IT IS WHAT IT IS - RYAN GARCIA CROSSED THE LINE & BRONNY JAMES NEEDS TO COME WITH US TO HARLEM! | S4 EP 55

Episode Date: September 15, 2024

Hey Michelle, I heard they ballin' up in Harlem. That's what they doin'? As they should be. Well, you are the queen of Harlem. You know who the king is. That's not self-proclaimed, neither. Mind if I give you some halftime music, though? Come on.

I wish Al B was alive for this shit right here. Now lately, I've been doin' my own thing. But I come right around with the pair I'll clown and be on get at you mom style whack you pause round of applause and other words clap you Kelsey from my homes homes we gonna catch you this actual matter fact is factual put it in the capsule now I'm gonna ask you put your brains on the floor From the floor we'll laugh and say that's

Good for you It's a lesson consider it a blessing I had fire way before confessions Now look here I'ma ask you one question Tell me if you want me to Yeah And you crazy If you could sleep on this

At your funeral your girl lit the casket Lean and give you that You're not the first one To make me feel like this And with the scope on the pump, when I dump, I tell you I can't miss, no, no Enough of that, oh how he get his melon cracked His girlfriend had him out to sell and crack

Took all the profit, dreamed she would sell him that Walked all over him, the nigga was a welcome mat Nobody gonna tell him that If he raise his voice, she would say who he yellin' at The sunken place, he fell in that I don't wanna stall him, I wanna call him Tell me if you want me to I don't waste time, hit them right on FaceTime

Laugh and say that's good for you Keep it G now, she with me now With him she was so bored But girl, I wanna go raw Tell me if you want me to Sweetheart, now it's time I let you go, I don't wanna rush you, we out, I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back, but no confusion, it's a reunion, hello y'all, welcome back, get murdered here, he counting money, he said, can't man

the hell we're at, I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches, welcome ass, I Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $250 in bonus cash with your first deposit and show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the underdog fantasy app use code mace cam or stat

to get up to 250 in bonus cash with your first deposit and a special pick it's the easiest way to win on underdog i'm treasure wilson aka stat baby along with your host mace and cam killer what's good man i'm dressed back to business yeah you back to business. Yeah, you back to business. I'm glad you made it back. Good. I'm not here to play any games. Me neither. Good. I'm excited.

I'm dressed like the expert again. I got my lapel pins. Yeah. I'm ready for war. This is Desert Storm. You ever got one of these? What's that? The Desert Storm.

Decorated. When you got that down your Spanish class? Are you still a pescatarian? I've done a lot of things when I wasn't around here, you know? Are you still a pescatarian? Cam, stick with this show, man. It was part of the show. Are you still a pescatarian?

Yeah, pescatarian. Still? Yeah. They seeked you out. Do you want me to... I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you.

I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. I got niggas following you. You're still a pescatarian. Yeah, pescatarian. Still? Yeah. They sent you out. Do you want me to?

I got niggas following you. Do you want to stand by that? Do you want to stand by that you're a pescatarian? Yes or no? Let me know. What's pescatarian? You told me. What's pescatarian?

I think they say fish. think that you said fish. That's what you said. Fish and what else? It's not chicken. Oh, I thought chicken was a part. They fooled me there. I think you like the word canarian, like veterinarian. Like that's what you said.

You might as well be a veterinarian. You was a pescatarian, a vegetarian, now you a veterinarian. I think you like, so they fooled you and said you took off. Yeah, they told me that. All right, let me put my phone away. All right, cool. Because you, people watch the show and they taking pictures of you when you out. I'm just telling you that right now.

They taking pictures and talking about, okay, ain't no damn pescatarian. I said. Nigg just telling you that right now. They taking pictures and talking about carrying no damn pescetarian line. Niggas is suckers, yo. Niggas is suckers. I ain't gonna lie. Niggas is definitely suckers. At least they keeping us accountable. Yeah, that's a fact.

Because they sent me pictures of that, but I ain't gonna bring it up. Oh, yeah? I can imagine. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine too. I can imagine. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine, too. I can imagine. In my business. Okay, let's get started.

So the Sacramento Kings acquired free agent DeMar DeRozan in a three-year, $74 million sign-and-trade deal. Do you guys believe that this team will be a good fit for him? Yeah, I think when it comes to sacramento you're looking at you're looking at a team that has always been like one piece away from really making some noise it seemed like they were able to push a championship golden state team all the way to to its limits when they just had when they had the team that they have now. So when you add in a person like DeMar DeRozan,

who is on the clock to win, this becomes a really interesting team. I don't want to say sensational. I don't want to say championship-bound. But it definitely gives them more legs, paws to stand on. When you think of everything else they are, they're still keeping Monk. They're still keeping Fox. So when you look at that on the perimeter, that's a nightmare to anybody because everybody on the wings or on the perimeter is very athletic.

And to win in this league, you have to have great perimeter play, and you got to have a pretty – it used to be you have to have a big man, but it seemed like it's going back to that when you see Porzingis, you see – what's his name? Jalen Brown, Drew Holiday, White. I'm not trying to leave his name in the potato. In that particular team, this is that type of team that can match up with them. If they had a big man, they're perfect in matchup.

So, you know, it seemed like everybody's shooting for Boston. And if you're shooting to try to compete against Boston, this was definitely an upgrade to their roster. Not sure what's happening with, what's his name, Harrison, Harrison Barnes, but this is definitely an upgrade. He's part of the trade. He's not there no more. Oh, yeah, this is definitely an upgrade.

I think it's cool. Me, personally, I would have liked if he really wanted to compete for a championship. Me, personally, I would have thought he might have went to Milwaukee or to Denver. Sacramento, even though they was hurt last year, it seemed like they took a step back from the year before. And Monk was hurt.

We're not going to act like Monk isn't a big part of the Kings, but just as a team, it seemed like they took a step backwards. And I'm not liking where they were at finishing the season last season. Is DeMar DeRozan an upgrade from Harrison Mars? I would say, yeah. He's a scorer. He can go get a basket. Very durable.

