IT IS WHAT IT IS - SEASON 2 FINALE WITH MAURICE CLARETT & STORIES ABOUT RUCKER PARK | EP.75

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one & the finale for season 2 of IIWII ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate,... review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. I don't trust myself, your jewelry. I get it. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with their hosts, Mace and Cam.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Murder, what up, man? What's good, man? What's good, man? How you doing? You got your nails getting done. Yeah, man, my nail tech had to come in. She's a little late. What up, Em? You know, if you're out here on the West Coast
Starting point is 00:01:01 and need a nail tech, she's available. And pardon the little clip. My nails ain't been done in about two weeks because she's been so busy. So I know y'all may hear a little click and it ain't like cold for Martin. Yeah, it's really rough over there. What's going on over there? Yeah. What's going on? He said he said a little while. It do, man.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I'm mad at myself. I asked her, I said, yo, you want to dip it in some water? She's like, nah, man. I'm like, yo, this sound like they do need to be dipped in some water. But it'll only be a minute. Sorry about the little clicking and all that, man. I'm really mad at myself. All right, cool, man. a minute sorry about the little clicking and all that man I'm really mad at myself alright alright cool man
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm sorry about that it was good man yo this the last episode of season two man I know you starting on pause with a dandy dipping in water
Starting point is 00:01:57 yeah dipping in water what a way to go you know it's crazy I know I know I'm telling you now I'm telling you right now since since I caught that dunk What a way to go. You know it's crazy. I know. I know. I'm telling you now.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'm telling you right now. Since I caught that dunk on you the other day, this nigga been sitting closer to me no more. If you don't think I'm watching him, I'm up for a refill. This nigga king. I've been noticing he's trying. He ain't been sitting that close to me lately since the dunk. I don't know which I got planned. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I know it's a 2-1-2 now because Tito launched you. So I'm like, why is he sitting this close to me? I don't know if you know I know Karate. Everybody's on the edge. It's a weird energy. Oh, man. Well, we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo C.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Mo was good. Was good, Mo. Everything. Life's great, man. Good, man. Having a great week. Yeah, that's what's up, man. Just want to tell you, you know, you've been here the whole season, too, with us.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We appreciate you, man. And we couldn't have had a better college analyst and not even a college analyst, a better person on the show besides you, man. And we just want to tell you thank you. And more importantly
Starting point is 00:03:14 than thanking you, we want to thank Wifey for letting you do this because I know this cutting into her time every week. So, and she's a part of making the shirts and part of the
Starting point is 00:03:24 Maurice Clorette team. So tell her,'s a part of making the shirts and part of the Maurice Clorette team. So tell her, we never see her or the babies, but wish them happy holidays and we appreciate everything you
Starting point is 00:03:32 and your family contribute to the show. Nah, I appreciate that, but, you know, hit her with a little pink horsepower
Starting point is 00:03:41 after the show and she be alright. Woo! Woo! Woo! M Mostie came home. He came home. He came home, man. That's what's up, man. Thank you so much, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I appreciate the opportunity. Come on, man. We got much more to do outside of this, man. Definitely. Okay. So let's start with some insight. Let's talk about leveraging your brand. How do you think someone, especially like a student athlete can do that? Yeah, this, uh, this, this is a response, man, from, uh, it was a guy on Twitter and, uh, he was like, uh, he was talking to me and he asked a question about, um, like me associate myself with Ohio state. Right. And he was like he was talking to me and he asked a question about like me associate myself with Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Right. And he was saying like in a funny way. And I was like, my man, I don't think that you get it. Right. And I'll connect these conversations to other stuff that we plan on talking about in the show. And I said, man, when these people come to you and they come and get you out of high school, like you see a lot of these high school kids, they go into their parents' houses and they promise and all these things and what they'll do to these kids. Right. And the fact of the matter is, is that there's only a small percentage of guys who are going to make it to the NFL, make it to the NBA or make it to be professional. And for those who don't make it, man, you have to leverage all of your experiences and everything that you have prior to. all of your experiences and everything that you have prior to. And so in my case, Ohio State was how everybody knew me. And it's like anybody who's had any experience where you've created value into the world, if you choose to be bitter and stay away from people or be resentful for things that
Starting point is 00:05:19 happened in your past and not associate yourself or even know how to leverage it, you won't get everything from what the university said that they were going to give you. And in my case, I associate myself with the brand to go around, to do business, to own companies, to buy real estate, to meet new people, to have conversational pieces. And where the dude thought he was clowning me from associating myself with the brand, I said, nah, bro, you ain't getting it. There's a lot of people who leave these universities and never get nothing from them. And so what I would say is that, you know, just shifting perspective, when you can go to these universities and things don't work out the way that you intended them to, if you've created some value and people know you and you create like a memory for them, learn how to leverage
Starting point is 00:06:04 businesses, steal your identity back from the university. Because believe you me, they represent the 2000, they advertise the 2002 national championship and they still make money, get fans and parade off of that. But I don't get nothing from that. So my way of sort of like taking my brand back from the university is to wear this hat, wear the clothes when I'm going in,
Starting point is 00:06:25 through and out in Ohio. And, you know, that's how I do it. You know what I'm saying? So that was just like a question answered to a kid. But I think it's a larger discussion around guys who leave universities and don't really get everything that they thought that they would get
Starting point is 00:06:36 in the first place. You want to chime in? Well, what I would say is this to that, and that's great how you do it, because that's what, you know would say is this to that, and that's great how you do it, because that's really interesting that I'm sitting here processing what you just said, because now the kids get paid through NIL, and they're still selling stuff from memorabilia or whatever it may be from old championships, whether it's the
Starting point is 00:07:07 Fab Five or the 2002 Ohio State Championship that you are a part of. I'm sitting here thinking to myself while you say this, damn, y'all still can't get paid because it should be a statute of limitations, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Almost like they give you your jersey back. Yeah, yeah. At this point, you could use your jersey. Right. So let's say, for instance, I know they may not retire the Maurice Claret jersey, but is there some way he could,
Starting point is 00:07:37 if somebody wants to buy it, why can't he make 5% off of it or 10% off of it or whatever it is? Because that seems almost super duper unfair that kids can get paid. But being that the era before they was able to get paid, the people still can't get paid. That's very interesting. That's something that we may need to call the O'Bannon brothers about.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Had O'Bannon, they'll go get your money. They'll go get your jersey for you. Yeah, so that's very interesting, man. Back to leverage the initial question, leveraging your brand. It's dope because now you don't necessarily, so you got, let's say for instance, you got the second highest paid NIL, I believe it was Peyton Manning, nephew, one of the Mannings.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He's not even starting yet or anything like that. And I know that that's not maybe the best example because he comes from a family with money. But for instance, let's just say he didn't. You can make four, five, six million before you leave college. So if you don't make it in the NFL, you need to figure out how to invest that money. Because of course it may not last forever. I'm pretty sure they're not that frugal with $6 million going to last you forever, depending on your lifestyle and where you come from. But at least you're able to make money before you go pro because you may have the best
Starting point is 00:09:05 college player in the world who may not pan out in the uh nfl like for instance let's use a great example and not even not even nfl you got a heisman trophy winner charlie ward was it heisman yeah okay he didn't even get drafted he ended up going to the NBA. So if he would have got all that college praise and maybe make six or seven million in college, his NFL career never panned out. Now, I know he still went pro, but what if he didn't make it in the NBA? At least he could have had some money leaving college
Starting point is 00:09:38 to figure out what he wanted to do next after his college career. Now, a lot of 19-year-old, 19, 20, 21-year-old, old in the 90s, early 2000s, even the early 2010s or mid-2010s don't have that much business savvy, but we talked about this the other day, me, Mason Stat, about capitalizing off other people's mistakes and seeing where people go wrong and what not to do and what may work for you or anything else. This is such a great question because there's multiple answers and leveraging your own brand has, like I said, there's multiple answers. I'm sitting here brainstorming while I'm talking to you.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like, you see, from your perspective, you're saying, fuck that. I'm going to get my two cents from when niggas ain't give me my two cents. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Fuck that. I'm throwing an Ohio hat on. I'm throwing an Ohio State hat on. I'm going to wear my jersey. Whatever you can do because you saying, fuck that. They making money off of on. I'm going to wear my jersey. Whatever you can do, because you saying, fuck that. They making money off of me. I'm going to figure out how to get some of that back. So, where a kid today may not necessarily have to do what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So... Yeah, he's going to get his money up front. No, so... No, I'm literally like, and I say it with no pun intended, I'm going to get mine regardless, right? Yeah, there you go. So they not about to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. Yeah, baby. So they not about to associate with me. They not about to deal with me. But it's no difference that, imagine y'all trying to deny y'all past and disassociate everything that y'all ever been through. And somebody get mad at y'all for leveraging everything that y'all been through, what y'all doing now?
