IT IS WHAT IT IS - NY STANDS FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE KNICKS & OUR NBA FINALS PREVIEW! | S6 EP95

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, the New York Knicks got packed up by Haliburton and the Pacers in 6, Indiana punches their ticket to the NBA finals. What’s next for the Knicks, who will be the coach next year? Then, we preview the NBA finals with our biggest X-factors, better coach, better bench and matchups to watch for a chance to win a ring!  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MASE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus funds with your first deposit!l ⁠https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis⁠ Follow the show and our hosts on social media: ⁠It Is What It Is⁠, ⁠Cam'Ron⁠, ⁠Ma$e,⁠ and ⁠Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson⁠ , ⁠Producer Ayooo Nick⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. It's the easiest way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in over 30 states, including Georgia, Missouri, and Texas, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by handing the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus funds with your first deposit. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Cam, what up, man? Merlin, what's good? How are you today, man? Good, man. Good to see you, brother.

It's good that you, I like this weekend, you know, everything went as usual, you know? Nothing new, you know. I just, you know what, Murda, I'm be honest with you, man. I got a little invested. Yeah. You got out at the right time, and I got brain, I got a little bit brainwashed, a little bit, a little bit.

Yeah, they had you bringing out kev clothing and all that. Yeah, yeah, man, I'm disappointing myself. I let myself there for going back into that. Boy, I already knew that and for me to feed back into that was ridiculous. Yeah, you fed into it. Yeah, boy, it's ridiculous on my part. I can't blame myself. I can't blame anybody but myself to blame

for giving about 22% of emotion. You got out, you was tray, you called it, you called it at the right time. I have to concede that you knew. Yeah. And I knew too. I don't know why I fell for this. I have no idea.

The city had me hype, the city had me I have no idea, the city had me hype, the city had me on one. Yeah, the city had you hype, they had niggas with trash cans and all that, and it was amped, you know? Demon Street sat the people, that's when I had to get out. I had to get out.

They made me street. As you should, as you should, man. You know, you get that excited and you start celebrating that early, you just know it's not gonna be enough gas, you know? You knew it, you knew it, man. Yeah, I knew it. You knew it.

Stat, you learn these things in summer school title town. But are you still enrolled? I still enrolled. I'm a student. I'm waiting every day. Yeah, cause I saw your application the other day, I'm gonna push it through, you know. Oh, okay.

Yeah. And I like the way Kam is getting ahead of this, you know, cause the whole New York is blaming Kam and Remy Ma for the losing of the Knicks. They're blaming Kam and Remy Ma. Well, Remy had to do with it. I don't know what she had to do with it. I'm just telling you what they're saying.

Shout out to Remy, shout out to Pat. Man, I wish them the best. But they blaming Cam and Remy Ma. I don't know which one is really the issue. They can blame me all they want, I don't care. I said Cam, he jinxed us, he threw the gear on. And I didn't know what to say to it. I didn't know what to say to it, you know? I didn't know what to say.

I took your side though, you know? My thing is I'm not even gonna argue about it, I don't care. It's been going on for too long, I don't have a care in the world. I'm more mad that I fell into them thinking, I'm thinking that when they got back three, two, I said they could pull a miracle off them. No fucking miracles on 34th Street.

You start reminiscing, seeing Bernard King, run out the locker room and all that. There's no miracles on 33rd Street, man. Yeah, man. There's not. So whose day this time that Saint Agents is? The streets, is it the ghetto, which course of day is it? Cause I wanna know.

Stat, stat, your application ain't all the way finished for you to be doing this just yet, but I'm gonna go and say the ghetto, this is what the ghetto is saying. This is what they're saying in the bars and the juice bars and stuff like that, that's what they're saying. The Cam name is floating around.

Cam put this bad spirit on them, you know? That's following me. That's what they saying, the cam name is floating around. Cam put this bad spirit on them, you know? That's what I mean. That's what they saying. P.T., you heard that? P.T. trying to get out of it. They wanna blame me, if that's the case, I'm blaming Bernard Getz. Yeah.

Y'all go Google that, that's the form of this. Bernard Getz. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just y'all go Google that. That's what's forming this Bernard Getz. Yeah. Okay, so we have a lot to discuss, not even just the preview for the next game, but this game as well. So we're gonna start, like y'all said, the Knicks are out. The Pacers are going to the finals

after winning 125 to 108, Mace. You said the Knicks are going to the finals? No, I said the Knicks are out. End of the road. Oh, I thought it was Knicks in seven. By who? The Knicks ain't lose? The Knicks did lose.

Oh, then why is Niggas saying Knicks in seven? Maybe there's hope for the next time. I don't know. Yeah, I think that was Gilbert Arena's trolling. He said Knicks Nixon six or something There's a point you were saying Nixon six, but maybe I don't know Stay you came in there with the jersey on I did and then they want you a hype. Where your jersey at? It's not here anymore. I was high. I felt the festiveness. I wanted to be part of it

Yeah, you the Nick girl a little bit. Yeah, a little. You was a Nick girl? A little bit, it was a good moment. All right. A moment, emphasis on moment. Now, I'm really gonna say I'm not surprised at the Knicks. This is what we've been watching our whole life. This is the letdown we've been looking at our whole life.

You get really excited about this thing. They show up, they show great flashes of what it could be. You know, it's like all our exes, you know, stuff that it could have been that it just never turned into. And then you see them next time and they don't look the same, you know? You have to remember that it just didn't work out. And it's hard to be happy with people

that things don't work out with, you know? We're watching this on the internet and everywhere, you know? It's a lot going on for New York. I guess it's just back to the ditty trial. But what was you asking me again? Yeah, how'd you feel about the game? I knew all of this was gonna happen. I liked the way Mikael Bridges showed up.

