IT IS WHAT IT IS - PEOPLE ARE PLAYING WITH YOUR NAME, KLAY | EP.65

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. It will also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. Of course, I'm Treasure Wilson aka Sat Baby along with your hosts
Starting point is 00:00:49 Mace, Soon, and Cam. How we doing? What up, yo? We're shaking. Nothing much. I didn't get a fit memo because you real dressed up today. You know, a little photo shoot. Shout out to GQ cover. You know, niggas. You just a GQ ass nigga. You know, Snap, we gonna get you on the next GQ.. You know, niggas, we were just a GQ-ass nigga. You know, Snap,
Starting point is 00:01:05 we're going to get you on the next GQ. What we're going to do is make your show top five this time next year and we're going to get you on the cover of everything that's sexy and related
Starting point is 00:01:15 to female sports and outside of sports too because you know what I don't like? Pardon me. You know what I really don't like? Is when
Starting point is 00:01:27 y'all niggas try to act like stat ain't down with me or us. Yo, how niggas ain't gonna put stat in it? Yo, stat ain't involved.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yo, how niggas ain't... You think I asked them to put stat in it? If stat is not in it, I requested stat to be in it. Whether it's a list, a top 10 list it whether it's a list a top 10 list whether it's a cover magazine look we was doing the cover of roller stone magazine and some things happened that transpired that the cover didn't come out for you know reasons
Starting point is 00:01:56 that don't need to be explained i said you gotta put stat on the cover facts or not it was facts can't can't always be looking out for me because y'all be, because they do be in the comments like, dang, why y'all never put, like, I love y'all though and I appreciate it, but there is a conversation. Like, I'm not like out the loop.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yo, bro. Stat ain't never write no rhymes that I know of. She ain't do no beats. She ain't do no videos. Cover of Rolling Stone? The cover. I've been to Rolling Stone. Cover of Rolling Stone, the cover. I've been to Rolling Stone a hundred times to be on the cover out the gate.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I was fighting for that. And I got it done. Like I said, it was some shit after the photo shoot why we didn't do the cover. But Stat was about to be on the cover of Rolling Stone. Get the fuck out of my comments with all that. Yo, y'all niggas don't be doing this for Stat. Don't be doing that for Stat.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I just had a, you know, and I'm not bringing up shit, you know, the stir up shit that I'm over, but I was telling niggas outside of, me and, like the main niggas that be having people on they show.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And I'm not talking about nobody specific, because I'm not bringing up no old problems. I don't want no problems with nobody I don't want no problems with nobody who don't want no problems with me. But she makes more than everybody. And I'm going to make sure she keep getting more niggas up there doing shows for $3. Telling you, man,
Starting point is 00:03:14 that's a young, rich, black woman right now. I'm trying to make her wealthy. Say the fuck out my DMs and my, not really my DMs, my comments about best thing y'all niggas they do is just stat, stat, stat, stat. I named a stat. Like, yo, I named a stat.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yo, we are not against each other. It's not a competition at all. We working together. This is not a competition whatsoever, man. Just had to say that, man. No, and I'm actually happy you addressed that because I think a lot of people are confused about some things. But yes, like conversations are had.
Starting point is 00:03:47 We are working to be at the top together. It's not a competition. Like we are working together. And that's how it should be. Yeah, I don't know nobody on no other show that say, yo, you know the last time I seen this and I could be wrong
Starting point is 00:04:01 is Oprah put Dr. Phil on. Niggas ain't putting nobody on on they shows unless they on already like they collaborate like oh this person's starring in this show and this person's starring in that show and then they collaborate and then they end up being like a show together.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Niggas is not putting people on on they show like you know what? I think you deserve your own show. Nah they want to keep people under they wing the whole time people on their show. Like, you know what? I think you deserve your own show. Nah, they want to keep people under their wing the whole time to make their show better instead of empowering
Starting point is 00:04:30 not just other people on the show. But for me, a young black female who's smart, intelligent, pretty, and has a lot of wisdom to do not only in front of the camera,
Starting point is 00:04:41 but behind it. Get the fuck out of here, man. Well, one, I appreciate it. And yeah, make sure y'all check out the stat. You know, my episodes drop Friday at 3 p.m. So stay tuned. Got a lot of cool stuff coming up. But let's get into the questions.
Starting point is 00:04:55 The Spurs lost to the Rockets 93 to 82. The Spurs are on a six-team game losing streak. So I'm just going to ask, what is the problem with the Spurs? You know what? The Spurs is my team, yo. A lot of people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'm not just doing it saying that because, you know, I may just be like, this is my team and that's my team. A lot of people don't know. Of course,
Starting point is 00:05:18 it's Nick Fins. I don't know if you know this. When you live in New York, you're allowed to have two teams. The Knicks because, you know, you go through New York, you're allowed to have two teams. The Knicks because you know, you go through heartburn, heartache,
Starting point is 00:05:30 ulcers, all type of shit. If you just are a Knicks fan, it gets mentally draining. So for the last 20, well longer than that, probably 25 years, the Spurs have been my team. Kim, how'd the Spurs bring your team? The reason the Spurs are my team is because a point guard out in New York named Rod Strickland had went to the Spurs. Shout my team. Kim, how'd the Spurs bring you to the team? The reason the Spurs are my team is because a point guard out in New York
Starting point is 00:05:46 named Rod Strickland had went to the Spurs. Shout out to Rod, my nigga Rod. What's up, baby? And when he went there, I'm like, nah, I'm fucking with the Spurs.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's New York nigga there. And when he left there, I stayed with the Spurs. I was there before Tim Duncan got drafted. I was there when David Robinson got drafted. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:02 because they'd be like, all of a sudden, Kim, the Spurs. Nah, I'm Sean Elliott. I'm Lloyd Daniels. I'm from that Avery Johnson. I'm from that Spurs era. So,
Starting point is 00:06:11 back to the Spurs. We ain't shit. We ain't shit. You know what I get? And I don't know this for a fact because his numbers, Wimby numbers look amazing when you look at the numbers.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But he doesn't have the energy that everybody thought that he would have. Like, I'm here to take this league over. Man, this is my league. Y'all little niggas can't fuck with me. He got, look, I got my 20 points and my 10 rebounds, which is exceptional,
Starting point is 00:06:38 exceptional for a rookie. But for a nigga 7'4", 7'5", with a handle, three-point shot, dribbling, it's a little underachieved, and I hate to say underachieved, because like I said, if you go into analytics and the numbers, his numbers are great for a rookie,
Starting point is 00:06:57 but off the eye test, it's like, damn, man, he really needs to try and do some more. You know, I know New York, we got some of the toughest fans, and we real fucking arrogant and fucked up sometimes and disrespectful. But when he played at the Garden, the whole crowd was like, overrated, overrated. And I'm like, damn, they can't even get 20 and 10 out here without being overrated and they first fucking year that shit was crazy um for me though I won't you know like stat already
Starting point is 00:07:34 said they lost the last 16 games straight it's looking like they're going back to the lottery what they're 3 and 19 that is if I'm not 3-19. So at the end of the day, I really can't blame it. I mean, I really can't focus on the Spurs. What I would like to focus on is the Houston Rockets. I think that's a better story than just focusing on the Spurs losing like that. The Houston Rockets actually are doing tremendous. What this points out to me is this. Because somebody cheats in their relationship
Starting point is 00:08:16 don't mean they can't coach. You know, I mean, I know it was a big mess up there in Boston and so on and so forth, but that don't mean that they can't coach. Like, y'all got rid of him, I mean, I know it was a big mess up there in Boston and so on and so forth. But that don't mean that they can't coach. Like, they got rid of him not only because he had a field, but I know it was internal. I know niggas boning presidents' wives and a secretary came out,
Starting point is 00:08:37 and I know it was a hazardous environment. But his first year, he got them to the championship. Last year, they didn't even, they had a new coach, but they didn't even got them to the championship. Last year, they didn't even, you know, they had a new coach, but they didn't even really get to the championship. So I will say that I'm more impressed with the Houston Rockets. Right now, the Houston Rockets would be in the plan. They're actually, well, I'm looking here,
Starting point is 00:08:58 they're two games out of first place in their division. New Orleans is ahead of them, and Dallas is ahead of them. So I'm really impressed with Houston. I'll be keeping an eye on them. And right now, let's look at the people that they're ahead of in the West. The people that they're ahead of in the West is
Starting point is 00:09:14 we got Phoenix underneath Houston, which that was my pick to go to the Western Conference Finals. We got the Pelicans under Houston. The LA Clippers are under Houston. The Golden State Warriorsicans under Houston. The LA Clippers are under Houston. The Golden State Warriors are under Houston.
