IT IS WHAT IT IS - PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE JAGUARS, THE 49ERS QB DILEMMA & A STORY ABOUT GOVERNMENT CHEESE!

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, the Jaguars move to 4-1 after big win over The TITLE TOWN Chiefs 31-28, is it time to start respecting the Jacksonville Jaguars. What's good with the Ravens and can they stay afloat until Lamar Jackson comes back?! Then, the 49ers are at 4-1 but are we believing in San Francisco this year and Killa says that coach Kyle Shanahan might have a QB dilemma on his hands if Mac Jones keeps ballin'. Lastly, we talk some NBA offseason headlines for the Warriors, Suns and Pelicans and a hilarious story about government cheese from Mase & Cam'ron Intro (0:00) Jaguars 31-28 Over Titletown (2:00) Ravens Identity (13:00) 49ers QB Dilemma (24:15) Underdog Picks (30:45) NBA Offseason Headlines (32:00) Trae Young vs. Pat Bev (51:30) Government Cheese (57:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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lock in your bonus and start playing today with code it is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. Killer was good, man. How are you doing, man? Chilling, man. It's a lot going on, man. What's going on now? I don't know. It's a lot of nothing going on, actually. A lot of nothing going on.

Okay, well, we're going to start with your team that I think is your team still. I'm not really sure where you stand because it seems to change every week. This does not change. Okay, well, we'll see if you still stand by this team because the Jaguars pulled up a 31 to 28 win versus the Chiefs. So the Jaguars are actually tied with the Colts for first in the AFC South. So, Mace, are you more impressed by the Jaguars win

or more disappointed with the Chief's loss? I mean, this is a bittersweet moment. Pause for a lot of reasons because, you know, this is title town. This is Title Town on the move, but then when you think about it, this is hometown. You know, this is homegrown. Pause. I can't really be upset when you lose to the home team, you know.

I don't even count this as a loss. So I see you trying to bring this my way because it's the Chiefs, but this is Jacksonville. You know, I'm born in Jacksonville, right? You don't want to talk about it? I don't know where I stand. You don't know where you stand? You say you're born in Jacksonville, but you rep the Chiefs, and then the other day you were talking about you was been to go with the eagles too no i was i just said that because

cam you know he made it his team so i was i was trying to troll this team but i when you think about this this game right i think besides that real that pick they would win this game you know i don't think i don't think this is something that that that was just you don't want to lose the jacksonville give it give it take but i don't think they played that horrible i think that this was one of those games they thought they won but that pick was just it's just like plays like that that just break your heart when you think you're about to get a touchdown and somebody get the pick six and take it all the way back to the house that's just it's just really heartbreaking hold on so you're on the show what did i say mace would say about this game about the chief's loser

you live he's from jacksonville oh okay thank you I said this two hours ago. Thank you. I just wanted to let you know I was right. Thank you, brother. Hit you back. I told sending this two hours ago. I said, all are you going to do is say he's from Jacksonville.

I already knew this two hours ago. Well, it's that why you asked me this? No, she didn't know. I said, I knew it in my brain. I know this, Nick. I say, oh, he's going to do it, say he's from Jacksonville. I already noticed. She's back under the 500, same record is Cincinnati.

Hello. Nice to see y'all, man. Hello. And we don't have our starting quarterback. Oh, man. But look, I think this was really outstanding game. What I'm more surprised about is the penalties. The Chiefs actually, it was, first of all, the Chiefs had some penalties that didn't get caught on them.

They had a lot of penalties that did get caught on them. But I was very shocked at the fact that the Chiefs were getting called for penalties, especially on the that last drive on the way down the field, the Trevor Lawrence did an amazing job as well. But that drive he led down the field, it was two crucial penalties, especially at the goal line or inside the five-yard line. And I was like, wow, the rest are really motherfucking calling penalties against the cheese because it looked like it was going out the way. It looked like Patrick Mahomes was going to do Patrick Mahones shit, bring them back, and then

it's going to win by a field goal. But one thing that happened also was this. after Kansas City went up by three points the fucking kicker kicked it out of bounds and then the Jaguars get to start the 40-yard line starting the 40-yard line with a minute and 45 seconds left and I can't front

Trevor Lawrence looked like he was worth the $275 million that he signed for also when he did he did now you believe in travel again did you see the last drive off the field or do you on the chat did you see what happened No, I'm just asking you, are you now a believer?

I didn't say I'm a believer. I seen him running niggas up the floor last night against Patrick Mahomes, the great Patrick Mahomes. The Patrick Mahomes is doing great shit. I ain't going to lie. I was talking to he's scrambling. I thought he was down. He did some amazing shit.

But that's the way it goes. If your quarterback leads you up the field for a winning drive, yeah, he looked good. And not only that, the Jaguars are four and one. They look good this season. to Travis Hunter, too. Travis Hunter, he made the over. It was 27 yards last night.

What did he go for 67? 64, yeah, 64 yards. Underdog, Co-CAM is back. This is what I was trying to tell you. But not just on offense, he also played really good on defense. And, you know, that was a big issue for him coming into the NFL. Could he play both sides of the ball? Can he play offense?

Can he play defense? He sure himself did it yesterday. Definitely interrupted a couple of Patrick Mahomes. deep bombs that he was trying to throw when he's trying to lead the chiefs to come back. So Travis Hunter looked amazing on offense and amazing on defense. And I'm not going to go as far as Mason's right.

I'm not saying Trevor is Lord. Pardon me, Trevor Lawrence arrived, but he definitely won last night. And that's one of them signature wins to build your confidence up to be like, okay, cool. I had a leading drive down the field under two minutes to beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

And you know what you'll just say, Kansas City Chiefs. you might say, Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, Kansas City Chiefs. So I do want to give my hats off Jacksonville because not just giving it to them. It was a good game. If you watch the game, it was a really, really entertaining game to watch, man.

Yeah, and I'm going to take a page out of Michael Irvin's book, you know. This is one of those games you lose, but it was a victory, you know. I'm going to take this out of victory. Because if he doesn't throw that big six, we win. So I got to take a page out of Michael's Irvin book. We're the one by like four. So I don't look at this as that much of a – it was a freak accident, you know? Just the interception.

Well, what quarter did that happen in? What quarter did that happen in? I think it was like the third quarter. You had a whole quarter and a half to win the game. Actually, you took the lead after that interception. I know, but that's – I'm just doing numbers. You know, Cam. I only go by numbers, you know, you take away that seven, we win by at least four points.

