IT IS WHAT IT IS - REVISITING THE TANK VS. FLOYD DREAM MATCH & WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE BABY RUMORS! | S4 EP43

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

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along with your hosts, Mace and cam. Yeah. That was good. Let me put my head. Cam. You're a little too calm. I don't like what you got on. You proud of me? I don't care if it was Prada Versace everything you coming in your

pajamas in a cowboy hat who you been hanging out with I don't like it I don't really like what I'm looking at I said you're coming I said I don't care if it's Prada Versace the shit that was in Floyd's ceiling you're coming I said I don't care if it's Prada Versace The shit that was in Floyd's ceiling

You're getting a little too comfortable You're coming in a cowboy hat and your pajamas What are you doing? This is not a pajama It looks pajama-y It looks pajama-y to me It don't look like pajamas No That looks a little It looks pajama-y. It looks pajama-y to me. It don't look like pajamas.

No. That looks a little... It's like a silk. If she can't say no, clear cut. It's not silk. Yeah, it looks silky. It looks like... No, it's not silky, man. It's cotton.

You look a little too comfortable, man. I don't know where you've been hanging out at or who you've been with, but you got on a cowboy hat and pajamas. I don't like that. I don't like that. Matter of fact, you know what? This is what I'm going to do for my viewers.

This is what I'm going to do for my viewers. I dare you stand up. I dare you stand up so our viewers can see what you got on. Stand up. Let the viewers see what you're wearing do I got on pajama pants no so stand up

stop all you gotta do is stand up stand up oh my goodness killer why can't you be focused on the show because i'm trying to but i'm visually seeing something yo i got on pants you wilding out killer look okay okay okay say no more. Okay. I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

I'm shocked. Yeah, kill his wallet. So let's get into it. So we started this discussion last episode. Definitely want to give you guys the opportunity to elaborate on it. So Mace

discussed how an interesting fight could be Mayweather versus Tank. This is obviously all hypothetically speaking, but I want you to elaborate on that idea. And then who do you think would win? Open discussion. Let's get it. Let's get it. Okay.

When we're talking about Floyd and Javante, right, it's a growing population that actually think Floyd will win. At first, it was like, oh, Javante, Javante, Javante. There was a lot of people saying Javante will win if it's 12 rounds. But as we started shortening that time, there's people that's actually saying they don't go against Floyd. So who I think will win, I mean, I'm like what Killer said yesterday. I go with Floyd into further notice, taking nothing away from Javante.

But, you know, you got to beat a dog to be a dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know a lot of Javante, he's a phenomenal athlete. Power in both hands, paws great with footwork. Read the ring. His IQ is up there, but I wouldn't say his IQ is higher than Floyd's. And 30 wins is a long ways from 50 wins so i'm just putting it out there no disrespect to him i don't need nobody reaching out to me like yo watch your mouth and all that because it ain't worth it um i definitely Um, I definitely would say 30 is a long way from 50.

That's just what I would say. So even I know sometimes people like, yo, he's doing what Floyd did. He didn't do what Floyd did just yet. I mean, it's great that what he's doing, but these weekends are not Floyd like yet. They're getting there and they can go there. And I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm not saying he can't pass 50 wins, but I don't see him winning 20 more fights without a loss. Just me personally.

And would he win the fight? I think he has every tool necessary to win the fight, but I wouldn't go against Floyd until you knock him out. And Cam? Yeah. What May said is absolutely correct. See,

Frank had a great plan, but that wasn't going to last for 12 rounds with Floyd. Floyd could do that for 12 rounds with Frank did. Gervonta, but see, with Gervonta, a lot of times, if he doesn't knock you out early, he's never really winning on the scorecards.

He sizes you up, he wears you down, and then he knocks you out. Over a 93% knockout rate, this is what he does. So the plan that Frank had was exceptional, but Floyd could take that plan that Frank had, and I'm not saying he would ever use Frank's plan, but he could use that concept on what Frank did and last for 12 rounds because he trains for 15, 20 rounds.

When Floyd trains, they have to put different sparring partners in the ring because they get tired. Floyd trains five-minute rounds, 20 rounds a day. So, I would definitely go with Floyd, but the one thing that we do have to keep in mind is this. We've never seen Floyd knocked

down, let alone knocked out, but the question is, does Javante hit harder than Shane Mosley? Does Javante hit harder than Madonna? Because we've definitely seen Floyd Rock before. Now, did he go down? No, we've seen him rock.

And if you're asking me, he hits harder than them at 135. Are those punches going to be effective at 147? I think that was part of the reason he got the rehydration clause with Ryan because he knows maybe those punches won't hit as hard at 147. I think that was part of the reason he got the rehydration clause with Ryan because he knows maybe those punches won't hit as hard at 147. Do I know this for a fact? This is pure speculation. I have no idea. And we've seen that kind of with Benavidez the same night. Benavidez moved up two weight classes. He beat the shit out of homeboy, but he didn't knock him out or punish him like he did two weight classes lower than the weight class he fought on Saturday night. So that's what you have to keep.

And also, you're killing people at 135 when them punches hurt at 147. That's the real question. But if we're talking about IQ, I don't think anybody's IQ is higher than Floyd's. I don't think it's a better defensive fighter than ever. And will he have to stand him up to go 12 rounds? Absolutely. Maybe it would be 10 rounds because there's no title on the line

or anything like that. But Floyd had the same kind of plan that Javante had against Frank when he caught McGregor. And even though McGregor's not a pure boxer, he knew he would tie you down around seven or eight. They did a great job.