You know, he started looking like he was going to make a difference in the game. And I just I just think when it came down to it, Indiana just was a better team. When you look at this, this Nick team, even though they have good players at each position, they're missing something. And I'm not sure if it's just that Jalen Brunson scores so much that it takes away from the other people. Even though he's scoring at a high volume,

he doesn't look bad out there at all. But I'm not sure if that's the right fit for them to win a championship. They won't win a championship with a six foot guard getting 40 points. You just won't, you know? And even though the New York get hype about that, it just remind you of Rucker, you know, Dykeman,

you know, what is it? Kingdome, we seen that, but that don't work in the NBA. And the NBA to win a championship, the point guard gotta be be at least six three and higher. If not, then that that 30 points gonna lead to a loss in the series every single time. But then you got Siakam that was just looking like it was his league. And the remarkable thing about Siakam on that Indiana team is that they don't call any place

for him. It's just he just he's the epitome pause of get it out the mud. Like if the loose ball is here, he get a basket, he get a put back. And the whole team, I think the the guy Nim Hard, how do you say his name? Yeah, he made the difference when he stepped up the guard, Jalen Brunson. He has some key steals that blew the game open. Pause.

And they was just a better team. They came to handle their business. The Knicks tried to jump out in the beginning when it was all said and done. Indiana was just way too fast for them. And I don't know if any team could keep up with them if they're playing at that pace. It seemed like people could play the first half that way. But when they get to that third and fourth quarter at that same tempo, if they're playing at that pace. It seemed like people could play the first half that way, but when they get to that third and fourth quarter at that same tempo, if they could keep that up,

they'll be really fine. Look, I have my notes ready and everything. It's no notes. This is what the niggas do. There's no notes. I'm not notin' nothin'. Them hard like murder set, put the clamps on Jalen Brunson, locked him down from 94 feet,

beginning to end, gave him a hard time. Cause look, I have my notes. Look, the Knicks shot good. This nigga's six for nine and 10 for 18. Nah, fuck that. They had on a Knick jersey. Michael Jordan in a Knick jersey is not gonna win. LeBron, it doesn't matter who puts the jersey on.

When you put on a jersey, you lose, man. Who's your favorite? Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabz. Your favorite will lose. Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Alan Iverson, Anthony. You don't win in a Knicks jersey. That's just the bottom line. You don't win.

It has nothing to do with the players. All the players are decent. You just have on a Knicks jersey. You don't win when you has nothing to do with the players. All the players are decent. You just have on a Nick jersey. You don't win when you have on a Nick jersey. I keep telling niggas this, man. That's crazy. You just don't win when you put on a Nick jersey, man. Anything after 74 and you put on a Nick jersey,

you don't win. There's no notes. There's no trying to analyze the game. The analysts is when you started the season and put that Nick Jersey on, you were doomed not to win. That's just how it goes. We can say every day, oh, they beat Boston. They beat the champs.

Oh, you don't win. That's what they keep, stop calling me too with that. Well, we beat the champs, not in the championship. Okay, you keep talking, well, we beat the champs. Jason Tatum was hurt and you didn't win in the championship. You did, cause they keep trying to hit me on the phone with that, but what did you win? Okay, you won a series, you did not win

an Eastern Conference Finals, you did not win it. Stop calling me what y'all beat the champs, cause they not the champs anymore. They're about not to be the champs. You didn't beat the champs in the championship. Now I'll focus on in the end, I have nothing to say about the Knicks. We know what happened.

The Knicks continuously keeps nicking and that's just the way it goes. And so back to Indiana. Now what Indiana did was they pressed them niggas full court the whole game. The Knicks looked really tired. They looked like a nigga who was supposed to fight a 15 round fight and they only trained for eight rounds.

They looked tired. they would not, that's what happens though. Tim's running them niggas in the ground all season and the shit hit the fan. That's exactly what happened. The shit hit the fan. Finally that starting five said, God damn man, we tired.

And I was thinking to myself, even if they win this series, they not gonna have enough left in the tank for Oklahoma City. They would get swept. Or they would lose a five, definitely. They would, they not have enough gas in the tank for Oklahoma City, they would get swept. Or they would lose a five, definitely. They didn't have enough gas in the tank to go seven with Indiana and then play OKC,

who had a lot of rest and them niggas is ready to go. Anyway, man. No, because I'm not finished. I had to take a deep breath. Take your time. Even when niggas was scoring, what Indiana did was run the ball. After a missed basket, after a made basket,

it was a two, it was, I can recall two or three plays, maybe three plays, where the Knicks scored, and Indiana threw the ball up the court, one dribble, two passes, see I could land it up. At least twice did I recall that if I didn't walk to the kitchen and miss nothing else. They are running and they knew

that y'all couldn't keep up with them. This also is a statement of Rick Carlisle. Niggas said, okay, this is tips doesn't make adjustments. Rick Carlisle does. Niggas said, all right, this is what y'all wanna do. Referring to game five, when the Knicks won that game, he's like, okay, this is a nigga like, they don't have that man, I bet.

And they came out and exposed you. You got out coached two tips. won that game and he's like, okay, this is a nigga like, they don't have that, I bet. And they came out and exposed you, you got out coached two tips, I don't know what's gonna happen with you because the Nick fans are disgusted with you, they wanted you fired during the series. I had to tell niggas, niggas, niggas be your murder. I don't think niggas be thinking that we can move mountains

because niggas be like, say it on the show, Cam, say it on the show, I'm like, I said that you don't want them, what do you think? You're not saying it enough because like, say it on the show, Cam. Say it on the show. I'm like, I said that you don't want them. What do you think? You're not sad enough, because if you said enough, they're going to do it the same way that you got Jaylen Parmy, Julius Randall, and D'Vincento Traylor. You and Murda did that.

You think these GMs and onus kids don't listen to y'all? And then when they listen to y'all, they go back and tell them and then the GM, yo, my nigga, these niggas be delusional, my nigga, it's ridiculous. But congratulations to the Indiana Pacers. They definitely seem like the better team. The Knicks look like they definitely need some rest

and need to work on their bench in the off season and figure out what they gonna do with Tibbs. Cause Tibbs, it looked like he's stubborn and wanted to start putting players in the game in game three of the Eastern Conference Finals. You're not gonna get no rhythm off them niggas like that, man. I know everybody's supposed to be professionals and what their name is called, go answer the bell,

but it ain't gonna work like that in the Eastern Conference Finals. So congratulations to the Pacers, man. Did you see murder-winning nigga, Halliburton thought that he's gonna get a repeat? Yeah. I'm just happy he went to see Akum, though. I think he deserved it.