Yeah, let's do numbers. I don't think the Kansas City City Chiefs are ever lost when they're up 14 points. They let them come back, a 21-0 run by the Jacksonville Jaguars, and not only that, they end up in the game, but I'm not mad at the Mike or everything thing. If that's what we're doing this season up here, it's a lot of that going on. It's an anomaly and everything else. Niggas is so low vibration. I figure, you know,

ain't no need of me being too high, you know. I hear you, but at end of the day, Kansas City Chiefs are two and three sort of Cincinnati Bengals. And we don't even have Joe Burrow. I don't know what Kansas City excuses. They ain't have Pacheco. Like, Joe Burrow Pacheco. Like, it's crazy.

But I'm happy for Jacksonville because they've been struggling for a long time and it looked like they're on the way to do something. The two teams are surprised at me this far. is the Indianapolis Colts and the Jacksonville Jaguars so far. Big surprise. I'm giving all this credit to Travis Hunter. Why? Because I feel like he's making that team better.

It's something about when you get people on the team that really want to play. And, you know, he's married. He's focused. So shout out to Travis Hunter. Very to focus. I'll add, actually, I give a lot of credit to Trevor Lawrence because I feel like the team is a whole. First of all, they capitalize a lot of.

lot off of their mistakes. And even towards the end of fourth quarter, the score was tied. So like the Chiefs really could have honed it in at that point, but we saw that last play where Trevor Lawrence literally tripped off of their center and he was still able to go to the end zone and score a touchdown. For his stats, basically for the whole game, he had 18 and 25 passes for 221 yards, one touchdown, one interception, but also led Jacksonville with 54 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns on 10 carries. So yes, Travis Hunter also makes a big impact. And Travis Etienne Jr. A lot of their other players,

but Trevor Lawrence definitely sealed this game for them. And the Chiefs, I don't know what they're going to do. That's a good point because his center stepped on his foot. He's a still got in the end zone. But that was great points to that, like, yeah, they look really good. And, you know, Patrick Mahond was 318, so that's why I'm not worried. The numbers are still high. According to you, let's go back to numbers.

The first quarterback with 225 yards wins the game. Trevor Lawrence didn't have 2005 yards. it's home cam i understand i'm just the home thing this is the home thing we got to mark all this up to home so i want to ask you this now that you say that about the chiefs because you're still giving patrick from holmes's credit and i don't think that he should be discredited but do you still have faith in the chiefs at this point or is that starting to dwindle away after seeing how they've been playing this season so far to dwindle yeah um i mean it was back last week but i don't know about this week. I'm trying to stay faithful. But it's a home team. So it's like kind of weird to think about it.

It's almost like when you see somebody that is a great, but they lost to somebody you know, you feel like it's justifiable. You're not as hurt as if they lost to somebody else. Yeah, I think that I'm going to still give Kansas City definitely not counting on mouth. Just because of division, I was sitting there saying that the charges look like this year, they could take the division, but they're not consistent to me. I like Harbaugh a lot. You know, I'm a big Justin Herbert friend, but it's like something about them that says it spells inconsistencies for me.

Denver is a team that looks like maybe in a year or two. They may get to achieve some problems, but I don't think it's this year. You know, Sean Payton, great coach. Bo Neck's second year in the league. Looked really decent last year. It looked like he's getting even better this year. but I don't think they're ready to overthrow the chiefs. Only team in that division, I would have said the charges,

but the last couple weeks the charges have been scaring me as far as their inconsistency. So no, I'm definitely not counting out the Kansas City Chiefs just on the division alone. Yeah, but I do believe they're starting to show, not just wearing tear, but they're trying, they're starting to show like, you know when a team, I don't know which team that was,

maybe it was like the Cleveland Cavaliers when they had LeBron or one of those teams that felt like they could they could do just enough Golden State just to get in the playoffs and then when they get the playoffs they're going to turn it on I think when teams play like that it just never works out that's what I'm kind of sensing from the Kansas City Chiefs and I want to I want to stay you know faithful to them but that's what they're starting to show like we got the cachet we know what to do when the time comes but I don't think you develop a kind of bad habit and a bad rhythm, and then it turns out well.

It just never works that way. Okay, so now we're going to go back to some of Sunday nights football games. So the Texans beat the Ravens 44 to 10. So, Mace, do you think for Baltimore, can Cooper Rush ever be the answer as long as Lamar Jackson is out with his injury? No, no.

I'm not going to go for that. I'm not going to follow the bandwagon or what Cam did with Browning and then turn around and we're out here looking crazy. So I think it's over for Baltimore. I hate to say it. This is a team that I knew they always underachieve, but something about now is like they're really underachieving. And I don't think it's going to be a turnaround no time soon.

I think this is going to be one of those seasons where they just have to start back over next year. I don't see them getting to. even nine games I don't see them winning nine games yeah as far as the game was concerned on Sunday

well answer the question no I don't think he's the answer for Baltimore Baltimore has lost their identity on defense and over the years that's what we've known Baltimore for

for their defense over the years and if you're letting people you know it's one thing having Lamar Jackson not playing and it's another thing letting niggas score 40 on you. The last

four games, they've scored 30 or more points. The team's Baltimore are playing and scored 30 more points on Baltimore. Now Baltimore had a bunch of injuries. You got to think about this. They have four pro bowl players that wasn't playing. So we're not just talking about

excuse me, we're not just talking about Lamar Jackson not playing. We're talking about I mean, I don't have the list of people, but they have four pro-ball players that's not playing. So the salary cap is $280 million. $160 million of the salary cap was on the sideline. And we can't just brush that off. My whole thing is when it comes to this, when it comes to football, basketball, you know, whatever of a sport, we always come up with these things and, you know, even with the Browning situation, which I was actually

serious about. We say, oh, he's the backup. Oh, this person's hurt. Or this person isn't there. You're in the NFL or the NBA or whatever professional sports you're in for a reason, whether you're a backup, whether you're off the bet, whatever the case is, they picked you for a reason. So when somebody's not available, it can't be that much of a drop-off in between players if you're a professional. We see with Browning, the big drop-off between him and Joe Burroughs, it should not be that much of a drop-off in between Joe Burrow and Browning. You see the drop-off between Lamar and Cooper.

