IT IS WHAT IT IS - SAQUON BARKLEY CONTINUES RUNNIN' WILD & MAHOMES ERA IS JUST GETTING STARTED! | S6 EP10

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, The Playermaker Michael Irvin joins us to talk about the MASSIVE (pause) win for the Eagles over the Commande...rs, do the Giants regret giving up on Saquon Barkley?! Then, Josh Allen gets sent home AGAIN by Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs and Ayooo Mike, what's good with this new coach for the Cowboys?! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Starting point is 00:00:19 Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host Cam. MACE will be back. And today we are joined with our analyst, Michael Irvin.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Mase will be back and today we are joined with our analyst Michael Irvin. Hey, what's up, guys? What's up? What's up, Mike? How you doing? Well, I'm doing, you know, come on, man. You know, we got a lot of football. We'll get to all of that other stuff in a minute. But I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. I watched some playoff football today. That's what's up.
Starting point is 00:01:28 You know, Mike, you on the road more than a singer, rapper, like you live on the road. Like you getting a lot of on the road money. Where you at today? No, no, I'm back in LA. I just got back in LA. you know, we're all here But my toys can't when I took first told you I said listen, I don't make decisions where I go my dollar does I used to tell my lady every day right I get up a kiss I say baby, I say, baby, let me get out of here and get your money.
Starting point is 00:02:06 She said, well, get on out of here then. I said, what's awesome, what's here, what's here, we already own. Out there, I gotta go get it to bring it back here. You see what I'm saying? So yeah, you gotta go out there in the world, in the wilderness. And the thing, and you know what, Mike,
Starting point is 00:02:21 you know we was talking about relationships last week. You gotta have a lady that understand that too. Because a lot of girls, a lot of females, you always going, you're not here. Well, you like living like this? You like the accessories? You like what come with the lifestyle? You got to have a very understanding lady that you out a lot of the time. I tell ladies that I get involved involved with if you don't like dating the person with a truck driver's lifestyle, then I'm not fighting because I'm on the road. I'm going right. Right, you gotta move. You're in demand. You gotta holler while you're in demand. That's a fact. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:02:59 If your man stopped, man, I'd have a hell of a run. And I'm gonna hate. Oh, yes. A hell of a run. So, you like, hey, a hell of a run. So, you know, you gotta go when that thing is good to go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, last thing before we start those stats. I was trying to, yo, Mike, I was trying to get Arabia on tonight,
Starting point is 00:03:18 but mysteriously she's sick today. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she got the flu. Yeah, she got the flu. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 She said she got the flu, huh? Oh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 She is. She is. She is. She is. She is. She is. She is. She did not want to come on tonight.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's funny, boy. That's funny. Yeah, I was trying to get on. No, you really had the flu. She don't say, I really had the flu. I really had the flu. I would have come on and played. No.
Starting point is 00:04:04 No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's mighty mysterious. The story is making an hour wait anyway. She don't say, I really had the flu, I really had the flu, I would have come on and think, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's mighty mysterious. The story's greater our way anyway. The story's greater our way. Yeah, yeah, you just didn't want to show up and take this down. I'ma let, but she comes on usually once a week.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm gonna move her day to Thursday when you're back. I'm mad she's not here to defend herself because I know she probably has a lot of words for the both of y'all. But Arabia, I hope you get well soon. We're all hoping you have a speedy recovery, but yeah, that commander's beat down. Y'all listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:04:37 She all right. I know what she's sick about. She better be glad, she better be glad I'm coming off the flu and it had me beat down so I know it's out there. I was talking about it on my channel. I said, listen, I was coming off the flu and got hit in the face with this doo-doo
Starting point is 00:04:56 of a coach situation. You see what I'm saying? So it was like I was down and then got beat down. So I know she probably really is sick, you know what I mean? But dude, let me tell you, I had so much fun with her last time, man. We survived like that a lot. She's a cool girl.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And I even saw when she posted it, somebody was trying to come at me about my hair. She got on in there and you know, she defended me. She gave that dude the three keys that I gave her. She said, I'm going to give you one. She defended me. That's my girl. I wanted to hit on the field and say, you my girl, I appreciate that. So yeah, I like to get on with it. Arabia is definitely down with our team. She was, she did a few episodes last season. She'd been around this season,
Starting point is 00:05:48 but it's so dope because y'all two, we both know who, we all know who y'all both, both y'all teams are and it's divisional. Not just conference, it's divisional. So a lot of people, I've seen a lot of fans was like, yo, this was one of my favorite shows in a long time with y'all two on. So I want to thank both of y'all for participating, man. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, but she's good though. She's good. She's fun. You know what I mean? And she loves the game. And I was happy for her, but that was a tough game today for them. That was a tough game. So I know that was hard.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. So let's actually get into that game. So the Eagles beat the commanders 55 to 23 to advance to the Super Bowl This is the most point scored in an NFC championship game Mike. What did you think of the Eagles performance? It was a dominating performance on two sides now I mean, of course the running game against Washington's defense and And I'm telling everybody, I've been talking about that that Eagles defense is serious. But now I still,
Starting point is 00:06:52 if we get Eagles all the credit that they deserve, and I can't wait to watch that game. And we'll talk about the matchup and what happened in the Super Bowl. But I was watching this game and I'm watching Jane Daniels against this number one defense. This is the number one defense in the National Football League, the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And they lost the game on some turnovers early, but it wasn't like, you know, I wanted to see him with the ball in his hand more. You know, once they got those turnovers, Philly ran that ball and they got the pool away. I remember I listened to Jimmy Johnson. He was talking about it at halftime. He said, hey, this game wasn't over. And I thought that maybe even there's a little chance that the commander's going to have him out of combat. And I wanted to see what kind of plays young Jayden Daniels made, but it was too much. That was a dominating performance by Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And a great job by Jalen Hurts stood in there made some passes through that ball, threw down the sideline to big AJ Brown. That's the one thing now, let me tell you guys something too. Like, Latimore, you see Latimore who's a great DB. You see him fight Mike Evans and all of that stuff. You saw him fighting AJ Brown as part of his game plan. You know, he never wants the receiver to get comfortable. You know, he's always, and all other receivers, they just kind of run away because they don't even want that kind of contact. But guys like that have to understand.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Dudes like me and dudes like AJ Brown, you can't, you don't scare me. Bring your little butt up here, you know, it's different. I wanna see your butt up here. Come on up here. Hey, when D-R backed up, I said, damn. Cause I can't outrun that leather. I gotta run to him and then we gonna start running.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'll start way back here? Ain't no never I run. Come on up here, let me beat you up, son. You know what I mean? Beat you right here. And you kind of play into the hands of a big receiver like that. And AJ Brown made some plays on him.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So yeah, I thought Philly dominated that game. But I feel it dominated that game. I don't say they dominated Jaden Daniels. You see what I'm saying? But they did dominate the game. Yo Mike, I wanted to ask you real quick before I even get to the game. I actually seen the clip where you and Dion
Starting point is 00:09:18 was in a dunk contest with some other people. Yeah, who won that? Cause I didn't know you was dunking and all that. You was good at basketball. You just could dunk. That's what come on. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Try to listen. Listen, I'm just asking if you could yell, you know, listen.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Because I like I used to like athletic players to play defense with me because I would get you up in the sky. I didn't know that was you're good or you could just dunk. Dunk, listen, man, we played in belt beach, we went to belt beach ball class against Kenny Anderson, all those dudes. Dude, I went down there, man, I snapped 23 rebounds a game, 24 points a game.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Dude, are you serious? Oh my God, yo, Murda, you hear this? 24, 24 is crazy, man. My best friend, my best friend is Mitch Richmond. Mitch Richmond, you know, Mitch Richmond, our best friend. I dropped Mitch off at high school, at night school, and everything.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, there's other things with him. Mitch is type one. Man, I would feed that thing to Mitch too now. Mitch, Mitch, Mitch. Hey, yo, my. Mitch, Mitch been a hard thing. He would tell you I fed it to him. Now, I get down.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Look, they froze him just for lying. He caught him. Wisedo, you gotta chill out, Wisedo. Look, they froze him just for, but who won the dunk contest? Did either one of y'all win or somebody else? No, no, let me tell you how that went too. Honestly, honestly.
