IT IS WHAT IT IS - PACERS LET GAME 1 GET AWAY & HARRISON BUTKER'S SPEECH WAS WILD! | S4 EP23

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back But no confusion, it's a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Your murder here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome ass, I bought jewelry And bikes, nigga, black Benz's And white Vigas, now I'm out here And I'm looking for more chandeliers And light fixtures, nah I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? I'm a high nigga, but this 44 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Killer, what's good, man? What's good, man? How you doing this morning? Yeah, I'm doing great, man. Yeah, me too. I feel real good, man. It almost went, man. How you doing this morning? Yeah, I'm doing great, man. Yeah, me too. I feel real good, man.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It almost went the way I thought it was going to go. Talking about, yeah, that was crazy. Pause. I ain't saying nothing. It's early in the morning. We're making this always early in the morning for us every day no further comment
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'll use that okay alright well let's just get started I don't use that okay alright well let's just get started so Pacers lost to the Celtics in overtime 133-128 in game one crazy ending but what did you guys think
Starting point is 00:01:59 about the outcome of the game man this was a really, really good game. When I think about it, and very seldom does everybody shows up. This was one of those games everybody was playing really good. You got Holiday with 28 points. That was really surprising.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I was expecting him to show up, and he definitely did. Paul's show up. Miles Turner had 23. Pascal Siakam had 24. This was just a really great game. Even when you think of Tatum, Tatum showed up the way I wanted Paul's. I wanted him to show up. Even when we were doing the underdog fantasy,
Starting point is 00:02:47 shout out the underdog fantasy, when we were making the picks, I remember that question you asked. Do you see Tatum having 46 points? And that was including points and rebounds and some other things, and it just looked like he got close to that, and that was really good to see. But when you think of Halliburton, Halliburton was going crazy. That's who I really was expecting to play this good, and I really would have liked to see Indiana win the game
Starting point is 00:03:26 when it's all said and done. I think they were right there. This was a game that if they lose this series, looking back, they'll say we were supposed to get that game. This was the game they were supposed to get. Yeah, back to your point with Underdog, I also picked the under. So I was wrong with, I believe it was 46 totals, points, rebounds, and assists.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And he had 12 rebounds. Tatum, we're talking about 36 points and four assists. So it definitely was an over. I definitely messed up with cold cam, but it was overtime. That's what happened. He had eight points in overtime as well. This loss is solely on Rick Carlisle.
Starting point is 00:04:09 100%. Like, y'all niggas had the game. This is not, I'm not blaming the players on Indiana, their young team. This is solely on the coach
Starting point is 00:04:17 because if I were Indiana Pacers fan and I'm watching this game, I'm losing my motherfucking mind. I'm losing my mind watching the end of this game. And it seems like y'all
Starting point is 00:04:30 are not ready. When I say y'all, the Indiana Pacers and Rick Carlisle and his staff for situational basketball. Y'all don't, you didn't have your team prepared for situational basketball. You have the ball up three points with about 21, 22 seconds left to go. You turn
Starting point is 00:04:47 the ball over. Give it back to Boston with 22 seconds left. Derek White makes a move to the basket. He misses. Jason Tatum gets the offensive rebound. He misses. You get the rebound. Pass it to Halliburton. Turner gets the rebound. Pass to Halliburton. It the rebound pass to Halliburton gets fouled it's 10 seconds left you're up 3 points with 10 seconds left in the game they wasn't in the bonus yet
Starting point is 00:05:13 so they do a sideline takeout instead of him calling timeout I know it's only 10 seconds left and you're at one timeout you should have called
Starting point is 00:05:20 timeout to advance the ball to half court and that way you could get a better inbound and play or hopefully get fouled and make your foul shots in the game over. Instead, what do they do? They don't have any sideline play to get the ball inbound. Halliburton can't get free. Siakam can't get free. They pass it to Siakam and ends up going off his fingertips.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So now not only do you lose the possession, you're giving them the ball right underneath their basket when you could have advanced the ball if you called timeout. So let's put this into perspective. You're up three points with 22 seconds left. Boston messes this up, misses. You get a rebound.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You're up three points with 10 seconds left, still in your backcourt. You don't call a timeout. And then Boston ends up turning it over again. I mean, pardon me, Indiana turns it over again. And Jalen Brown hit an amazing shot with about four or five seconds left in the game. They tie the game up. And now you have the ball. You finally do use your timeout. Advance the ball with the game tied. You're having trouble again inbounding the ball. I don't know why you guys have no play
Starting point is 00:06:26 whatsoever to inbound the ball to get a man free. Halliburton gets free. He's being smothered on defense. So not only did you turn the ball over twice and left in 20 seconds, you get the ball back with the game tied with five seconds left, and you can't even get a decent shot off. What was the timeout for with five seconds left if you could not draw up a you can't even get a decent shot off. What was the timeout for with five seconds left if you could not draw up a play to at least get a decent shot? I would be losing my motherfucking mind if I'm an Indiana Pacers fan.
