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It is what it is.
I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam.
Marla, what's up, man?
You're looking like a 90s West Coast rapper right now.
I like that, man.
I look at you out on a...
I always get tried with a one.
No, if you out on the White Sox...
Now, you got like a white socks hat on, you would look NWA's right now.
MC ring glasses and all that.
I know they design, I ain't trying to offend you.
I know they design them.
I'm talking about like the shape of them.
You know what I mean?
It was good.
Yeah.
Chilling, man.
It's too cold on the East Coast, man.
I got to get back to the West Coast.
Yeah, I heard, man.
That's why Sugar's here.
Shug knocked on my door.
It ain't cold enough.
They just showed up in my door and shit, man.
They told you had one of them cash at Mafias.
Ding.
Oh, come on, baby.
Hey, yo, murder.
That's one thing.
That's one thing about this, about niggas.
When that camera, come on, they know what they can say and what they can't say.
My bad, my bad.
Yeah, man.
Niggas say ding.
Yeah, niggins said, ding.
He said, ding, it kept it moving.
Look at it, nigga, legs, switching,
balls and all that now.
Now it's crazy.
With Dibo with his bike.
Yeah, I'll be laughing again.
Yeah, nigga said when the show off,
I'll be laughing again.
Debo.
Well, Shook, I'll save you here. Mace, glad to see you. Cam, glad to see you.
We're going to start with the NBA trade deadline, which we know is February 5th. So we just got a couple teams and even some specific players to go over. We're going to start with Carl, Anthony Towns. We know that there's still a lot of talks about him. What should happen? Where should he go? But my question to you guys is, and Mace, do you think the criticism towards Kat is fair? Or do you think it should be directed?
to someone else on the team.
Or maybe even coach, what are your thoughts?
No, I think when they come to the Knicks,
you can trust that cat is going to show up.
Carl Anthony Towns and the big game is going to show up.
I think they're putting too much into this.
It's almost like when you're ready to dump somebody you're dating,
you start talking wild against them
because you know you're getting ready to dump them.
I think that's what is going on when they come to Carl Anthony Towns.
They know they're about to get rid of them.
So this is where they start bringing up all this stuff.
It's almost like when they was going to trade, what's his name,
Draymond Green.
And then they were saying, oh, he beat up.
The tape came out with him beating up.
What's the guy?
Joy and Pool.
He used to be dumb lights.
Yeah, Jordan Pool.
And now all of a sudden that tape comes out.
Why?
Because Pool is balling and they're trying to keep them,
or they're trying to get them for less money.
This is just a game in the NBA plays.
So I wouldn't put much into it.
It's just the normal thing that happens
when you're about to get rid of somebody.
I agree with you.
I'm just going to add on to it.
That was a perfect analogy of a female
that you're about to get rid of
and you start saying crazy shit about her.
But not only that, because you might could get a batter bitch.
I think all this call Anthony Towns hate is
because they know they could possibly get the Greek freak.
And it would take him and probably a couple other people
to get the Greek freak.
So they're like, yo, this nigga ain't really been producing
for us anyway like that.
This thing ain't all that.
When last year, niggas was arguing
he was the best big man in the East, period.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you see Nick Fins in the garden booing this nigga.
He does not deserve to get booed at all.
They said, look, if we got to get rid of this nigga,
get the Greek freak.
We never liked you anyway, nigga.
That's what's going on.
I think that was a great analogy, Mace.
Perfect.
And I would just add on to it.
It isn't just dumping the chick.
It's about a chick waiting for you.
And that's why all the haters coming their way.
Like I was talking to a couple Nick fans,
mainly saying he already, you know, the package, poorest deal.
He's talking about, yeah, they talk about Carl Anthony Towns,
McKell Bridges, somebody else, and somebody else.
Yeah, we'll do that for.
for Greek Freak.
And I'm like,
damn, y'all niggas was just loving
Carl Anthony Towns a year ago.
Y'all saying this is the year
that the Knicks should be going
to the championship
because of all the injuries
in the East Coast.
And now y'all want to break the team up.
Think about getting rid of McElbell Bridges.
They gave up like 92 draft picks for that,
like, of course I'm exaggerating,
but it's a wild amount of draft pick.
I think it was five or six draft picks
for the next five, six years.
And now you're thinking about getting rid of him.
I tell you this much, this much.
It's one thing getting rid of Carl Anthony Towns
and maybe a couple of other pieces,
but I don't think you win without McEl Bridges.
He's one of them Chris Middleton-type players
that you need on the team to win a championship,
even if you get the Greek freak.
So I don't think that's smart giving him up.
Maybe Carl Anthony Towns and some other pieces,
but I would almost say give up Josh Hartbook for McCall Bridges.
McEl Bridges could catch fire,
mid-range game, decent,
could shoot the three once in a while, but he could score.
I don't think that you package him in with the Knicks,
if you're getting Greek freak.
But murder, that was spot on saying getting ready of a girl.
I just, like I said, add on, it's about a bitch waiting.
That's it.
Yeah, and women do it to guys all the time.
Guys don't know he's on the outs.
That's why she's talking to you crazy.
She wants you to leave so she don't have to tell you to go, you know?
I wasn't always title towns.
I'm learning.
Learning something to do literally every day.
This is the only show where you will get an analogy like that
because I've never heard something like that in my life,
but y'all are spot on.
And then even to y'all's point,
you're saying when you know somebody badders coming,
they're trying to put all the blame on cats.
So it's like, but we're not a broken home.
We're still good over here.
So when we bring somebody, just know we're still good.
He was the problem.
It was nobody else here.
And that's why I'm just like,
Yeah, so they don't look bad dumping them.
People like, yo, why did you do that?
They can't.
So now they're setting up the stage so everybody knows.
You know, we had to do that, you know?
He was getting beside itself.
Crazy world out there.
Okay, so now let's get on to the next team.
So the Pistons, they have the best record in the East.
Mace, do you believe that they can keep this momentum?
Or do you think that they will have to shake something up on their end?
Oh, man.
Pause.
This is the first bad boys, right?
This is where you get the name from before they was going crazy with the oils and all that.
This was the first bad boys.
When it was Isaiah, when it was Dumas, when it was, you know, Vinnie Johnson.
And I like the idea of this Detroit team being the first in the east.
I think they could keep it up.
I hope they can keep it up.
And it kind of, it's kind of like something they had in the workings for a long time.
It just seemed like their process took a little bit longer than, um, than usual, but it didn't take as long as Philly.
I remember Philly was in a process.
That process, we still haven't seen that process, right?
So, but I really like this Detroit team.
I like what, um, Cave is doing.
I like that entire team.
It seemed like a real hardworking team.
And you just think about it a few years ago
They were selling
Cause hot dogs
They was giving away free chicken
They were giving away free food
For people to come to the games
I think a front row seat was like
$10 or something like that
So Detroit has come a long way
Maybe that's where I went in the hat, you know?
Detroit in the house, man
All the players
Um
Detroit looks good
They look really good
And last year, they looked really good in the playoffs.
Murder alluded to it a little bit how it wasn't just Detroit taking a minute.
Everybody thought that Kay Cunningham was going to come into the league and be effective immediately.
And even though he was decent, I said he wasn't good.
He's turning into the superstar.
No, not there.
Yeah, he's an all-star, not a superstar, but he has superstar potential right in front of him.
And not only that, Tobias Harris kind of went.
there resurrected his career as well.
