IT IS WHAT IT IS - NFL WEEK 12 SUNDAY COUNTDOWN & ANTMAN SAYING HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL IS WILD | IIWII EP#54
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aka sat baby along with your host mace and cam what's up killer how you doing man i'm doing great
good you look great man see you on a sunday morning man yeah man praise the lord
how you doing stat i'm doing great i have a lot of leftovers ready to eat the rest of them until i
can but it was a good week yeah that was great i'm sure that should go, today is the day to go out, yo.
It's the last, no, today's the last day.
You can't do Sunday
as you're tripping.
You gotta go, plaz,
put up a schedule for that shit.
Today is you tripping.
He said on Monday,
he said Monday to hospital.
Next Tuesday you die.
Today, you tripping.
I'm dead.
Okay, well, it's week 12 of football season.
Very exciting.
So let's start with some important games happening this afternoon.
So first, let's start with the Chiefs versus the Raiders.
Who do you see winning?
Well, you know, I got to go. I got to go with Titletown. You know, we got to get this game
back. And since we lost that heartbreaker to the Eagles, we got to win today. We can't fall behind
because we got to be able to win the playoffs
and everything like that and have a good season in the playoffs.
What about you, Killer?
I know you're going to say something about the Chiefs.
No, listen, Chiefs are still, to me,
a top three football team in the league right now.
But the Raiders, since they got their new coach,
have been playing good. They lost last
week, but they're still looking really good.
The Chiefs are coming off a loss. It'll be a
real interesting game because it's
an in-division game at the same time.
The Chiefs really do need to win
this. That's a great point you made to make sure they
get good seeding in the playoffs.
But the Raiders haven't
looked half bad since they had their
new coach. It's going to be an interesting game. I'm going to go with the Chiefs, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders haven't looked half bad since they had their new coach. So it's going to be an interesting game.
I'm going to go with the Chiefs.
But I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders pulled off the upset.
Yeah.
So tell us, Swift, when you're watching this, go to the game.
We need this Swiftie magic pause to win this game.
She ain't fear they don't win.
Yeah, when Kelsey is acting weird these days.
Listen, they had a whole thing on that.
I forget who did the stat sheet, the yards, the touchdowns, et cetera,
of when she's there and when she's not there for Travis Kelsey.
And the fucking numbers was kind of crazy.
The analytics for his football play is wild
when she's there.
We make jokes and shit, but I don't know.
He may want to make sure
she's there. His numbers are way higher
when she's there.
Yeah, she's like his blanket.
Who was that in Charlie Brown
and one of them? He need his blanket.
Linus. Linus.
Linus.
Charlie Brown is old as fuck, bro.
You gotta bring that face back when I said
Charlie Brown. She said
you didn't look like, what is that?
No niggas ain't go back.
I think I know what you're talking about.
I hope you ain't talking about that.
Charlie Brown started off in black and white, man.
The original one.
Okay.
The Eagles are first in the NFC East,
playing the Bills who are currently second in the afce so
who do you have winning for the eagles versus the bills now this is another interesting game
because listen the eagles on fire i wouldn't bet against the eagles right now at all because
they are they know how to win close games and they've been winning a lot of close games but
it looks like they're hitting their stride right now.
But at the same time,
it was a different type of joy pause on the Buffalo's bills faces last,
last week when they came back off, you know,
a couple straight losses fired their offensive coach.
And now they look at like the emotion.
I mean, Josh Allen was running in the end zone,
giving everybody high fives during the timeout.
He wasn't even going to his head coach.
He was going to talk to the new OC.
It looked like they had a new thrill to play football,
and this will be interesting because I really think the Bills need this game,
especially how the Dolphins are playing in the division.
So the Bills need to win this game.
Will they win the game?
I'm not sure.
But both teams looked pretty good last week, so it'll be a good game.
Yeah.
So even though Cam didn't answer the question,
I'm going to answer the question.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Bills will win.
This will be the game, like Cam said, they need to win.
And I just think that they're they're after proving
that they belong sometime you get to that place where you start playing yourself out of the
conversation and they again they really need this win to put themselves back in the conversation
because even when you head towards the playoffs it's about teams you beat and how you beat those
teams and if you're going to run
against, you're going to find yourself against some of these same teams. You need to start making
it known that we can, we can win on this level. So I'm going to go with the bills over, even though
the Eagles have been winning a lot of close games, they've been winning even when they didn't look
good. So it's gone against a lot, But I know Philadelphia fans will be mad at me,
but right now I'm against Philadelphia and DJ Drama.
So everything.
I would like to say I did answer the question,
and you said everything.
You said everything I said.
You said, first of all, you said Cam didn't answer the question.
Then you say, but like Cam said.
And then at the end of your whole soliloquy.
You didn't say who was going to win.
I did.
I said I'm going with the Eagles.
Oh, okay.
I didn't hear that.
Obviously, you didn't.
Then at the end of your whole soliloquy, you was like,
I'm going to go with the Bills,
but I don't want the Philadelphia fans to be mad at me.
No, I said I'm going against the Philadelphia fans to be mad at me. I said I'm going against
the Philadelphia fans.
You didn't hear me.
If you want to just say the Bills,
stop apologizing to people.
I learned
that from OJ.
OJ,
if you're watching this,
I took that scheme out of your bag.