He's going to be there for the majority of the season. If he misses any games, he's not trying to take days off. But as far as competing in the West Coast, I don't see this, let alone thinking about Boston, thinking about OKC, thinking about Denver, thinking about the Dallas Mavericks, maybe the Lakers. I don't even think they, if a healthy New Orleans,

I wouldn't put them above a healthy New Orleans, especially with Murray getting there, Zion's healthy, but that's the problem with New Orleans. They're never healthy. So everything that I'm stating now is based upon health. But I would have liked it better if he went to Milwaukee or Denver. With Denver, I don't know who the owner is off the top of my head, but you're going to have to spend some money, nigga.

You're going to have to spend a couple dollars. You're letting niggas go. I get it. You probably don't want to go on a luxury tax. You're going to have to pay Jokic. You're going to have to pay. Just read up on Jamal Murray. I get it.

You still have Aaron Gordon. You still have Michael Porter Jr. But you let two key pieces of your championship team go with Bruce Brown and Caldwell Pope. They was a big part of that championship team, and I thought that DeMar DeRozan could fill in that space that one of them two had left, and that may not have been enough

because we see it wasn't enough without Bruce Brown last season. Then I was thinking about, you know, a lot of people are saying, you know, DeMars from L.A. You wanted to go back to California. Yeah, you know, Sacramento's not around the corner from L.A. It's a five-, six-hour drive, maybe a 45-minute flight. But people were talking about, damn it, I wish he went to the Lakers or maybe the Clippers.

They're seeing him in the Kendrick video, et cetera, et cetera. Seriously, so he on this West Coast shit. That's why I figured he went to Sacramento because I'm thinking, you know, thinking with the Lakers, as much as we praise Rich Paul and LeBron James for doing what they're doing, it may be a turnoff to some players. It may be like, yo, we don't need this. We got Rich Paul and LeBron running. We can't listen to what Jeannie Bussard said. We can't listen to Rob

Palenka. Because they listening to LeBron and Rich Paul. When you tell them other owners don't touch a player, and they don't touch a player, and then you tell the Lakers draft Bronny, and they do it, and you tell the Lakers, LeBron needs this for two years or three years or whatever, then they give it to him. And then you get Anthony Davis. I know it's been over about a half a decade since he's been there. It looks like they're running the organization. And to some players, that may be a turnoff

because if I got to go to management and talk about anything, it may not go in their head. It may be it don't matter what you talk to Rob Palenka about. Because if LeBron don't okay it, he doesn't okay it. So I wouldn't have went to the Lakers. I get that. I'm not saying his mind's state. I'm just saying how some players may think.

We look at the LA Clippers, it's a damn mess over there. The best thing they got is that new stadium that Barmer is building. Very dysfunctional. I wouldn't have went there. If you want to stay in the california stay in the state of california i believe to me right now at this current moment that would be the best bet for demar de rosa if that was your thought process i don't have any idea what his thought process was but that probably be the best option for him at this state in his career

yeah one of the sources um for for people that have insight on the lakers said that one of the reasons why people didn't go to the lakers they said because there's no upside if if something goes wrong the the credit comes to them and if if they win the credit goes to lebron they was like so that that's what turned a few um free agents off going there. They feel like if they win, LeBron looks like the genius. If they lose, they become their scapegoat for what didn't go well. Yeah, and not only that, and I don't think LeBron does this on purpose. It's just, you know, when he freelances and he talks, and especially on his podcast, and I never had any idea about it

until I seen people put snippets together on social media or YouTube or so on and so forth of LeBron talking about former teams that didn't win when he says, well, we just didn't have the right pieces or we didn't have this momentum or this or this coach wasn't right, whatever he said. And then they compare it to what michael jordan says or kobe bryant says the way they put it together of course you can edit things how you want but it makes like when you put a clip out like that

lebron not taking accountability so uh so to speak and then you got him comparing with parmy comparing them with the greats such as kobe b and Michael Jordan. And they're doing interviews saying, it starts with me, it's my fault. This was my problem. We can't blame it on anybody else. And then you go to the next clip, and it's LeBron saying, we didn't have the right pieces.

We didn't have the right team. It looks like he's not taking accountability. So that may turn players off as well. Okay, so Buddy Heal joins the Warriors as part of the first 16 trade in nba history he's reportedly signing a two-year 21 million dollar guaranteed deal do you think that buddy was an addition that the warriors needed nah nah shout outs to golden state shout out to buddy hill but for what buddy hill hasn't done Nah, shout-outs to Golden State. Shout-out to Buddy Hill.

But for what? Buddy Hill hasn't done nothing to be giving them shout-outs. Like, nah, when he came from college, I thought he was going to be one of those guys. Something happened. Buddy Hill, if you're watching this, you let us down. We was rooting for you in the barbershop. We thought when you got the number 24, you was about to play like Kobe. I remember that.

I was like, yo, he's going to be dead nice. And then he went there and then he ends up on Golden State. I don't know what Golden State is thinking. He's not Klay Thompson. I hope that's not what they're thinking. They got a young Splash, brother. I hope that's not what they're thinking. They got a young splash, brother. And I don't mean to sound like killer if I'm going too crazy on you,

Paul's buddy here, but you got to show up, especially with Klay leaving and now you're in Klay's spot. There's a lot riding on this. Paul's for real. You can't just go there and do what you did in Philly or do what you did in Indiana. You really got to show up. This is this is going to be my CTV because once once Steph got the ball and he gives it up, they know Steph is going to hit a three. So if he pass it, it's going to start to look like why you passed him the ball.

You know what I'm saying so Buddy Hill you gotta you gotta really show up and I'm not talking about 14 points and I know Steve Kerr telling you to play a role but listen you gotta be out of this world when you get to Golden State they they're used to championships and I have nothing against you just as a a basketball purist, they broke up a dynasty. This is how it looks to me. They broke up a dynasty for you. Even though it's not on you, that's what it seems like. And you're going to have to fill those shoes really, really fast.

You don't have two years to play lackluster. This is Golden State. And last year, they didn't make the playoffs. So I think it's it's an enormous task and i don't think he's up for it and i'm very optimistic you know i'm i'm very optimistic but i don't think he's up for it there's no signs to say that golden state will be any better than last year so you feel like like Buddy Heald isn't a game changer? They only gave him $21 million.