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's the same thing. But you have so many people who become bitter and they'll try to block certain parts of their life off and say, nah, man, this is who I am.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This is what I did. And so I'm just getting what they promised us. You know what I'm saying? And that was like my... Mo, you just get saying? I like that. Yeah. Mo, that's crazy to think about because that's where I am right now.
Starting point is 00:11:56 That's what me and Killer been talking about behind the scenes. How do I leverage my past when all this craziness going on? I still need to get what I was supposed to get. I understand y'all got a case going on. I still need what I was promised. Yeah, exactly. Of 40 acres, you know? Yeah, yeah, the reparations.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, the reparations. Yeah, look, you know what's funny? Listen, it's funny. Your shit came through, and then the other shit came through. Like, yo, why this happening when I'm about to get what I'm supposed to get? Yeah. I'm about to get on a plane. I'm like, how do I leverage this, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah, I'm going to keep it 100. I know you usually give me permission, but I ain't saying shit. All right. All right, damn, Moe, keep talking, you know? Keep talking. I know Moe does usually give me, that's a green light for me to go, but I ain't going. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, I'm thinking, how do I get my reparations you know yeah that's that's an incredible you know that's what I said it's really a lot you know
Starting point is 00:13:10 it's like I said because the question is for everybody like you can like you know like we just talked about
Starting point is 00:13:17 the Mannons or Shador Sanders or anybody now who's not a problem but yeah others Moe and Mace
Starting point is 00:13:23 yeah you still selling Dipset merch, you know? How do I get what I was supposed to get? Tell me, Moe. Do I start selling shiny shoes? How do I get my reparations, you know? See the whole thing, bro? You know, let me pull it down so you can see the merch that murder you know this
Starting point is 00:13:45 let me pull it down so you can see the merch that he's referring to if you want to go to Dipstick Couture you can make sure you can see the thing about it was
Starting point is 00:13:54 is that and like I said and if y'all haven't haven't gone seen it came out yesterday my interview on All and
Starting point is 00:14:02 All the Smoke with Matt Barnes and my man Stack Fiverr. It was a great interview. Yeah. And I was talking about how we kind of fell out and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So, you know, and I was apologizing and everything we talked about or whatever, I actually sent it to you. But, you know, I was in a fucked up deal. A wild fucked up deal.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And this was my life on the line. See, Mace found another path. And during the, when he found another path, it just happened to be, uh, uh, he was able to take care of himself,
Starting point is 00:14:34 so to speak, through the path he was going on. I, this was it. It was, this is drugs for me. And I'm like, yo,
Starting point is 00:14:41 y'all niggas playing with my life. So, I fought my way, literally, like'all niggas playing with my life so I fought my way literally like like niggas was saying if you ever watched straight out of Compton when Ice Cube went in there with the with the bat and and fucked the office up that was Fisher Price to what I did the epic records shout out to Dane McPherson everybody we cool now but you know what I had to do to get out that deal I was like y'all playing with my life at 22 years old and and it became physical really like I'm not cap it really became physical so that's why I was sitting there saying I was thinking when Mace said that I'm like damn man I
Starting point is 00:15:17 wish me and Mace was speaking well he wasn't in music anymore but if if he was, I was like, damn, the same niggas I bought with me, I kind of took over to get your shit right or whatever. But yo, that's a great question. How do you guys benefit from not being, from getting jerked around, so to speak? If that's not the right term to use, but, but yeah, y'all niggas definitely need reparations. What you was going to say, what you got to tell them to say? Yeah, no, I was just going to like, and there's a ton of people who watch this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:15:58 And, and I get so many direct messages being from former athletes and just a ton of people, right? And as much stuff as you can do, like don't show athletes and just a ton of people, right? And as much stuff as you can do, like don't show up and just show up for the free dinner, the free lunch or the free liquor that they're going to give you. You know what I'm saying? Man, get back down to these universities, man, get yourself invested into like some level of ownership inside of a company that you can either lend your brand to or that you can put some capital into that you can own something.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And that's probably like my biggest gripe with former players with anything like, you know, guys take like pennies, you know, or they take like whatever somebody is going to give them instead of thinking like that. Like when you're an athlete and you're performing out there, right, you got so much ego, you got so much confidence, you have so much, so much you feel like you have to offer. But when it's time to come to business, these dudes get treated like, for lack of better words, slaves. And it's all because like, they'd be happy to be invited to somebody's golf outing or happy to be invited to somebody's nonprofit giveaway or something like that. And it's really me encouraging them saying, hey, man, look, man, you have to buckle down and become more than what you are. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:08 And just somebody who accepts more than scraps from either the fan base, alumni, or somebody who's connected to your program. Dope. Yeah, that was good insight from all parties. On that note, we're going to go to the next question. UCLA coach Chip Kelly has made a lot of comments recently, especially when it comes to trying new things. So Maurice, can you give us your analysis on the message he's
Starting point is 00:17:31 trying to relay? Yeah, the biggest piece that he talked about that I think that Jim Harbaugh has been talking about was that you should separate the actual football team from every other sport, right? And it's sort of like how Notre Dame does it. Notre Dame, when it comes to football, is independent, but then there are other teams, I think they play in the Big East, but if I'm wrong, somebody, I'm sure they'll correct me, right? But he said, man, take these 132 teams, put us in two conferences split between the East and the West and play seven games where you have like an inter-conference teams on your coast. And then to appease the larger TV contracts. And so teams can play other conferences, play seven out of conference games with teams all around the country.
