you, Stat, until further notice.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Russell Wilson is playing good. Yeah. So when it is what it is, we got to put that picture by Russell Wilson in four notes since that's over. First of all, let me tell all you stat baby fans out there something real quick. Don't come in my comments with that bullshit, man. I'll tell you that right now. I'm blocking you niggas. And I don't care what you think, nigga.
Starting point is 00:17:04 A couple people have been in my comments talking about, yo, y'all niggas need to stop leaning on Stack about Miami and all that. Yo, let her like who she like. Y'all from New York, y'all be D-riding up there too. I'm like, D-ride? Yo, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I caught myself and just blocked niggas. I said, yo, yo, my man, who the fuck? He talk about stop pressing. Like, we was leaning on her with a gun. I'm like, yo, stop liking my hand. Like, I feel like three, I block like three niggas behind her. Yo, y'all niggas tripping.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You come, y'all go on our page. I'm blocking y'all niggas. If it ain't no LOL or nothing behind it, I'll take it with an LOL or a laugh face emoji. If there's nothing behind that, get the fuck out of here, man. We're going to press up on Miami when we want to, man. And just so they know, I'm okay with it, y'all. We're supposed to debate,
Starting point is 00:18:01 but I respect y'all for always trying to stick up for me. Okay. Moving along to the Jaguars versus the Texans. I'm going to call this the C.J. Stroud versus Trevor Lawrence showdown. Who do you got? Well, me, I'm going to go with Ohio. You know, at the end of the day, the Texans. Look, if Ohio gets Florida, what you want to do?
Starting point is 00:18:32 I know it's the Texans. Both for your hometown. I got to go with CJ, but I love Jacksonville. This is what you've been doing all morning. All morning. I got to go with this, but I love Jacksonville. This is what you've been doing all morning. All morning. I gotta go with this, but I love this person. Hey, man, I love you, but I gotta go with you
Starting point is 00:18:52 and don't be mad at me. Where the niggas get choked niggas out at? Where that nigga at? You know what? My bad. It's Sunday. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. It's Sunday. You gotta be this Sunday. I bad. It's Sunday. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. It's Sunday. You got to be. It's Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I got to be diplomatic on Sunday. Yeah. I'm not mad at you for that. But, yeah, more the story is, if Jacksonville loses this game, they're tied with Houston for first place. So this is a very important game for both teams. Because Houston wins, they're going to be tied for first. Jacksonville loses, it's a tie.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I think Jacksonville needs to win this game so that they can be two games ahead of Texans in first place. Like I said, we're winding down coming close to the playoffs. It doesn't matter what your record is. If you win the division, you're automatically in the playoffs. So it's important for Jacksonville to win. So that means Lawrence got to let his hat, he got to let his head out. Pause. It's a serious game, man.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Playoff implications as well. So we'll see. I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm gonna go for the jaguars because trevor lawrence if you know and if you are in jacksonville trevor trevor lawrence gave the jags hope that we never had before when he brought us playoff round last year it was one of those things that's like yo jacksonville was doing so bad for so many years and he finally gave us that spark um i think it's gonna be a good tough game I think CJ Stroud's gonna be able to get a lot of passes in but I think it'll be a little bit close but I
Starting point is 00:20:30 could see the Jaguars taking it at the end if there's not silly mistakes and interceptions on Jacksonville's side but we'll see I think I think it's amazing that even this early in his career we're putting him paws neck and neck at every game with every quarterback i think that's crazy like it's almost like how mahomes was like that first year is just you got him right there the whole time my thing is with both of you guys it really amazes me and I know people can't see Nick and I know Nick knows but that just says he gave us hope now it's us
Starting point is 00:21:13 yo us is wow us is wow yo cause you know Trevor Morris he gave all of us hope and stuff that we we and us is wow gave us hope and stuff that we and us is wow. Gave us hope.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And then, you know, we can just go. Who is, what part of Florida is y'all from? All of y'all. Both of y'all. It's like Ohio. It's a whole Florida thing, you know. Gave us and we as well. No, listen.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I was thinking about this because even when we was talking yesterday about Pennix, you know, Pennix it's Tampa. No, listen, I was thinking about this because even when we was talking yesterday about Pennix, you know, Pennix is from Tampa. So it's a Florida thing. These Heismans are coming out of Florida, you know, and the championship coming back to Florida with Carson Beck and the Dawgs. It's just a Florida thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So now the championship's coming back to Florida and not Georgia. You're wild, bro. You're wild. You're wild, bro. No, no, no. I'm saying the quarterback is from Florida. So even in Georgia, it's a Florida thing. You just said the championship, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You just said the championship. I know, because he's the quarterback. Okay, so you say the quarterback from Georgia is from Florida. Yeah, he's from Jacksonville. Got you. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I misunderstood. I thought you were saying a Florida team is going to win the championship. My bad. I misunderstood. I just don't know where you guys are from apart from Florida. It's just like C.J. Stroud. You're giving them to Ohio. You're giving them to parts of Florida.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Don't fuck with other parts of Florida. So don't say and act like it's some camaraderie shit. You got niggas who be like, I'm from Dade County. Don't compare me to other counties. Then you got niggas from Broward County like, I'm from Broward County. Then you got niggas, Duval. Y'all niggas are separated.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's not togetherness like that. For y'all two, it's togetherness like that because it's convenient. Niggas, go to one of these counties and ask them about another county. Fuck them niggas. They ain't like that because it's convenient. Go to one of these counties and ask them about another county. Fuck them niggas. They ain't like that. Y'all have fun.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I'm just here to oversee Florida. That'll make Danny Matt really mad. You tell him that. I'm here to oversee Florida. Now you are the Bush family. Bush members. Now you oversee the whole state. You're the governor.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Get the fuck. This nigga wild, bro. Little wild boy, man. I'm cool. I just ain't no consent. We and us do me all. Because I never heard her say we or us pertaining to Jacksonville. That's just my hometown.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Like, my family is like diehard Jags fan. But me and my dad are diehard Steelers fan. It's the difference. So I can claim for the city of Jacksonville, and they love when I shout them out. I can claim it for them, but that's where I was born. That's where all my family is. So for the Jaguars, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:24:10 The thing about us that is this, and I ain't going to blow you up. But at the same time, you couldn't even walk when you was in Jacksonville. You ain't starting the streets until you got to Tampa. You loved Jacksonville when you was like three. That's what my family is. Come on, that shit don't start you like that. I was in Jacksonville longer than you, Statt. That's family though. But when's the last time you've been back, Mace? That's where my family is.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I was just there, Statt. Now don't mess up this thing of ours, you know? When's the last time either one of you were in Jacksonville, actually? In the summer. All of my family lived there. All of them. I was just there. have you ever lived there
Starting point is 00:24:48 lived no besides the time yeah you keep trying to pump it like you you slipped all my family i lived on cassey roads that i i lived there i don't know what you talking about i just know that at this point in my life i go around not claiming jacksonville they're gonna be like dang so it's like that you get to start doing stuff now all of a sudden you're not from jacksonville so i gotta yeah they definitely will kill you over there it's like amazing may may may set a street which street are you from at least he knows what streams from well my they're gonna it's different my grandparents are in orange park but my mom grew up in different areas so like yeah wow you don't even know a
Starting point is 00:25:32 school legit no i do my mom you know what you gave her a dj kit because now she's spinning. I said, which street? She said, well, Orange Park for my mom. Orange Park is not a street. It's an area. No, it's the area. I don't know the exact street. I just live in the car where my parents go. Like, I don't know. Moving along.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Steelers versus Bengals. Joe Burrow is out for the season. Do you think the Bengals can still win? I'm not sure, man. Like I said, they had a long week, being that they played, I believe, last Thursday. So they had a long week to rest in this new backup quarter and get the reps that he needs.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I can't say that they're going to win, but I'll tell you after this game what it looks like for them the rest of the season. As for Pittsburgh, this is another team that's sitting six and four. If they win and Cleveland loses, they become a second-place tie in the division. They become tied for second place within their division. Like I said, it's a lot of teams close one, two games within each other.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And I think we have about six, seven weeks, depending on if you had a bye week or not, left. So this game is very important for both teams. If I'm going to pick, I'm going with Pittsburgh because I don't know what this backup quarterback is going to look like. And I can tell you after the game what I think about the Bengals the rest of the season, being that Joe Burrow isn't coming back. Yeah, I think the Pittsburgh, Tomlin,
Starting point is 00:27:12 the coach is too good to lose to them without Joe Burrow. So I think this will be like a slap in the face to him. And I think Pittsburgh definitely is going to win. I'm hoping Pittsburgh wins, but we're in a weird situation because we did just fire our offensive coordinator. And I think Mike Tomlin did that solely for the fact of he didn't want to mess up his winning record
Starting point is 00:27:37 that he's had since being a coach. So if we lose, then that says a lot about our team and we have a lot of rebuilding to do. I'm not going to say we're going to win it because i just don't know with the bangles um and we just don't know how jake browning which is their backup quarterback is going to perform um but i'm hoping we come out victorious on the stealer side but i don't know you don't think they're going to be jake brown jake browning yeah do i think i just i don't i don't know what to expect Jake Brown? Jake Browning? Yeah. Do I think... I just...