Starting point is 00:06:54 They gave that game away. They had that game sealed. And if they come back later on down the series, you know, I didn't pick them to win the series. I did pick Indiana to win last night, though. But this is a game that's going to haunt them later on in the series. Not only that, you got 22 turnovers
Starting point is 00:07:12 that lead to 32 points. I'm talking about Indiana turnovers leading to Boston Celtics points. That's not going to get it done. It's not. So this is solely on the coaching of Rick Carlisle and his staff for not putting the team in the right position pause
Starting point is 00:07:28 to win that game yesterday. Great analysis. You don't think it was up to bat, man? That put them in overtime? I mean, shout out to him for tying the game, but I mean, they did make little mistakes towards the end that cost them. Cause even first, the first couple of minutes, they were up by 12 points and Indiana had zero. So it was a loss on Indiana and their coach. Cause they definitely had it in their hands.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So to see the outcome, the way that it happened, it's just like, dang, but like Cam said, it'll haunt them later. We'll see what happens for the next. But I got to ask y'all, right? So right now there's a quote going viral from Jalen Brown in the postgame. Lisa Salters asked him what the difference was in overtime. Jalen Brown responded, JT finally woke up. So after hearing that, would you consider him, you know, holding Jason Tatum accountable or does that not sound like something that you should hear from your teammate? I actually like that comment.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's really good when you hold players accountable because behind the scenes, people like to be the guy. But when it's required to be the guy, then he wants to use excuses. So I really appreciate him being vocal about that. I think it's important that he does so. Yeah, I think the quote was good. I don't think that he meant any harm. It's just, man, I don't think he meant all season. I don't think that he meant
Starting point is 00:09:06 throughout the playoffs. I think he meant last night in that particular game. Because like I said previously, nobody was even in Boston's rearview mirror the last 25, 26 games of the regular season.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So I don't think this was an overall shot at Jason Tatum about throughout the season. I just think he meant that one particular game. And no, I don't have a problem an overall shot at Jason Tatum about throughout the season. I just think he meant that one particular game. And no, I don't have a problem with that quote at all. They hold Jason Tatum to a high standard on that team. And just like the coaches and GMs do,
Starting point is 00:09:35 the players probably do as well. So I'm not mad at the quote at all. Then just to put it out there to see you guys as guests, do you guys have a prediction of who you guys think will win game two? Because you guys were both right for game one. What are we thinking for game two? I was actually wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I picked Indiana to win. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, first game. I said Boston's going to win the series, but I thought Indiana had momentum coming off the Knick game. Boston hadn't played in probably seven, eight days. I'm not saying that they're rusty or anything, but that counts when you're not playing official games.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Practice and scrimmages is one thing. Another, NBA game, playoff game is totally something different. So I was absolutely wrong thinking Indiana was going to win. I think Boston will win game two, and then we'll see what happens when we go back to Indiana. But they're carrying that momentum from this game into the next game. And Indiana, they'll play good because they know they had this game in their hands,
Starting point is 00:10:34 and it was just mental mistakes that let them slip up. But point being is when you got a championship coach and Rick Carlisle, not only a championship coach, you can use a player as an extension, pause off a championship coach with Siakam because he's a championship player. Y'all got to gather the troops up because y'all been in these situations before
Starting point is 00:10:55 and make sure that the younger players don't make the mistakes that they did. Yeah, I think when they play the next game, exactly what Killer said, they play very well. I think Halliburton will actually have more. Now that I've seen this game, he's going to definitely try to take it to another level. And I expect the same kind of game. I think it is going to come down to the very end, and it will be a very close game, but I'm expecting
Starting point is 00:11:25 Boston to get the next game. And then the NBA All-Defensive team was announced, which included Bam, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Herb Jones, and Wemby. That makes Wemby the first rookie to be selected. What do you guys think of the awards that Wemby
Starting point is 00:11:43 is starting to rack up why did you have to put bam first like that's how i read it off it's just it's just there at first that's just how i read it off when i wrote the question that's how i read it off were you reading in alphabetical order or something nah because 82nd but you second, but... AD is in the all-defensive team? That's crazy. But I guess this has nothing to do with playoffs like Cam been saying.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But I definitely wouldn't have had AD in the all-defensive team. I think Rudy Gobert definitely deserved to be the player of the year when it comes to defense. Wimby definitely, Bam.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Herb Jones. What team Herb Jones play for? Pelicans. I'm just making sure. Okay. And I guess you could put Anthony Davis there, but when it comes down to all defensive, he can't have people getting career games on him.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And that's really all I wanted to say. When I thought about it, I definitely thought Jalen Suggs should have been first team. Because all this year we've been raving about his defense and what it meant to Orlando. How Orlando came into being not a premier team but a team that had a major
Starting point is 00:13:14 turnaround. And his defense was the focal point of it. So I definitely thought he should have been in that first team. It's interesting to see two players from Boston on there, especially two guards. I think that's really good.
Starting point is 00:13:30 What do you think, Killer? The first team is Sue Rudy, Gobert, Wimby. Yeah, Bam,
Starting point is 00:13:37 AD, Herb Jones. Herb Jones, what position is he for us? Forward. Forward. Yeah, bowl, bowl, I get it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I get it. Yeah, for real. As far as one be making it, look, they're trying to project him to be the next great hope or whatever you want to use marketing terms. I'm not mad that he made it, but some of these awards, wins got to count, bro. You know, and I love the Spurs, Greg Popovich.
Starting point is 00:14:08 That's my team. But let's be serious. Wins got to count for something. He ain't playing that much defense to where he's stopping to win. I done seen Ant-Man do two game winning block shots this season. But I want, the reason I asked what position he's in, Paul, is because, like May said, Suggs, Ant-Man, I'm not going to say all defensive team
Starting point is 00:14:34 because I didn't study a lot of players' defense going into seeing who, besides team, I was looking at more team defense, who was first, second, third, fourth, fifth, as opposed to which players were dominating on the defensive end, but what I will say is that it's all forwards and centers on first team, and that means that they're not giving it to the point guards or the shooting guards or the small forwards, and they're probably doing a tremendous job as well. Now, you
Starting point is 00:15:00 have to have shot blockers or inside protection but you got to think about it and I'm not saying, I don't have an exact name, but when you got to chase Kyrie Irving around all game, when you got to chase Steph Curry around all game, when you got to deal with Devin Booker
Starting point is 00:15:20 coming off picks, etc. Those aren't easy assignments. Playing guards that won't stop moving. 24 hours, you know, 48 minutes in the game. They continuously move, similar to when, and I don't think anybody did it as good as him outside of Steph Curry and maybe, of course, Reggie Miller, but Rip Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Constantly moving when he played for the Pistons. It's just annoying. It wears you down, and you have to be up for the challenge for the whole game because they don't stop. And I think that they need to give some more point guards and wing players credit defensively. I know Mace brought up somebody,
Starting point is 00:16:00 a couple people on the Celtics. I didn't see the second team or third team, but I'm going first team that everybody centers and forwards. And it seems like they're not giving any credit to any wingmen or point guards. Yeah, and they gave it to all people who didn't win. That's the, other than Rudy Goldbeer out of the Western Conference.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Wembe didn't win. Bam did not win. Herb Jones, Anthony Davis, these are all teams that weren't that successful. So I don't understand how their defense was so pertinent. And especially, like you said, they went past Suggs. Suggs should have definitely been on there. Then they had Derek White. Derek White is another player that plays for Boston, as well as Drew Holiday.