You see this. You're still professional athletes and you have to show up for work. This is not only that, this is an opportunity for you to get another job, but the distance, when people are hurt as from the superstars to the backups, the disparity is alarming. It's crazy. You understand what I'm saying? And I just think that backups should take their jobs more seriously, not saying that they don't, because a bunch of things could attribute to it.

Nervous under the lights, can't handle the pressure, but that's all part of being a professional. You're a professional for a reason. And on the other side of football, you know, this is a momentum game for Texas. Texas have not been looking good. CJ Strout played really well. This is one of these situations where you could be like, okay, this is the type of victory that we needed to get our mojo back. And now they may get into a river on Baltimore's dawn.

I thought it was kind of a revenge game. If everybody remembers last year on Christmas on Netflix, Baltimore beat the shit out to Texans. I think it was 31-2. I remember Houston had two, and it was crazy. So congratulations to Houston and Baltimore. We know we had a lot of pro-war players that were not playing in that game, but this is no excuse.

And I don't like it throughout sports period. The disparity between the stars and the backups is just outlandish. You might as well get somebody off the street. Yeah, I mean, the first four or five, what is this, their fifth game? they they um what was the number i think it's like a hundred and seventy seven that they've let team score on them that's a total amount of points and that's that's just ridiculous but i don't know if you really count this game as a as a bounce back game or a revenge game if you don't have um lamar out there do you really count that killer see the thing is this was all you're

michael irvin about when you go to your record and it says six wins and seven Three loss, whatever. It don't say six wins. Week five, Lamar Jackson wasn't playing. So, therefore, this shouldn't really be a win. It just said a win. I understand where you're coming from. I say that, too, because it may pay off, not benefits you down the line

for playing an extraordinary team. And he'd be like, you got that chip win. But every one in the NFL counts. See, I was having this argument with the niggison, which we always arguing about. Basketball is a little different. Because if you lose in basketball, you have tomorrow or the day after to get it back. It's 82 games.

Every game and football kind of count. That's what Michael Irvin was saying. Oh, and three is the danger zone. Because you only have 17 weeks. It's not an every other day sport or back-to-back game sport. 17 games, 17 weeks, every game counts. So once you make it to the playoffs, even that, fighting out to be in the wild card, fighting to get home field advantage.

All these games count, whether Lamar Jackson's playing, whether Joe's Burroughs player, every game counts. And, you know, back to the shit, we always talk about, best abilities, availability. If they're not available, it doesn't look good. Not only that, they're not, Derek Henry's not looking like he looked last year, even though congrats to him.

I think he went to number five on the leading rushes of all-timeless passive Walter Payton, if I'm not mistaken. You know the fans of me if I remember correctly. But their whole identity this season has, not look good, and to be honest with you, I don't know. Baltimore didn't start off good last year, but it's one of them situations like, whatever, we're not worried about the people in the division. It was Pittsburgh's by week's set.

Yeah. So we don't know how Pittsburgh's going to look. Pittsburgh has not been looking that bad. They're not looking terrible, and they're not looking the best, but they actually are leading in the division. And if you give somebody like Aaron Rogers, great for Beaumont, and you give somebody like Mike Tomlin, great football mind to sit down. and figure this shit the fuck out,

Baltimore will be out the door before you know it if the Pittsburgh Steelers stay on the stride there and right now. And I will say hopefully we do because we continuously say on this show the best ability is availability. And given the other quarterbacks, it's the truth. Given the other quarterbacks in our division,

Aaron Rogers is in the best position because he also hasn't been hurt. So we got to use that to our advantage. Listen, what you got. Listen, you're 100% correct. No Joe Burrow, no. no Lamar Jackson and you got the backup in Dylan Gabriel and you're 100% correct I can't even disagree with you

you got the best situation quarterback wise health wise in the division so if you don't win it is it a complete bus since nobody was there to contend I don't think it's a complete bus because in general I feel like it's been a weird couple of weeks in football in general because even the fact that now we no longer have any undefeated teams after this past weekend we've seen a lot of losses that we didn't expect. And we also always say anything can happen on any given Sunday. And I think that we're seeing that as these teams progress. But I just think it's on, well, I'm not going to say that unfortunate because me, I'm happy. But Baltimore is in a weird situation because they're used

to being winners. And then with, you know, Lamar Jackson being out, then them having to look at Cooper Rush, who they know can't get the job done for them. And then now, they're tied with the Browns for last in the AFC North. Like, nobody expected them to be in this position that they're in now. And the bigger hole they keep digging it's only going to get worse for them unless they pick it back up and they're saying Lamar's supposed to return at this point now it should be the next two weeks but that's still not completely confirmed we have to see if that will happen so they keep letting weeks go by and like cam is always saying every game does count because you don't look on the stat seat and say well this quarterback was out we just don't really know what's going to happen

for them so and I don't know what you said let's say it takes two weeks or three weeks from the come back. It's going to get to a point where he may not come back just to heal up. Let's say, for instance, he doesn't come back the next two games. They're one and six. Now you have to look at the scenario that where you say, damn, are we, even if he comes back and we lose, pardon me, and we win all our games, will we make the playoffs? Should we just sit this nigger the whole season to make sure he's 100% for the next season?

Because if you ask my opinion, if they go one in six or one in seven without him, I don't think we'll see Lamar Jackson the rest of the season. I'll actually agree with you on this one because the same thing you said about the Browns and their quarterback situation that is exactly what happened because sometimes people make decisions that I don't understand

but it makes sense to the organization so we'll see what happens. Not to cut you or right, so you're thinking about it, right? I'm looking at the record here. They're 1 and 4. Let's say he doesn't play the next two games and they lose, if they lose.

So you got 1 and 6, right? So now you've got 10 games left. For them to make the playoffs, they would probably have to win all 11 games, which even with Lamar Jackson, That's a tall task to act, all 10 games, because there will be 10 games left, for them to win or make the playoffs.

Do you want to put them out there and risk more injury, knowing you're not going to play the playoff, make the playoffs? If your organization, he's still young, you still have a lot of time, you may not want to put him out there and help and make him get injured more. Now, if it's a chance for them to make the playoffs,

I think they definitely want to put him out there without a child of doubt. That's all you need a chance in the playoffs. Football is one game. It's not a series. So if they have a chance to make the playoffs cool, if he don't come back and they won and six, one, and seven, you got to think about it.