The Halliband is still going crazy, though. It's still Halliband time, Yellow City. Why are you calling the Halliband? Yeah. That nigga more like Martin Luther King. What? That nigga ain't even know Halliband. What?

You know what time. Halliband, Yellow City, man. Nah, if anything was the Halliband, like Halliband's killers. Like, see Halliburton, he nice, don't get it wrong. But he a nigga that's like, you know what, I ain't trying to, we ain't gonna get into the real thing cause they'll be trying to harass them all.

But if you gonna nickname one of them, make sure that's a nigga with an AK, he gonna spray everything. Kobe's the band, Jordan, with Tyrese Hall of Burton is, and I'm not discrediting, he's a nigga who's accurate with one grenade, throw it, and it hit the right niggas and he run. He's not the haliband.

Let's cut it short, my nigga. That's assassins, murderers, killers. He's very accurate when it needs to be. The haliband don't get eight points in game four. It just don't go like that. He had 24 and 13. Not when they lost, they had eight. Yeah, you right.

Yeah, Paul me game five, I'm sorry, not day four, game five. He was in the cave, Paul, he was in the cave. They was looking for him. I seen him, he was out there. That nigga motherfuck Siakram looked like Captain Phillips, the nigga who was on the boat with Tom Hanks and them niggas. He was there every game, my nigga,

so to me they got it right. I see a lot of people saying that they felt Halliburton deserved it, but Siakam was there for them games, Halliburton wasn't. And to Mase's credit, they don't run a lot of plays for him. He gets it where he can get it. Even in the final game, he had 31. He had 30 the other night, 24 the other night.

Sometimes Halliburton be missing. And don't get it- He had to be a long rebound. He get the long rebound and save them every time. Right. So I think Halliburton, you wouldn't, you don't win it without him. And of course you need him.

And I wouldn't have been mad if he got evil, but to me, I would have voted for Siakam. Yeah. What's actually funny is Mace, you probably don't remember, you actually predicted Siakam. Cause when you first said it, I looked like, huh? But like after, now that it's all of a sudden done,

I'm like, okay, it definitely makes a lot of sense. Thank me later. Thank me later. Thank me later. You're like, it's probably gonna go to Siakam or something. I was like, huh? And then it happened. I'm like, okay, yeah, that was sad.

So I got to ask y'all. And then that was another thing not to cut you off, is when you sit there and think about two champions and OGN and Nobly and Siaka, who played on the same team, it looked like Siaka was like, I know this nigga, man. It's my little mans. It's my little mans, and then yo, send them my way, this nigga,

this my little nigga right here. That's what it looked like to me, like I used to kill this nigga in practice. That's the vibes I always get. Right, okay, so down to nicknames, because y'all obviously are good with that, and you compared Halliburr and MLK, it's giving peaceful? If it's not the Halliburton, what is it gonna be?

It's Yellow City, man. It's Yellow City, man. We up. We up. But do you feel like Halliburton has that fire or no? You comparing... I'm saying, it sounds cool because names... It goes with it. But I'm asking murder. You compare Emto's been Latin basketball wise though. He got a clique with him, you know, it's like,

it's like, what's his name? Um, Luca Brazi, man, the Taliban. It's like his niggas with him. He got a lot of light skin shooters with him. I don't want to say on this show because niggas will come back and be talking about y'all forget the victims and all that niggas. So at the end of the day,

I don't really wanna compare too much to it. But I'm just saying, I don't think he a killer like that. I think he's on a verge of winning the championship. He's, and he's right there, superstar. He's 13 more on NBA. But I would say more of a, he's cool. Damn. You just got him as cool killer?

No, because people are damn great at him. Overrated, said he's not a superstar. First of all, he's an Olympic gold medalist, third team All-MBA, went to the Eastern Conference Finals last year, and now he's going to a championship and he's super duper young, he has a lot of time to do all this stuff again. But I don't get, mm, I don't get that.

Yeah. That dog. Yeah. Yeah, somebody say he was giving magic flashes out there. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, I don't get the. New hardness is crazy. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I don't get the... New Hottness is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. New Hottness is crazy.

I get vegan. You get vegan, Bob. That didn't get it. Vegan is good for you too, though. That's what I'm saying, vegan is healthy. What they call it, Impossible Burgers and all that, yeah. Not, yo. No big pause. Yeah, that's healthy. What they call it, impossible burgers and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, no big pause.

Yeah, that's what I get. That's what I get. But vegan's good for you. You know what I'm saying? Vegan might be better than a cheeseburger or something, a steak, depending on which, it depends on which your cup of tea. Impossible burger is crazy.

I don't know what y'all think on it, cause I think like it might be time for, like Shea Butter got a nickname, like Halliburr- Shea Sizzle, he got a couple. That's what I'm saying, Halliburr doesn't have one, Jason Tatum doesn't really have one. I'm like, there's definitely a comparison

and like the grit in the dog. Yeah, cause think about the two light skinned with the nice hair niggas, when are you gonna name them? Yeah, what kind of name can you give them? Yeah, they the same complexion with the same hair. Oh, God. Jodeci. Yeah, light skinned Jodeci, Backstreet Boys.

Backstreet Boys, I don't know, I'm curious to see what they... Jodeci is smooth. Sha-na-na. Yeah, Shalimar and all that. Yeah, light skinned and all that. Yeah. Lice-kin. The Lice-kin. El Debarge and all that.

They like the drug dealers in Tyler Perry movies. Yeah. Yeah. Save drug dealers. Save. Jason Tatum though, to me, Jason Tatum, he got more dog in him paws than. Than Halliburton.

Yeah. Fair. You think so? I believe so. Nah, I'm just trolling right now. Yeah, I think so. Shout out to my boy, Jason Tatum, get well, man. Yeah. For sure. Okay, so let's get into our underdog picks.

So of course, Thursday, the Pacers will play the Thunder for the NBA Finals. Underdog has SGA at five and a half rebounds. You have him higher or lower, Mace? Who going higher? I think he's gonna have a game of the century. I really think he's been waiting to get to this moment so long that pause, he's gonna go out there

and really like have one of the best games he ever had. And what's the number? Five and a half rebounds. Shay? Mm-hmm. I'm gonna go lower. You realize that both of these people are in the championship because of Paul George, right? Off the trade, you know what I'm saying?