You know, we looked at Tobias Harris
when he was in Philadelphia and be like,
come on, man, you're 6-8,
you're athletic, what are you doing?
You know, the way he's playing now
in Detroit, if he were to play
like that in Philly, I actually believe
they could at least been to the championship
with a healthy Joel Embed
and a young up-and-coming Tirese Maxie.
But it seemed like he couldn't get anything done
in Philly and now in Detroit,
sometimes you need new scenery.
and he's looking really good in Detroit.
I'm not saying, to me, if something's not broke, don't fix it.
It's about what Detroit does in the playoffs,
and I think they made a real decent run last year in the playoffs,
even though they exited early,
but it's all a growing process for Cade Cunningham,
and the people they have surrounding him is real good.
You got a six-game lead in the east.
Leave it alone.
Let's see what happens.
I think if they continue to play this way,
this is why the Knicks are in such turmoil.
Let's think about this.
If the Knicks are where Detroit is right now,
We're not talking about trading Carl Anthony Towns or McElbrizz or anybody else.
It wouldn't even be a subject at the trade deadline because we all thought the Knicks were coming and dominate the East Coast at least this season.
And it hasn't been that.
Detroit has been the real surprise in the East.
Leave it alone.
Let's see where it goes.
I wouldn't touch anything before the trade deadline from Detroit.
You have a real comfortable lead on the East Coast.
You end up could possibly finish in with the number one seat.
It's about what they're doing in the play.
else.
Yeah, and this is also another thing to think about when they come to the Knicks and teams always thinking
next year, we was just this close last year.
So this year we got to be even closer.
No, next year there will be another team that we wasn't thinking about.
And that's what Detroit is showing us.
You don't have a guaranteed spot because you was this close last year.
And this year we'll get it all together.
know there'll be another team that emerges out of nowhere and take that spot.
This is another reason why when it's your time to do it, you have to do it.
You can be thinking about next year.
Okay.
And then another team I want to talk about before we move on.
So the Timberwolves, Mace, do you think they could benefit from another playmaker?
Do you think that this formula that they have right now works and it's good they don't need to do anything?
The Timberwolves are definitely a piece away, right?
They have to get somebody else other than Anthony Edwards.
I remember we was talking about DiVincenzo really being a person that knocked down some big shots.
I thought he would be more explosive on that team.
I thought he would be hitting more shots.
They have to figure out a way to get him some more looks.
but I wouldn't add another playmaker to that team
because I think it would kind of like clog up,
pause the perimeter.
Sometime when you got too many slashes that don't work,
you need one slasher, you need a playmaker,
and you need somebody who could spot up and make big shots,
and that's the only thing they want to do.
That's why sometimes it works to have a guy who can't even dribble,
but he can knock down threes.
I think they need Devin Chenzel to go to another level,
and they need another piece.
But I'm not sure if they don't already have that piece.
Remember, they had that plane guard
that came out of Kanye High School.
I forgot his name.
He was a really, really good guard.
He should be about ready to play.
His handle is wicked.
So he may be the other player they need.
They just need to give him a shot.
They need a piece.
And the reason I'm going to say they need a piece is because...
They have the piece, pause, but it's not turning out to what they thought it would be.
And before I get to that, Devenzo is not shooting as good as they thought he would shoot.
Even though he's a good shooter, you know, you're looking at him to come in and be that three-point threat.
Not only that I can get to the basket once in a while, but the piece that they do have is not paying out to be the piece that they thought it would be is Julius Randall.
Julius Randall, you have to realize where Julius Randall is, right?
He's the man on the next, the go-to.
To where Jalen Brunson, even when he got there, he had to defer to Julius Randall.
Julius Randall gets hurt.
Jalen Brunson emerges to be a superstar during that time that Julius Randall gets hurt.
So Minnesota is saying, okay, look, we already have a center with Rudy Gobert.
We see it there and work with Rudy and Carl.
Julius is a strong power for it.
He could score.
He was actually a first option, even though he may not be a first option,
but at the Knicks for a time period, he was the first option.
Maybe he could be out second option, you know, and it just hasn't panned out to be.
For what reason, I don't know why.
I'm not saying that Julius Randall isn't good.
He isn't great.
I'm not going to say great.
He's very good.
But the consistency, you know, you have to think about this last year, and I haven't checked this year,
nobody got double team more than Anthony Edwards, period, and triple team, for that matter.
If you go to the stats, he was the number one double team player per player in the NBA.
So if you're going to get double teamed all the time, that means teams are not trusting your other players.
They're like, let him beat us, as long as he doesn't beat us, pause.
Talking about Anthony Edwards.
Let Devenzo shoot.
Let's see what Julius Randall come on can do.
leave Grudy go be outside the paint.
We're not worried about him.
They're not trusting the other players.
And Julius Randall, if he can be consistent,
then I think they're right there.
But because of his inconsistency night to night,
that's the problem.
But I think he would have been the piece
or still could be the piece if he gets it together.
But Ant Man is going to get double, triple team,
so on and so forth,
even to the point where a lot of people didn't notice
to a lot of said,
And I'm not saying like the general public.
But niggas I talked to when I was telling them last year,
Anthony Edwards led the league in three-point shots.
They're like, get the fuck out of it.
Because you know he's such an exciting player that you see him going to the basket,
see him Dunkin.
And you think about Steph Curry and James Hardin
and all these other players, Kevin Durant, to shoot threes.
And you're like, how the fuck that Anthony Edwards
lead the league in three-pointers made?
Because you have to start shooting jump shots.
You go to the basket, they're collapsing on him.
and he worked on the jump shot to where he let the league in threes,
but the piece they need,
I'm not sure if it's there and somebody needs,
like Julius Ransel needs to step up,
or they need somebody else that's going to replace Julius Randall
to be that second option.
Julius Randall is supposed to be Scotty Pippet,
and I don't know if he's Scotty Pippet.
So, you know, if I'm phrasing the 90s, the 90s, those.
Yeah, they got DiVanchinzo missing a whole lot of shots, right?
He's probably like shooting 30% from three.
Then he's shooting about, I mean, the last game,
I'm not talking about the whole year,
the last game that I saw.
He's probably like four for 13, right?
So he's shooting poorly from the field.
And then the guard that I was talking about is Rob Dillingham.
Like, they selected him high.
Sometimes you got to give a player a shot.
He could definitely create.
He could definitely mix it up.
He could definitely get.
anywhere on the court really quickly.
And they used to have that in Mike Connolly, right?
So in Mike Connolly.
So they're missing that piece.
That's the piece they're missing.
A guard that can get to the basket and create.
And they, like you said, they already have it.
They just got to play them.
Okay.
So I want to get y'all's reaction to this viral clip
because there's a lot of different thoughts on it.
So basically, Cavs, Jalen Tyson, gave Donovan,
Mitchell, his props after they beat LeBron and the Lakers 1.29 to 99. So that was already like an emotional
game for LeBron. They had played a tribute video to him because people are thinking this could potentially
be LeBron's last time playing in Cleveland in his career because we don't know what's next for him.
Like that's what people are trying to figure out. So basically when the reporter was talking to Donovan
Mitchell, Caz player Jalen Tyson stepped in and he said, this is Donovan Mitchell city now.
When Mitchell comes back here, we're going to make sure everyone roots for him like they did for LeBron.
This is his stuff and this is his city.
So, Mace, how did you take his comments?
So what's your thoughts on it?
