IT IS WHAT IT IS - OH NAH KNICKS FANS DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT TODAY!! | S4 EP10

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back But no confusion, it's a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Your murder here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome ass, I bought jewelry And bikes, nigga, black Benz's And white Vigas, now I'm out here And I'm looking for more chandeliers And light fixtures, nah I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? I'm a high nigga, but this 44 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka StatBaby, along with your hosts, Mace and Han. Murda, what up, man? Killer, what's good, man?
Starting point is 00:01:01 Hey, shit. Okay, Maurice, and then how you doing today before we get into the starting topic? Oh, listen, you know, every time I get on the show, I'm happy. Great introduction and great way to start the show. Hold it. No. Hey, you know, this helped me. Hey, I didn't want to brag about this.
Starting point is 00:01:24 What's that? That's championship shit? What's that, the championship ring? Yeah, this is from last year. I got another one coming for us. Oh, you know why I fuck with you, Mo? Mo, you know why I fuck with you? Because you the real title town.
Starting point is 00:01:41 That's the real title town right there. That's title town right there. I like that. That's the real title town. That's the real title town right there. That's title town right there. I like that. That's the real title town, nigga. You got two of them joints down. Mase, I don't see no title. Kansas City ain't saying nothing. You're title town away.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You know what I'm saying, man? Hey, look. Let's go, Moe. I ain't got this off of T-Mu, baby. You know what I'm saying? You ain't get that off of you, baby. Yeah, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I like that, man. No, I'm doing great, though, Stat. Thanks for asking. And I was going to make a joke. Mace, do you know what they was talking about, Oscar De La Hoya and Canelo? Because they were speaking Spanish, so I told everybody I was going to make sure I asked you because see if you knew. Yeah, a little bit. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:31 If you play it for me, I can tell you, you know, I'm definitely well versed. Pause. Hey, Nick, make sure you queue it up before the show, all right? You know I knew you was going to do that, right? Oh, man. So let's start with the Sixers and the Knicks. The Sixers have been eliminated from the playoffs as the Knicks beat them 118-115 in Philly. Are y'all ready to roll with the Knicks? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:06 My jacket came in. It's crazy. Today my jacket came in. They sent me a Kiff New York jacket. Somebody must have found it. They must have knew the Knicks was going to win. What do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:03:22 I thought they was buying all the tickets. That ain't work, huh? Because my boy have 40. Cam said they don't win. I don't even want to. I said they don't win in six. That was exactly what I said. Cam said they don't win.
Starting point is 00:03:36 When Brunson get 40 points, he have 41. I said they didn't win one time when he had 40 points. I said they don't win in six. That was my points. I said they was going to win in six. That was my exact words. Yeah. I'm not going to push the envelope. You're feeling it today. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:54 That's wild. You're feeling it today is wild. You're feeling it today is kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah, Mo. What did you think about the game Mo? I'm glad everybody on Philly showed up I didn't know where
Starting point is 00:04:10 Where your boy Buddy Hill was all this time He showed up But you know it wasn't enough And Maxie went back to being the old Maxie And And B did what he normally does, and it wasn't enough, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:27 The Knicks is on a tear. He's definitely not Jeremy Lin now. No, but I looked at it. It was like the nine-minute mark in the fourth quarter, and this was kind of like what I seen from Jalen Brunson just to Knicks in general, and I don't know why it's like it always gives me confidence in who's ever playing. Jalen Brunson wasn't even surprised.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Are none of the Knicks players like rather they, you know, catching players, cutting to the basket, making three-pointers, and like you're in the midst of somebody else's field. And like these dudes seem super relaxed. They had like that Kobe-esque look, like I'm supposed to be here. We're supposed to be making these shots. We're supposed to be closing the series out. And, like, at the nine-minute mark,
Starting point is 00:05:07 and even though when it got to, like, two minutes and, you know, the Sixers won a little run, act like they was going to come back, man, these dudes were in phase. And I just felt like, man, it's state time. And, you know, just, you know, hats off to the Knicks. I started thinking about seeing and how happy the brothers in New York is.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But Lord knows, about the nine minute mark, man, I looked at it and I was like, I don't think the Sixers are going to come back from this. I don't think that they'll be able to keep up with what the Knicks have going on. It just looked like the Knicks time today. We know Cam was high. Right? Is this
Starting point is 00:05:42 nigga Mace high? What the fuck is Mace smoking on? Because he is bugging the fuck out on this show today. So hold on. We know Cam was high, right? Is this nigga Mace High? What the fuck is Mace smoking on? Because he is bugging the fuck out on this show today.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Every day, this is what I get from after these episodes. Mase doesn't even go online to see what they say about it. Every day, it's 25 of these. 25 of the 30s. I'm going to send the clips so you can see whose ad it was. Every clip, they want to know if this nigga's high or bugging out. It seems cool when we up here because we vibing, but you don't know that they talking about me on his back.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I be trying to explain to them, yo, murder. you don't know that they talking about him behind his back. I'll be trying to explain on your murder. I'm your man. They talk, they talking about you behind your back. I'll just be trying to explain that to him because I love him. He think I'm trying to attack him. He be talking about the, he trying to do a double entendre on talking. Like I said, two things could be right at the same time and everything else. Look at murder.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He's like, I love when he go on his phone. He's like, I love when he go on his phone. I love it. I love when he go on his phone. Look, this was a- No, no, no. That just, whoever that is, is sad that their elevator don't go all the way to the top floor. That's what they, I got one of them about you too.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm going to look through it. They say your elevator don't go to the top floor. It's sad that whoever said that, it's sad that your elevator don't go to the top floor. It's sad that whoever said that, it's sad that your elevator don't go to the top floor. Sometimes we're having conversations that people, education just don't go that high. And it saddens me that he thinks that way. But anybody with a good brain knows it's possible