Yeah.
You making a pick, and then you just go on all this apology shit
with the whole shit.
Stay strong, my nigga.
Stay strong, B.
That's how OJ did it.
OJ, he gave you this whole soliloquy about why they won't win,
but then say the other team is going to win,
so he cover all his bases.
Yeah, we'll see the juice tomorrow poor so quick follow-up question if the bills don't win this game do you
see them being a lost cause i definitely do i could just answer that in a one statement answer
i definitely see that because after what happened last year, right,
even the catastrophic thing that happened on the field,
I would think the Bills would be more playing with more emotion.
Like right now they found that emotion, like Cam said earlier,
but I would think this whole year they would have devoted that to that.
You know, when something happened with a person on a team normally a team rallies around that and want to win for this person
because you know the timeline doesn't say he'll be around a long time especially with that kind of
that kind of thing that happened I don't even know what to call it but I think it's a lost cause
because if they lose now the dolphins is only going to get
better the chiefs are going to get better everybody that they they're running neck and neck with or
not neck and neck with but everybody they're running against is only going to get better
so the window they have this year they won't have that that window next year and sometimes people
think that because they're so close like we, we came in second next year. No.
Next year, you'll be number nine.
But Cam, what do
you think?
You a wild nigga, man.
That's what I think, man.
You a wild nigga. Look, man.
Is it over? I don't even think it's over for them
this year. Because you didn't, Mace
didn't answer the question.
And so you're saying it's over? I said, yes. If they don't even think it's over for them this year because Mace didn't answer the question. And so you're saying it's over?
I said, yes.
If they don't win this year, it's over for them
because every other team is going to get that much better.
So let me just start clear for the question, Stat.
Is it win this year or win this week?
I was thinking this week.
Do you feel like they're a lost cause?
Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This week.
So you're more referring to the season, right?
Oh, yeah.
I was also referring to the season.
You was referring to next year.
You started saying it'll be number nine and all this other crazy shit
and we was only talking about this week.
I think futuristic.
That's why y'all got me.
I ain't denying that.
I knew that was coming.
I threw you the alley-oop for that.
Yeah.
You always picking your nose on the broadcast,
bro. Come on, man.
Nasty-ass nigga. Come on, man.
Nasty-ass nigga.
Nasty-ass nigga.
Yeah, nigga.
Yo, the nigga story
and nasty.
Why you blowing me up, bro?
They don't know that.
They don't know that.
It's for your eyes.
Yo, fam, we look as hard to work like this, man.
This is a tissue release.
Get off your ass.
Get out of here, bro.
Get my pants, man.
That's wild.
Goodness, Nick.
That's sick and fire.
Damn, bro.
No, he did it yesterday.
I'm trying to ignore it.
And then the week before that, he got on
camera naked.
Yeah, that nigga comfortable
in his house, man.
That nigga
got a homie face.
Nick naked homie. That nigga, Nick, when he home, that nigga home, boy, he comfortable.
Look, as far as it being over, look, I'm not sure if it's going to be over
for the Bills if they don't win this week.
Look, we probably have about six, depending on how many games you played already,
five or six games left, and there's a lot of teams that's six and five,
six and four, five and five, seven and three.
It only takes a two to three week spin around
for certain teams to get in the playoffs
and certain teams to be out of the playoffs.
If they lose today,
I think their playoff chances are getting slim.
But as far as it being over for them,
I'm going to say no,
because the bills
do have playoff experience and if they could sneak in the playoffs to get may's favorite word
these last couple weeks a wild card i wouldn't count them out because of the playoff experience
they have so to answer the question no i'm not counting them out yet even if they lose this game this week okay now the
ravens are first in their division playing the chargers who do you have winning this game
oh that's a that's a good one that's a that's a really good one i can see that game going either
way i mean i i know the the ravens should win it but, but I could definitely see that game going either way.
Who would you say, Cam?
I kind of agree with you.
Look, the way the football season seems,
outside of the Philadelphia Eagles,
every time you think a team has some momentum,
something happens.
And right now, it seems like the Ravens have great momentum.
Lamar Jackson's playing good.
He hasn't had many 400-yard game breaking out,
but he's doing enough running-wise and passing-wise for them to win.
He's got Odell Beckham Jr. making sightings of him again.
Look, they're in stride, and they're looking really good.
But this season, every time a team looks like they hit
that stride, like I said, outside of Philly,
they lose the game. So I'm going to go for the
upset and say that the Chargers are going
to win this game.
And just for the record, I'll say
the Ravens.
Be more.
Browns versus Broncos.
Can Russell Wilson lead his team to a win this time what do we think yeah
yeah what you think ohio gonna do with russell wilson i mean they still got good defense so
i'm gonna the number one defense yeah i'm gonna. I'm going to go with – I'm going to go with –
I'm going to go with Sierra on this one.
I'm going with Sierra and Russell on this.
What I will say is this. I'm not sure exactly what's the dynamic of what's going on in the locker room,
but it seems like Sean Payton and Russell Wilson are starting to be on the same page.
And it may have took them eight or nine weeks to get there,
but it seems like they're also hitting their stride.
As far as Cleveland, they have great defense.
I'm not sure what this backup quarterback is going to do,
but they are 7-3, so I think this is an important game for them as well
because, look, if Baltimore does lose and they win,
now they're top in first place in the division.