Starting point is 00:16:52 These are guys who should have been, I wouldn't say first team, but they put the guards, it seemed like, on second team to make sure that they had them because they knew that would be a complaint. And then speaking of Rudy Gobert, I feel like this is an interesting stat so I wanted to get you guys' opinion on it. So apparently among the 15 highest paid players in the NBA, Rudy Gobert
Starting point is 00:17:13 is the only one still in competition with number one being Steph Curry, number 15 being Anthony Davis. What do you guys think of hearing that stat? Say that again? So among the 15 highest paid players in the NBA, Rudy Gobert is the only one still in competition.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I mean, I don't really know what to say about that. I think if you add Ant-Man to any of those players, they'd be in the playoffs right now as well. Can you imagine Ant-Man to any of those players, they'd be in the playoffs right now as well. Can you imagine Ant-Man was on Golden State? They probably wouldn't lose a game. But I don't know where he was really going with that. What I'll say is that these owners and GMs ain't going to pay y'all niggas. They paying you all this bread,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and y'all can't even get us to a conference finals or a semi-conference finals. And y'all getting all this bread. For Rudy Gobert to be in the top 15 players and he's the only player still playing and these niggas
Starting point is 00:18:15 is getting all this bread. I would have a real problem with that if I'm on my own. Because that means the people are not getting paid as much as y'all are more hungry. That's how they're going to take it. I'm not saying that's necessarily true or not, but they'd be like, the broke niggas is hungry.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They trying to get their max deal. So at the end of the exact list of who it is. But whoever's not playing, if you're not a mega superstar, this may haunt you when it's time to renegotiate. LeBron James is always going to get the maximum dollar. Steph Curry is always going to get the maximum dollar. Kevin Durant, so proven different, he's going to get the maximum dollar. Steph Curry is always going to get the maximum dollar. Kevin Durant, so proven different, he's going to get the maximum dollar. And these guys are elite from the other 12 or 11 players that's trying to go back and get their bread.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So when it's time for you guys to go renegotiate, it's going to come back to haunt you like the Pacers. Y'all niggas going to be like, yo, my nigga, you think I can... I'm Supermax, right? Nah, man. You ain't get us to the conference final. You're not Supermax. You got to be here to win four games.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, you bugging, my nigga. Nah. You ain't even max right now. We ain't going to throw something to you like... Listen, ladies and gentlemen, you know ain't going to throw something to you. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, who's going to come back to be haunted this year behind the same shit? Klay Thompson. I don't know where he's going,
Starting point is 00:19:52 if he's going to stay with Golden State to another team, but whatever team he goes to, his play this season is going to cost him whatever contract he has coming up. He's probably going to miss out on $10, $15 million if he goes to another team outside of Golden State. And if you go to Golden State, you're probably going to miss out on $20 to $25 million,
Starting point is 00:20:11 maybe $30 million over the course of whatever the contract is because of your play. When you're coming up for contract years, this isn't the year to be fucking up. And I don't know the other 15 players that we're talking about, 14, but this will cost you, outside of LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, it will cost you when it's time to do your new contract. What you think he was doing off the court that made him play so bad?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Who's that? Klay Thompson. If this was really bad. I don't know. We don't hear a lot about Klay. It isn't like he's caught up in scandals. It isn't like you see him at the club. It isn't like you hear,
Starting point is 00:20:49 yo, that nigga was wild and he got into a fight. I really believe at one point, when you're that good of a shooter, Mace, and I've never been that good of a shooter as Klay Thompson, probably top five ever in the NBA. Somebody will come out the woodwork and be like, hey, what about Dale Lullis, nigga?
Starting point is 00:21:08 You know, what about Chris Jackson? All right, cool. I'm just saying he's up there. My mood, yeah. He's up there with the top shooters ever. And even me as a player, sometimes I've been in slumps to where it becomes mental.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I can't make it. I'm going to miss this foul shot. Damn, I'm going to miss the 15. I ain't got no problem going to the basket. Pause. But it becomes mental. And I don't know if this was the situation for Klay Thompson, but when you don't see the ball go in the basket
Starting point is 00:21:41 and then you sit there and look at these numbers, it isn't like you can just play free to where then you don't have to pay attention to numbers. Yo, Clay, you shot 29% last night. Yo, Clay, you was 11 for 36. Yo, Clay, this is your season, your career season low on three-point percentage ever. Sometimes it becomes mental, and you're thinking about the ball not going in as opposed to the ball going in pause before you even release a shot.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Because we've seen sparks, but we'll see a spark from Klay this year, and then the very next game, he'll stink it up and won't have any points whatsoever. I'm very superstitious and I know it wouldn't work when Chris Paul got there.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Black cat in the room, man. You fucking Clay shot up. You blaming Chris Paul for a Clay shoot. Yes. Clay is the jinx. Clay shot bad, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Draymond Green got suspended for all-time record of suspensions this year. And they don't make the playoffs. Wiggins don't come. Yeah, Wiggins just don't show up when he don't. And sometimes niggas just got to sage a nigga pause. Go around a nigga with the sage. Sage a nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like, that nigga right there, it's not going to work with him in the lineup. you know what I'm saying like that nigga right there it's not gonna work with him in the lineup and not only that I really believe Chris Paul should try and get out of there
Starting point is 00:23:12 because as much fun as we play around with Chris Paul and sometimes we're not playing we're serious it's just the way
Starting point is 00:23:18 me and Mace talk I really don't want to see him end his career the way last season went for him I would prefer for him and I don't know if it will work out contractually, you know, salary cap-wise, so on and so forth. But I would love to see him.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, I would love to see him in San Antonio. Wimby would listen to him. Popovich got an extension of a point guard coach on the floor, and you could teach him at the same time. We know Chris Paul's a great passer. We see what he did when he got to the Clippers and he turned it into Lob City, so on and so forth. But I really wouldn't want to see him go out the way I see him go out last season.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And even though San Antonio may not be a contender next year, Chris Paul at least will look decent. You know, I know he wants to ring and everything else because he had a stellar career, but sometimes it's just not in the blueprint for everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And then for reference for the people watching, because I'm sure people want to know who's on the list of the 15 highest players. So one, Steph Curry, then Kevin Durant, Jokic, LeBron James,
Starting point is 00:24:23 Embiid, Bradley Beal, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Giannis, Damian Lillard, Jimmy Butler, Clay Thompson, Rudy Gobert, Fred VanVleet, and then Anthony Davis. Just when I read off that list, does anybody surprise you or you think the list is solid? Those are the people I thought would make the money. It's just amazing. Like Killer said, none of them are still playing. Yeah, only, I named the people
Starting point is 00:24:49 that were safe with Kevin Durant and LeBron James and Steph Curry. And the other two people that are safe is the Joker and Giannis. All y'all,
Starting point is 00:25:02 the rest of y'all, y'all are not safe, man. What about Joel Embiid? Oh, I mean, yes. Joel Embiid as well. Absolutely. 100%. Joel Embiid.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Those are the three players. Absolutely. This year is going to matter to, this year is definitely going to matter the same way for Klay. I think for Bradley Bill. He cannot afford to come back and not perform this year.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Well, the thing about it is this, that we have to pay attention to and monitoring from the list is people's age and how many years they have left