Paul George. Trade, yeah. Paul George got traded to the Clippers for Shea. And then there was a trade where Paul George and Sabonis ended up going. I forget, I had it in my notes. I threw my notes away, but in some type of way, I got it written down. No, not Philly.

It's- No, it was Indiana. Yeah, but that, yeah, Indiana and the Kings. It got the Kings and he got traded for some bonus cause Halliburton was with Sacramento. So Paul George, think about this, all cause of him these trades and he never been to the finals.

Crazy. Okay. Lower though. Okay. Halliburton's at 17 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? He's so up in there and pause. I'm gonna lower I'm gonna hire his haliband. It's haliband or nothing right now. It's yellow city, man Okay, and siakam's at 28 and a half points rebounds and assist him higher lower mace. Hi

Should be higher I Don't know if they gonna win it but but they looking good right now. The way the fucking Oklahoma City Thunder defense look, like I said, they look like some piranhas, bro. They looked really, but then I liked Indiana defense. Last game against the Knicks, well, to be honest with you, Indiana, last game against the Knicks. Well, to be honest with you, Indiana last game against the Knicks reminded me of OKC's defense throughout the season.

So we'll see what happens. Okay. Make sure to download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So Cam, you was talking about how people wanted Tibbs to be fired. At this point, just real quick on the next, before we go to our finals preview,

do you think he should or you think people are jumping the gun? Cam. I don't give a fuck. I don't care who coach the next man. It's not, they're not gonna win. Every year we keep looking for somebody to blame. Me, cause I'm wearing a pal finelia.

Sibs is coaching. Spike Lee is there. Stephen A. Smythson have been at the game. We keep looking for somebody to blame. Me, cause I'm wearing half a nillion. Sibs is coaching. Mike Lee is there. Steven A. Smithson have been at the game. This person, it don't matter. Get who you want. You know what? Here I say it for the fans who want.

The Knicks fans that I've talked to want Mike Malone. Mike Malone was just broadcasting the conference finals on ESPN. Obviously he doesn't have a coaching job yet. This is who the Knicks want. Get in and fight Mike Legacy up. Get on over there if you want Mike. Have a good time, not winning.

Congratulations. I don't know if the tips should be, to answer your question stat, that's a great question. But I don't have the answer, because it doesn't matter. Get who you want. Red All back out the grave, Pat Riley out retirement, bring Phil Jackson back, bring Pop over.

It's not gonna happen, man. Bill Belichick won the crossover sports. Get who you want. It just not gonna work for the Knicks, yo. Not in this century. Yeah, the Knicks did not work with Phil Jackson. You remember that? They brought Phil in. century. Yeah, the Knicks did not work with Phil Jackson. You remember that? They brought Phil in.

Yes. It's the only place that they couldn't win with Phil Jackson. Exactly. Exactly. But there's two candidates, I think, that could turn this into something. I think, and I know I keep saying this,

but somebody need to look into this. I really believe somebody likes, what's his name, Steve Van Gundy? I know he has. Stan Van Gundy. What's the brother, Jeff? Jeff, they need somebody like that coaching that team. That's like real fiery to get-

Jeff tried, bro. Jeff tried, he coached the Knicks already. Jeff got him close. He got him closer than that. Here we go. That's not enough. If you wear a Knicks jersey, you will not win. Jeff already tried.

He already coached. You won't bring him back for the new regime that's on you. I'm just telling you. Yeah, roll the dice again on Jeff. And the only reason why I said Jeff because I really believe somebody like Mark Jackson could win with this team. They need something, they need to go out the side box.

That's all I could go, I could go for that, maybe. Yeah, somebody like Mark would spark a different energy in them, not Rick Pitino, not any of those people. I only said Jeff, cause Jeff probably would bring Mark with him, but I think this is that type of team that you gotta go out the box. Because Mike Malone would just be the same as Thibodeau

in a way. It would just be the same kind of, same output he'll get from the players. You need somebody that could spark a different part of their brain because that's why they keep losing. They get right there. But in order to win, you need somebody

that can push you past that point so you can end up winning those games that count. Because right now, they need somebody that could tell them that also, that Jalen Brunson gotta be in championship shape. Cat Williams, no, I keep saying Cat Williams. Carl Anthony Towns. Carl Anthony Towns. You do keep saying Cat Williams, nah, I keep saying Cat Williams. Carl Anthony Towns. Carl Anthony Towns.

You do keep saying Cat Williams. Gotta be, and then, yeah. Carl Anthony Towns gotta be in championship shape, and I think those are the things that's gonna really make this team a really formidable opponent,

until then they just gonna have just enough gas to get where they got this year. I think that's a great suggestion Mark Jackson because Mark Jackson is a player's coach and hearing the stories about him, not just as a coach, as a teammate, even Reggie Miller, when he talks about Mark Jackson, because Mark Jackson also played for the Pacers as well,

how he used to hype them up and tell them, you know, you and Reggie Miller tell these stories like Mark Jackson put that battery in my back. That's how I have 40. That night I have 39, Mark Jackson, he was in my head telling me to start at third. And I believe that's where Steph Curry, and not saying Steph Curry and Klay Thompson

weren't already great shooters, but when you got a coach that's on your side and in your head telling you, you got these niggas, it means a lot. I played for the Gauchos and Riverside, majority of my amateur career coming up, outside of school I'm talking about, coming up, you know, they call it amateur AAU or whatever,

but I played for Gauchos and I played for Riverside, which were premier basketball leagues in New York City. And they had very good coaches, good coaching staff, everything up, but it was more like Thibodeau. And then when I went to play for Young Life for a little while, I loved playing for Young Life because Derm used to put the battery in my back.

She Bikes used to put the, yo, what the fuck you? Yeah, what you waiting on? Look who in front of you, look at, move, move, move. And that nigga be like, to clear it out. Then Thurman start clapping, we got one, yeah. Thurman never knew how to pronounce my name. Oh, he did, he just be like, Mr. Camelwine, let's go Mr. Camelwine.