So I think I'm going to go with Denver because I think they're hitting their stride.
They figured something out.
And Cleveland doesn't have Deshaun Watson.
So that's my pick.
And I will say this.
Ever since that, this Russell Wilson, he's been kicking ass.
Because he said his skills fell off and don't blame it on Sierra
and everything else.
Ever since that episode three or four weeks ago,
he's been kicking ass.
So I don't know if this is because of Sean Payton,
the chemistry, the camaraderie,
the brotherhood that goes on in the locker room
and on the football field,
or I don't know if this is Stat trying to call niggas out
and niggas with white don't try to play me.
Yeah, this is on Stat.
This is Stat. You got to eat your
words, Stat.
Sierra heard you loud and clear.
So,
baby, go out there and get them touchdowns.
Yeah, first of all, Stat
said, stop blaming it on Sierra.
His skills have diminished
and he's not the player that he once was.
Let's just face it.
How do you feel, Stat?
How do you feel to be wrong, Stat?
I'm okay with being wrong because at least he's moving himself,
but it's still a little bit early just because he's better for these next games.
I still have to see what happens in the end.
So I'm not really against him.
I agree with that.
I'm not really against him.
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Now, a nigga could go in a three-game winning streak,
look great, and then stink it up the next four or five.
I think it's a small sample size.
But right now, it's on you, Stat, until further notice.
Russell Wilson is playing good.
Yeah.
So when it is what it is, we got to put that picture by Russell Wilson in four notes since that's over.
First of all, let me tell all you stat baby fans out there something real quick.
Don't come in my comments with that bullshit, man.
I'll tell you that right now.
I'm blocking you niggas.
And I don't care what you think, nigga.
A couple people
have been in my comments talking about,
yo, y'all niggas need to stop
leaning on Stack about
Miami and all that. Yo, let her like
who she like. Y'all from New York, y'all be
D-riding up there too. I'm like,
D-ride? Yo, my nigga.
I caught myself and just blocked
niggas. I said, yo,
yo, my man, who the fuck?
He talk about stop pressing.
Like, we was leaning on her with a gun.
I'm like, yo, stop liking my hand.
Like, I feel like three, I block like three niggas behind her.
Yo, y'all niggas tripping.
You come, y'all go on our page.
I'm blocking y'all niggas.
If it ain't no LOL or nothing behind it,
I'll take it with an LOL or a laugh face emoji.
If there's nothing behind that, get the fuck out of here, man.
We're going to press up on Miami when we want to, man.
And just so they know, I'm okay with it, y'all.
We're supposed to debate,
but I respect y'all for always trying to stick up for me.
Okay.
Moving along to the Jaguars versus the Texans.
I'm going to call this the C.J. Stroud versus Trevor Lawrence showdown.
Who do you got?
Well, me, I'm going to go with Ohio.
You know, at the end of the day, the Texans.
Look, if Ohio gets Florida, what you want to do?
I know it's the Texans.
Both for your hometown.
I got to go with CJ, but I love Jacksonville.
This is what you've been doing all morning.
All morning. I got to go with this, but I love Jacksonville. This is what you've been doing all morning. All morning.
I gotta go with this, but I love this
person. Hey, man,
I love you, but I gotta go with you
and don't be mad at me.
Where the niggas get choked niggas
out at?
Where that nigga at?
You know what? My bad. It's Sunday.
I'm bugging. I'm bugging. It's Sunday.
You gotta be this Sunday. I bad. It's Sunday. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. It's Sunday. You got to be.
It's Sunday.
I got to be diplomatic on Sunday.
Yeah.
I'm not mad at you for that.
But, yeah, more the story is, if Jacksonville loses this game,
they're tied with Houston for first place.
So this is a very important game for both teams.
Because Houston wins, they're going to be tied for first.
Jacksonville loses, it's a tie.
I think Jacksonville needs to win this game so that they can be two games ahead of Texans in first place.
Like I said, we're winding down coming close to the playoffs.
It doesn't matter what your record is.
If you win the division, you're automatically in the playoffs.
So it's important for Jacksonville to win.
So that means Lawrence got to let his hat, he got to let his head out.
Pause.
It's a serious game, man.
Playoff implications as well.
So we'll see.
I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm gonna go for the jaguars because trevor
lawrence if you know and if you are in jacksonville trevor trevor lawrence gave the jags hope that we
never had before when he brought us playoff round last year it was one of those things that's like
yo jacksonville was doing so bad for so many years and he finally gave us that spark um i think it's
gonna be a good tough game I think
CJ Stroud's gonna be able to get a lot of passes in but I think it'll be a little bit close but I
could see the Jaguars taking it at the end if there's not silly mistakes and interceptions on
Jacksonville's side but we'll see I think I think it's amazing that even this early in his career
we're putting him paws neck and neck at every game with every
quarterback i think that's crazy like it's almost like how mahomes was like that first year is just
you got him right there the whole time my thing is with both of you guys it really amazes me and I know people can't see Nick and I know Nick knows
but
that just says he gave
us hope now it's us
yo
us is wow
us is wow yo
cause you know Trevor Morris he gave all of us
hope and stuff that we
we and us is
wow gave us hope and stuff that we and us is wow.