I don't know if I want that nigga out there, mess or stuff. Let this nigga sit out until next season, even though I know he didn't want to do that. He's a competitor. But we ought to think about our franchise quarterback future. Yeah, very, very good point. And then just real quick to talk about the Texan side, just for CJ Stratt in general,

this is the best football we've seen him play in a long time. So also to your point, hopefully he can kind of keep that momentum going because they need him to feel the best that he can because I mean we talked about that quote in our last episode where he's feeling like he's getting old and it's like that's also not something you want to hear I thought about it I'm like okay even though I understand maybe some things you shouldn't say at the press conference I get it so maybe like yo I'm tired yeah just a certain things and get sat down yeah lose your starting job because you're tired.

Yeah, it never goes well. But maybe this win was the pick-me-up he needed because he had four touchdowns. He played exceptionally well. So I'm not going to go as to saying the Texans are back, but we're seeing some good strides from them. So hopefully this continues. Okay, so this next game,

we're actually going to backtrack to the Thursday night football game last week. So the 49ers beat the Rams 26 to 23 in overtime. The 49ers are four-in-one. Mace, how legit do you think the 49ers are? Are they legit? even with the 49ers winning i'm not really i'm not really sold on them sometimes is how you win and i i look at them as like they're definitely pulling the games off but i don't i don't think like they're putting that fear in teams just like when i think about kansas city um as a team

that i really really like i just think like people are are not fearful of kansas city and when i'm looking at san francisco i'm thinking the same thing like even though they're they're winning these games. I'm not ready to say they win if it comes down to like the playoffs or something like that. Now, you got to love this because Purdy is out and you watch your Mack Jones come in and stepping and do a phenomenal job. So that's a great upside, but I'm still just not convinced.

So for me, that's where I stand. It's the division, looking at the division. division again you know but a great game great game both quarterbacks did they think yeah I'm looking as far as believing in the 49ers this it's a hard question because think about this I'm looking at the division um Arizona I'm not thinking about Arizona they're very inconsistent Seattle Sam Donald looked really good on Sunday he looked really really good heartbreak and loss for them but he looked really good and the Rams the Rams are also good.

But San Francisco is at the top of the division. The one thing that I worry about for San Francisco, I would say I would believe in them. What they're going to have is a real dilemma, and I think Calshanahan will know how to handle it. And I think Brock Purdy knows this because this is how he got his money and his job with somebody being hurt.

And what happened is he was playing in the beginning of season. He got hurt. Mac Jones came in and started playing good, got them two victories, and then Brock Purdy rushed back, like, hold on, Nick ain't taking my spot. And then Brock Purdy got hurt again. Mac Jones steps in, gets 342 yards passing,

and gets the victory. So now I don't know Brock Purdy's timeline on coming back, but what do you do if you're Cal Shanahan? Yeah. Do you sit there and say, we got chemistry because Mac Jones is 3 and 0 this year? Whether you like it or not, he's three and no. And when you have the chemistry going with the team, whether you're a superstar or not, sometimes

it's based upon chemistry. No, that's how Kaepernick got his job. Alex Smith got hurt. Same organization. Alex Smith, I think Alex Smith won, lost one game. I think he would, if I'm not mistaken, 20 and one, something with the 49ers when he was there, 19 and 1, got hurt. Satanao six, seven game.

He said, no, we got this curly-headed blackneck who he eyed right here, you know what I'm We're going to fuck with him. Alex Smith sat down ever since then. Then they've shipped to Kansas City. Same shit, star quarterback. Then they drafted who? Patrick Mahones. Yeah, we got this curly-headed, light-skinned black nigger again.

We're going to need you to go Washington, wherever the fuck you want to go. And because of injury, not necessarily with Patrick Mahomes, but with Colin Kaepernick, you lose your job sometime. And even though they gave Brock Purdy that money, and I think he's the quarterback of their, future, what are you doing this scenario? And it was something that I said on the first take.

What I said on the first take was exactly like, look, it's the big disparity between starters and backups. This is not the case in this situation where you have a backup quarterback taking full advantage of the opportunity that he's given now to where somebody like Kim is questioning. So you're going to put Brock Purdy back there when he's ready? Because to me, Brock Purdy is not going to be ready for a little minute. But Prok Purdy knows this is how he got his job. He got his job with Garapolo and them niggas being hurt.

So he's like, he's panicking in my brain. If I'm cam looking at it, because he shouldn't have came back. Even when he came back, he's up. But he said, Mac Jones looking too good. Let me get the fuck out there and got hurt again. So you know in the NFL it's about continuity, chemistry. And I don't think they're getting rid of. of Brock Purdy, but if shit goes right,

they may sit a nigga down for the season, 342 yards, three wins as a backup quarterback. Good job, Mac Jones. I got to give you a lot of credit because we're sitting here and seeing other backup quarterbacks not living up the expectation. So the question is,

Kyle Shanahan, what are you going to do if Brock Purdy comes back, healthy? And not just the three touchdowns is you got to think about even every quarter he got them in, position and score. So sometime it's not even just the score is can you get the team in position for them to get the field goals, which is how they won. Yeah, two touchdowns. Yeah, two. Okay, also now the weather is changing. Things are moving. Basketball is cooking up and is LeBron

retiring. We will discuss after the break. She called this thing about toxic Poor years and counting Got you feeling like a option Maybe I'm my own problem big She's tired of hearing I don't know What's happening in me won't fall

Oh oh dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about Welcome to be free Why am I in this one you want to be free Welcome back and now let's get into our underdog picks of the day So we're actually going to do NBA preseason starting with the Timberwolves versus Pacers game tonight.

Underdog has Rob Dillingham at 15.5 points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have them higher, lower, mace? Lower. I'm going to lower as well. Yeah, that's kind of high. 15 and a half freezes it? It may not be. Never know.

Okay. Andrew Nemhard is at 13.5 points, rebounds, and assist. Do you have them higher, lower, cam? How many? 13 and a half. All right. Depending on the minute. See, that's the whole thing.

First of all underdog, the whole thing is preseason, so you don't really know how many minutes everybody's going to get. I'm going to assume that he'll be in there enough time. 13 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Yeah, I'm going higher. Okay, and lastly, Pascal, Seacom, is at 15.5 points rebounds and assist as well. Higher me. Hi, hi.