Starting point is 00:10:53 No, no, I made it to the finals. I went against the long jumper, call it a long jumper. Deon and I, man, Deon was so funny, man. Oh my God. So, and it had strategy to it. Like you gotta, the person who won, you would so funny, man. Oh my God. So, and it had strategy to it. Like you gotta, the person who, one of you would choose who goes last.
Starting point is 00:11:08 You wanted to go last, right? So Dion, I was in the finals with Mike Conner and then we talking. I said, man, okay, we're trying to come up with dogs. Dion said, now you do know. This dude been trashed all day, all year, man. This $50,000 be big for him and his family now. You made millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:28 This is just how we were talking. But what Mike Cullen did, he came from the free throw line. Y'all seen that? That dude came from the free throw line, man. It was, hey man, listen. It was over when he came from the free throw line. But I went with showmanship. I gave him that D Brown peek-a-boo dunk behind my back,
Starting point is 00:11:48 leaning in, joints fouled, covering my eyes. Oh, shit. Murda, hold on to that. Yeah. That story gets crazy and crazy. Yeah, it always gets crazy. Behind your back, and covering your eyes, Mike. Chill out, man.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. No, seriously, that was my winning dunk. It was called a peekaboo dunk. It was, that's what I called it, peekaboo dunk. Now, I would go- It's D. Brown dunk, Mike. You gonna just remix his dunk?
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's what I'm saying. But D. Brown- So you wasn't gonna give D. Brown the credit? Right, yeah, I'm gonna give him his credit, because he didn't do what I did. I started that thing at mid court with one of these. Hey, with all that right there, you know, walking around, Calvary people.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I took it, they had to vote for me. I incorporated the whole audience. Throwing the ball, then I came on that peek-a-boo. And it was, and Deeper, he didn't take it behind his back. He just peek-a-boo. I was kind of a friend. I know, I know, I know. You know when they don't start out with,
Starting point is 00:12:58 yeah I won, they didn't win. They got evidence, they got evidence. Slam Fist got the video. You posted the video. Give me my flowers. That's all I'm saying. Give me my, I'm an old man. These knees can't move now, but boy they used to spring right on up in there. Mike, that's what I'm saying. Mike, what happened to you? I wasn't here, but what happened to your young boy today? Paul, I mean yesterday, what happened, man? Who that? Jayden, what happened?
Starting point is 00:13:32 That was a it was a pause, a blowout, man. We we we just get into that. So let me so. So, yeah, Mike, I want to agree with you on your take real quick is that Lattimore, they they fucked the nigga, pause. The nigga, like, bro, you basically, again, into this big, you know, I mean, of course it's football. I like to see that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Not when it's gonna cause you yardage, but at the same time. That's a big nigga you're doing right there. That's a big nigga you doing right there. That's a big joke. I mean, hey, stop. Hey yo, pause. Pause. Pause.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Dude. Pause, Mike. Pause that. Pause. It's a big dude you doing this. Pause that. But anyway. That's a big ho.
Starting point is 00:14:21 That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big ho. That's a big hump. That's it. What I was going to say. Y'all just got to hear, man. But yeah, listen. But you can tell AJ Brown wasn't mentally out of it,
Starting point is 00:14:33 even though they were getting into what they were getting into, it seemed like it affected Latimore more mentally. Right. And AJ Brown was just like, all right, I'm going to cook you the rest of the game. Keep playing. That's where AJ Brown was like, I'm going to cook you the rest of the game. Keep playing. That's where AJ Brown mentality looked to me. And I was like, the moment to me was just too big for the commanders.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It looked like a team that had been there before against a team that hadn't been there before. Like you said, Washington came out the gate, 19 plays, first drives, three points. Philly gets the ball first place, A'Qaul Barkley runs it back for 60, 60 yards or something like that out of the gate. They get the ball back, their second possession.
Starting point is 00:15:16 No touchdown. Jaylen Hirsch ran for three touchdowns. It was just too much. And then what you're not thinking about, not you, I'm just saying in general, is that every turnover that Washington had, Philly scored on each turnover. So we're looking at 28 points on just turnovers.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And they were making mental mistakes. I think the moment was way too big for him. I think, I'm not sure if it was Luba, he's trying to hop over niggas. Like he, you know, at the goal line. Yeah, like yo, he did it two times. What the fuck are you doing? Calm down, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So you not, Miles Garrett nigga, calm down. Like these niggas was too hyped. They wasn't ready for the moment. And then that fourth quarter made the difference. It was a 21 to zero fourth quarter. But I think you were right for three quarters. It wasn't out of Washington's reach. But once it got to that fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:16:12 Philly turned it up and Washington just wasn't ready. It wasn't, the moment for me was just, I mean, the moment for them, pardon me, to me, was just too big for them for that game. But I think they'll be back. Like a lot of people didn't expect them to be there at all actually. But once you're there, you're there.