Starting point is 00:25:34 on their contract. So I don't know the exact age of Bradley Bill or how many years left he has on his contract, but let's say, for instance, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Because he had a big-ass deal. Let's say, for instance, he's 33. I'm not sure exactly how old he is, and he had four years left. But let's say for instance, right? Because he had a big ass deal for it. Let's say for instance, he's 33. I'm not sure exactly how old he is. And he had four years left. And they're like, I'm good anyway, man. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:53 I catch me one of them one million dollar checks after this deal is done because I already got the super max from the Wizards. That deal got transferred over to Phoenix. So they're playing for a deal
Starting point is 00:26:04 that was worked out with the Wizards already. And I know he had got the Supermax when he was with the Wizards. So I don't know how old he is. And I'm pretty sure status put him up. Yeah, he's 30 and he has two seasons left. 30? Yeah. Oh, Bradley Bill only 30?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah. Oh, he got plenty of time. Yeah, it's going to fuck him up. Murder two years. Two years. He better get together next year. Yeah, yeah. He got two years to fuck him up, murder two years. Two years, he better get together next year. Yeah, he got two years to get it together, man.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Okay. And then, Kaitlyn Clark is to become the first athlete since Michael Jordan to release a signature basketball collection with Wilson. The drop will include limited edition basketballs and other items. How do you guys feel about
Starting point is 00:26:43 Kaitlyn's release and then the clips that have been, you know, circulating of her performance in the WNBA? Mace first. How do you feel? How do you feel with Caitlyn getting that signature shoe? I think it's great. I mean, I think it's well, yeah, I think it's well-deserved. Wilson is obviously one of the biggest basketball brands.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's well-deserved. She's done her footing. As far as her performance in the WNBA, I think she's still doing a phenomenal job. She's scoring well, but they are definitely beating her up on that court. She has gotten injured, but got back up. She's clearly frustrated in all her post-game interviews,
Starting point is 00:27:17 but I mean, they told her it wasn't going to be easy and they're not making it easy for her. I'm starting to pick up the hate. Like, for her. I'm starting to pick up the hate. Like, honestly, I'm definitely starting to pick up the hate. It's like there's a call that went around like, yo, when she come in, pick her pocket, do this, do that. It's like it's just weird, you know, because when she makes money, the league looks better. I mean, and when she does better, she's like the New York Knicks to the WNBA. When she plays well, the league does better. The league is definitely going to benefit from her doing well.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And when I'm looking at this, I love the way the newer generation. They just always highlight whatever the thing is that make them look phenomenal. Why they had to put in there that since Michael Jordan. Like what? What's the correlation between her and Michael Jordan's stat? Did you do that? No, that's the headlines
Starting point is 00:28:19 because she's the only player to do that, which is a big stat to have on your belt when you just entered the league. So she's the first person to get a multi deal with. She's the first athlete to sign a signature basketball collection with Wilson since Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:28:41 No player has done that. Okay. I heard you. I get it. What Bo Ball say. What did Bo Ball say? I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Since Michael Jordan is, wow, just signature basketball collection. What is a signature basketball collection? Like, balls with her, with her signature on it? Yeah. Man, there's other niggas that have basketballs, yo. I'm not buying that right now. Nobody else had a basketball.
Starting point is 00:29:27 The exact quote is she's the first athlete since Michael Jordan to release a signature basketball collection with Wilson. Oh, yeah. See, that's the wordplay right there. With Wilson. Because I'm thinking about it. There's a few people who had basketballs. But I don't know if I want to play into this.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'm not feeding into this today. I don't have time for this. You know, Kaylin Clark has been doing, bringing a lot of money to the league. This is just another thing that we can add to the list. Who knows? Before it was all over, she may have an ice cream or something. We don't know That's what it's looking like
Starting point is 00:30:06 They're trying to make her something Really, really special Yeah, congrats It's nothing new We'll hear something more about her Getting some more endorsements She's paving the way But I want to ask status That will it be a demand for investments, she's paving the way.
Starting point is 00:30:30 What I want to ask that is that will it be a demand for Shorty from the Aces next? Because it's high demand. Would that be next for a signature clothing deal? Wilson basketball. Is the demand out there for that? Let me, what do you think? Oh, it's not fair. Asia Wilson didn't get the Wilson.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Ain't her last name Wilson? Yeah, that would actually be fire. See? Yeah, why didn't they offer it to Asia Wilson? She's the one with the last name. I get it, and I hear y'all. I still just think advocating for her to have a shoe was needed. Well,
Starting point is 00:31:08 so I'm asking you, what about the basketball? Yeah, that's what's fine. I'm satisfied because it's up from here. I just hope that they get their a hundred thousand dollars from the city and then they can just keep going. I'm not going to advocate for basketball too. I'm asking you if there's going to be a demand.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Is it going to be a demand? That's it. Is it a demand? Are they going to protest this? They should just keep it consistent. And everything Caitlyn get, say that Asia should have it also. What is this lady doing? Can we please get a shot of this?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Oh, my goodness. Is this the same ladies from yesterday? No. She said she wants to talk. I'm scared. Oh, keep it going. Hey. Y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Keep it going. Y'all. Keep it going. Keep it going. Oh, keep it going. Hey. Y'all. Keep it going. Keep it going. Oh, keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Oh, oh, oh. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. Go around. Go around. Ring the bell. She said that? You're lying
Starting point is 00:32:05 I wish she would be she said CNN hit me up she said can you let her in y'all wanna let her in nah these bitches be with they boyfriends and shit that's not her boyfriend
Starting point is 00:32:15 yo who does he look like from TV niggas look that's somebody he like cause niggas start folding they arms like that niggas that's somebody he like cause niggas start folding they arms like that niggas be mad alright
Starting point is 00:32:29 yeah right once a nigga start folding they arms they be tight but as far as Caleb
Starting point is 00:32:35 back to Caleb it's gonna be more stuff that she gets she's the great white hope man yeah Taco Bell everything she's gonna get the more endorsements she get, and it's good for her because she turned down $15 million
Starting point is 00:32:53 or whatever. I know it was $5 million at first from the big three, but it ballooned up to some crazy shit since 15, whatever it was. And she said, no, I'm going to try to uplift women's basketball. As far as her play is concerned, it's a hit out on her. It's a hit. And that's just the way it is, man.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Diana Taurasi said this during the NCAA Women's Final Four. She said, reality is coming and it'll be here
Starting point is 00:33:24 real soon for Caitlin Clark. And that's exactly what it looks like. Especially when they played the Liberty the other day. Sabrina hit her with a ha! Made her look like she played biddies. Hit her with an easy ball fake too. She almost ran out of bounds. Hit the
Starting point is 00:33:39 three and then Michael Jordan shrugged on her after this. Because at the end of the day, as good as Caitlyn Clark shoots, a lot of people forget that Sabrina lost to Steph Curry in the NBA All-Star three-point contest. They had one-on-one by two points. So in her brain, she like, y'all think she can shoot like I can shoot?