Starting point is 00:09:28 The Memphis Grizzlies, we know that they're John Morantless, but they're under Houston. These are the teams that are playoff teams last year that are all under Houston.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So I think the biggest story is not the Spurs losing 16 games. It's more about the Houston Rockets elevation and them getting down to business.
Starting point is 00:09:44 As Murda just walked in what's good baby what's the word yeah we was just talking about the Houston Rockets all I heard was cousin nigga nigga get someone on the side doesn't mean he can't coach cause that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:02 you know I don't think it was about the affair while they got rid of Udoka if I'm saying. You know, I don't think it was about the affair while they got rid of Yudoka, if I'm saying his name right. Yudoka. Yudoka.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I think it's about who he had the affair with. It was with people that was internally with the Boston Celtics franchise. It wasn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:19 it was a president's wife or somebody's secretary because after the wife came out, the secretary got mad like, oh, you fucking him too? So, I don't think it was about that, but... Oh, it was more than one person? Yeah, it started getting a little drippy pause. Oh, he was
Starting point is 00:10:34 going crazy. He was going crazy. Then the fact that the alarm was involved. All that goes to show is that don't mean I can't coach. You know, it's like this with me. It's a lot of different things that people get penalized for because they're good at one thing.
Starting point is 00:10:52 They don't mean they're good at another. Like, shout out nigga Beast Mode. Shout out to Marshawn Lynch. You know, he was in the studio the other day. Shout out to Marshawn. We wait for you to come back. And he could be one of the best talkers in the world, one of the greatest talkers. He could go
Starting point is 00:11:07 probably maybe teach a class at Harvard. But everybody may not be great talkers. I remember Yeah, that's true. Yeah, like Kenyon Martin had Tourette's. So when he was talking, he was snapping. And I'm like, this man is obligated to talk
Starting point is 00:11:24 to media before and after when I know that's part of the job in the NBA and part of the job being a professional. But I'm a great basketball player. That doesn't mean I'm the best talker in the world. And I know for certain people, it may set a precedent to be like, well, if he don't talk, I don't want to talk. And I know they need that to get the league the way it needs to be and promotion and growing the league but sometimes because you're good at one thing doesn't mean that you're great at another thing you may be a
Starting point is 00:11:52 great coach and a terrible husband does that mean I can't coach no more Michael Jordan great player win at everything but don't win in marriage not only marriage he don't win in marriage. Not only marriage, he don't win as a
Starting point is 00:12:07 owner. He's a dope player. Real great player. Great marketer, sneaker salesman, so on and so forth. Shout out to Endoka, not on the shit you did to Nia, but the job you're doing so far
Starting point is 00:12:23 in Houston. I'm just going to give my quick take on the Spurs unless you have anything to add asia, but the job you're doing so far in Houston. I'm just going to give my quick take on the Spurs unless you have anything to add as well. Spurs are trash right now. I said that before you came in. I'm like, man. I'm about to put them with Dallas.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Teams I don't talk about. Cowboys. Why is all of this coming out of Texas? Shout out to Texas. What's going on? Yeah, listen. What's going on? Well, these are the Cowboys every year are kind of winning.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know, last two years, Pop, he's been struggling because even when his team's got, when, you know, Tony Parker left and Duncan left, Kawhi ended up leaving way before that, Ginobili. He was still scrambling to that eighth seed some type of way now he's lottery
Starting point is 00:13:09 so um this is looking like two years in a row in the lottery so I don't know yeah I just want to say
Starting point is 00:13:17 that the Spurs do have a lot of potential I just see them as this work in progress team they are one of the youngest teams in the league and they're doing a lot of experimental work.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Like you have a big man like Victor Weminyama who's still trying to get his foot on the ground in the court. And then they even made one of their young players, Jeremy Sohan, the point guard. And he's not even a point guard. That's not even the position he usually plays. So I think Popovich is going to over time
Starting point is 00:13:40 be able to handle them. But right now, I think it's just a lot for them to be on the court against these other teams. I just don't think they have their footing yet. They need some good veterans. Yeah, they do. See, the thing about it,
Starting point is 00:13:51 the thing about it, yeah, good point. That's why I was saying the Chris Paul trade would have been great for them. Yeah. Some type of way. I don't know how it would have worked out,
Starting point is 00:13:58 but obviously it's not going well and going to state with what they got going on. Y'all got some time before the trade deadline to look into that. But it isn't like LA, how May said the other day,
Starting point is 00:14:09 how you're in LA, you have to perform. It's not LA, but at the same time, it's a small market. But the Spurs also have a standard. Like it's the Spurs, like, yo, this isn't the big market city, but as an organization,
Starting point is 00:14:28 Greg Popovich, one of the, probably the top five best coaches ever. You got, Hall of Famers all over the place. You got Tim Duncan
Starting point is 00:14:37 out there. You got David Robinson. You got Tony Parker. You got Ginobili. You got Kawhi Leonard. You know, even to a certain extent, Bruce Bowen, nigga,whi Leonard. You know, even to a certain extent, Bruce Bowen, nigga, Avery Johnson.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You know, it's a standard. And right now, Wembae has to realize that you're part of an organization that has a standard. Before you came in, what I was saying was, Mace, is that the numbers he's putting up
Starting point is 00:15:01 is tremendous as a rookie. And maybe we may be just a little too selfish saying we want more. But at the end of the day, the access is not there for me. The effort, you know, I think when you get to 20 and 10, you're like, well, what else do you really want from me? But when you looking at it, you know what I'm saying? Because as a rookie, that's great numbers. You can't even get mad at that.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Because actually you pointed that out one day and I'm like, damn as a rookie, that's great numbers. You can't even get mad at that because actually you pointed that out one day and I'm like, damn, that nigga is averaging 20 and something. I'm like, it don't seem like it. And another thing I was mentioning is like as New Yorkers, right before you came in, you know, we're one of the toughest markets to come play at. Or perform. Perform, play.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's rough out there. It's rough. I think the only other place worse than New York may be Philly. Philly's just rugged. But I was saying- New Orleans, New Orleans. Yeah, Philly will punch you in your face. It's not big in Philly.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Philly, you know, you ever heard when a nigga jumped in on Lou Williams' car and tried to rob him and Lou Williams talked him out of robbing him? Like, what you doing this for, man? I got it. And then they end up
Starting point is 00:16:10 giving him a job. You had a gun? Yeah, on some Frank Lopez shit or some King of New York, Frank White shit. But, I would say
Starting point is 00:16:19 how when Wimby played in New York, the whole guard was like, overrated. Oh, like, guard was like, overrated. Oh, like, it was like, because
Starting point is 00:16:28 then you look at scoreboard, he got 22, 20, whatever. I don't remember what he had, but it's not enough. You know, we respect the move.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And I think when you're talking about the Spurs, Spurs has never been about numbers though. Even if he made the numbers as a Spurs fan, you know, every time they had a good team, it was never about the numbers as a Spurs fan, you know, every time they had a good team,