Even if he's playing limited minutes, I think he's going to come back on a tear from last year. I'm going to go, Lord, I don't think he's going to play that much to do all that. And I don't think he's going to exert that much energy because they know how much they need him for the regular season. Okay, make sure you out download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So we're actually going to start with Russell Westbrook. So this was the first NBA Media Day since 2007

without him being included. So just thinking about it and where Westbrook has been and then just seeing all the new signs that we've seen across the league in General Mace, why do you think Russell Westbrook is still unsigned? When it comes to Russell Westbrook, I think there's a bunch of teams that could use his energy, that could use his personnel, his skillset,

everything about Russell Westbrook is like class act. But when it comes to teams, I think it's one of those things that even Killer spoke about it quite some time ago. But when he was talking, I think, about Carmelo. And when it's like when a person is of such a status, they don't fit everywhere. Even though it's not that he can't make a team is do you really want to put Russell Westbrook as like the backup to the backup or something like that? Because he may feel, you know, disrespected and disgruntled when really it's not that he can't play, but people are trying to develop their team for the future. So one of those type of situations, I think that may play against him making a roster, but he can make any roster.

I think there's not a team in the NBA that Russell Westbrook could not make. Even if he came off the bench as not the sixth man, let's say maybe the seventh man or the eighth man, as the eighth man, he would make a real difference on the team. But, you know, I think that's the real reason why he's not signed because if he's not playing and he doesn't get minutes, he could be such a fan favorite that it caused turmoil in the locker room and on the team. I agree 100%. I think that that's the problem, is that we see, I think shout to Russell Westbrook is fucked up

because he doesn't cheat the game. He's a nigga that's coming to play 120% every night, whether he's the superstar, whether he's second stream, whether he has to come off the bench, whatever he needs to do, we see him do this over the course of his career and at every level, because he's a league MVP. He's been the second option. He's been the person that comes off the bench.

We've seen this, and he's been in every scenario. And to Mesa's point, which I totally agree with, if you don't have him in a major role because of the standard we hold Russell Westbrook up to, it's going to look like, damn, when you're a 19-year-old, 20-year-old, 21, 22, 3-year-old kid coming to a team, and you may be starting,

and Russell Westbrook is. And you're like, damn, I looked up to Russ. And Rush may still be better than you. It's just that does it fit for this particular team? And I think that he's blended on so many different teams that GMs are saying it doesn't matter where he goes. It's not working. And I would sign Russell Westbrook today if I had a team. That's a good point, though, killer.

Yeah. And that's, I would sign him today. But what I'm saying is we've seen him in every capacity that you can see somebody in the NBA, Superstar. Mid-level star, off the bench. Matter of fact, you know what? I volunteer to come off the bets when he's with the clippers,

but nobody can figure out who's going to come off the bench. We've seen him go with the Denver Nuggets. We've seen him with James Hardin again. It didn't work. Matter of fact, let's see. Then we've seen him with Bradley Bill and Houston. We all know his outstanding career

that he had for 11 years in Oklahoma. Then he goes to Houston. Then he goes to Washington. Then he goes to the Lakers. Then he goes to the Clippers. Then he goes to Denver. And it just doesn't work out. Now you think about all the players that we're playing with.

I'm sitting here looking at Oklahoma City Thunder. You're playing with Kevin Durant and you're playing with James Hardin. You look and think about Houston. You're playing with James Harding. You think about Washington. They're playing with Bradley Bill. We think about the Lakers. You're playing with LeBron James.

You think about the Clippers. You're playing with James Hardin again. And I don't know how much Kauai played that year and how much he had or how much time he's getting because, you know, Kauai, he plays with the fuck he wants to play. But you're playing with James Hardin and potentially Kauai that year. You go last year and you go with the Nuggets. You sit there and say, damn, you're playing with the Joker. And Jamal Murray, who's it going to fit with, pause?

Who's it going to work with? You play with a lot of good people. And this is what GMs are probably looking at. Is it going to work here? And I wish it did, man. I'm a big fan. And I know why he's really not signed. Start to your question.

He's not signed because he waived his play option. That's why you're not playing. You thought the grass was going to be greener somewhere else, and the grass never turned green. So now that you say that, do you guys, I'm asking both of you guys this, do you feel like he shouldn't have done that? No, I mean, remember, I tell you,

you could always tell what was the decision right by how it turns out. You know, when he waived the player option, he probably thought he could get more money somewhere else or that another team was going to take them. And now it just seemed like that. That's not coming around. And I hate to see Russ playing in China or somewhere like that.

I don't want that for him. Should he waived his play option? I don't know. But Mesa is correct about that, that he might have thought. When you wave your play option. You think you got a bad coming. You think somebody else absolutely might want you. But then again, you got to think about it.

Maybe he wasn't happy in Denver. And Russ made a shitload of money over the years. It ain't like he's starving for no money. You know, we've seen him take a pay cut just to be. or in certain places. So it doesn't like he needs money. But maybe he wasn't happy in Denver, but I do agree with Mace when he says,

waived the player option, because you think somebody pick them up and maybe somebody will during the middle of the season. Hopefully they do. But at the end of the day, I do agree. If you waived your play option, you thought somebody else was going to pick you up. Or you just didn't want to be in Denver?

Do you think he could have just said, you know what, sign me and trade me somewhere else? Yes, you're correct. Yeah. He waived the option thinking he had something else. Yeah, well, we'll see if someone picks him up. So moving along, the Warriors had a little bit of roster changes. So Free Agent Al Horford has committed to a multi-year deal with the Warriors,

and the Warriors also signed Seth Curry. So Mace, do you like these additions to the team? No. I don't think it makes a difference, obviously. When they come to this West Coast, the West is so loaded. I mean, the only way this makes a difference is if Seth Curry comes. comes in firing on all cylinders, making 80% of his threes. Then this becomes a valuable scenario.