He's not a game changer. When somebody's a game changer, you pay them game changer money, right? I mean, you double Bronny's salary is almost his salary. That shouldn't be the case, right? Come on now. And shout out to brawny first thing i would say to mace if i'm buddy hill is they didn't break it up for me shit was broke up already before before i got here so don't even try that mace don't try and act like that's how it's gonna come if i'm buddy here and i'm not here what you say first thing i'm saying is don't try that and put the onus on me.

Shit was broken up. Niggas ain't been fucking with niggas for like a year now. They been trading them two weeks ago. Now it's on me, murder? Nah, I'm not riding with that, of course. If I'm Buddy Hill, that's what I'm going to reply to you. Don't talk about they broke it up for me. No, they did not.

Nigga K. Thompson been mad at the organization and all that. That's first and foremost. Back to besides that part when May said, yeah, listen, Buddy Hill ain't the answer. One thing that I will give Buddy Hill is this. He's like. You call the nigga Buddy Hill. That tell you he ain't. Betty Hill. That tell you.

Exactly. Whatever. Thank you. That up, buddy. Whatever. I don't even like calling a nigga buddy. Yo, buddy. I ain't with all that.

Pause. I don't really like to, you know what I mean? You ain't my buddy, no. See what happened last time they called me buddy. Pause. She got dangerous. But on a serious note, like, one thing that I'll say about Buddy Hill is that, to me, he's not like this player.

He was lights out in college, and a lot of people don't know that. He got an extra year in college, so he's killing young niggas. Yeah, that helped him. He was all right when he first got to the NBA. The last scene we have from Buddy Hill on the eye test is him missing the last shot in the playoffs against the Knicks fucking season up. I don't know why he took that last shot.

That was not your place to take that last shot. That's the last thing I remember, seeing Buddy hill and yelling at the tv because not saying i didn't want the knicks to win over philly it was more that i want to see another game because that series was so that series was so exciting and this nigga takes the last shot wow but what i will say is uh what i will say is this and i'm not comparing him to him but he has that type of game if he gets in the right system.

If he gets the encouragement from Steve Kerr, Steph Curry, Draymond Green, that he could be a lower level J.R. Smith. He's streaky. He can get hot. And I haven't seen it from him in a while, but I did see him. He's one of them people that can hit four or five threes in a game if he gets hot, if he has the confidence, if he's believing in himself. And that's the right team to do that. But if you fuck up, like Mace said, they used the championships,

a lot of shit they didn't tolerate. I could imagine, I could just imagine the shit that they used to say behind Chris Paul back last season. You feel me, Pete? Yeah. Yo. We ain't never been in this level. Yeah, I ain't seen him look this bad ever. That's when we get him.

We get him like, Chris, what up? Shit. And I think Chris Paul will redeem himself this year at San Antonio. I just think it wasn't a fit for him. But that's situations. Will Buddy Hill make a difference? Maybe. Listen, man.

The problem is this. We watched the dynasty get built to go to state. So anything underneath a dynasty, for this core, I'm talking about Draymond and Steph and Steve Kerr, now that Klay is gone, is unacceptable not making the Western Conference Finals for what we're used to. You know, we had this conversation going into the playoffs last year. Are we going to, and even throughout the season, are we going to get familiar with the new faces or are we going to miss the old faces?

And Clay Thompson, I'll say Clay Thompson, Steph Curry and Draymond Green, Steve Kerr included, they did not make the playoffs, which was unusual. We wasn't used to seeing it. They didn't even get into the fucking playing. So is Buddy Hill the savior? No. Who the other nigga last week we was talking about went over?

Yeah, Cal. Cal and Buddy. Yeah. Cal Anderson. Yeah. You put it that way. Cal and Buddy. It sounded like Kenan and the other nigga.

Kenan and Cal. Yeah, Kenan and Cal. Cal and Buddy. No, I don't think this would make a difference in the Stack Western Conference. But congratulations, man. You're still playing. You're still an asset. Somebody still wants you.

It always feels good to be wanted. Does this change the dynamic of the Golden State Warriors? Absolutely not. I'll straight to both of them for their names. Okay, and then before we go to break, from what we've seen so far in free agency, last episode we talked about teams that we felt like made good trades. Who do we feel like is lacking and needs to urgently be doing something to help their team?

Still early, but want to know you guys' thoughts. Well, you have Philadelphia. Philadelphia landed Paul George. You have the Knicks land Mikel Bridges. All of those is excellent. They're at the top of what people were doing during this whole entire time of just being in this free agency. Then you have the Atlanta Hawks.

They bust the move by sending Murray to the Pelicans. I think that is the sleeper of the best trades out of all of them that went for it. But then you got stuff like Cal. You got stuff like Buddy Hill. And I think in this free agency, the team that lost the most was the Lakers for some reason. And I'm not against the Lakers, but it seemed like when we were thinking free agency, we were thinking all these players they could get,

like Murray, like DeMar. Who else they were supposed to get, huh? Clay. These are all of the things we're thinking is about to happen. All the Lakers about to bust one of these moves. And then they didn't. It seemed like they just put all of the focus on, on that legacy piece that they were doing.

And I think they, they really, really missed out. Um, even though they got some great young talent on that team. One thing about this Bronny situation made me zoom in on the Lakers and really look at the team, and I'm really, really looking forward, pause, to Doug Christie's son on the Lakers. If they give him some light, he could really do something. He reminded me a lot of that kid that they had at Portland that started going crazy.

The two guard that they traded McCollum for. Yeah, you're talking about Max Christie. Max Christie. Yeah. Max Christie. How tall is he? I just know he was going crazy. And I was like, who is this?

And then I looked it up. Yeah. Yeah. He looked like he could do something. Yeah. I do have a question for you because the comments were asking about Doug Christie. What about it? Because I don't, just to clarify, I'm not for sure that's his father.

Oh. Yeah. My bad. They kept wondering who Doug was. I don't, just to clarify, I'm not for sure that's his father, but. Oh. Yeah. My bad. They kept wondering who Doug was. So, like, that's why I had to ask you. Yeah, I just assumed that because it said Max Christie. The Christie, yeah. He looked like he had, you know, curly hair.

It looked like it could have been Doug Christie's son. So, pardon me if it's not, you know. Yeah. The exact question is who's not doing well? Yeah, who do you think is lucky? That's very easy for me. The Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah.

