IT IS WHAT IT IS - NO MORE UNDEFEATED TEAMS, MICHAEL IRVIN FEELIN' HIS COWBOYS & CJ STROUD IS WILDIN'!

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

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including Georgia, Texas, and Missouri. So make sure you all support the show. Lock in your bonus and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be back. And today we are joined with both of our analysts. We got Michael Irvin and Arabia. Doing great. Thank you. Happy to be here. How am I? How are you? I am doing well, Arabia. And I wanted, I've been looking, looking for you. You notice she wouldn't I show up where I didn't see her when it was Marriota at quarterback. But the day when the man got back, all of us said she wants to pop on up.

You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I did. I did get it. I'm seeing my quarterback. I'm okay with that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you ain't been looking too hard. I'd be right here every week. Every week. Hey, y'all see, I got this red on. You know why I'm wearing this red?

Because that cowboy office is red hot. So I just put on red. So let me, let me, let me ask, both of y'all a question real quick. And I know we're going to get into it in a few minutes. But who's the best quarterback in the NFC East, man? Jalen hurts what he better i like i like daniel's better than hurts who said that is arabia you did not say that you did you watch your game today yes i watched today's game i watched the eagles game i watched the commanders game

cowboys giants loss of the saints jaylon hers is the best quarterback in the nsts no no no no jaylan hurts may have the best team around him him, but he's not the best quarterback. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just because what they did today, what Denver did today to him, I will explain to everyone. And you got to look for people to start doing that more often to Jalen Hurst. So we'll see. I think that press, not just the NFC East.

Right now, Dak is playing the best quarterback in the NFL just about, not just the NFC East. So certainly not Jailen Hurts for me. And I'm not just saying that because he is my quarterback. But, but, Cam, you saw, I sent you that video, the video of that beating Michael Parsons. That's what, that's that next level of quarterback, of quarterbacking. Okay, even if my line can't block them, I can beat them with my, with my ability, with my shoulders up. I can see the open man before the man becomes open.

What Tom Brady used to do all the time, that is doing that. I don't see Jalen Hurts doing that. The thing about it is, Mike, real quick, Mike. before Arabia goes, is that me and Mike text all the time. Like, that's, you know, that's my big bro. I love Mike. And we go back and forth all the time. When he sent me that text, I didn't text you back

because you can't manipulate me with that. I didn't even respond to me. I usually respond to all your texts. I didn't even respond to that, Mike. You're not going to manipulate me with that video, you said. I knew what you was trying to do. But see, I wasn't sure if that was because you got knocked down at the Miami game

and you got a little concussion. I wasn't sure if that was part of the reason. Mike, what the fuck is going on for Arabia? God, then I'm going to get to Miami afterwards because I know you're still discussing the quarterback. I got to ask him a couple of things about this whole Miami situation. But I'm Arabia. Let's just be very clear about what we're talking about. If you're saying the best quarterback in the NFC overall, it's Jalen Hertz.

Winning has to account for something. And I said it before on my platform, I'll say it here. If you have the luxury of hiring a nanny and hiring a chauffeur and hiring a chef, that doesn't make you a bad parent because you have the luxury of doing all these things and you don't have to do it all yourself. Jalen Hurst doesn't have to do it all himself. He's concerned more about winning than whatever those stat sheet says. Now, if you're talking about this season, as much as I want to be a hater in a minute-to-minute

with it, I'll probably be a hater in a few minutes. that Prescott is playing phenomenal football this season through five weeks that Prescott looks great so if we're saying in 2025 through five weeks I'll say that Prescott but if we're saying overall and that's all we were asking about already don't don't don't know no no no no we're talking about right now we ain't told my last year we ain't talking about next year we talked right now yes we are yes we all I said the same thing about Patrick Mahomes last season I said Joe Burrow is playing a better game than Patrick Mahomes last season.

Everybody jumped down in Rabia's throat, pause. It said, how could you, Patrick Mahomes, ah, I, I, I, uh, so if we're season to season with a, yeah, Dak, I'm cool with that. We're talking about right now, Arabia, who's the best quarterback in the NFC? He's not overall over the years through five weeks of football. Who's the best quarterback? Get that out. Jack Prescott is playing a great game.

I'm not going to say. Hey, cut this and send me this clip. Now look, Mike Jack is playing good. Now, hold on, because I know we got to get to the topic. What's going on with Miami week after week? It seems like you make more highlight real film week after week with Miami than the players. You're outshining the players at this point, Mike. Every week, something's new, whether you're DJing, whether you're winding the bell up,

this week you got tackled every week you are making more highlight film than Miami tell me exactly what is your role there I know you say you're not getting paid this your alma model we all know that we all know that

the you status or we understand that we get it exactly are you living something like are you going when you get there you feeling like this is what I used to do what is the purpose week after week there

We see him more of you than the players. You know, most guys my age go through these crisis, midlife crisis. They go get all these nice cars and, you know, convertibles and drive around. I had that when I was very young. So it can't help me get over my midlife by my crisis, right? But being on that football field is everything. It's everything. You know what I mean?

It makes me feel young again being around those dudes. Now listen, when those dudes came at me the other day, dude, I was sitting. Oh, God, here they come. Like, I thought about it. I said, I could try to move out the way and run, but I'll probably pull a hammock. You know what I'm saying? I didn't want to pull a hammock.

So I said, just take this. And, man, they came, man. Them dudes were heavy, but I bounced right back up like a champ. I bounced right back up, got back up, got back up, and got right back here in the game, got my guys back here in the game. I have to tell people because people keep seeing on the side, Michael, we need you here. You're our good luck charm, and I'm with you on this camp.

Stop all that good luck charm stuff. This ain't nothing about, this is about, this is about, I have to tell him that. Stop all that good luck stuff. This is about the hard work, Mario Cristobal, and his staff is putting in with these kids every day at Green Tree Practice Field. He deserves all the credit. I'm just that guy up in there. I'm like a mascot. I'm like the most expensive rich mascot they ever have.

With those boys, man. But that was a great, incredible game. Because Florida State, they gave us some scare down towards the end of that game right there. Yeah, and you know what's crazy? You just mentioned out of staff and everybody is doing anything and everything. And stats, like, yeah.