If you think about UFC, they do five rounds, five-minute rounds for five minutes for five rounds, which equals 20 minutes. A boxer matches 36 minutes. So Floyd and his father put that in their brain. He ain't going to be able to, after 25 minutes, he's going to get tired because he's not used to training for 36 minutes, which is a big difference when you're on one-on-one combat,

whether it's UFC or whether it's boxing. It's a long time. And what Floyd did was turn McGregor down because Conor McGregor was having a lot of success, but Floyd wasn't really throwing no punches and Floyd warmed down in round 7 8, 9 and that's when you got the victory I believe it was round 10 if I'm not mistaken

but that's not going to work against Floyd, Floyd's not going to get tired, Floyd is great on defense and Floyd might take Javante's emotions into perspective as well because he'd be like, you come into this fight emotional.

I'm not. And I'm not saying that Gervonta will. I'm just saying everything from the outside looking in. I don't know his training procedure, anything else like that. So I don't want, like you said, Mace, him and his camp to take offense to this.

We're just talking about pure experience because I don't believe it's a more exciting boxer in boxing right now than Gervonta, and not just that. He deserves to be on the top five pound for pound list, if you're asking me. But we're talking about IQ.

We're talking about defense. We're talking about stamina. We're talking about somebody who's been doing this the last going on 30 years, close to 30. I'm going with Floyd. If you think about this from the end of the fight, Frank didn't have any marks on his face. Javante's face was peppered up.

He had marks all over his face. And that means he was getting tagged. And if Frank is hitting you like that, Floyd is very precise and very accurate when it comes to his punching. So that's something that Jermonte will have to deal with as well. Just depending on a knockout against Floyd,

don't count on it. It hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying it can't happen at any given time when you're boxing, but we have to think about this. The only time I remember Floyd going down is when his hand was hurt and he took it years ago. Larry to the flow.

Well, first of all, let me just say, because I didn't want Floyd. Larry's mic is low. I don't want Floyd to... If Larry mic low to y'all too, Larry's microphone is low. Put the microphone closer to your mouth Yo yo So here's my thing I want Floyd to stay 50 and 0

And I know this is just a hypothetical But Man father time is real And I know we keep forgetting that That he's a little bit older And listen I know he's in better shape than me and you, Mace, put together for sure right now. He's better in shape than you.

So I feel like he's in better shape than me and you put together for sure. No offense, Buster. Larry, he's in better shape than you. Larry, listen to this, Larry. Did you know I was a black belt? A black belt in what? In jiu-jitsu. Yeah, Larry. Did you know I was a black belt? A black belt in what? In jujitsu. Yeah, right.

You serious? Nah, come on, Mace. Cut it out, man. Cut it out. Why you think I be walking by myself? Because you don't want to attract any attention. That's why you walk by yourself. Why you think I be walking by myself?

Because you a kung fu killer? Is that what it is? You a killer? You a kung fu killer now. We got to watch out for this. No. Go ahead. Make your point, Larry.

No, I didn't. Go ahead, Kim. Kim, he's a kung fu killer now. Listen, at the end of the day, Floyd is older. That young, listen, I know y'all saying that old boy was marked up. And listen, that could be a little light-skinned thing going on there too. You know what I'm saying? We didn't get to see the other brother bruised up a little bit like that.

No, I'm just saying, man, listen, the way he was punching old boy the other day, the knockouts that he's given people, Tank, that is, has been brutal. Listen, let's be honest. Let's be real clear. Cam says something very important. Floyd is precision. He's precise. He's precise. But his fights were boring as fuck.

A lot of times. Flat out boring. Javante is coming to knock you the fuck out the ring. He handled business. He get his check. And you just said some of my Vegas nights. I've been here for a lot of Vegas nights. Tupac, I've been here all my life. The other night, it was popping the other night.

It was. It was one of those nights. It was one of those nights. And if Javante keeps doing that, that energy is just going to get bigger and better, Paul. It's going to be good for him. Let me ask you a question, though. Yeah. Bigger and better, Paul.

It's going to be good for him. Let me ask you a question, though. Yeah. Who did Javante beat that was equivalent to a Sugar Shane? I mean, listen. Who did he beat that's equivalent to a Kodo? Listen, I mean, I don't have a... To a Canelo. To a Canelo. To a Canelo. Come on, man. Listen, I mean, I don't have a... To a Canelo. To a Canelo.

To a Canelo. Come on, man. Listen, listen. I think a lot of those fighters are great fighters. He smoked them niggas. He smoked who? Floyd made them look like they were not even good. De La Hoya.

Pacquiao. Listen, he didn't fight De La Hoya in his prime. Moseley rocked him. That was the only person. And that's what I'm talking about. Did you see how he responded to it? Listen, Floyd is the champ. He's the great. He is the champ.

Let's not act like he didn't fight De La Hoya in his prime. Fuck no. That's a whole different fight. Okay, who else? Say something different. Well, he didn't fight Lomachenko. He didn't fight Lomachenko in his prime.

Listen, listen. I'm just saying, we talking about Frank. We talking about Tank and Floyd. It's a new sheriff in town, man. Y'all got to let that man get that youngster's time. I'm saying it is his time, but you don't get dog status until you run through a dog. I mean, you're talking to dogs. What's his record?

What y'all talking about? He's 30 and 0? 28 knockouts? 30 and 0, 28 knockouts. Come on, man. Leave that man alone. I know. I know.

He ain't got complete balls. We not downplaying what he's saying. It's just, and this is what happens a lot when people are dealing with people who know sports. When you start comparing people to the greats, that's when this discussion happens. If we wasn't talking about Floyd, we would be talking about Javante as the gorilla of all gorillas, right? But when you put him in that aspect of looking in the light of Floyd, he's not Floyd yet. To me. To me.

That's my opinion. I agree with that somewhat. But what I'm saying is, at 47 years old, I think it would be, I don't think Floyd's a 10 out of 10 fighter anymore. Just by age. I think that speaks to his greatness that we even have in the conversation. Listen, we know Floyd is the champ. He great.