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm two points behind Steph Curry. Like, let's not get shit fucked up. And they embarrassed that other day. The Liberty did. The pics they were setting on her. She melted like ice cream. One pic she came through, and she just hit a brick wall.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Against last night before last, against the Suns, the Connecticut Suns. They was killing her. And she had 17 points. So what happens is if you don't see these games and you go to the box score at the end of the game and you'll be like, oh, well, she did have 20. Oh, she did have 17.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Well, no, it's the roughest 17 of her life, B. She's working like dog shit for these 17. And not only that, her shooting percentage is terrible. Terrible. But if you want to promote her, like, well, she still ended up with 17 or she still ended up with 20. She actually had nine points a couple games ago. And they still haven't won a game.
Starting point is 00:35:02 They're 0-4. Now, I don't think that Kaitlyn Clark is necessarily the problem on the Indiana Fever. I believe watching these first four games, because I've seen three of them and half of the fourth one that I didn't see. So I watched three and a half games. And I really believe that Leah Boston, that's her first name, Boston, is overhyped. And I don't mean any disrespect to her because she's a number one pick. She went to South Carolina. Shout out to Dawn
Starting point is 00:35:29 Staley and the crew. But she's not looking like a WNBA player. She's just big. She's not athletic. She's not snatching rebounds away from anybody. And what you got to realize is, too, and I'm not saying it, like, also with Wimby, and I'm saying Wimby's a hundred times better than her. Not, you know, I know it's male and saying that, like, also with Wimby, and I'm saying Wimby's
Starting point is 00:35:45 a hundred times better than her, not, you know, I know it's male and female, but she's not the Wimby of our sport, what I'm saying is.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But when you have the number one. Who's not the Wimby? Aaliyah Boston. Oh. Because I was saying last year was her first year in the WNBA.
Starting point is 00:36:00 No, you're right. I thought you were saying Kaylin, because that's what I was going to say afterwards. No, what I was saying that Ali is not
Starting point is 00:36:07 because the reason I brought that up is because San Antonio is so bad that they potentially may have the first pick again this year.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Which I think they already did. They're not going to get the first pick if I'm not mistaken. I think they did the lottery already. It used to be the Hawks.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yes, the Hawks. Exactly. But the reason I'm bringing mistaken. I think they did the lottery already. But... It used to be the Hawks. Yes, the Hawks, exactly. But the reason I'm bringing that up is because the Fever got the number one pick last year, which was Aaliyah Boston. And you couldn't galvanize them to get anywhere but another number one pick this year with Kaitlyn Clark. So I don't know if her game is necessarily
Starting point is 00:36:44 translating to the WNBA. I think Kaitlyn Clark. So I don't know if her game is necessarily translating to the WNBA. I think Kaitlyn Clark will be all right. I think that she's going to go through some growing pains. I think it's a target on her back. I think that as much as players
Starting point is 00:36:55 are uplifting her and saying how much she's bringing to the league and coaches and we see chartered planes and money coming in and so on and so forth. And they're not bad mouth
Starting point is 00:37:09 or not necessarily in public, but outside of what Diana Taurasi said, said, shit's going to get real. I really believe they say thank you. And when they go in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:37:18 they say, fuck wrong with that bitch. So she could fuck with me. I don't know. I don't know why they pumping her like that to be honest with you. I don't see with me I don't know I don't know why they pumping her like that To be honest with you I don't see it
Starting point is 00:37:27 I don't really see what they What the whole hype's about What you ask sis? 29-6 Call her half a homegirl Played against her the other night Yeah I see you caught her body too I don't even
Starting point is 00:37:41 I don't even know why they pumping this bitch like that But yo Let's take the ride for us Let's see what we can get out of it before it's over Because if she keeps it up and doesn't go good They're going to wait for the next white hope to come around So she got a couple of years to get this right But trust me, if you don't perform well
Starting point is 00:37:59 It'll start to sizzle down and go away Because one thing for sure, two things for certain That NCAA's women's division has picked up tremendously. So we'll be looking at next year what Juju's going to do, what Dawn Staley and the crew's going to do, if Iowa will bounce back, how North Carolina is looking. It's more to look forward to than the male NCAA
Starting point is 00:38:24 outside of Maurice with Connecticut, you know. But I can sit here and tell you more players is coming back next year in the NCAA as opposed to men coming back next year in the NCAA. So when the NCAA comes back again next year, we may fall in love with the next stuff. And we may say, we forget about caitlyn but this girl she all right so let's keep that in mind too they she got about a couple years to get it right because it will it will fizzle away it will go away magic johnson lived up to the hype larry burr lived up to the hype lebron james lived up to the hype uh michael jordan lived up tonight when you're
Starting point is 00:39:03 this type of player you don't live up to the hype it goes away lived up to the hype. When you're this type of player, you don't live up to the hype. It goes away. You can't be an average player. You could, but that isn't what they expected for you. Ant-Man's the number one player. It took him a couple years to say, okay, I'm figuring this out.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He's living up to the hype. And you can't be Sam Bowie. I ain't going to tell you Sam Bowie, but you can't, I ain't going to put it on Sam Bowie. I ain't going to tell you Sam Bowie. But you can't, I ain't going to put it on Sam Bowie. That's mad disrespectful. But, but what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:39:31 when as good as he was, he's nowhere near that. What I'm saying is this, you may have a player like Clyde Drexler, who's really pretty good until he plays against Michael Jordan. Then he looks average. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You get what I'm saying? And you don't want then he looks average. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? And you don't want to fall into that. Yeah, I was thinking about everything you were saying. And everything you're saying is quite correct. The league is going to have to do something to protect them. Because when you got this many players that are looking like they're not just playing a hard pause, but it looked like they sometimes trying to hurt us. So that you have to factor that into how she's playing because she's playing
Starting point is 00:40:13 against niggas who's hating on her. You know, you remember how they, they had to make rules for joy. And after a while, you can't hit them while he's in the air because that, it seemed like that's how they're playing Caitlyn. And it's too much money has been invested for them to not protect her.