Number one, Carson Beck Hater. Okay, coming into the season. You know. Things change. You know, number one, yo. Y'all don't like him. Because she was black-de-black, black, black with Ken Ward there. And then y'all the white quarterback,

and now things change. You was hate instead. Please don't start. Mike is loyal. Things change. Mike was loyal all all summer and everything else. And my last thing before we get to the topics is this. Now I think it's changed.

My last thing that you are to my nigga Mike is, hold on, I had it right here so I wouldn't even forget. It's that before, I got the clip saved up, so don't even argue me about it. You was like, yo, when the 49ers played the Rams, Mac Jones was averaging 275 yards. It won't happen this week. It won't happen this week.

342 yards. I hope we get to that game and we have time to talk about it because you're 100% wrong. You're trying to tell me I was wrong and my point was right and you was wrong about it. So hopefully we have time to get to that.

Definitely wrong. And that does look good. We'll talk about that. I want to talk about that too. Yeah, we'll have time to get to that. We'll have time to talk about the commanders and the Cowboys. But first we're going to start with these first two teams

because there are no more undefeated teams left in the NFL right now. I know Cam just gone on me about Miami like he didn't. wear an Eagles hat. And then I said, don't let them lose that next game. What happened? The Eagles lost that next game, a game that a lot of people didn't expect.

No. You said the same thing about Drake Browning, and that did not go as expected. No, but it's at the very next day, you see me in the field practicing. You see me with my Bengals helmet. You see me with my Bengals socks, my jersey, and I was in the field actually practicing. I said, I can't do this. It didn't even feel right. Don't try and act like it took me less than 24 hours to get back with the Bengals.

No, we don't talk about it. was on here for that too. So I think this will be a lovely discussion. So we're going to start with the Eagles. They got their first loss of the season after losing to the Broncos 21-17. Arabia, going to let you go first, then Mike, then Cam. Arabia, is this the team that you expected to hand them that loss? And then how did you feel about the game? Yeah, the Broncos have a phenomenal defense from complementary football with the front four and that secondary, then playing off each other. So this isn't a bad loss for the Eagles at all. This is a really good Broncos team, Knicks in that same draft class as a Drake May and a Jaden Daniels, all who won their games

yesterday. But no, this is a good Broncos team. Also, about the Eagles. This team reminds me of the 23 Eagles where they went 10 and 1 in the beginning of the season, but we saw flaws in their game. But because they were winning, winning mass problems, and they ended the season like one in five or something like that. I want to make sure that the Eagles don't repeat that same pattern where they're kind of squeaking through games, special teams here, a block field goal here and there. But when November hits and better teams are playing their best version of football, that the Eagles are prepared for those cold winter months when real football is being played. So I don't want the same thing to happen.

Go in 10 and 1 have a great beginning of the season and then ending in a landslide. But Cam, let's get back to you. If anybody in the studio has any Cowboys gear for Cam, to wear so that he can show his support for the cowboys because there's a pattern you went hard for the bangles ohio ohio ohio you went hard for the eagles now you on the eagles i didn't go hard for the eagles but i think you did i think he went hard for the eagles you said you got you got the hat on you know you you on the eagles train now i need you to be on the cowboys train because when you support these teams publicly things go south so now i need that come i need that cowboy stuff listen

Nick, Nick, do you got my video? Obviously, they didn't see my video. You got my video still loaded up in there. Please show them my video real quick. Because I don't think, I don't see it, baby. You come on one day and we got to get you on more days a week so you can actually see what I did the very, very next day after I put that Eagles hat on.

I only put that Eagles hat on. I had in the stash because Mace was pissing me off. Mace kept trying to tease me about the Bengals to Bengals, and he always switched teams. You got it? All right, look, the very next day, I don't know if you've seen this. Arabia, but after, Mike, I don't know if you've seen it.

Well, good, we're going to play it again. So therefore, you can say after I want the Eagles hat, this is what I did the next day. Nick, please. I don't know if you've seen this, Mike. Going to get Browning out of there. And Dak took this from me. What's up, man?

What's up, man? Let's go. Dipsack! Dipsack! Kyi! Tell him. What you're talking about? What you're talking about?

I'm talking about, Arabia, helmet, socks, gear. I'm trying to get Browning out of there if need be. I told him I'll fallback if they got Shadour and made a move. What are you talking about? I went hard. I wore a little hat one day and that was it. Mike, she always, this is what I'm talking about. She always pushed the guy and get up, man.

Got to get up, go ahead, man. I don't know through that on over. Yeah, yeah, but now listen, and you guys, and we're talking about the Eagles, and Arabia is trying to drop it in. Like, I don't want this to happen as if, I don't know. He just forgot how to win.

No, they didn't forget how to win when they went 10 and 1 and then 1 in 5. They got somebody figuring it all out. Like what Denver did today, they presented something new. Denver in the first half ran all-man coverage because they felt very comfortable with their cornerbacks matching up with those wide receivers. Devonte Smith had a great game and kept the Eagles in the game. But that second, that third quarter, they changed defenses. You know, okay, they started junking it up. That means putting everybody in the line of scrimmage.

Everybody's in the line of scrimmage. And what does your boy do Jalen Hurst? He checks out of the run. Once you check out of the run, then they all back up and play zone. And Jalen Hurst could not find anyone open because now all seven defense of bats, all seven DBs. on safeties and linebacking are all looking at him. He can't thread those needles.

That's what happened then. That's what happened today. That brings about a problem. Now, if Seqon's running the ball great and you got to stack that line of scrimmage and you give him one-on-one outside all day anyway, now he can make plays because he throws the ball up and Devonte Smith went and got it,

AJ Brown will go and get her. But when they start junking it up, It causes a problem for Jalen Hurts. And I get wrong to you this. You will see this for the next few weeks, them junking it up and then pulling out. And then backing out. Let me see it that way before I have to pause, all that.