I think when you put two brothers on the team, it's imperative that they win. In fact, there's more pressure on them to win because everybody's like, you got your brother on the team, right? So when you look at the West, you look at Houston coming stronger pause than they've ever been. Then you got OKC coming back. I don't see how two small guards are going to work in the West Coast. And I'm a big Stefan Curry fan and love the Curry family, but the West is too big, pause, when it comes to guards

to be playing two small guards under 6'4. That's just not going to work. I don't think that the West is super duper loaded, and I don't think that these trades really make a different for Go to State. I think the two players that's going to be imperative If it's not the core players that's been there, it's Jimmy Butler and Buddy Hill. I'm not really worried about

with Seth Curry being there and our half is a dog, so even though he's getting older, he works. Seth Curry just signed him to sign him. I'm not saying he's, yonest, brother, but whatever. It's Jimmy Butler and it's Buddy Hill. Those are the two people that are going to determine

how far go the state goes. We know what Draymond brings to the table. We know what Steph Curry brings to the table. Jimmy Butler started off good with that trade last year little injuries here and near Nick Snacks so on and so forth and he played good

but then to me he was damn playing his game to fit in and you got to pause and you got to do that when you're part of a championship team you're saying okay cool I don't want to come here and disrupt what's going on no we brought you here to be that third person or maybe

first person some nights first or second option to take us to where we need to go. Buddy Hill, he's a streaky player. He's one of these niggas that could be eight for eight from three or one for 27 from the field. And if he's hot, he's hot. So to me, I'm not saying Golden State is going to go too far, but if they want to go anywhere, it's going to be Buddy Hill and Jimmy Butler. I'm not really worried about Al Hartford and Seth Curry. Seth Curry is more, we know what Draymond's going to do. We know what stuff's going to do. Buddy Hill. Jimmy Butler. Not only that, I want to see if Kaminga worked on anything in the off season.

He got re-signed two-year extension, very athletic, super duper young. If he ever got his skill set together and stopped basing everything off his athleticism, he could be very, very dangerous. So to me, Kamenga, Jimmy Butler, Buddy Hill, more than Seth Curry and our Hartford. We'll see what happens. But to Mesa's point, the West is loaded, and we'll see what happens. Yeah, that team is just too old right now. You think they're too old? Okay. So also on the West, because I guess this would be the younger team. So the Pelicans have a little bit of a newer look with a skinnier Zion, Jordan Poole, and a returning Dejante Murray, even though we don't know exactly the timetable where he should return after having surgery earlier in the year. But how do you think this team will be going into this season?

I really like this team. I really like it from the aspect of if you get Dejante Murray, Dejante Murray back. I think if he's healthy, this is a really dangerous team. Not that they'll win it or anything like that, but I think they're a team that you might not want to play if Zion is playing well. And it's a lot of ifs because that's all they have there's ifs. But the potential there to be great is right there. You know, if they get one more piece,

I'm not sure if it's like a running big or somebody who could play outside or knock down shots, but around 610, 611. This could be a really, really dangerous team for the West because we know that Zion could bully his way to a basket, but I'm not sure even with that how skinny he's got. I got the wait to see. Yeah, I can't count.

Look, every time I put a little bit of steak inside the Pelicans, Zion's not available. And I'm not going to count them to be available now just because he's skinny. I can't count on Zion in the last four or five years. how long he's been in the NBA. When he shows me that he could play 80% of the games, then maybe I could put some stock into the Pelicans.

Until then, I don't know. And the way that he was bullying people when he is healthy, are you going to be able to bully them with that frame that he has right now? You know, he's very, very skinny. A lot of that shit was predicated on his body, his mass, his muscle, and not saying he's still kidding, not saying he doesn't have any strength, but you just don't know.

I'm going to have to agree with Mason's say it's too many question marks. Even with Murray, Murray's big Murray fan, but he's not available and it wasn't working out for him in Atlanta with Tray Young. I thought he was sensational. That would have been really great if he stayed in San Antonio. Imagine Murray right now in San Antonio with Fox, Wembe, and the rookie of the year. Listen, that would be great if he's stuck around. But I get it. You have to do what you had to do.

But San Antonio would be a real threat with a healthy Murray, Aaron Fox, and Wembe. I think that would be really good. But, you know, shit didn't happen like that. But as far as me putting any stock into the Pelicans, just can't do it based on Zion. Yes, he kind of would have to have a whole new game as a skinny Zion. I'm not sure about I want to see that. Why not?

No, I think he need to get, like, not stronger, but, you know, turn it, turn it back into muscles. Pause, because the whole back-down game, he won't have that as a skinny person. I never saw nobody skinny just bullying their way to a basket. Okay, fair. And then looking at the sun, so we now know that they have Jalen Green, Devin Booker, and Dylan Brooks,

and we know that KD was traded to the rocket. So how confident in the Suns are you? Not at all. What are we expected from this? Like, Statt, you asking me these questions today. I don't know how you came up with them. but what am I supposed to expect from Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks?

What am I supposed to expect? I expect Book to go back to being booked. Maybe that's what they're trying to create here. They're trying to create this environment where Book can be the player that he once was before KD and all of them got there. And I see him going back to getting 30 and 40. I think if Jalen Green brings his game,

They could be a decent team, but I don't see it going any further than that. It's just something about Phoenix. I love the city, love the weather, but I just don't see them winning anything. I agree. I think that we've seen what Jalen Green did in the playoffs last year, and that's the reason he's in Phoenix now. You know, Jalen Green was one of these players that we possibly could have thought would be a franchise player for the Houston Rockies.

He's getting the commercials, he's getting the interviews. He's getting follow around, worrying about who he's fucking and everything else. When you're not popping, they don't care who you fucking. You know what I'm saying? They don't care who you with. And not only that, the bad bitches or the influences, reality TV, they don't want you neither. They don't want no bum-ass nigger on the bench. You was about to be that nigger, and what you did in the playoffs dwindle all your credibility

as far as what you could do in the playoffs. Will you get that back? I'm not sure. But I do agree with Mace said. That was what I was going to say. This just looks like a scenario where Devin Booker is going to be able to be Devin Booker again.

I think Devin Booker, because we was looking at him like a next Kobe Bryant, one of those type players. And when Bradley Bill and Kevin Durant got there, I think that he was trying to cater to them, not in a bad way, trying to fit in chemistry

so they could all potentially win a championship. And it just didn't work out. So I think Booker go back to being Booker, like May said, where we might see these 40-point games, these 50-point games from him. You know, Devin Booker scores 70. A lot of niggas don't remember that. 70 points, that's not easy to do. I think we'll see that Devin Booker this season.

Okay. So the reason I ask these questions, and I know they might seem basic just hearing them off the cuss. But you guys talked about a lot of different things that you like or dislike from these teams. So starting with the Warriors, Mace, you said they have a little bit of an older team. You guys both said you don't really know how you feel. about Zion's size. You said a skinnier Zion may change him.