Do you see it as confidence, see his good thing, or do you see this arrogance?
I like that.
I like people doing that.
You know, they letting LeBron know, listen, this used to be a town.
This is Donovan Mitchell town now.
It's a good flex.
We know it's a lie, but it's a good lie, right?
It's a good lie.
Because I was looking at LeBron when they was giving a tribute.
I think, yeah, he was crying.
I was thinking, wow, what if LeBron goes back to Cleveland?
That was the first thing that went through my mind.
They're buttering LeBron up, pause to get them to come back.
Dan Gilbert, you got to watch Dan Gilbert.
Dan Gilbert said the get back is crazy.
He'll take LeBron back.
I really believe it with my whole heart.
That's all I was thinking.
But I like the fact that they were.
putting this good lie out there that Donovan Mitchell, this is your town now.
This is this.
Man, LeBron want to come back there 50 years old.
It'll be back LeBron's town.
I don't buy any of this, but it's a good lie.
It's a good lie.
Like Cash at Mafia.
L-O-L.
Somebody sat and quiet.
That's a young boy.
Now, nigger don't know cash out of mouth.
This is a great nigger sweating and all.
My nigger.
Yeah, listen, man.
I mean, that was, you know,
it's not often that maces on point the first three topics.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to look like I don't know what I'm doing
so you can shine.
When you're not here, that's what it is.
That's what it is.
Yo, I got a favor.
I got a slogan.
Do me a favor.
Don't do me no favors.
I'll be all right, man.
But, but yeah, yo, listen, man.
Listen, bro.
This is not Donovan.
Mitchell's town as much as they want to act like it is.
This is absolutely not Donovan Mitchell's town because you have to realize, you know,
and I'm going to be a little more specific for the people that live in Ohio.
LeBron is from Cleveland, even though he's from Akron, which is a, you know, a short drive.
You know, the next major city is Cleveland.
You grew up in Cleveland, practically.
No disrespect to Akron.
Of course, I don't want to them Akron things.
I'm not Cleveland.
just saying y'all partner in cities.
And not only that, your homeboy, the nigger won a chip for Cleveland.
No, it's not.
Darwin Mitchell's from New York.
Now, I can see if Donald Mitchell was in the New York jersey,
New York Knicks jersey, talking about this year's city.
It makes more sense he grew up there,
even though he's not from the city.
He grew up there.
He's from the same state, this, that third.
I understand when he's come from here,
yeah, we don't want to hear all that old shit.
We talked about a couple episodes ago
when they were like,
yo, go ahead with all the old shit, man.
We're here now playing for Cleveland
and it's our team there.
That's your team now,
but it's not your city.
If LeBron wants to come back,
like Mace just said,
tomorrow night,
they would get rid of you, homeboy.
Quick.
Maybe not Donovan Mitchell,
but she'll be out of it
if LeBron says, get out of it.
LeBron's going to sell tickets.
LeBron's going to bring money
to the city of Cleveland,
and he already has schools
and everything else.
I understand what niggas talking about.
I've been there before.
Yeah, with all that old shit
which y'all used to need.
Them days is over.
Unfortunately, it isn't over for LeBron.
He's still out here playing at a high level
at 41 years old.
So, no.
No, I like Donovan Mitchell, big fan of Diamond Mitchell.
It will not be a city.
It won't.
It's just not.
I'm sorry.
That's that.
Yeah, that whole, that whole video
made me feel like it's something behind it.
It's definitely something behind it.
I would not be surprised if LeBron ends up back in Cleveland.
I just, you know, I know the tread deadline is around the corner.
I don't want to get into that.
Not that they'll trade them, but there might be some Cleveland in this future.
I could just feel it by that.
That video said that to me.
Like, they really still love LeBron.
You could, you could see him going back.
I meant you could be D. Wade.
Yeah, I ain't going to lie.
There's a lot of reports also saying that he should finish his career in Cleveland
last couple days.
I didn't hear nothing about to trade that line.
But I was like, yo, you should go to Cleveland this last year, last year.
Next year should be, and they're already making trying to force his last year to be next year.
I think he's still playing good.
Look, we sit and talk about the Lakers, not today, just in general,
how they're not doing this and they're not doing that.
And what do they need to fix?
and JJ Reddick.
They're in fifth place in the east.
They're in fifth place.
I think that is a great place to be at.
In the West, in the West.
Pardon me, murder.
Absolutely.
Pardon me, absolutely.
In the West.
Think about this, the Grizzlies,
who was such a permanent team
in one time, it was like 14.
The clip is its bottom half.
The Golden State's the bottom half.
You have to think about this.
Let's think about the teams in front of the Lakers.
It's OKC, it's Houston,
it's San Antonio.
It's Denver.
These are all great teams, and then it's the Lakers.
Now, are they better than those four teams?
I don't think so, no.
And does not have to be done to get to them, be better than them four teams?
Absolutely.
But I think that they're doing good.
It's just that the Lakers is historically known for one-to-win championships,
and that's what you have to do when you get to the Lakers.
You have to want to win a championship.
But I don't think they're in a bad spot for the roster that they have right now.
Just some things need to be changed.
I think LeBron's playing great for a 41-year-old or not even 41-year-old.
I think he has a great number as if he was 32 years old, my personal opinion.
It's just that he's LeBron.
He's held to a higher standard than others.
And we'll see if the Lakers make something happen.
So some interesting news here, really, for the next couple topics that we got.
So PJ Washington accused his ex-girlfriend, Brittany Runner,
of threatening to have him served court papers during an NBA game.
So in an alleged email from runners' lawyer to Washington's attorney, he said there are currently
eight tickets in Section 102 immediately behind the visitor bench where Mr. Washington will be seated.
I plan on purchasing all eight tickets, which are going for the average price of over $2,000
to ensure that there are no problems with my process server being able to effectuate service.
Mace, after hearing that and just what's going on, even just the MAVs in general,
what's your thoughts on that?
That's ruthless. That's really ruthless.
And that's, it's heartbreaking because the man is in there working, you know, like the go ahead and do that as foul.
You know, I remember a lady served me at, I was performing at club live and somebody was like waving their hands, doing all of this, going crazy.
You know how you try to get one of the people adapt
that's in the front of the stage.
And he just handed me some papers.
I didn't take them, but I was just like, wow, that's crazy.
That's ruthless.
That's really ruthless when you'll go that far.
It's not like he's ducking it, you know,
but to try to embarrass him at his job,
that might mess up the child support.
So you've got to watch how you do that, you know?
That's the next thing.
You can buy all the tickets, but you got to accept the paper.
If he put his hands behind his back, you can't serve them unless you take the paper.
For people that don't know, you have to actually take the paper.
Somebody in front of you trying to serve your papers all you want.
If you don't take the papers, you haven't been served.
It's funny you said the club leadership mates.
One time, I actually got served.
And they caught me.
They caught me.
I took the papers because, you know,
I don't know if you remember growing up
how people used to, you know, when we be outside
and we walk in and they'll try and hand you the church pamphlet
or the God pamphlet.
And you'd be like, yeah, yeah.
And you'd be like, damn, you don't want to feel bad
for not taking it.
Like, you feel guilty and shit if you don't take it.
And they had the pamphlets,
and they sent it to me, and I looked at it.
And my name was on it.
I said, what kind of a church pit?
He said, I'm just doing my job and ran off.
I was like, yeah.
Damn.