Starting point is 00:40:29 They're going to have to make rules to protect her a little bit to see what she can do under those under those rules. I know people don't like it, but if y'all want the money in the WNBA, here go your opportunity. If you don't care about the money, then keep playing the game and let your ego get involved. But the girl did sacrifice a lot of money to play in the WNBA. I think that counts for something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:55 In the comments, let us know you guys' thoughts. We're going to go to break and when we return, we will discuss a speech by a Chiefs kicker that went viral. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing abouts toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe
Starting point is 00:41:34 She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about us Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So today the Mavs will play the Timberwolves. Underdog fantasy has Luca at seven first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? That's a good one. It's a tricky, tricky one. I'm going
Starting point is 00:42:11 higher. Pause. What's the points for who? Seven first quarter points made for Luka. Higher. Kyrie is at two and a half, three pointers made. Do you have him higher or lower? Cam? Higher. Higher. And Anthony Edwards is at 39 and a half points. half three pointers made higher or lower cam higher higher and Anthony
Starting point is 00:42:28 Edwards is at 39 and a half points rebounds and assists do you have them higher or lower mace lower higher download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so right now Chiefs kicker Harrison Bucker is facing a lot
Starting point is 00:42:43 of controversy for his commencement ceremony speech He addressed a lot of things but I will give a lump sum of just some of the things that he did say So at one point he addressed the women graduates directly in an attempt to counter And what he said was the most diabolical lies they have been told He said women should be happy to be a homemaker and he used his wife as an example and said that his wife's life started when she began living as a wife and a mother.
Starting point is 00:43:12 He also at one point... A wife started? Yes. He verbatim said that his wife's life started when she had her vacation as a wife and a mother. And then at one point he referred to Pride Month. Hold on, that don't sound like something you would say though.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Nah. I'm just making sure. His statement was missing a few words. All right, all right. I knew where his brain was trying to go, but that's what happens. I knew you knew something. Yeah, that's what happens
Starting point is 00:43:48 when your words are faster than your brain. All right. Okay. As I continue, he referred to Pride Month as one of the seven deadly sins, and he said a lot of other things
Starting point is 00:44:00 to the graduating class. Now, on the other end, because we got to talk about both sides, since the speech, his jersey sales have actually skyrocketed and he's getting more jersey sales more than Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. There's a lot of back and forth,
Starting point is 00:44:18 two completely different ends. But what do you guys think of the situation? And then in return, his jersey sales skyrocketing. His jersey sales skyrocketing? Yes. Wow, that's interesting. That means people are checking for his comments.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Even if they, I mean, because normally when a person doesn't like what you're saying, they start burning your jerseys and your jerseys go down. You know, we put out some T-shirts just last week and they said the expert is selling like crazy. So I kind of wanted to know, what does this mean? Maybe we have more reason to give us more information, but I don't know what to say about this. Why is his jersey
Starting point is 00:45:12 going up if people are mad with what he says? So there's two sides to every story. I don't know. I'm asking a question. And there are some people, I think Cam has a point. What's going on is this. It's basically it's not even brain surgery. Like,
Starting point is 00:45:28 people like what he said and some people don't. I'm not saying I agree with what he said. It's some people that, what's next election? How much votes does Trump get? It's going to go crazy
Starting point is 00:45:38 because nigga's standing on what he feel. And I don't know, I don't know his religion or what he believes in or anything like that but this is and no disrespect may say anything to you like that but this is christian energy we ain't messing with no gays not talking about you i'm just saying like the overall christian is he christian though catholic he's cath's Catholic. Okay. And I'm not the biggest expert when it comes to religion, but I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:46:08 for the people that I do know, I'm not talking about Mace because me and Mace don't really get into that. Me and him have a different friendship. I respect everything he believes in and where he got going on. So I'm on my business when it comes to that. So that's why I wanted to say no disrespect to him. But you got to think about it. I remember
Starting point is 00:46:23 Chick-fil-A saying they're big Christians or Catholics or one of the other Christians. They don't support abortion, so on and so forth. And I remember that they had a rally in Jersey saying they were totally against abortions. And they opened up Chick-fil-A on a Sunday,
Starting point is 00:46:40 which everybody knows Chick-fil-A doesn't open on Sunday. And the line was on the highway. I'm talking about over four people was on the highway. You couldn't even get in the mall to get a Chick-fil-A because you got to think, it's a lot of people that believe this world is soft. We can't say what we want to say.
Starting point is 00:46:58 We can't believe in what we want to believe in. The cancel culture is out there. We might get canceled. And like I said, for those who just snatched my clips and try and reverse my words, I'm not saying I agree with anything he said. I'm just telling you that it's people out there that support things that he said. So that's why they like, let's go support him because, damn, we can't even say that we don't want the gay pride parade or we can't even say that we don't want abortions or so on and so forth. And I don't know if this is religion related.
Starting point is 00:47:31 This could be totally how he feels. But I want to put the disclaimer out there. I'm not in support of anything he said. But it's people out there who get frustrated because they feel like they can't give their real opinion. And to me, my personal opinion on this situation is those are the people that support him
Starting point is 00:47:48 feeling like they don't have a voice anymore. And he's the voice for the voiceless for that particular situation he's talking about. I get what you're saying. So he's the conservative voice. Yeah, a lot of conservative has lost their voice. And those are those views that just see things the way they see it and i think this is a really a really um powerful topic because it seemed like
Starting point is 00:48:14 as as more people begin to voice um more of a liberal view it feels like the liberals have the the ability to say what they feel and is more accepted but then when somebody i think everybody should have the right to say how they feel no matter what they feel because that's the only way you get to know who people really are nobody should have to hide what they really view and what they really think. Because one thing that may be crazy to one person is totally acceptable to another person. As long as it doesn't kill a person or harm them in a physical sense, they should be able to say what they feel. Look, somebody just told me the other day, great point, by the way, on great take. A girl just told me the other day, look, women are never going to get equal pay like men
Starting point is 00:49:04 get equal pay. This is just a female. We're having a conversation. She's like, Kim, just let me stay home and be the housewife and pay me like that because I keep going to work. I'll probably get more just sucking your dick all day and cleaning up. And that's just two weeks ago. We're never gonna get equal pay out here
Starting point is 00:49:26 man for men I might as well just stay home suck dick and clean up and get more money than me going to work for eight hours
Starting point is 00:49:31 I'm like cause you know if you do a good job definitely look out you know it may not be a lot to me but it may be plenty to her you know so when she said that I started laughing and she like nah dead ass I said well You know, it may not be a lot to me, but it may be plenty to her. You know?
Starting point is 00:49:45 So when she said that, I started laughing. And she's like, nah, dead ass. I said, well, there's women out there making money like men. She said, yeah, but the overall scope of things are not nowhere close. Yeah, you got women out there making millions of dollars and a few billionaires. But when you're comparing it to the men, we're not even on the same spectrum. And I'm like, yeah, that shit is fucked up. That shit is whack.
