IT IS WHAT IT IS - SEASON 3 WE ARE BACK & LAMAR JACKSON SAID THAT MVP IS MINE | S.3 EP.1

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one to kick off SEASON 3 of IIWII!! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, re...view, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Shorty said being with you is like an odyssey Well is it? I don't know, probably I did a lot of things to stay away from poverty Road mob deep, causing havoc, made me a prodigy R.I.P. bandana P and my father Gene Grandpa Jerry grandma dot that was my heart and queen From Andre Hudson shit I used to borrow jeans Then Wu-Tang made that song all they called it cream Thanks Method Man that hook made my beretta dance And no I never left no prints I had them leather hands
Starting point is 00:00:40 38 at the Never Jam just smoke like the Neverlands Been fly for years seem like I'll never land I was enrolled out on count of millions in the Sheridan All brown, Shirley for sure, sure made me prevalent Way before Moderna, I gave Fiends their medicine I'm from 140, if I did this, I'd a tenement I rode the 101, the 2, the M1 bus 3 train, 4 train, Brooklyn, they used to burn, rush my block
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's old dumb dust, I had a poppy to front us I let this money become me, let me ride to Columbus Got with the gunners, the runners turned out humongous The numbers, we had to win it when Jay was doing the summers Braun, still in high school, dunking and hitting jumpers Kept marrying rich with them, they arose like why you dump us? Saturday's deposit, chase a sun truss Worked at Donald and no one will ever trump us, us Bout to put that in my bio
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm a Harlem nigga, got accepted by Ohio How? Why? Cause I was really out there with em Shot the buck in my nerve just before the Alka River Man, the stamp on the dope was dope as his Stalin River Man, they smoke good, real good I had pounds to give em I lived in the residence on 161 After Club 69 Niggas had to get they gun If you fucked in the parking lot, there was a hit and run
Starting point is 00:01:55 Till the boys came, this shit was fun, yeah it was Anyway, I told baby girl, grab your gear She like, goddamn, care I ain't even wrap my hair, plus I got work tomorrow My schedule I have to clear, I said you offerin' information I ain't ask to hear, curve up, man I can't even falter And while I lean on all cars, I never see a altar You know who I am, Kim, aka Culture Saturday night fever, but the revolvers on Travolta
Starting point is 00:02:22 I grew up with the snake rats and vultures How you hate on me and murder, nigga, just applaud us Everywhere I went, I made Harlem look gorgeous Pull up on these diamonds, Mortal Kombat, flawless And my suit stay like eight times your mortgage Emmys on the way, 40 seconds on the Forbes list I'm talkin' tunnel vision, yeah, tunnel vision I sold bundles and I went down to the tunnel flippin' On my block you had the rumble cuttin' fumble missions Flat screens, nah, I had antennas on the television Shit, I'm right where I need to be Welcome back to season three, it's killer,
Starting point is 00:03:00 bitch Relax, man. Gotta relax. love me first love yourself and god we trust trust me i don't trust myself your jewelry i get it welcome back to it is what it is and the first episode of season three live in studio this episode is sponsored by underdog fantasy the app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players underdog is available in more than 30 states including california florida texas and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to $100
Starting point is 00:03:51 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, man. What's happening, Stat? Good to see you. Good to see you too.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And good to see you, too, Mace. My nigga, I like fitted murder. I like fitted murder. I like, that's my man right there. I like fitted murder. I ain't saying I don't like suit murder, but fitted murder, that's my, that's my man right there. Fitted murder. I like fitted murder.
Starting point is 00:04:23 We might got to do, we might got to figure out for the rest of the year, like, we might got to lay off. I'm not saying we can't win. I like myself. You know, I look kind of dapper than myself today,
Starting point is 00:04:34 I must say. Tie and all that, but. Yeah, you got a lot of, you got a lot of Gator Blue on, killer. Listen,
Starting point is 00:04:41 yo, murder, murder, man. What's up with that Gator Blue? Murder, I used to sell water, nigga. I think yo, murder. Murder, man. What's up with that gator blue? Murder, I used to sell water, nigga.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I think it's going off that water. Water, nigga. They got nothing to do with the gators, blue. Shout out to the gators and all. I like fitting murder. I'm not saying I don't like suit murder, but fitting murder giving me a flashback of what we used to be.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So for everybody that doesn't know, Mace, the next week or two, or maybe three, I'm not sure right now, maybe two and a half weeks, he's on tour in Australia doing his thing. So any of our fans Australia
Starting point is 00:05:18 or nearby New Zealand, anything like that, you want to go check Mace out. He's performing on Juicy Fest tours. Is that what it's called? Oh, that was crazy. I want to know what you're a part of. That's what I asked. That's what you're a part of.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That's what I was checking. Are you a part of something called Juicy Fest? That's the name of the tour you're on? He's talking about you. Yo, episode one and you already going crazy. No, bro. I'm only asking the name of the tour that you are on. Matter of fact, I won't say nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Tell people where they can see you at if they're in the New Zealand, Australia area where they can come see you at. I see you pause when I asked you too. I was just trying to tell people where they can come see you at. You're going to be in that continent for two to three weeks if anybody wants to come see you perform.