Man, since we both got to serve him,
I said, yo,
Nick, you can't hear me nothing.
I'm not taking nothing from nobody
unless he got a president's face on it.
I don't want to hear nothing about it, man.
But look, man,
murder, murder, you, you, you shooting 100% tonight, man.
100% man, he's right, it's embarrassing.
Do this in somebody's job, it's crazy, man.
And not only, not only, listen, imagine,
let's just say you work at Amazon or electricity company.
Doing it in front of 30 people is embarrassing.
Doing it in front of 25,000 is crazy.
Broadcast.
Yeah, broadcast of millions.
It's like crazy.
So I can't speak on it really
because I don't know what point it is reached.
I don't know what's going on in their relationship.
But if it's got to this point,
it has to be really bad
because if I would have heard that,
I would have called like, yo, what are we doing?
Let's fix this shit down.
Nobody got time for niggins to be sitting behind the bench
keep trying to tap me on the shoulder, man,
and hand me some papers.
It's a lot.
I think it's crazy.
you know, even thinking of this subject
because, you know, she's really had the pressure on him for a while now.
So, you know, Britney Renner is tough.
She's tough.
I don't see how they do it.
And then just real quick before we go to break,
how do you guys feel about the Mavs as a whole
because they just had a lot of, of course, unfortunate injuries and things going on?
Like, do you guys realistically see Anthony Davis being traded?
Do you think they're just going to keep them?
Like, how do you guys feel about Cooper Flag?
Like, where are they going?
How do you feel about them as a whole?
I mean, we know they're not really going nowhere for real, but just their team, Mace.
I think all of this is like, like if you believe in karma, this would be calmer, right?
You wake up in the middle of the night, you trade Luca, sham leaves.
I mean, Anthony Davis get hurt.
Just follow the signs.
You get Clay Thompson.
he's not shooting his best.
I don't know if Kyrie gets hurt.
Nothing else could actually go bad in that building.
I think everything that possibly could have gone wrong did.
You got Anthony Edwards.
I mean, Anthony, you got...
Davis.
You got Kyrie getting hurt.
You got Anthony Davis getting hurt.
You got Clay not shooting well.
What else?
The only thing they got going kind of good is Cuba Flag.
And I think they put Cuba Flag at point guard.
So this is when you're trying to make sure that he works because you can't afford for him not to work.
I remember one play he was coming down against Wimby and Wimby was like, no way.
Not tonight.
And I just thought about it.
I said, oh, they put him at the one.
Kid is smart.
He's making sure that this guy performs because,
they gave up too much for them to be the guy to not perform well.
But I think when they get Kyrie back, it should be better.
And when they get Anthony Davis going, if they don't trade them,
that they could have something special.
But right now it's looking like a dog and pony show.
This is when people say, you know, a lot of times I don't put a lot of stake into it.
When people will be like, well, the ownership isn't good.
You know, this is what happens with ownership, this, and the third.
You know, like they blame James Dolan all the time.
Nicks aren't going to win until James Dolan isn't there.
And I'm just using the Nix because, you know, Nick fans always accuse James Dolan doing something wrong.
To me, James Dolan pays everybody.
I want Isaiah Thomas as a coach.
You get Isaiah Thomas.
You want Steph Marbury.
You want Carmelo Anthony.
You want Phil Jackson.
You get everybody you want it.
It just doesn't seem to work out.
And I think this is a case of ownership.
When Mark Cuban gave up the majority stake of ownership with Dallas Mavericks, everything went to shit.
He's not the majority owner.
He got his billions.
Congrats to him.
He still has ownership in the team, but he's not the one that makes the calls day to day.
This lady who's now the new owner, when she's into a lot of gambling and a lot of casinos, so on and so forth, she wanted to move the Mavericks to Las Vegas.
The NBA went and let her move the Mavericks to Las Vegas.
When they told her she can't move the Mavericks to Las Vegas,
she wanted to put casinos in the arena or some type of gambling shit in the arena,
and they said, no, you can't do that.
After this, she threw a fit.
Nico was the butt, you know, Nico was to me the person who took a lot of the hits
for the decisions that ownership wanted to make.
And I'm not saying that it was ownership that said get rid of Luca,
but if you're a smart owner,
you're not letting that happen.
I'm not giving the GM that much
power to be like,
yo, get rid of Luca.
That's somebody that's an owner
that's not paying attention
because they're more concerned with gambling
and how they made their billion dollars
as opposed to own the NBA team.
I think that they purchased the NBA team
to put gambling around it to make more money
and when that didn't go down right,
then they just didn't give a fuck no more
about what happened with the team
to the point where they even fired Nico,
like, shit, you're making us look crazy,
even though I don't think he made all them decisions solely.
And somebody like, Nico can't say anything like that
because once you say something like that,
another team doesn't want to hire,
you'd be like, oh, this thing might say something about us
if he ever leaves us.
A lot of players, pardon me, a lot of coaches
and to me GMs have their hands tied
when some foul shit go there
and they got to go somewhere else
because they don't want to look like they're talking shit
about their former boss.
Because when they get a new boss,
they don't want their new boys thinking that they'll say something.
But I think this is solely based upon ownership,
all the bad decisions that have been made
because when Mark Cuban was running his team.
Now, of course, we got injury to plays a factor, like May said.
But when Mark Cuban was running this team,
the Mavericks were always in the conversation.
They're not in the conversation.
Not right now.
Even though they got a lot going on,
I still got to give credit to Cooper Flagg.
And I just want to read this out for those who's,
saw the game last night because even though the Mavs still lost the Horn is 123 to
121, he did break the NBA teen record by having 49 points and 10 rebounds versus the hornet.
So it's like, you don't want to say it doesn't count for nothing because that's still
great stats for him, but it does suck that they're still coming out with losses when he's
putting up performances like that.
But of course, shout out to Cooper Flagg.
Okay.
We're going to go to break.
When we return, we will discuss Devin Booker's comments about the cartoon.
Kardashian curse. Don't go anywhere.
Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
Tonight, the Knicks will play the Blazers.
Underdog has Jalen Brunson at 26 and a half points.
Do you have a higher or lower Mace?
I'm going higher. I'm going higher.
Yeah, I'm going to agree with Mace.
Okay. McCall Bridges is at 15.5 points. Do you have my higher or lower cam?
Higher.
I got to go higher.
Okay.
And Shade and Shade and Shade and Shade.
Sharps at 22 and a half points.
Do you have my higher, lower mace?
I'm going to go with Camas on this.
Lower.
Okay.
That is set.
So I want to change my answer.
Okay.
I'm on Calabridges to lower.
Okay.
Trade deadline coming up.
He don't want to go no way.
You're going to stink it up next few games.
So the trade deadline is over.
He's not going to play good at all.
Numbers are lower.
with Michael Bridges, across the board.
And they could like, y'all don't want me.
Trust me, nobody wants me.
I'm going to know.
That was a good one right there.
I can see him doing that too.
Yeah, that's a good take.
That's a good thing to do for all you guys out there.
It just gave you the trade deadline hack.
Yeah.
Some game.
Okay.
Okay.
Make sure you out down on the underdog.
and you can make your picks too.
So Devin Booker had some comments towards Kendall Jenner over her Patriots prediction
for a Super Bowl ad.
She placed a million dollar bet on the Patriots to win while poking fun at the Kardashian curse.
She says, haven't you heard?
The internet says I'm cursed.
Any basketball player who dates me kind of hits a rough patch.