Starting point is 00:18:24 teams all around the country. But the biggest thing he's talking about that Jim Harbaugh talked about that no coaches talked about before outside of these two was share the TV revenue and have these coaches paying or have these schools paying the players. And I thought that when he said that to double down on back of what Harbaugh has said and did for him to say it, it made me realize something. One, I said, man, the only dudes who are going to push this message are like former NFL coaches who had coached in the NFL. They financially set and they just call the stuff for what it is. I don't really see no current college coaches who have been in the system or still feel like that they got years to climb.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I don't see these guys pushing the same message. But the fact that he has so much notoriety, the fact that he's pushing this conversation, and the fact that this entire week, that same viral video has been getting played throughout the week, it just comes to a point where you have to have discussion. And I have like two athletic directors who follow me, right? And when I shared the video inside of my thread, I see they liked it, right? And they may not be the ones to articulate it, but when more people start to talk about stuff like this, like you ask yourself, like, do they become soft? Or are they allowed to then have this conversation and say, OK, this is the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So I don't know. Like, thank God for social media. Thank God for the conversation. Thank God for social media. Thank God for the conversation. And I hope that more athletic directors at least begin to introduce the conversation so you can start to, you know, Well, thanks, Maurice. That was very, very good insight. Okay, moving along.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Former Super Bowl champ Derek Ward was arrested and is facing five second-degree robbery charges. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yo, killer, come on, man. What? You don't hear how loud that is? It's actually nails, man. Yo, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yo, listen. It's flying. I'm usually good at ignoring, but it's going everywhere. No, now niggas is trying to play me. Now y'all trying to play me. My sister's crazy. It's like wood chips, yo.
Starting point is 00:20:24 It's like wood chips you know it's like wood chips flying around yo she's a dirty dick listen she was the last this won't happen again I'll get my schedule together
Starting point is 00:20:39 I apologize my bad y'all I apologize it is kind of loud it's irking me a little bit I can hear it out here, man. You get it out there, right? Nah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I ain't gonna lie. Killa is crazy. My bad. It's kind of irking. She on the left. Thank you, man. My bad. It's irking me too,
Starting point is 00:20:57 but woodchips is wild for us. He definitely got you with that one. Okay. Moving along, former Super Bowl champ Derek Ward was arrested and is facing five second degree robbery charges
Starting point is 00:21:10 for allegedly robbing five businesses. This is just a very open-ended question. Why do you think it's come to this point? Must be the money. I didn't research this topic before we got to it. When did he win the Super Bowl what year?
Starting point is 00:21:29 2008 and what he been doing since? that I don't know yeah I mean listen I don't think he won the Super Bowl and went and robbed a nigga I mean this sounds like clear cut he's fucked up
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't know I didn't even cheat and do any homework you know I couldn't even cheat and do any homework. You know, I couldn't sit here and do the due diligence and find out exactly what's been going on
Starting point is 00:21:50 to his life right now. This sounds like a nigga who's fucked up. What's the exact charges? It just says five second degree robbery charges. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Because he allegedly robbed five businesses. So five second degree robbery charges. Oh, allegedly robbed five businesses so five second degree robbery charges so this was one that's the question Mo was it one night was it
Starting point is 00:22:10 over a course of time was he high and just went crazy yeah so it's two things to it right so I think it was like
Starting point is 00:22:20 anytime you have something wild like this somebody either getting high getting drunk or you know substance use gonna play its role in right? And so when I looked at it, I was like, man, you know, guys get done playing and even when they're playing, they don't, you know, they're not responsible physically with their money. And then when they're done and they got the same lifestyle, you know, stuff started to crumble, the pressure get them, they go back
Starting point is 00:22:44 to who they are, you know? So I've been talking about since the beginning of the season, just improving yourself, but this is a result of it, right? And it made me think, and I don't know how much y'all keep up, just what, I don't know if y'all know Chandler Jones. He's a John Jones little brother, right? And so he's sort of like, he's a lot richer, but he's going through something else online, like to the public. Right. Or he having like just like these episodes and, you know, he been drinking and he been smoking. And then it kind of get me into the space where I'm like, man, just on a on a on a serious note, how being a former athlete not been there. Right. Or you have a mental health issues issues, you having who am I issues,
Starting point is 00:23:29 you having like, how do I transition issues? And just like looking at that stuff, like looking at Derek Ward, I see myself in that where you be in a spot in life and just your life is crazy. It's a mess, right? And then when I look at Chandler Jones, I also look at him. He's a little bit younger than me, but you look at these dudes where they be in these different spots, but it goes to go back to the importance of, man, taking care of yourself while you're in college and taking just life and education serious and planning and preparing. But, you know, this is just another case of that, you know, say you wish that,
Starting point is 00:23:54 you know, my man wasn't in a situation, but I think it's like substance use disorder or some sort of alcohol that got my man jammed up and doing this wild stuff. That's what I'm saying. Was this over a course of time or was this one night? I think it's one night. Yeah, we don't know yet, but it
Starting point is 00:24:10 says he went on a robbery spree and he had no firearms, so he just kind of... Oh, he was fucked up one night. And I don't know his financial situation. And look, I never want to talk about this because both of these guys are like my niggas, my niggas, like super duper my niggas, what Iiggas, like super duper my niggas
Starting point is 00:24:25 when I'm about, what I'm about to talk about. I'm talking about, I'm sorry, I'm going to bring up Gilbert Arenas and Stack Fiverr. Stack Fiverr was just at the crib the other day.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Like Stack Fiverr and Matt Barnes, that's how I was on their show but them, it's more than a show with them niggas and with Gilbert. I have super duper
Starting point is 00:24:41 great, great friendships with them outside of this shit that we do here, all the sports shows and them being former NBA players and everything else, and I seen them, they both had two different perspectives on something. And I was like, damn, I kind of feel both of them. And I know, I was like, I'm just going to mind my business
Starting point is 00:25:00 because them is equally my niggas. Like I told you, Matt Barnes and fucking, Bam Barnes called me he was at Harlem two days ago talking about where the seafood spot at. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, but I want to bring up a topic
Starting point is 00:25:10 that they had two different perspectives on. And I don't know Ward's situation. I don't know if he has money. I don't know if he's fucked up. You know, it's a bunch of celebrities
Starting point is 00:25:21 who shoplift with millions of dollars. It just gives them a thrill. I forget that white girl's name. No disrespect. I'm making it a color thing. But I put in a couple bars some years ago. She's a millionaire, but she gets a high on shoplifting. I don't know what it's about.
Starting point is 00:25:44 My man in the booth, he know who I'm talking about in there. I don't know what it's about. You know, everything, my man in the booth, he know what I'm talking about in there. I can't think of a name, but what I was going to say is, I don't know his financial situation, but I'll just say this. And it sounds like he's all right. It might sound like he just was fucked up one night, but I'll bring this into play as well. as well. So, Gilbert Arenas said that
Starting point is 00:26:04 it was a topic to where would you rather get 300 million and no championship or 50 million and leave your career with a championship?
Starting point is 00:26:15 And Gilbert Arenas take was give him the 300 million and no championship. And Stack 5 perspective was, nigga, I want to be a champion. I'll take the 50 million.