Starting point is 00:06:24 What was the name of the festival that you're a part of yeah pause as Killers say it was called Juicy Fest and Cam's right about it pause
Starting point is 00:06:39 pause on pause I'm not going to pause you. I just want people to know, because we got fans all over the world. If they want to come see you, just let them know a little bit about the tour, where they could come see you at. Yeah, the tour is called Juicy Festival. And it's just sound crazy. We're in Wellington tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We already did what was that called? Christ Church. That city was crazy. And we got about you know, eight or ten, eight to nine more to go. That's what's up. Pause. Alright, now we're back. I just wanted to
Starting point is 00:07:19 let niggas know because a lot of times you don't get over there often. A lot of us from America don't. So might as well take a chance and take the opportunity. If you're a Mace fan or anybody else that's on the tour, make sure you Google the tour and try and check the fellas out. Facts. And that's super, super dope.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah. Well, it's glad to, I'm glad to be back. And I'm happy that we're celebrating a new year, but we're entering the final week of the NFL regular season. So there is a lot on the line. The Ravens clinched the number one seed in the AFC after a 56 to 19 win over the Dolphins. How did you feel about Lamar Jackson's performance? And then do you see him as a strong MVP candidate now?
Starting point is 00:08:04 I mean, I think Lamar is definitely a candidate is pause. It's hard for me to say it, but when you get 321 yards, then you get 18 for 21. He played a spectacular game. Got six rushes, 35 yards, you know, and only sackacked once. So, I mean, the front line is playing really great. And to beat the Dolphins, I don't know if I really could blame this on the Dolphins because they played kind of cool, but this is crazy. I think he definitely could get MVP. I think after beating the 49ers and now beating the Dolphins,
Starting point is 00:08:45 he's definitely set up to get MVP. Mason, what the fuck are you talking about? The Dolphins play cool. They got beat 56-19. What you mean they play cool? You've been over there sipping that Australian water too long, nigga. You've only
Starting point is 00:09:01 been there four or five days, nigga. They play cool. Now you on your G'day May shit. G'day, man. Yo, they did not play cool, nigga. Them niggas lost 56 to 19. To 19, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 What you mean they played cool, man? You having too much of a good time. You told me it's summertime over there, niggas wearing shorts. You need to get back to the... For everything that Tyreek Hill is going through, this is cool. They really wasn't supposed to have any points. Tyreek Hill didn't even get 100 yards. I mean, you know, he has 75, 76 yards,
Starting point is 00:09:39 which is good for an all-right receiver, not for top five receiver in the NFL. Look, man, I'm going to let Mace catch up because he's 21 hours ahead of us, actually. No, I'm saying when you got three people pregnant, allegedly, this is as close as the game was going to get. So you're saying that they're doomed moving forward because Tyreek Hill's off the field activities? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying 56-19 is good. I'm saying because of what he got going on, he would be lucky if they got 14 points. This is a debacle, for real. First of all, look, I don't like the sun shining on you like that. You got the glow to like Bruce Leroy right now. You got too much of a good time.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You need to buckle down and get back to what we've been doing, man. It's too much touring. I'm going to chime in and let Murda catch up on the next topic. The Miami Heat, pardon me, Miami Heat, the Miami Dolphins did not look good whatsoever. They played trash. Now you're in one game. It's one game left in
Starting point is 00:10:45 the season to where I think I'm not sure, but it's a bunch of different scenarios for the Buffalo Bills to clinch a playoff berth, but they're actually only one game behind you in the division. If they end up tying, I don't know who the tiebreaker goes to. I believe it goes to
Starting point is 00:11:01 Miami. But the original question that Statt asked is, Lamar the MVP? Yes, he's the MVP. Hands down. Brock Purdy, last week, this week, Tua, he showed up and showed out both games. This game, he actually had over 300 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:11:27 The game coming up against the Steelers, I believe, he's not even playing. I've seen that earlier. Pardon me, not today, yesterday, I've seen that. He's not even playing. That's how confident that the Ravens are in him not saying getting MVP. Of course, you don't want them to get hurt in a game
Starting point is 00:11:44 that's meaningless, and they have playoff business to take care of, but I think it's a foregone conclusion. These are the two games that he needed to win, and win convincingly. He didn't just win, he bust ass. They put the 49ers on their ass, and then they put,