How else do you think I can afford all this?
Modeling?
So on the ad, Devin Booker commented, I bet a million the Seahawks.
a ring before you do.
She then commented how's the ankle
and he replied,
come rub it.
Mace, how do you feel about what
Devin Booker had to say to Kendall
Jenner? This is white boy
comedy at his finest, right?
I don't know how to take this because
he's talking to his girlfriend.
So he would know
if she's getting a ring, but I don't
know if he knows if New
England or the
Seahawks, which one of them are going to win?
But if he got the inside scoop, you know, it's a betting town now.
Everybody knows somebody that's throwing a game.
Not everybody, but, you know, it seemed like somebody's throwing a game in every sport is what I'm trying to say.
So if he knows something, maybe he's trying to give everybody the intel on what's going on.
But I don't know about that.
I think he's hit a rough patch since he's been with the, um, with the Kardashians.
So I don't know how to take this.
Really quick.
I really don't.
Really quick before you go, Kim.
Meese, why you say white boy comedy?
Why is it white boy comedy?
Because it's like you're making jokes of yourself.
Black people don't make jokes of they sell.
They take it serious when somebody's joking about them.
Well, white boys make fun of themselves.
You want to add to sound like you want to talk me?
I'm so confused.
You're saying white boys make fun of themselves, but I'm like,
he would have to be making fun of himself for not giving her a ring.
But that's not what he's doing.
And he's black.
So I'm confused.
That's the thing.
She turned them white.
I was like, are you calling Devin Booker white?
Yeah, yeah.
You thought he was white.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Killer just said this a while ago.
A girl told Killer this.
She said, listen, you don't even know.
I am your main joint.
Nigger, you're lost in this.
He is under the curse.
He doesn't even know it.
I had book up there with Colt.
I had book up there about to be the next Kobe,
the next mummer.
I think Stephen A. saw him the same way.
It's been a long time since we've had that conversation.
he's in the curse right now he doesn't even know he's a part of get out he's starring and get out
damn thoughts are they the guper still i don't think so
that's what i'm saying that's what max and i don't know you know i'll stay away from it
it's still lingering that's what i'm saying it's still lingering that's what i'm saying
I don't know they throwing shots, that's what I'm saying?
And he said, come rub it.
Who said he was talking about his ankle?
Yeah, that's what I heard, too.
Yeah, that's it.
I'm rubbing.
Everybody think it's about the ankle.
Inside joke.
It's like to rub my ankle.
That's the white boy comedy I'm talking about right there.
Come rub it.
said.
I don't know.
I didn't make too much of this.
It sounds like they still kind of like each other,
even if they're not together.
I don't know, because it's two ways to take it.
If you're together and you're flirting,
like in front of people or you're not together,
and he like, sure, first of all,
like, all right, let's just take that they're not together,
but maybe they're cool or whatever.
It's like, yo, okay, cool.
Every basketball player, the Kardashians mess with
or the Jenner's mess with
don't end up doing good.
And she says this.
And she knows Devin Booker
has not been doing good
or his ankle is hurt or anything like that.
So she's saying maybe I'm part of the curse.
And so therefore she says something about the game,
about the Patriots.
And then Devin Booker chimes in like,
yeah, she's trying to be slick.
And he's like, yeah, listen, she's trying to be slick.
I'm going to say something.
Right?
I'm going to give you, like, I give you an example, right?
This girl I used to mess with.
Not nobody, y'all know and all.
You know everybody.
Like, they know everybody I used to mess with.
This girl all I was messing with.
I put something like I need, I'm tired of a fat ass.
I need a girl that with some brains and beauty and not just fat ass.
Just telling you, that to me, the brains was in the ass.
Like, I had a real fat ass fetish.
time, like, I didn't see nothing else.
Not even her mind, what she talked about?
Who said I wanted to talk to her?
Wanted to talk.
I ain't say I wanted to talk to her.
I just said she out of fatty.
Now, this is years ago, Stan, I grew up.
Now I'm interested in your conversation.
You're right.
I need to be stimulated mentally, but I didn't really care
what you used to want to talk about.
But anyway, I said, I put this in the caption.
And somebody else, somebody that I used to deal with wrote in the comments,
Child, Please.
I haven't been dating them.
I hadn't been dealing with them for a while or whatever.
But they wrote, Child, Please.
Now's all the blogs is picking up.
Ball Alert, Hollywood Unlock, Shabring, all these players,
talking about, look with someone so-and-so said to camp.
Now,
Child, please.
Because I said I want to drink with beauty
and not just a fat-ass beauty and brains
and they were quote unquote
looked at as a smart person.
And they would, so when I said that,
they put in the comment, child, please.
In other words, that ain't what you really want, nigga.
That's basically.
All right, you're going to play with me on social media.
Then when I do what I do,
Can you take it too far?
I won't even tell you what games I started playing,
but Cam, you take it too far,
why you have to say all that?
Yo, if, if, if, if, if, if, if,
look, we, we don't mess with each other no more.
Why even comment under that to get to raise bait me?
This is before rage bait was even,
it was always there, but the phrase rage bait
wasn't used as frequently as it is used to day.
The rage bait me, and then I go too far.
This is what I'm saying.
sounds like, you know, for lack of better terms,
a pure white rage bait to make this point.
You know, niggins take it's something else.
You know what I'm saying?
Why even do all that?
You know what I'm saying?
Why say to this man or say publicly,
you know, when one of the Kardashians or Jennings,
we have a jinx of every basketball player
we mess with going down.
And then you know the nigga you fuck with.
has not been playing good the last couple years.
Not only that, it's injured.
So then when he say something, it's like,
yo, now you got to take it to the ring.
No, why would you say that, period?
You wanted him to say something.
So I don't know where their relationship is out.
That's why to me it's like I can't put my stock into it
because I don't know if they're together or not.
So what's interesting about this whole thing to me is like,
so they're trying to use it because like I said for a Super Bowl ad
and like even though Devin Booker commented under Michael Rubin's page,
everybody's like this is great marketing this is perfect this is like what the people need to see but
i'm in complete agrees with you because quite literally it's like you're you're saying it's this
but then people actually aren't playing so well so i don't like i feel like that's still a dis at yourself
but to half of society they think that this is like the greatest marketing tactic which it is
making people tune in i understand that but it's still a dis at that point but can what i
Oh, go ahead, Mace, before I ask my follow-up question because it sounds like-
Yeah, Statt, it's the difference between blacks and whites, right?
So you're getting off the plane, stat, and you're getting your luggage off the plane,
and a guy is rushing to his next flight, and you get your luggage and you get off before him,
and then while you get off, he tells you, thank you for helping people that have to catch their flight.
And you go, you're welcome, right?
He's basically saying you didn't help him, but it doesn't make sense to black people.
So for you to say you're welcome back to him, he feels even more insulted because his joke didn't go over well.
Happens to me all the time.
The guy asks me that.
He said, thank you for helping me out.
I told him you're welcome and kept going.
I don't have time for it.
Yeah, you don't have to.
Yeah, he's trying to be funny.
it doesn't it doesn't translate for a lot of people
Cam what I was gonna ask you before we move on
and make sure you can answer to if you have an answer to this
what would it take for you to do an ad with your ex
hmm which I don't I'm not I don't want you to answer with us
like I don't know your ex is yeah
see that's the thing right
this is the whole shit right this is how we're sure
No, this is how I go murder for me, for me, period.