But at 47 years old, if a fight took place next year and he's 48 against Tank, I'm taking Tank. Yeah, next year I'll take Tank too. I'm talking about right now why he's pissed off with Tank and what Tank is doing. I think he could do that right now. A lot can happen in a year. Very true. I'm taking Tank. Hold can happen in a year. Very true.

I'm right, I'm taking, Hold on, I want to say something real quick as well. What I want to say is this, and you're right, father age catches up to a lot of us, but we have no bad habits.

You don't drink, you don't drug, you don't smoke, you jog home from the club to tonight if you need to eight miles that counts also a lot of people's habits play into their age as well sitting around i'm not doing anything just start and then you start drinking and you start doing other stuff i'm gonna just smoke a cigar tonight i'm gonna listen, that man has no bad habits. And that's a testament of just to him saying, you never know. You never know, nigga.

Because he can sit there and be like, nigga, I ain't fighting no more. I'm retired, nigga. And then just sit around and chill out. We watched a picture of Kobe Bryant, God bless the day, maybe five, six months after he retired. He got a gut and everything else. And he made a joke. Kobe had posted on his page, don't worry about it, y'all.

I'll lose this in two weeks. People who don't have bad habits, you have to take into consideration that just because they're older, that doesn't mean that they're not keeping their self in shape. That's A. second when when Bill Haney and Floyd Mayweather

were arguing on their live Bill Haney pardon me Floyd Mayweather told Bill Haney I'm glad you got an undefeated boxer in the gym I'm 50 and 0 under them lights and I think Floyd doesn't play game under those lights.

You made up a great point how Shane Mosley rocked Floyd. And I don't know if a lot of people watched that fight. I watched that fight several times. It's one of my favorite fights. That fight, Benoit Hopkins against Tito Trinidad, Corrales against God bless the dead.

No, not Corrales. Corrales against Floyd was a great one too, but Corrales against the bless the dead I can't Corrales against Floyd was a great one too but Corrales against the other Spanish thing I can't think, they had two fights both of them was really good fights I'm just thinking about my top five fights if you watch that fight

which Mitch didn't elaborate on but he mentioned it the way Floyd responded Shane Mosley then went another round after he knocked Floyd. When Floyd went back to that corner, he didn't listen to nobody in that corner. He didn't listen to Leonard Ellaby. He didn't listen to God bless the day, his uncle Roger Mayweather. He kept looking up at the jumbotron, watching how he got rocked, and he was embarrassed, and he embarrassed Shane Mosley for the next nine rounds. It was a complete shutout after that.

Sometime when you hit the beehive, bees come out, nigga. Yeah, I like that. Enjoy this one and them niggas. Yeah. I like that. And he's one of them niggas. Do not embarrass me

because I'm not here to get embarrassed. It was a complete shutout. Lastly, what I'll say to your comment, Larry, is this. When you sit there and say, pardon me, his fights were boring. Floyd, when I had this argument with Dan Levitas, out to Dan Levitar and the Levitar Show. Big fans of their podcast, man. Real, real great show. But when he was on ESPN on Highly Questionable,

me and him had a debate about Floyd Mayweather about three, four, maybe five years ago now. I'm not sure. And when you say his fights are boring, Larry, the name of the game is not called knock you out. The game of the game is not called knock you out. The name of the game is not called you hit me, I hit you. The name of the game is not you do two punches, I get two punches. The name of the game is called boxing.

And because Floyd is the best boxer, that does not mean his fights won't be boring because he's there to box. His tank is there to knock you out. Floyd is there to box. And the name. His tank is there to knock you out. Floyd is there to box. And the name of the game is not called knock you out. So when you say he's boring, a lot of times what Floyd did was, and I'm bringing the same topic up that I brought on the Levitar show, is that after he fought Oscar De La Hoya, he became Money Mayweather.

Before the Oscar De La Hoya fight, he was Pretty Boy Floyd, where he was in a lot of gruesome fights. When he was in Battle's Ward, when you see him dripping blood down his nose and face and everything else, and he realized that a lot of people come to see him lose. Majority of people come to see him lose. And he says, I don't care if you come here to see me lose, nigga. Buy the ticket, and I'm going to outbox you. I'm not here to knock you out.

I'm here to win at a boxing match. It's the same when a lot of these kids may be not old enough to know, but if you ever seen the movie Straight Outta Compton, and N.W.A. was getting criticized for having all these harsh and vulgar lyrics that Calvin Butts, the reverend at the time, they bought 10,000 CDs of N.W.A. and ran them Do what you want with them motherfuckers. So when you're paying for a Floyd Mayweather fight, Floyd wants them pay-per-view numbers. He wants asses in the seat. And if you don't like his fighting

style, it doesn't matter to you. As long as them three judges see that he outboxes the person in front of him, that's what matters. So you're talking about excitement, Larry, which we all want to see excitement, which is great. That's fine.

Not the name of the game that they're in. The name of the game that they're in is boxing. As much as we love Mike Tyson for knocking niggas out, Lennox Lewis said, eat these jabs, nigga. Eat these jabs, nigga. You want to eat these for about nine, 10 rounds to where he ended up knocking Mike Tyson out because Mike Tyson couldn't knock him out for 10 rounds.

So boring or not, Floyd is there to win the fight, knowing the majority of people there to see him lose. And then you could get mad to say this fight wasn't shit, but you'll pay again to see him lose. I don't disagree with any of that. I mean, listen, it is boxing. It's the sport of boxing. All I'm saying is tank is exciting. Fighting is about boxing, and we want to be entertained. I want to see a gladiator in there.