Starting point is 00:16:52 it was never about the numbers. David Robinson, it always has been about collective and doing things as a community. So when you see Wimby getting these numbers for him to have all of these numbers and not win, I think it matters more that they're not winning than them getting. Because even if he wasn't getting these numbers and they were winning and continuing the Spurs culture, I think people would really rally behind that. But I think when you got so many Hall of Famers around that you can't run out of clock with all of those people there. Okay. Moving along, the Nuggets beat the Hawks 129-122. Jamal Murray was the game leader this time.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Do you think any team is better than the Nuggets right now? I think well, standards-wise, they're third or fourth in the East, if I'm not mistaken, standards-wise. But what I think with the Nuggets,
Starting point is 00:17:43 my personal opinion, Joker missed a couple games, which is uncharacteristic. Jamal Murray was injured for a couple games. Aaron Gordon missed a couple games. I really believe, my personal opinion, and I don't know this for a fact, is that the Nuggets really believe that they got everybody's number, and if they zero in in February or March and buckle down, then nobody can fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I think that their attitude is, because when the season started, they came in, it was about eight and one, nine and two, maybe 12 and three. You know, and they, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:17 people took a couple games off for maybe injury, maybe not, maybe rest. I really believe that the nuggets in their brain say we can turn this shit on when we're ready to turn it on.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We just talked about it yesterday morning when D'Angelo Russell told Bruce Brown, yeah, you ain't got the Joker there this time, nigga. Because niggas know when the Joker want to do what the Joker want to do. Nobody gonna stop him. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen,
Starting point is 00:18:44 man. So, do I think they're the best? Yeah, I think they're the best when they're going to need to be the best. I really, truly believe, and this could backfire on them if they don't stay in rhythm, that they think nobody can fuck with them. And when they want to turn it on,
Starting point is 00:19:01 they'll turn it on. It might be a bad idea, though. I really still think Denver is the best team, but that could really be a bad idea. When you start playing like that, when you're just like, oh, we got everybody, Denver, we're going to do just enough. I think that's what people are starting to say about Klay Thompson. Like, you get to that place where you've been good for so long,
Starting point is 00:19:23 you're like, well, I can do whatever I want, and that's not how you get to that place where you've been good for so long. You're like, well, I can do whatever I want. And that's not how you get there. And that's not how you stay there. Good points. Okay. The Timberwolves. Also real quick before we move on. Atlanta, what the fuck are y'all doing now?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, yo, y'all niggas had it two years ago. Since Murray got there, I'm not placing a blame on him. Shout out to Jingles and the crew, everybody up there in Seattle. I'm not placing a blame on him. But that's just not working. The Murray and Ice Trey is not working. And I have no idea why or what the problem is, but it's not going to work out.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Right now, y'all are in 10th place, and y'all are four games under.500. This was not the Atlanta Hawks that was looking like they're about to be on the rise two years ago, and I will tell you this. Both of y'all are young. I'm talking to Murray, and I'm talking to Ice Trey. Y'all on the clock.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Not with us, but Atlanta. If they figure out a good trade for one of y'all niggas, and I don't know if it's going to be Ice Trey, because he, you know, he puts asses into seats. So that's a big deal as well, but to keep losing like this, they will figure something out to trade one of y'all niggas.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Now, do y'all want to get traded? Maybe so. If y'all do, y'all are on the right path. I'm telling you that right now, but right now, this is not working. If y'all don't turn around, it may be a trade coming soon. What do you think about Bogdanovic getting 40 coming off the bench? He was 10 for 17. I didn't know about that.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, from three. He had 40 points, three rebounds, and two steals. Murray had 21 and six. Trey Young had 19 and nine. So they actually played a good game, but I think this is making Trey Young say, when I pass the ball, we lose. Yeah. Well, what I'm saying is this, when Young say, when I pass the ball, we lose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Well, what I'm saying is this. When I look at the score of that game, nobody's playing defense. It's 130 to like 120. Yeah, that too. Yeah, 129 to 122. Yeah, like it's niggas. But you know how niggas be going pause and that all the time? And now he's saying, that nigga's telling me to pass.
Starting point is 00:21:44 When I pass, we lose. Yeah. But when I score, we lose too. I tell her. What's the solution? So I dig what you said. I remember Allen Iverson. He had 19 and 9.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You were thinking of a point guard at 19 and 9. Yeah, I remember Allen Iverson said that about, they say I'm shooting all the time, but when I pass it to Snow and then he pass it to to Homeboy
Starting point is 00:22:07 and he pass it to me and then I get it back with five seconds on the shot clock what you want me to do? I'm going to shoot. So, a hundred percent, man.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That's a great point. I would love to hear what's going on in the locker room or the Mumbles. The Mumbles is crazy. You know when you talking about a nigga
Starting point is 00:22:24 you know when you talking about a nigga and, you know when you're talking about a nigga and they walk in, they're like, hey, I'm coming in. Yeah, them niggas is bugging. I don't think Atlanta wants to win. You know, like one of those franchises, I don't think they trying to win a championship.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Long as they get to about in the playoffs, first or second round, that's good. I think personally, my... It's not their expectation. I think my personal opinion about this
Starting point is 00:22:53 is Miami, New York, LA, a little bit New Orleans, Vegas as well. I know Vegas does have an NBA team.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm talking about Vegas. And Atlanta may be number one on the list of cities I just named most dangerous for young niggas because of everything else that goes on outside of basketball. You go get strippers at 3, 4 in the morning. My man Lemon Pepper Lou left the bubble to go to Atlanta to get chicken wings
Starting point is 00:23:24 from Florida, my nigga. Like, Atlanta is one of them cities My man Lemon Pepper Lou left the bubble to go to Atlanta to get chicken wings. From Florida, my nigga. Atlanta is one of them cities, once you finish doing what you're doing, there's a lot of things to do. And you have a lot of young players that may want other things to do outside of basketball. We talked about this with the New Orleans Pelicans. When they asked them when they was going, when they couldn't even control it.
Starting point is 00:23:43 When they, like, if they won the in- NCAA tournament. You know what we're about to do with their language. Yeah, they can start looking at each other, shit, man, we in Vegas too? That's what sometimes people are thinking about
Starting point is 00:23:55 outside of basketball. And I think Atlanta, I look, I had a good time when I go to Atlanta. I haven't been in a while, but when you go, it's a good time. You don't have to whistle me too,
Starting point is 00:24:04 Stag. You can say, you might be a little. You don't have to whistle me too, Stat. You might be a whistler of me too. I love Atlanta. That's what I'm saying. Atlanta, Houston. Atlanta, Houston, Vegas. So at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:24:20 Trey Young may be one year older than Stat. She had the same giggle that Zion and Ingram had when I said Atlanta. But she's not playing 48 minutes a night. So it's a difference. Exactly. Okay. Moving along, the Timberwolves' six-game win streak came to an end
Starting point is 00:24:39 after losing to the Pelicans 121-107. Do you think the Timberwolves would have won if they had Anthony Edwards playing? Yes. Of course they would have won. Listen, man. They only lost by what? 14?