I don't be breaking up on bad terms.
I don't want to hate nobody.
But the problem is, you know, the problem is this.
I don't know if you or murder scene, the last talk with Flea,
and one of my ex-joints was up there.
I don't even consider it.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, it's phenomenal.
I don't even consider an ex-slash-you-old.
Thank you, murder.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot coming from you because I know you do consultation.
and therapy and all that.
So I appreciate you seeing me, you know, mature
and handle it the best way I can handle.
I was proud.
I was actually really proud.
Thank you, brother.
Cameron, I was really proud.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
And none of my relationships on a bad note.
It's just that, you know what it is, that?
I don't know if I said it on this show,
if I said it to somebody else,
And I don't know if you know this or not,
but I'll tell you even if you don't know,
girls don't leave me.
I leave them.
Serious.
I'm not saying a girl can't leave me.
I'm not saying that I'm all that or anything like that.
What's the racket, Gila?
What's the record?
Yeah.
Last time I left the girl left me.
No.
You leave to them leaving.
No, last time a girl left me in second grade,
I put gum in her head.
Girl ain't leave me since.
I don't know many girls between,
been between now and third grade,
but however many between then,
like, girl ain't leave me since second grade.
You know, I'm fun.
I'm cool.
You hang out with us, my niggas is fun.
We hang out like, it's hard to leave, man.
Listen, I had a friend of mine in my house this week.
He bought a girl over, she ain't want to leave.
I'm just telling you, like, we mad fun.
And then sometimes it doesn't work out.
And it doesn't work out for me.
And then when I stop calling, I try and do it politely.
I weed my way away.
It's hard.
And I'm not being disrespectful to anybody that I used to deal with.
I'm just saying that for me, I don't mind doing none of my exes.
I just, they don't like me.
They don't hate it.
They don't like me.
I'm one of my girlfriends told me I broke her wall.
She's like, and she's like, yeah, you only got no friends.
Like when I'm beefing publicly with people I used to do business with,
that's why you got no friends.
I got money.
My friends is dead.
My friends are dead.
You know, and I started beefing with niggas and dips at me and Mace not speaking.
That's why you ain't got no friends.
I got money.
My friends is dead.
So the answer to that, I don't have a problem doing anything with anybody.
They just be having an attitude with me, and I don't have a problem with anybody.
I'm cool with everybody, you know.
So I don't know.
Like, I don't know what the price point would be for them or whatever.
But I could see them walking on set talking about it.
I'd be like, hey, with something like Cameron.
They think they all, Shook hate when my people call me Cameron.
Shook hate that shit.
She said he'd be like, yo, why the fuck they think they could call you Cameron?
You never got.
Why?
You don't know this.
Can I say so?
You know, it's funny.
And so many people do this, especially women, like in the world, like people might call you
a kiddle, can whatever.
He started off with killer.
That's what I'm saying, though.
They met him as killers.
But that's what I'm saying.
As soon as there's an exchange, I promise you,
like, someone be like, oh, yeah, like,
Killers my favorite rapper.
You mean Cameron?
Are you talking about Cameron?
No, they argue with him to go.
Government.
Cameron, stop playing me.
Cameron, you're hungry?
What the fuck?
I can hear that shit.
Like, yo, you don't know this nigga.
Yo, his name is Killer.
Fuck.
She made me mad now.
Like, his name is fucking killer.
Yeah.
And so, but the answer to your question,
I don't, I'm not opposed.
I don't have any problems with.
I would prefer to be friends.
I get jealous when I see niggas be cool with their ex-girlfriend.
I'd be like, how'd that turn out for y'all,
I think it's to be cool.
I want to be cool with everybody.
I ain't got no problem with nobody.
Stephon Diggs, like you say.
Yeah, yeah.
You say, how do you do that?
Yeah, we do a case study on Stefan Diggs, man.
That's hilarious.
So you're not opposed to you.
I mean, most times the child support is high.
If the child support is high,
they're probably still good friends.
you don't have child support.
That's why you don't have that.
Mace, prior to you being married,
was there any females mad at you when you stopped dealing with them
or you was like before you was married,
was you all cool with everybody that you kind of used to deal with?
I never really dated like that, killer.
I told you to stop dating.
I mean, Mace, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what I can say or what I can't say.
like.
It's fun that.
You moonwalked out of there.
I'm just going to say all right.
I don't know.
I don't know what we called
what we were doing that.
All the girls wanted you, May.
All the girls wanted you, man.
Sometimes people think, sometimes people thought
we were dating, but I didn't consider us
But she could have thought that.
I can see how I gave her that, them vibe.
And that's what I'm talking about.
And that's what I'm talking about.
I didn't want to be rude with certain females,
but, you know.
You walk in a girl houses, your picture on the wall, you ain't not.
Yeah, I'm just saying, no, I'm talking about, like,
that's a great point to, like, Mason said.
A girl told me one time recently, like,
you know, when we were dealing with each other,
I wasn't having sex with anyone else.
I'm like, you wasn't?
That's crazy.
Because I was.
Did you say that or did you internally think that?
No, I told her that straight up.
Because we don't mess with each other no more,
but I told her straight up.
I'm like, yeah, that's why she's like,
oh, you thought I did?
I said, I didn't really put much thought into it
because I didn't care.
Like, you know, I told a girl recently
because she started getting, like,
and it's all former people.
I don't know why everybody wants to come back and basically, you know,
like have some type of therapy and tell me how they used to feel and this down to third.
And this girl was getting sassy with me about, Cam, you know this, this,
this, that's down to third.
And I really didn't want to say that too.
I promise you I did.
But I had to tell her, like, yo, you were my fourth or fifth option.
She would never my go-to.
Like, I don't know where you come across asking me this, thought you could ask me questions,
so on and so forth.
And I don't want to be rude.
Girls would be like, see, he's an asshole.
He's a, they say, that.
But I'm being honest.
A lot of y'all are four-for-fifth options.
Y'all just, a nigga ain't going to tell you that.
You know what I'm saying?
Back of the closet.
In the shorty pocket.
Yeah, nigg, nigg, not going to tell you that, man.
You should be honest.
Somebody's telling you this shit.
Hey, man, just telling you, man.
Four-five.
The four-file.
It's the four-file, yeah.
That late night drive.
Yeah, but that's a great point, man.
You know, like you said, that's a really good point because, you know,
I say this to people a lot.
And that's kind of what you just said as far as interpreting when somebody might
thought you was dating.
Because sometimes that's one of my slogans when somebody's not uncomprehending when I'm saying
that.
And I'm not just talking about male or female.
What I say in what you understand is two different things.
I can't help if you're not comprehending.
I'm saying.
The situation you're telling me about killer, she told me she's leaving.
It was one o'clock.
I told her good because I got a two o'clock.
That's the nigga I grew up with it.
Whoa.
That was crazy, right?
Yeah, mate.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, man, I dig it.
I miss that.
Now we get 30%.
Okay.
So.
I don't imagine what's that thinking right now.
I don't even like at this point,
am I shocked?
No.
But am I still surprised?
Yeah.
That fourth and fifth action.
Yeah, you gotta tell her the truth.
Yeah.
Yo, listen, I know.
I didn't tell her that at the time,
but she's bringing back, you know,
I haven't spoke to her.
I mean, dealt with her like that in like eight, nine years
because I don't want to be rude.
You know, I'm not that rude on the dime
unless you push me there.