Starting point is 00:07:20 for two things to be right at the same time. You don't have to have a great education to be smart you gotta have all the degrees in the world and be dumb as i got ged i'm thinking i'm smart and smallest in the room half the time me personally i don't care what degree got how many bachelors and i didn't just expect this room i'm talking about other rooms i'm in that i'm in i would never disrespect my brothers and sisters in this room i'm just saying half the time when i walk in the room, I don't care if it's
Starting point is 00:07:46 all Harvard students, I believe I'm the smartest nigga in the room. So, I don't know what education has to do with it. He's making an observation on what he says
Starting point is 00:07:54 on television. It's sad that you think that you have to go through this white man system to have a high level of an opinion. Now, I'll get to the nitro quick. I'll get to the Nick trick real quick.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'll get to the Nick trick real quick. No, if what you're saying and you played on the phone is true. I'm going to send to Nick, we're going to play it real quick. No, I mean, that's good that he said that, but this is what I mean. Two things could be true at the same time
Starting point is 00:08:21 because you just went crazy on Elliot Wilson for having an opinion Elliot Elliot for having an opinion so if people could just chime in and say silly things then they that wasn't that wasn't an opinion that was more of a statement yeah that was an opinion I can't get mad at your opinion he made a statement oh do we need to remind these niggas that they sports casters that wasn't an opinion I was like yo that was more of a statement that's what i'm talking about with education you have a degree right yeah so you should know that's a statement and not an opinion i have a ged i'm telling you that that's not a this is what i'm talking about when it comes to education but we'll'll move on. I digress.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Back to the Knicks. Look, man, to be honest with you, I picked the Knicks to win in six. I didn't, I really, to be honest with you, I wanted the Knicks
Starting point is 00:09:15 to lose tonight. I'm in the house watching the game, me and Larry, and Larry said, who the fuck are you rooting for? Because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 I want to see one more of these, man. I ain't going to lie, man. This was, I don't know the last time I seen a series that had me like on the edge of my seat the whole game paused.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It was just really, really great to watch this series and I would be lying if I didn't say I want to see one more. But at the end of the day, I believe this series came down to the Knicks' defensive tenacity, them crashing the offensive boards,
Starting point is 00:09:51 them taking advantage of Joe LB's injuries. And the last thing, Tom Thibodeau outcoaching Nick Nurse. You sit there and you sit there game after game after game and watch Jalen Brunson score 40, score 40, score 40, score 40 again like May said again last night, and you make no adjustments. Tyrese Maxey went for 47 last game and he finished with 17 points tonight. He actually didn't score in the last 29 minutes of the game. He did not score. That's what you
Starting point is 00:10:26 call making adjustments. We not letting this nigga do this again. Y'all out your motherfucking mind? No. We're not letting you do this. And that's why to me, that was the real difference outside of the tenacity, outside of the offensive rebounds. Knicks had 20 offensive
Starting point is 00:10:41 rebounds also. 20 offensive rebounds. So the Knicks are dogs offensive rebounds also. 20 offensive rebounds. So, the Knicks are dogs. When it comes to Hart, when it comes to, when I'm talking about Josh Hart, when it comes to Hart, when it comes to OG, Mitchell to a certain extent, you have, it seems like you got dogs, like they got three Draymonds,
Starting point is 00:11:06 these niggas is crashing the boards, they're closing out on defensive assignments, dumb niggas is dogs, as much as, as bad as Josh Hart, scoring wise, I mean, didn't have a good game last year, he stepped up and hit that game winner tonight, confidence. So I have to give Tom Thibodeau a lot of credit for making the defensive adjustments on Tyrese Maxey. I asked Mace on yesterday's episode, if I'm not mistaken, if the Knicks don't close this out and Tyrese Maxey ends up winning this and plays great the rest of the series, does he snatch away all the superstardom that Jalen Brunson did did was showing us in the last three months and we kind of said it might be that way and i don't know if jalen brunson heard it
Starting point is 00:11:51 but he said no way nigga that's not what's gonna happen and he came to play j jalen brunson is such a crafty player to where he can control the tempo and once he gets you on his hip pause, you're basically pausing his mercy because you're on the side. He can take two steps back, hit the mid-range, go for a layup. You double team. He hits the open there.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He's really, really a great crafty player. And I'm really glad that he went to the Knicks. And the reason I say that, we don't get this Jalen Brunson if he stays in Dallas we may not get this Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:12:29 if Julius Randle gets hurt you know not saying he wouldn't have got his numbers but you gotta give if he doesn't get hurt
Starting point is 00:12:35 right you know what I'm saying cause Julius Randle gotta get his shots too you know he was probably the first option before Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:12:41 before he got hurt so you know that's what I'm saying about timing too. Sometimes it's just perfect timing for somebody. Because if you think about it, and New York fans will say no, the worst thing that could happen for me, if I'm Julius Randle,
Starting point is 00:12:58 is if the Knicks get past the Pacers, and that's bad enough. I'm talking about Julius Randle. And don't let it be some wild shit that they're having to beat Boston and make it because now we need all the assets that we could get to go around Jalen Brunson, and we're giving you up for those assets because we see we can make it without you. We haven't been making it with you. It's been the same coach. Jalen Brunson's been there for a while. They haven't got there with this combination. And it seems like Jalen Brunson is the one and Julius Brando, I don't know if he would want to defer to being the second option, but shit, right now there ain't no choice. So congratulations to the New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I don't want to get that hype right now because I seen them go to the second round the year before last. And they stunk it up. This seems like a different energy though. This definitely seems like a little bit of a different energy. And I'm looking forward to see what happens in the next round
Starting point is 00:13:57 because the Pacers ain't no slumps neither. The Pacers led the league in scoring this year. They run, they're fast, they're young, they're good. This should be a great matchup. I'm picking the Knicks to win, but it ain't going to be no cakewalk. I do just have to add, Tobias Harris, you played 29 minutes and made zero points. That is absolutely unacceptable. You could have been that three-point difference maker for your team to win, and you folded. That just cannot happen in these games. It's actually really sad,
Starting point is 00:14:27 especially because he's getting paid $37 million for what? To run back and forth for what? That's crazy. And now, and to add on to what you said, and that shit irks me