And then backing out, you know, backing out, which gives Jalen Hurts an issue. Why? Because he can't beat you, shoulders up with a quick passing game, like a Dak Prescott does. Like a Paco. Like the Joe Burrow does, like the Joe Burrow does. Like the Joe Burroughs.

Yeah, there you go. Same thing Tom Brady used to do. That's the issue right there with Jalen Hurst. When it comes to, you got to win just throwing the ball. He can't win just throwing the ball. Now, he can if it's one-on-one coverage all day. But if it's not one-on-one coverage and they're giving you a different, the disguising those coverages and dropping back playing zone,

it becomes a difficult thing. I watched AJ Brown run a four pump. That's when you go in, you run an en route, and then you take it up. He was wide open. He slowed down. He slowed down because he didn't believe Jalen Hurts was going to get that ball. Now, Jalen threw the ball. If he had kept running, maybe he would have caught that ball.

But I wouldn't have stopped running because I know Troy going to throw the ball. I'm dependent on it. I know it. I trust it. A.J. Brown didn't trust it. And he slowed up. That's something to look at and think about it. I'm telling you, ain't no way in the water receiver.

You weren't even touching a lot of passes. Why would you stop and slow down? That's because he didn't have faith and what they were doing. I'm telling you, watch this and they better be careful that they don't hit that slide that they hit that you talked about earlier, Arabia. Hey, Mike, you know what's crazy?

I'm glad you pointed that out, because that was great inside receiver knowledge because I've seen what you're talking about. And I was like, I know this nigga not powin. It looked like he was just gave up on the play until you just explained it. And because, you know, of all the talk, all the shit that was going on with AJ Brown last week and all the comments he made, we're not playing about. Because a couple of plays, I was just taking it as, is this nigga playing games?

Is he not disinterested? Because the exact play you talking about, I know exactly what you're talking about. And I was like, this nigga's not even going to run. He looks like he's not interested. But you're pointing out basically saying Jalen Hurst ain't even like that. make this though so what the fuck am i going to keep running for is that what you just said yeah and it ain't i'm saying it it's him saying it okay he's in the road well every day he eats he sleeps he's number two and he's everything with him he's everything with him and he still saying i don't know if we can

get it there you know what i mean i never would have stopped on that ball if that's troydman i know twos going and and what i would do when you make that poor route in you come in and that safety bite now you go up the field. You dig deep. You just dig and run, run, run. And then you don't, and then you look up. You don't even look back. AJ Brown was looking back. Like, where that chump at? What did I do that? You instead of looking up, the ball's up here. You shouldn't even be able to see him throwing the ball. That's how off that situation is when they're confused about what's going on in the coverages. So they have to synchronize and get on the same page. So now we're going to talk about the bills because they got handed their first loss versus the Patriots 23 to 20.

Another unexpected loss for the bills, a lot of people would say. So Arabia, what do you think went wrong for the bills? And then, Mike, you can go. I wouldn't even necessarily go as far as to say what went wrong for the bills. But if I did point something out, there's something to be said when you can create pressure with your front floor. Ed Oliver is out. And so they blitz a lot more this game, which didn't necessarily affect Drake May and the way that I think they hope to. because Drake May was still completing passes in those situations.

Also, the Patriots have surpassed. They've gone through their Tom Brady dynasty area. They kind of had a slump. Thought they had something with Matt Jones, had a slump. And now they're sort of resurfacing, not as Super Bowl dynasty contenders again, but passing Miami in that division. Right now they're 2 in the AFC East.

The bills have lost their first regular season home game in about two years. Last time they lost at home was 2023. was 2023. That's a very hostile environment to go into, especially if you're in the division. The Patriots have won back-to-back games, beaten back-to-back teams for the first time in a couple of years. So I wouldn't say that the bills should be panicking. This was more so like the Patriots being like, hey, we're building in the off-season. They made some really great moves, and they're serving as a reminders to that division that, you know, everybody has to be honest. And I think it was a really great game. I had the Patriots winning this game, not just because at all of

was out but because I've seen the progress that they made in the off season and through four weeks now five weeks of football and and what she's saying she's right because you got to give Mike Vrable some credit here he is a beast of a coach Mike Vrable he has that Belichick thing in where you know he knows how to play and set up a defense to cause issues for uh for Josh Allen and And also, you got a, the real reason they lost today, telling about Buffalo, was Cardi B. Cardi B baby daddy. That's what that was. Saudi me, baby, dad.

That's my baby daddy. You know what I'm thinking. Stefan Diggs, that's what that was. Stefan Diggs wanted to make sure he get his get back at Buffalo. And Stefan, think about this, guys. I've always said this, too. Stefan Dings is such a great receiver for a young quarterback. He's the one to help bring Josh Allen over, and now he's going to do the same for Drake May because he never stops in his routes.

And he's always adding on to a route. And Drake May has the ability to move around and run. A lot of those plays they made when they were blitzing like Rayby was talking about, he got out the pocket, started running, and somehow found Carter B, baby daddy. And that's what did it. That's how they lost that game. because Stefan Diggs played so great. And I got to give him credit to it. I watched him afterwards in the interview, you know,

because Mike Vrable has kind of said, I need you to be my leader. And he did a great job interviewing with Drake, with Drake May and Ramando Stevenson after the game. He sounds very, very mature, like he's really leading his team. And, yeah, I'm with you on that, Arabia. New England is going to shock a lot of people, because they're going to play hard, they're going to play smart,

and they won't make mistakes. And that was a division game. You know, they know Buffalo very well, and that's how they were able to cause all those turnos. Yeah, Mike, I was going straight to Stefan Diggs, bro. Stefan Diggs, you could just see the energy. Of course, he'd want to go back there because there was a bunch of shit that last year,

when you sit there and say, okay, he left the bills. What is Josh Allen going to do? oh, just win the MVP, that's what he's going to do. So, you know, they're basically saying, we don't know what Josh Allen's going to do without him. And he gets hurt last year and he doesn't finish the season. You could see the intensity on Stefan Diggs' face

or how much he really wanted to win this game. Not just that, the catches he was making, like, I'm a Stefan Diggs fan, but not like that. But after yesterday, like that, he was looking like a top three receiver. The catchers that and the toe-tack. that he was catching going out of bounds. And then not just that.