Starting point is 00:26:27 He said, we from the hood. You know, 50 million, we'll make it look like 200 million. So Gilbert Arenas went back. You know, they wasn't coming at each other, but they'll go on their live, I mean, on their feed. So I'm sitting there going,
Starting point is 00:26:41 the couple days looking at both, they feel like, damn, I wish these niggas would stop, man. I love both these niggas. I would take the three. Yeah, so Gilbert Arenas went on his, back to his page,
Starting point is 00:26:51 you know, because they're not saying each other's name. Yeah. But you know what they're talking about. So Gilbert Arenas went back and said,
Starting point is 00:26:56 he went online and said, NBA champions, championship ring, $2,200 right now. So niggas, niggas who was fucked up who had NBA championship rings was selling their rings.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And I've seen both sides of the equation and the reason I bring this up is because the first thing that we said before this Robbins spree
Starting point is 00:27:18 and like I said I don't know his financial situation He was a champ. The Super Bowl champ. Super Bowl champ. That's the first that's how you lead it off. So you sit there and lead it off. The Super Bowl champ. That's how you lead it off. So you sit there and lead it off
Starting point is 00:27:28 and say Super Bowl champ. Next thing you think is he broke, fucked up, crazy, whatever. Something happened. But Dan Marino ain't got no championship and you don't hear about this shit with Dan Marino. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:46 So, I'm not going to even give my opinion on... Yeah, they did say this guy beat on Tom Brady in 2008 and next year he was cut. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:56 This is the shit they bring up. So, I'm not going to give my opinion on Gilbert's take or Sack 5 take even though I got one. But,
Starting point is 00:28:03 you know, them is my niggas so I'm not going to give what I really take. Because I got an opinion, but I mind my business. Which one were you taking, the 50 or the 300? That's why I'm not giving an opinion. I mind my business. I'll be with you. Hey, man, I'm taking the 300.
Starting point is 00:28:20 All right, no killer going to take the 300. That nigga definitely taking the 300. All right, no killer going to take the 300. That nigga definitely taking the 300. If anybody taking the 300, killer's taking the 300.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Killer, buy my championship. Yo, we from Harlem. I'm taking the 300. I'll buy a championship. Yeah, man,
Starting point is 00:28:46 but I understand Stackify point of view as well, you know what I'm saying? No, I understood it from Titletown. I get it. Yeah, just all you talking about is Titletown.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I understand exactly what he's saying. Yeah, but we led this segment off with saying Super Bowl champ, so that's why I bought that situation up. Yeah, nigga was a champ.
Starting point is 00:29:05 They beat Tom Brady 2008. He gets cut. He get cut, you know, shipped over to the Texans. That don't work out. And here we are in robbery with the ring. This ring might be up for sale too. For all we know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And last topic before we go to break, there is a conversation circulating from Smush Parker where he revealed Kobe Bryant wouldn't talk to him for two seasons even though he had a locker next to him. He said he tried to have
Starting point is 00:29:34 a regular chat with him about football and Kobe told him, you can't talk to me. You need more accolades under your belt. He said he was dead serious and that set the tone.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Thoughts? Yo, Mo, before me and Maze give our opinion, was you that good in college that you ever told a nigga, yo, don't talk to me till further notice? I know how I told some niggas that.
Starting point is 00:30:06 When I say my man, that's the epitome of mama mentality. When I see in the interview, I laugh, right? And Smush Parker looked hurt when he was talking about it, right? And I said, man, I just don't know what I would do
Starting point is 00:30:20 if I was next to somebody and you view yourself as a peer because y'all both in the same league and then a man look you straight in the face and tell you don't talk to him like basically you on the team but we ain't in the same space at the professional level I can see
Starting point is 00:30:36 you do that to a dude at the collegiate level and because you know you going pro but when you do it at the professional level it made me just laugh and chuckle I said man this dude Kobe was a real killer like me just laugh and chuckle. I said, man, this dude, Kobe, was a real killer. Like, for you to tell your teammate that, I said, this dude was ice cold, bro. He was here to play basketball, and that was it. When is Kobe's birthday?
Starting point is 00:30:55 That sounds like something I would have said. Yep, August 23rd. Now you and Kobe the same sign. Here we go. I knew it. I knew it. August 27th. Kill it you and Kobe the same sign here we go I knew it I knew it August 27th kill it I know your birthday
Starting point is 00:31:09 I know when your birthday that's why I don't believe I think that was premeditated I think you knew when Kobe's birthday was before this and now
Starting point is 00:31:19 if that's the case me and Michael Jordan is Aquarius so how do you want to do it if you know that's the case, me and Michael Jordan is Aquarius. How do you want to do it? That's what we doing. Me and Mike's Aquarius. If that's what we doing, we going off sides.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Me and Mike and you and Kobe. Yeah, yeah. Me, Kobe, and Michael Jackson. Oh, that's a good one. You want to get, now we doing this. All right. Bet. When we come back from break, I'm going to fly somebody. Since we on Michael.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't even know You can't really Well Prince was an Aquarius too Since we doing that Okay Nah I don't know if Prince I don't know I'm just making shit up Mike and Aquarius dog
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't know if Prince Look I'ma be honest with you man The nigga This Look Smush Alright cool Alright fuck it This has to be said First of, man. The nigga, this, look, smush. All right, cool. All right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 This has to be said. First of all, I heard way worse Kobe stories. Yeah. I heard way worse shit from better players. Way worse shit like, yo, from Kobe. Kobe used to say, Shaq, you're fat, and you didn't come in shape this year, and we're not going to win unless you get in shape.
Starting point is 00:32:40 He sit there and tells Ron Artest, when Ron Artest comes to the Lakers, you're replacing Trevor Ariza. And he was very important to this team. So you better be here early and do what you're supposed to do and be the official Laker that you're supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You know, so this is why towards the end of Kobe career, and this is where to me separates LeBron from Kobe and not basketball-wise, LeBron the GM. Yeah. I'm not going to be the asshole because I want people to come play me. You couldn't find nobody who wanted to come play with Kobe
Starting point is 00:33:17 towards the end of his career. It was just too much to deal with stories like this. And you'd be like, man, I ain't going to the Lakers, man. It's just too much to deal with stories like this. And you'd be like, man, I ain't going to like this, man. It's just too much to deal with from this nigga. So LeBron, to a certain extent, he has camaraderie with his teammates. He educates them more. I see his facial expressions sometimes. He'd be like, man, I want to fuck this nigga up.