Starting point is 00:24:57 That's like saying, do you think he would have had 14? You answer that. Well, yes, I think they would have won if they had Anthony Edwards but I'm just discussion like oh I was about to say that was pretty I thought you was going underdog fantasy
Starting point is 00:25:14 just giving the money away motherfucking Pelicans gotta do a lot to win back my motherfucking faith in them for real yeah man listen bro Bro, fucking Pelicans got to do a lot to win back my motherfucking faith for now. For real? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Listen, bro. A lot of niggas that, you know, and we got a long season. We got a lot of basketball left to play. I'm mad at these niggas who blew the opportunity against LeBron and the Lakers, man. I got a real attitude with the Pacers, and I got a real attitude with the Pelicans, because y'all didn't realize the stage that y'all was on and the opportunity that you had in front of you. I was looking at it
Starting point is 00:25:50 and I didn't want to, I thought I was bugging when I seen it, but when I heard Stephen A. Smith say it as well, I said, okay, I'm not bugging. Zion, you looking chubby paws, bro. This ain't the,
Starting point is 00:26:04 when you come in the season, that nigga. Prostitution, pardon me, not prostitution. Porno females and strippers look like they back in your environment. And food, a lot of food. Strippers,
Starting point is 00:26:22 your girlfriend, porno bitches, and food, great food down there in New Orleans, by the way, but you're not looking like the shape you came into in the season, and it's going to affect you because people are watching. You're not just a regular player sitting there going to the radar. When you're in shape, you're probably the strongest person in the NBA, pardon me.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And you're not that tall. You're like Charles Barkley with more power when you're playing basketball and when you're in shape. And right now, it's not resonating. That game, it looked like y'all just quit against the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So, no, I'm not impressed that they beat Minnesota. And I know Minnesota's in first place in the West. But like May said, I'm not going point differential or anything like that. But if Anthony Edwards was playing, no, I don't think
Starting point is 00:27:11 y'all would have won. I think Anthony Edwards, I'm not saying he's LeBron James, but I think we, you know, we talked about it. Shout out to Matt Barnes and my man Stack 5.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You can catch me on their podcast coming up soon up in smoke. And we talked about just who's the best American player and who wants to take
Starting point is 00:27:36 the league. You know, it may not be an American person who takes to be the face of the league after LeBron, but we had a hard time thinking about it and them niggas wet the bed. They wet had a hard time thinking about it. And them niggas wet the bed. They wet the bed, Pelicans. So congratulations.
Starting point is 00:27:51 What does that mean, they wet the bed? When they played against the Lakers, they fucked up. Oh, yeah. When they played against them. When I say they wet the bed, I'm talking about y'all niggas had an opportunity to show niggas on a national stage that y'all them niggas, or y'all y'all them niggas or y'all the next generation of niggas and they missed out on that. That's just my opinion.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, I think good thing that Ja coming back. I'm excited. One more game to Ja. Word. I mean, looking at the game, it doesn't seem like they really, like you was talking about, I think it was LeBron when you said this,
Starting point is 00:28:26 and I hate to agree, but it's the truth. He's the only one showing that he wants to be set apart from everybody else. It's like people are not scheduling their minds to live a life and in a way where they could be that type of player. I think it's too much people desire the fame that come with being a good basketball player more than it is wanting to be a great of player. I think it's too much people desire the fame that come with being
Starting point is 00:28:45 a good basketball player more than it is wanting to be a great basketball player. The Detroit Pistons have lost 20 straight games. What should their next steps be? I think they need to get rid of all of them.
Starting point is 00:29:06 That's a crazy statement. I think Drake got a song like that, right? Get rid of them niggas, hide some help. Yeah. Oh, that's... Yeah, right? Drake. Yeah, I'm sick of these niggas.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Hide some help. Sick of these niggas. Sick of these. Yeah, for real. Yeah, that's one of my favorite Drake joints. Yeah, hide some help. Get rid of these niggas. Get rid of these niggas sick of these yeah for real yeah that's one of my favorite Drake joints too yeah hide some help get rid of these niggas
Starting point is 00:29:27 get rid of these niggas get rid of these niggas it is what it is baby yeah like who's on who's on that team you would keep killer
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't know one nigga on that team a light skinned nigga who was the first one to die right yeah that's about it yeah you know
Starting point is 00:29:41 listen man you seen wise men away too yes you'll give up on them? I've been watching all negative highlights. All they've been showing is bad highlights of Wise Men. Like, you know, shacked in the food type shit. You giving up on them?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, I'm giving up on Wise Men. Look, I'm definitely giving up on Wise Men. I'm looking at him. He don't even fucking start. The nigga's getting 13 minutes. Go to see. Y'all fucked up with that pick. I'm looking at him. He don't even fucking start. The nigga's getting 13 minutes. Go to say, y'all fucked up with that pick. Y'all really did.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Y'all had a chance to get done. He's always hurt too. But y'all could have got mellow ball and then even have to deal with all the joint pool headache. I don't know if y'all would have got a championship,
Starting point is 00:30:17 but I think he would have fit really well with Steph Curry and Clay being that Steph plays off the ball a lot. Look, another game. who did they lose to? The Pacers. Pacers, y'all niggas, y'all blew it, man.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Porsche, y'all niggas blew it. They would have had LaMelo and Poole. So that year, Golden State because of picks, or that's the year they was hurt. Yeah. They could have got, I'm not sure if they would have had both, don't get me wrong, but. If they would have had both of them, that's the year they was hurt. Yeah. They could have got, I'm not sure if they would have had both. Don't get me wrong. If they would have had both of them,
Starting point is 00:30:47 that would be crazy. But they, they had the second pick and Wiseman was the second pick and they, LaMelo Ball, I mean, LaMelo,
Starting point is 00:30:58 yeah, LaMelo Ball was third, I believe. And imagine LaMelo Ball and Golden State with a healthy Klay healthy clay and Steph Curry. That would have been something to fucking watch. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That second pick pause is always a doozy. Like when the second and third pick is always crazy. Sam Bowie flow. Yeah, Sam Bowie and Jordan. Who else was it? Greg Oden and somebody else? Yeah, Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah, and that was just, you know what's crazy? You got Greg Oden and Sam Bowie, same organization. The Portland Trailblazers could have got Michael Jordan, but took Sam Bowie. And then years and years later, they could have got Kevin Durant and took Greg Oden. And they were saying that in the room, too. Like, we know we made this mistake before. And then they came back and made it again.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Right. That got to hurt. That got to hurt. I don't know how much ownership changes in between those two draft picks. But it's definitely a black cat in the building. those two draft picks, but it's definitely a black cat in the building. The NBA announced the end season all tournament team with Giannis, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant,
Starting point is 00:32:11 Tyrese Halliburton, and LeBron James. Do you think this was chosen correctly? Wait, I need to hear that again. Yeah. Giannis, Anthony Davis,
Starting point is 00:32:20 Kevin Durant, Tyrese Halliburton. Yeah. And LeBron James. Killer. What do you think about that? AD is in the first team. Yeah, 41 in the ship. A lot of people were saying AD should have got the MVP of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But my thing is this. Yeah, 41 in the ship and they ain't give him the MVP. No, we ain't get the MVP. My thing is this. What you think about that before we move forward? Yeah, that's why I brought it back up. 41 in the chip and niggas put the MVP over your head. You know what I'm thinking?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Like, yo, nah, these niggas is bugging. Because another game he had 20. So in the semifinals he had 20. And then in the chip he had 20. So in the semifinals, he had 20. And then in the chibi at 40, 41. I don't know how you don't get MVP. So you said he should have got MVP too, Seth? Yeah. Honestly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And what's your reasons? He played great. Like I was there, like he just played great. Like that was one of, that was a game from AD I haven't seen. He looked like the, I was there. Like, he just played great. Like, that was one of, that was a game from AD I haven't seen. He looked like the old AD right there. That was great. Like, there's nothing else to it.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And he was also playing more minutes. Like, I think even Austin Reeves might have outscored LeBron. But, like, I mean, shout out to LeBron. You didn't understand because there was no real big man he was playing against.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Miles Turner was mad at us that they were four about some outfit. Look, I'm not mad. I want to know your opinion. I'm not disagreeing with y'all. I just want to know how y'all felt about it. But the reason me personally, I would have gave it to LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:33:55 If AD got it, I would have been mad. Me personally, as a Laker and LeBron James, I would have preferred AD to get it. If I'm LeBron James, I'm like, get this nigga MVP. So it's more incentive for him to go out every night and want to fucking play. Like, yo, you could be the MVP. Look, you having 41 was part of LeBron's plan
Starting point is 00:34:14 from the beginning of the season. We said that we're going to give you the team as your team. So I think if he got MVP, it would have more incentive for him to play harder. Me personally, I think the will of LeBron James willing that team along is the reason people go so hard. I know that doesn't matter. That's not in the stat book.