Starting point is 00:28:05 I don't know what to expect from him. I mean, same thing kind of happened with Brock Purdy when he was put in. We were like, okay, he's actually doing well. So it could be his redemption time. I don't know. So... Might be the year to back up.
Starting point is 00:28:20 All I want to say is this. I know you can't see me. But he's my only witness that stat two segments in a row say we. If we're going to win, we're going to hope so, because in five hours, OC, yo, that's a wild stat. Look, we throw a lot of shit at Mace for flip-flopping around all the time. This team or that team. And why he has a reason that's his team.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And he lived in Oregon. He stayed up here. He lived in San Diego. All types of shit. This shit is rubbing off on you for us. And you're finding excuses for every time you say this is a team and you say we. Backup, you didn't even wait to another segment,
Starting point is 00:29:08 but it's cool. The show is getting outlandish. The OJ jet lag. The OJ jet lag is everywhere. The OJ jet lag is everywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Well, in the comments, let me know what you guys think. And if you guys think I've been spinning it up, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will talk about Anthony Edwards' desire to make history. Don't go anywhere. Pink horsepower. She call this thing about toxic. What's happening, baby?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Baby, what's happening? Why you walk in like that? That's how I walk. I'm toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening? Why you walk in like that? That's how I walk. And then you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned. You fucking blind?
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm dark skinned. What the fuck? And then look at your beard. What the fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset.
Starting point is 00:30:15 She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink horsepower. No, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good no php it works every time wait where are you going welcome back so let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day
Starting point is 00:31:03 sunday night the ravens will play the char our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Sunday night, the Ravens will play the Chargers. Underdog fantasy has Lamar Jackson at one and a half passing touchdowns. Do you have him higher or lower? Higher. Put some respect on Jackson's name. Come on. Of course he's going to have more than that. Same thing you said, you need an agent.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah. Yeah, I'm higher, man. Higher. Try the mother's love. The mother's love, killer. Say what you want to say, man. The mother's love. Everybody seen her.
Starting point is 00:31:34 The mother's love. I know you know that people can see you when you do this, man. You know people can see you. There's nothing better than the mother's love, Cam. A mother can be anything. To all the black women out there. To all the black mothers out there.
Starting point is 00:31:51 That had to be fathers. That had to be counselors. That had to be agents. That had to be big brothers. Right, right, Starr? What you don't want to do, you can't. You can't fuck. You can't fuck with murder.
Starting point is 00:32:09 You can't fuck with murder. First of all, don't try to battle him on Sunday mornings. Let him win. You can't win. Odell Beckham Jr. is at three receptions. Do you have him higher or lower?
Starting point is 00:32:28 I'm going to go lower. They haven't really been targeting him like that. He's one or two catch games and just going for extra 30, 40 yards after the run. So I'm going to go lower. Me too. Pause. I'm going to go lower.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Okay. And Justin Herbert is at 23 and a half completions do you have him higher or lower i'm gonna go higher let me see yeah they saying higher i'm gonna go higher okay make sure to download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too let's get into anthony edwards the timberwolves star believes he can be the first player to be in the nba and nfl so he believes it but do you believe it he believes he could do it at a pause at a high level he didn't just't just say he could be the first person to play. He thinks he could do it on a great level.