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's what I was talking about with Arabia. She tried to cover our grants about, well, we ain't supposed to be here anyway. And if we wouldn't, are we playing with house money? No, you're not playing with house money. This is the shit I was talking about she was gonna do just in case they lost. I knew that she was gonna cover her.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Pardon me, cover her ground with that. But no, absolutely not. Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles. They looked like a team that needed to go to the Super Bowl and Washington looked like it. It was just too big of a moment for them. But Jalen, Jalen Daniels played good. I think he did very well for the situation.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But those turnovers, with those turnovers were just the difference because you're scoring touchdowns on turnovers. That's a 28 point difference. Not to mention that they hung up 55 points. They actually missed the field goal. So it could have been 58 points, but they looked like they were clicking
Starting point is 00:17:21 on all cylinders yesterday. Yeah. Shout out to the Philadelphia. Shout out. Go ahead, Mike. What I'm saying, though, Cam, is what you said, you said that game was outmanned from Washington. That's why I made a distinction, because I'm also reading, see, where Jaden Daniels was.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I don't think that it was too big for him. I think it was too big for his team in the way they were playing. But you know, yeah, he was playing a very good defense, best defense in the NFL. And I thought he was ready to play and play some great plays that he had. Passed through Terrell McClure, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:57 so I wanted to see that also. Yeah, I agree with you. Like, Jayden did his play great. He didn't have them turnovers. These is fumbles These is passes court fumbling after the past This no, you know, this was not this was not Jayden Daniels fault whatsoever I think he had sensational season and he finished strong. He finished strong God murder. Yes. Shout out to the city of Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:18:25 my second home city, other than a few other cities. But I think the moment, like you said, Killer, you couldn't have said it better, boss. It was just a way too big a moment for the commanders. When they got out there, it just looked like a JV team that was amped up to play a varsity
Starting point is 00:18:45 team and eventually they thought they could hang out and then they just got blown out, paused pretty much. And what I saw in there, even when people give the shout out to Jayden Daniels for doing a great job this year, but I think people rushed to miscalculate what's going to happen next year. We got to remember last year we was talking about CJ Strout and how they'll be right back and they're not right back. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:13 So when you, like you said, Kayla, when you get there, you have to make the most of the moment, make the most of the time, because it's not guaranteed for you to get back there. Next year, it'll be a new quarterback playing Jayden Daniels coming out of college and having a breakout year. So when you get there, you have to, you have to close the deal. I think they had the tools they could have done better, but it just seemed like they psychologically wasn't, wasn't ready for that. And one time I remember when they first started and, and Philadelphia got that first touchdown, I remember you they first started in Philadelphia, got that first touchdown. I remember you guys saying how poor Jayden Daniel was, but I thought he was a little too cool for the moment.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I think he needed to show more emotion as a leader that would have got them revved up to play. But it's? The thing. The thing I think that's different, I think Jaden Jaden Dan is going to be great for years to come. I think CJ Strout, I see the analysts say this after the game, actually
Starting point is 00:20:19 yesterday. You have you have you have the Michael Jordan era where must play is up. We won't get championships. You have the Michael Jordan era where messed players up who won't get championships You got the Tiger Woods era for golf. You got the Tom Brady era for Right right now you're in the Patrick Mahomes era and CJ Strout just happened to run into Patrick Mahomes And so I think CJ Strout just happened to run into Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And so I think CJ Strout did it, had a decent season as well. But right now, until further notice, we're actually in a Patrick Mahomes era. So I think CJ Strout is still good. You just happen to play the Michael Jordan of the 90s right now. And the Tiger Woods of his generation, the Tom Brady and the runner he was on. So I think CJ, CJ Strout and Jay and Daniels both have bright futures. It's a little more technical for CJ Straub because he's in the AFC. And you're gonna have to bump into Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:21:13 You're gonna have to bump into Joe Burrow. You're gonna have to bump into Lamar Jackson. You're gonna have to bump into Josh Daniels. And it's just different in the AFC because we'll sit there and look at Lamar Jackson and we'll sit there and look at Josh Allen and they all can pass one person. And we'll get to that in a minute. But I just think both of those young quarterbacks are bright futures.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. And don't forget the Serena arrow. That was the other one. Right. Yeah. That's the other one he said. Yep. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, so obviously one player we have to give a lot of credit to is Saquon Barkley. So one of the first plays he scored a 60 yard touchdown and with today's scores, he posted seven rushing touchdowns of 60 plus yards this season, including playoffs, which is the most in league history. So, Michael Parsons tweeted, Sequon is the best player in the NFL right now. Mike, I have to ask you first, what do you think about this tweet
Starting point is 00:22:11 from an active Cowboys player? Well, and especially a guy like Michael Parsons who runs down and chase down football players all the time. You gotta give Sequon his credit. We all thought that, we knew he had that ability. You still gotta have an ability to make those opportunities count. And injuries robbed him of that.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And lack of talent robbed him of that. But today, right now, he looks like the best player in the National Football League. Now you guys do remember, and I don't imagine it would happen to him in two weeks, but this best player stuff, it's hard to hold it over the course of a whole year. Just seven days ago,
Starting point is 00:22:56 we hoarse up one Josh Allen, made him a king. Here comes the king, here comes the king. And now today, we gonna put him back down because you know what I mean? He didn't take care of the king. You see what, this is the nature of this business. And right now, the way Saquon Barkley is running and he's carrying this team, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 He looks like the best player in national football league. But y'all watch your mouths with that. NFC. We're about to talk about a dude that's telling everybody sit your asses down. Hey, hey, hey, Utah white boy, sit your ass down. I'm the man. Hey, hey, hey, Lamar, you dog skin bro,
Starting point is 00:23:39 sit your ass down. We beating everybody. That's what Patrick Mahomes is saying. So yeah, you might be the baddest player, but Patrick Mahomes the baddest man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. I think Saquon is the best player in the NFC.