Shout to Drake May because he was extending plays as well. When he was rolling right, it was like he was unstoppable. He's stiff arm and lineman 330 pounds. Drake May look really, yeah, he looked really, really good. And there's a lot of times where I'm like, he's going to throw this away or he's going to get sack and he found Stefan Diggs. And not only found Stefan Diggs, Stefan Diggs put yards after the catch on a bunch of them throws as well.

Not only acrobatic throws out of bounds, so on and so forth, the yards after the catch, he looked really amazing. And not only that, you can see, not saying he was happier, you can't see a smile or anything, but you seen the glare in Josh Daniels face. You said, yeah, I might got another nigger. You know Josh Daniels been Tom Brady forever, and then you're sitting there getting the right,

not the right quarterback, night the right quarterback, and now you may have the right quarterback. You know, we've got a long way to go for. We can start on Tom Brady shit. But Josh Daniels looked really excited to have a drink made out there. So like you said, Mike and Arabia, this was important because not just that, you know, Buffalo Bill's

been the Cremdella Criminal Division. It looked like somebody got something to say about that. Shout to the New England Patriots. No, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, I think it's worth mentioning Hunter Henry because when you have a solid tight end and Hunter Henry is really getting things going this season,

that also can positively change the dynamic of your offense. If you have a titan that can receive the ball and that can get his hands dirty with the big guys, that absolutely adds another dynamic layer to your offense. So Hunter Henry is also somebody who we should be put in the spotlight on for this Patriots offense. Yeah. I was just going to add really quick. I just think that this was a great win also for the Patriots because it just adds confidence back to their team. Because I think a lot of people wrote them off for this game before even watching it.

I think a lot of people were like, oh, Patriot's Bill is. Okay, we already know how that's going to go. Let's just move on to the next. So I think that they had a lot to prove and I'm happy that they were able to finish the job. Because even just throughout the game, we saw a lot of issues that the bills had because in that first half, for the first time since 2015, they had eight penalties and two turnovers. And you kind of seen it dwindling down as the game was going. And even when they did tie at that fourth quarter, Patriots coach made sure to keep the team really poised intact to make sure that they finish strong rather than giving up quick because we've seen also how that has turned the tables for other teams. So good Patriots win.

And like Mike said, even in the postgame interview, the way Stefan Diggs was talking about his quarterback and just making sure the team, you know, remain together, remain calm, but also built up his teammates and himself while doing that. It just looked good overall. So I'm happy for the Patriots and they have that next game overseas. So we'll see how that goes for them. So the next game we're going to talk about is the Bucks. So they're four and one after being the Seahawks, 38 to 35. Arabia, how important do you think this game was for the Bucks? I thought it was very important for them to be able to play another NFC team that can really be sneaky and play really good teams very, very well.

The Bucks showed themselves once again that they are able to pull out wins and they're able to beat teams in their conference and play these really big games when need be. I just want to give credit to a Mecca Egbuka, this Ohio State receiver who in the absence of a Chris Godwin or in the absence, of a Mike Evans is able to not just step up, but he is nice. A mecha and Bugha is 100% having one of the best rookie seasons in the NFL. Him and Baker Mayfield have an amazing connection. And I don't think this offense is as successful as it is without him. Again, because for some reason, the Bucks is one of those teams that's just plagued with injuries season after season.

This was a very important win for the Bucks, not just to stay on top of, you know, have a good record in the NFC, but just to show themselves that they can pull out. these really big wins in their conference as well. Yeah, and you're absolutely right about Mike Evans and Godwin about to be was that Willie Pipp. You remember that Willie Pelt was the guy that played all the time until he got hurt one day and Cal Ripkin Jr. got in and he never got a job back. That was it.

He was the Iron Man. Cal Ripon never gave back. They better get back fast because a Mech on Bucho don't look like he's giving that job back at all he came up with 163 yards today i mean he's a legit down the field threat and run all you just run all the routes and with baker mayfield and that moxie that baker gets baker wants a guy they can go up the field man that was an incredible game all both of those quarterbacks who got drafted uh together one and two really battled today that that was probably the best game of the day for me because they were

went back and forth, back and forth. I think they scored like five, six touchdowns in a row. Each team taking turns, scoring. But yeah, that was a phenomenal game. And, yeah, though every game Tampa has played, every game Tampa has won, it has been a close game down to the wire. They win late.

That's going to bowl well for them as they go through the season. So Tampa is a team to watch out for it. Let's make a mic, yo. Last week, it was only a field goal. They only won by a field goal. If this didn't happen and that didn't happen, then they wouldn't have won. Then they were the one.

Now, Mike, you, yo, week to week, I don't know who I'm talking to, week to week with you. Week to week with you, Mike. Every week is something different with you, man. I tell you this, like, you know, listen, stay right wrong. I say, yo, special teams. I remember what team he's talking about? I said, special teams.

all that matters. You're like, well, if they didn't block the field goal, they're only one by a field goal, this, that third. Now you praise in a three point win. Which one is it, Mike? They only one by three or it's no big deal. Yo, you're all, go ahead, man. Go ahead, Mike.

You're too inconsistent, man. If you can consistently win close games, then I got to give it to you that you have that. But if you're lucking up winning one here, one there, one here, one over there. Then you just, that's different. But this team has consistently this year continue to win in these close games like this. And I don't know if these games do not be close when Mike Evans get back. You see what I'm saying?

Here we go with the good back. They will take a step back when Mike Evans get back or try to take over. But right now, yeah, you got to give him credit for winning close games and throw him for 3709 yards. I don't think he had four or five, I don't think he had like five or six incompletions. Now, this was probably the best game for me. I agree with you. I think this was the best game of the day. But I just heard something you say,

you don't know if they're going to take a step back when Mike Evans get back. Is Dowler going to take a step back when C.D. Lamb get back? Well, but no, no, because there's no doubt. Yes or no, Mike. Mike, yes and no. See, see, let me tell you what I'm saying. And already you just said it.