Starting point is 00:34:38 The conversations outside of basketball, off the court, in the locker room, nighttime, get ready, extra practices. That does not show in the stat sheets, but you can tell and you can see who wants it more than anybody else when he's on the court out of all nine players. And if you want to go 12 with the referees,
Starting point is 00:34:57 nobody wants more, wants it more than LeBron James when he's on the basketball court. That's the only reason. If not, I'm agreeing with y'all if we're going off the analytics. And then aside from the analytics, do you guys think the players were chosen correctly
Starting point is 00:35:11 for the first in-season all-tournament team? So again, Giannis, AD, KD, Tyrese Halliburton, and LeBron James. I'm not mad at that list. I'm not mad at it. You agree? That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It looks weird without Joker on it but yeah yeah as far as the actual in season tournament goes I think that these players
Starting point is 00:35:32 definitely did what they needed so everybody outside of Kevin Durant is expecting they made it to the final four I'm saying
Starting point is 00:35:42 like Joker and I may make it to the final four okay everybody else that's on this list at least made it to the final four, I'm saying. Like Joker and I made it to the final four. Everybody else that's on this list at least made it to the final four. Okay. Well, let us know what you guys think. We're going to go to break.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And when we return, we will talk about PJ Tucker's role with the Clippers. She called this thing about toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She tired of hearing, I don't know. My stubborn in me won't fall.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about it. She want to be free. Welcome back. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. This afternoon, the Warriors will play the Suns. Underdog fantasy has Steph Curry at 28 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher.
Starting point is 00:36:43 He will need more points to beat the Suns. Okay. Nobody else doing nothing. I get higher. Definitely higher. Okay. Klay Thompson is at 22 and a half points, rebounds and assists.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Do you have him higher or lower? Cam. 22 points. 22 and a half points, rebounds and assists combined. Peter got to the point where they got to combine everything to get K to get 22. Yeah, give me the over for that.
Starting point is 00:37:09 We're going to combine everything. That's points, rebounds, and assists? Yeah. Of course the nigga got to get 22. You would think. You would think. They playing with your name right now. They definitely playing with that nigga now.
Starting point is 00:37:22 They definitely violating your name now. Because look, if you think about it, right? Think about it. Yeah. You get two assists and three rebounds and 15 points. You still don't get 22. Right. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:37:35 You would think. You got 12. Yeah. Four rebounds. Yeah. Five assists. That still ain't 22. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:42 They playing with you, bro. They playing with you for real. Clay, they volley your name. You never know because in the Trailblazers, he had 11 points. Thunder, 22 points. Clippers, 17.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So, it's iffy. Devin Booker is at seven assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Lower. He's going to get more points. Seven. He's getting more points than us.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He's going to get more points. I'm going to points than this. He's going to get more points. I'm going to go higher. Okay. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. Okay. New report. According to Shams,
Starting point is 00:38:13 it's been reported that PJ Tucker is frustrated with his role in the Clippers. They're trying to decide if they can find a role for him there or somewhere else. What do you think the best decision would be? My nigga Church. My nigga Church out there told me P.J. Tucker's still in the league
Starting point is 00:38:33 only because of James Hahn. He liked the little seat on the motorcycle. You know that motorcycle? The bouncy seat. The shit that you put on the side right here, like when you got the motorcycle, it's the little seat right here. Everywhere my crew go.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah, nigga said he wouldn't have no job if it wasn't for James Hart right now. The Clippers, they're still not where they need to be but in their last 10 games
Starting point is 00:38:59 they are 73 since Trey and James Hart. PJ hasn't played in the last five games. I know he's frustrated. I don't know if the Clippers were the place for him to be. I think where P.J. Tucker needs to be and where he excelled at,
Starting point is 00:39:17 even though it was for half a season, was Milwaukee. They got Bobby Portis, but P.J. can hit that quarter three. He's getting down in dirty paws, and he would be a good backup for Portis, if you ask my opinion. But it's definitely not working out in the last, since he's been with the Clippers.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I seen a meme actually on social media the other day, and they said, kids, keep your dreams alive. You can still go to the NBA. And I had P.J. Tucker like last 17, 18 games, 0.0.0.0.0.0. And I was like, damn, man. They basically saying anybody can go to the NBA.