Starting point is 00:23:55 After what I saw yesterday, I really have to second that emotion that is definitely Patrick Mahomes until further notice. Okay. And then Ken. The baddest man. He the baddest man. that is definitely Patrick Mahomes until further notice. Okay. And then Ken. He the baddest man. He the baddest man.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah. Well, the thing about it, I totally agree with both of y'all. What are we talking about this season? I don't know how you gonna put Saquon Barkley in a conversation for MVP. I know that we're basing it off Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. And I think Jared Golf was third. But what Saquon Barkley did this season was amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Even the fact that they didn't even let him play the last game when he could have potentially broke the Russian record that's been held on for however long. And he didn't even play that last game. But to come out and this season, in this first season making the playoffs and doing the things that he done in the playoffs so far, it's been tremendous to watch the
Starting point is 00:24:50 last couple of weeks. Okay. And also regarding Saquon, so we got to look back. Mike, do you think the Giants will forever regret letting go of Saquon Barkley and send him to the Eagles? He's such a nice guy. You know, I thought about this, you know, he's such a nice dude. And I feel, I think they should be happy, happy for him. They never were gonna be able to get here. They never would have been able to give him this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:25:18 They wouldn't have, you wouldn't have. So you're sitting, yeah, it's your rivalry, right up the road, but be happy. He's a good dude. Now, if he had been going, remember that relationship like Odeh Beckham had with him, Odeh Beckham Jr. had with New York and all that before they shipped him off to Cleveland? They shipped him off to dry up. The fail, we're going to send you to hell.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You know, they say, Quaron, he's such a nice dude, man. It's hard for me to say that you're wishing me any bad. But the New York Giants can't be sitting here like, man, we could have been having that. No, you couldn't have. Y'all ain't got that. You couldn't have had that. And he tried to lift you up,
Starting point is 00:26:04 but you had Daniel Jones back there He gave him 40 million 40 million millies and then didn't want to pay that man So no, no one man's trash is another man's treasure. You didn't deserve them That part Mace. What do you think? I think I think New York probably there were probably like four or five years away from being able to use Saquon right now or three, depending on who they pick this season. So I think I agree with Micah. They did the best thing by letting them go if they wanted to see them flourish. And it's amazing what talent can do in different environments.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like you go from this team where you're constantly getting hurt because you have no protection bars, then you constantly trying to get the money. They're not paying you because the team is not winning. And then you go somewhere in the very first year, you're you're headed to the championship, the lose to the chiefs. But you're right there. You is right there. And it's just a matter of what one year can make.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And I think that's the battle of proving who's the baddest man in an NFL. But I like one thing, one thing, guys. OK, I want to say one more thing to that, because I don't think people are going to realize and it's much to bring it out that that Saquon, we can talk about all the yards he ran and everything he's done, it's been phenomenal. But one of the best things he's done for the Philadelphia Eagles is he helped keep calm.
Starting point is 00:27:34 The guys like AJ Brown and Devontae. See, Devontae's not gonna say anything anyway. But those first couple games, AJ got one pass here and one pass there and all of that. That could have been a whole nother situation. But he was watching this other dude who was showing selflessness as now the leader of the team. And he was following that,
Starting point is 00:27:54 reading the book and then doing his thing. So I know we won't verbalize that, but those are the kinds of things that I recognize and certainly want to realize and give them credit for it. And also, I think, I think Saquon makes Hurts a much better quarterback. I think if you take that, it speaks to the premierness of Saquon that because of he's so explosive out of the backfield, That because of he so explosive out of the backfill, it seemed like it made it leaves this wide pause Opening for four hurts to run because he wasn't running like this before say Kwan got there So that's another thing just being around great talent makes other people better
Starting point is 00:28:37 my back Yeah, I was gonna say exactly what you said the question is is, will they regret it? Not do they wish them bad? Yes, they regret it. You paid Daniel Jones that money and you didn't want to pay him. OJ used to go off about that shit because they didn't pay Saquon and there wasn't paying a lot of running back. Some of them was like a protest and all that shit about that shit. But yeah, you paid a nigga 40 M's and you didn't want to pay that man.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Now you don't even got the nigga that you paid the 40 M's to. And now you don't have a quarterback. And now you have to draft the quarterback in the draft. And yeah, so to answer the exact question, will they regret it? They've been regretting it all mother fucker season. Absolutely, absolutely. But Mike made another great point.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Y'all don't have the tools that Philly has for him to flourish. And that's very important. You don't have the quarterback they have, you don't have the offensive line, you don't have the receivers that they have, you don't have the number one defense. All that stuff around Saquon makes them better too. He was great on the Giants, but he's fabulous with the Eagles because the Eagles have a whole complete team. Okay. We're actually gonna go to break Mase, you're in uniform because when we return,
Starting point is 00:29:52 we will talk about the Chiefs. You're in uniform too. This is burnt orange, this is not red. Yes you are. This is not red. You try to sleep. We make that very clear, this is burnt orange. We gonna go to break.
Starting point is 00:30:03 We'll be back. Burnt orange, I like that. Thank you, it's not red. That just sneak over. Welcome back, now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. We're going to skip to Super Bowl Sunday. We now know the Chiefs. Will play the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Underdog has Travis Kelsey at sixty one and a half receiving yards. Do you have him higher or lower Mase? Sixty one receiving yards. Man, that's interesting, cause he didn't get Paul's many touches last game. But I think in the championship, he would, how many? 61 and a half receiving yards. I'm gonna go lower. He'll be right there, but lower.
Starting point is 00:30:59 They'll need more though for him to win. Okay. Cam. I'm gonna go high. Okay. Cam. I'm going to go high. Okay. Xavier worthy is at 54 and a half receiving yards. Do you have them higher or lower? Cam. I'm lower.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Hey, Mace. Okay. Jaylen hurts is at 210 and a half passing yards. Do you have them higher or lower? Mace. Higher. Cam. What's the number set?
Starting point is 00:31:26 210 and a half passing yards for Jalen Hurts. Lower. OK. You guys like these picks. Remember, you always get a free pick if you're not already an underdog. So make sure to support the show. Sign up now and you can make your picks, too. So the Chiefs are going back to the Super Bowl for the third time in a row after reading the bills 32 to 29. Mike, at any point, did you think the bills had a chance to win this game?