Starting point is 00:12:02 pause for Mace Go Crazy and then they put uh um the Dolphins on the ass pause against two really great quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:12:13 and Brock Purdy was the leading contender to get MVP before Lamar Jackson walked up in uh
Starting point is 00:12:20 the 49ers stadium and took that shit from that nigga with all black on yeah so uh yeah I know a nigga run up to you with braids on the 49ers stadium and took that shit from that nigga. With all black on. Yeah, so... Yeah, you know a nigga run up to you with braids on and all black. Pause. He gotta get what he gotta get.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, I ain't mad at him. I think, look, at the end of the day, that nigga ain't even playing coming up Sunday. The MVP is his. I tell you one thing, though. I would not be surprised if they find a way to give it to Christian McCaffrey on the real racism without the reverse. Yeah, that would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Now, if they find a way to give it to somebody, if they find a way to give it to somebody outside of Lamar Jackson, would you call that racism? What would you say to that murder? Yeah, that's definitely going to be that's definitely going to be racism. Okay, okay. Now, what did you think about OBJ when he said that going from the top to the bottom was crazy? Yeah, that's wild. I mean, it's OBJ. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:13:22 He said it's the best team ever he went from the top you go from the bottom to the top it was something crazy I just I pretty much had to turn the TV off
Starting point is 00:13:33 on that yeah you know it's OBJ you know people say you're a little zesty sometimes you know
Starting point is 00:13:40 I ain't gonna throw that on them what what no comment no comment I definitely time. I ain't going to throw that on him. What? No comment. I definitely don't think OBJ is dusty at all. And he just said it's the best team he's been on from the top to the bottom. I know you're going to ask
Starting point is 00:13:58 me too. I feel like I know what you're going to ask me. Is it the thing that he likes to do? What does he like to do? I don't know what he're going to ask me. I'm going to ask you. Is it the thing that he likes to do? What does he like to do? I don't know what he likes to do. Now you're making this sound even crazier. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Tell me what he likes to do. Never mind. You're just saying he has like a little fetish, but like, I don't know if that's true or not. What's the fetish? I want to verify it first before I say it. What I was going to say is that I don't... What is a...
Starting point is 00:14:20 Nothing about a fetish sound masculine. What's a fetish? Yo, I thought about it. I said, yo, last year, niggas got their nails done. Niggas wear purses. Who's going to be the first nigga to get eyelashes? Who the hell is going to be the first nigga to get eyelashes? I'll keep it on it, Murdoch. That's a great question. No, I'm going to be the first one to get eyelashes. I'm going to keep it on it, Murdo.
Starting point is 00:14:45 That's a great question. I'm going to keep it on it. That is a great question. If niggas get eyelashes, are you cool with that set? No. Because you're cool with everything else. Nails is fine.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I feel like nail polish is fine. Eyelashes is like, I mean, if that's what you want to do, cool. Everything is what you want to do, cool. If that's what you want to do everything is what you want to do now you back now now you back yeah that's what i'm talking about i told a nigga you're not that you're not that um liberal you ain't got your lashes done i was telling you all stage the nigga on stage. Yo, I'm going to keep it on it.
Starting point is 00:15:30 A nigga come in batting their eyes in the locker room is wild, yo. A nigga come in blinking at a nigga all crazy is wild, B. That is a great
Starting point is 00:15:42 fucking question and I'm going to be honest with you. This is what's going to happen. This this is what's going to happen this is exactly what's going to happen Mace you said it and now somebody's going to do it just to piss you off
Starting point is 00:15:54 nigga said oh nigga nigga yo I'm going to get my lashes done before the game that was a great great question my next question is this what does obj like to do well okay so somebody said and he didn't like talk about it that he likes he has a little like poop fetish so like i don't know we ain't gonna sit act like we ain't adults. What you mean a poop fetish? He likes to get shitted on? No, he likes to watch,
Starting point is 00:16:26 I guess, people use the bathroom. But like, I don't know. Like, that's what this girl said. I don't like to put out things. I'm gonna tell you what I do know. I ain't gonna tell you what you heard or fetish. Yeah, it is wild.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Like, the get off night, not, you know, to sit there and be like, yo, could you go take a shit before we bone and then I watch you? My dog get my dick rock hard pause. Like, what are you talking about? I need to hear the piss hit the water. What is that?