The Milwaukee Bucks. Ain't going to stay. You had your go. Ain't going to stay. You had a whole go, bro. Oh, my. Ah, murder. Yeah. You had a whole go, bro. Oh, my God, Murda. Yeah. You didn't say yeah.

You did not say the box. God. Killer, I was agreeing with you. I wasn't saying it was my choice. I'm agreeing with you. We on the same panel. You never answered our question. I did.

You went around the world. Who's the team? I said the Lakers. Okay, you're going Who's the team? I said the Lakers. Okay, you're going with the Lakers. That was good. I like the Lakers. For me, I'm going to go with the Milwaukee Bucks. And go to the States is a good answer as well.

Yeah. Because they lost a fucking key player, a nigga who averaged 18 points. The niggas considered that a bad season. I'm going to go with the Milwaukee Bucks. This is a team that won a championship a few years ago that was still a number one team in the East predictably last year. I remember me and Mace were talking about Milwaukee

and possibly Phoenix, if not Denver. Mace was the Doug Bucks. Everything is family up there in Milwaukee. The congregation, the Mr. Family. She gave him a shout-out murder. DJ Hines. Mace was the Doug Bucks everything is family up there in Milwaukee the congregation the Mr. Family, she gave him a shout out murder DJ Hans the Hans family you know what I'm saying

they was on the rise to where we were like Milwaukee Milwaukee, Milwaukee and this past post season not just the post season, the regular season Damian Lillard might have been going through something personal, which is true, but his play

seemed like, damn, they shouldn't have got rid of Drew Holiday. That's what you got when you watched that. He said when he comes this season, you'll see the difference because he'll have his mind right. Cool. The Greek freak, nobody's scared of him or, I'm not saying niggas scare them,

but he's not respected as he once was respected. I'm not saying that you shouldn't respect him because he's still a problem. But they're like, man, we figured that nigga out, man. Just collapse on that nigga. He ain't going to do but so much. He get to the foul line, do the one spin. Nah, we call the offense.

Fuck all that. Chris Middleton has not been playing the way Chris Middleton has usually played. The Greek freak was hurt again in the playoffs last season. Dame Lillard got hurt again in the playoffs last season, and we seem to forget about him. Now, with the acquisition of Paul George to the 76ers, Mikael Bridges to the New York Knicks,

and Boston win the championship, we are now looking at a Milwaukee Bucks who's fourth in the East. This was a team last season before the season started. We were saying that we think they're going to win the East. Right now, presently today, they are fourth in the East. And before Paul George came, Paul George, the Sixers were third, the Knicks were second. Now the Sixers have moved to the second favorite, Knicks are third,

and the Milwaukee Bucks are fourth. Let's think about this. It's a New York Knicks team. Now they still haven't got to the conference final, but it's a lot of hope after last season. The New York Knicks, besides, and I'm not counting Jeremy Lin, besides a real superstar, haven't had a superstar since Carmelo Anthony. And the way they love

Jalen Brunson is ridiculous in New York. They love him. Not only that, they love his teammates. So now, you know, everybody I speak to in New New York game, nigga, we got the killer Novas, nigga. This down, no, Thriller Nova, all this crazy Thriller Nova, Killer Nova, it's what they going around saying. Yo, Nick, look, look at my nigga Nick. He over there hype about this. Nick fired up. I say, listen, listen.

To the next year, I said, I get it. I understand. I said, but you have to realize, and I know y'all was hurt last year, didn't do anything. And they don't want to hear it. I'm just telling you, you didn't do anything last year

that you didn't do the year before. Yes, we did. We came in second, nigga. We was in second. We finished second, nigga. I said, that's seeding. You didn't finish first, but great. You finished second.

That's for your seeding in the playoffs to get to the same place you was at the year before. Killer, you hate it. I said, I'm just telling you what happened. Nah, you don't fuck with us. You don't fuck with us. The nigga sin. He goes to my mom's grave site the other day.

He sends me a video yeah you know what we on he got orange and blue flowers at the gravesite thank you sin i know you love my mother like she was your mother but relax relax no that was her team from 19 y'all niggas it's wild out there man y'all got to calm the fuck down, B. I said it's July. Y'all niggas. You tried to reel you in with blue and orange flowers. Got the blue and orange flowers. Let's talk about, you know what, me and your mom, Tom. She was on.

Okay. And trust me. Trust me. Anybody, my brothers, all my niggas in New York, they go see my mom. I really appreciate it. But you didn't have to send me that. You knew what you was doing, nigga. It's all good. I ain't even tripping. But I'm telling you, this is how't have to send me that. You knew what you was doing, nigga. It's all good.

I ain't even tripping, but I'm telling you, this is how crazy it is. Yeah, it is. It's getting to this point. It's getting to this point. I said, could you stop? It is July. But this has been going on since they've been eliminated. Hating on Minnesota.

Hating on Boston. Oh, we was. Yo, shut up and get ready for September and October. See this bitch ass nigga Halliburton on Olympic team. How Jalen Brunson ain't on. He won't stop. Every day is something different. I know I was going on.

I just got caught up in my mental. But the Milwaukee Bucks are the biggest. Boss. Yeah. Boss. But the Milwaukee Bucks are the biggest. Buss. Yeah. Buss. That's what you call them. Killer, you said a nigga get heat up. And I let that slide, boss.

I didn't say nothing. I didn't even say anything. I didn't say nothing, bro. I didn't even say anything I didn't say nothing bro I didn't even say anything but as far as as far as as far as not making moves cool like

pardon me but if Dane Lillard is saying he's going to come in a different player if Giannis is going to be healthy if Chris Middleton especially, that's the real key. Chris Middleton being healthy. You haven't been healthy in years, nigga. What the fuck?

They not going to win with just Dane and fucking. Great Creek. Yeah, exactly. And I like my nigga. You know, they power forward. I like that nigga. I don't know why I can't think of his name right now. He's really good.