Gave us hope.
And then, you know, we can just go.
Who is, what part of Florida is y'all from?
All of y'all.
Both of y'all.
It's like Ohio.
It's a whole Florida thing, you know.
Gave us and we as well.
No, listen.
I was thinking about this because even when we was talking yesterday about Pennix, you know, Pennix it's Tampa. No, listen, I was thinking about this
because even when we was talking yesterday about Pennix,
you know, Pennix is from Tampa.
So it's a Florida thing.
These Heismans are coming out of Florida, you know,
and the championship coming back to Florida
with Carson Beck and the Dawgs.
It's just a Florida thing, you know.
So now the championship's coming back to Florida and not Georgia.
You're wild, bro.
You're wild.
You're wild, bro.
No, no, no.
I'm saying the quarterback is from Florida.
So even in Georgia, it's a Florida thing.
You just said the championship, bro.
You just said the championship.
I know, because he's the quarterback.
Okay, so you say the quarterback from Georgia is from Florida.
Yeah, he's from Jacksonville.
Got you.
My bad.
My bad.
My bad. My bad. My bad.
I misunderstood.
I thought you were saying a Florida team is going to win the championship.
My bad.
I misunderstood.
I just don't know where you guys are from apart from Florida.
It's just like C.J. Stroud.
You're giving them to Ohio.
You're giving them to parts of Florida.
Don't fuck with other parts of Florida.
So don't say and act like it's some camaraderie shit.
You got niggas who be like, I'm from Dade County.
Don't compare me to other counties.
Then you got niggas from Broward County like,
I'm from Broward County.
Then you got niggas, Duval.
Y'all niggas are separated.
It's not togetherness like that.
For y'all two, it's togetherness like that
because it's convenient.
Niggas, go to one of these counties
and ask them about another county. Fuck them niggas. They ain't like that because it's convenient. Go to one of these counties and ask them about another county.
Fuck them niggas.
They ain't like that.
Y'all have fun.
I'm just here to oversee Florida.
That'll make
Danny Matt really mad. You tell him that.
I'm here to oversee Florida.
Now you are the Bush family.
Bush members. Now you oversee
the whole state.
You're the governor.
Get the fuck.
This nigga wild, bro.
Little wild boy, man.
I'm cool.
I just ain't no consent.
We and us do me all.
Because I never heard her say we or us pertaining to Jacksonville.
That's just my hometown.
Like, my family is like diehard Jags fan.
But me and my dad are diehard Steelers fan.
It's the difference.
So I can claim for the city of Jacksonville,
and they love when I shout them out.
I can claim it for them, but that's where I was born.
That's where all my family is.
So for the Jaguars, it's cool.
The thing about us that is this, and I ain't going to blow you up. But at the same time, you couldn't even walk when you was in Jacksonville.
You ain't starting the streets until you got to Tampa.
You loved Jacksonville when you was like three.
That's what my family is.
Come on, that shit don't start you like that. I was in Jacksonville longer than you, Statt.
That's family though.
But when's the last time you've been back,
Mace? That's where my family is.
I was just there,
Statt. Now don't mess up this thing of ours, you know?
When's the last time
either one of you were in Jacksonville, actually?
In the summer.
All of my family lived there.
All of them.
I was just there. have you ever lived there
lived no besides the time yeah you keep trying to pump it like you you slipped all my family
i lived on cassey roads that i i lived there i don't know what you talking about i just know
that at this point in my life i go around not claiming jacksonville they're gonna be like dang so it's like that you get to start doing stuff
now all of a sudden you're not from jacksonville so i gotta yeah they definitely will kill you over
there it's like amazing
may may may set a street which street are you from at least he knows what streams from well
my they're gonna it's different my grandparents are
in orange park but my mom grew up in different areas so like yeah wow you don't even know a
school legit no i do my mom you know what you gave her a dj kit because now she's spinning. I said, which street? She said, well, Orange Park for my mom.
Orange Park is not a street.
It's an area.
No, it's the area.
I don't know the exact street.
I just live in the car where my parents go.
Like, I don't know.
Moving along.
Steelers versus Bengals.
Joe Burrow is out for the season.
Do you think the Bengals can still win?
I'm not sure, man.
Like I said, they had a long week,
being that they played, I believe, last Thursday.
So they had a long week to rest in this new backup quarter
and get the reps that he needs.
I can't say that they're going to win,
but I'll tell you after this game what it looks like for them
the rest of the season.
As for Pittsburgh, this is another team that's sitting six and four.
If they win and Cleveland loses,
they become a second-place tie in the division.
They become tied for second place within their division.
Like I said, it's a lot of teams close one, two games within each other.
And I think we have about six, seven weeks,
depending on if you had a bye week or not, left.
So this game is very important for both teams.
If I'm going to pick, I'm going with Pittsburgh
because I don't know what this backup quarterback is going to look like.
And I can tell you after the game what I think about the Bengals
the rest of the season, being that Joe Burrow isn't coming back.
Yeah, I think the Pittsburgh, Tomlin,
the coach is too good to lose to them without Joe Burrow.
So I think this will be like a slap in the face to him.
And I think Pittsburgh definitely is going to win.
I'm hoping Pittsburgh wins,
but we're in a weird situation
because we did just fire our offensive coordinator.