Starting point is 00:14:36 when niggas be 6'8", 6'9", and you can't get a layup this game. Like, yeah. Yeah, four free throws. Yeah, he, he, he shot. He took two shots, bro. You can't disappear like that. And that's what I was saying a few episodes ago
Starting point is 00:14:50 about whoever is the GM in Philly. How do you keep Tobias Harris and let Jimmy Butler get away? I don't understand that. I have no idea how that works. But you're suffering now for it. And no disrespect if this is my nigga because he's my nigga too.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Elton. What's that nigga's name? Elton Brand. Elton Brand. That's my guy, man. Shout out to Elton. But you can't make that mistake, bro. You can't make that mistake.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And then Mace brought up the tickets, but I want to get you guys' opinion on it. So the Sixers owners bought 2,000 tickets to get more Philly fans in the stands for the game. They handed them out to first responders, healthcare professionals, community groups,
Starting point is 00:15:30 and other local organizations. So what do you guys think of those efforts just in general, buying tickets for people to actually come to the game? I think it's, I think, go ahead, Mo. Oh, no, just, I think it was, to me, it was a good effort to try to minimize all the New York fans that was there. I think it was the last game that when I watched it, I was like, man, this feels like a New York game when it was actually in Philly. And I think that everybody's seen it on TV, and I think that he was trying to minimize that.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Like, so let me do a good deed uh you know do something good for the community for first responders and people probably can't you know afford playoff tickets but also let me minimize uh just this new york energy it was like it was like it was a new york energy in philadelphia and i don't think that um probably either sportscasters or news media the local people there i don't think that they appreciated that and they know that that energy that the crowd gives help so you know nice try, you know, nice try. But, you know, the guy still got to execute on the court. Yeah, I think this says everything about about Philadelphia from the aspect of that.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He had the bottles tickets. I don't know. Why is it such a important series that the people in Philadelphia dropped the ball and didn't go out and get the tickets? series that the people in Philadelphia dropped the ball and didn't go out and get the tickets. Like if you have to sit aside 2000 tickets, that's almost, that's, that's a lot of tickets for the, just give away, especially at, uh, uh, the type of, the type of series that this is, this is New York versus Philadelphia. And I think the fear was there that New York was going to buy up all the tickets and drive out there and make that arena feel like it's New York. And it seemed like that and they played like it. So this got me really concerned about the process. Is the process over at this
Starting point is 00:17:22 point? I don't even know how to look at that process. Everything I said, they didn't follow. They brought Joel Embiid back. It broke up the chemistry. He became the guy that was dominant on the ball. And a lot of the other guys just faded away. And they tried to come back, but it messed the chemistry up.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And they're going home because of it before buying the tickets look it was sad secondly when you do like that just because a work in a fire station or he's a first responder that don't mean he has fixes for him might have been new york fans in disguise You might have been giving the tickets to some New York niggas that just moved out there or they just don't even be in the sports. You got to pick and choose who you're giving these tickets to when you try and cheat like that. Cheating for home court advantage as well. As much as I don't like James Dolan as the owner,
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm not saying I don't like him. People don't like him. He would never. He would never. He would never get them tickets away. He would never, never buy my own tickets, miss out on more money. Why would I do that?
Starting point is 00:18:31 James Dolan would never. And as much as Philly is a big sports town, this goes to show how big a sports town is it if the owner has to buy the tickets. You know, Philly fans are really rough on their players similar to New York. But this did show a lot
Starting point is 00:18:49 that that last game, not last night's game, the game before, pardon me, the game before last when they were in Philly and when New York invaded. It just goes to show
Starting point is 00:18:58 that New Yorkers are serious about winning when it comes to basketball. We haven't won in such a long time. You don't get that when you go to, when the Giants play the Eagles. You don't hear the stadium to them up.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You don't hear no cheers for the Giants or Jets or anything when you go see the Philadelphia Eagles play. But when it comes to basketball, we're so hungry paws and thirsty paws because we haven't seen a championship in the last over 50 years that niggas is riding out. I thought it was a bad,
Starting point is 00:19:31 I thought if you was going to do that, talking to the owner, you should have kept it on the left. You shouldn't even told nobody you was going to do that. Secondly, it probably made a 25% difference from the game before last.
Starting point is 00:19:47 You still heard New York niggas in there. They wasn't as loud as they was in game four, but they were still in there. They was definitely in there, but I would have kept that to myself. I wouldn't even told nobody if I did that. Okay, and then the Pacers eliminated the Bucs from the playoffs after beating the Bucs 120-98. What went wrong for the Bucs? Well, I think injuries contribute. But when I seen the loss, and I didn't catch the game because I was actually at a speaking engagement, but I caught the highlights.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I didn't catch the game because I was actually at a speaking engagement, but I caught the highlights. And just like I've seen New York, but I've seen a New York game, and I've seen how explosive and fast and energetic and possessed that they look. When I looked at the Pacers' highlights, just the highlights that I've seen, it sort of looked like the same thing. And I think Cam just said it, that they're a very fast-paced team. And, you know, if you're putting up 120 points, obviously you're getting up and down the court, making a ton of buckets. But the other thing that I thought about was that,
Starting point is 00:20:46 is there anybody in this process who thought about Doc Rivers? And you had a good thing with the guy that they fired like mid-season. I don't know if it was right after the play-in series or right before an all-star break, something like that. But I asked myself, like, does anybody think like when you have a winning coach and he's going down the right track, and then you replace him for somebody else, and I know you had injuries, but you get, like, a totally different result or the result that you didn't want.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I wonder how much does, you know, the general manager or the owner say, man, like, did we contribute to this early exit? Because just like everybody else, I wanted to see Dame go ahead and, excuse me, Dame go out there, get a playoff run, and then eventually, you know, hopefully, get a championship. So I don't know. That was my take on it. Yeah, I looked at this series once.