Starting point is 00:33:30 He actually even went as far as saying he wants to pursue this after he wins a championship. So I don't know how long he got in his time schedule to win a championship. I think he's a phenomenal athlete and phenomenal player. Shout out to you, Anthony Edwards, and trying to be like Deion. I really appreciate it. But to say after he won the championship, how long you think it is before they win a championship, Ken?
Starting point is 00:34:00 The Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah. They're not on schedule. Listen, they're looking good this year. Championship? I don't know. Listen, man, there's been a lot going on in sports period outside the Philadelphia Eagles looking very consistent.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Anything seems like it happened. And Denver as well. You know, Denver is definitely in a way, especially when Jamal Murray is there. He's been out, but he's there. Everybody, everybody's way on the West Denver until further notice.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Listen, I'll say this, you know, everybody thought LeBron might play football. You know, Jerry Jones was teasing it. LeBron was teasing it. I remember him dunking over the goalpost saying it's going to be his first touchdown celebration and everything else.
Starting point is 00:34:53 What I will say is this, that Anthony Edwards and I don't know if he'll ever win a championship, you know, but what I'll say is this, is that this must be very serious that he must be able to play in the NFL because one of the things is this,
Starting point is 00:35:14 that in his contract, once it kicks in his extension next year, he's not allowed to play in any other professional sports. If that's in his contract, that means he might have the ability to play in other professional sports. And the Minnesota Timberwolves don't want to spend that kind of money and he can go out and play football and potentially injure himself and not be able to play basketball on that level. If he wasn't back, these teams know what your habits are.
Starting point is 00:35:50 They have people following you. They know what you do. They know what they're getting into before they give you this kind of money. Like Jason Williams, you know, he changed his name to Jay Wilner, comes out of Duke. I'm not sure if he was first player or not. Chicago Bulls get him. He's supposed to be the next coming to Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They give him Michael Jordan's locker. The Bulls treat him good. In his contract, he gets his money except for if anything happens to him on a motorcycle. Now, how is this in the contract it didn't say in his contract you can't play other professional sports his contract said if anything happens to you pertaining you in a motorcycle you will not get your money and that's what happened that's how he ended his career in a motorcycle accident. I actually see him crying about it on ESPN a few times during commentary when he was on a particular show.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So that was really tough for him. But back to Anthony Edwards, if he wasn't good enough to play in any other professional sports, that wouldn't be in his contract. Because you got to think about it. Imagine him saying, yo, guys, I'm going to go try out for the NFL. Go ahead, nigga. Go
Starting point is 00:37:09 try out for the NFL. See how that works out for you. No, for this to be in his contract, I think it's very much serious that he could play professional sports, whether it be NFL or something else. I'm not sure what else he was good in coming out of college, but this is very
Starting point is 00:37:25 serious this thing in contract secondly i don't know if it ever happens if he has to win a championship to do it especially with the minnesota timbers not saying they can't do it it just doesn't look scheduled anytime soon yeah he played he played football growing up until he switched over to basketball and one of the things you can look for, like in all of the Georgia athletes, that's why I was able to ask that guy about track. One of the guys that like most of the guys that are very fast, I mean, it's common sense. They were also probably track athletes. But when you see somebody explosive like Anthony Edwards, LeBron, AI, all of them have a football background. That's where their vertical comes from a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So I think they already knew that, just like you said. And that's why they put that in the contract. Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniels explains the story of how he met his wife. So when he used to coach another team, one of his running backs was dancing with the girl and he told the player, listen, you're not dancing with her anymore, or you're not playing with this team next year. Then McDaniels starts dancing with her. Eventually four years later, they are now married. So thoughts on him sharing that story and just the meeting to begin with. You talking about using your power. Paul's like, at a time like this, that's not a good story.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Niggas using their power to take girls. Yo, how much hate is that, killer? Or is it just I got a better plan for her? Which one is it? Nah, that shit is some wild ass hating. Because, man, look. What if the GM tells you that while you're dancing with her? Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:39:18 You're not. Yo, I'm not. You ain't going to dance with her no more. You fired tomorrow. It trickles down. Yeah. You trickles down. Yeah. You trickle down. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It trickles down. What I take from her is I take, you know, I go back to the movie Scarface. She don't want to fuck with the help. So whoever's the next matchup, she might leave you for the GM, might leave the GM for the owner. Listen, this girl left the running back because he said, yo, you ain't playing, nigga. If I don't dance