Starting point is 00:50:08 So she's like, yeah, suck dick, stay home, clean up, rub your feet. I'd rather do that than go work for eight hours and make the same amount of money or more. And I'm like, what that made me realize is I may be
Starting point is 00:50:23 overpaying for my needs. Yeah, because you know I may be overpaying because I be hearing about the $40 shit, but I thought it was inflation. I like that. That $40 was like five, six years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I'm thinking inflation, man. I'm just saying, man. I'm just giving you a female's point of view. I'm going to have to say what the chief said about him. And murder. She was white.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's different. Yeah, I'm not even telling you what the black woman said. She was like, yo, man, fuck all this. We ain't never getting equal pay. I thought she sounded like a runaway slave. Feel me? Bring us back to the topic, Stacks. I just wanted to know you guys' opinions on the situation,
Starting point is 00:51:28 but if that's case closed, then... No, I think I really believe this guy, you know, he should be able to voice his opinion. I think where the world is going, it's important that all views be heard, and then people go from there. I will just add, I think everybody should be able to voice their opinions, but that does not mean that everybody's going to agree with you. I just want to make it clear too, because
Starting point is 00:52:01 obviously my like brand is making sure that I'm like uplifting people, that whole type of thing. And that's what I strongly believe. And that's my core. I just think that there's a time and a place. He said it around people that, you know, have his viewpoints and that's completely fine. But at the same time, at a graduating ceremony to address women directly and say that basically you have no. And he that's why he gave his wife as an example that women should want their purpose into being a homemaker solely is actually insane. But if that's what you believe, that's what he said. I don't agree.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I think everybody should find their purpose and do as they believe. And I hope people continue to do that. What if that's her purpose, though? No. That's not. There you go, killer. Killer took the words off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah, let's go. What if that's her purpose? I don't think that that's, to me, like if we're going to use certain terms, it's real misogynistic to say that a woman's purpose is to go and be a homemaker and solely raise children and be a wife. A girl just told me this, though.
Starting point is 00:53:14 No, if that's what she, it's different when the girl says that that's what I want to do. But you representing your wife and saying that that's when her life began is crazy. That's when her life began is kind of crazy. If I myself say that that's what I want to do and that's my goals and aspirations,
Starting point is 00:53:34 that's very different from you telling me like, Stat, when you leave this room, the only thing you are meant to do, your life began once you had a child like that's but it's context to to i'm not defending him but there's because i don't i didn't hear it but when he's saying life he's talking about what it sounds like i can't even say this is what he's saying yeah but in it in what he may be trying to say is that the the um how can i explain this a woman's a woman's um purpose is is part of what he's saying like her her yeah she can go out and make a lot of money but when it comes down to what her purpose is
Starting point is 00:54:23 what was she made for not what I think she should be not what you think she should be what is the actual purpose of a woman and to know that you got to know what is a woman so then you can stop having all these arguments about what she should be because anything used outside of his purpose is going to be abuse, even if it's the person abusing themselves. And I hear you, but I, based off of what I heard, I'm not even going to try to interpret what I think he said,
Starting point is 00:54:54 because he could certainly be saying something completely different. And I don't know. But you know what was so, so, so interesting about it? The people that heard it understood it. The people that, that are arguing it are probably the people that didn't understand what he was saying. Maybe you're one of those people.
Starting point is 00:55:16 We can agree to disagree. No, I don't agree. I don't agree. I'm just saying the people that heard it at Benedict College. I know exactly where he meant, man, to be totally honest with you. And I get both of you guys' point of views. But P, you know what he did. You know exactly what he did and what he meant.
Starting point is 00:55:33 He went, Nino Brown, he said, I took you from a life of boredom. He said, okay, you gave me a couple books to read and educate me, but I took you from a life of boredom. What was you doing before you met me? That's what he really wanted to say. He really wanted to say, and I'm not agreeing with what he said before niggas do that again. He's trying to say.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And I'm not defending him either. His mind, I'm just paraphrasing for me. She was washing windows in Walgreens. He said her life started. Yeah. When your moms was housing shit out of Bloomingdale's, I took you from a life of boredom
Starting point is 00:56:14 and brought you over here. Now, I'm not saying that's exactly... We're not agreeing with him or defending what he's saying. We're just trying to add context to what he was trying to say. Your life began to be lit when you got with me. Yo, I remember, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And I watched a lot of reruns of, but this was way before I met Coach Prime. That's my big bro. I love Coach Prime. And he had a reality show on Oprah's channel one time. And he's moved now, of course, but he had a big house in Dallas when I used to watch his show.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And his then wife or baby mother, whoever it was at the time, he has a two-story, I don't know if you've ever seen this house, he has a two-story closet with the cleaning shit. When you push the button, it should come around.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And his wife asked for some more closet space. And he said, nah, he came in here with a hockey bag when I met you. He said, I need all this space. And I'm not saying he was right at the time.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And no disrespect, Coach Rom, this was probably 2007, 2008 when that show was on. But sometimes, fellas, and I'm not agreeing with it because I got to keep saying that because people are taking my clips and twisting them into
Starting point is 00:57:39 what they want to turn them into. But at the end of the day, some men think like that. And some men are wrong and some men are right because sometimes women, and even if the shoes don't have a foot,
Starting point is 00:57:53 you can use it reverse if the shoes the other way around. The women, the women is the bread in the house, so to speak. And then they get home
Starting point is 00:58:03 playing PlayStation all day. You come in like, nigga, headphones, call of duty. Yo, yo, yo, where you at? Where you at? She's like, is you going to clean up? Like, are you going to wash the dishes? Are you going to help out?
Starting point is 00:58:19 You was living with your mother before you got here. Now you over here wilding out. You Mr. Mom-ass nigga, you a homemaker. Your life ain't start till you came over here fucking with me.