So, okay, so today, it wasn't George Pickens that was the top receiver. It was a flower now. what's out there I pronounce his name it was another receiver so since we're bouncing around receivers you're bouncing around top receivers waiting on the number one but emmeco is he is the number one right now for for tampa so now when mike evans get back you got to try to work him back in or work mike evans back in or tell him mecca he's not going to get the plays that he's got something like that you're not going to have to do that in dallas you're not going because

george pickings one week played well or ferguson played well the next week. So they're bouncing around to the number one guy. They haven't pointed out the number one guy. Ameco Obuka has been the number one guy for Tampa, and they've been winning. We're doing great. So now that's an adjustment to take Mike Evans back.

If y'all are winning, bouncing around number one receivers, y'all have a couple ones this weekend. Y'all beating up on the judge. I don't really even count that shit. If you're bouncing around and you're having a warming formula, why stop doing that? I'm not saying y'all have a zero record, y'all are figuring it out. But if that system is working for y'all, why stop doing that and just go to CDLand?

When he gets back. What do you mean what's up doing? No, no, no, you're not trying to stop doing it. You're solidifying it. See, the difference, what makes the number one, number one over a number two or number three is the number one is your most reliable dependent receiver. And that's what C.D. Lamb is. Now, that's what Mike Evans has been for Tampa.

And now we're looking at another reliable number one receiver. That's why I said it was George Pickens one week and then it's somebody else for next week. And even George Pickens said 57 yards a day, but he still dropped the slant that could have gone for another 60 yards. You see what I mean? So that's what I'm saying. When you're moving around, we're finding ways to win with other players. But Tampa has been very directed with the Mecca. all right my nigger i hear you i hate you just heard i mean you know takes change every week so

i'm just looking at me like this nigga yeah we get it we get it we get it all right now i completely agree well uncle mike i really do and i also have to mention the two-headed monster in tampa bay because we talk about sonic and knuckles and detroit and their run game we've kind of sort have touched on Derek, Derek Henry, not having the greatest season. But Bucky Irving and Rashad White technically are two RB ones. And they are, they are both really opening the past game for Baker Mayfield and a Mecca egg buga. So that run game also is a huge factor to even why the past opens up the way that it does. Okay. One more thing, can't count. As the number one receiver, as a number one receiver,

like I am, a number one like CEDA, like Mike Evans is. Remember, they're making all the money. They have a whole office full of people over there. Their job is to go find somebody that can do what you do cheaper, cheaper. They drafted a number one, they draft a receiver in the top two rounds every year I played in Dallas. They're trying to find somebody that could do it cheaper and they just did in Tampa. I'm just seeing that's all I'm saying. Okay.

Well, Mike and Arabia, you guys are agreeing now. We'll see if you guys agree for our next segment because because next out we got the Cowboys game, the Commander's game, and more. We'll see y'all after the break. But she ain't really thinking about she want to be free. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. So today, the Chiefs will play the Jaguars.

Cam Underdog has Xavier Worthy at 52 and a half receiving yards. Do you have them higher or lower? You don't go higher. Okay. Patrick Mahomes is at one and a half passing touchdowns. Do you have them higher or lower? Should be higher. Okay.

And on the jag side, we got Travis Hunter. He's at 27 and a half receiving. yards do you have them higher or lower it's a higher day for underdog man okay let's see what happens y'all make sure you out download the underdog app make sure you make that shit happen man it's the only one it's the only nigger that i don't have faith in in the picks that you said to me even though i know he's not the picks travel lawrence stay more consistent they gave you the fucking bad you're looking decent this year i ain't gonna throw you under the bus you're looking pretty decent get the 27 and a half yards to my nigga Travis hunter you said Trevor lawrence

No, I'm talking to Trevor Lawrence to make sure that he passes. There's receiving yards, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm talking to that nigger. Make sure you get him the fucking passes. I know what the fuck I'm talking to and what I'm talking about. Thank you, though. Thanks, sister.

Trevor Lawrence, get him to 27 yards that he needs to make sure that underdog gets the over, like I said. You feel me, though? I feel you, you guys. He's going with the higher. So let's see if Trevor Lawrence will make it happen for Travis Under. That's that. Okay, make sure you out dial on the underdog app, and you can make your picks too.

So we're going to start with the Cowboys. And for this one, we're going to let Mike go first, Arabia for the second half. So the Cowboys beat the Jets 37 to 22. Mike, how much confidence do you have in the Cowboys right now? I have a great deal of confidence that's putting up 35, 40 points consistently. That's where my confidence is in that press stop.

It's in that office. offense that keeps showing up and making plays today today today they today Cowboys played with four of their starting five offensive linemen out so so you know when I told you a couple days ago a couple weeks ago about how when people are hurt and you get these young guys in and they play well that really bodes well for your team that's what I saw today you got four of your starting office alignment five offensive line and four or five offensive lining out and you play like that you put on a triplets with that press got through for two hundred and like 40 yards and devonte williams went for another 135 and then fly floundore

went for another 114 not that press not not not cd lamb not not pickins not even fergus who is second in and receptions in the nfl right now more receptions at this point in the history of NFL for a tight end you see what i mean so now you're getting other guys starting to make plays and learn and feel good and get that confidence so yeah i like what i see on office now today was the first time that i say oh okay maybe these jokers do have something in them on defense it came up with five sacks today they had five the whole year coming into the game they came up with five sacks today i got to take that with a grain of salt because, you know, it's, it's Justin Fields. Justin Fields isn't going to beat you with the quick game, kind of like what I just said about Jalen Hertz, but I like

that way, I like the way that defense played today, it showed up and played much better than it had been playing all season long, but I wouldn't say I got confidence in them. I just said they played good today. Okay, Arabia. So usually the defense starts off faster than the offense. But that's not the case with the Cowboys this season. The better side of the ball has been the offense. They have started off faster so far this season. But it seems like the defense is starting to at least try to catch up.

Now, if it's the case that this offense can sustain the regular season and be proficient and be efficient and they can avoid injuries, hopefully, and Dak Prescott can continue to play a clean game, and the defense picks up, then yeah, they're going to have a good regular season. But if not, they're going to definitely run into problems because the NFC East plays the NFC North and they play the AFC West. And they play within their division, of course, you know, all the other three teams twice. So if they can get their defense to heat up towards the end of the season, they'll be in good shape.