And then we look at the sons. They've made some additions. You've got somebody like Jalen Green who, you know, went through some things. But they've also made additions to make their team younger. So just in general, for both of you, what do you think are important factors that a team needs to be solid? Like, what are some of those characters and things? To start, you got to be able to defend. I think people put a low value on defense.

All year you hear people saying, oh, Jalen Brunson is this. Then you hear who else was going crazy last year. It's just so many players that be going crazy offensively. But when it balls down to championships, championships are one with defense. They're always one with defense. When it comes to that place where two teams are desiring to win that game and somebody says, you know what, you're not scoring. And the first team that does that always seem like the team that's going to win

because these are the teams that don't end up losing back-to-back games. That's another thing you look for in championship teams. Like you're able to adjust when you take a loss, you correct things right away. You never run into two games lost or and you don't. And it's the first team that can win on the road. So these are things that I look for. Teams that can win on the road. teams that don't lose

back-to-back games, they make corrections quickly, and teams that are willing to defend. Because you're going to find buckets in the NBA, there's so many players that can make buckets, but can you stop somebody else? Because if I scored 20 points, but you got 25,

then it doesn't matter. I got 20. Yeah, listen, if you think about it, Mesa's 100% correct. You look at any team that won the championship in the last, I don't know how many years and I don't have to stat, I didn't Google it, but I just remember top of my head, Golden State.

And even when we think about OKC, OKC last year was ranked number one in defense. And I'm pretty sure any team that won the championship in the last five years is definitely ranked in the top five in defense. Defense absolutely matters. Not only that, to me, you have to have a solidified person that you could go to. When things are getting rough and everybody's there, we'll give that person a ball or not just one person, two people. You think about this, right?

Of course we know Shea gets, we'll just go off to the defending champs because they just won. If you think about this, we know what Shea's going to do. But if he has an off night, Chet may step off. Not only that, you have a decent two people off the bench. You got Dork coming off the bench. You got Caruso coming off the bench. And you have a three-headed monster with their offense. But defense is, may hit the nail on that.

It cannot be undersold. Even when Go to State is one of their championships, their defense was number one in the league, if I'm not mistaken. course you're going to check, but I remember it's at least top five. It matters. But also besides that, when times get rough, who can we give the ball to and get us a basket when it counts? Because sometimes people go cold. And when you go cold, you have to have somebody who can get us some baskets. But I think OKC, and that's why they paid everybody, such a fucking well-rounded team from top to bottom, you can't really go wrong. And I think they're going to be in control for some time to come. Okay. So now...

Oh, go ahead. Yeah, I was thinking about Williams. Williams is another option on that team that when, when Shea is not going, Williams kind of won that series, too. Won a game in that series. Shout out J-Dub. Okay, so we started talking about this a couple episodes ago, but we do have an update basically on Trey Young's response

because Trey Young and Pat Bev were going back and forth for quite a little bit on social media. So basically, Pat Bev said Trey hasn't won enough to speak, on him. Trey responded saying Pat played with big time guys. So basically he explained this in like a couple minutes of a YouTube video. So he said, Pat played with big time guys, including LeBron, Janice, Aunt Kwai, and Hardin, yet only made one conference finals. He said, I win playing games on the road and I'm ready to get to the playoffs. You went playing games at home and you standing on the scores table acting like it's a championship. I know you were labeled as a tough defender,

a great defender and the accolades say that you were. But I promise you, anytime you was the court with me i was never scared of you i was never scared of patty beth so mace what do you think about what trey young had to say to pat bev i don't see why trey young is even talking about pat be this is this is not a conversation he should be entertaining i know i know i wouldn't entertain it i know killer wouldn't entertain it some people don't merit a response man it's like i just don't know how else to say it. Like, Trey Young is up here, Pat Beav is not even in the league. Like, so why is he even talking to him?

Doesn't he, doesn't he playing like Turkey somewhere? Yeah. So how does he... Turkey is different a different time zone. There's no way he should even be arguing. We should be sleep when Pat Beb is up. So I don't even know how niggas is even arguing. You got to go to sleep and wake back up to find out what he said.

This is just ridiculous. We got to stop being distracted, man. You know, it's like people are watching the ditty sent us in, and the government shut down. We got to get focused, man. Kim. I'm trying to see what Pat Bev played. Tel Aviv.

That's where he played? Where he played at? The Tel Aviv thing. Israel. Okay. Boy, he playing in Pakistan, man. Yeah, listen, man. it's funny

because the way stat reddit is correct but if you watch the video Trey Young getting up in the middle of the video walking off about why am I even doing this I thought Trey Young's response was fabulous man you know as somebody

who's trying not to respond to people and trying to be growing and be poor be better like Mace said see Mace got the shit where he just doesn't respond me I'm getting there I'm learning I'm being around him

I can't ignore everybody because sometimes it's just too easy to ragdoll niggas. Pause. So it'd be like, nah, I'm gonna give a nigga two minutes of my time, so I get it. Mesa's master ignoring people.

I'm not there yet, so I get where you coming from, Trey Young. And Trey Young, listen, man, I think we're gonna end this show after everything. We're gonna show some of Trey Young's response because it's hilarious. He gets up and walks off.

He's like, yeah, why am I even? It's like he talking to somebody. Like, yo, what are we talking about? Why am I doing this? The fuck? Because he's reading Pat Bev's stats and he's like, yo, what are we doing this for? The way he did it, it was like

somebody set up to care from him and gave him that Pat Bev's stats and was like, nah, just do this. I'm telling you. And he's just looking at him, reading him like, for what? This nigga's bugging. I thought it was very funny.

I thought it was very entertaining. But I get where Mace's come from, but I enjoyed it. I thought it was hilarious, to be honest with you. Yeah, they're like, I looked it up. They're 10 hours ahead of, I mean, they're 10 hours ahead. So, wow, who got time to be 10 hours ahead of somebody talking about them?

Then you got to wait for them to get up. It's like, come on, man. What are you doing, bro? That's a good point. And I do agree. Trey Young had a great response. So I actually have one more question for both of y'all. But it makes a good argument because about the time you say something, I'm asleep.