Starting point is 00:16:57 What is that? Listen, you don't know speculation. Fuck the speculation. OBJ has a picture up. And let's go to the picture while I talk about it. Getting tattoos on his ass with two men behind him tattooing his ass. You see that, Stat? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Exactly. You've seen that. It is also. That is for that. Yeah. I also did not say that. So, and give me a close-up,
Starting point is 00:17:28 please, real quick, Nick. He like this, Murda, with two niggas tattooed on his ass like this. And listen, I don't have a problem with BJ. I see OBJ. We say what's up. And my thing is,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't care what you're doing. Not after this. Look, Murda, I'm a journalist and I'm reporting. I'm not saying what he, you got a problem
Starting point is 00:17:48 with niggas do. When you say it doesn't matter, well, yeah, you say niggas is lying. It does matter.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It does matter. It does matter. Like, who named it on it? Is he putting a name on it? Nah, shout out to OBJ. Nah, your niggas always do that.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Niggas always say something and be like, nah, shout out. Niggas say that he tattooed a Roger on his ass cheek. No, I mean, these days it's different. He might put his girl. I don't know. Time out. I'm not finished. I'm not finished.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And listen, I have no problem with OBJ with the things I'm about to go through. OBJ also, OBJ is also on the football field after the game is over, giving somebody a five. And when they walk away, he's looking at their ass. We could go to that video as well. Am I right or wrong? Cam, the man did catch the man. Yo,
Starting point is 00:18:58 killer, the man did catch a touchdown. Let's give him some kind of, you know. What you mean? Who caught the touchdown? OBJ? He caught a lot of touchdowns. I mean, he did get a touchdown. I mean, he did get a touchdown in the Super Bowl years ago. Yo,
Starting point is 00:19:13 Murda, let me ask you this. All right, cool, because I got one more thing to say after this. Yeah. I'm trying to look for some... I seen you score 40 points before I've seen you shake a nigga to the floor
Starting point is 00:19:30 dribbling I've seen you sell 5 million records on one album after any of those achievements have you ever gave a nigga a 5 and when they walked off you looked at his ass and said, damn. That's all I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. That nigga said, you feel me? The video nigga said, damn. That's what the nigga did. The last video I'd like to go to, and this is, like I said,
Starting point is 00:20:03 this is all, we're just reporting what's going on. OBJ is in the jacuzzi with six niggas chilling, and out the blue, a nigga come up, pop up under the jacuzzi, talking about sexual healing with shit drip with the jacuzzi. Who's under a jacuzzi? You and Dick's soup pours. I don't be in jacuzzi with six niggas.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Listen, I'm not. I never saw that. Well, matter of fact, we're going to go to the video right now. When I get that feeling, I won't stop. I won't get it. Murder. And I'm not referring to this, but that's like, that's the same way Shorty came out the water and come into America. When she said the royal penis is clean. Yo, bro, it's seven niggas in a jacuzzi
Starting point is 00:21:09 and you just chilling and you don't know the eighth nigga is there. Now, 30 seconds into the video, a nigga just splash up out the water and say sexual healing. Now we could go back to what we were saying about OBJ you my nigga I don't give a fuck what's got going on
Starting point is 00:21:27 I ain't gonna be in that jacuzzi with y'all but you know we go to Phoenix games I might see you you my nigga it's all good I ain't got no problem with that Stat definitely don't got a problem with it it matters to Mace he says I'm lying when I say it doesn't matter to me and maybe I am I don't know
Starting point is 00:21:43 you are lying cause if it didn't matter you wouldn't have brought it up bad to be. And maybe I am. I don't know. Yeah. You are lying because if it didn't matter, you would have brought it up. No, you let's keep it on it. You brought it up. We was talking about the Ravens and you said, you brought this up. You said what was old BJ
Starting point is 00:21:59 talking about when when he said top to bottom, you turned the TV off I say he do be a little bit zesty I don't think he's zesty if none of that is zesty to stat what is she Gen Z? I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:16 what is she Gen Z? what's that? I know a Gen Z I think you Gen Z she's definitely Gen Z Gen Z is cool with Gen Z I I think you Gen Z. She's definitely Gen Z. You Gen Z is in school with Gen Z. I ain't got no problem with it. I guess if Gen Z don't got no problem with it, I think me and you Gen X murder.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah, we. Yeah, for real. It matters. It matters. The more conversations we have are so funny, but I do just want to note, yeah, Lamar Jackson in that game threw for five touchdowns, had 321 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:22:47 He had a phenomenal game. Back to the Christian McCaffrey MVP race. I do think it should go to Lamar Jackson, but people want it to be Christian McCaffrey because the running back hasn't had it in over 12 years, I think. But again, Lamar Jackson has been playing phenomenal and everybody counted them out. So I think they deserve it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But not only that, that's a great point. I like that point because you know why? Because somebody outside of a quarterback hasn't had the MVP in 12 years, you said? When it's a black man's turn again to get it they gonna find a reason not to give it to the black man and say well a quarterback hasn't had it in over 12 years and Lamar Jackson already has an MVP