I don't want to see people running around the room, sticking jab, counter-punching. I mean, look, boxing, I get it. Most people aren't like you and they don't. You like to see boxers. Most people want to see they pay to see the nigga get knocked out. Like, we wanted to see that nigga get knocked out that day, and we got a front row seat and that nigga getting knocked the fuck out.

And the people walking away. What I'm saying is. Hold on, hold on. One more thing, killer. One more thing. Absolutely. Go ahead. Now, as far as Mase talking about,, hold on. One more thing, killer. One more thing. Absolutely. Now, as far as Mase talking about, as far as Mase talking about, you know,

Floyd mad right now, Javante mad too. He tired of his uncle over here talking shit every time he look up. And to him, to Javante, he looking forward to that old-ass uncle, nigga, it's over for you, nigga. Get out the way.

And they, you know, he might come in the ring. You want to slap the shit out of Floyd that way either. So, I mean, that way. So what I'm saying is at the same time, Floyd can be mad, you know, big mad. He can be big mad. He can be big mad. But that youngster is like, yo, nigga, it's my time now. Get out the way.

Stop trying to fuck up my shit. And that might be some fuel for him to come in and say, get your. Get out the way. Stop trying to fuck up my shit. And that might be some fuel for him to come in and say, get your old ass out the way and knock your old ass out. Because the mother niggas couldn't do it. But I'm from Piedmont. I'm going to knock your ass out. That's what I want to see. If there was a fight, to be honest with you.

So get your old ass out the way, killer. I mean, I'm not your son. To answer? No, no, no. To answer your question question everything you're saying is correct but when you sit there

and say you don't want to see people run around and X, Y, Z is Floyd earned that cachet he's not a new boxer it isn't like he

before Oscar De La Hoya Floyd had over a 50, 60% knockout rate if you can't get mad at a nigga who learned the business and says yo I know what I

need to do. I need to just keep winning because people are coming to see me lose. Now you're right. People love to see knockouts. That's what it's about. But Floyd earned that cachet to where he says, yo, listen, I don't got to do all that no more. My goal in life is to keep all my scruples, hit and not get hit, and win the fight. So when you're sitting there saying he needs to get, people want to see knockouts, I'm not disagreeing with that. But I tell you one thing, it won't be one bitch, one nigga, including you, Larry,

that if you hear Floyd is fighting, whether it's, and not these exhibition fights, let's say, for instance, you hear Floyd is fighting Terrence Crawford, everything stops. The bitches, the niggas, wants to fight, booking hotels,

so on and so forth. So you can say he boring as long as you want to say he boring. You hear Floyd fighting Canelo again. Everything stops, nigga. You hear Floyd is motherfucking gonna fight whoever. It stops. He knows that, nigga. So it could be as much as niggas say for the last 10 years Floyd fights is boring, it stops.

You do what you gotta do to get this. You do what you gotta do to pay for that pay-per-view. And it doesn't matter boring or not, you included, Larry, are going to watch the fight. Larry, tell Leonard Ellaby to send him an offer then. Well, yeah, that's what he should do. If he's with GTD, tell him

to send an offer. They really should probably. I mean, from the buzz that we got today, yesterday, I'm telling you, they really probably should should y'all may have really created something here for these two niggas to get in the ring but I don't think Tank would fight him and I don't know I mean

I would rather see Bud fight Floyd I don't know if that's the same way that's not the same way right but I'm just saying I don't know I just listen that is no that is that actually is the same way well listen I see that I don't think I don't I don't think that's a good fight. Yeah, that's not a good fight. I wouldn't do that one.

So, y'all saying Bud couldn't beat him? Or Bud could beat him? No, I'm saying. No, Bud would beat him. Yeah, I think that's a much harder fight to take. Yeah, definitely. I was going to say, yeah, that definitely just, Tank's a little guy. And listen, if Floyd felt like Pacquiao was a little guy,

he really is going to think Tank is a little guy, right? I mean, I agree with that. And I'm not an idiot. I've never bet against Floyd. I've only bet on Floyd. So I ain't an idiot when it comes to this. I get it. But you was talking like you was going to bet against Floyd.

Well, listen, if I'm telling you right now, if those two fight, I would bet tank. I would bet him. I would bet him now. I promise you I would bet him. You know what you do? Send me your money in advance. I'll hold it for you. There's no way.

There's no way. Come on. Listen. Listen, let me no my bad not to cut you off like first of all let's just put this out there that all of this

is the creation of it is what it is this is all hypothetical hypothetical because people get emotional off hypothetical right now

if this happens they're gonna actually go with it yeah listen if we if the fight does happen, I would love to take credit for it and thank you,

but you know, like I've said, Floyd Campbell get emotional with Larry, Floyd Campbell get emotional with me, and Mace is saying, this is all hypothetical, and we are all opinionated. Larry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but just because Mace was making reference to how not just Tank or Doug Floyd, all Tarajans get mad.

Right. I got to watch out for PT now? I got to watch out for PT now. That's why I said, let me be clear. At the end of the day, I revere Floyd as one of the greatest of all time. Why risk it? Why go in there and put 50 and 0 on the line? There's no reason for it.

If you listen to what I said yesterday, I said, keep making your investments. You're making money over there. You don't have to do this no more. You can walk away. Hey, put a Mace Cowboy hat on and walk off into the sunset. It's not a Mace Cowboy hat. It's a Maverick.

No, no, no. Those are the Matadors. They ain't the Mavericks. Come on, man. The Mavericks ain't the Mavericks. Listen, all I'm saying is... Don't even guess him to come in here with a cape like a Matador next. Okay. Let Floyd go off into the sunset, man.