Starting point is 00:31:57 I told the bills had a chance early on, you know, but, but she did what they do. And I'm gonna tell you once they cracked over that 21, 22 points and then they went, I knew they were gonna win the game. Cause I mean, they hadn't scored 29, 30 points in many games this year. And, and, and they put it up today. So you know, and it came down to the same thing. It always comes down to making those few plays late in the game and Patrick Mahone does just what he needs to do to win the game. It was 15. I got to give Buffalo credit. They said, okay, we're going to make this
Starting point is 00:32:37 a little bit more difficult on Travis Kelsey. I saw time they put guys right in front of them and bought, you know, and try to jam him at the line and scrimmage so he didn't get free releases to try to slow that down. But Patrick Malone's would always just make a play. He's just a brilliant, brilliant dude. I was telling you earlier,
Starting point is 00:32:59 this dude is just sitting great talent down. Just like, just bossing people. Sit your ass down. You're out. You're out. It's just like Cam was talking about, man. It's his moment and his time and he is dominating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 How could I say this? When it comes to the Chiefs, I think the thing about the Chiefs and Patrick Mahone is that he's smarter than the other quarterbacks. I think that's something we don't talk about a lot in football. If you watch the game, it's not just the plays you make like we was talking last week. It's the plays you don't make. This wasn't a great game. It seemed like it was Cook against cook on both sides of the on Phil and
Starting point is 00:33:45 Then it came down to a few plays that it seemed like just Patrick Mahone was making ball all the way through the game It seemed like once the Bills got up they got up probably about like three points or four points I don't remember exactly what it was and And I was nervous for a moment because they, you know, it seemed like every time Patrick Mahomes would score, then the Bills would score again. And number 13, who I don't remember his name, but he was, he was a nightmare for us on, on defense, because it just seemed like every time we got up, they let them beat them back, Phil Paul. So then I was just thinking like, man, is this the game we might lose?
Starting point is 00:34:26 But then it seemed like Patrick Malmes was like, man, just chill out. I got this game and whatever we need to do, we're gonna win. One time he ran a touchdown back and then the next time, it seemed like he ran that same slant play that they ran outright for the quick pass for the first pass for the
Starting point is 00:34:47 the first down in the fourth quarter. And then when they got that that first down in the fourth quarter, I was like, they're probably going to win this. But then it seemed like they was still getting the penalties and stuff like that. And when it all just turned around, it just it just boils down to realistically. Patrick Mahomes is smarter than Josh Allen. Josh Allen is the freak athlete, pause, but when it comes to intelligence, is the plays you don't make and the things you go for and the risks you don't take. And today, I mean yesterday, he just took two places where he took the risk and that was the first down
Starting point is 00:35:26 and the second down of his last possession on the football field and it cost them their ride to the championship because it was in Josh Allen's hands to do something different and he didn't. He put it in somebody else's hand. And maybe that's why Camden passed me the ball in the garden. That's the first thing I thought about, Kelly. You was right. You should've shot it.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Hey, Mase makes one thing on Mase that everybody's gonna bring up. I know he looks so baby face, Patrick Long, and he look like a big old friendly jolly giant, you know, big old jolly. Them mugs are straight, sassy ass assassins. You know, let me tell you, like, like, the play that Josh beat them on in the regular season,
Starting point is 00:36:15 that little roll out quarterback sneak, that's the play. Okay, we're gonna let Patrick Mahomes score that play back on you. You see what I'm saying? It's just sassy shit. That's all that is. That's what they're doing. They're putting the play, oh, you got us on that play.
Starting point is 00:36:30 We gonna show you how much smarter we are than you. We gonna hit you with your own shit in the playoffs. And that's what they were doing. It's fascinating, it really is. And they did outsmart. The last play of the game, right? They held that cornerback blitz on Josh Allen the last play He saw they waited where you waited and even after they put the quarterback blitz And pressured him and made him get rid of ball that tight that dude. I forgot
Starting point is 00:37:02 He should have it was it was in his arms I forgot who it was. He could have caught that ball. He should have caught that ball. He should have caught that ball. It was in his arms. It was in his arms. I think he was tight end of somebody. I said, okay, now DJ like Lamar.
Starting point is 00:37:10 That would have given them a, that would have given them the field goal, at least the opportunity to keep that field goal and tie that game. So, you know, but you're going home just like Lamar, Patrick Mahomes, he's seat your ass down too. That's a bad man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I think, look, when you have the, when you have the, whoever wins, that's just what it boils down to. And Patrick Mahomes is a winner. Proving it time after time after time. But I'm not gonna take away from the brilliance of Josh Allen. Josh Allen had a great game.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You know what's crazy, Mike? You brought it up on your first take on this segment. It's that when they jam them at the, at the, when they're trying to get first down. And I was thinking to myself, this is why Philly practices the tush push pause. Is because they know how to get them yardage, that yardage when you need a yard,
Starting point is 00:38:07 when you need two yards, when you need one and a half yards. They get that. And you can tell Buffalo does not practice that. Because they got jammed two times. I think they got it once and it was close and it could have went either way. But Philly is brilliant pause at that tush pusher. You could tell went either way. But Philly is brilliant,
Starting point is 00:38:26 poor as it that touch pusher, you could tell Buffalo wasn't. Josh Allen had a really good game. He, pardon me, he threw it for 237 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. And I was gonna bring that up as well, Mike. That blitz from a defensive coordinator of Kansas City, he held that all game on the fourth day.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And then Josh Allen still had a chance to make it complete. The kid, he threw that dream, even he threw that dream between three players in his head. That is, with an all out blitz, with no time. So I'm not gonna sit here and say that Josh Allen isn't smart, it wasn't his fault. And that's the credit, not just to Andy Reed,
Starting point is 00:39:12 but Andy Reed's team, even to dial that play up at the end, when you hold that all game to call that blitz, and Josh Allen still gives you a chance to get up to get in a field goal range. So when we sit here and talk about that, we're gonna talk about the winners because that's what really matters and that's what ultimately counts.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And at the end of the game, we always for the last four or five seasons, we sit there and see Josh Allen on the sidelines and can't do anything about it because the Chiefs have the ball and it's in Patrick Mahomes hands. And once it's in Patrick Mahomes hands, you can't do anything about it because the Chiefs have the ball and it's in Patrick Mahomes hands. And once it's in Patrick Mahomes hands, you can't do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's why, to me, and not just this game, just period, when everybody like, this quarterback's better than this quarterback, and this quarterback, then the quarterbacks don't play against each other. You know, even like, and I'm not, I know everybody knows that Cincinnati is my team and all this. You fucking sit there and think about Jamar Chase
Starting point is 00:40:03 and what Joe Burrow did this year. And you sit there, Jamar Chase got the triple crown. And their defense let them down all year. That's why I say football is the ultimate team sport. But Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes until further notice of the King on the mountains, you sit there and think about Eric Bainemy. And you sit there and like, yo, Eric Bainemy,
Starting point is 00:40:24 he's a genius, he's so Bionemy, he's a genius. He's so smart. Yo, he's the one. He leaves, doesn't succeed where he goes, and now he's back coaching college. You sit there and say, well, they got Tyree Kill. He's the cheater. He runs so fast.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Tyree Kill, he's been going as well. And these guys, Travis Kelsey, the core, Patrick Mahomes, it's really four people, five people. It's Travis Kelsey, it's Patrick Mahomes, it's Andy Reid, Taylor Swift and the referees that helped the Kansas City Chiefs. It's Joe Jones. It's Joe Jones. It's Joe Jones.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Anyway, like I was going to say, we've seen the ball drop on the floor. I don't understand how they do instant replay. The ball hit the floor. Everybody seen the ball hit the floor and they don't call the ball hit it on the floor. So niggas they see the whole 60 million people, how many people was watching? Everybody but the referees seen the ball hit the floor.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Mike, did you see the ball hit the floor? Yeah, yes, yes. Okay, okay, so how many, how many, the ball can't hit the floor, Mike. Mike, the ball can't hit the floor. My nigga, my nigga Tom Brady. Let me explain that. I wanna hear your opinion. Brady. Let me explain that now. I want to hear your opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Okay. Let me explain. If I take a back, if the ball's in there and I do a diving catch, I put the ball in, the ball's going to be the first thing that hits the floor even though I caught the ball, it's going to be the ball. The bottle's going to go on. No, no, no. Revgate, Revgate. This is the Revgate. What happened was they both had possession of the ball right here, but they were in the
Starting point is 00:42:16 air and they fell on their shoulder, which mean the ground, but the ball didn't move. Actually, actually the defense had the football, Mike, but I'm a Kansas City fan, so I was just like this. You're right, you're right. The dude on defense had the ball. The dude on defense had the ball. Right, but the offensive do, the offensive do, the offensive do, Paul didn't let that ball go.