But she's questioning me like,
we dated last week.
And I'm like, yo, that's how Mason just said.
That's why I brought the remembrance.
But somebody might have thought we was dating,
but I can't help if that's what you thought.
You know what I'm saying?
And let me tell you something.
I think I started on this show too.
And if I didn't, I haven't said in a while.
So I remind everybody out there.
We're not in a generation where somebody says,
yo, you want to be my girlfriend or you my boyfriend?
You just end up in relationships.
It ain't like, you know, back in the age like, you.
I'll let you.
Well, maybe that's back.
Maybe he's back.
Yeah, maybe they brought it back.
Maybe they brought it back.
Because I remember before, when I was young,
like my mother in them age,
they used to be like, you want to go steady?
It was so steady.
Are we serious?
Yeah, are we getting serious?
This time and third.
So anyway, I was just telling you how the girl was like,
I wasn't messing with nobody else.
I didn't know that because we didn't have that conversation.
So I'm just saying I don't want to get stat.
You can tell me what's going on today.
But to me, it wasn't like, yo, in high school, yeah, absolutely.
You're my girl, you're my girl, that's my girl, that's my shortest day.
Maybe because me and Mace would start doing music, we never, I can't speak for ever.
I never really had to, yo, you're my girl, you're going to be my girl, this that, that.
I never, it just, I started fucking with you.
I started fuck with you.
Now, the way the girl proceeded in her brain that we were together was if I went raw.
She's like, yo, you go raw.
together. But she tell you that after you go raw.
She don't tell you this before you go raw.
That's how they say, you're going to go raw on me and we're not together.
Now, the real way relationship starts are like this.
And I'm giving information for everybody you don't know.
The way the real relationship starts is like this.
When y'all just being cool or dating and everything else,
and then they asked you,
you know, why you wasn't picking your phone up
and you get scared.
You'd be like, no, I was out.
No, I was with the club.
I was there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I called you, you know,
I called you six times, right?
You didn't pick up the phone.
You must have been with another bitch.
No, I wasn't with no bitch.
Yo, I asked my mother.
You know, I asked my mother.
You know, now you're in a relationship.
You don't even know you in a relationship
because you answer it.
You got, you just got scared and panic.
Biss to do that shit to me,
yo, Ken, you wasn't picking the phone up where you was at.
I was like, bitch, you're crazy.
What you did yesterday?
I just ignore the whole shit because I'm not feeding it.
I'm not feeding.
Once you answer that, they got you.
They got you.
Once you sit there and answer because you scared, you panic,
you're not even thinking that you panic.
Then what happened is you do it to them,
and they want you to do it to them.
Yo, fuck is you at.
Give me your phone.
Yo, yo, you was with niggas last night?
Yeah, that nigga crazy.
He loved me.
Now you're in a relationship.
You don't even know it.
That's how it starts.
You're serious at that point.
At that point, now you're serious at that point.
Because now she questioned you,
and because she questioned you,
you feel you could question her,
and now you're all together.
That's how we go.
That's how you're doing, right?
Yeah, she actually...
Psycho men.
Yeah, that's really good.
No, I like that right.
Yo, yo.
It's telling me...
That's how you got your relationship?
Yeah, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
What is happening?
Yeah, like this.
What is this turn to love therapy?
Like, that's all this.
I like how you broke that one down, you know what I mean?
That little pinning mold.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And your way out, an easy,
an easy, funny way out, stat is you just tell them,
yo, you could fart around me.
We ain't that serious.
Oh shit, babe.
See,
Yo.
Y'all are wired different.
Y'all are wired completely different.
Y'all got that?
I'm so good on that.
Yo, I swear to God, I ain't here that I'm murder.
You kept that for yourself.
That's what I used to tell him.
You can find around me.
We ain't have to hear yourself.
I'm going to give my two cents because y'all are like, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, no.
Like, I completely disagree with y'all.
I think that it's like 50-50.
Like there's half of women who are like, we know what it is.
And then there's half of the women who are like, tell me what it is.
I think in different situations and different careers and occupations,
that's where that matters because what you explain to me is stressful.
I don't want to walk around having to figure out like, are we?
Are we not?
That kind of thing.
No, because listen and hear me out, a lot of women, and this is coming from past experiences,
friends that I know that are dating in the game, whatever you want to call it,
a lot of the times they're not explicitly asking or having the expectation of asking,
is this my man?
Because they know that if they ask, that man's going to leave because he doesn't want to
make that commitment. That's half the women. The other half of the women, me, I like to have,
I like to be told, okay? I like to know what it is. I don't need the, let's just figure it out
over time and that's just too much room for error, too much room for trouble, problems, other
women, I don't got time for that. I think women nowadays should be asked and it's okay to want
to be asked. Now, if you're cool at the other end where you're just like, we just spend all this
time together, we've seen each other all the time.
We're doing this, we doing that.
We know what it is.
That's cool.
That's a young shit.
No, it's not because I know.
You talk about that's young, but like that's what I'm seeing a lot of.
All of my friends that are relationships to have been asked.
And that works for some people.
A nigga asked them like, we're in a relationship?
Like, you would ask, will you be my girlfriend?
Nah, no, no, no, no.
Yes, that's like.
I don't know no real nigga.
Young, but that's like traditional.
No, traditional.
We hang out, we fuck it and all that shit.
You start screaming at me.
No, it's not.
Oh, you my bitch.
Like Kim said,
don't you start panicking?
No, that's stressful.
No, see, that's stressful.
That is so stressful and it's not worth it.
Like, even like, I'm the type of person that still believes, even for Valentine's,
like, I think you should ask somebody to be your Valentine's.
I don't think that you should just be like, we're Valentine's.
Like, I think you should ask.
What?
What?
I'm clearly not from New York.
That's what I'm saying, but that's what I'm saying.
If nobody got time to be, yo, you might.
my valet, you want to bring a heart?
How you don't got time if you spending time with that person all the time?
You have time to ask a simple question.
I don't know.
That's easy.
You need your backcountry.
You can do that with anybody.
The thing about it is that which you're saying it's correct.
You're absolutely correct.
You should ask if you want to know.
But you want to know.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm trying to say.
A lot of times you ain't going to hear the answer.
That's what I'm saying though.
Like I'm not like dumb because also I know it's like let me not ask because the
moment I asked, shit gonna start changing up,
my flights ain't gonna get booked.
Let me tell you,
I'm gonna say that's right.
That's possible.
No, that's a fact.
Let me tell you, I'm gonna tell you,
no, no, it's right.
Like, I'll tell you another story, murder.
Real quick, it's that.
So this chick, I'm going to see her every night.
I'm going to see every night.
Probably for a month and a hour straight.
And then she called me and say,
what time you come at home?
coming home. I'm not going back no more.
It's not my home.
You asked the wrong question.
Don't put me under the gun like that.
Yeah.
Yeah. You say the wrong thing.
You got...
Yeah.
Cut.
When am I coming home?
Yeah.
I'll show you better.
I'll tell you.
Yeah, that's my...
Once you say that, I'm going to my real house because you think I live here.
I know I've been here 62 days straight.
Don't others ask me when I'm coming home.
We are having fun.
But I totally agree with you.
I think if you want to have clarity and not blur of lines, absolutely.
You got to ask, but you have to realize also this also.
that and not saying, you have heard of all,
you have great parents who've raised well,
your morals are great, everything else.
On top of that, you're a beautiful black smart girl.