Like, listen, I'm not going to lie to you. Mike Tyson fighting, it hurts me a little bit. It's embarrassing. Don't do that, bro. You're almost 60 years old, fam. Floyd, walk off. Floyd's the greatest. Remain that.

I don't like the way you're telling Floyd to walk off, though. No, walk off. Floyd's the greatest. Remain that. I don't like the way you telling Floyd to walk off, though. It's almost like you like you. Y'all taking it wrong. So I don't get beat up by Floyd's entourage. But what I'm saying is walk off into the sunset. You the champ. The

champ is here. It's over. You won. You make your money. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, nobody said Floyd's going to do this. This is all what me and Mesa are talking about. We asked him, would he fight Adrian Brown? And he said, absolutely not. We don't know if Floyd's going to do this. I wouldn't fight Adrian Brown right now.

But one thing about Floyd. Don't play with AB. AB will see you somewhere, y'all. I just seen him at the Fountain Blue. He was staring me down, too. No lie. Cam, you had another point. You know, first of all,

no, I'm saying, first of all, don't play with A.B. A.B. got them bodies they ain't catching for. Yeah, A.B. still got bricks in the street. Real, don't play with him. Yeah, man, don't play with that nigga, man. That nigga got bodies that he ain't catching for. But yeah, my last point

to this is this. We don't know if Floyd would do this, but what I will say is this. I don't know if Floyd could turn down an advance of $200 million. I don't know about that. I don't know if Floyd could turn down an advance of $200 million. I don't know about that. I don't know if Floyd would turn that advance down. I just don't know.

If y'all somehow made this fight go, they need to give y'all a piece, for real. Because we over here, in our minds, people was hitting me today like they was upset. Like, nigga, you really think Floyd? Like, they really think the fight is going to happen? I was like, yo,all bro. We was, it was, it was speculation. We was,

we was hypothetically talking. It wasn't real. You know what I'm saying? But that's the effect that y'all have. You know what I mean? Okay. So this was a great discussion. This is why I knew it had to be continued into the next episode in the

comments. Definitely let us know what you guys think, but also speaking of boxing. So Jake Paul will face Mike Perry in a match on July 20th. This is the original date set for Tyson versus Paul.

People are saying that this will be Jake Paul's first real dangerous fight. So what do you guys think? Who is Mike Perry? Like what? This ain't Mike Tyson. Niggas just switched the name

just that fast. Mike Perry. We pay for Mike Tyson. Niggas just switched the name just that fast. Mike Perry. We pay for Mike Tyson. No disrespect to Mike Perry, but come on, man. I pay for chicken, not fish, bro. This is not Mike Tyson, man. So he's considered a dangerous combat fighter. He's a bare-knuckle fighter.

So that's why people are like, this is Jake Paul's real fight. Are they fighting bare knuckles, though? They not. So this is, again, a trick because he's always fighting people away from their strengths. That's what I would say to this. And I'm all for Jake Paul because he found a way to milk the system. Pause. Anytime you got the complexion

for, you know, and you done found out the system, you can't knock his hustle, you know? But it would have been much better if he just say, yo, I'm going to fight the Mexican monster next. Yeah, do something like that.

We'll come out and see it. Benavidez, the little brother Benavidez fight, you know? Find somebody on that level to fight. I'm not even mad at that. Hey, Cam, your thoughts? Listen, man. I'm trying to figure out

who the fuck Mike Perry is. He's a bare-knuckle brawler. Yeah. Look, at the end of the day, we sit here, this bare-knuckle shit. Like Mace said, is that his strength?

We sat here and watched Jake Paul beat Nate Diaz. We watched him beat Anderson Silva. These are all MMA fighters. He's obviously having success against MMA fighters. I think he beat three MMA fighters total, if I'm not correct. I know Anderson Silva, he's over the hill. Nate Diaz very well recognized

name, but Dizzee Boxer isn't his forte, and I get it, you know venues probably solidified tickets was probably sold they're probably trying to make up for this money that was spent, but this isn't what we paid to see like look They're probably trying to make up for this money that was spent.

But this isn't what we paid to see. Like, look, this was about to be nigga shit. White party at the house, bitches over, weed, chicken wings, French fries. You know what I'm saying? Ketchup in the dip, smacking ass few singles around in case they got some entertainment in between. This turns into solely no disrespect. White people shit. I'm not paying for that.

I was, you know, we was invited to the fight. I'm not paying for that shit. I'm not. I was paying for him against Mike. I'm not paying a dollar for this fight. Because it's one of them things where murder is one of them things where niggas be like, yo. Yo, you going to Jake Paul against Mike Perry fight tonight?

Word, I don't give a fuck. Jake Paul against Mike Tyson, you're rushing home. You're making sure you're on time. You're making sure niggas call. You ordering the fight tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ordering the fight tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. All right, I'm going to come watch it at your house. Nah, nigga, give me $20.

You know that joint $79. It's all that. Yeah. You know? You turn into a parent consent slip and all that it just totally changed yeah

it totally changed and I'm not interested can't be mad at that because that's honestly what a lot of people are starting to say but I was like maybe they have

a different opinion today that's what people were saying already like people are feeling like this is going to be a dangerous fight for him but from the profiles of the people that I feeling like this is going to be a dangerous fight for him, but from the profiles

of the people that I've seen, they do happen to be white. So, yeah. Okay. So, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss Jason Tatum

and Jalen Brown's rankings. Don't go anywhere. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So we do in WNBA picks tonight. The aces will play the storm. Underdog fantasy has Asia Wilson at 27 and a half points. Ever higher or lower mates?

Lower. She'll have a great game, but I think she's going to be right under that 25. Yeah. Somewhere. I'm going to go lower as well because I actually see her after they lost to the Liberty and at the press conference, she was in tears.