Starting point is 00:42:45 He had a, and the rule is, the rule is the tie goes to the offensive dude. So it doesn't matter that you got it first. It only mattered I got in before we touched that ground because the tie goes to the offensive player. And that's why they won that deal. And it is a completely past. Listen, Mike, I'm gonna sit there and say
Starting point is 00:43:08 from another Dallas Cowboy, Tony Romo said he couldn't understand it. Yeah. Tony Romo said the ball hit the floor. Listen, at the end of the day, like I said, a win's a win, man. A win's a win, I'm not knocking it, but everybody's seen it. I don't, but I'm trying to still figure out,
Starting point is 00:43:28 and I did this to the NFL, when Patrick Mahone scores a touchdown, or anybody that scores a touchdown, they're still short Taylor Swift. None of these people are her boyfriend. They just go in the Taylor Swift. I can see Travis Kelsey scoring a touchdown and all that. But the nigga Pat Mahone's the Taylor Swift, I can see Travis Scousey scoring a touchdown and all that, but the nigga Pat Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:43:47 Taylor Swift, Pacheco, Taylor Swift, who else, Andy Reid, Taylor Swift. We know what the fuck is going on and I'm not gonna sit here and say, I have to say something because we're the voice of the people who can't say nothing. They win, they win, I'm not knocking it, but we seen the ball hit the floor, man.
Starting point is 00:44:06 It was a time like, Des Brian complained against Green Bay. The ball hit the floor. You know what I'm talking about? You know that play I'm talking about? Yeah, that was a catch too. Oh no, come on. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:44:19 All right. My bad murder. My bad. Let's move on. This and that was Dallas shit going on. Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop. Your bad murder. Y'all didn't see that. That damn thing. Wow, it balance is going up. Stop stop stop. That Dez is a very sad, he's not a cat.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Wait wait wait. If you go back to that play. Dez reached up grabbed that ball. Dez put it in his arm and reached out. That's a football move. That's a football move. The ball hit the floor Mike. The ball was between his arms.
Starting point is 00:44:44 His arm hit the floor. And the ball, now that ball did move. That ball moved. So if the airbag touched the floor, it would be incomplete. But the ball was between his elbow and it never took. I watched that a billion times. I'm just saying. Mike, so at what point is it refgate?
Starting point is 00:45:02 At what point is it refgate? At what point is it refgate? When does it become refgate? But what I would I say is this murder. And this is what I say. This is what I say, right? This is what I say. And we talk about this, I believe, last week or the week before last. I'm not because I'm because of my celebrity and I'm pretty sure Mike and I'm pretty sure as you murder.
Starting point is 00:45:29 If somebody, if I walk in a restaurant and they want to give me a free meal, cause I'm camera and I'm not going to say no, I want to pay. I walk in the sneaker store and they'd be like, hey, take your extra pair of sneakers if you want, can't just pull up. I'm not going gonna turn it down. And when South Kansas City has this statue,
Starting point is 00:45:49 you can't get mad at it. The roughs, but I'm gonna go get, that's the way it go. That's the way it go, to a further notice. And where is it a great stat, baby, if you can get away with it? Get away with it. I can't get away with it. Yeah, exactly. Can't get away with it. Get away with it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Exactly. Can't work you with that. Exactly. Real quick, Mike, so yeah, to your point, you were talking about Titan, Dahl, and King Cade, so he actually is facing a lot of backlash for catching that pass and then dropping it, even though I think it does come down to the Bills team as a whole, not just one player, though that was a crucial catch for him to make. But this kind of brings us to a conversation about Josh Allen. We know that there is a lot of pressure on him to win this game,
Starting point is 00:46:32 especially because people always say, Josh Allen, you can't get the job done. So given again that he didn't get the job done. Does this game in particular make you view him different, Mike? Or do you feel like, you know, it's okay? Maybe there's next season. Like, how do you view Josh Allen after the way he performed in this game, even though he played well, but they still lost? Yeah, he played great.