Starting point is 00:33:39 You see, like, did you see the play the other night when he threw the pass to Anthony Davis? And Anthony Davis was limping. Did you see that shit? It's like LeBron, like, yo, it's like almost, and shout out to my nigga. But when J.R. Smith was off the Henny and he got the rebound and was about to go to the alpha basket, LeBron was like, yo, what are you doing? But you know, LeBron probably sees that like, yo, I got to calm down because I want people
Starting point is 00:34:03 to come play on me. I'll say this, man. And Smush is from New York. We talked about Austin Reeves yesterday with Mark Jackson and Mark Jackson said he was, it'd be a great team for, he'll be a great player for some NBA team.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And Mason, myself, pardon me, said that Austin Reeves, pardon me, I said Austin Reeves, Austin Rivers, excuse me not austin reese austin rivers doc rivers son ain't shit and we had to leave the show disagreeing with mark jackson after we had a great show we had 58 great minutes with mark jackson then he said that shit and we was like mark we're gonna end the show on a bad note because I have to agree with Mace and say Austin Rivers ain't shit. And the reason I'm bringing that up is because Smush Park is from New York
Starting point is 00:34:51 and you're worse than Austin Rivers. You really ain't shit. So at the end of the day, I fuck with you Smush. I know you. You my man. I think I could beat you. I think if you went to the Lakers, I had a chance. Emer had a chance to go to the Lakers. We just was shorter than you. I think if you went to the Lakers, I had a chance. Emery had a chance to go to the Lakers. We just was shorter than you. You lucky Kobe ain't slapped the shit out you, nigga. Even trying to speak to him.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Average you about a double, double, and six assists before you speak to that man. That's the best bet that you could do. It had to be said, and I hate to do this
Starting point is 00:35:20 to a native New Yorker, but yo, you could have kept that story to yourself. That shit wasn't like you deserve. You went to Fordham with A-Butter.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Like, A-Butter, my nigga, you went to Fordham University. You lucky you made it to the NBA. Yeah, told me to owe you nothing, nigga. Yeah, he don't know you, man. I didn't know you.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I know you're sneaking in the league every day, bitch. That's a fact, man. So you could have kept that story to yourself, bitch. That's a fact, man. So you could have kept that story to yourself, man. You have more points in the NBA than me. I don't know about who else. You know, I don't really. The only thing I remember is that you played for the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I can't remember a highlight, a dunk, a three-point, a buzzer beater. Do you remember anything? I remember Kobe saying, Kobe told Steve Nash, this nigga snuck in the league. Oh, yeah. Shit like that. Don DeMarco. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Kobe said, yeah, this nigga snuck in the league. So, sorry, Smusha. I think Doc Rivers is better than you, and I don't think he's that good. You think Rivers is better than Smush? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to give him that. I'm going to give him better than Smush.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You think Smush is just as good as Rivers? No, I don't know about that. Because Rivers was nice in high school I thought he was gonna be one of the ones yeah and then he had a longer
Starting point is 00:36:48 you know he's probably about his 10th or 11th year in the NBA right now I mean don't get me wrong he's a good journeyman he's a good journeyman he's I mean
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'm not mad at him it's a 7th or 8th player off the off the bench my only problems with Rivers is that he says things when he's off the court
Starting point is 00:37:05 that he's not good enough to say. Like you're, you say, well, the league isn't doing this. And, and look at how long he's dribbling and, and they're kissing this person's asses.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And you don't, you don't get that. You know, you Doc Rivers son. And let me ask you this. You think he would have made it in the league if he wasn't Doc Rivers' son? He was McDonald's. Yeah, but he always was Doc Rivers' son when he was McDonald's, too.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Mm. Would he be McDonald's if he wasn't Doc Rivers' son? No, he would have been. He was more. He was crazy in high school. Listen, I lived in Orlando around that time. I know. He was crazy. He's 6'4 as a high school. Listen, I lived in Orlando around that time. I know. He was crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He's 6'4". As a high school player, you know he's a high school guard at 6'4". Yeah. Kind of bullying. I seen him play. He was dunking. He was bad at flanking and all that. You do the massage too?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Not today. I didn't know you wanted to do the shoulder. Oh, no. I ain't just trying. I ain't my bad. I ain't know you wanted to do the shoulder. Oh, no. I ain't just trying. I ain't my bad, my bad. I'm trying to go. I'm going to push the envelope. I'm going to push the envelope, man. I'm sorry. My bad.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I forgot who I was talking to. The body rubbage was in there. The body rubbage. But, yeah, I just, I don't think that you're right, Mace. in there. He's in the body, bro, baby. But, yeah, I just, I don't think that, you're right, Mace. He was real. I was living in Orlando at the time, and he was talked about, and he was really good.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But, see, the reason I bring that up, you got to realize Doc Rivers is also the coach of the Orlando Magic at the time. Yeah. So I'm thinking about all that stuff at the same time. But I think he's a decent NBA player, seventh, eighth man off the bench, not necessarily a sixth man. Yeah, I thought he would have had a better career if he would have went to a different team.
Starting point is 00:38:52 He went to the wrong team. If he would have went to San Antonio, he would have had a better career. He's been to several teams. He was on Denver. You're right. Okay, well, I'll leave the Smush Parker and Austin Rivers
Starting point is 00:39:07 debate up to the viewers, but we're going to go to break. What do you think, Seth? It sounds like you got an opinion. I really don't have a good opinion. Is that like light-skinned niggas?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Whoa, never said that. We're going to go to break. We're going to return. We will talk about Rucker Park. We will talk about record park. Maybe I'm a problem. She's out of here and I don't know. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about wanting to be free. Welcome back. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. But before we get into the picks, y'all know underdog is always hooking it up for the It Is what it is listeners. And they're always doing special picks for new signups. But this week they got a special pick for everyone that ever signed up with Code Cam, Mace or Stat.
Starting point is 00:40:13 You're getting LeBron at half a point for his game on Christmas. And if you're just signing up now, you'll get another special pick on top of that. So now let's get into our picks for the night. Tonight, the Nuggets will play the Nets. Underdog Fantasy has Jokic at 26 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Higher. They play who? The Nets. Higher. Higher. Jamal Murray is at 30 and a half points, rebounds, and assists.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. It's the Nets. Nigga, he a good course. And Nick Claxton is at eight and a half rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Nace. Nick who? Nicholas Claxton. Who's that? On the Nets. Who's that? Claxton. He good?
Starting point is 00:40:58 He all right? He good for the Nets? He good? I ain't going to give him eight. I'm going to go low. Low. Okay. Shout out to Claxton. Shout out Claxton. Claxton's'm going to go low. Low. Okay. Shout out to Claxton.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Shout out Claxton. Claxton's hot. Yeah, he is. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst,
Starting point is 00:41:13 Maurice Claret. Okay. So before we get into a couple of the games, Maurice, I know you had some recent realizations about Rucker Park.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So would you like to share those? Oh, yeah. So when you like to share those? Oh, yeah. So when I was looking it up, I was about to make a shirt for something in regards to Rucker Park. I was about to do Ali Mo. And then when I went down the history of it, I never knew it was called
Starting point is 00:41:39 the Entertainer's Basketball League. And I never knew it was a heart like this. And I was like, man, I didn't know none of this stuff existed. So I had a bunch of, well, not a bunch of questions questions but I just wanted to hear stories from um you know Mason Cam about just Rucker Park you know maybe it's just like some stuff that went on around the game that a lot of people didn't know you know most of the stuff you hear is like just from our rapper sponsored teams but I'm pretty sure it was more the essence of Harlem the essence
Starting point is 00:42:02 of the city or what was going on around it. So those are just my inquiring thoughts, just basically being a fan and just not even realizing it was in Harlem. Well, Rucker Park is legendary, and I'm a legend in Rucker Park, actually. I was 16 years
Starting point is 00:42:20 old and won the championship and MVP, all type of shit at 16 years old. This is shit I was doing in 1992. You know what I'm saying? I beat Future. I beat Speedy. Half man, half a man. Mo Black was on the team.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It was crazy. So I'm just going to give my accolades before anything else. I went crazy that year. The two niggas, the two best guards, supposedly, was a guy named Future. He was really, you know, he used to dance and do all types of shit.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Speedy, he was in a movie Above the Room. And I gave them the business that year. In 1992, it was my year and I killed niggas.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But seriously, and not seriously, that's no cap. But growing up, it was a big deal. Rucker Park, you know, what happened is this.