And rightfully so. And her attitude was, it's one thing being the best player in the WNBA, but she's focused on making her team better. And I watched a few of her games this season where she could have just went off and killed the competition, but she's in a position or mind frame right now to where she's saying, I have to get my team better.

It's not about individuality, so I'm going to go lower. But in order for the Aces to win, I have to get my team better. It's not about individuality, so I'm going to go lower. But in order for the Aces to win, my personal opinion is that's what you have to do, focus on individuality. Y'all don't have to chip on your shoulder that y'all did last year. I know you guys don't have your point guard right now because she's out with injury or whatever she's dealing with. But Asia, if y'all want to win, you got to go nuts. Sometimes it's like that, and I get what you're saying.

You're not going to be able to do it by yourself, but when you see shit like this going on and you guys are not at the top of the league, like you were last year, last year, I believe y'all lost one home game and y'all already at three or four home losses. Don't get me wrong, but y'all lost way more games than you did all last season, this season. You're going to have to go nuts.

But right now, I'm going to say lower until she hits that mind frame. Okay. Kelsey Plum is at seven rebounds and assists. Do you have her higher or lower, Cam? Higher.

Higher. Okay, and Jewel Lloyd is at five first quarter points. Do you have her higher or lower, Mace? I'm going to go higher. Hey, Cam. I'm going to go lower. Okay.

Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. So after winning a chip among top five players in the league right now, do you guys believe Jason Tatum or jalen brown makes that list well you know for me you know i'm gonna say yes one of them do make that list i i think as they won the championship you gotta put one of them in that list it's just a matter of who you want to put in that list especially if they went on the highest level and and one of them in that list. It's just a matter of who you want to put in that list, especially if they went on the highest level and both of them showed up. But for me, I'm going to put Jalen Brown in that top five list

because he showed up on every level of the playoffs and superstars are made based upon the playoffs. I heard Killer say that. I heard Bob Cousy say it. Killer, you're in good company. You said the same thing as Bob Cousy. And I put him right there with the Joker, as crazy as it sounds, Giannis, Embiid. I know some people will have KD there.

I'm not mad at that. But I think what he was able to do against Luka, this puts him over Luka. But you know who I would put in my top five for real after watching the playoffs? I'm going to go with new hotness. I got to bring up somebody. Jalen Brunson. I got to put him in the top five.

Boy, nice. Sing gonna love this. Sing gonna love this. New hotness. It's a coin toss for me. I wouldn't be mad if Jason Tatum is there or Jalen Brown. Both of them, it's hard to say. I wouldn't put both of them there.

But if you put Jalen Brunson there, fine. If Jason Tatum there, it's fine. Absolutely. I'm not mad at the top five list that the NBA came up with this year it's one of them situations where styles make fights yesterday we talked about this when we were evaluating

the championship and I want to give a big shout out before I continue my statement on this topic right here to Brad Stevens because we didn't talk about Brad Stevens yesterday at all, but what he did as a GM, a lot of people were crucifying him at the beginning of the season saying, why did you get rid of Marcus Smart? He's the heart of the team. Why did you get rid of Williams? He gets all the rebounds. He hustles. And we were saying that, damn, these are big losses for the Boston Celtics.

We don't know where they'll end up at the end of the year. And they had a tremendous year from beginning to end. And as great as the players was, as great as the coaching is, you have to think about the people that put the players on the team together. So I want to give Brad Stevens a lot of credit for putting that team together. That's first and foremost. Back to the original topic. It's according to us.

If you have Jalen Brown there, I'm not mad at it. If you have Jason Tatum there, I'm not mad at it. If we think about Boston's run through this championship, Dallas was just a terrible matchup for them. Terrible matchup. And Styles make fights, which I alluded to yesterday. But let's think about this uh do we think that boston would beat miami if jimmy butler wasn't playing they haven't been doing it for the

last couple years when jimmy butler plays against boston it's a different story so you played against miami a jimmy butler is a miami with no jim no Jimmy Butler on the team. Let's get to the next round. You go to the next round. You play Cleveland with Donovan Mitchell sitting out for half the series. He doesn't play half the series. You get to the next round. You play against Indiana Pacers.

Halliburton, he's injured. He doesn't play half the series. Your road to the championship was fairly easy, and I'm not discrediting. I'm not saying that if all those players I named would be playing, y'all wouldn't have won. But you had a fairly easy road to the championship. Now let's get to Dallas. Dallas was just a terrible matchup for these guys.

Kyrie was undersized, dealing with whether it was Drew Holiday, whether it was Jason Tatum, whether it was Jalen Brown. Luka was way too slow to deal with Jalen Brown bringing the ball up the court. What Jason Kidd should have done from the jump is say, Luka, go up the court, let Kyrie bring the ball up the court because he was getting his pockets picked. It would take time off the shot clock to run your offense. And if Kyrie brought the ball up, you can at least run into your offense. It was a terrible matchup. Joe Mazzulla did a great job coaching.

Jalen Brown and the rest of the team did a great job on defense. Now back to who should be in the top five. The reason I say it could be anybody. Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown did a

great job throughout that series. But if we want to pick an MVP per game, we can give the first game to Porzingis. We can give the second game to Drew Holiday. We can give the third game to Jalen Brown. We can give the fourth game to Jason Tatum or the, or the wins, the wins I should say, because they did lose a game. All those games that I just named it, they won.

It was a different hero every game, because they did lose a game. All those games that I just named that they won, it was a different hero every game. Not to mention Derek White, defensive prowess, knocking down key shots, Al Hoffert wanting it as much as they want. So this is a complete team that we're talking about when it comes to the Boston Celtics. But if we're going game by game and giving out the game ball to somebody each and every win, it was a different person each game.