Starting point is 00:40:00 P.J. Tucker's in the NBA. I disagree. You know, P.J. Tucker, that's my guy. You know, we.J. Tucker, that's my guy. You know, we talk sneakers. He got a lot of sneakers and shit. But this is going to be tough. And I like his story because, you know, it isn't like he went to a big school, got drafted,
Starting point is 00:40:18 he comes out of D3 school. I like the story, but I hope it doesn't end like this. Yeah. I think because P.J. Tucker, like you said, his story is so appealing and so uplifting to many that it's important that he be on a team that he could actually play and contribute to keep that good story going on. I think he would actually do well also in Milwaukee or Denver,
Starting point is 00:40:46 somewhere like that, where he could come off the bench in a good team. But it's crazy when you're playing on a team and they're playing better without playing you. It's kind of hard to argue that. They've been seven and three probably since he's been there. I know he played in 12 games. He scored, he's averaging 14 points. But in those 12 games, the Clippers are almost like seven and three in the last 10 games. So then we stop playing you and we start winning. How do you like really get them back in the system? If he was a part of the
Starting point is 00:41:25 the rotation when they wasn't winning right and also let me correct I was thinking about something else PJ Tucker did go to University of Texas
Starting point is 00:41:34 yeah so pardon me when I said so that's that's it you know yep it's in games
Starting point is 00:41:41 seven and three right Gilbert Arena says Klay Thompson Never improved his game He said Even though he has Four rings
Starting point is 00:41:50 He's still a spot shooter So one Do you agree And is there another player You think that just Hasn't improved their game That's crazy That is true
Starting point is 00:42:02 There's some truth to that I said that before Now nigga Now Gilbert Arena Say he's You know He talking about That's crazy. It's true. There's some truth to that. I said that before. Now, nigga, now Gilbert Arena said he know what he talking about. I said, shit is wild with y'all niggas. I said this shit like three weeks ago. I'm like, when we was talking about the contract, I said, look, right or wrong, I said he can't get a nigga off him. I was like, yo, that nigga Clay cannot. If a nigga run down, he got a quick release pause, but he can't get a nigga off him.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I said, he ain't got none of this. I just said this like two weeks ago. And that's exactly what Gilbert Arias is saying. He's a spot shooter. If Klay had three or four moves, Klay would be outstanding. Not saying he's not outstanding now, but at the end of the day, he has, if you get up on Klay, he got none of this. He don't even got a jab to get into something.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And you've been in the league long enough to have. To at least have a jab, one dribble behind the back, cross something. Right, exactly. But he's such a tremendous shooter that I think that he thinks that that'll carry him the rest of his career. And right now that's not working for him.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You know, me and Mesa have been talking about Clay's contract coming up over the last couple of weeks. And this is exactly what we're talking about. The cat's out the bag, baby. They know that you can't get nobody off, and now your shot's not falling, so that's a problem as well.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Your shot always fell. Now it's your shot not falling. When you go to the basket, it looks forced. It looks like you're struggling to get a defender off of you, and the shot's not falling, so... He doesn't even have a crazy layup package for us, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:43 So if he... Have you ever seen Klay do a step-over jump shot? have a crazy layup package for us, right? Yeah, absolutely. So if he, if, have you ever seen Klay do a step over jump shot? I haven't seen him. I don't, look, when Klay Thompson has 70 points, think about this. This is a wild stat. He has 70 points.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He dribbled 11 times. I'm not saying be a dribble ball hog, like go crazy. Like we New York niggas so 11 dribbles that's that's before you get to half court that's you might come up to court before you get to half court is 11 dribbles as a new yorker but i'm saying that means you just catch you catch you maybe one dribble shoot that's wild 11 dribbles or 70 points and i always thought about that. I'm like, that nigga just has
Starting point is 00:44:26 a quick release. He can shoot or if you leave him open, he's going to knock it down. But... He was taught it wasn't about that. You could tell.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He was taught it ain't about that. Just get the basket. Right. Exactly. Exactly. How do you play this long and don't have three moves?
Starting point is 00:44:42 Right. Absolutely. It's just a jab, up fake, right? What else? And then shoot. Like, you got to think about it, right?
Starting point is 00:44:55 And I'm not comparing the two because whoever you like better, you like better. At least Ray Allen had moves. Yeah. He could get to the basket. Reggie Miller, too. Reggie Miller too. You know what I'm saying? Reggie Miller had the best
Starting point is 00:45:07 hill in the world, but like you said, or Ray Allen, but they had things to get people up off. And Reggie went and spent that summer with Kobe.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Like I advise you to do, Clay. You need to go spend a summer with Kyrie. That would be great for your career. It definitely will. But, um.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Or Shamguard, one of them. Shamguard, Kyrie.. Shamguard, Gary. Absolutely. Be wonderful for you. Yeah. But as far as, um, that max contract, man, it's looking further and further away. When a nigga got a dollar on the fishing pole and say, you got to be quicker than that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 a fishing pole and say, you got to be quicker than that. So it's either me or with the dollar or either one. You know what? He's trying to get the dollar and go to state management. It's like, you got to be quicker than that, man. It doesn't look good for this extension,
Starting point is 00:46:02 man. So I hope it works out for him, bro. The reason why I bust out laughing is because when the dollar's on a fishing bowl stat, they're never intended for you to get the dollar. In the first place. That's just the excuse for not giving it to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 So I don't know. But to give me the read this point, I don't know any other player who hasn't got gotten that much better I think that Clay's always been stable and the shot's been falling
Starting point is 00:46:31 and now the shot's not falling he's being exposed right who is another player no there's a few other players
Starting point is 00:46:39 who haven't gotten better I'm just kidding of his magnitude okay of his magnitude who's been that level and never got any better um I agree. I'm just kidding. Of his magnitude. Okay, of his magnitude. Who's been that level and never got any better? My goodness.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It got to be somebody. This is one of them choices we think about. Yeah, we can revisit it. I think it is a good question. Because, like Mace said. I know back in the day, they were like Robert Ori. He just always stayed the same. But he never was the person, you know, Robert Ory was a specialty almost.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. It wasn't like he was the starter with Clay's the number two starter. Yeah, you're right, you're right. And it isn't like you ever held him accountable because his name pours his big shot, Bob, for a reason. He comes in and does what he's supposed to do pause okay
Starting point is 00:47:26 so a little interesting story when talking about a past date aaron gordon said i went on a date with this girl one time last thing she had on her phone was aaron gordon's net worth so one i want to ask are you guys surprised by that and then two do you guys have a odd date story that you guys would like to share? Or something like that has maybe happened. Last thing on her phone. Aaron Gordon's net worth. I don't know how he saw it.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. I don't know. Because what are you like, here's your Instagram. Maybe he's seen it headlined. I don't know. Or she had her phone flipped on the table. I don't know. Yo, that's great. I'm going to keep it 100.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It ain't surprising, though. It's not surprising. What I was going to say is I'm keeping it 100. If I just meet you, I'm going through your phone when you sleep, too, because I don't know what you're trying to rob me, trying to scheme on me. And if I go to the Alzheimer's medicine cabinet, I'm Googling shit.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And if that shit say, say like just had a baby medicine abortion medicine gonorrhea cause you know the names be like inflexiscus mark X so you gotta take a picture of that shit and google it later look it's a lot of things I do
Starting point is 00:48:44 you go in and take a medicine cause they be having mad medicine in there you don't know what it mean later. Look, it's a lot of things I do, brother. If they be having mad medicine in there, you don't know what it mean. I'm going right in the medicine cabinet and take a because it's been several times that I've seen them like, oh, nah. If you see some pills, you taking a picture of it?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Because it be... You haven't been to a female's house in years. There'd be several medicines in people. You know, ibuprofen or something like that. You looking at what the medicine means?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, later on. I'm not going to lie. I've seen one. How many medicines do you have to see before you say this
Starting point is 00:49:26 is a no go after I google what they are because you know sometimes you
Starting point is 00:49:33 may got anxiety like alright shorty just a little rattle or you might got
Starting point is 00:49:38 ibuprofen you be like okay a little bit pain when you start seeing it let me
Starting point is 00:49:42 tell you something when medicine start with z-Y-X and the rest of it, you don't even know how to pronounce it. Z-Y-X. Like, when I see that, I'm scared. I'm taking pictures and I'm Googling.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It's like a true story. I was at my homegirl house. I won't say one of my female I used to deal with in the Midwest. I won't say the city. I took a picture and the pill was for right after
Starting point is 00:50:11 abortion. You take the medicine. I looked at the date. Let's just say I was there January 10th. It was issued the 6th. I'm like, yo, come on, man. January 6th? And I'm there to tell him,
Starting point is 00:50:26 you ain't even supposed to let a nigga in that quick. He's like, yo. You ain't even got your stitches out. Yeah, that's like, I think that's like a six-week thing, if I'm not mistaken. You know what I'm saying? I may be wrong, but this is, huh?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, like, then you being greedy. You know what I'm saying? At this point, you can't, you know, so that's why I do that. Back to Aaron Goyen. I'm not just searching to go on your phone but if it's open,
Starting point is 00:50:52 yo, this nigga got everything, girl. I'm telling you right now. Yeah. Yeah. And he leaving his watch around
Starting point is 00:50:59 this down the third. I'll tell you another story. This is the last thing before I wrap this up. I swear on everything I love. Me and my nigga Bub, we was, we had met a couple females,
Starting point is 00:51:14 not saying we was indulgent, but they fell out with each other. You know what I'm saying? They ended up falling out with each other. So I called the girl back that I met
Starting point is 00:51:24 that introduced the other girl to Bub. So I was the girl back that I met that introduced herself to a girl named Bub. So I was like, where's our friend that Bub was hanging out with that time? I'm not saying Bub did anything. He was just hanging out. And the girl said, I don't fuck with her no more. And I said, damn, that was quick. What happened?