Starting point is 00:46:54 He played great. I view him, you know, just like everybody else do. Peyman and they view the other guys to homebred. You keep trying, but he come up short. This is what that is. He's a great talent and I enjoy the battle because in order to have greatness, you got to have something to climb the hell over and Patrick Mahomes are climbing over great players. That's what makes greatness. So Josh, in order to leave, I'm a great player and he great-ness, he has to climb back over
Starting point is 00:47:31 them other brothers. That's the reality of the game. It's prison mentality on NFL field. That's the reality. That's what it is. And so yeah, I love what he does. I love the type of player he is. You can't question. Buffalo has a hell of a talent,
Starting point is 00:47:48 but you just a butt until you can beat that nigga butt. Yeah, that was wild, Mike. But this is what I would say about Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a- Oh, let me get a pause in there, pause. Yeah, he's a phenomenal... Delayed pause, Mike. Delayed pause. Delayed pausing, son.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. Yeah, Josh Allen is a phenomenal talent. I mean, he has all the attributes of a great quarterback. And I wasn't... I want to clarify something. I was not saying he's not smart. I was saying that Patrick Mahomes is smarter than him because when it came down to those, those last plays
Starting point is 00:48:31 that he had, the pass that he chose to throw that the guy dropped, it was two plays before that where he went to someone else for the run. And I think they did something else. And I think that was the time for him. Those two plays could have made a difference in the entire season because when it comes down to it, somebody was supposed to tell him, no, take this, take this game into your own hands.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You have the ability to make plays. And right now we need a play. We need you to run the ball or do whatever is necessary to get us to this first down. And I think that that's what I would have been looking for from him. That's why I said, you know, I shout out to the people that when they're in that position,
Starting point is 00:49:16 they take it upon themselves to see if they can make it happen. Because you don't want to throw that ball and then somebody drop it. And you did your part by delivering the pass, but they didn't do their part by catching it. And that happened in both games with two dynamic quarterbacks. Him and Lamar were at the liberty of somebody dropping the ball when they both are go get it players and people that could make playground.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I mean, football field plays, they could have used their legs, pause and ran and got the first down. And I believe Josh Allen could have done whatever he wanted to do against the chiefs, but he chose to put it in somebody else's hand. And that's what if you're watching this, that's what I'm looking for you to do next time. That's the only way you win is if you take it into your own hands. Pause. Yeah, listen, to answer that question, I was phenomenal, but we ought to think of, this goes back to what I said earlier, and you know, I'm way more knowledgeable on basketball than football, and that's why we have people like Mike Irvin up here. And that's why we bring in the people who know more than us,
Starting point is 00:50:29 even though we know what we do know. But. He's he's Charles Barkley, he's Reggie Miller, he's Patrick Ewing. He's all the people that could not win against Michael Jordan. Barkley is not going to like that killer. It's a fact. Was Charles Barclay great? Charles Barclay is a league MVP. Reggie Mills' sensational talent. Patrick Ewing was one of the greatest centers to play the game.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Let's think about Carl Malone. Third, I believe, was second to third, and all time leading scorer is John Stockton, top three in assists. These are people that ran into Michael Jordan, and Michael Jordan made their championship life disappear. Are they not great players? Are they not Hall of Famers? Yes they are. The Clyde Drexler, put him in there too.
Starting point is 00:51:22 The Clyde Drexler of Portland. Yeah, yeah. All in there. Clyde Drexler put him in there too. The Clyde Drexler in Portland. Yeah, yeah. Clyde Drexler too. Absolutely. But see, let me tell you something about Clyde Drexler though, Mike. Clyde snuck down to Houston and got one where Mike was missing.
Starting point is 00:51:37 He was there. You know, Mike took a two year. Mike, see, that's another thing my name Kenny Smith, shout out to Kenny Smith. Those two years that Mike took off after he retired after winning three, that Houston team went two back to back. And Kenny Smith always says that that Houston team
Starting point is 00:51:55 would have beat the Bulls anyway, even if Mike was playing. Kenny, you my man, but you wildin'. Kenny, Kenny, you wildin'. Yeah, yeah, Kenny wildin'. That's that New York probato. We could have beat everybody. Yeah, yeah. Well, why you interviewed him when he came back?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, yeah. Akeem was a bad boy, though. Akeem was a bad boy. There came nobody. No, listen. Akeem was doing something all new at that center position, boy, with that drop step. He was putting on people.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Akim was a new dude. No, what I'm saying is, Akim to me probably has the best footwork as a center. Like people, you know, you had Kobe Bryant and a lot of NBA players in the off season to go work with Akim just to get their footwork together. So I think I got Akeem top three centers ever. I don't know what order I put it in, but you know, you got to think about this.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Akeem sent Shaq home in the championship. Shaq actually swept them niggas. Akeem back. But to the point, but my point being is you was there all them years, Mike Woodrow was there too. You won when he wasn't there. So the way like the king wasn't there, but Mike wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He was around when Mike was there. He won when Mike wasn't there. So he might've fucked the king shit up too, if he would've kept playing them two years, a year and a half, a year and three quarters when he took off. But yeah, that's back to the answer to the question is that, yeah, Josh Allen is in that convo with those people who are great, who just can't get past Patrick Holmes until further notice. And look, they got a lot more years to come. And the reason this is so tough for football players as opposed to basketball players, my opinion, is because it's not a series.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You can't come back next game and be like, make adjustments for this or make adjustments for that. It's a long off season and not just a long off season. It's a long football season to even get back to the point where you're at now. You know, they beat Kansas City talking about Buffalo earlier this year. And I told everybody, great, it's the regular season. It sounds good today, but let's see what happens when the playoffs happen. And even to get back to this point, Mace made this point earlier, he wasn't talking about Josh Allen, but he's talking about Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And he's correct. And that's where we'll see how good Jaden Daniels is because it's not easy to get back to where we're talking about has Josh Allen got back to this point repeatedly? Absolutely. That's why I think he's great, but you're just running into people that's greater. Yeah. Football is definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Let me get one last thing. I want to say one last thing. One last thing to you, on the basketball too. Now what made Michael special? And why I'm with you, Cam, even if it was Elijah Wong. Because they had a bad joker in Utah named Carmelo, right? With John Stockton. And I mean, Carmelo and 2 Mark.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I said Carmelo with John Stockton, yeah? Right, right, right. But what Jordan would always do that helped because Carmalone was killing everybody else. But Jordan, Brian Russell, whatever, he'd lag off that joker and say, let me see you beat. And then remember he made those crucial steals from Carmalone late in the game, doubling.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It was an untimely double. Nobody expected that double. And George just broke off and stole the game. Plays like that, you had to be making those kind of plays on King Elijah. You see what I'm saying? So I would just agree with what you're saying because he played at a different level.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Everybody only thinks about it offensively, but he played on both hands that way, is what I'm saying. That made Michael different. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So last question before we wrap.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Mike, y'all got a new head coach in Brian Schottenheimer. So he's been with Dallas for the last three seasons, joining as an analyst before becoming the offensive coordinator in 2023. He has never been a head coach in his 28 year career in football. Mike, do you like this decision? Do you like him as a new head coach? How are we feeling? What are we thinking about this move for the Cowboys?