But Chris Middleton is the fucking key. And if you don't step up and be healthy, they can forget about it. That's why I was so adamant about the DeMar DeRozan situation, because I would have said, boom. I'm not saying that's a great question, because if you want to put him against Paul George, you got him against Paul George. You want to put a primetime Dame Lillard, I don't know if that's still great question because if you want to put him against paul george you got him against paul george you want to put a prime time dame lillard i don't know if that's still a situation

you got him against cyrus maxi you got the greek freak against joelle and b and then we'll figure it out as we go around down the line with boston but if you're behind philly and the knicks y'all got a lot to prove so i'm gonna go with the milwaukee bucks good points y'all got a lot to prove. So I'm going to go with the Milwaukee Bucks. That's a good point, y'all. Okay, so we're going to go to break. When we return, we will talk about that boy Ryan Garcia. Don't go anywhere. I'm calling you. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting

Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about wanting to be free. Why am I in this one? She want to be free. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So we're going to talk about some summer league teams.

So we got the Grizzlies versus the Jazz. Underdog fantasy has Zach Eady at 14.5 points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher. Come on, Eady going to have more than 14. Lower. You're not going to give him that much playing time. Okay.

Scotty Pippen Jr. is at 23.5 points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Don't fuck the trilogy up the family, nigga. Legacy. You better be higher with all them stats they give me. All right. Okay. Isaiah Collier is at 13.5 points.

Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? I'm going higher. Lower. Okay. Download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so over the weekend Ryan Garcia was expelled by the world boxing council

after using racial slurs against black people and Muslims on a live stream he since apologized and said I was trolling I want all the killing

to stop I love everyone sorry if I offended you do you guys think the issue was handled appropriately by the wbc and then what do you guys think of ryan garcia's continued trolling that has never stopped this is this is a real sensitive issue when it comes to Ryan, because when you see Ryan doing the things that he's doing, part of it could be trolling. But it's starting to come across as a mental breakdown, as a mental breakdown. I say that from the aspect of just really being overwhelmed with success. I remember earlier when we first started taping this show that Killer brought up something to Gary Coleman.

He got several bad things going at the same time. You could see some drug abuse there. You could see some alcoholism there. Two major things that you need help with already. And then you add the mental instability along with the need for acceptance. That's four. You got a lot of things going on that I don't even think people could clinically really observe and know what they're looking at. Sometimes we think people are really tough when really they're mentally challenged and look at them as really dangerous from the aspect of them being aggressive when really they're a problem to their own self. And it's just all of this is present when you're looking at Ryan. And I wish he'd get some real serious help. And it's sad that he made so much money so fast

because the money is actually working against him. They say when you make money, money allows you to be who you really are. They say when you make money, money allows you to be who you really are. You know, money just multiplies who you are. So if you're an idiot and you get a lot of money, you just become a bigger idiot, you know. So he was already mentally challenged and the money made him mentally just even bigger in that area. And sometime this is a classical example of when a kid is broken to be a superstar. Like sometime what it takes to raise a kid up to a celebrity, they lose so many things as a child.

And this is what we're seeing play out in his life because people can't really pinpoint where it come from but I guarantee if you go back and look at what it took for him to get to this point it was all of those things that broke him to get here so now he ends up with a bunch of money a bunch of success but is a shell of a person and we see that a lot with great athletes and great entertainers because they lost so much to be there. So that's what I think is like seven or eight things wrong that Ryan needs serious attention about.

And I think when people are thinking about Ryan, they're just seeing one part. But it's what I know from the clinical aspect, he got like seven things going on. That's why you be getting the mentor gigs. That shit right there, right? That's what gets you the mentor gigs that take you just to... I did spell it out, though.

That's what gives you them gigs right there. Alcoholism. No, no, that was right there. Alcoholism. No, no. That was pretty good. Drug abuse. That was really good. Until he's clinically diagnosed, get the fuck off your phone, nigga. You're in the phone too much.

You're on the internet too much. Put your phone down. Everything they said may be cool. Until they diagnose you, I don't want to hear it. If they diagnose you with bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, I'm not hitting you with none of that. I think Marius was right. I think he's got some shit wrong with you.

Go get the diagnosis so we can really be like, nah, you know the nigga's schizophrenic, right? You know he's bipolar, right? So we can go with that. You know where he's going now? Because he's like the racist shit? I think I need to go to rehab. Nah, nah, nah.

Everybody goes to rehab once they get suspended for some wild shit. Niggas like, oh, I've been drinking too much. I'm on pills or whatever. Now you're going to rehab. I'm not jacking it. Pause. Now, what Mase said, you may need to take that in the heat because I think he has some, he may be right on some few shit, but I'm not jacking it pause now what may said you may need to take take that in the heat because i think he has some he may be right on some few shit but i'm not jacking none of that until they diagnose

you rehab is wild until he got his hospital note yeah you ain't going i ain't jacking that you gotta get diagnosed because you know why you can get away with certain shit when you got that paper you know like oh nah he's schizophrenic though oh okay i didn't know that and then the sympathies kicks in yeah niggas feel sorry for you i ain't know the nigga was sent to schizophrenic i know i know people with bipolar disorder i know like friends you know i'm saying then but they got their paperwork and they got medicine and they got medicine and if they don't take their medicine, they bug the fuck out. Like, really bug out.

Yeah. So, I ain't none of this shit. Now, you right, murder. These symptoms are what you talking about. Get the paperwork. You may get a different take from me. Until today, you're racist. And you're saying wild shit.

And you need to stay off the phone. Whoever's around him, say, this is what you're about to say may not be good for live. It may not be good for a blog. It may not be good for an interview. You're wilding. Now, when you're trolling, see, that's the thing about it is that he uses the word troll a lot.

I'm trolling. I'm trolling. Fighting Devin Haney. I'm trolling. Who are you trolling? The Muslims and the blacks? There's no reason to troll. You don't have a fight coming up.

Who are you trolling just in general to be like, I'm going to get niggas like this or niggas like that? Mace made a great point. You got several issues going on. You don't need to be trolling a motherfucking person. They took your victory away against Devin Haney. You got found guilty of the- Hostile.

Yeah, exactly. And now you're being racist. against Devin Haney. Y'all found guilty of the... Postering. Yeah, exactly. And now you're being racist. Now you're going to rehab. No, I ain't checking rehab, bro. I'm not. Yeah, because he's saying he's a racist thing, but then saying he's a Christian.

It is just the wildest combination. Might be bipolar. Yeah. Did you guys hear what he said? I did. I did. Okay, well, for Cam, basically, and he said a lot of things, but he said, I hate niggas.