Starting point is 00:51:38 She said, she kept talking about maybe taking one of y'all watches when y'all was asleep. So I cut bitches like that off. I cut her ass off because I'm like, yo, I don't trust you neither. Sound like more to the story. And you was involved with it. And this is why.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Sound like before she said you was going to take a watch. Right. You do her under the bus. Right, exactly. So, yeah, if Aaron going, I don't blame him. I'm not saying go through sick stuff and all that stuff, but you got to be careful when you're in a position where you're making millions of dollars or tens of millions
Starting point is 00:52:18 or potentially hundreds of millions of dollars like Aaron going. I'm not sure about his contract. I wouldn't continue the date. I wouldn't continue it. That sucks, though. I mean, unless you're just going to go crazy on her because now you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Well, my thing is this. I agree with you, Murda. You're good with my net worth. You're not here for me. Yeah, you're definitely not here for you. You're not here for me because you're worrying about how much
Starting point is 00:52:45 I got and what you could potentially get. Now I can see if she Googled Aaron Gordon previous girlfriends. How many kids does he have? Has he ever been married? Aaron Gordon, net worth? Oh, no. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:53:01 She definitely pocket watcher. And we know what that's going to turn into. Pocket watching. Going to leave the ear hustling. Ear hustling. And with a regular nigga pillow talking. Yeah, so she definitely listening into conversations. She's definitely planning how she can orchestrate the money.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And some people are so gifted at stealing, they don't take everything. They just be taking little by little. Yeah. And I totally agree with that 100% because you got to realize it's females who strictly know their scheme and I hate to say
Starting point is 00:53:47 there's a whole special on it years ago. They're plotting and it's fucked up. They're plotting on a junior now or senior in high school now
Starting point is 00:53:56 saying he's going to be the next one or he's going to be the next one. And what happens is if you're not prepared see thank God thank God
Starting point is 00:54:08 and it can't be for everybody and this is no cap realistically I'm glad I grew up in the inner city me personally like when we say the inner city Harlem may be the most inner city ever
Starting point is 00:54:22 like I don't this is the inner city you mean one of I don't, this is the inner city. You mean one of everything. It's everything. This is like, you know, because I remember I went to school in Dallas
Starting point is 00:54:31 and it's like, you know, I go to the city and I get there, I'm like, all right, this is cool. This ain't the city city.
Starting point is 00:54:36 You know what I'm saying? Like Harlem, not New York, but Harlem is the most city, city, city, city, city shit that you can live in. So when you see things and go out the places and people trying to get over on you, you're kind of used to it because you're from an environment where everybody's been trying to get over on you. Your whole life.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Your whole life. So it's like, yo, you can't get over on me because I've been trying to get over on since I was seven years old. My mom put the phone bill in my name, my nigga. I haven't fucked up on credit since I got 18 years old. I was already behind the eight ball. So, you know, you know, look at it. And so a lot of times these athletes been top notch since they was eight, nine, 10, 11 years old. And look,
Starting point is 00:55:26 not to bring them up or anything like that, because I know you had a little bit of controversy the last couple of months, but look, Dwight Howard gets drafted to the Orlando magic. He's there. However many months has a baby with a cheerleader. 18 years old.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. 18 best player. He been since he was probably seventh grade. 18 years old? Yeah. 18, best player he'd been since he was probably seventh grade, sixth grade, whatever. Cheerleader, turned him out, did a somersault on the nigga joint,
Starting point is 00:55:53 paused and popped right in there. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing, listen, man. Good thing with us, and it's not a good thing. When we was growing up in the 90s,
Starting point is 00:56:08 AIDS was running rampant, like rampant, like, you know, Magic Johnson caught AIDS in the 90s. Eazy-E caught AIDS in the 90s. So condoms was heavy. Condoms really been heavy. They had AIDS commercials
Starting point is 00:56:20 that used to scare you. You know, you used to have, you know, all these different... Yeah, niggas didn't know you could live with it. Niggas didn't know you could live. You got AIDS, you was dead next week. You got AIDS, you was dead. Before next week.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Right, that's a fact. That's how much fear that is. That's how much fear AIDS is. Nobody was going, nobody was raw doing anything raw. That's a fact because you were so paranoid between drugs and AIDS and the commercials that you would see. Not only that, the people you would grow up around make your AIDS
Starting point is 00:56:48 addicted to drugs. Yeah, you ain't know nobody who lived from it. Right. You ain't know nobody. My father died from AIDS. So, yeah, in that era, you don't know anybody who lives from it. And now, niggas is just taking a little cocktail and like, you know, my age was acting up yesterday
Starting point is 00:57:06 and I'm good. Yeah, like, you can't spread it. It's like, imagine somebody tell you, you can't spread it. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:14 exactly. So, now it's more niggas ain't using condoms and they pull out game this week. And these bitches is knowing that.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So, y'all gotta pay attention to this shit. All she needed to know was the network. Yeah, shout out to my nigga D. And these bitches is knowing that. So y'all got to pay attention to this shit. All she needed to know was the network. Yeah, shout out to my nigga D.R. Sanders too. Big salute, Coach Prom. Coach Prom actually seen me and Mace's episodes when we was shooting in Miami during our first season. And we was talking about something similar to this.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And he wanted me and Mace to come. And we're still going to come down there, Coach. We'll probably come down from there for spring. And just talk to the kids about stop paying to get girls' bodies done. Stop cash-apping somebody you ain't me. He's making budget. It's good. Coach Proud was disturbed by that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:58:02 He didn't get a body done. Yeah, Coach Proud. Coach Proud had disturbed by that whole shit. He didn't get a body done. Damn, Coach Proud had a whole... You got to realize, think about it, Murdo. A BBL 7,500 and they get a million. They get like, yo, Coach, stop tripping, man. I only threw her 10 racks. Coach Proud is older than us, so he probably losing his damn mind about that shit.
Starting point is 00:58:24 He needed 10 racks. Yeah, go ahead. The BBL and the massage shit after we got to stay in the house where they call,
Starting point is 00:58:32 you know, massage ladies rub you up and down and all that shit. 10 racks for the BBL? What about a, she got to do her breasts if she do a BBL.