Starting point is 00:56:13 I told y'all I woke up Friday getting over the flu and then I was here with this do do. That's what I think of the decision. It was a do do decision. It was, what do you mean? I mean, with this doo-doo. That's what I think of the decision. It was a doo-doo decision. It was, what do you mean? I mean, it was an opportunity here. There was an opportunity for everything. I went into this.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I went into this, talking about this earlier on my channel. Like, listen, we lost an opportunity. And this was more than just losing football games. I Tell people about Sears and robots isn't robots used to be big. These be huge Sears and robot they were they weren't what Amazon is right now But they got stuck in a damn wave and they wouldn't pull that shit about a magazine and put it on the internet Okay, so you stuck in your way since robot was an empire an empire Big as I don't know what nobody thought anybody ever overcome them and they wouldn't move forward with the signs
Starting point is 00:57:17 They were no more Amazon came in. I said, okay, you don't want to move forward the time Blockbuster Netflix all they came in. I said, okay, you don't want to move forward with the time. Blockbuster, Netflix, all of them came in there. Blockbuster, it was empire. You see, if you don't move forward with the time, you lose. Right now, the Cowboys have had 30 years of not having a championship. So, life expectancy is 100 years old, if you're lucky, that means a third of Cowboys Nation has never felt the glory of a championship story. How do you pass down something that you don't love or that you don't need or that you never felt?
Starting point is 00:57:56 You want to pass down love, you got to feel that to pass that down. A whole generation, another 10 years, 40 years is a generation. I mean, I think we're in danger of losing, of that Monica really being snatched off our back as America's team because you haven't been there in so long.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So there's a lot of things that I thought are highly like Deon Sanders could have helped. If you ain't gonna play great on the football field, get with these young jokers. Let's win in the social media world. Ain't no damn other coach I can play over there. I'm telling you, right?
Starting point is 00:58:37 The third facet, I'll put it that way, the third facet of Cowboys Nation, that 30, zero to 30 has never seen it, but they've never seen the glory. How can they love it? And Dion at least runs all of this social media stuff. Why we can be selling to them this way? If we can't sell them championships,
Starting point is 00:59:03 let's sell them this way. We lost a hell of an opportunity. It was a dumb decision. I don't know. I don't know the coach. So I can't, you know, and I can't snatch the star off my heart. So I got to ride with this joker. I hope I'm wrong, but I know I'm not. I know I'm not. Here's my big problem. How do you get something new when you're doing the same something you used to do? How do you get something new when you're doing the same something you used to do?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Okay, this coach is coach from inside. So now, the problem is you didn't have discipline. You were the fourth most penalized team. So, if now coach comes in and say, hey man, we're gonna start running laps when we have false starts, and we're gonna get fined. You know what the nigger's gonna say? Ah dude, now you gonna change?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Oh, you're gonna have like a whole afternoon to get to your job, and then you're gonna lose the locker room. That's what I worry about, you know? So who's going to bring the discipline? How can you get that done? So, I hope it worked as I said, but I doubted and I know pretty much how to win them damn championships.
Starting point is 01:00:15 This ain't it. I hope I'm wrong though. I hope I'm wrong and I gotta ride it out. Real quick, Mike, you don't wanna be a coach? Like you never wanna be a coach? Like you never want to be a coach? You know, me being a coach, I would be a great coach. We'll be undefeated, but being somebody that's going to go through all the grades that I got out there.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And I'm like, hey, now I know Michael Irvin is stepping down as coach at the time. Sorry with all that. No, I don't know, man. That's a whole different thing, man. I thought we had the right guy and I could be right there. I could have be like, no, don't take this wrong. I'm just saying it to be funny,
Starting point is 01:00:55 but I could be like Deon's Elon Musk to his Trump, you know, right there with him as he run that thing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And then you ain't got to worry about digging up my grades because Deion, he's pretty good. He ain't got no more skeletons like that. You already know about his stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:13 See what I'm saying? So I had a plan. And it boxed my damn plan. That's what they did. I had a plan. And it didn't work out. Man. Man, oh man, it happens. Well, Cowboys Nation, good luck.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't have nothing to say about Cowboys. I don't know if they're going to let two niggas run the building, Mike, in Dallas. So they get in Dallas is crazy. But what I will say is this, at least at least Dion didn't fool anybody. I thought he was going to go somewhere. I see the Raiders hired Pete Carroll, which really hurt me bad because I wanted to go to the damn Raider games with Dion. More than I know Dallas for you.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I was thinking the Raiders and then they didn't fire their coach in New York. So I was like, at least we got less. See what happens to Raiders and then they didn't fire their coach in New York. So I was like, at least we got less sea robbers, the Raiders. But the problem stuck. What he said he was going to do for us. Dallas is concerned. I don't know this coach. If you don't know him, you know, they're showing. Well, I don't know. But I will have an interest in the stat that's been flowing around since last night
Starting point is 01:02:22 is that the Dallas Cowboys has not made the NFC conference game and since then, Jalen Daniels and Jalen Hurts wasn't even, they're 24 and 26 years old. And y'all guys haven't made it in 30. And that's what I'm saying. That's a whole generation that knows nothing about anything. That's right there what I'm worried about. And I'm serious when I talk about it,
Starting point is 01:02:48 because what does that do? If that series empire falls, or that blockbuster empire falls, so does mine. I put my heart work into that shit. You know what I mean? I helped to be a part of that. And these jokers have it now, and they are not running right,
Starting point is 01:03:06 and they don't run well. And I need them to step their damn game up and overcome whatever coaching decision has been made. And prove to me I'm wrong. I want to see why these niggas step up and say we're gonna show that black nigga he ain't the only one to win the championship and we're gonna win one.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Please show me, show this black nigga. That's what I want him to do. And listen, Mike, the last thing I'll say is this is that. Is that, one thing, and I understand your fear, but as far as Dallas Cowboys being America's team, it's not gonna not be America's team because your fans are delusional. And so are the New York Knicks fans, delusional.
Starting point is 01:03:46 They haven't won in 50 something years. They're delusional. And your fans are beyond delusional. You know, I have a house in Jersey. And on my, well not on my block, a couple blocks down, I take the street to go to the highway. And it disturbs me to see big ass, like you know the American flag shit?
Starting point is 01:04:05 They got Dallas Cowboy flags. I'm literally about 12 minutes from Giant Stadium and there's Dallas Cowboy fucking flags hanging out of people's houses. You ain't gotta worry about them delusional ass fucking fans. Y'all ain't going nowhere for a minute. Y'all are all delusional. Right. And I speak for my people.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I speak for my people. They deserve better. They deserve better, man. These niggas we got, they just take. They take. They need to deliver something back to them people you just talked about because they really are the best fans in the world. Okay, what y'all say?
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. Facts. Cause y'all are not even playing and somehow finding a way to lose. And we don't need that, Mike. We don't need that for y'all and your people. So thank y'all for watching!

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