Starting point is 00:23:35 let's give it to the running back this year he beat the same team that the running back that we're referring to for our casual listeners uh plays for the 49ers on the same team they just beat yeah listen murder reason and sometimes i know we all know but the reason i was just giving a little backstory to it because we have a lot of listeners that listen to us because they say as much as we do know about sports we give casual
Starting point is 00:24:03 fans an audience as well because they say, you know how many girls be like, I understand sports now, Cam. I was just giving a little back story. The running back that people are referring to that should beat Lamar Jackson is on the same team, the 49ers, that the
Starting point is 00:24:20 MVP Brock Purdy was leading before the Ravens went there and beat them. If you beat Brock Purdy was leading before the Ravens went there and beat them. So if you beat Brock Purdy, Chris McCaffrey got beat as well. Pause. So I think that both them players should be out the conversation. It was wild. All right, Murdoch.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I'll let you slide. You on Juicy Fest. You on Juicy Fest. You on Juicy Fest. Don't talk to me the whole time. The whole time The whole time That you're The whole time
Starting point is 00:24:48 You're in Australia You're on Juicy Fest Leave me alone You're on Juicy You better leave me alone All three two weeks You go You're on Juicy Fest
Starting point is 00:25:00 For two weeks bro Leave me alone, bro. There's a lot of gangster rappers on Juicy Fest, Cam. I'm not saying their name. Then why would they name it that? I've seen a lot of them. There's definitely some gangsters up there. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:25:23 There's definitely some gangsters. I think that's the wrong name for that lineup. You absolutely right, man. Definitely, I've seen gang members all type of shit out there, man. Definitely. If I talk to them niggas, if I talk to them, now listen, not only the gangsters,
Starting point is 00:25:38 the niggas you talk about is my niggas. If I talk to T.I., if I talk to Game, if I talk to YG, them all my niggas, my niggas. Not just like my niggas. I talk to ti if i talk to game if i talk to yg i'm all my nigga my niggas not just like right like my niggas i'm pretty sure they would be like word up why would they name that shit that shit good point from both parties okay moving along the chief secured the number three seed in the afc after beating the Bengals 25-17. The Bengals are eliminated from playoff contention. How do you feel about the outcome?
Starting point is 00:26:11 I don't think it's about the Bengals. We knew where their destiny lied when Joe Burrow got hurt. It's about Macy's team. It's about the Chiefs. Y'all shouldn't feel good about beating the Bengals without Joe Burrow. Y'all have not been looking good the last four to five weeks.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And my question to you, will this lead into the playoffs y'all stinking ass play lately? It looks like y'all are unraveling. It looks like it's a bunch of anger on the sidelines, which I like. I don't want to use the word unravel. I use the
Starting point is 00:26:46 word unravel because Patrick Mahomes, we're not used to seeing him yell at people on the sideline. We're not used to seeing Travis Kelsey throw his helmet. We're not used to seeing Andy Reid bump players on the field when he has a problem with them. It was a decent game they won last week
Starting point is 00:27:02 which they should have won, but is this going to translate in the playoffs? This is the first time in Patrick Mahomes' career that he's going to have to play a road playoff game. What do you think about that, Mr. Titletown? Well, I'm glad you brought this up because Titletown is not built in the first 15 games, Cam. You know, I hate to bring that to the table, but Titletown is not built in the first 15 games, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So we won this game, but the real good part about it, I can't even say we because I'm kind of off. I'm not really with the Chiefs right now. I got a new team, but I'm not ready to disclose this yet. So they were supposed to win that game. I'm happy to win that game. I think it's time to tell Taylor Swift to stay home. I think that I'm going to wreck it. It's time to tell Taylor Swift to stay home.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I don't like it. I have the right to my opinion. I don't like it. I have the right to my opinion. I don't like it. That's what I'm going to say. I want to say something about that as well. I want to say something about that as well. People told I seen in the...