I'll be like, let's go Mr. Camelwine. I'm like, that battery in my back voice, you need that sometimes, it'll get you on 10. And Mark Jackson to me seems like one of them coaches. Yeah, Thurman was good. Yeah, Thurman was good. Thurman tell you, you about to get a scholarship. Yeah.

Yeah. Thurman was good. Thurman, the two coaches I had to bet on. Yeah, that was two good ones. Yeah, Thurman, Sheeb, and when I was with the Gautor, the twins. The twins. What about Bingo?

I ain't gave coach about Bingo. Boo Bingo. Oh yeah, Bingo is crazy, too. Yeah, Bingo was good, yeah. Okay, so. Shot the bank. Yeah. So, last question, and then we will no longer talk

about the Knicks for the rest of this episode. Because there was a time when you guys, you know, wore the jerseys, wore the gear. I know you're saying you won't go back. People like to see that. What would it take for you guys to be back on the Knicks bandwagon, Mase? I never was on the bandwagon stat.

I did this just for sending them. This is true. I have to confirm that. This is exactly what we all knew, you know? And this is... I'm tired of knowing stuff people don't know, you know, I gotta sit around and act like I don't know what I know. This Knicks team is something in the arena, I don't know what happened, something happened,

we don't know about until it's lifted off the Knicks, they can't win, man. I mean, this happened year after year, something don't happen 20 and 30 years straight if something ain't happen. Something happen, man. You can't just not win for 30 years. So it's a curse?

Yes. For the most part. It's 50 years. It's been 50 years. The Knicks are like Cleveland was before LeBron won there. 50 years. Okay. Last person won a chip, what was that? Cleveland was before LeBron won there. 50 years. Okay. Last person won a chip, what was that?

Was Phil Jackson, right? Phil was playing. Phil Jackson was at the three. He was playing. Come on, this is crazy, man. They gotta stop this. Kel. I was on Ben Wagon for three days.

And I'm mad at myself. I have to agree with murder. I can't even disagree with the nigga. You know what I'm saying? And I was gonna have your back murder even if you didn't say it. Murder was never on the bandwagon. Murder had a bet with sin.

He met his requirements for the bet. And I thought I'd bring out some paraphernalia because I thought shit was cool. Look man, I start fooling myself. I'm not ever getting back on the Nick Van Wagon. Let me tell you something. This is dead ass, shout out to my man. I'm gonna tell you something right now.

Shout out to my man Bust Around, right? So Bust Around was looking for me. Sorry I get back to you Bust, but I knew this. This is- Bust your Nick fan too? Yeah, let me tell you this story. And I'm- you, Bust, but I knew this. This is- Bust a Nick fan too? Yeah, let me tell you this story. And I'm apologizing. I'm apologizing to Bust the rhyme right here

on national YouTube television, eight in the morning Eastern time. Bust, I didn't call you back personally. Bust the rhymes had a song, he was looking for me. I got the word. He had a song, he was looking for me, I got the word, he had a song that he recorded and he had an opportunity to perform at Game 7 and he wanted me on the song.

And I'm like, I'm not calling Busta back, they ain't even win Game 6 yet. See, this is the shit I'm talking about. Exactly what I'm talking about. Niggas is making Game 7 songs, niggas got street names after each other, niggas got all this shit and niggas got street names after each other, niggas got all this shit and niggas ain't getting done.

So Buss you know you my brother, I love you. More than life, you my nigga, my nigga. But I knew this, this ride ain't gonna hit you bad. I'll call you tomorrow, I'll call you later on in the day. Now we can chat about other shit. I didn't even wanna call you about, imagine that. I would've stopped everything I'm doing, go to the studio, get ready to maybe possibly book a flight

or get a flight back to New York for nothing. Sorry, buss a buss, man. I'm glad I didn't take that time out of my weekend to do all that nothing. This song was called Game 7? I don't know what the song was called, but it was a song for Game 7 to perform at Game 7 in the garden. And it wasn't, Game 6 didn't even happen yet.

So I was like... It's the celebration I'm talking about. Exactly. Counting your chickens. Can't count your chickens, man. I remember, Killer, you told me something when we was growing up. You said you don't count any money

until you have it. Yeah, that's a fact. I used to count my money. Yeah, yeah. That's what made me mad with niggas, you know? You can't count the money until you got it. I don't give a fuck nigga tell you, yo, it's a million on the table,

yo, we got $200, yo, we got $20. If it ain't in your pocket or your possession, it's not yours. Listen, listen, you know, it's a lot of wire transfers now and everything and you know, doing shows, everybody has their own process of doing shows. So the process of doing shows, and like I said, everybody's different.

Some people want 80% up front, some people want 10%. The way I usually work is you give me half and right before I get on stage, I'll do the other half. But you know, coming up, everything doesn't run smooth. Everything's not at Ampute Theater. Everything's not arena. Sometimes you're at clubs. Sometimes you're dealing with promoters who are drug dealers

and don't know how to do business correct way because they just got money. They're like, oh, you could book this nigga. I just made $30,000 a day. Book that nigga, da da da da. Just naming a number, not saying that was my number, anybody's number. But what happened is, sometimes these promoters

base your second half, which like I said for me, second half, on the crowd coming and liquor being sold. So they may, let's say you want, as usually the number I use, you want $30,000. They send you $15,000, when you get there, you post to pick up the other $15,000. When send you 15,000, and when you get there, you post to pick up the other 15,000. When you get there, it's not as crowded as they may think. The liquor may not be sold, so they telling you,

hold on, hold on a minute, we waiting for more people. Wait for more, they look, I don't give a fuck if one person in here, one million people in here. The deal is the deal, that is you as a promoter that have the money ready. But sometimes you run into situations where they like, oh, we're the second half, we ain't got it, we ain't got it.

I remember shouting to my man, British. British actually took one of the promoters' car title and his gold teeth out his mouth because he didn't have the second half. Because I told him, that's just your problem, it's not my problem. You put me in this situation, so I need mine. But that's niggas counting money before you get it.

You think that other 15 was gonna be waiting on you. So you spent the first 15, cause you like, yo, I'm about to get another 15, it's all good. And now he ain't got your 15, your rent due, car note due, insurance due, child support, whatever bills you got,

you thinking you got a 15 comment pause, and it's not there. See y'all, with that being said, you will not see them in a Knicks jersey anytime soon, unfortunately. I may wear my diplomat Knicks jersey if I'm just styling and profiling, but it ain't got nothing to do with the Knicks.