Another thing, there are five first-time head coaches in the NFL this season. Brian Schottenheimer is trying to make a case for the best one. There's Liam Cohen, there's Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, there's another one, Kellynne Moore. Brian Schottenheimer is trying to prove that he wasn't just hired because of his last name, and people had no faith in him coming into this season. He's really trying to put his foot forward to say, look, I have a handle of this team, I'm leading my men, I'm putting everybody in a position to succeed,

and I think he is a head coach at the end of the season that we can look back, and be like okay he's not just little marty he's not just little shardy little shoddy he's actually doing a good job so he he's a coach that people aren't speaking about a lot but we should keep an eye out for him so jets we analyzing this we analyze and they're playing the jets so we're doing yeah mike let me just ask mike a question that's something that arabia said I don't even know why we even visited this game. I know we had to because Mike is on the show. This shit would not have made the show if Mike was on the show.

It's the fucking Jets, and it's the Cowboys. But let me ask you something. How do you feel about the Cowboys coach? Because you was mad they hired the nigger. You had a whole attitude. You threw a tantrum about the shit, matter of fact, last season. And what wasn't all season? You had a whole attitude about the shit.

You was really mad. How do you feel about this right now? And I was upset because... I was upset with how things had gotten in Dallas. You don't have to go to the hotel the night before a game and all of those things. My worry was my worry was how will you change things by using more of the same thing that they've been around when you promote it from within. But I give him credit.

I give him credit because Shottie, when he got here, he called me up. He called all of us up, brought us over and spent time and let us see how he's a approach was his approach was and I told you guys I don't know if I told you guys you know even in the meeting rooms they got a basketball uh a goal and and they shoot free throws and in front of everybody with 30 seconds so it's pressure and I like that he creates that Jimmy Johnson was like that he's always creating competition impression competitive precious moments so everybody's yelling while you're trying to make those free throws that's all great football is is competition under pressure.

That's why I started saying, hmm, he has something here. He had, because you got to create that all the time and make people. You got to be used to it. You got to expect it. I always said, you've got to have a love affair. That has to be your mistress.

Pressure has to be your best friend, and that's what he's creating around there. And that's why they've been playing pretty good, especially offensively in these games. I got you. nigga finest you i got it all that that's that's what the nigger finnest you not only him you you carson back there too yeah that's like oh he signed with miami back in the off season i was thinking about it when we were talking about when treasurer was talking about

soon as he signed in the off season he called me i was like oh okay i know he said i'm a real big homie niggas got to check they got so you the real big homie niggas got to check in with you before they get the job or when they get the job or get the position, they're like, let's go get this shit situated with Mike Nair because we ain't got time for this shit later. That's what I'm taking from this. Go ahead.

Because you know what they're saying, because you know that nigga will be running his mouth somewhere. Yeah. That's what he's saying. You know what that's what he said. So, hey, it works. I was with his mother and his sister

down there over in Florida State, man. But that's a great family, man. It really is. You got the leadership that he brings that team has been in value. Yeah, I've seen you take your belt off. You was hitting the wall with the belt. Mike, you're a real fucking character every weekend, man,

belt the ass, fucking y'all, everything with you. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it, man. I've seen it. Stad you on board, Carlson Beck. I am now. Shout to the K. We'd be F.S. Who?

So we're in a good little position right now. Right, right. Exactly. Hey, and when I was doing that belt thing, you know what I'm saying? In the comments, somebody said, oh, you can tell, this somebody used to whoop his tail. That's how my dad used to whip my tail with that belt. You know what I mean?

But, man, my shoulder was hurting like I don't know what. Mike, I ain't going to lie. You're some good-ass shape. What is the watermelon you said you're eating every night? Because you're in really good shape, man. I give you your credit, man. You were in really good shape. Because for you not to be, like, limping around the day after that tackle,

I would be, I ain't going to front. It'd probably take about four days to get back from that. You're a good shape, man. I was limping last night. Josh, I was looking last night. It looked like he twists your ankle. I was such in a slow motion, man. For you to be walking in, though, you're in good shape.

Yeah, all good. Okay, so now we're going to get to Arabia's team. So the commanders beat the Chargers 27 to 10. We saw Jaden Daniels return. Arabia, how did you feel about his return in the game as a whole? I thought it was fine. There were certain times where I feel like he could have slid, but he ended up kind of trying to run through defenders.

He played okay. I honestly had a problem with Cliff Kingsbury's play calling in the first half. To me, we find ourselves in really messed up third and long situations because we're not running on the first play of the first down. Jacori Kroski Merritt, Bill, our rookie running back, has a hot hand right now. He is able to get six, seven, eight yards in a play. Why are we not running him for that first play? So we're passing, we're passing, we're not getting any yards.

now is third and 12. Now it's third and 14. Now it's third and eight. And now we're in a situation. If anything, I didn't like the play calling from Cliff Kingsbury. Now in the second half, he adjusted, which I can appreciate. I think he did go into the locker room, had a conversation. And to the end, you know, the end of that game, definitely more passing plays. Our defense finally got a turnover. We got an interception at the gold line. Thanks to Mike Sanristale, go blue. And overall, it wasn't a game that I actually expected us to win. I had the Chargers winning that game. But it was a nice win. a nice way to go on the road and take that one away from Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh. To watch those two young guys, you know, Justin Herbert and Jane Daniel, go at it. But the key here and what Cliff Kingsbury was doing was working back in his quarterback, you know, those first couple possessions, yeah, you had to punt. He's basically saying, I got to get my young quarterback reacclimated because you could tell the game was kind of quick fast for him. Jay Ney's got ready to try to sneak out and run.

And I thought, oh, man, that was a slow decision. You got to either go or throw the ball right now. So you could tell he was getting reacclimated to the speed of the game. But I'm going to tell you something. When I watch this team, when scary Terry gets back, it's going to be scary. Because Debo brings a physicalness to this team that's real. You know, when he gets the ball, he's looking for people to run over. And I think that brings something.

to a Washington team. So, yeah, they'll continue to reacclimate young Jane Daniels and it went, oh, man, we're scared, Terry, get back. Then we'll have to worry about it. But what I'm saying is we'll be able to match a point for point. We're putting up Faudi over here. We got the number one offense. So I'm looking forward to that battle when it comes.