Starting point is 00:28:19 They paid me to tell the truth, so I got to tell the truth. This man got three receptions, 16 yards. Come on. Come on. Come on. Kelsey, come on, man. This is definitely a come on my nigga. And I don't know if we can say nigga to people
Starting point is 00:28:36 non-black, but this is definitely a come on my nigga. We could call people that's non-black nigga. A lot of times we want to be called nigga, nigga, and feel accepted. We could call people That's non-black nigger That's my nigger A lot of times They be wanting to be called Nigga nigger
Starting point is 00:28:47 And feel accepted Yeah Kelsey is my nigger But if he You know what I'm saying He start falling in love And only getting 16 yards I can't go with that This is feeling
Starting point is 00:28:58 Russell Wilson like You know what I'm saying And I don't like it I don't like it What you think What you think Stat You know what I'm saying? And I don't like it. I don't like it. What you think? What you think, Stat? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:29:13 I mean, y'all know I'm all for love, but it just might be a distraction. And Mace, I think I agree with you today. That's the first time. Woo! Yeah, I was giving a round of applause for it. It's called growth.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's called growth in 2024. I got to bring that dog out. I'm going to be honest with you. You don't got to agree with that nigga. He be bugging half the time. That's what I was going to say. That's exactly what I was going to say before he asked you the question. Mad people question mad people
Starting point is 00:29:45 mad people seen you last week and abandoned the Chiefs and all the Chiefs fans are pissed off with you in the comments on our social media on our feeds they have a real attitude with you
Starting point is 00:29:57 Mesa said don't come running back when shit go back our way they seen what you said last week and they are very upset with you trying to abandon the Chiefs last minute. I want you to know that the listeners heard what you said.
Starting point is 00:30:10 You just reiterated that it's not your team again. So now you double down on it. Pause. And they're going to, they're really upset with you. They had a real attitude and they, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:20 they, I'll sum it up with them saying, don't run back and don't come back here. And even makes talk about title time and floating around lately. And then if it end up back in Kansas City, you back there, they mad at you about it. I just wanted to let you know the Kansas City people have an attitude with you about that. Well, I'm happy for them.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Tell them tomorrow I will be disclosing my new team so you want to see the episode tomorrow looking forward to how long is this team going to last for another week or two like how long is this going to last what
Starting point is 00:31:03 who knows he that no don't tell and those that tell don't know okay okay here we go well we are staying tuned okay so this next part is an important conversation for both teams so first the Steelers got a much-needed win over the Seahawks, winning 30-23. Do you think the Steelers can make it to the playoffs? There you go, Steph. Of course, this is her topic. I knew this was a Steelers. They make it in here every week. Shout out to Mike T.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Listen, the Buffalo Bills, I was looking at it earlier. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get, and this is the last week coming up, but I'm going to try and get it. I'm not going to be able to get it by tomorrow because Tito ain't here. But they have all these scenarios on if this team loses, this team can make it. If this team wins and this team, pardon me,
Starting point is 00:32:09 this team loses and this team loses and this team wins, then they could get in. Is that a scenario for the Steelers? Because if, so even if they win, other teams have to lose. So the Steelers have to win this game, but the Bills have to, yeah but the Bills have to lose. So OJ, shout out to you, but I'm not on your side this weekend. Or I think it's the Titans.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, the Titans have to beat the Jaguars for the Steelers to make it. So it's like a whole bunch of different scenarios. That's why Saturday is very important. So the whole thing about this stat is you're asking us if you think the Steelers are going to make it. And it's not even about if they win the game. A bunch of other shit has to happen. But like the best scenario. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And that's why it's going to tie into the next question as well. Because the best scenario would be for the Steelers to win this game versus the Ravens. That's why it's a pretty big question. Because we don't know if the Ravens are going to sit their starters or if they're going to have them in. And then that's going to bring me to my next question about, you know, Texans versus Colts because we don't really touch them much, but that's also an important game. So I'm just wondering overall. You always got a horse in the
Starting point is 00:33:14 race with these bum ass niggas, man. Bum is crazy! Y'all, I'm so excited! I'm so excited! You got ties to all these people these teams listen man anyway I would really like the Steelers
Starting point is 00:33:32 to win because it's two things the Ravens are solidified getting in Lamar Jackson's not playing and I want Mike T to finish the season with a winning record that's the reason I want Mike T to finish the season with a winning record.