Starting point is 00:21:33 They didn't have Giannis and Dame. They weren't going to win it unless they got a miracle for some of the other guys. Now, Chris Middleton, he went ahead and won, I think, one game for them. And after that, it was just a wrap. And because I don't think of Doc Rivers as a coach that can win unless he has supreme talent on the floor. At least he needs at least three superstars. And I know all coaches doesn't need that, but that's what it seemed like he needs. When it came down to, what's the guy named? Pause. Obi Toppins.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He had 21 career high. The other guy, TJ, had a career high. And when you got two players getting a career high at the same time, it was just going to be their night, you know. And shout out to Indiana. It is their first playoff series win in a decade. It's been a long time since they won. I think the last time they won, they had Lance Stevens and Paul George, the GOAT.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And I forgot the big, tall, black guy name. But shout out to them. Hubert. Yeah, Hubert. This ain't really about No stats for me Niggas is hurt Damian Lillard's Killies fucked up
Starting point is 00:22:49 Giannis Kaff Or quote unquote Kaff is fucked up I believe it's more than Just a Kaff Because if it was a Kaff I think he would've played I think this is closer to
Starting point is 00:22:59 Killies than a Kaff injury Doc Rivers jumped in the scene That coach like you said Mo Had a winning record Before they fired that nigga And y'all bringing in and a calf injury. Doc Rivers jumped in the scene. That coach, like you said, Mo, had a winning record before they fired that nigga. And y'all bringing in Doc Rivers for the name, I have no idea to this day.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Maybe we should call Stephen A. Smith and have him call the league office to see what the fuck happened before they fired the motherfucking coach before Doc Rivers came in
Starting point is 00:23:20 because that made no sense. It made no sense that Doc Rivers coached the All-Star game. What was that about? I'd like to call the league office to see what the fuck that was even about. I have no idea what that was about. But it all comes back to haunt you
Starting point is 00:23:34 later on. And the biggest thing, like you said, Mo, was injuries, man. But what I was telling my nigga Larry, too, is that it isn't just the injuries. It seems like Indiana has had Milwaukee's number all year.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Before the playoffs, they was three or four against Milwaukee anyway. And not only three or four, the one game that they did win against Milwaukee, Giannis has 64 points. So it took 64 points from Giannis
Starting point is 00:24:02 to beat Indiana the one time that they did beat them this season in the regular season but got a brand new coach implementing his system you're trying to have some respect for him because he's a championship coach with one championship Damian Lillard Mace alluded
Starting point is 00:24:18 to it early in the season going through a lot of personal things plus injury on top of it he didn't really look too happy the whole time being there uh i seen him numerous times trying to hold his laughing when yana's brother was on the floor doing what the yana's brother be doing i seen him put his head down on several occasions like yo is this what we doing for real and then the key factor is you got a top five player in the world not playing. So, Indiana did what they're supposed to do and win.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And we'll see what the series is next. What happens next with them in the next. I think that'll be an interesting series as well. How far back, Paul, do you think this pushed them when, if both of them have potentially Achilles um issue that run into next year right yeah i mean they saying dame aggravated his achilles i don't know what that actually means i mean i'm of course i know what aggravated means but you fuck your achilles up or you don't what i learned from my good buddy sham guard because i had a you know a couple years ago, I had a question for him about Achilles.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And another Sin argument. Sin is telling me that if you break your leg, it takes longer to heal than tearing your Achilles. And I'm telling him, it doesn't. So we called Sham. And Sham explained to me a couple years ago that they had some players on the Dallas Mavericks. One of them had an Achilles injury, and one of them had a broken leg. The guy with the broken leg came back he'll quicker he's playing. When you have an Achilles injury from what I learned
Starting point is 00:25:49 you have to rehab for the rest of your career. It's never no rehab stop rehabbing when you have an Achilles injury. So even if you get surgery you get it fixed you're feeling good you still have to rehab for the rest of your career. It's never stop rehabbing and I have no idea. It's never stop rehabbing.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And I have no idea. Only thing I could guess of with an aggravated Achilles is maybe he's rehabbing too much or he didn't rehab enough. And this is all speculation. I have no knowledge on it, but I don't know how you aggravate your Achilles. Not sure. Okay. And then looking ahead, I mean, we briefly spoke about it, but who do you guys think will win in the second round, the Knicks or the Pacers? Got to get you guys' prediction before the game comes up just to see where you guys' heads is at.
Starting point is 00:26:30 How does that? I'm going for the Knicks. And I really want to see, like, I don't know if it's historical, but I just want to see the Knicks at least get a shot at winning the championship. So I'm going for the Knicks. Yeah, I agree with Mo. I're going for the Knicks. Yeah, I agree with Mo. I want to see
Starting point is 00:26:47 the Knicks play Boston. Even though many people don't think they can beat them, I definitely want to see the Knicks win. I want the Knicks to win, but I don't know if this is any cakewalk. To me, you're not just going to go walk through Indiana. And if they do, they
Starting point is 00:27:03 do. But Indiana, like I said, this will be a very interesting matchup because Indiana led the league in points, and Tom Thibodeau's a defensive-minded coach. So will he make the adjustments to slow them niggas down and figure out a way to not have them score 130 points every game? So this will be real tactical. I think after the first game, we'll get an idea of what's going on. But if you ask me who I want to win, the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:27:33 If you ask me who I think is going to win, I'm going to say the Knicks. But it's definitely not no motherfucking cakewalk. I think it might be a little tougher than what they did with Philly because they're not injured like Philly was. And to Mace's point, the did with Philly because they're not injured like Philly was. And to Mace's point, the thing with Philly also, when you're Nick Nurse and you're Joel Embiid
Starting point is 00:27:52 and you're Tyrese Maxey, you have to have a meeting. You have to say, look, big bro, you hurt. Let me put this team on my back. Not saying you can't be the man that you are and I know you 7-1 and basically you're
Starting point is 00:28:08 our leader, but right now you're not 100% and I'm in a rhythm. You're going to be the second option and I'm going to be the first option. And that's the way it should have been played out. Because as much as Joel Embiid wanted to do what he wanted to do, he couldn't do it now. To the credit of
Starting point is 00:28:23 Joel Embiid, that speaks to his greatness. He has Bell palsy of surgical knee and he still had 35 points tonight. He had another 50 point game in this series, but it's not equal enough to the wins to win the series. So as a coach and as a player and as a second option player, that meeting needs to happen to say, let me put DeSorma back and let us take, let me take us to the next round. And Joel Embiid was still the first option, but I don't think he should have been. Okay. We're going to go to break. And when we return, we will discuss Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Don't go anywhere she called this thing about toxic four years and counting got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about wanting me free Why am I in this one? She wanted to be free.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Clippers will play the Mavs. Underdog fantasy has Luka at 53 and a half points, rebounds and assists. The turn was crazy. Do you have them higher or lower? Yeah, we haven't heard those numbers at all. Yeah, that was crazy. Higher or lower base? Points, rebounds, and assists. I'm going lower now.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I think they're getting crazy now. Okay. Lower. Josh Green is at three and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay. And James Harden is at eight assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Lower. I'm going to go higher.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret. So with Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback for the Steelers, Yep, and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret. So with Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback for the Steelers, a player revealed that the special teams coordinator suggested that Justin Fields could return kickoffs with the rule change preventing players from moving until the returner touches the ball. What do you think of that idea, Maurice, first?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Oh, that's the dumbest shit I heard all offseason um and um yeah they used to say um when I was in the joint yeah it really is but they would say in the joint you know um somebody would call you a bitch and you would get mad uh but somebody would treat you like a bitch and you won't say anything so you know never let an individual treat you like a bitch and you'll get mad, but somebody will treat you like a bitch and you won't say anything. So, you know, never let an individual treat you like a bitch. And when I sat there and see, yeah, that's what they used to say, you know, unless my carry like a bitch. And what happened was there is no upside to this. You know, I was serious when I was cursing, but I'm also serious now. Everything is risk management when you get to the level
Starting point is 00:31:45 that these guys are at. He's a first round pick. He's a quarterback. He had a shitty situation in Chicago. But like, what is really going to happen? He gets back there and he returns a punt. Even if he becomes Devin Hester, he detracts and distracts from who he is as a quarterback. You want to get paid as a quarterback, you want to get paid $30, $40, $50 million. Russell Wilson is on the backside of his career. Who's to say that Russell Wilson is even healthy? I know Mike Tomlin plans on giving Russell Wilson a shot. He's the veteran. He's the older guy. He's been to the Super Bowl, so on and so forth. But I would be learning from, what's his name, Russell Wilson. I'd be learning, learning the offense and I'd be preparing myself to go in.