That's your brand, you said fuck them. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I promote, advertising my brand. There you have it y'all. Exactly, exactly yeah, I promote advertising my brand. There you have it y'all. Okay, we're gonna go to break when we return, you'll get into our NBA Finals preview. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back, so guys, we are over.

Hold on real quick. I found some nigga that played basketball with you too, I meant to tell you. He's saying from 39th. Nick, pull him up, pull him up. He say from 39th between 7th and 8th. He say he played ball and said, Nick, what you? He say he used to play ball with you. Between seventh and eighth. Yeah, he say he used to play ball with you.

I don't know. That's the Punisher. Fuck. I got him coming on talk with Flea tomorrow. I got him coming on talk with Flea tomorrow. So if y'all wanna be interested in undue murder, the punisher, I'm interviewing him tomorrow on talk with Flea right after it is what it is. But he studied for 139 between 7 and 10.

He said, I ain't really come down legs play boy. He said, he got his name playing basketball. He said, but he used to play in St. Nick. He said he played ball in St. Nick. And he said, yeah, Mason, he probably don't want to admit it. He said from basketball, though it was all basketball related. So, y'all wanna see my interview tomorrow, 9 a.m., with the Punisher of Paws.

So the Punisher is from Harlem? 139 between Southern Fennef. That's crazy. That's crazy, yeah, man. The more you know. Literally, literally. Yeah, he said he from up the block. That's crazy.

But he said he ain't come down. He said he knew Gruff and big guys. He said he played ball once in a while, but he played ball mainly in St. Nick. Guys, white bread about him. Yeah, guys, white. To Mace's defense though, you guys can see his face was covered.

You look like you had no idea who that was. Yeah. I didn't think he would laugh. I didn't know the punish. You're like, I don't know who that man is. Oh, gosh. Make sure you all tune in to talk with me and watch that episode.

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We appreciate all y'all that watch the show every day. We got more content coming for you daily. So make sure you all stay tuned. So time to get into this NBA Finals preview. We know Thursday Pacers versus Thunder. I wanna get you guys a prediction, but I'm gonna get that towards the end of the question just to kind of see what y'all are feeling like.

So in this series, besides SGA, who do you think is the biggest X-Factor Mace? Besides SGA, when it comes to the 2025 NBA Finals, I think it truly comes down to the Halliband, man. This is what it's about. He said he was underrated. They said he was the most overrated player, all of this stuff.

This is where it counts. He's the X fact in this. If he plays phenomenal is a great series. If he doesn't play well, this series can be, this series is not gonna be good at all. It's really gonna boil down to the type of Halliburton that shows up.

Siakam is gonna do what he does. Besides SGA, I think he's the most important player on the floor. I always say X-Factor, it should be X-Factor for each team. I think the X-Factor for OKC outside of SGA, it would probably, my personal opinion, it would probably have to be Jay Will. Cause Chet, Chet's gonna give you what Chet could give you.

He's long, he's lanky, poor, Horan Stein is there for the backup move, Chet to the floor, I'd order three maybe sometimes even. But I really believe it was down to Jay Will. He, to me, I'm definitely putting Halliburton above him, but he's not consistent game to game. The last couple games, he's been consistent, but throughout the playoffs, he hasn't been consistent.

Now the X factor on the Indiana Pacers, I would definitely say it has to be Halliburton, just because of the inconsistency. And Halliburton has some great, great moments, but game to game, and don't get it fucked up. The moments that he had were backbreakers pause. Like, you don't get to the next round off the moments that he had,

but we can't have eight points games from supposed to be or wanna be superstars. It doesn't matter what's going on. Even with Shea, Shea's gonna get 30. Even when you don't think he got 30, but time you look up, how the fuck he get 28 in the middle of the third quarter? You look up and he's a factor.

This is the real series that Halliburton needed to be totally honest with you. This is the series to prove that, yeah, I'm one of them niggas. I'm one of the best. Not saying he's not one of the best point guards now, but you got the MVP right there on the other side of the court.

Not only on the other side of the court, you are facing him to win a championship. This is where you could step up and say, this y'all came? This the nigga y'all been praised on the last three years? This the nigga y'all gave the MVP to? Now you do that, not talking about by team effort, of course it takes a team to do it. Talk about you be the man.

Then I could go with the Hallibaner, son. I'm not going with that right now. Right now the Hallibaner's on the other side of the court. That nigga, Shay Gilders, has not come to play no games. You can't rattle him very smooth. And he's not Jalen Brunson. No disrespect to Jalen Brunson, because I think Jalen Brunson is all world. He's second team, and he's not Jalen Brunson. No disrespect to Jalen Brunson, because I think Jalen Brunson is all world.

He's second team or NBA. But he's not a little guard that you can just muscle. He's not one of them niggas that you have to hide on defense. He's a legit 6'6", 6'7", and you're not just going to bully him because he's smaller. He's not a small guard. He will be a problem. So that's the X-Factor on both sides of the ball for me. OK.

And now who do we think is the better head coach? Are we going with Carlisle or are we going with Dagnall? I'm going with Carlisle. I got to go with Carlisle. All the histories goes with Carlisle. And you know, being a president and a title town, I got to go with the person who last won the championship. How is and a title town, I gotta go with the person who last won the championship.

How is he a title town when won championship? You're right. I'm saying that, though. We're going with who's been there, who actually won one, he's the one that knows where to take the win one. So, and the time that he won it, it was with Supreme coaching.

He beat a team down there in Miami that was stacked. They were loaded. They had LeBron, they had Wade, they had, you know, they had, what's his name, Chris Bosh, they had Norris. They had all kinds of people down there. And the real thing that he was able to do is get Jason Terry to believe he can compete with LeBron. If you can get Jason Terry to believe he can outplay LeBron,

you can will this Indiana team to a championship. And that's how I'm looking at this. Like, whatever he told him in that time was amazing. Rick Carlisle's not even close. Like they said, he's a championship coach, not only a championship coach, he was kind of shoved out of Dallas. They'll never disclose it because he's a professional

and Mark Cuban handled it like a professional. But we know Luca Donnish and him wasn't on the same page. And that was basically the demise of his coaching career in Dallas. It was like, we got to go at the superstar, we got to go at the coach. And they ended up going with the superstar that's not even there anymore.