Starting point is 00:33:46 That's the reason I want the Steelers to win. Outside of that... Is that being racist, though? What is that? What you mean exactly? Just want Mike Tomlin to win because he's black?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Well, look, at the end of the day, Lamar Jackson's black. He got the MVP. Yeah, I mean, whatever. It's all black Jackson's black. He got the MVP. Yeah. I mean, whatever. It's all black power, nigga. If you want to put a fist up, I will. Whatever you want me to do. Nigga, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Listen, man. Listen, if you ask me my favorite coach. I'm just making sure. Because, you know know when I bring reverse racism up I want people to know where it come from
Starting point is 00:34:29 you know no listen at the end of the day Mike Tomlinson because he you know he hasn't had Ben Roethlisberger a great situation he still finds a way to win my favorite coach period basketball football whatever sports you want to name is Greg Popovich.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Is that reverse racism? It might be. I know. I knew it. I knew it. It's like when it's like you like Duke. It's like a black kid that only like Duke, you know? What's that mean, Mason?
Starting point is 00:35:02 What does that mean? He don't really like black people there's some black people that don't like black people then there might be people that you know that think that way there's white people that don't like white people there's a bunch of same races that don't like the same race they are and it may not even be
Starting point is 00:35:22 about race it may just be about their fucked up individual look okay i i i i ain't gonna say their name i know a white female to get mad when i call a white i'm not white you're white yeah yo no i'm not like kanye if you call him black it's like kanye if you call him black he don't like that if you call him black. He don't like that. Right. You know, these white girls are like, Kim, could you stop calling me that? I'm not doing a fly. I'm not like, yo, white girl.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I'm talking about when we talk about race or anything else. Yo, I'm not white. I said, what are you? I'm Italian. You're white. Look, I'm black. Jamaicans are black. Haitians are black.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Africans are black. Now, are black. Africans are black. Now, we could dice them up into different shit, but we black. Italians don't consider theyself the same white as every other white. And listen, I'm not disagreeing with the Italians. I don't want no sauce. I don't got no
Starting point is 00:36:19 time to have no beef with any ethnicity. This is giving me a lot of Kanye vibes, Cam. I think we should. No, no. We should leave this alone. You could go satire all you want. Am I black or am I brown?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Nigga, you black. That's that, Murda. You black. Your hat is brown, nigga. You black, nigga. Listen, not just to wear it. Now you want to go KRS-One. Shout out to the t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm not black, I'm white, I'm brown. From the boogie there. You do what I was doing. Look, if you did technical, white people ain't white neither. It just, it just, listen,
Starting point is 00:37:09 when you go fill out your, your license, what does it say on there? African American? White? My license, actually, I don't think it have anything on it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Okay. Check it out. I don't know. I haven't, I bought my first license I never even took the test I cheated on that shit too I had it for 20 something years niggas from polo grounds were selling licenses I had
Starting point is 00:37:34 a nigga boy bought my license from a nigga in polo grounds in 97 yo I cheated my way through a bunch of shit did it have your real name on it nah my license is official. It's official. You paid them niggas $600.
Starting point is 00:37:48 They did all the shit for you. You didn't have to go take the test. They came back. What they did was back then, they came back with the paperwork that you passed the test. So you take the paperwork, then you go take your picture
Starting point is 00:37:58 at the DMV. So I got my paperwork, then I go take my picture like I did all the work with it. And now I got my license. Same license for years. I ain't never have to read out his real name. Who the put me on
Starting point is 00:38:12 in them niggas? Polo ground niggas. You ain't buy your shit? You ain't take the test. We always buying them shits. Yo, Murder, you took the test in New York. You took the license test. You took the test?da, you took the test in New York. You took the license test. You took the test? Killer, you going to get wild niggas locked up, yo.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Nah, them niggas, if the statute of limitation ain't up on trying to get a license, it's crazy. That was 97. I have a license in 97. First of all, you was a nigga in jail doing three days for doing 103 miles an hour in Virginia. You was about to do two months for speeding. Where was your license at that day when they had you locked up and you was bugging out in Virginia talking about, get me out of here. Did you have your license that day? I actually did.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I did. So why was you in jail for three days? Just for speeding? They were racist. They were racist. They were racist. They're real racist
Starting point is 00:39:25 oh shit alright well listen I ain't got no problem saying I got my GED cheated on that shit too bought my license
Starting point is 00:39:37 I stand here before you today a great human being man a humanitarian actually a philanthropist a mogul A great human being, man. A humanitarian, actually. A philanthropist. A mogul. A tycoon. The list goes on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:39:53 All from beating the system. If you want to go the right way, listen, man. I'm looking at my license. It doesn't have a color on it, though. It doesn't. Because your face is the color now. What
Starting point is 00:40:06 year did you get your license? I don't know. Different states have different stuff. We don't even got to go into the license. When you go fill out a test when you're in school and they ask you this, that, and the third, this, that, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be totally honest with you. And I know we got to get back
Starting point is 00:40:28 to our topics. We already a few minutes in. I'd rather fill in black than African-American because Africans don't even fuck with us. Wow. Because they don't.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And Americans do? Well, you're American, Mace. You're born American. When you go to the Olympics, and when I say African American, you go over there, they call us Yankees and all that. They fuck with us,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but we're not from the motherland. We're from America. So I would say I'm a black American. When we go to the Olympics as a country and somebody black is fighting from the United States, you don't say African American. You say American. You don't even put a color on it.