I'm anti-black. I'm the KKK. Hey, let's go bring George Floyd back to life and go kill that nigga again. He don't get no pass for that. Come on. He don't get no pass. I didn't hear that part. This is what I'm talking about. He don't get no pass for that. Come on. He don't get no pass. I didn't hear that part. This is what I'm talking about. He don't get no pass for that.

Come on. Come on, man. You better go get your note. You better go get your note. I'm glad I said it. Exactly. Now you, now,

I already wasn't jacking it. Now I heard that? Yeah. I don't even want to hear rehab, nigga. Go bring George Floyd back to life to kill the nigga again and you come on my nigga come on i'm just trying to figure out what the fuck do you get out of that trolling if that's your quote unquote excuse i was trolling trolling for what

like what's the the recipient let me get everybody black mad at me for a minute no the drug call fame yeah whatever it is that's gonna get you more hate yeah i mean make you famous but it's gonna get you more hate than any type of fan or love anything because what happens with statements like that even though and that's the right thing boxing which i'll dis suspend them indefinitely um i think that's a great call um but what that gets is different um attention attention that's a great call but what that gets is different attention attention that's not what I'm looking for but

parties that gets the Muslims outside of your show the what's your nigga's name you're from school all these all these these nigg, all these, the Kappas, these niggas,

all the black, yeah, all these people, all these different groups of black people will hate you, nigga, for that shit right there.

I don't really see an apology where a black nigga gonna sit there and be like, nah, dig it, you was fucked up.

Nah, you can't be, you can't, let me explain something to you, people that's not black. What I just heard the stat read it's really really no coming back from that type shit yeah you know a certain shit you'd be like i slipped up and said nigga you kkk let's go kill all the black people brick there is real is is no coming back from that when you're a certain type of black person

and that's just not going to happen so uh you may and listen a doctor no at this point ain't going to get it that's not going to get it my nigga so yeah people are people support them on camera like they'll say you know what um i feel that but off the camera they're gonna want to they're gonna want to try boss yeah yeah definitely so even if they're acting like they understand that's just because the camera is on right because you saw how quick my my my um my my feelings towards it changed that fast the moment i heard that right doctor went out the building because i saw a guy online out after i saw what he said the other portion there was a guy in the supermarket and they was trolling him because they was showing how trolling goes wrong so a guy snatched this man groceries you saw it And he told him we can go outside

If you don't like what I just did He didn't know the old man was strapped So the boss The old man Ready to pull out his gun He was like oh it's a troll He said I don't care it's a troll And all of a sudden right now

He's telling the man He's like please mister it was just a problem. He said, this guy over here filming, but you about to die on camera trying to get famous. We need to bring the TV back ahead, Nick. Yeah. Well, no, all good. I'm just going to add, like, even if you support him on camera or whatever you feel, I'm still judging you. Because even after he said, this is stuff stuff everyone says if you get triggered by a word

that means you are too sensitive we joke a lot up here a lot of people say different things but when you say something like to that extremity that extent it's just like if that's how you really feel and that's brought to light I'm looking at you and everybody else around you different because the fact that you even feel that way, it's crazy. Like I know there's different ways to fix mental health, but that's like a different level. And let me let me share with you why is not trolling because you could not troll like that with Latino people. I don't care what way you try to spend that. You will not be able to make those kind of racist jokes towards spanish

people and they go over well even worse than spanish people makes it not worse everything is yeah jewish people yeah won't ever see you again ruth okay so along the same type of topic so So Shakur retains his WBC title after defeating Artem over the weekend. How did you guys feel about his performance and who do you guys want to see him fight next? I don't want to see Shakur fight. I'm just going to be honest. no disrespect to Newark but I don't want to see Shakur fight nobody I mean it's like for him to be hanging out with Terrence Crawford and Andre Ward there is absolutely no way that he's that he's fighting the way he's fighting. I mean, and I think that God kind of tricked him out of his stance the way he was trying to show that he can be on offense.

But you just need to accept he's a defense fighter. He's not an offensive fighter, and there's nothing wrong with that. You know, a lot of times people compare people to people that they are not comparable with. I mean, the more and more I watch him fight, the more I think of like Penel Whitaker and different people like that was defensive wizards. But he got to get some offense and he got to get some strength in his hands. I think when it went to 135 from 130, he lost a lot of power.

Sometimes you're powerful in a different class, but when you go up, that same punching power doesn't translate. And he got to get that fixed fast because the next couple of fights that he want to take, he will need that power. He will even need that power, I think, against Devin Haney. He would definitely need something against Javante because I think Javante would just run, like, obliviate him. At one time, people was talking like that's a matchup. That's not a matchup. News flash from it is what it is. That is not a matchup. And that's not something he

should keep calling for. And I really didn't like, so I really only had negative things to make him accountable for. Even the way he was talking to his grandfather during the time of the in-between rounds, it just looked like he's not listening to his corner, and all of that are bad signs for cocky fighters. Cocky fighters always go out under the ropes, outside the ropes, and I don't want to see that for him. So shape up, Shakur. Get back on your thing, which is being defensive with it, but leave that Javante alone, man, Javante

should be a no contest right now, I only want to see two people fight Javante, and that's Tiafemo, or what's the other guy's name? Or the one he's about to fight, Lomachenko. But nobody else should be thinking about fighting Javante right now. It's too much. It's too risky. Somebody said on Instagram I was following that

I never see Shakur Stevenson fight again. That's too soon. Listen, man, I did the right thing. It was on ESPN, so I recorded it. Yeah. And then I asked, I said, I'm not, because I watched the fight before that. I said, I'm not going to do two of these. I can't get this hour back in my life.

Yeah. So I recorded. Niggas said, nah. I said, good. I don't have to watch. I got home. I seen the 11th and 12th round. I seen he's from Newark.

He's fighting in Newark. And as soon as I turned TV on, I seen niggas walking out. Yeah, nigga. Fabio. Shout out to Fabio. Fabio walked out. There's all type of niggas walking out. Niggas was walking out. Yeah, nigga, Fabio, shout out to Fabio. Fabio walked out. There's all type of niggas walking out. Them niggas was booing.