But who would think that you get, first of all, you think about preseason and guessing who's going to make it to the finals, even car finals and everything. And the Pacers the last two seasons was not on anybody's gonna make it to the finals, Eastern Conference Finals and everything. And the Pacers the last two seasons was not on anybody's radar to go to the Eastern Conference Championship, let alone go to the NBA Finals. When this season started, we say,

oh my God, Philly looks good, the Knicks just had a good season last season. We know Milwaukee got Damian Liller, he was going through personal problems. Him and the Greek Freak gonna be crazy. What about Boston? Boston's going for another championship run. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Indiana Paces back in the Eastern Conference Finals. Next year Indiana Paces in the NBA Championship. So we have to get the Rick Carlisle out. Now what's going on with the OKC coach? I don't wanna say his name, so I don't wanna say it. Miss Pena. Dagnaut.

Dag, what's it? Dagnaut. Dagnaut. Dagnaut. Naut. Naut. So the thing about him is we gotta give him credit too. He's been coaching five years. Dagnall. Nalt. Nalt. The whole thing about him is we ought to give him credit too. He's been coaching five years.

First game he won about 20 to 24 games, 30 then. The last two seasons has been really amazing. He was a G League coach with OKC, but he's still climbing. He still has time to get wherever it call out. He's been a young coach. The GM believed in him. And now he has the opportunity to prove himself. But we're going off experience, and I think

the championship experience definitely was displayed last round with Rick Carlisle after losing that first heart-breaking loss to the Knicks in the first game. And for him to come back and make adjustments each game, you can't do more than that. But, uh, Dagnall is on his way. and for him to come back and make adjustments each game, you can't do more than that. But Diagonal is on its way,

but right now the experience definitely goes to Carlisle. Okay, then we're always talking about the Stars, which rightfully so, we're gonna talk about the Starters, but in you guys' opinion, who has the better bench, the Thunder or the Pacers? Mm, they both have really good benches, but I think more, um... more points can come off the bench of Indiana.

I saw one of the guys, number three, that came off the bench for Indiana. He was just shooting the ball really, really well. And when you got people like that, that's coming off the bench, that can light up, that can get three threes. That's gonna make a difference in a close game, you know? When you look at Caruso, Caruso is scrappy for OKC, but I think more points comes off of the bench

of the Indiana Pacers. I think better defense comes off the bench for OKC. So it's just really a matter of what what they need that night. If they need points off the bench, then then OKC may be in trouble. And since defense wins the championships, then you will find yourself looking leaning more towards OKC. OK, and Kim. It's a tough one, man, but I'm after right presently.

More Indiana as well, because like they said, Caruso is a gem off the bench. Not only Caruso, they have some other hidden gems. They have other Williams that comes off the bench. He's great, too. But right now you gotta think about McConnell. McConnell, that little school teacher getting there and do what the fuck you gotta do, man. I like that little white boy, man. Cause that nigga ain't got no fear.

He was looking at niggas like, yo, soon, he don't even get in rhythm. When you sub him in, he's looking to score. Soon as he gets in the game. I'm like, who the fuck this little white boy think he is? And he get the basket. He didn't have the best game in the last game that they played or the last couple games,

but he's a, he could be a problem potentially because you underestimate him because he's short and white. Not only that, you thinking about OB Toppin. OB Toppin can have a good game from time to time and he brings in sides off the bench. Bryant, look, Bryant, right now I'm gonna have to go with Indiana, but I'm not mad. Yeah, Thomas Bryant, that was the name with Indiana, but I'm not mad at- Yeah, Tom is Brian. Yeah, and I-

That was the name. Yeah, but I'm not mad at OKC's bench either. But right now, just looking at what the bench's done against New York, we're on with the Indiana Pacers. Okay, and then speaking on specific player matchups, Mace, which one are you looking out for? Which one do you think is gonna be a good, well, matchup in the game?

The biggest matchup is the SGA versus on versus Halliburton Whoever wins that is who wins the series. I don't think it boils down to anybody else. I think somebody like like on The the the powerful what's his name? He plays streaky sometime The the the powerful what's his name? He plays streaky sometime Evans I'm in miles Turner He's the one that's supposed to make a difference in this series as well if he if he has an explosive first two games We could be looking at Indiana being the champs

I think if somebody that could really make a difference even though we're focused on the SGA thing and really make a difference even though we're focused on the SGA thing and SGA versus Halliburton is really going to ball down to Miles Turner. Put a star by his name because when we're looking back at this series he will be the indicator of if they are the champs. If he doesn't show up there's no way they could win it. It doesn't matter what anybody else does. The key matchup. See, that's the thing about matchups in the NBA today. It's almost like football. Because you'll sit there and say, Patrick Mahomes against Tom Brady

or fucking Lamar Jackson, whatever. And they don't really play each other. They're not even on the field at the same time. But that's the matchup you say. So when you sit there and say, not Mason, I'm talking about in general, Halliburton and SGA, they probably not gonna guard each other.

Maybe SGA guard Halliburton, but they know you're not putting Halliburton or SGA, even though I think these are the two names that is the matchup who's gonna be definitive to win the series. It's just a shame that we don't get the matchups to where niggas are scared to guard their own position these days.

And that's just sad, because if you wanna be the best, you gotta beat the best. And now they hide you on defense to where you don't have to be exposed that you're not that good of a defender. It's like right now I see some shit where they trying to ban, you know, the Hackers Shack murder where they file you a purpose,

how they was doing that to the center for the Knicks. I can't think of that bum ass nigga name right now. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson. How they was doing it to him and that. And I see they gonna try and do a vote this offseason to stop that, but they say it slows the game now, but no, I don't like that. Basketball is not football.

You have to play offense, you have to play defense, you have to play special teams, so to speak, just using football terminologies. You have to practice your free throws. It's part of the game. You can't just be like, nah, I don't wanna shoot free throws cause I'm not good at it. If that's the case,

Shaq would have averaged another 12, 14 points if he wasn't allowed to do that. Cause it started, it started called the hacker Shaqness, the hacker Mitchell and the hackerness, whatever. That is part of the game. You have ample time and ample hours to practice your free throws. If you can't get it done, then you just can't get it done.