So I wake up to it. I respond to you and then you wake up and then you respond to it. It could really go a long, a long time for us. He said he needed to say. But I want to ask both of y'all this because y'all do handle things differently. So in real life, because, you know, Trey Young did what worked for him, when do you decide if someone does merit a response versus doesn't? That's good.

See, because they got this thing on the internet. people just connect their names with yours. And I've been paying attention to that. I'm new to the internet, right? So I'm learning stuff about it. I'm looking into things. I'm learning that people would just say your name to put your name with theirs.

And I look at pictures. I'm like, why is he saying my name? You know, I was too emotional about it. I had to step back and say, you know what? He's doing what he's supposed to do. Put his name to the fastest things move. If your name is moving, connected with that. And when you think about what do I look at and say this merits a response, number one,

it has to be a person on your tier. If they're not on your tier, you should not respond. There's no reason to respond. If you're here and they're here, you just don't hear them. I don't know how the volume reaches that point, but that's how I look at it. not on your tier or not in your class, then you shouldn't be responding to them. Certain people, and we're not talking about who you used to be.

We're talking about right now in 2025. If they're not on the same class, you're on, you're kind of wasting your time. That's a great way. Me, I'm just not sophisticated like that. And that's it, no, I'm like, KD, obviously, KD, obviously, K. Can he answer everything?

Nah, you're right, though. To be honest, Richard, because sometimes this is what I do do. I swear to God, this is me. I'd be like, I think that way. And I'd be like, where, and then I'd be in the middle of the night. I'm like, nah. Nah, the nigger went too far. Yeah, and I'd be like, no, I'm going to do a little something, something.

You're going to say so. No, what I say, killer, is that over the years, I've seen niggers pause get it back from somebody else, so I know I could just. What you're saying is right. Let this one slide because he's going to run into somebody. What you're saying is right because, listen, especially now, this shit is the Wild Wild West. Niggas just say your name and so you can get some traction and then go on for however long. And then you'd be like, all right, cool.

And then they still say your name. You know what I mean, niggas head I live in rent free? I live in niggas head red free because I don't be giving niggas no time. And then when niggas send me shit, I'm like, this nigger's still talking about me? What does it mean to live in somebody's rent-free, pause? When they always think about you, and you don't even, and you're not even, you don't know why they're thinking about you. Like, that's what it means, like, yo.

Oh, then I'm really living. Yeah, like my nigger, I'll see some shit because niggins will send me some shit, and you'd be like, what is he still, it's been four years. Why am I still in the nigger brain, pause, after this long? You see an interview, niggas be saying my name, and you'd be like, I've still, yo bro, I'll stop paying you mine I don't know how long ago but you're still thinking about me

and that's like to your point that's where I get to your point and I'd be like, it won't stop with you I get to your brain like it won't ever stop with you you need this pause to keep whatever you got going on in your brain

and party by yourself have fun and fight by yourself that's when I get to that point but then back to me I wait a three, four months and I may do something and it's not about them but they'll think it's about them

it's a little all over the place for me but your answer I believe is 100% correct if you're not here and you're here it's no reason for you to even respond because a lot of times niggas try to bait you I told a nigga about that I swear to God three days ago

I told some men somebody who's talking about I said I just want to get where murders at because murder laugh at everything. I show murder shit, he's like, what? They say, what? And he's just going to laugh. He pays nobody. No mind.

So I swear on everything I love. Three days ago, I was telling something out of everything I said, nothing bothers this nigger. You can talk about this nigger wherever. It's nothing that's going to bother him. As far as niggas talking on the internet is concerned, he pays it no mind. Yeah, I grew up with government cheese.

Yeah, exactly. Out of milk. Yeah. You know, canned food. Yeah. There's nothing you could do to break me. Yeah, I told a nigga that there, nothing. I said, I show murder some niggins talk and shit.

This nigga died, started crying hysterically laughing. There's nothing that bothers him. When niggas talk about me, he really does not care. You're wasting time. And then you're not going to really get a response. And he just told you why. Well, good advice, y'all. We got to take a play out of that book because it's good.

But also, I'm also with Kim. Sometimes you want to say something because people will be trying it. You know what government cheese is? No. Oh. You're going to explain? It's like a box of cheese that comes like this.

You ever had it? You had a government cheese killer? Mel can't kick you out of the house. Mel can't get you out of the house. What guy north of the bad part of the cheese? You know, dear, well, it was, some of it would go bad. Mace tried to chop off the bad part of the nigger house. And the nigger kicked the mouth.

He told Mace, get out of the cold. Because Brace got the cheese. You don't understand some piece of the cheese that went bad. They got so mad. And they got so mad. He said, why you're throwing my cheese? Yeah, it makes me With the cheese

Yeah, because her mother made the best burgers So I try to go over there And make a burger myself But he had the cheese The back part was old So I tried to cut around it And he wanted me to start From the back of the cheese

So I went behind his back and shot Take a cut And I think killer told on me One of them niggins was big It was somebody that told on me It was daggers one of them Yeah I said, yo How does he know I'm away

And then the next thing I know A nigga walking me to the elevator Yeah, you got to go Bill King with the original bar And he was kicking niggas out for no reason If you say anything, you kick you out the crib, yo. Yeah, he would say, I'm fixing his house. This nigga Mesa always coming here trying to change stuff.

Yeah. Definitely need more stories for y'all. But the point being is, I don't know if your parents had government cheese. It seemed like they had lived a good life, too. I don't know. They were asking me yesterday, they were like, have you ever had a struggle meal? I was like, I don't know. Listen, first of all, we downplaying.

There used to be a line outside for it. Oh. Yeah. For the free cheese, you would be a. People be waiting outside and a line to get the government cheese. Because that's how much niggas like cheese. It was free. You'd be outside and get free cheese.

So technically you were wasting it. Yeah, that's what he thought. But it was bad. But he left it out. So the back part of the cheese was like pros. It was super hard. Yeah. He was like, nah, we can't.

You can't do none with it anyway, but he took it upon himself to do it. And Mel King might have, you don't know Mel King. First of all, he might have thought that this, that ain't your place. to do it. He would always be like a make of a mason dish. Yeah, like he wanted him like if anybody going to cut the back party

cheese off. It's going to no call he could have ate it anyway but he was one of my house niggas. Yeah. Well, I told you I learned something new every single day so that's a new one for me but that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching

and as always it is what it is. What you want, nigger thing, everything nigger, super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.