Starting point is 00:43:04 A man named Mr. Mosley used to run Rucker Park. And it was, it was a big deal, Rucker Park. You know, what happened is this. A man named Mr. Mosley used to run Rucker Park. And it was super dope. It was lit. And he passed away, and a guy named Greg started to run it. And what Greg did was, it's kind of, I don't know how much history and how old people ought to know about wrestling. But WWF was ran by Vince McMahon's father. And when Vince McMahon's father died, Vince McMahon took it over,
Starting point is 00:43:34 and Vince McMahon turned it into the WWF. It turned out to be eventually WWE for people who was like, what is Cam talking about, WWF? It was WWF before it was WWE. But he got Hulk Hogan. He got Randy Savage. He started getting Ultimate Warrior. He took it to the next level.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And that's what Greg did for Rucker Park. He started getting sponsors from Def Jam, from different record companies. Yeah, Bad Boy. Bad Boy started turning it into Rapper's League and so on and so forth. But you forget about the people like Terminator
Starting point is 00:44:07 and the Dancing Doogee and a whole bunch of different people. Because this is one time I seen Fat Joe doing an interview. And Fat Joe was like, was Cam really good in ball like that? Because people be telling me Cam seen what was playing ball,
Starting point is 00:44:22 but I see him in celebrity game and he look kind of tight and all that. This is what I'm talking about Fat Joe's my nigga that's my man but you the new Rucker yeah he's the new Rucker you the
Starting point is 00:44:31 you the Vince McMahon Rucker I'm from Ivan Pusky Junkyard Dog Iron Sheik yeah Iron Sheik
Starting point is 00:44:39 Bob Backlund I'm from that that era so when they turned when Greg took Rucker over he got y'all rappers you know I'm not saying y' when they turned when Greg took Ruck over he got y'all rappers
Starting point is 00:44:46 you know I'm not saying y'all cause we're rappers but but at the end of the day it was a whole different dynamic before Greg got there and that was the essence of it
Starting point is 00:44:55 there's so many people you know and like like my my little bro A Butter he got a lot of footage from
Starting point is 00:45:03 Rucker Park you know if you want to check it out his page is Butter Butter World I believe on Instagram A Butter, he got a lot of footage from Rucker Park. You know, if you want to check it out, his page is Butter Butter World, I believe, on Instagram. He puts up a lot of stuff from Rucker
Starting point is 00:45:11 where he played probably from like 2001 to 2008 and 9. And when he hashtags, there's no offense because this is my little bro and he killed up there. Yeah. But he puts the golden era
Starting point is 00:45:21 and I'll be like, that's your golden era. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the real golden era, the real golden era and I'll be like that's your golden era you know what I'm saying yeah the real golden era the real golden era um Rucker
Starting point is 00:45:29 is when it was like Rambo and Jim Ice and all of them type of niggas and that was when it was a drug dealers league it wasn't even rappers
Starting point is 00:45:40 then it was right when I was living up there it was a drug yeah you was up I forgot you was on A-Faff you've been all over all of the things, when I was living up there, it was a drug dealer. Oh yeah, you was up, I forgot you was on AFAP and you've been all over when I was up over there
Starting point is 00:45:50 and all that. When I was over there, it was a drug dealer's league. It wasn't for basketball. Right, and listen, a lot of people Straight niggas. Right, and I'm not saying shout out to Mousy, Mousy out of Team North, and I'm not saying that this, and Mason's 100% right, and I'm not calling this guy a drug dealer, I'm not saying that this guy and Mason's 100% right and I'm not calling this guy a drug dealer
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm just saying I remember Juan y'all a lot of people know him as OG Juan from Peter Shue
Starting point is 00:46:12 and all that that's the that's the rocker I know remember we had a fight with Peter Shue I don't even know if you remember that
Starting point is 00:46:19 yeah Peter Shue niggas like oh shit Peter Shue was the first nigga with the with the fanny pack shit before niggas that's the rocker I know that's a fact Peter Shue was the first nigga with the fanny pack shit before niggas had it.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, that's the real guy I know. That's a fact. When you couldn't come in the park. Yeah. When you was playing killer, I was on the fence. I coached you to the MVP. Listen, man, I remember, man. He was my bro.
Starting point is 00:46:40 You'll kill a girl now. Yo, that championship was for all of us. You're going crazy. Yeah, championship was for all of us. You going crazy. Yeah, that was for all of us because it was nobody. We couldn't believe it. They said, yo, this nigga kill out. They're going crazy. We almost cried.
Starting point is 00:46:55 We might have cried because no young nigga played in Rutgers. After that, a bunch of young niggas started playing. But I was the first teenager to play and bust ass in the championship. We couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it because it was like a grown man's league and Mr. Mosley gave me opportunity but Mason's right we could I couldn't even believe the shit I was like yo this is kind of crazy let me ask you a question so is it like a tournament so I really don't know I've only seen it through social like not social media but like old and one mixtapes is it a tournament for like a week is it a weekend or like what is actually when people talk about record park or the tournament like what i guess what is it um in the beginning it was in the beginning it was just you you had the you it was like show off
Starting point is 00:47:41 it was like the proof that you could bring a player from the furthest place you could possibly get a player from. Like, niggas were bringing people from. I remember when they brought, who was the first person? Was it Vince? It was somebody crazy. Yeah, listen. And that's one thing I will give Fat Joe credit for. And Jay-Z as well.
Starting point is 00:48:02 They started bringing Kobe Bryant. Yeah. Allen Iverson, fucking LeBron James. Well, Steph was from New York already, but, you know, when niggas started flying in, the niggas from out, you know, that's when niggas was like,
Starting point is 00:48:18 oh, Rucker Park done got crazy. You know, it started getting police barricades and so on and so forth. It was just wild, reckless in the beginning. It wasn't no barricades and so on and so forth. It was just wild, reckless in the beginning. It wasn't no barricades. You climb on a tree. It's a bridge over there. You would sit on a bridge.
Starting point is 00:48:31 It's even projects directly across the street where niggas would go on the roof of the projects. Yeah, or sit on top where the school was, the elementary school, the roof. Right, exactly. So to answer the question, question though it is a tournament you know you play
Starting point is 00:48:46 eight nine games and the team the four five six teams who make the playoffs and then you know it was like all summer
Starting point is 00:48:54 it was the thing they're doing in summer and and at first it was just pretty much like Bronx versus Harlem and Queens
Starting point is 00:49:02 before niggas start flying niggas in right first it was it was like bragging rights so who the best in the city so much like Bronx versus Harlem and Queens before niggas start flying niggas in. First, it was like bragging rights of who the best in the city. So whoever was like the top guard in the city, you had to play in Rucka. If you didn't play there, it didn't matter. Right. You know, not to jump off topic.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Hold on, man. Shane Gillis. Shout out to Shane. Shane Gillis, you got to chill, bro. Shane Gillis, I texted him yesterday. He had called me while we was filming. So I hit him back and said, yo, you up still? He just hit me back and said, pause, man.
Starting point is 00:49:36 What do you mean am I up? Yo, Shane, chill, bro. My bad. Are you awake? Nah, shout out to Shane, man. I'm just looking. He's like, yo, pause on you up, yo. Shout out to Joe Rogan and Shane Gillis, man.