Starting point is 00:39:52 with her, marry her, have kids with her, it's fucked up on her part as well. I'm going to say both of them is wild, but I think that's wild sucker shit that that coach did that. Now, look, sometimes it works out. It is what it is. I think that's wild sucker shit that that coach did that. Now, look,
Starting point is 00:40:06 sometimes it works out. It is what it is. I don't know how true the whole James Hart and Kelly Oubre story is, but if it is, it ain't coaching
Starting point is 00:40:18 and players kind of play it a player, but, hey, sometimes it works out. They build a family. That's all I got to say. As far as the original hate, yeah, hate, cutthroat,
Starting point is 00:40:31 suckershit, motherfucking take your job and take your girl's wife. And another thing is this. You got to think about moving forward when he marries her, when that player comes back over. Does he think he's still got
Starting point is 00:40:48 a shot? Because she was dancing with me. The whole thing about it at this point, we don't really know because this wasn't when he was in the NFL. This is when he was with some other league. This has to disrupt the locker room. It has to disrupt the locker room. It has to disrupt
Starting point is 00:41:06 management, ownership, everything. He probably was out of there before the season was over. Like, yo, this thing ain't gonna just take my shorty, bring it to the games,
Starting point is 00:41:16 and tell me I'm not playing on top of that because we don't even know about the situation where he threatened not to play him unless he stopped dancing with him.
Starting point is 00:41:24 We don't know what happened to him. He might not have been getting no burn. She might have been a lot of fucking mental torture for him. We don't know. We got to dig deeper into the story to find out how this played out. Yeah. All right. Moving along to the Spurs,
Starting point is 00:41:43 although they got number one draft pick victor one benyama they have lost 11 straight games how do you feel about that we gotta stop building these people up you know this is what the nba been doing for years at least i've been watching basketball and it used to be dope because the stars would always show up when they needed to show up and players would also play the game. when you advertise, and I hate
Starting point is 00:42:16 doing this shit because I remember they did to me and I was like, damn, they can say I'm old, but I just can't help it because I've seen it. When the NBA markets are spectacular, man. Michael Joy, spectacular, man. Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, spectacular. The Pistons, spectacular.
Starting point is 00:42:37 John Moran, when you tell me you got a new John Moran, you tell me you got Zion, you know, LeBron James when he came, Carmelo Anthony. They promote these stars and you anticipate wanting to see the stars. So when you got Zion out for over 100 games in three
Starting point is 00:42:58 seasons, it's disappointing. When you got John Moran, he's injured from time to time and then you start the year off with a 25 gameant, he's injured from time to time, and then you start the year off with a 25-game suspension. It's disappointing. And a lot of people want to come see these stars. Back to the Spurs, Victor Wembe is not cheating the game. Anything, like I said, anybody else was,
Starting point is 00:43:20 they're not getting injuries or cheating the game. He's just not living up to that superstar quality that we were expecting to see. Mace made up a great point last time we talked about him. His numbers are saying that he's doing great, but the eye test as looking at a superstar is when I actually watched the game, and it was like, damn, damn bro this last game against
Starting point is 00:43:45 the last game I watched I should say against Golden State and Gary Payton Jr. punched this shit to the third row like yo why is Gary Payton Jr. punching this shit to the third row then a lot of times he's looking like a daisical
Starting point is 00:44:00 I'm not sure if he's getting burnt out early to the point where Pop even had to call him and say, yo, what's going on? Before the game, Pop was there, just have fun, don't be too much stress, but the middle of the game, I think Pop's seeing a lackluster performance. And I'm not talking about number one,
Starting point is 00:44:17 I'm talking about effort-wise. Effort looked lackluster. And like I said, I don't know how they play in Paris or where you played at before this but you could tell um his effort is not being night in and night out for me not to be the superstar they're trying to make them and be yeah you made a lot of great points and especially the lackluster attitude i think it's a difference for for wimby of being a hunted, you know, like when he was in the Paris League or wherever he was playing. He was more so the person hunting the NBA. Now that he's in the NBA, he's the hunted.