And I think Mike Tomlin did that solely for the fact
of he didn't want to mess up his winning record
that he's had since being a coach.
So if we lose, then that says a lot about our team
and we have a lot of rebuilding to do.
I'm not going to say we're going to win it because i just don't know with the bangles um and we just don't
know how jake browning which is their backup quarterback is going to perform um but i'm
hoping we come out victorious on the stealer side but i don't know you don't think they're
going to be jake brown jake browning yeah do i think i just i don't i don't know what to expect Jake Brown? Jake Browning? Yeah. Do I think...
I just...
I don't know what to expect from him.
I mean, same thing kind of happened with Brock Purdy
when he was put in.
We were like, okay, he's actually doing well.
So it could be his redemption time.
I don't know.
So...
Might be the year to back up.
All I want to say is this.
I know you can't see me.
But he's my only witness that stat two segments in a row say we.
If we're going to win, we're going to hope so,
because in five hours, OC, yo, that's a wild stat.
Look, we throw a lot of shit at Mace for flip-flopping around all the time.
This team or that team.
And why he has a reason that's his team.
And he lived in Oregon.
He stayed up here.
He lived in San Diego.
All types of shit.
This shit is rubbing off on you for us.
And you're finding excuses for every time
you say this is a team and you say we.
Backup, you didn't even wait to another segment,
but it's cool.
The show is getting
outlandish.
The OJ jet lag.
The OJ jet lag
is everywhere.
The OJ
jet lag is everywhere.
Well, in the comments,
let me know what you guys think.
And if you guys think I've been spinning it up, we're going to go to break.
When we return, we will talk about Anthony Edwards' desire to make history.
Don't go anywhere.
Pink horsepower.
She call this thing about toxic.
What's happening, baby?
Baby, what's happening?
Why you walk in like that? That's how I walk. I'm toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening?
Why you walk in like that?
That's how I walk.
And then you come on breathing on me like that.
I fucking breathe to live.
And you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned.
You fucking blind?
I'm dark skinned. What the fuck?
And then look at your beard.
What the fuck is wrong with my beard?
Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about?
No, I don't even like it.
The way you breathe in, all of that.
Has this ever happened to you?
Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset.
She's frustrated.
There's only one way to handle that.
Pink horsepower. No, no, no, no.
I'm just trying to give you a massage.
Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?
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sunday night the ravens will play the char our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Sunday night, the Ravens will play the Chargers.
Underdog fantasy has Lamar Jackson at one and a half passing touchdowns.
Do you have him higher or lower?
Higher.
Put some respect on Jackson's name.
Come on.
Of course he's going to have more than that.
Same thing you said, you need an agent.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm higher, man.
Higher.
Try the mother's love.
The mother's love, killer.
Say what you want to say, man.
The mother's love.
Everybody seen her.
The mother's love.
I know you know that people can see you
when you do this, man.
You know people can see you.
There's nothing better than the mother's love, Cam.
A mother can be anything.
To all the black women out there.
To all the black mothers out there.
That had to be fathers.
That had to be counselors.
That had to be agents.
That had to be big brothers.
Right, right, Starr?
What you don't want to do, you can't.
You can't fuck.
You can't fuck with murder.
You can't fuck with murder.
First of all, don't
try to battle him on Sunday mornings.
Let him win.
You can't win.
Odell Beckham Jr.
is at three receptions.
Do you have him higher or lower?
I'm going to go lower.
They haven't really been targeting him like that.
He's one or two catch games and just going for extra 30,
40 yards after the run.
So I'm going to go lower.
Me too.
Pause.
I'm going to go lower.
Okay.
And Justin Herbert is at 23 and a half completions do you
have him higher or lower i'm gonna go higher
let me see yeah they saying higher i'm gonna go higher okay make sure to download the underdog fantasy app and you can
make your picks too let's get into anthony edwards the timberwolves star believes he can be the first
player to be in the nba and nfl so he believes it but do you believe it he believes he could do it
at a pause at a high level he didn't just't just say he could be the first person to play.
He thinks he could do it on a great level.
He actually even went as far as saying he wants to pursue this
after he wins a championship.
So I don't know how long he got in his time schedule to win a championship.
I think he's a phenomenal athlete and phenomenal player.
Shout out to you, Anthony Edwards, and trying to be like Deion.
I really appreciate it.
But to say after he won the championship,
how long you think it is before they win a championship, Ken?
The Minnesota Timberwolves.
Yeah.
They're not on schedule.
Listen, they're looking good this year.
Championship?
I don't know.
Listen, man, there's been a lot going on in sports period
outside the Philadelphia Eagles looking very consistent.
Anything seems like it happened.
And Denver as well. You know, Denver
is definitely in a way,
especially when Jamal Murray is there. He's been
out, but he's
there. Everybody,
everybody's way on the West Denver until
further notice.
Listen, I'll say
this, you know, everybody thought LeBron
might play football. You know, Jerry Jones
was teasing it. LeBron
was teasing it. I remember him
dunking over the goalpost saying it's going to
be his first touchdown celebration
and everything else.
What I will say is this, that
Anthony Edwards
and I don't know if
he'll ever win a championship, you know,
but what I'll say is
this, is that this must be very serious
that he must be able to play in the NFL
because one of the things is this,
that in his contract,
once it kicks in his extension next year,
he's not allowed to play in any other professional sports.