Starting point is 00:32:28 If Russell Wilson goes down and gets an injury and whatever it is, but I wouldn't even let them play with me like that. You know, Paul's, I wouldn't even let them put me back there and laugh, joke, none of that stuff, because that's what people do. They'll play with you just to see your reaction with something, you know, pause. And if he, if he's like, you know, warming up to it all, I can catch this and, you know, I can get that out there on the field. They'll put him in a box just like they did Antoine Randuel and Hans Orr.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And I'm not downing those guys. Those guys had great careers. But the money that people are paying quarterbacks now and the career that you can have and play until 40 and 45, I wouldn't want a nigga to put me back there and return kicks if that's not, you know what I want to do. So that's my, my, my take on it. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't see how this helps. Even with the new rules changes about having two,
Starting point is 00:33:19 two players in the end zone, it still don't make no sense to me. I mean, does that make, does that make any sense to you that they're now adding a player in the end zone, it still don't make no sense to me. I mean, does that make any sense to you that they're now adding a player in the end zone? No, I mean, just think about this, bro. You go from first-round quarterback and starting for, you know, three years to two, three years. However long he was out there
Starting point is 00:33:40 in Chicago, and then you got me back here. Man, you can go get an athletic receiver to do this shit. You know what I'm saying? You don't see guys breaking a hundred yard runs and fucking running down the field all crazy like they used to do. But like I said, even if he did do that, like even if he goes out there and he returns two or three kicks, there's no added value moving forward to the position that he really wants to play. Nobody's about to go out here and say, let me sign my star quarterback to a
Starting point is 00:34:05 40 million dollar deal and let me have him return kicks you know you can only diminish your value you can go out there and get hurt you know so like like it's just risk management but even for them like even for mike tomlin to play with him like that you know i don't know i just take everything serious i don't i don't take what people do and take it lightly because i just understand at that level, everything is serious. So you had to say something like that in a meeting to get a reaction from somebody to then walk on the field and then to do that. And if you think you got it off, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:33 what is y'all really trying to say? So I don't know. Maybe I'm too serious or maybe I, you know, maybe, maybe it's too deep. I don't know, pause, but that's, that's how I see it. All this says to me, this ain't even really that hard for me. All that shit is saying is that Justin Fields is not playing quarterback. And it's not hard to tell if you're a football fan. Once the quarterback is in that bearing injury or bearing playing disgustingly terrible, you usually play the same quarterback for the whole season.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So you have a great quarterback. It don't matter how good you are. If your team's playing decent and yelling the rhythm and you're not stinking it up, you're going to play your quarterback the whole season.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And what they're trying to do is find ways to get Justin Fields on the field. Like, hey, man, you know you can run it back. We heard about you in high school, nigga.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Heard she was one of them niggas, nigga. Heard she kicked the... Heard she... And like you said, man, you know you can run it back. We heard about you in high school, nigga. Heard she was one of them niggas, nigga. Heard she kicked the... And like you said, Mo, you looking at niggas like, what? So basically, y'all are telling me in April, for me it's May, y'all are telling me in May, I'm just not going to be playing quarterbacks. We going to start figuring other ways for you to get on the field.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's what this is basically telling me. When niggas try to get Tim Tebow to play linebacker in the preseason till a nigga knocked him paws on his ass and he said, nah, I'm good. I'll go back to broadcasting. When I seen Tim Tebow lined up at the, at the,
Starting point is 00:35:58 at the scrimmage yard as a linebacker, I said, what the fuck is going on? And to me, this is just a way of Mike Tomlinson and his staff saying, that nigga ain't going to be playing.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He's not our starting quarterback. Now, of course, when it gets to training camp, you're going to have to have competitive shit to see, okay, cool, who's starting and who's starting.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But with this type of announcement, they already announced the starter, if you ask me. It's going to be Russell Wilson, and we're going to figure out ways to try and get Justin Fields on the field if Russell Wilson doesn't stink it up. Because now, this is them.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, we got a punt returner that can play quarterback. Nah, nigga. You got a quarterback that's playing punt returner. Don't try to finesse us, nigga. We see what's going on. You just trying to figure a way out to get that nigga some playing time because if Russell Wilson play good, and there ain't going to be no light for him.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That's just the way it go, man, when it comes to quarterbacks. And, Mo, you correct us. I mean, you correct me if i'm if i'm getting this wrong he's supposed to get a quarterback book click but instead he's meeting with this um the special teams coordinator is that correct well i i don't know how how it actually happened you know maybe like stack can pull up the the art yeah i was gonna say i feel like that was like information that we were not supposed to know because Jalen Warren shared it on a podcast. And I forgot exactly how the conversation went, but he said like, oh, yeah, the special teams coordinator was actually, you know, thinking of putting Justin Fields at the position. And I just feel like that shouldn't even have been shared to begin with.