That doesn't move me. I don't care nothing about that. As soon as we get the game lined up, it's a division game. So all that number one offense, when you play the Jets, no one's impressed by the 0 and 5 Jets. When you play us, you're going to have to keep that same energy in the division. So we'll see. Well, but you don't get the number one offense for playing one team.

You get the number one offense for playing the whole season. So right now, the whole season they played, they're number one. That wasn't just from the Jets. That was from the Eagles and the Packers, all those other teams. So you can't just try to snatch that from us. taking the glory right out of that story. I'm not lying on that. There ain't no one jet team that put you number one.

It's the whole season that got you number one. Yeah, that doesn't move me because you still haven't played us yet. So as soon as you play us, then we can talk about what number ranking you are and your offense and your defense and your special teams. I will see when you line it up when you play us. You ain't played us yet. We'll see. We'll see.

Yeah. What I will say is what I will say is this is an add-on. really quick is that I do see a rejuvenated Debo with the commanders. Like, you know, it was a lot of contract disputes or whatever contract he won with the 49ers and they wouldn't give it to him. Not just last year, the last couple years.

I'm seeing a very, very rejuvenated Debo with the commanders. And like you said, Mike, he was looking to run people over. He's looking to win. I'm not going to give him the energy that Stefan Diggs had last night. But game after game after game, you see a nigga who want to win

and prove the niggas that it ain't over because some niggas like, oh, why should we pay him this money? I'm talking about the 49ers. He may not be in his prom. He's looking very, very much. I'm not going to say his prime prom, but he's looking very, very good.

And right now, I'm going to have to agree with Arabia. I would take the commanders over the cowboys today. I'm sure you guys will, But I, hey, all I'm saying is Dallas putting up 40 against all teams. I don't see Washington put up 40 yet, but we'll see that don't don't be playing. David Daly's just got back yesterday, man. Calm down, man. He just got back.

Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, I just told you C.D. Lam is out. Four starting linemen were out today. And now you want to try to use the injury when I use, oh, okay, come on now. Jake, Dave just got back. He, that did that today with no, with nobody. I don't even know those. It's three. All right, I won.

I won. No, we had you on the over and under for CD Lamb. You were three. It was two. I was talking to the people. You don't need back breath. Y'all had been holding on a home. How many times I'm going to throw up CD-Land-Land.

You already, I'm looking at best going on in the control room on the over and under. How many times you would say CD-Lam today? I won. Thanks for that 200, Mike. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Go ahead, man. I'm going with the commanders right now.

Like the baby you say, y'all beat up on the Jets today and then I'm tired of hearing about with C.D. Land. But I will tell you this. I will say this. Dak is really impressive, man. He's looking really, really, really good. Really good. I'm still taking the commanders over the Cowboys right now.

Just a little bit of credit, Mike. Listen, when Jane and Daniels get back in him, I don't have to give miscredit too. Look, that pass towards the end of the game and stay off his back foot and he dropped that shit in the bucket. Yo, bro, that pass was amazing. It was smooth.

I think that came back, drop that shit in the right corner and that shit right in the bucket. Listen, man, for a nigger that just got back off injury, that was smooth, man. Maybe his mom no way. Yeah, I think his mom, keeping him away from that pussy, keeping away from the wrong niggas.

That may be part of it, man. That may be part. I didn't get no pussy, no nothing. All he could do is. just get football. That nigga kiss a girl, his mom busting in the room. No, no kissing, no touching, no nothing. Grab a football, nigga.

Mom might be up to son because that nigga nice. Yeah, and you know, what surprised me is he's the first, in the shortest amount of game, I think it's 20 games. He rushed for 1,000 yards. Can you believe that? In the shortest amount of games, he's reached a thousand yards rushing. We had Michael Vig to Lamar. That blew my mind.

I didn't know that. To hear that. You knew that, Arabia? I did, but unfortunately, I don't, I'm so critical of my team that I don't necessarily see that as the good thing that it should be. A lot of the reason why he has a lot of those rushing yards aren't designed QB runs. It's because our offensive line had him running for his life a few different times. So it's definitely true, but for me, it just highlights some deficiencies that we've had in our offensive line.

So last thing before we wrap, and I think it's fitting giving the question Kim asked Mike about how he basically just has all this energy at the Miami game. So we got a quote here from C.J. Stroud. He said he feels like he's lost some athleticism as he gets older. He said, being 23, I'm not fully in my grown man body all the way yet. I'm still growing every year and I got to continue to be hard to myself about not only lifting weights, but eating the right foods. I feel like I'm getting old.

I'm not as quick as I used to be. And he talked about him reminiscing back on his high school highlights. So Mike, how do you feel about that quote from C.J. Stroud? and we know that the Texans went on to beat the Ravens. We'll talk about that game in our next episode. But how did you feel about that quote for him? And then basically, what advice would you give to him as he's getting older?

It's 23 years old. What are you talking about? What is he even talking about? You a baby. He's a baby. Listen, if he's somehow slipping and telling us, man, I got to, I'm not working as hard as I used to. I'm not in shape like I used to. I'm not doing the small things that I used to do a couple of years ago

when I was more afraid and making the team and all those things. Well, get back to it. But you're a baby. You're fresh out the womb. You're 23 years old. I don't want to hear it. Come on, man. This is a baby as a kid.