If that's in his contract, that means he might have the ability to play in other professional
sports.
And the Minnesota Timberwolves don't want to spend that kind of money and he can go
out and play football and potentially injure himself and not be able to play basketball
on that level. If he wasn't back, these teams know what your habits are.
They have people following you.
They know what you do.
They know what they're getting into before they give you this kind of money.
Like Jason Williams, you know, he changed his name to Jay Wilner,
comes out of Duke.
I'm not sure if he was first player or not.
Chicago Bulls get him.
He's supposed to be the next coming to Michael Jordan.
They give him Michael Jordan's locker.
The Bulls treat him good.
In his contract, he gets his money except for if anything happens to him
on a motorcycle.
Now, how is this in the contract it didn't say in his contract you can't play other professional sports his contract said
if anything happens to you pertaining you in a motorcycle you will not get your money and that's
what happened that's how he ended his career in a motorcycle accident. I actually see him crying about it on ESPN a few times during commentary
when he was on a particular show.
So that was really tough for him.
But back to Anthony Edwards,
if he wasn't good enough to play in any other professional sports,
that wouldn't be in his contract.
Because you got to think about it.
Imagine him saying, yo, guys,
I'm going to go try out for the NFL.
Go ahead, nigga. Go
try out for the NFL. See how that works
out for you. No, for this to be
in his contract, I think it's very
much serious that he could play professional
sports, whether it be NFL
or something else. I'm not sure what else he
was good in coming out of college,
but this is very
serious this thing in contract secondly i don't know if it ever happens if he has to win a
championship to do it especially with the minnesota timbers not saying they can't do it it just doesn't
look scheduled anytime soon yeah he played he played football growing up until he switched
over to basketball and one of the things you can look for, like in all of the
Georgia athletes, that's why I was able to ask that guy about track. One of the guys that like
most of the guys that are very fast, I mean, it's common sense. They were also probably track
athletes. But when you see somebody explosive like Anthony Edwards, LeBron, AI, all of them have a football background.
That's where their vertical comes from a lot of times.
So I think they already knew that, just like you said.
And that's why they put that in the contract.
Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniels explains the story of how he met his wife.
So when he used to coach another team,
one of his running backs was dancing with the girl and he told the player, listen, you're not
dancing with her anymore, or you're not playing with this team next year. Then McDaniels starts
dancing with her. Eventually four years later, they are now married. So thoughts on him sharing that story and just the meeting to begin with. You talking about using your power.
Paul's like, at a time like this, that's not a good story.
Niggas using their power to take girls.
Yo, how much hate is that, killer?
Or is it just I got a better plan for her?
Which one is it?
Nah, that shit is some wild ass hating.
Because, man, look.
What if the GM tells you that while you're dancing with her?
Yeah, you're right.
You're not.
Yo, I'm not.
You ain't going to dance with her no more.
You fired tomorrow.
It trickles down.
Yeah. You trickles down. Yeah.
You trickle down.
Yeah, you're right.
It trickles down.
What I take from her is I take, you know, I go back to the movie Scarface.
She don't want to fuck with the help.
So whoever's the next matchup, she might leave you for the GM,
might leave the GM for the owner. Listen, this
girl left the running back because he said,
yo,
you ain't playing, nigga. If I don't dance
with her, marry her, have kids
with her,
it's fucked up on her part as well.
I'm going to say both of them
is wild, but I think that's
wild sucker shit
that that coach did that. Now, look, sometimes it works out. It is what it is. I think that's wild sucker shit that that coach did that.
Now, look,
sometimes it works out.
It is what it is.
I don't know how true
the whole
James Hart and Kelly Oubre story is,
but
if it is,
it ain't coaching
and players
kind of play it a player,
but, hey,
sometimes it works out.
They build a family.
That's all I got to say.
As far as the original hate,
yeah, hate, cutthroat,
suckershit, motherfucking
take your job and take your
girl's wife.
And another
thing is this. You got to think
about moving forward when he
marries her, when that player comes back over.
Does he think he's still got
a shot?
Because she was dancing with me.
The whole thing about it at this point,
we don't really know because this wasn't
when he was in the NFL. This is when he was with some
other league. This has
to disrupt the locker room. It has to disrupt the locker room.
It has to disrupt
management, ownership,
everything.
He probably was out of there
before the season was over.
Like, yo,
this thing ain't gonna just
take my shorty,
bring it to the games,
and tell me I'm not playing
on top of that
because we don't even know
about the situation
where he threatened
not to play him
unless he stopped
dancing with him.
We don't know what happened to him.
He might not have been getting no burn.
She might have been a lot of fucking mental torture for him.
We don't know.
We got to dig deeper into the story to find out how this played out.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving along to the Spurs,
although they got number one draft pick victor one benyama
they have lost 11 straight games how do you feel about that
we gotta stop building these people up you know this is what the nba been doing for years at least
i've been watching basketball and it used to be dope because the stars would always
show up when they needed to show up
and players would also play the game.
when you
advertise, and I hate
doing this shit because
I remember they did to me and I was like,
damn, they can say I'm old, but I just
can't help it because I've seen it.
When the NBA markets are spectacular, man.
Michael Joy, spectacular, man.
Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, spectacular.
The Pistons, spectacular.
John Moran, when you tell me you got a new John Moran,
you tell me you got Zion, you know, LeBron James when he came, Carmelo Anthony.
They promote these stars
and you
anticipate wanting to see the stars.
So when you got Zion
out for
over 100 games in three
seasons, it's disappointing.
When you got John Moran, he's injured
from time to time and then you start the
year off with a 25 gameant, he's injured from time to time, and then you start the year off with a 25-game suspension.
It's disappointing.
And a lot of people want to come see these stars.
Back to the Spurs, Victor Wembe is not cheating the game.
Anything, like I said, anybody else was,
they're not getting injuries or cheating the game.
He's just not living up to that superstar quality
that we were expecting to see.
Mace made up a great point last time we talked about him.
His numbers are saying that he's doing great,
but the eye test as looking at a superstar
is when I actually watched the game,
and it was like, damn, damn bro this last game against
the last game I watched I should say
against Golden State
and Gary Payton Jr. punched
this shit to the third row like yo
why is Gary Payton Jr.
punching this shit to the third row
then a lot of times he's looking
like a daisical
I'm not sure if he's getting burnt out
early to the point where Pop even had to call him
and say, yo, what's going on?
Before the game, Pop was there,
just have fun, don't be too much stress,
but the middle of the game,
I think Pop's seeing a lackluster performance.
And I'm not talking about number one,
I'm talking about effort-wise.
Effort looked lackluster.
And like I said, I don't know how they play in Paris
or where you played at before this
but you could tell um his effort is not being night in and night out for me not to be the
superstar they're trying to make them and be yeah you made a lot of great points and especially the
lackluster attitude i think it's a difference for for wimby of being a hunted, you know, like when he was in the Paris League or wherever he was playing.
He was more so the person hunting the NBA. Now that he's in the NBA, he's the hunted.
He's the person that everybody wants to make their best game against.
They want to show that he doesn't belong. And I think he got it.
He got to switch his mentality. Another thing that I think he gotta he gotta switch his mentality another thing
that I saw with them losing 11 games it's only three of those teams that they should have beat
they lost to I got the list here they lost to the Nuggets I mean they about to lose to the Nuggets
so that's going to make it 12 in a row but since then they lost to the Warriors, the Clippers twice, the Kings, the Thunder, the Heat, the Timberwolves.
Nobody they should have beat in that list.
They shouldn't have beat the Pacers, not even the Knicks.
I mean, you could say they should have beat the Raptors or probably the Grizzlies.
But other than that, they were not supposed to win any of those games.
So I think that would be an unrealistic expectation of them,
especially with the team that's on his roster.
Now, who knows?
They make the three-way trade and get Jordan Poole over there.
They might be talking about something.
Yeah, I agree.
That list you gave is pretty much correct.
They shouldn't be.
But effort is another thing for me.
Just showing the lack of effort.
Like I said, I haven't seen all the games you named,
but I guess Golden State, it was terrible.
It was really terrible.
Yeah.
And lastly.
And he had about 26 points, but it was a 20.
That's what I'll be talking about when you get so many shot attempts and so much of the offense is going through you.
You're taking a lot of offense away from other good players to get the numbers that you're
getting.
So I definitely agree with Cam on that.
And before we close the show, got got to talk about the nba and season tournament so the
bracket is finally formulating the lakers and the pacers are undefeated in their games and have made
it to the knockout round so i have a list of some of the upcoming games most of them are on tuesday
kind of want to get you guys's prediction to close out so one of the first ones, the Bucs versus the Heat. Who do you see winning? The Bucs.
Don't start that Miami stuff, Stab.
For real.
I'm going with the Bucs off the strength of Stab Baby fans.
Telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
The Bucs.
Okay.
Hawks versus Cavs.
Oh, that's a goodie.
That's a goodie. Donovan
and
Homeboy versus
Trey Young and Murray.
But I got to go ATL. I got to go
ATL. Cam going to go Ohio.
You going to go
Ohio? I'm definitely going Cleveland, man. Shout out to Trey. Trey going to go Ohio you going to go Ohio definitely going Cleveland man
shout out to Trey
Trey going to have 40
and my young
going to have 30
okay
Raptors versus Nets
I don't think I care about that game
I don't even know
who's playing besides Dennis Smith Jr.
Yeah, my bad.
Dennis Smith Jr., we going with the Nets.
Shout out to Dennis Smith.
Okay.
Hornets versus Knicks.
Ooh.
I'm going with Hornets.
I'm going with the Knicks.
Knicks aren't looking half bad this year.
No, don't get crazy, y'all.
Don't get crazy, Nick.
And the young goat.
You got the young goat.
You say that shit, and you say, yo, the Knicks looking good.
Yeah, Kim, see us?
He says, yo, relax.
Relax.
Look at Tito, and look at Sid.
They going crazy. He going to take Tito and look at Sin going crazy.
He gonna take his clip and
repost it. I'm going with
LaMelo. They got the young
boy back. They got the gangster
rapper back at Miles Bridges.
They got the young goat.
You know, they looking good.
I'm going with LaMelo ball
on them. Okay. The Bulls
versus the Celtics.