So I'm not mad if it's Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown, but I think Jalen Brown was very, very much deserving of the MVP throughout the playoffs. Last two years, we were saying he doesn't have a left hand. He couldn't go left. He improved on that department tremendously. But it's a coin toss for me. I'm not putting both of them in there.

But if you have one of the other cool, and because Luka had a bad series, I'm not going to do that to Luka as well. Same thing with Kyrie. It just wasn't a good matchup for them. And they need to figure that out moving forward. Because the way that Boston Celtics played against the Dallas Mavericks is theics played against the Dallas Mavericks

is the key to beat the Dallas Mavericks. Teams are watching, especially in the Western Conference. Okay. In the comments, let us know what you guys think. And then also concerning around Jason Tatum. So after video footage of her at a party surfaced online after the finals,

Ella Mai is now facing pregnancy rumors so she was wearing Jason Tatum's jersey with a baby bump obviously nothing has been officially confirmed by either of the two but what do you guys think of the news what do you mean by officially facing rumors like it's no like I said it wasn't officially confirmed. So like this is based off of pictures but neither of the two have stated said anything about it. So like expecting that privacy but like we see the pictures. If she's

pregnant with a Tatum jersey then she's pregnant by Tatum right? Yes. But she ain't confirm it so I have to make that clear. Well she wasn't pregnant with a john morant jersey on was she did you do she got any pictures with john morant jersey no and it's tatum i just want to make that clear like she didn't't say it. This is the pictures that I seen.

So I had to respect that. That's who she's, she's been at the games with, with Tatum. Well, she's been at the games, but not necessarily with him. They've just been spotted.

So like, this is it being said without it being confirmed. So how do I feel about what's not confirmed it's confirmed not by them two basically yes why do I have to feel a way about it do you have to feel a way no I mean I mean singers get pregnant by basketball players all the time. You know, this is not a new thing. Status X and how do we feel about it? Yeah, that's news. Like, that's actually big news right now.

That's actually good, though. They actually look like they're in the same family. They should make a really good-looking baby, right? They look kind of like the same people. And Cam, yesterday I told Cam, I meant to say DM, Cam. That's what I meant

to say yesterday. I didn't have a text with Jason Tatum. It was a DM. Jason Tatum DM. So why were you looking through your Texas? Why did you say you can't show his name? Stop lying, Maslow.

Yo, Maslow, cut it out, man. Because when I asked you to show it, you said, oh, I can't show his name. Was it a text? Or was it a DM? You could have showed his name. You're fucking with the DA. I'm not even the DA. I'm fucking with Shapiro. I'm a paid lawyer, brother.

I just said you, DA. Yeah, that's how I felt. That's how I felt. You said that's what I wanted to say's how I feel. I couldn't say it. You said, yeah, exactly. You was acting like the DA. I'm glad I heard it. Nick, keep that clip that he said he's the DA. Because I need to have that.

Because this is how I feel when I'm talking to him. He's very interrogating, you know? So I don't know what I can say or what I can't say. So I have to figure out ways to say it. Yo, listen, first of all, all the reason I did that is because you was questioning me about being with Jerry West. So now everything gets questioned from here on out. Secondly, your stat. The nigga said, I don't want to show his phone number.

So I'm not going to show the text. If it's a DM, why would you be worried about showing his phone number? Maslow. I'm going to show it. When you get caught out there, you're Maslow. Y'all don't know Maslow, people out here. This is 11th grade, based with Maslow. That was his name.

Maslow. That was his name. Whenever you get caught capping, whenever you get caught capping, your name is Maslow. They was trying to turn me Muslim. And then he came to pick me up one day.

It was like Maslow coming. Names was Maslow for a week When he's trying to figure He said that's not Mason It's the white man I didn't want to tell the whole story But since you told me Niggas told Mason

Mason's the white man's name Your name is Maslow Whenever you get caught camping Maslow That's exactly when I'm going to call you Oh that was crazy That was crazy Man it was Maslow for a week

Me and my nigga Dagger was pissed off Yo who was Maslow for a week me and my nigga Dagger was pissed off yo who is Maslow look back to your question let me ask two things to say about this the first thing I have to say is this is that first baby that Jason Tatum be bringing out they baby? What?

What? His son. Jason Tatum be having his son. He have his son at the game. Is that MLA baby? That's her baby? No, no, no. Okay, that's the first question.

That's A. All right. Secondly, I just wanted to know that. Secondly, what I'll say is this. The timing is so perfect. You had that baby bump before they won. This is the same as you baby bumping it. You ain't posted after the Indiana series.

You ain't posted after. Don't act like it just came out. Right after the championship, that's back off, bitches. That's what I get from it. Bitches, back off. That's my baby father. And that's that. It's mighty convenient how that picture came out right after the championship was won.

Back up, bitches. I'm fucking this light-skinned nigga with the nice hair. And that's my new baby daddy. This is not coincidental. So mates don't feel a way. That's how I feel. I feel like, nigga, I ain't posting it if niggas don't win. I'll fuck with the winners.

You been trying to do this for five joints. She the real title town murder. fuck with the winners. You've been trying to do this for five joints. She's the real title town mother. You get the title town, we'll start talking about shit. Until you get the title town, it's slow. Yo, that's crazy.

Shout out to Tatum. Shout out to St. Louis. Everybody in St. Louis. Nellyville. Everybody. LMA. Title town. LMA, Titletown. LMA been in Titletown waiting on Nick. Yeah. I'm good. Yes, well, again, I know it's not confirmed,

but congratulations to both of them. I think that's dope. Yeah, my baby is a champion. Okay, so. Yeah, congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah, and then this will probably be the last topic before we wrap. So Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin signed an extension through 2027,

making him the NFL's longest active tenured head coach. Do you guys believe that this was a good move by the Steelers? This is y'all's topic. I don't really deal with the Steelers. Killers on you. And Stat, Stat, what do you think really deal with the Steelers um killers on you and stat stat what do you think you're still a fan you tell us you want me to go first or can you go first you go first okay I think this is a great decision I mean the Steelers are known for you know having the same type of people around this is the third know, head coach that we've had over the years that we've had coaches.