And I'm like, yo, you're at home, and they're booing you at home. And he kept saying, I'ma knock him out. Oh, he was? Between the later rounds. Okay. Well, see, he fucked that chicken up last night for the future fights

because nobody wants to see you fight Tank right now. And look, we got to really take this into consideration. As much as he's a great defensive fighter and they're like,

oh, he may be one of the best defensive fighters since Floyd. People really, really tend to forget that it's two Floyd Mayweathers. It's Money May and it's Pretty Boy Floyd. Yeah. Pretty Boy Floyd was out here thumping with niggas. Yeah, getting niggas out. Yeah, beating niggas the fuck up.

Knocking niggas the fuck out. Money May figured out, I'm going to just box your face off, keep all my scruples, make all this money, probably six, seven, eight, nine, 10 times what I was making, and leave the game with this chicken. Y'all can't go to Money Mayweather without being pretty boy Floyd. You can't do that. Y'all niggas better go look at the tapes. Go look at Diego Corrales. Go look at Ricky Hatton. Go look at Shane Mosley.

Go look at these niggas he beat up. He just didn't do that. You niggas can't go straight to Pretty Money Mayweather. And I'm just saying, if that's your strategy. And another problem is this, when I'm learning murder, is this. In my opinion, it's not learning, it's just my opinion, Floyd set the bar so high. Before Floyd, I'm talking about, if you're looking at Mike Tyson,

if you're looking at Roy Jones, if you're looking at Muhammad Ali or whatever generation you came in. Sugar Ray. Sugar Ray. All of them had losses. Yeah. Floyd left with no losses, so now everybody's scared to lose day O. Yeah.

The bar is set too fucking high, not undefeated, to where they're just like, damn, I can't lose. And now it's costing us as fans to see good fights. After the fight, Shakur calls out Lomacheco. Listen, listen, man. I don't know what to tell him, what to do. I don't even know

if I have to have cancer. Because you know why I'm hurting? It ain't like he lost. It ain't like he's losing. You know what I mean? The way people are viewing Shakur and his fucked up is that like he on a three fight

losing streak. He didn't even lose, but he's boring. So like, I'm saying like, I can't fuck with him. He didn't even lose. I mean, I mean, the part that makes him that he's getting so much heat for it. Shout out the boxing, whatever to do boxing ego with that. What is it called?

Something like that. Shout out to whoever I heard say this. But he said that he's constantly calling people out like he's a smoke fighter. He's not a smoke fighter, you know? He's telling them he's going to knock niggas out. He's sending niggas bottles. Remember all of that? Like, you can't be sending niggas bottles and fighting like this. The nigga that's sending you bottles knock you out in the first round, right?

If you sending niggas bottles, you telling niggas pull up, you telling people you a spank, um, Javante, it's like, you can't say that and then have these kind of outings if he wasn't talking so much trying to garner so much attention then it would just be like he just wanted to fight but when you talking super crazy and then going out there just being defensive that's when it doesn't make sense. You know? And I think that's what's getting him all of the heat. He's running his mouth. He's talking like a nigga from up top, but he's fighting like a nigga from Princeton.

You know what I'm saying? So you got to decide which one you're going to be. Listen, what I will say is this. It was a great fight Saturday night. It was a great fight Saturday night. Yeah. It was a Shakur. If you guys do not know, it's a young nigga named Kamel Moten.

Yo, this kid is a problem. He's 4-0, just turned 4 a little while ago. Four fights, three knockouts. He's a miniature tank. He's a problem. I watched his fight. Another first-name knockout. He's a problem. I watched his fight. Another first-name rocker. He wants problems.

Yo, this nigga's 18 years old with grown man strength. If y'all want to see the best fight that happened last Saturday, Google Kamel Moten and watch his fight. That's the fight everybody should have been paying attention to. And I know he's young and I know he's on the rise. It's a cause established. But this kid looks really dangerous. The only thing I would say is that, and I know he's on the rise. It's a cause established. But this kid looks really dangerous. Only thing I would say is that, and I'm not knocking him,

that he got to get in some later rounds because he keep knocking niggas out in the first round. That's how strong this nigga is. He just knocked a grown man out. This nigga's 18 with grown man strength, Kamel Moten. You're officially being watched and you're on the clock. Salute, nigga. Yeah. And the guy that gave us that information was Box and Ego.

So I wanted to put some respect on his name. All right. So now we got to discuss Brawny James. So he had his summer league debut at the California Classic. He had four points, was two for nine for shooting, and played 22 minutes. Ahead of his second game, he will sit out due to a swelling in his left knee.

He is expected to play Wednesday for the final classic game against the heat. So with the information that we know, and then what we've seen, how do you guys feel about Bronnie James start so far? Hmm. Um, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to let Cam lead the way on this. You know, this is PR at its best.

You know, there's marketing and then there's pr this is great pr he's hurt so if he's hurt then that's the reason he had four points this is pr that's best i want to hear what killer got to say i don't i don't have nothing to say about this, but there's marketing and then there's PR. For all you young kids watching this, this is PR at its best. He didn't have a bad game. He was hurt. His knee is hurt. And that's why he set out.

He wasn't 100%. Look, you know, they're my niggas, but we're going to call it like we said. Nigga ain't play good. Secondly, how is the second game and you hurt? You fucking 18, 19 years old. You can't be hurt the second game of the season. Come on. Secondly, yo, nephew, look, I don't like all the smiling. This is too much smiling for me.

I don't like all that out there. Hey. Nah, get. Come on, man. What the fuck, nigga? That's just a pop sky. Pause. I'm going to keep going.

I don't like it, nephew. I don't like it. I don't like your... It's only the second game. You're playing up there and going to state. I don't like it. I don't like your field goal percentage.

I'd rather you had scored 25 points and missed 52 shots. Give me more. This is your team. It's summer league. Now, don't get me wrong. I know you got to play within the system and all that,

but do you really got to play within the system? No, he don't. He doesn't have to play. That's what I was just about to say. But do you really got to play within the system? You already got your contract. Go crazy. Go crazy.

Yo, enough. I don't like the smiling. I don't like being. Go crazy. Go crazy. Yo, enough. I don't like the smiling. I don't like being passive. I don't like all that. I'm trying to fit in when you're supposed to stand out. Yeah. Pause.