Starting point is 00:44:55 He's the person that everybody wants to make their best game against. They want to show that he doesn't belong. And I think he got it. He got to switch his mentality. Another thing that I think he gotta he gotta switch his mentality another thing that I saw with them losing 11 games it's only three of those teams that they should have beat they lost to I got the list here they lost to the Nuggets I mean they about to lose to the Nuggets so that's going to make it 12 in a row but since then they lost to the Warriors, the Clippers twice, the Kings, the Thunder, the Heat, the Timberwolves. Nobody they should have beat in that list. They shouldn't have beat the Pacers, not even the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I mean, you could say they should have beat the Raptors or probably the Grizzlies. But other than that, they were not supposed to win any of those games. So I think that would be an unrealistic expectation of them, especially with the team that's on his roster. Now, who knows? They make the three-way trade and get Jordan Poole over there. They might be talking about something. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:46:01 That list you gave is pretty much correct. They shouldn't be. But effort is another thing for me. Just showing the lack of effort. Like I said, I haven't seen all the games you named, but I guess Golden State, it was terrible. It was really terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And lastly. And he had about 26 points, but it was a 20. That's what I'll be talking about when you get so many shot attempts and so much of the offense is going through you. You're taking a lot of offense away from other good players to get the numbers that you're getting. So I definitely agree with Cam on that. And before we close the show, got got to talk about the nba and season tournament so the bracket is finally formulating the lakers and the pacers are undefeated in their games and have made
Starting point is 00:46:51 it to the knockout round so i have a list of some of the upcoming games most of them are on tuesday kind of want to get you guys's prediction to close out so one of the first ones, the Bucs versus the Heat. Who do you see winning? The Bucs. Don't start that Miami stuff, Stab. For real. I'm going with the Bucs off the strength of Stab Baby fans. Telling me what I should and shouldn't do. The Bucs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Hawks versus Cavs. Oh, that's a goodie. That's a goodie. Donovan and Homeboy versus Trey Young and Murray. But I got to go ATL. I got to go ATL. Cam going to go Ohio.
Starting point is 00:47:42 You going to go Ohio? I'm definitely going Cleveland, man. Shout out to Trey. Trey going to go Ohio you going to go Ohio definitely going Cleveland man shout out to Trey Trey going to have 40 and my young going to have 30 okay Raptors versus Nets
Starting point is 00:47:58 I don't think I care about that game I don't even know who's playing besides Dennis Smith Jr. Yeah, my bad. Dennis Smith Jr., we going with the Nets. Shout out to Dennis Smith. Okay. Hornets versus Knicks.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Ooh. I'm going with Hornets. I'm going with the Knicks. Knicks aren't looking half bad this year. No, don't get crazy, y'all. Don't get crazy, Nick. And the young goat. You got the young goat.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You say that shit, and you say, yo, the Knicks looking good. Yeah, Kim, see us? He says, yo, relax. Relax. Look at Tito, and look at Sid. They going crazy. He going to take Tito and look at Sin going crazy. He gonna take his clip and repost it. I'm going with
Starting point is 00:48:49 LaMelo. They got the young boy back. They got the gangster rapper back at Miles Bridges. They got the young goat. You know, they looking good. I'm going with LaMelo ball on them. Okay. The Bulls versus the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Celtics. Celtics. Celtics There's three more The Thunder versus the Timberwolves That's a goodie I'm going with Ant-Man Ant-Man when you dunk on him Do what Killer said Take the shoe off man Go viral.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with, this is a goodie. I'm actually going to sit down and watch this game. I want to see Ant-Man against Shea. So I'm going to go with the Timberwolves, but I told you last time this is another situation. I'm not going to say it's Steph Curry, but you know niggas is like Ant-Man is one of them niggas. Ant-Man be like, yo, he first team all NBA?