Starting point is 00:37:41 But I want to let you finish your thought now, knowing that information. Yeah, so he got the wrong booklet. He came in as a quarterback and got a special team package wow yeah well you put like this you ain't even it's like stuff like the the practice is so structured it's so delicate and the and the depth chart is so outlined and the reps that you're gonna get on the field at practice, you just don't walk out on the field and just freestyle as a coach. That's what I'm talking about. You run this by somebody and somebody is saying,
Starting point is 00:38:13 I don't care, just let me see what it looks like. Pause. You know what I'm saying? That's where I would get mad because you know how intentional everything is at that level. And when you know that just can't nothing go on without it being approved by somebody, it makes you go back and say, man, you've got, like, what Cam just said, you've told me without telling me
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm not playing quarterback right now, but I didn't come here to be a special teams player, nor get put into that box. You can go to all these dudes' pockets. Like, when you go to, you know... You go listen to LeSean McCoy. Go listen to D-Jack on a podcast and you start to hear these
Starting point is 00:38:51 stories about people manipulating players or just doing a little sneaky shit, but you don't see it at the time. This is the start of something where you'd be like, damn, how the fuck did I end up way over here? Yeah, because the motherfucker directed you over there. You know what I'm saying? But you just didn't see it at the time.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But this is one of those things. Oh, let's just see him as special teams. And, you know, if he warms up out there, maybe it's another guy we can get inside of the draft.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Yeah, man. I'll say what I say. This is all finesse. This is all finesse. I can teach finesse. I can teach finesse I can teach finesse
Starting point is 00:39:25 the fucked up shit is that I'm just I would love to have seen Justin Fields reaction when he walked into the quarterback room
Starting point is 00:39:34 and they said no no no they want you down in special teams for a minute they didn't want to holler at you about something yeah
Starting point is 00:39:42 I don't know stuff like this I just think it needs to be a lot more tight-lipped because even I mean Justin Fields might not have even known this information Himself that could have just been a side conversation and just as a quarterback you're getting into your footing like all that outside noise I just hate when that kind of gets told to other players So i'm hoping the best for him because I just want the best situation for the steelers regardless
Starting point is 00:40:01 But um, we will see what happens because if he is doing that, that'll be crazy, but I doubt it. Okay. So looking ahead to the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul fight again, Tyson is listed as the underdog while Jake Paul is the favorite. Jake Paul said he warned Tyson about fighting him in a sanctioned pro fight and said, this is war now. Said a couple other things in that interview, but who is your favorite as of right now then what do you guys feel about jake paul sending mike tyson that message race first well yeah obviously mike tyson is my favorite and where i thought that this was a joke or not a joke but i thought it was like um i thought it was like on the level of like him
Starting point is 00:40:44 and roy jones where they respectfully threw punches at each other and, you know, didn't turn up another notch. I actually think like Mike Tyson and Jake Paul are taking this serious. And I just don't think it's a publicity stunt to call it a real fight. I think like they both like, all right, just as this white scrawny guy who started out on YouTube and came up and became a star for, you know, knocking, you know, Nate Robinson out or, you know, that's not a shot at him. But, you know, just knocking these other guys out. I got a chance to knock down a black hero. You know, I think that that might be somewhere in the back of his head. I can knock down like the niggas nigga. You know what I'm saying? And I think Mike Tyson, like, you know, I'm about to whoop this little white boy's ass. He out here like operating in my space and operating his boxing space. He really don't know
Starting point is 00:41:32 what the fuck this is like. And so I think like them actually making it a real fight. I really believe that they both are like, it started out joking, but I think like, you know, as this thing progressed, I think it's a,, it's a lot more serious than I think that, uh, some people may believe. Yeah, I think this is really crazy. Um, this is just after his 10th fight that he's now fighting Mike Tyson. Some people say, oh, it's an old Mike Tyson. I think at any, at any point, if Mike connects clean, it's going to be a different fight. Sure, he could tie Mike out and probably win that way. But if he knocked Mike out, that's also going to be a lot of credit to his name.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And a lot of, he's going to get credit for that. People are not going to overlook it and say, oh, Mike Tyson. He's going to definitely get credit for that. So this is really interesting. At first, I thought it was a joke, but now, it seems like they're taking it serious, so we got to take it serious. Oh, yeah. Look, they got to talk shit
Starting point is 00:42:36 to promote the fight. If you go on Mike Tyson's page, he talks shit about Jake Paul White's training every day. He talks about day two, Jake, I'm coming for you. Day one, I'm about to have some fun day three i know you don't want a piece of me pause day four you in store for more this is all on mike tyson's page of when he when he's training like on some candy man shit every day when he's in the gym so you gotta talk shit to promote the fight as much as as much as niggas say whatever
Starting point is 00:43:01 about ryan uh whatever it was a great tactic what he did whether he's really crazy or not the way he promoted the fight and a lot of times you you have people that could be great boxers there's not great promoters at fighting floyd's a great promoter when he boxes because he knows he knows what it needs to be done conor mcgregor even though he's not a boxer you'll see he knows how to promote a fight. Even though this guy lost a couple fights and I would say if this nigga boxing skills
Starting point is 00:43:29 would match his promotion, he'd probably be all world as Adrian Broner. Now that's a nigga who know how to talk to promote a fight. So these things have to be said for people to buy tickets,
Starting point is 00:43:39 to make people think you don't like each other, to sell seats. So I don't take much of what Jake Paul said as serious or not serious. It's about we want to get entertained. I don't want to see somebody come into a boxing match and be like, I love this nigga.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I don't mind niggas hugging after the fight and everything else, but leading up to it, I want to see niggas who don't necessarily like each other. I don't really even like when boxers fight each other and give each other a five in between rounds. I don't even be liking that too much. Like when the niggas, when the round's over, when they walking back to their corner,
Starting point is 00:44:11 they give that one. I don't like that. I'm not into all that. And if you look at the rules, look, it's eight rounds and each round is two minutes. So to me, that may work in Mike Tyson's favor as far as his stamina, but it's going to work to Jake's Paul's favor with 14-ounce gloves.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You know, you're fighting with pillows on your hands, so to speak. So it'll be an interesting fight. We'll see how it goes. But I think Jake Paul is definitely taking this serious. And I think Mike Tyson is also taking this serious because he don't want that on his reputation. Let me ask you this. I was about to ask because he missed the part.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah. What does this do for Jake Paul? Jake Paul, hypothetically speaking, knocks out Mike Tyson. Do people take you serious after that?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Well, for me personally, I would say that he hasn't fought a boxer yet. He's fought basketball players. He's fought UFC niggas. And he's fighting a 55-year-old retired boxer. When you get in there with a
Starting point is 00:45:10 real boxer that's credible, that's ranked, that has a championship, that's number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 in the WBA, WBC, all them different titles, then I can take him seriously. Until then, then I can take him seriously.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Until then, I can't take him serious as a boxer. I'm not mad at him because he's a marketing genius. This is another nigga that knows how to market and get to the bag. You can't get mad at a nigga that know how to market and get to the bag and stay safe at the same time. So me personally, no, I'm not taking him serious. You're knocked out out and the only reason they get me mad because you keep knocking black niggas out just not boxers you know i'm saying
Starting point is 00:45:51 that's what's pissing me off you keep knocking nigga beat up nate robertson nigga snoop said oh lord play box yeah you'd be you quote unquote be um silver uh spanish dude You'd be, you'd quote unquote be, um, silver, uh, Spanish dude, you'd be too. Uh, I just think that for me, Cameron,
Starting point is 00:46:11 to take him serious as a boxer, you need to fight a current boxer that is boxing. But at the same time, given Jake Paul credit, if I can make 20, 30, 40, 50,
Starting point is 00:46:22 60, $70 million, uh, uh, a fight or whatever he's making without risking it, why risk it? You think Mike is no risk, killer? No, I'm not. Mike's a risk anytime you're in the room with Mike. Mike is a risk. But what I'm saying is this.
Starting point is 00:46:45 What I ask you is this, Murda. I ask you this. Would you rather him... What's more of a risk? Seriously. I'm just asking your opinion. You got to... Is this opinion orientated?