I think Mike Tomlin is great for us. Like, I mean, we had a winning record. I know people are like, we want to make playoff wins. We have time to do that. We have a better own line right now. Now we got to work with Russell Wilson, Justin Fields. I mean, we can build off of him later in the future. I think that this is a great new beginning opportunity.

We've made a lot of, you know, changes within our team. I think this is his time because a lot of people were trying to say, oh, we need to get rid of Mike Tomlin. Like he's not winning. So we made some changes within the team.

This is his time to prove that he is a good coach. I'm never going to say that he's not. And for the people who say that he's not, y'all are capping because he's a great coach. And I'm excited.

I think this is perfect. I think that he should be extended and I think it's well-deserved. But what was the money amount? It doesn't say. I don't have the exact money amount. Yeah, I can't really talk about it without the money amount. They gave him an extension pause, but they didn't say the money amount. I can't say how I really feel about that.

I can't say how I really feel about that. So there are speculations reported at up to $19 million more per year, but that's not confirmed. That's what it's saying. So I don't know if that's confirmed, but that's what I see. Now, if it's $19 million more, shout out to Mike. It seems like a lot is going on with mics these days. Mike Tyson, Mike Perry, Mike Tomlin.

The ear of the mics. Not the ear of the Wendels. Wendels. So, yeah. Oh, man. This is interesting. Yeah. But I think it's great.

I think this is dope. I think that this is a great decision to build off of what we already have. Like I say, if it ain't broke, don't try to go fixing it. We have a formula there. Let's build off of that. We got some new players. An extra 19? An extra 19, though?

Is it a year or over the three years? It said, this is a report. I don't have the confirmed number, but it was saying an extra $19 million over per year. So until 2027. Allegedly. Allegedly. Cite your sources. Who's your source? Well, that's what I'm saying. There is no... You went to school for journalism. Why don't you cite

your source? So that's the thing. There's no exact extension. So these are like... So this report could be from the barbershop. That's why I said allegedly. If you realize i never give exact numbers if i don't have a clear cut y'all be thinking i'm trying to joke i'm not really joking this this gonna came from the laundromat we don't know where you getting this from i didn't i told you I didn't have an exact confirmation

so that's. Let me get a number two fade. Yeah. You heard Mike at 19. Yeah. Statue's passing. Statue passing cookies from,

If you ask me a question I gotta give you an answer but like, make it clear, even with the practicing rumors that it was not confirmed by either of the two so I gotta just put that out there I make it clear even with the practicing rumors that it was not confirmed by either of the two. So I gotta just put that out there.

Yeah. I'm excited. Keller, go ahead. You can talk about this. There's news from the laundry, Matt. The stat is pulling up. The news is real just not the dollar amount.

This is really real. This is happening. It's not the dollar amount. Pam. Well, yeah. Well, more than anything, before I get to Mike's contract, what's making me more mad than anything is that Stack keeps saying we when she had a Baltimore Ravens jersey on. Until you show some stilts or anything like that,

I'm with your father. I don't approve of what you were wearing, anything like that. Please don't say we when it comes to the Steelers. Please don't say we when it comes to Miami Heat. You come in and work with a green blouse on the day after Boston wins the championship. I don't want to hear we about anything anymore when it comes to the Miami Heat or the Pittsburgh Steelers until further notice. Thank you very much. I'll start with that.

Secondly, I think it's well-deserved for Mike T. A lot of times he hasn't won a championship in years, but he hasn't had to lose a record since he's been there. It's hard to find good coaches. What you don't want to do is let Mike Tomlinson go. He goes somewhere else and has success. Then you feel like shit because you're just saying you think it's time for a change. It's not easy to have a winning record for as long as 10 years.

Man with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's some new blood in there. And what happens, you have to realize easy. Coming behind a Ben Roethlisberger. Hall of Fame quarterback, two Super Bowl championships, one of them with Mike. So it's not easy. It's not easy to win a Super Bowl.

And we got to think about how many people won Super Bowls in the last 25 years, whether it's Tom Brady with multiple Super Bowl championships, Russell Wilson has two, Peyton Manning has two, Eli Manning has two. It's probably about 10, 12 quarterbacks maybe in the last 25 years who's won Super Bowls. And that's the key thing is having a great quarterback. And right now he has two great quarterbacks to work with,

and he's going to see what he can do in the next couple years now if nothing happens in the next few years um then i think they'll revisit him being steelers head coach but i think it's a great extension to see what he can get done with these two quarterbacks he has that was a great take, Cameron and Ezekiel. That was great. And a great black and yellow tie for the Steelers. What a great way to end the episode. First of all. He doesn't have on a black and gold tie. It looks like it to me.

That's the colors I see. Yeah. Yo, Murda. Yo, murder. Mm-hmm. Yo, murder. Yeah. Murder. Can you hear me?

Yeah, I can hear you. We can hear you. Murder. Don't. I put Cam on ice. That's the end of the show. This is glitching in my paper. That's wrong. Go ahead.

Go ahead, Stat. I put Cam on ice. That's wrong. My middle name is not Ezekiel. You should know my middle name. What's My middle name is not Ezekiel. You should know my middle name. What's his middle name? No, you supposed to keep it, Nick. Keep him

froze. Keep him froze for the show. Hey, that is all the time that we have for today. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. I put him on ice. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersize Two big necks

Like when they doing them two for five