Starting point is 00:50:01 This is a battle of egos right here. So I'm going to actually sit down and watch this game in entirety. Even if we're working and not working, I'm going to record the game because I want to see Nick's attitude. But I'm going to go with the Timberwolves for now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:15 The Rockets versus the Mavs. The Mavs on Dallas. You crazy? Kyrie, shout out to Shamguard. And Kyrie and Luke are the Disney assassins. A small upset, man. I think Dallas is a better team. I think this is an in-state game.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And I think that the coach, I want to say his name on the alarm, baby father and all that, is going to amp them niggas up to win this game. He's done a great job with Van Fleet and them. Yeah. They got Green down there. He just won a championship. They got some good veterans.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Look, they got down there. They got good veterans, and they got people with shit to prove. Look, we got niggas clowning niggas for their off-season activities, missionary position and all that. Then we got, like I said, the coach got something to prove. You got championship credibility with Green. You got Dylan Brooks down there just being Dylan Brooks. And they got Van Fleet, right? Yeah, yeah, another champion.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So I think they have a good balance down there. I'm going to think they're going to pull the upset off. Do I think that Houston is better than Dallas? Absolutely not. But I'm going with Houston for this game. That was very OJ-ish, Cam. Look,
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm just following protocol for this show. Is this what y'all doing? Is this what y'all doing? I'm just following protocol. That's it, man. That's all I'm doing. One of the last games is the Warriors versus the Kings. I'm going to go with the
Starting point is 00:52:07 Kings. I think they're starting to play very good basketball. Warriors caught them early in the season. I don't think they want to lose again. I think that the Warriors don't win this. The Kings are one of them teams that kind of want to win this in-season tournament one of them teams that kind of want to win this
Starting point is 00:52:25 in-season tournament. Just to say that they got something underneath their belt moving forward for us. But I think that by the time the real players come around, if they have to match up again, Steph Curry and them will be ready. This week, I'm going with the
Starting point is 00:52:41 Kings over Golden State. Yeah, I'm going with the Kings as well. I was going to say, I never thought I would see the day where I would say that Monk is as productive as Klay Thompson. Klay, if you're listening to this, it's time, bro. It's time. It's time to get in your bag. Because right now, niggas are saying you and Monk is on the same level right now.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Not where you used to be today. Niggas is putting Monk past you, Clay. And I don't like that for you. I'm serious. I don't like that for you. So I will put the Kings past them. And I think if they beat them this time in the playoffs, they're going to beat them again because last year they were very close to beating this Golden State team, and that's with Poole and everybody else.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So I think this year is a breakout year for the Kings, and they're going to do something about it. We're going to see the Warriors break up this year if Klay don't get it together. Yeah, Monk wearing a dunking on niggas or a type of shit. He been acting real stupid, man. It ain't just the Deion Fox show.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Monk really been acting crazy. He been taking off on niggas, I know a lot too. I thought about that. I said, I never thought I'd say this, but I got Monk a little past Klay right now. Even when I watched Golden State against the Spurs, it was
Starting point is 00:54:11 a stretch where Klay missed five straight shots, one of them hit the three, missed. They get the offensive rebound, pass it to him, shoot, miss again, go to the other end of the court. He comes back there and tries to shoot a left, misses. I was like, damn tried to shoot a little missy it was i was like damn he needs to pass the ball and i don't really wouldn't say that usually about clay
Starting point is 00:54:30 thompson um time is not as fun contract year is coming up and uh doesn't look good for him to get the max or maybe a free agent but i think golden state of work signed out but for him to get what he wants to get with Golden State, I have to be amazed. Tom is not your friend, bro. It's almost Christmas. Yeah. And the worst thing to see is a person with perfect form missing.
Starting point is 00:54:55 You know how niggas had a perfect form but it ain't going in? It's like, what do you do if your form is perfect and it's not going in? Falls, that's crazy. What is it at that point? It's confidence, right? Mental.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It's mental. His form is perfect. And then on top of that, his form might be perfect, but his legs, balls may not be the legs he used to be. You get to lift off the ground that he used to have. That's why the best shooters are shooters. Yeah, yeah. You know, I do this day, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Chauncey Billups. Languishing injuries. Yeah. Yeah, get it together, Clay. We rooting for you, man. So this time. We gonna pray for you. Yeah. So this time. We're going to pray for you. Yeah, it's Sunday.
Starting point is 00:55:46 We're praying for Clay. This time I wrote down y'all's answers. So when Tuesday after the games are done, we can compare and see if you guys were correct or not. So we don't have to hold the tape. So that'll be good. In the comments. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:02 In the comments, let us know which in-season tournament game you're most excited to see because we know we'll be watching so we hope y'all are too that's all the time we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is it is what it is like when they doing them two for five

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