If you're good enough in areas, you're good enough in areas, but you cannot sit there and say, let's not foul this nigga, because you know that he can't make free throws. So that's the matchup I think that's gonna determine the series stat. Okay. And then now time for the final question. So you guys gave your biggest X factor.

You guys both said Carlisle is the better head coach. You actually both said the Pacers have the better bench. Talk about your player matchups. Mace, who do you think? And it's just a prediction. It's not set. Who do you think is going to win it all? I got to stand with Indiana because I've been saying that all the playoffs,

but, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if OKC win. I think if OKC win, it's gonna be a blowout series, like 4-1. I think if one person on Indiana doesn't show up, they're gonna lose 4-1. But I want Indiana to win. Race, who you picking, bro? I said I want Indiana to win. I asked who you want, see, that's how you saved yourself. I didn't say they were gonna win,

that's what I wanted them to win. Who's gonna win? Not who you want to win, who's gonna win? Safety net, nigga. Okay, see, it's gonna win. Thank you, I can gonna win. Safety net, nigga. Okay, C is gonna win. Thank you. I can cut. That was a good question

because that was a crazy switch. I want Indiana to win, but I feel like okay, C is gonna win. I agree. I think okay, C is gonna win. I just think that, you know, Miles Turner doesn't know how to control himself. He gets himself in foul trouble a lot.

And I think that OKC really could play around with that four or five position with Hardstein and Chet. You know, even when Chet's out the game, you got Hardstein there. When Hardstein's not in the game, you got Chet. And when they're both in at the same time, Pauze, it's a miniature twinowers almost, you know what I'm saying? Dort has really showed his game throughout the playoffs.

Cause we talk about Shay and J. Will, them three, listen. It's a great matchup, man. It's a really good matchup. It's a blue collar's final. Yeah, it's a really a great matchup. man. It's a really good matchup. It's a blue collar's final. Yeah, it's really a great matchup and what Siakam has been doing has been really, really great. The difference is that you have to do that now

against somebody who's seven one. Chet is seven one. Because Chet starts at the four. When they got Hardstar starting and Chet starting, he starts at the four. And when you're six, seven, maybe six, eight, and you're dealing with an agile seven, one, we're talking about Chet.

Not only that, you might be a responsibility, a liability, not say a liability because he out complains his asshole. But if they ended up spreading the floor on the offense and not running, Chet can shoot the jump shot as well. That's a real, you know, outside of Shay and Tyrese Halliburton, that's a key matchup as well. Shay Holger against Pascal Siakam,

that's really gonna be able to tell who wins the series as well. That's a very, very key matchup. The young, tall, lanky guy pause, or the African on a mission, nigga, that already got a championship, nigga. Who wants it more? Pause. So, I think that's really... I know I said, uh,

Halliburton and, um, Shea, but I think that's really the marquee matchup. Siakam and Chet, and we'll see what happens, but I'm going with O'Kasey. Yeah, that's a good one. And actually, last question, because this was kind of trending, too. Are you guys excited to watch this series? Because a lot of people were like,

thunder and Pacers, I'm not watching the finals, that's boring, da-da-da-da. Like, what's y'all's thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, in the regular season, they beat the Pacers twice. So, I don't think... I don't think, um... OKC thinks the Pacers could beat them at all.

If they're looking forward to this series, they're like, we have a championship. It's ours to lose. That's how they're approaching this. Because during the season, they beat them, you know, convincingly both times. Okay. And Kemp.

One second. And Shaye had 45. Forrest, does anybody wanna watch this? Cause Mason didn't answer your question. Just so you know it. Yeah, you don't wanna watch it. Yeah, I'm saying. He wants a direct answer.

I don't wanna watch it. I understand spinning now, I've learned. I don't wanna watch it. They beat already the Pacers twice in a regular season. Each time they played, it seemed like Shea was having the game of the century. So it's like, why would I want to see that again? Is is nothing new? They didn't add nobody new.

They they're going to put the same people on on Naismith or Nie Smith on, on Shea and Shea gonna get 50. He probably might have 50 in this series. Yeah, that to me, all that shit is out the window because the Knicks couldn't beat nobody in a regular season that was top. They couldn't beat OKC.

They couldn't beat Cleveland. They couldn't beat the Celtics and he't beat Cleveland, they couldn't beat the Celtics, and they made it farther than everybody except for OKC. So, sometimes what happens in a regular season doesn't determine what happens in the playoff. But to answer the question, I'm gonna watch it because I'm a basketball fan, and this is the last of basketball.

If I'm a casual basketball fan, not Cameron Giles, a regular nigga who just watched basketball, no, no. Nobody outside of the state of Indiana, Oklahoma City really care unless you love basketball. You gotta think about this. Even though, like I said, I'm proud of Pacers for what they did, et cetera, you gotta think about this in no shade to the Pacers.

Think about how much litter this would have been in the garden. This would have been pandemonium. I told niggas if the niggas make it to the chip, I'm gonna go back. I said, I'll get a ticket for this, because this is gonna be actual pandemonium. You sat there and thought you'd been seeing some stars the last four or five weeks.

Nigga Michael Jackson might have came out the ground for this joint, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? That's how crazy the garden would have been. And I think a lot of people who are just casual basketball fans, watch to see like, oh, Chris Rock is there, Ben Stiller's there, oh my God, look at so-and-so,

look at the Jenners there, whatever. When you're in certain places, it's more or less, same thing like if it's in LA. When it's in LA, it's lit, because you don't Jack and Nichols, you don't know who gonna be there, it's lit. Certain places are more lit than others, but as a very big fan of basketball, I'm gonna watch it, I think it's gonna be

in the Triggin' series, so yes, I'll definitely watch it. But I understand those that don't want to. Okay, well the NBA Finals kicks off on Thursday. In the comments down below, let us know who you guys' picks would be. But that is all the time that we't want to. Okay, well the NBA Finals kicks off on Thursday. In the comments down below, let us know who you guys' picks would be. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching, and as always, it is what it is.

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