Starting point is 00:49:50 It was crazy. But yeah, bro. It was the thing to do. You know, after a while, it kind of died down. People go to Dykeman, and then you had Kingdome pause. It was a lot of tournaments outside of that. But, you know, it was one of the things you had to be there. Yeah. And you definitely wanted to have your best game because niggas on the mic would kill
Starting point is 00:50:11 you. Oh, yeah. The mic, that's what made it dope as well. Announcing out loud the whole game was spectacular. And then if you get a nickname, your nickname was crazy. I was the All-American. I was like, it was crazy. You get a nickname. That's what I was going to say. I was talking about OG
Starting point is 00:50:27 Juan. When Juan was doing it before Jay-Z or anybody else, when he was doing it by himself, I remember niggas used to change sneakers at halftime. I'm like, yo, how much money is niggas really getting up there? They could wear the white Jordans the first half, and then the second
Starting point is 00:50:43 half wear the black Jordans. So you want to play for people like that. You know what I'm saying? I remember that game, big straight game. He's slinging his sheet. Yeah, yeah, I remember. It was more like Peter Shue, Juan, Mousy. Those people at that particular time, they had it.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And Maurice, you got your questions answered. Yeah, no, I just, look, I'm a fan. So I just be trying to relive a time. And I seen, you don't know about this step, but the AM1 mixtapes growing up was like everything. I think that was the first time I was introduced to just Harlem, well, the Rucker Park in general. And then when I went to do the research on it,
Starting point is 00:51:24 I didn't realize it was a Harlem. Oh what, Rucker Park in general. And then when I went to do the research on it, I didn't realize it was a Harlem. Oh yeah, definitely. Okay. So we got two more games to talk about real quick. The Thunder beat the Clippers 134 to 115, killing the Clippers nine game win streak. What are your thoughts on the Thunder being second in the West?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Well, I mean, the Thunder, they beat them but but you know Kawhi wasn't playing so I can't really
Starting point is 00:51:49 count this towards Ty Lue cause Ty Lue said with his whole team after 10 games they was gonna be rolling and they have been rolling so this game
Starting point is 00:51:57 didn't have Kawhi there so I'm giving them a pass on this game and but the boys Sha how you say it Shay Sha Shay Shay Shay is really giving them a pass on this game. But the boy, Sha. How you say it, Shea?
Starting point is 00:52:05 Sha? Shea. Shea is really starting to make a name for himself. I mean, like, even though last year he was first team, I think this year he's really taking it serious. Like, not that he didn't last year, but really starting to create that space between him and the other guys.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Like, yo, I'm really that one. And that's what I'm starting to get from watching his game. Even when it was a play where him and Westbrook was together, and it just looked like you could tell as an athlete when you know, this nigga can't guard me. You could just see it in his mannerisms, in his mindset, like he don't belong out here on me.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I looked up to this nigga growing up and I hate that it had to be this way. Yeah, yeah. Listen, yesterday when we had Mark Jackson on the show, I was, you know, I was so excited to see John play. I said, uh, we got Luca, we got Steph, and then we're we gonna put John right there Mark
Starting point is 00:53:07 quickly corrected me and said you're jumping the gun and you forgetting about that guy out there in Oklahoma City and we talked about this earlier this year because because he was first seen all NBA last year he's in a small market We didn't really see what he had going on. And the Oklahoma City Thunder may not have been this attractive since Westbrook and Kevin Durant was there. You know, even when Chris Paul was there, it wasn't the same. And even watching Shea's game, he's a little more athletic than Chris Paul. It isn't like he's one of these guards that go dunk on you and high flying, but I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We talked about this before, prior to the game, when we were saying we're going to see when he plays stuff tonight. Then he was kind of killing stuff. And then not only did he, you know, I ain't going to say kill stuff, but he got his numbers out he outplayed stuff i'll say that you put the tape out i was gonna say that he put it on that tape yeah yeah he put it on his instagram and not not not just a clip swipe nigga this you on the tape nigga you getting killed, he put it on his Instagram and put swipe left.
Starting point is 00:54:27 One clip, two clip, three clip, four clip. So... And he had 31 and eight. Yeah, 31 and eight. He had the game high. James Harden, not only 23, he had 23 on Westbrook
Starting point is 00:54:37 off the bench, 15 points. You said Kawhi didn't play but made a great point. Yeah. Paul George, 22 points. He's out for blood. Yeah. He's out for blood yeah he's out for blood and he wants his name to be known look a lot of times and i'm not going to compare it to
Starting point is 00:54:51 the joker or luke or anything else because those guys are actually coming from overseas but these players that are not from this country also have a point to prove yeah he's from canada so you got a bunch of canada players said, we're going to go down there and show these niggas that we're just as good as they are as well. Like Jamal Murray. You know, certain niggas up there, up north, that's nice, my nigga. Yeah, and don't forget, check
Starting point is 00:55:15 on that OKC team, too. He's going crazy. And I think I like this OKC team. Yeah. And lastly, the Grizzlies are already standing on business. They beat the Pacers
Starting point is 00:55:30 116 to 103. But thoughts on the Pacers losing another game? Yeah, it's like it's like you want you wanted the killer said the target on your back.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Pause it now. Niggas is playing like every time they go to Indiana. These are pausing now. Niggas is playing like every time they go to Indiana, these are the niggas that almost was the champs. So niggas is taking them serious. Look,
Starting point is 00:55:57 the fans of Indiana, the fans in Detroit when the Lions be winning, all these fans when we don't give y'all y'all credit and we start giving y'all y'all credit and then y'all just sit there and embarrass us. Stop texting us. Stop DMing me.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Stop hitting the page up. Yeah, question me. Yeah, stop questioning stat, murder, DMing us. Oh, we've been wondering why y'all not talking about us. This is exactly why. Because they put too much pressure on y'all.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, we trying to save y'all from y'allself. All right? A big disappointment. All right? Now listen, y'all. Yeah, we trying to save y'all from y'allself. All right? A big disappointment. All right? Now, listen. Y'all was going around gloating. And I'm not going to say, listen, I would have gave y'all niggas a pass.
Starting point is 00:56:34 But Halliburton fucked it up when he did this shit. He fucked it all up. Ever since that time. Ever since that Dame time shit, he fucked it up. The reason I say that is because if he would have went out humbly and said, boy, we're just trying to get better every day. You know, we're working on ourselves. Had a great game against an even greater guard.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Right. And it was humbling to even be on the same floor with him. No, you want to do all this? You want to listen to the big male songs and being humble and all that. Yeah, exactly. See what it got you. This is where it gets you. You want to bring your five on T you. This is where it gets you. You want to bring your father on TNT
Starting point is 00:57:07 and this is where it gets you. And you know who has a problem with it. You know who's seen all this worse than... We all seen it, but it ain't the fact that me, Stat, Murder, Maurice, anybody else we work with seen it. The fact is that John Morant been watching
Starting point is 00:57:24 and they couldn't do nothing about it. And now he can do with seen it. The fact is that John Morant been watching, they couldn't do nothing about it. And now he can do something about it. And he's going to do something about it. This is every guard's worst nightmare coming to y'all niggas 100 miles per hour every night. Y'all niggas got another 70, 60 something games with problems on your hands. I'm telling you this right now.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And there's going to be people up for the challenge you guys Luka don't give a fuck uh Steph ain't gonna care uh cause there's a lot of soft ass guards
Starting point is 00:57:55 to I think yeah Josh playing like yo tell the niggas up that it is what it is I'm gonna take these niggas to the playoffs I'm taking these niggas
Starting point is 00:58:04 to the playoffs yeah that's a fact, man. That's how you look at it. Yeah, man. And then, you know, I seen, I was saying, I won't say the show, but I seen a couple of shows because after Josh's first game, he's like, yeah, I kept all the receipts. And a couple people who heard him say that, like,
Starting point is 00:58:22 Josh, you're the reason people have receipts. You was doing this and doing that and doing this. Look, bro, let that man say what the fuck he want to say at this point. We got action, nigga. We got action, nigga, and I'm excited. Jai, only thing I'm not supporting is the guns, because we
Starting point is 00:58:37 ain't going to be able to see you. Say what you want, because you can afford to find. Just don't slap niggas, pull out guns, anything else. Say whatever the fuck you want because I'm digging it. Yeah. Or text us.