Listen. And there's no reason for you to be hurt. You didn't play college main last year because of something different. We know that was personal. No disrespect to us that whatsoever. I'm talking about

as far as your legs are concerned. Your legs should be fresh. Just see if you're working out. Do it through your legs and do all this shit sideways. I don't want to hear the injury shit. I don't want to hear it. It's too early. It's the second game of fucking summer league. I'm not jacking this injury shit. Now, if you want to sit out but rotate players, cool. Nah, I'm not jacking that. I don't like your field goal percentage. I don't need you to step it up. That's what I'm going to need you to do. I'm not with it.

I'm not. I'm going to tell you what you should do. Since Killer said nephew, I'm going to give you the cheat code. This is what you do. First thing you do is switch your number. Embrace it. Embrace it. Pause. Wear number six. That's the first thing you do get number six

get your hair back corn rolled you played better when you had corn rolls cut all this off and we're Kobe's we're the lime green Kobe's when you look good you play good you feel good and you out there, you don't really care about nothing. And you got to switch that persona because everybody other than us, I mean, are going to be on your back about everything you do. And I want to see you really do well. But I think in order for you to do well, you got to embrace it, man. LeBron is my pops and so what, nigga? Like I said, they signed me 7.9 million. I'm about to show y'all niggas for all y'all naysayers. That got to be the attitude. Whoever's telling you to be polite, it ain't time to be polite.

Niggas is on your neck. Pause. Like the dude that you was playing against, he had 30 something. Everybody is going to target you. Everybody wants to show that you don't belong here. So you got to go see the movie Spartan or 300. When the little boy said they wanted to put him in Spartan LeBron, they left him on the mountain with the wolf. And if you come back, nigga, you in. It's that simple. If you die out there, you don't belong out here. That's really what got to happen here. Because there is some killing you but the way they're positioning you it's not bringing that out of you we might need to take you with us to the hood for the summer and then bring you back and say okay ready now hit killer killer gonna hit me up go play a dykeman nigga go we'll take you to dykeman nigga we'll take you right to Michelle Tournament on 127th and I'm Parmy on Fifth Avenue.

You need a girlfriend named Lakeisha and all that. Yeah. Ronika and them. You need to be with Ronika and them. And then go back to the Lakers. That's a murder, you know. Talk about it. Yeah.

You need to be talking to Pumpkin and all. We'll bring him back right, I'm telling you, bro. Yeah. He's spending summer with us in Harlem, nigga. Shit, and then he can come back different. Savannah might try to shoot us, nigga. Fuck y'all did to my son. He just want the best for him, you know?

Yeah, that's a fact. What you don't want to happen is this, is that it'll be two years. Look, time is flying before we know it. It'll be two years that went by. You're averaging a single single, and your little brother come and be the nigga that we thought you could have been.

And he come with that attitude and that mystique that we were just talking about, and he be the one. Now now i'm not sitting there comparing it because i think it's two different things yeah but don't let him let mellow ball you exactly literally yeah because it's the mindset the talent is there the athleticism is definitely there it's just like the the pro game is slower but you got to come in like john morant you got to come in like like i'm here bro don't let them fool you yeah i'm really here yeah and and you made a great point mason and even in sunset this too that the beginning part you're talking about yeah lebr LeBron, my pops, and so what? Yeah.

Fuck all that. It is what it is. Exactly. You didn't get your shot, so what? Yeah. They picked me, and that's how it was supposed to be, nigga. It's fate. Last thing before, and I don't know if y'all suddenly say,

I was talking to Rich Paul. Yeah. And he was saying, you know, about nepotism, talking about, you know, we're like our generation leading for the next generation. Mm-hmm. And he was saying how he's talking to one of his friends. I won't say it.

It's one of these billion-dollar companies that we all know. I don't want to put it out there, something that we all go to. But his man owns it. He was the grandson into it. Now he was his, his, his man owns it. He's the grants. He was a grandson into it. Now that he was the grandson of the person who created it. I know I don't want to say I'm going a lot. Cause I don't want to say the name and put the person out there.

Yeah. So now the grandson runs it. Who's around Richard's age and everything. And he said, yo bro, I know y'all grew up rough, man, but I'm not going to apologize for hitting the sperm lottery.

I'm just not going to do it. That was wild. Rich Ball, that was wild. I'm going to let you know that. I get what Killer said, but that was wild. That might be, you might be first team. Yeah. Yeah, but whoever told him that, he's the one who really took the pause.

But he's unapologetic. Yeah, he's right. You know, whatever. That's what I'm saying. You were number six, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yo, I can't help that my grandfather came up with this shit, and I'm not talking about this, but how you going to be mad at the Crocs because their grandfather stole McDonald's from the McDonald brothers

and made the billion? You would. Like when you talk about Paris Hilton and all that, man, listen. I'm not apologizing for Paws hitting the sperm lottery, nigga. It was a million of them niggas running to get out of here. I made it. I think that's the part that got him getting so much flack that he's not embracing it.

Paws, he got to outweigh the arm sleeve, number six, everything. Like, I'm running with it because it's legacy. And if it's legacy, legacy only works if you embrace it. You got to embrace it. That all these commentators don't feel this way about me, and it's for me to prove it, but I'm going to live unapologetically. I'm not going to try to be timetically. I'm not going to try to be timid. I'm not trying to be passive aggressive. Nah, nigga, it is what it is. He named me LeBron

James Jr. for a reason. And that's it. I got to live with that. So I might as well embrace it. Well, this was a great conversation. At the end of the day, Bron brawny we're hoping you feel better before the next game so we can see you play and remember number six cornrows arm sleeve and lime green kobe's and tell me i'm wrong and then last thing i'll say real quick is listen them games up there wherever y'all playing up there and go to state vegas is going to be vicious. When you get out here, it's going to be like a real NBA game. Now, it ain't going to be an arena, but niggas is going to be here. And you think that pressure up there is something? When you get out here to Vegas,

niggas is on you. Everybody's coming to see you play. The gym is going to be packed. The scouts are going to be in the building. The fans are going to be there. Listen, you got no pressure on you. Next week, you're going to see it. It's going to be listen you i got no pressure on next week you're going to see it it's going to be a big difference i've said any better okay that is all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is Outro Music