Starting point is 00:58:40 That's what she going to tell the nigga next. That's what Coach, that nigga, when you lie, you steal. That's what Coach, that nigga. Not even the same one, the next one. When you lie, you steal. When you steal, you rob. When you rob, you kill.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's that type of swag. So, Coach Brown, we didn't forget about you. We know that it was a real hectic year. When I say hectic, congratulations on the year that you had. I know it isn't what you expected, but I see what you're doing and recruiting me and Mason and Stat did not forget about you.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And we're going to come down there real soon. We just see that you had a media mayhem going on this year and we'll be down there real soon. And then real quick, just as a woman's perspective in regards to the Aaron Gordon situation, just as an athlete,
Starting point is 00:59:25 y'all just, all I can say is just be careful because I feel like the wrong girl, not even feel like I know the wrong girl can mess up your whole game and y'all be stuck in the wrong with the wrong people. So look, just stay focused, keep it pushing. Right one will come. If hopefully you already met her, if not, it's going to be harder down the line. That's just the truth, but that's how it is. Just be careful. That's all I got to say. So you think you got to meet them earlier
Starting point is 00:59:48 for them to be more the right ones? I honestly think, yeah. I think it's got to be somebody you met before. After you get famous, it's too late. The status, the money,
Starting point is 00:59:55 things change. People start acting weird. I think it's sad. I don't think it's no right answer because at the end of the day as well, look,
Starting point is 01:00:05 once you're famous, like Mace said, it's like, damn, unless end of the day as well, look, once you're famous, like Mae said, it's like, damn, unless you meet somebody just as famous that you can vibe with. But then at the same time,
Starting point is 01:00:12 if it's a childhood sweetheart or something like that, you may outgrow them as well and they're not prepared for the lifestyle that you're about to live or that you're living as well.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Look, and big shout out to my baby mom. I love her. Love her to death. Well, they don't want your life. That's what I was about to say. That was it. I was about to say, my baby mom's, big shout out to her.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I love her. Great mother. I knew her since I was nine years old. Mace knows her. Tough, tough female from Harlem. She didn't want the life that I wanted. And she let me know that, like,
Starting point is 01:00:46 here, if you're going to do this, get ahead, but this ain't really what I want. And it caused me my relationship with her. But at the same time, she respected what I was trying to do. Never jumped in the media,
Starting point is 01:00:57 never said no foul shit about me. Could have, would have, you know, I be seeing these niggas, rappers, babies, mothers going crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So I just want to thank her for that and tell her how much I appreciate her for that but at the same time what I wanted is not what she wanted okay we're going to go to break
Starting point is 01:01:13 and then when we return we will talk about the new largest athletic contract don't go anywhere She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe i'm my own problem babe she tired of hearing
Starting point is 01:01:50 i don't know what's happening me won't fall oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about she wanna be free She wanna be free Why am I in this one? She wanna be free Welcome back. So we don't really talk baseball often, but this is one to talk about. Shohei Otani signed a lucrative $700 million deal
Starting point is 01:02:18 with the Dodgers. This makes him the world's highest paid athlete, but he will only earn around $2 million a year because $680 million will be deferred until the contract is completed, which will be paid between 2034 and 2043. Is this a good deal? Is that like
Starting point is 01:02:36 an Iverson deal? Like where he started getting the money? Iverson still ain't getting his money. That shit was some pension shit with Iverson. Iverson don't get his money until he turn 55. With Reebok, that is. With Reebok, I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Is it one of them deals where they just, like, preserve the money till later to make sure you never go broke? He from Asia. They got him over there. I don't think he ever going to go broke. I really don't know. When I was talking about, I was talking to somebody outside before we started filming about this particular contract.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And what I was saying to me, my personal opinion is the Dodgers must know something that we don't. Like one of them, if you don't, I mean, I don't know if it's a guaranteed contract or not. I have to do some more homework. Is he married?
Starting point is 01:03:23 I don't think so. I don't know if it's a guaranteed contract or not. I have to do some more homework on it. Is he married? I don't think so. All right, thanks. Yeah. That might be the new way niggas is getting over on their baby mothers for now. Give it to me later. Keep a horse. Give me the money later nigga be 24
Starting point is 01:03:46 yo I ain't thinking yeah I ain't thinking that that's what I was thinking nigga Tito just came in and said oh baseball contract that's a good fucking point that's the first thing I thought that's what I said is he married
Starting point is 01:04:03 that is a great fucking interview. Because you know, if he going to court, it's like he doesn't get the money to 2054. If you got a 15-year-old, 14-year-old, that contract is actually really good. It's enough to take care of you to where you don't get no extras. You're already going to get extras with two million a year.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So whoever's with him, they're going to have to be there for the long haul. Yeah. Now, for a chick to wait that out, that's just devious. Yeah. Because let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Stat didn't like that. Stat didn't like that. Let me tell you something, because I want to get this right. I want to... That nigga get his money in 50 in 2050. Like, this... I'm going to tell you,
Starting point is 01:04:49 this is the last thing before... I want to make sure I get this right and I want to say it right. And I'll let you guys end it. But this will be... This will be my last thing for the show today. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm going to make sure I type in the right thing. Mm-hmm. I'm going to make sure I type in the right thing. I'm going to get it back tomorrow. Bring it back tomorrow. But let me tell you something. You're having a custody battle. Janet Jackson. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Well, her baby father, right? Janet Jackson. I'm going to make sure I say get it right tomorrow because I didn't think about it until just now. It was, you know, she had a baby with some super rich,
Starting point is 01:05:29 like, billionaire nigga. It was some shit where if the baby is a boy, she gets $50 million
Starting point is 01:05:39 if it turns out to be a boy. And if she's- $50 million how? Oh, she was divorced and that much time? No. If he to be a boy. $50 million how? Oh, she was divorced and then my son? No, if he gave her a boy, which nobody has no control over, but if you have my son,
Starting point is 01:05:54 an extra $50 million. And if our marriage lasts longer than five years, you get another $50 million. She had a son, and she filed for divorce five years and one day later after. So she got like an
Starting point is 01:06:11 extra 100 million. And that's why I said I wanted to make sure because I was watching the story on TV and I'm like, Janet waited a nigga out? You know what I'm saying? And I wanted to make sure I got the money. And then she allegedly was hanging back out with Jermaine Dupri. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Hey, man, listen. Nigga, Jermaine might have been in on it. Jermaine watched the show every day. Jermaine, that was Jermaine Murdoch. I ain't got nothing to do with it. Jermaine watched the show every day. I mean, that was props to Jermaine. I mean, if she got the money and she could have her choice,
Starting point is 01:06:44 she wanted Jermaine. I mean, if she got the money and she could have her choice, she wanted Jermaine. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at it, but the wait out game was wild. Yeah. Vow for divorce
Starting point is 01:06:51 one or two days later after this five year marriage thing is up. Janet do it to you then. We don't stand no chance out here, my niggas. There's a few of us.
Starting point is 01:07:02 There's a few ladies out here, but goddamn Janet. Janet, little penny. Pleasure principle. out here, my niggas. There's a few of us. There's a few ladies out here, but goddamn, Janet? Janet? Lil' Penny? Pleasure principle. Yeah, man. I was fucking Willis' girlfriend
Starting point is 01:07:12 on different strokes. I know that Stat don't know what the fuck we talking about with Lil' Penny and Willis on different strokes, but goddamn, man. Charlene was her name. It wasn't Charmaine. It was something, man. I know Willis couldn different strokes, but goddamn, man. Charlene was her name. It wasn't Charmaine.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It was something, man. I know Willis couldn't give her a billion. Well, on that note, shout out to Otani for making history. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

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