Starting point is 00:58:49 We'll say it for you. That's even better. Yeah, that's the fact. Stay out of trouble. That's the fact, man. Text me. I'll tell her. I'll say it for you.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah, but as far as the Pacers are concerned, target on your back, baby. Y'all niggas, it's the reigning Eastern Conference champions for the end season tournament. Whatever the fuck that mean.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Y'all niggas is right now in the eighth seat. You're in the eighth seat. So when this, when this shit started, y'all, I think I was in fourth or fifth. It's been bad since the end season tournament. Good luck the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:59:23 There you have it. And Maurice, thank you for being here. Yo, Mo, it's been a great season, man. We appreciate you, man. And we're going to see you season three. We act like season three ain't next week, but we'll see you season
Starting point is 00:59:36 three, man. But go ahead, Mo, what you going to say? Well, look, y'all got to meet me. We're the official title sponsor for the Racism Bowl. Whoa! The Racism Bowl. Whoa! The Racism Bowl. The official sponsor. That nigga Moe be on point every week, man.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Moe, the Racism Bowl is crazy. Right. I promise y'all, crowd when you said that the other day. It was hilarious. No, Mace called out. That was Mace. Mace is a funny nigga, man. The racism.
Starting point is 01:00:10 The racism bowl is fire. Right. Mo, we appreciate you, bro. Yeah, I'm going to... Well, it's pink horsepower time. I'm going to get with y'all fellas later on. Oh, don't trust me. It's almost time for me too, baby.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Matter of fact, Tito passed me my bag. I don't leave home without it, nigga. The proud sponsor. Yeah, baby. Matter of fact, Tito passed me my bag. I don't leave home without it, nigga. The proud sponsor. Yeah, man. Tito, you on the camera. I got you. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I ain't trying to set you up, nigga. Yeah, nigga. I'm crawling with pink horse power. I'm just trying to show I know a nigga ain't taking my pink horse power out of me. I don't care get you up, nigga. Yeah, nigga. I'm crawling with pink horse power. I'm just trying to show. I know a nigga ain't taking my pink horse power out of here. I was just trying to get a quick commercial. And they're going to rob me.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah. I don't even got nothing in here, man. Yeah. Sorry, Moe. I got something next time. Yeah, man. Messing my phone. Now I'm mad for real.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Look at my pink horse bro well before we end we have a surprise y'all y'all can play games here if y'all want I got my knife in my back
Starting point is 01:01:14 no it's a pleasant surprise shout out Nick Nick what's that? Don't open it yet. Thank you, Nick. I appreciate it. Kiss his cat, Ellie. Thank you, Nick.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Thank you, bro. We appreciate you, man. Good looking, brozy. He's still looking for it. Nick Saban. Yo, so I would like for you guys to open these up on the show if that's possible. Is there a difference in each bag? Yeah. What is it?
Starting point is 01:01:57 So we'll go with staff first. We'll go with staff first. Mase, I definitely want you to go last. Got a nice bottle of wine I do love me some wine too so I know Stat is a Steeler fan so we got us some Steeler gear
Starting point is 01:02:17 and then we definitely need Cam to go next pause right here. Real quick. My pink horsepower is a lot going on in my bag. This is what I'm going to do. Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Make sure you go to pink-horsepower.net to have a beautiful Christmas and a happy new year.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Woo, that was close. I had to make sure I had my shirt in my bag. Thank you guys. Is this just from you, Nick, personally? Yeah, that's for me, man, for working with you guys.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You guys have been dope, so I just wanted to show love. Thank you very much, bro. All right, I'll just make this up. He has to check it. Oh, dude. You're looking, Nick.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yo, these ain't the ones you had on the other day. All right. Nah, Nick had these on the other day, and I was like, yo, these is tough. These is fire. Oh, yeah, these new. All right. I'll just make a shot. Nick ain't give me refurbished drink.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Yo, I told him because, you know, pink is my color and all that. Thank you so much, Nick. I appreciate it. Fire. Nah, thank you again. And is this champagne? Yeah, that's Thank you so much, Nick. I appreciate it. Now, thank you again. And is this champagne? Yeah, that's for the New Year's celebration. Thank you very much, Nick. I appreciate it, man. Oh yeah. Lil' Fu. Lil' Fu, baby. You
Starting point is 01:03:35 gonna put this with some champagne? So, Mase- Yeah, I'll mix this with champagne. Thank you so much, man. Got you, bro. Mase, you're a very difficult person to buy stuff for because unlike Stat, we actually know what team she root for. Cam asked me to make a video of all the teams that you've rooted for.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm like, Cam, I'm going to have to charge you extra for that one, bro. I don't know. So, and that little bag is a gift. So you got some. For the new year. Cleco. Yeah, man. So you got some. What a new year. Cleco. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Little boo. Thank you, man. And the little bag. What is this? Since I know you all about Titletown. Oh. What is this, man? So I got creative.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I got you a gift card. So the next day, whoever wins the national title, you'll be able to go and got you a gift card so the next day whoever wins the national title will be able to go and get you a hat because I couldn't pick just one team now you got options because of Titletown
Starting point is 01:04:33 yeah that was good what's up man thank you so much of course it's been dope it's been dope working with you guys
Starting point is 01:04:43 and being a part of this Nick that was clever. Nick is the one every night behind the scenes recording, editing the videos. We want to tell, I was going to, actually before we finished the season, I was going to tell you, thank you so much for being part of the team,
Starting point is 01:04:57 setting up extra hours to help us get this done. Thanks to Jeremiah, who made a rare appearance tonight for making all this happen as well. The CEO, Kevin, Blue Wire, everybody behind the scenes. And this move out here to the West Coast, for me, Mason Stat, it was a really big decision being that we're all originally from the East Coast and you guys really made us feel at home and feel comfortable. And it's been a pleasure to work with you and we look forward to working with you much more in the future Coast and you guys really made us feel at home and feel comfortable and it's been a pleasure to work with you and we look forward
Starting point is 01:05:27 to working with you much more in the future. Thank you guys so much, man. Let's go. Let's go. It means a lot. Thank you guys. Thank you guys in the back.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I hope everyone has a happy holiday. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:05:39 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. my nigga Bub, my nigga Tito. Oh, King.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah, my nigga King. I'm not going to say his first name. Yo, Church is out there in the front. I'm trying to think. Is there anybody else we forgot? Jake, Jacob. Oh, yeah, Jacob York. Big shout out to Jacob York.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You know, he really helped Mark Jackson. He helped put the Mark Jackson thing together. To be honest with you, it might have fell apart without Jacob York. And shout out to Juice, Blueberry. Yeah, my man. Look at Church. Shout out to Church.
Starting point is 01:06:19 My man, Church. Shout out to OJ. And shout out to Larry Smith for finding OJ and shout out to Larry Smith for finding OJ for us so we appreciate everybody's help man and if I am forgetting anybody
Starting point is 01:06:31 I'm pretty sure y'all will remind me so we'll talk to we'll shout you out next week when season 3 begins thank you oh we bugging
Starting point is 01:06:38 shout out to Underdog Fantasy my man shout out to Nick we bugging the fuck out big shout out to my man Nick over there
Starting point is 01:06:47 underdog fantasy we appreciate everything you're doing for us and we look forward to doing much more business in the future man
Starting point is 01:06:54 and we got much more in store man if I forget I'm sorry but yeah that's I can't remember anybody else thank you all
Starting point is 01:07:01 for watching and that's all the time we have for today stay tuned for season three and as y'all know we the new journalists. Yeah baby. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Journalist niggas. As always it is what it is. We out.

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