Starting point is 00:58:31 So I don't think that... And they wouldn't see nothing wrong with that. That's the point. I don't think that he's right. I think that it's more about who's the breadwinner in the house. And, right, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:58:44 And talking how they want to talk because they're the breadwinner in the house. And right, you feel me? And talking how they want to talk because they're the breadwinner. And knowing that their spouse or significant other's situation is. And I don't think it's male or female. I just think it's situational, me personally. Yeah. And even adding to what Killer said,
Starting point is 00:58:59 I think this world just, this generation struggles with manly men. You know, they're so used to like really controlling a man and kind of pushing them in a direction that when they're actually talking to a solid guy, they don't really know how, they're not prepared to deal with them. they're not prepared to deal with them. Because even when they talk about certain people that have crazy views, what they all have in common is that they're unapologetic men. Like, killer is unapologetic. I'm unapologetic.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You're unapologetic. And our views could be different, but we're all unapologetic. And, you know, a masculine woman is going to struggle with that kind of guy I still like have different but I get where you guys are both coming from nah you got the whole thing about it
Starting point is 00:59:58 is you can agree to disagree like you don't have to be what we say like you could have not you I'm just saying people in general.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I know. No, that's what I'm saying. They're not allowing that portion to sit at the table. It's almost like because they have a view, they want to push his view out. No, his view should sit at the same table that every other culture, people, and every other liberal view should be able to sit at the table, conservative and liberal, and let people choose what they want to do. Don't knock people's view off the table because they don't agree with yours
Starting point is 01:00:34 because people don't agree with my views, but I don't tell them to knock it off the table. We should all, when something is really the truth, everything could be on the table, and the truth is going to outweigh the fact. I just don't understand why people are mad at people's opinion. Like, that's what an opinion is. My opinion don't have to be your opinion. It's called an opinion. Yeah. And that don't mean we got to be beefing to have a problem because we don't think the same thing. I'm not talking about nobody. I'm just saying in general, in the world, half the time, I really feel when it comes to social media
Starting point is 01:01:06 and stuff like that, I really believe that 50 to 60% of the people who comment really don't have an opinion. I really believe they see what they're reading and be like, oh, this the wave? Let me,
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm going to go with this. Because the majority of people are saying this. I really believe 40%, are really the ones who's opinionated. 40, 30%, and the other 60, 70% are just following, like, let me paddle on and act like I'm down with this movement. I really don't even believe people have real opinions these days. You have a few, but at the end of the day, they're just following what's going on.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah, they're like, this group is strong. I'm going with this group. But if that group is not strong, they say, man, I don't agree with none of that. And even just to add on to that, that's why social media is just so crazy the way that it works, because even just like, even if that's not what you agree with, if that's the
Starting point is 01:01:58 majority of your feed and that's what you're consuming and that's what you're seeing, you're obviously more likely to, you know, sway or believe that certain thing. But I definitely agree. Like, I'm cool with disagreeing. I don't understand why people feel like if it is a disagreement, then it's like, I can't, like, there's,
Starting point is 01:02:14 I have friends and I'm sure we all have friends that we completely disagree with and do not believe anything. Like a lot of the things that they're saying, but like- It's a nigga who come on the show, I don't agree with nothing he says. I don't agree with nothing that nigga says.
Starting point is 01:02:28 We argue every day. Still my man. I don't agree with nothing that nigga says, bro. At all. Yeah. Take a guess who that is. All right. So last topic before we close.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So Marvin Harrison Jr. is being sued by fanatics for breaching his contract. The lawsuit filed in New York Supreme Court on Saturday claims Harrison did not fulfill his obligations and has estimated the damages in millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I want to also note that Harrison does not have an agent and he is being represented by his father, Hall of Fame receiver Marvin Harrison, and he has yet to sign the NFL Players Association's group licensing agreement, which would allow him to participate in things like NIL. So knowing that
Starting point is 01:03:12 he doesn't have an agent, his father is representing him and that he is now being sued by fanatics. What do you guys think of that situation and what do you guys think he should do moving forward? Well, the first thing you got to do is switch from his dad to his mother. You know, a mother knows best. You know, it's going to be hard to argue against a mom about her baby. You know, the mom is definitely a better better look, especially when you're in drama. A woman's words go over a little bit better, probably. When I'm looking at this lawsuit, I mean, it's too early for him to be sued. He just got in the league. This is a horrible way to start an NFL career, but it is an awakening to him and his dad because when it comes down to it you don't want to get into these kind of
Starting point is 01:04:06 these kind of lawsuits especially when it's dealing with the nfl because what was the guy named a running back from um that that i think he had master p representing him and um went to the saints right and it just started with that controversy and his career just never panned out to be the right way. I mean, even though he had Master P and I thought that should have been a phenomenal thing.
Starting point is 01:04:37 No slight that Master P, love Master P, pause. But when these type of things happen, they kind of put a damper on who this player is supposed to be. And once people see you as troublesome, they start dealing with you like you're a problem instead of the talent that you really are. So I hope this goes away and get your mom involved.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Get your mom involved ASAP. Listen to what was his, Lamar Jackson and his moms. Get some advice. Same way you said need an agent. Lamar Jackson. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Mm-hmm. Um. Things change. Two things could be right. Two things could be right. Two things could be right. Yeah. And I feel we're allowing people to have their opinions.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I don't really know too much about the lawsuit besides what Stat asked. I didn't do no homework on it because I was like, whatever, it'll probably fix itself in the long run. But just from hearing what you guys are talking about and what Stat read, there's two things that come to mind. First thing is, just because your father is a Hall of Fame wide receiver, that doesn't mean he necessarily knows
Starting point is 01:05:50 business. I'm not saying he doesn't know business. He may, for me, he may not. Fanatics is not just a fly-by-night company. They're a really decent company, so I don't know what his obligation was with Fanatics, but they should have been met
Starting point is 01:06:07 and somebody should have told them that. Not only is your father a Hall of Fame wide receiver, former football player, I don't know relationships he kept or didn't keep
Starting point is 01:06:20 but he's very, very much respected in the NFL because of the play, because of the way he carried himself, very blue collar, showed up to work, very much respected in the NFL because of the play, because of the way he carried himself, very blue collar, showed up to work, didn't talk a lot. And he was Peyton Manning's number one target for years. One person that seems to have their business in order is the Manning family. Whether it's Peyton Manning, whether it's Eli Manning, whether it's their little nephew, that's the number one NIL money getter,
Starting point is 01:06:45 and he didn't even start last year for the team that he went to, and he's number one NIL. Reach out to them if you still have that relationship, because shit, Peyton Manning, a lot of them yards that he's accounted for, you caught them passes. So I don't think that, and like I said, I don't know, but you shouldn't be above calling out friends, reaching out, asking for help.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Maybe hire an agent if you need an agent. Because just because you was good at football, that doesn't mean you're good at business. And I'm not accusing you of not being good at business. You may have four or five Fortune 500 companies I have no idea about. But to let you sink in this position, pause behind the eight ball
Starting point is 01:07:27 before you play the NFL game, I don't think that's good. Yeah, he wants to renegotiate the Fanatics contract that he allegedly signed last year. Well, we'll see what happens. But that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And as always, it is what it is. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga super size. Super max. Outro Music

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