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah. What's more of a risk? Mike Tyson or Terrence Crawford? Just asking. There's no right or wrong answer terrence crawford there's more there's more of a risk mike tyson but was more of a risk mike tyson the canelo canelo that's my point that's exactly that's what i'm talking about yeah when i'm saying bite the nose off you know mike no no i could go left when i say not a risk i'm talking about a your
Starting point is 00:47:25 age oh yeah talking about a that's that's really boxing as your weight class yeah that's all i'm saying mike mike's a wild card boxing or not yeah it's definitely a risk i call mace from the airport and said i'm scared i don't know if you've been watching the show I don't know if you've been watching the show. So let me rephrase that. It's definitely a risk. Definitely a risk. Yeah, but I'm talking about... That's what I was speaking to.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah, no, I'm speaking more to the fact of his boxing career. That's what I was speaking to. Okay. And then NBC is preparing to offer $2.5 billion for NBA rights to challenge TNT. This is double of what Warner Rose is currently paying. In addition, Amazon has prepared a bid for future NBA rights. So what do you guys think of all the bids? And then do you see NBC being victorious? Maurice first. Oh, I see it by far. When you can offer double of what somebody is making, you strategically say to yourself, hey, this is how much money we'll get in ad revenue. And obviously, when you offer $2.5 billion or double, you probably could have offered more.
Starting point is 00:48:41 when you're making that type of investment, you already understand ROI on this, on this investment, return on investment. And I think that they're seeing the same thing that we are seeing. You see young stars, you see, this is the post LeBron,
Starting point is 00:48:54 post Curry, post Katie era. You have this new crop of talent. Everything is digital. When you're talking about people like, and we talked to, I talked about this like early in the season with ESPN making all of their content or trying to get all their content by 2025 driven through the app. And a lot of that stuff being driven by the deal that they've tried to pursue with the NFL. This is NBC's way of saying, hey, man, this is our football is locked up because ESPN has gotten that and they're probably going to buy NFL films.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So we need to go ahead and get one of these leagues that generate a shit ton of money. And we need to make an offer that you can't refuse. But the biggest part that I love about this is that the same sort of deal structure that's happening in the NFL is also happening at the collegiate level. And I don't want to leave that out of the conversation. So there was a new ruling that came up that the NCAA will potentially have to start doing profit sharing. And I can see on all websites, they took this case in the back of everybody's headlines. This is stuff that's not even talked about, but this stuff actually just took place. And they may have to redistribute 2.5 billion themselves to former players in former schools over the past 10 years and moving forward to saying shit that i've been
Starting point is 00:50:10 talking about all season the same stuff that harbaugh was talking about all season and you're going to have like 22 of the revenue and it's not enacted yet but they say they're going to have a decision within this month or go to trial in jan. Uh, but they'll have to share 22% of their revenue with current college kids because the NCAA violated their antitrust laws. So I'm just happy niggas get money. Wish I would've got it when I got it. But all these little young niggas come from similar places, like everybody probably doing his show. So to see these young dudes be able to, you know know get this money and share an upside of um all the fucking work that they're doing i'm happy for that um and i don't know you know but to answer your question stat i think nbc is going to reign victorious because when you start taking all these
Starting point is 00:50:55 sport things off the offline and these things generate so much money i think they're going to be willing to offer as much money as needed to make the deal happen. Yeah, I totally agree with you on this. And I think because there's been so long since NBC has carried an NBA game and allowing CBS Sports and all of them to take over in some of those capacities when it comes to sports and basketball and things of that nature, I think they're really eager to get back in that space, Paul. And another thing that I was thinking about,
Starting point is 00:51:31 they're not the only people making an offer. Amazon is also trying to get their bid in to make sure that they could bring it back. It seems like Amazon is getting a lot of money to be able to counter that offer. No, so actually, you bring up a good point. Uh, and really Amazon is the driver because Amazon has more money than all these motherfuckers. Yeah. You know, Amazon, if, if Apple and Amazon actually just said, man, we want to step on a
Starting point is 00:51:59 block and bully all you make is if we want to get in that space, they can actually just bully everybody. So Amazon saying that they want a part of the market share. Like if you go back and look at what Amazon did, I think it was Amazon, and I might be wrong on this, but I think I'm right. I think Amazon was the people to offer Tom Brady a loan deal or to offer him something which got him thinking about getting to the media space. They took Curb Street from ESPN. They started having him announce NFL games. So what they're doing is strategically getting talent and saying,
Starting point is 00:52:30 hey, man, let us get this notable talent. Let's bring them on our platform and let's warm them up to doing games so we can start bringing eyeballs over here. But you're talking about motherfuckers who can tie in subscription services as Amazon trucks in every city, and they can offer money and take losses of money a lot longer than these other people. And so Amazon is really the driver. And I know I was trying to make the point about the NCAA because I love it so much. And I was affected by the shit, but Amazon actually is the driver because they got the most money and they basically dictate and like, Hey, if you all, if you all want to keep like these a class games,, y'all keep that shit.