Dude, wait until he 32, 33, 33, 34. Then he'll start telling me about all of this. Right now, you got the whole game in front of you, man. get you do get get your mom like jane daniel and leave some of the other stuff alone and focus on the game i don't want to hear a 23 year old talking about he's feeling old you must not be getting some sleep or something there's got to be something else okay ravia your thoughts and then cam yeah i feel the exact same way this feels like a coming of age story for c j trout where he's realizing that a lot of this stuff starts in the off season the off season isn't just about

going on vacation and visiting family and all this and that and kind of going back to the whole debo thing my boyfriend trains debo samuel so over the off season i saw debo constantly in the gym not only that he ingratiated himself in the dc community soon as he got here he ran a youth football clinic in southeast dc he was very serious and intentional in the off season about getting his body together ingratiating himself in the organization and the city and i'm not saying that cj trout isn't doing that what i am saying is that it sounds like he's realizing that oh there's stuff off the field that i have to take care of sleep nutrition staying in the film room and watching tape that really contributes to your your performance in the field and i'll go back

to what chant bailey said about marshawn latimore who marshawn latimore is at a point in his season where he's past his prime so you have to be able to teach an old dog new tricks if you still want to be productive you have to figure out a new way of doing things you can't just be natural actually talented. So C.J. Stroud, you're not at that point yet to have to teach an old dog new tricks. You should still be doing the same thing that you are doing at a higher level and progressing. So he's way too young to make this comment. And it seems like he has to figure out what to do off the field to be productive on the field. What city he playing? Houston. Oh, God. This is crazy out of here. Some bitches in Houston got the fatties, man. I'm James Hardin. Can't help us.

in Houston, man. Listen, when I seen that nigger hitchhike with Amber Rose or whatever the fuck he did that time with Amber Rose, I know it was bad for the nigga, man. He live in Houston, and he's the starting quarterback in Houston. They draining him. They draining him.

They got the nigger thinking he 36. The bitch is draining that, nigga. That's a hard seed of living, especially if you're the star athlete. Ask James Harton. Stay out the strip club, nigga. Stay out of the clubs and stop him the bitch is over, man. Listen, you write up,

You're three hours away, Mike, you know, you know, you up the road. Yeah, or Houston ain't no joke. And I'm just wondering if C.J. Stroud trying to tell us he need to get more massages or something in the home season. I don't know what he said. Listen, I'm saying. You, QB1 in Houston, Texas is not easy, man. Listen, go get some security to keep them joints off you, man. I told you, what happened?

What happened? Did he hitching with Amber Rose? Yeah, he gave Amber Rose a ride back after the celebrity. softball game after the slut walk yeah after the slut walk he picked up and took her i agree with yeah take all arabia advice because you telling us that you feel old at 23 they draining you my nigger and i understand it i get it i get it listen to arabia cam you actually you might be on to something because who would you say we had a conversation about this last season who would you say in the united states have like the top five like top five cities for bad as

women. I think you said New York. I think you said Miami, Houston, these cities that have some of the baddest women in the country, if we do the science and correlate them to the QB1s and the NFL. It's a lot of, I like many. I believe, like Chicago. I don't think I said New York. It's hard to New York. What I'm saying is the lifestyle in Houston, the strip clubs, the chicken wings are six in the morning, the 24-hour strip clubs. The scared, it's, listen, Houston's a beautiful city, it's very scandalous, it's very underground. It gets dark out there. I'm telling you, it does. I've been out there. I stayed out there for a little while. And I like, and I like me the Galleria. The Galleria. The Galleria. That was a timer. You're listening, right?

Boulevard. I heard about it. That's what I heard about it. Yeah. That's what I'm telling you. I'm telling you for a 23-year-old QV-1 is, it's dangerous out there, man. And listen, This is why, and I'm not saying every month this should be this intense as Jane and Daniels' mother, but this is the type of shit that goes on to my mother as a mom and just, I don't know if she could save, I don't know if Jayden Daniel's mom could save him in Houston.

They piranhas them girls out there, man. They eat you up. They come teamed up. Yes. If you're strong enough. You can be strong, but you ain't Hercules. So if you're strong at them, The first one, though, is he calls up friends.

And then they come over and say, oh, man. You know, and trust me, trust me. Trust me. That's what I heard about that stuff. Yeah. The thing about it, I'll just say really quick. I actually, I know y'all all disagree. I understand, like, because he's around my age,

and sometimes he would be tired. Like, I know you're looking at me crazy. looking at me crazy. I've grown up only in major cities. Like I literally have only lived in Miami, L.A., and Vegas, and obviously Tampa, like, you get tired. So I understand him, but I don't think that's a reason to, like, not perform a certain way. And I'm not saying that he's not performing, but I get it. Stack, you work an hour a day. No, I know. What are you talking about you tired? This, yes, but like, I feel like, I'm definitely always working. So I get it, too, which is a great thing. I wouldn't trade it for anything, but I'm always working. I'd be tired.

like, my back be hurting now. Like, you know, I'd be tired at 12. Like, I try. I'd be tired. Hey, speaking of that, let's let's throw this in here because stat you just mentioned something when you mentioned Tampa. We don't watch the makeup because Tampa ain't no joke either.

It's not. What, Tampa, what God, oh my. You four city. Right, right. That's a, boy, I mean, that's another city, boy. That's all they do over. that's what I'm saying. Did they tell you about Tampa, too?

That's what you heard about Tampa? That's what I heard about Tampa. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got on.

Yeah. We're all here. But y'all, shout out to CJ Stroud. Hopefully he figures it out. I get it. They don't. I understand. And it's okay to not understand because maybe I'm tripping.

But y'all let me know in the comments what y'all. Let me know in the comments what y'all think. But that is all the time that we have for today. Mike and Arabia, it was a pleasure to have you both on the show. Thank you both for coming on the show, man. Thank you for having Uncle Mike. It was great seeing you. It was great seeing you too, girl.

I've been looking for you. So I'm glad we had a chance to chat here. Yeah, y'all's a little too friendly for me today. I'm going to get y'all back on the show after y'all play each other, man. Yeah, it's too early. It's too early in the season for y'all to be cool, man. And I'm salty because I saw Unk in New Orleans in February when we're both covering the Super Bowl. I tried to say hi and his security told me to keep him moving.

So I was like, dang. So you know, you probably had on that Ruskin. Probably had that Ruskin sweat on. Niggins ain't stopping for that. The security knows. I didn't. Right. Right.

You're right. Yeah. Exactly. That's what he heard. what he heard. Okay, y'all. Well, thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. It's a drive.