Celtics. Celtics. Celtics There's three more
The Thunder versus the Timberwolves
That's a goodie
I'm going with Ant-Man
Ant-Man when you dunk on him
Do what Killer said
Take the shoe off man
Go viral.
Yeah, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with, this is a goodie.
I'm actually going to sit down and watch this game.
I want to see Ant-Man against Shea.
So I'm going to go with the Timberwolves,
but I told you last time this is another situation.
I'm not going to say it's Steph Curry,
but you know niggas is like Ant-Man is one of them niggas.
Ant-Man be like, yo, he first team all NBA?
This is a battle of egos right here.
So I'm going to actually sit down
and watch this game in entirety.
Even if we're working and not working,
I'm going to record the game
because I want to see Nick's attitude.
But I'm going to go with the Timberwolves for now.
Okay.
The Rockets versus the Mavs.
The Mavs on Dallas.
You crazy?
Kyrie, shout out to Shamguard.
And Kyrie and Luke are the Disney assassins.
A small upset, man.
I think Dallas is a better team.
I think this is an in-state game.
And I think that the coach, I want to say his name on the alarm,
baby father and all that,
is going to amp them niggas up to win this game.
He's done a great job with Van Fleet and them.
Yeah.
They got Green down there.
He just won a championship.
They got some good veterans.
Look, they got down there.
They got good veterans, and they got people with shit to prove.
Look, we got niggas clowning niggas for their off-season activities,
missionary position and all that.
Then we got, like I said, the coach got something to prove.
You got championship credibility with Green. You got Dylan Brooks down there just being Dylan Brooks.
And they got Van Fleet, right?
Yeah, yeah, another champion.
So I think they have a good balance down
there. I'm going to think they're going to pull
the upset off. Do I think that Houston
is better than Dallas? Absolutely
not. But I'm going with Houston
for this game.
That was very OJ-ish, Cam.
Look,
I'm just following protocol
for this show. Is this what y'all doing?
Is this what y'all doing?
I'm just following protocol.
That's it, man.
That's all I'm doing.
One of the last games is the Warriors versus the Kings.
I'm going to go with the
Kings. I think
they're
starting to play very good basketball. Warriors
caught them early in the season. I don't think
they want to lose again. I think
that the Warriors don't win this.
The Kings are one of them teams that kind of
want to win this in-season tournament one of them teams that kind of want to win this
in-season tournament.
Just to say that they got something underneath
their belt moving
forward for us.
But I think that by the time
the real players come around, if they have to match
up again, Steph Curry and them will be ready.
This week, I'm going with the
Kings over Golden State.
Yeah, I'm going with the Kings as well.
I was going to say, I never thought I would see the day where I would say that
Monk is as productive as Klay Thompson.
Klay, if you're listening to this, it's time, bro.
It's time.
It's time to get in your bag.
Because right now, niggas are saying you and Monk is on the same level right now.
Not where you used to be today.
Niggas is putting Monk past you, Clay.
And I don't like that for you.
I'm serious.
I don't like that for you.
So I will put the Kings past them.
And I think if they beat them this time in the playoffs, they're going to beat them again because last year they were very close
to beating this Golden State team, and that's with Poole and everybody else.
So I think this year is a breakout year for the Kings,
and they're going to do something about it.
We're going to see the Warriors break up this year
if Klay don't get it together.
Yeah, Monk wearing a dunking on niggas
or a type of shit.
He been acting real stupid, man.
It ain't just the Deion Fox show.
Monk really been acting crazy.
He been taking off on niggas, I know a lot too.
I thought about that.
I said, I never thought I'd say this,
but I got Monk a little past
Klay right now. Even
when I watched Golden State
against the Spurs, it was
a stretch where Klay missed
five straight shots, one of them
hit the three, missed. They
get the offensive rebound, pass it to him,
shoot, miss again, go to
the other end of the court. He comes back there and tries to
shoot a left, misses. I was like, damn tried to shoot a little missy it was i was
like damn he needs to pass the ball and i don't really wouldn't say that usually about clay
thompson um time is not as fun contract year is coming up and uh doesn't look good for him to get
the max or maybe a free agent but i think golden state of work signed out but for him to get what
he wants to get with Golden State,
I have to be amazed.
Tom is not your friend, bro. It's almost Christmas.
Yeah. And the worst
thing to see is a person
with perfect form missing.
You know how niggas had a perfect form
but it ain't going in? It's like, what do you do
if your form is perfect
and it's not going in?
Falls, that's crazy.
What is it at that point?
It's confidence, right?
Mental.
It's mental.
His form is perfect.
And then on top of that, his form might be perfect,
but his legs, balls may not be the legs he used to be.
You get to lift off the ground that he used to have.
That's why the best shooters are shooters.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I do this day, you know.
Chauncey Billups.
Languishing injuries.
Yeah.
Yeah, get it together, Clay.
We rooting for you, man.
So this time.
We gonna pray for you. Yeah. So this time. We're going to pray for you.
Yeah, it's Sunday.
We're praying for Clay.
This time I wrote down y'all's answers.
So when Tuesday after the games are done,
we can compare and see if you guys were correct or not.
So we don't have to hold the tape.
So that'll be good.
In the comments.
Yeah.
In the comments, let us know which in-season tournament game you're most
excited to see because we know we'll be watching so we hope y'all are too that's all the time we
have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is it is what it is
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