Starting point is 00:53:05 We'll take these bullshit games. We'll get into the market. We'll acquire talent. And then, you know, a few years later, we'll just offer, you know, double what the fuck NBC's offering, if it makes sense for us, if we can monetize it. You're 100% right, Mo. And what it is, is that everybody, older people that's still NBA fans aren't 100% with streaming just yet or know how to use it or saying, how do I get a prime account or this, that, and the third? So absolutely correct because the NBA would love to stay on linear television, meaning cable or regular TV. So the NBA is trying to figure out how to do it. And you made a great point. They'll say, look, give us the bullshit games for now
Starting point is 00:53:47 to start basically manipulating the crowd towards streaming. But yeah, you're right. They did the same thing with football. You got to think about this. Last year in the NBA season, when Kyrie Irving made that tweet about
Starting point is 00:54:02 the guy's book or whatever it was and the slander that he got about Jewish people. Yeah. And I'm not saying he's correct or wrong. I have no opinion on that. I don't got time for that. I'm just retracting the story that happened last year. When all Kyrie Irving did, and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him,
Starting point is 00:54:22 he retweeted a book that wasn't, or a movie or whatever it was, but that wasn't necessarily accepted by Jewish people and caught a bunch of backlash with it, suspended. Team put him on punishment. The NBA fined him, had to have meetings with him to make sure he wasn't racist, all this stuff. But the NBA didn't say nothing to Amazon because they knew it would be potentially business that goes on with them in the future. And the NBA, and what Kyrie Irving tweeted, you would go watch that
Starting point is 00:54:58 on Amazon. So as much backlash as Kyrie Irving got about it, they just say, well, leave Amazon out of it. Even though Kyrie Irving was directing traffic to Amazon to watch whatever, they had no problem with Amazon. No, no, no, no, this ain't Amazon. This Kyrie on some black shit. He acting crazy. So if Kyrie's a culprit, Amazon should be a culprit too. And like I said, I'm not saying Kyrie was right or wrong. I'm not in that. I have no opinion on it whatsoever. But I'm just saying, if you're going to hold Kyrie accountable, hold accountable to people that's actually selling the shit that you mad about. But it's bigger business going on. And I peeped that last year. So Amazon's about to step in a
Starting point is 00:55:40 few years and swipe everything up. So whether it's NBC, Disney, ABC, ESPN, they got a few years left, my personal opinion, until linear is out for basketball and it's going to be streaming. That's what everything know. I don't know how long it's going to be, but it's going to be eventually. I have a follow-up question that I think is pretty interesting because I think we've seen a lot of the sports broadcasting space change a lot. So with this, inside the NBA is dependent on TNT
Starting point is 00:56:10 retaining its NBA rights. So obviously that's Jack, Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley. So like, if TNT loses its NBA contract, Charles Barkley said, I just signed a 10-year deal
Starting point is 00:56:21 two years ago. But one of the things I did was put an opt-out in a couple of years because I wanted to cover my ass when it comes to this situation knowing that it would be ending soon but then Ernie Johnson would remain at Turner either way so what do you guys think of that situation if inside the NBA were to break up and then what's next for that well I'll see I've seen Charles Barkley when that happened what you're talking about actually seeing him talking about that and um now let me correct that i read about what he
Starting point is 00:56:51 said and he was like he don't want to be working when he's 77 years old so he don't want to sit there signing a new contract with amazon he was like turner is his home. TNT is his home. So from what Charles Barkley was saying when this initially was brought to him a couple years ago is that he wouldn't do a deal
Starting point is 00:57:12 outside of TNT and outside of Turner. That was two years ago. If a nigga's come to a nigga like, yo, yo, my nigga. Now, if Amazon come to the nigga like Ted DiBiase,
Starting point is 00:57:25 like everybody got a number, nigga. Fuck is you talking about? 100 million a year, nigga. Nigga's going to jump. But initially, I know his allegiance and loyalty is to TNT and the NBC. And that's what you're supposed to say at the time. Everybody says that at the time. And so a better deal comes along and you'd be like but
Starting point is 00:57:47 you gotta understand you gotta you gotta hear me out on this they came with some pause with some wild numbers so i i'd like that because it's a lot of times like for instance right and i know lebron's a master manipulator shout out to rich paul i spoke to rich paul today too that nigga's a rich paul he should really just be a comedian That nigga's a... Rich Paul, he should really just be a comedian. That nigga's a funny nigga. He does stand up, but he should do stand up, I'm saying. Back to LeBron.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You see how LeBron left niggas hanging pause at the end of the season? I don't know if my last game gonna be a Laker. I can't tell you. He know what he gonna do, but he leaves the public hanging pause thinking like, oh, you heard what Braun said?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Or just said, we on the way here now, driving here. Larry talk about, yo, they talk about he could go to Dallas because the sun might want to go down. This is, and I'm not saying Larry,
Starting point is 00:58:36 this is the shit that we're reading, that he creates room for speculation if you don't nip it in the bud. Like same thing with Deion. Nigga asked Deion, yo, you gonna leave Colorado and go here? Deon, even if Deon don't do that, stay at Colorado. I'm not going nowhere, I'm here. You're not gonna harass me for the next four or five months
Starting point is 00:58:57 talking about what you're gonna do. So if you don't nip shit in the bud, pause. You do shit to leave room for speculation for people to talk about it. But with this situation that you just asked about Stack, Charles Barkley said his home is TNT, but Amazon got the money.
Starting point is 00:59:12 We'll see what happens. And Maurice Mace. Yeah, it's the same thing, man. The landscape has changed, right? I know Cam just said he wouldn't want to talk sports when he's 70. Somebody give him a $20 million check. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I'm talking about Charles Barkley said that. Oh, yeah. But I was building on that. Yeah, no, I know if you said I didn't want to talk sports when I was 70. I'm like, I ain't near 70 yet. I'm just making sure you talk about Charles Barkley. My bad. Yeah, Charles, if you offer anybody $20 million at 70, you know what I'm just making sure we talk about Charles Barkley. My bad. Yeah, Charles, if you offer anybody $20 million at $70 million,
Starting point is 00:59:48 you know what I'm saying, you're going to go ahead and talk sports. You know what I'm saying? Because you're probably going to be talking about them anyway. You know what I'm saying? So you might as well go ahead and get to $20 million for it. You know what I mean? But the landscape is changing. Like, nobody can connect the dots,
Starting point is 01:00:02 or the average person can't connect the dots. They look at people who do independent media. But this is what's driving all this stuff. You know, these people need eyeballs on a product. These people need eyeballs for advertisers. These people need to take market share away from people because you have independent independent platforms disrupt this stuff in a major way. Because if they watching us, just like there's people watching us right now and there's numbers watching now those eyeballs aren't on those other people so what they're trying to do is get all of the talent that they feel can come to their networks
Starting point is 01:00:34 and get every asset that they feel can keep eyeballs on their product and they're going to offer people gargantuan amounts of money and you know big know, big ups to y'all for even having me on here that give me a whole fan base to make me more relevant. I've been in the past, but that's the name of the game. You know, everybody's looking for viewers and these people are just playing
Starting point is 01:00:56 at a different level. So, you know, Charles Barkley, shout out. Hope you still getting 20 million at 70 because y'all wasn't getting paid, you know, tons of money back when these guys were playing. So I just like to see guys get paid. That's just me.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I don't really have much to say. If you could get the money at 70, you got to get as much as you can while you can. I'm just going to add, I hope inside the NBA, because I feel like as far as broadcast linear television, I feel like that is
Starting point is 01:01:27 one of the, not one of the, I think that's the most entertaining, you know, basketball show. So if it splits, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:01:34 dang, because everything is just very, yeah, it's my favorite. Like they're having fun up there. Like obviously
Starting point is 01:01:41 they're really good at what they do. And so to see everything like this 24 7 i think that landscape is changing so i hope it stays but if not i mean i'm gonna have to figure something out but maurice thank you for being here well thank you so much man we appreciate you bro all right you gotta show this one last time real title town nigga real title town nigga Title town nigga Real title town nigga Real title town nigga Shout out to UConn That's all the time
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