Thanks.
And not only that, you're somebody as a celebrity.
You can tell niggas to tell you what it is what it is.
A random chick can't just be telling the nigger
to be telling them, yo, what's it going to be?
Not you?
Because she's lying.
So she got that.
I shook the daddy on the side.
Somebody was here paying these bills before I came, like,
okay, bought you something.
But see, that's why I'm like...
No, I'm saying, like, Staten, everybody's lying.
What I'm trying to say is this.
I'm not saying you would...
Not to cut you up more,
I want you to try them into murder.
Not to cut you up.
I'm not saying you would go for it, Statt.
But you got leverage, niggas, like, I don't want to fuck up with Stats.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Murder, guy.
You just going to say something.
I didn't know, right?
Oh, no.
I was saying, when she...
When she already went.
there's like the ball is no longer in a court that's the that's the real thing so
i don't think she got leverage at that point what point are you talking about
repart or like like like once you like like you like you already having fun with her now
she can't she can't put her foot down after her feet wearing down you know what i'm saying
when you put your foot down it got to be from the beginning if you just having fun then
And when you try to switch up, it switches the fun if you're, if you're having fun.
I'm going to what Kim said, too.
Like, you're a celebrity.
A nigga ain't going to fuck up.
He's going to eat that pussy all day.
He's going to crawl.
No, they mess up with celebrities too now.
It don't matter.
The bum niggas get the celebrity bitches.
Like, I tell you.
I just think that you have to lay down the expectations of what you want,
depending on the type of person that you are.
If it works, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
Because I also understand where y'all are coming from because your group guys are saying,
I don't want somebody calling me asking me where I'm at,
because you didn't sign up for those expectations from the jump.
But I just think just be clear about what you want.
But see, see, that's why, like, everybody's making great points up here.
That's why this conversation is going a little long.
I think it's great what everybody said.
But you have to realize this, too.
We're just, God bless all of us in this room for being in the situation we are.
If I'm fucked up with no job and bitch say get home, I got to get home.
Yeah.
You better.
Before you.
When I got kicked out of college, it was rough, man.
That in between my record deal and getting kicked out of college,
you know how many times I had to sleep in the bitch house
and I didn't want to be there?
Like, God damn, man.
I always had, don't get it wrong.
I live in my grandmother, but I couldn't, you know,
I was horny.
I couldn't do what I wanted to do over there.
You know what I'm saying?
When blood parents was gone, then we was good, you know what I'm saying?
But it's been plenty of nights.
I've been told, get in here before I go to sleep.
You're a boy toy toy.
The celebrity girl, too, she could be a psychopath and very controlling too.
Like, you go out to dinner, she might tell you, yo.
Yo, listen, man.
Why you eat? Why are you eating with your hands?
Listen, Holly Berry can't keep a nigger.
Yeah, close your mouth while you're chewing.
Yeah, like I like to dig my hand in the chicken when he's like, you're telling me,
take the knife at the tuck.
Yeah, I know we go out to a restaurant should get mad when that girl
like for that hot water to silverware.
You don't like that shit.
You got no fucking hot water in the, like, you don't eat that chicken wing.
Your hands is crazy.
Like, I would be like.
See, it's what I'm talking about.
You ain't going to tell me I can't grab a wing.
You can do whatever you want.
Yeah, and I'm eating right in front of you.
You don't mean we're going to be there together the next time.
That will change.
See, that's what I'm trying to say, see?
Some niggas can't deal with that shit.
Like, don't get you had somebody in this.
Because you're going to call me.
Because you're going to think about it.
This thing that really ain't through fucking wings.
It ain't cold a bit.
I'm not chasing you.
Your goal is to make a lasting reaction.
Everybody got different impressions.
I don't know.
So if you like that, maybe love it.
I'll be myself.
Like, like I can say, like,
Some girls that take advantage of them situation, like, yo, tuck your shirt in.
No, bitch, no, not tuck in my shirt in, like, at all.
Like, it's not going to happen.
Tuck your shirt and she told you tuck your shirt in.
No, nobody took, I'm trying to say.
Examples.
Yeah, it's simple.
Like, it's so psycho.
It's so, I'm telling you, don't little celebrity want to be, them coke ads.
They'd be like crazy sometimes.
Tucker your shirt in is so psycho.
So crazy.
With your hands.
Okay.
Hey, you see how you look at?
So Nick can't eat with them hands at dinner?
That would be crazy.
Like, and I get the ick, like, I'm looking at you crazy.
Hold on, so you're talking to Nick can't pick, you know, grab a little son.
If we have a private dinner space and we're not around people.
No, because I'm going to be looking at you, like, why you even, and you didn't even wash your hands, I bet.
So, so, so, so, hot.
So we eat the lip, child.
You can grab it by the lip.
You want me to do all this.
You can cut it.
Oh, that's why he got the bone right there.
If you wash your hands, this could be discussed.
You know what's funny?
I'll just tell you about the last story.
Y'all got feelings arguing.
So I eat my lamb chops with my motherfucking hands once it get down to,
I eat it with the, I cut it with the knife, but once again, I can't get that knife.
I, I, I, I, I remember we were in a restaurant in Hank's, actually.
And I was trying to be, first time I went down, I was trying to get every piece.
Niggins, the way they said, pick that shit up.
I said, all right.
I said, I'm trying.
That's what I wanted to do.
That's what I've been waiting in here anyway.
So I'm, I eat my lamp chops, whatever.
So I'm with a girl.
And this girl, so we get back to the crib,
and this girl's kind of acting boozy with Shug.
But she was with me.
This wasn't Hanks.
This was another restaurant.
And she acting boozy with me.
I mean, Parmy was Shug.
Yeah.
And so they get...
Wash your hands.
No, no, I didn't talk about that.
So I'm, I'm, um...
I said, we just finished eating.
So when we get back to the house,
Hans Shug, and it's an argument.
Now, mind you, sugar, on the way home,
sugar's...
That's what she said, tell Shug, wash your hands.
Yeah, that's matter of fact,
now I'm remembering.
Clean this to that third.
So Shug, like, wash my hands.
Now, on the way back home, driving,
Sugar's driving.
I'm in the backseat making out with her.
and I'm finger popping her
and she squirt all over Shook
in the front seat
and everything from the back seat
sorry if this TMI
that's too much information
but I'm getting to a point
so then when she get to the crib
and tell Shug wash your hands and all that
he said you just had lamb tops in your pussy
you didn't care about that
nucker washing this thing
yeah you roll on my head
niggins this fucking lamb chopped
your pussy
Oh, I just watch the head
You got all types of lambsop juice
All in your shit
Back in there
Fucking A1 sauce all in that shit
Fucking
That tirit
Shit hit my arm
I'm driving
You want me to wash my head
You don't take your fucking
Fucking
Lamb chopped pussy pinking
That's what I'm trying to say
Myrater
I just don't know
Now
Now if she was cool
give like not your boogie
she'd be chib because the lamp chop finger would be cool
like
lamb chop finger
my bad I didn't want to get too graphic
but that's what's funny man
had to get to a point next
episode I need the New York
version definition
of boogie because y'all use it a lot
in different ways and we'll circle back
because we seen this was an extended
conversation we all had a lot to say so we'll
continue it made a good point
yeah we'll continue it at so much
I think Mace weren't which you could fart around me.
I'm going to talk to that.
Leave it at that.
But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today.
Thank you all for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.