Starting point is 00:41:14 It's an American fighter fighting a European fighter or China or Japanese or anything. You're known in the Olympics as an American. It doesn't matter what color you are. You're an American fighting against somebody from Cameroon or Senegal, whatever. The point being is they don't categorize it when it's world competition, but when it's other shit, it needs to be categorized. So I consider myself a black American.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I don't consider myself African American and shout out to all my niggas in Africa, much love, but y'all don't consider us real Africans. Y'all don't. That's that. That's that. Well, my opinion on the Steelers making it to the playoffs, I'm super optimistic.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I'm hoping that the Ravens, you know, sit their starters and I'm hoping that their second round kind of just relaxes a little bit so we can make it. I think that the Bills are going to lose to the Dolphins hot take, but I want to say it on here. So if it works out, that's great for me. If it doesn't, it is what it is against the Seahawks. I think they played a really good game. I think Mason Rudolph is doing great at the quarterback position. We've won our last two games, which people weren't expecting. Even though we have faith in Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph is getting the job done, and that's keeping Mike Tomlin's winning record, and that's what we want to see.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So shout out the Steelers. I'm real optimistic. I'm waiting for Saturday. And that moves us to our next set of questions. So the Colts, Texans, and Steelers are all nine and seven and had their games this Saturday. The Raiders lost to the Colts 23 to 20 eliminating the Raiders from playoff contention and the Texans beat the Titans.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Who do you see winning this weekend? The Colts or the Texans? CJ playing? Yes. He honestly, or the Texans? You tell us. Is CJ playing? Yes. He honestly, like, he has to. Yeah, if CJ's playing, I got to go with the Texans. But I would want to hear what you say,
Starting point is 00:43:17 but I wanted to put my best theory out there before you say that. My opinion is, and to me, Stat probably has the most knowledge on this situation. If you ask me.
Starting point is 00:43:32 She's got inside scripts and everything else. All right, keep it up, we'll blow it up. Keep it up. We'll blow the whole shit up. Keep it up.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Keep it up. Oh, oh, oh, now. Blow the whole shit up. Keep it up. Keep it up. Oh, now. I was wondering where that came from. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Anyways, Cam, continue your thought. I was going to say the same shit Mace was saying. I'm going to go with Ohio CJ Strout, but, you know, not being funny or nothing,
Starting point is 00:44:04 like, the Colts have, you know, I haven't, to be honest with you, I haven't been keeping up with the Colts consistently, but week in and week out, for some reason, like, even like this week, they're still in it. because of all the controversy they went through with injuries with their quarterback position. It's not easy to be where they're at or the position they're in pause with the injuries they had at the quarterback position. So this is a game I probably want to watch more than anything because these are two young teams fighting to get into the playoffs and it all boils down to this week.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So it's very interesting. It'll be a very interesting game to watch. Right. So my analysis, I guess this is a tough one because I think for the Texans to win this, CJ Stroud has a lot to prove. Cause if he can, if he can beat the Colts,
Starting point is 00:44:58 it's like, okay, you're him. Cause he's the only rookie quarterback to get this far among the ones that were just drafted last year. But based off of the stats earlier in the season, the Colts did beat the Texans and their running back, Jonathan Taylor is 5-0 against the Texans.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So I'm going to put it in their hands, but I think anything is possible. I think the Texans have a lot to prove right now. And this is one of those games where CJ can be like, yo, I'm him. So that's my thoughts. We'll see what happens on Saturday. I think the Colts are going to win
Starting point is 00:45:35 based off of the stats that I know. But realistically, I'm rooting for, like, I'm always rooting. I feel like I'm always rooting for the rookie. Like Gardner Minshew has been in the game for a little bit longer. It'd be really dope to have that moment for CJ Stroud to be like, yeah, you know, I got us to the playoffs. So that's kind of where my head's at.
Starting point is 00:45:54 But realistically, I think the Colts are going to win. You always voting for the rookie stuff? Yeah. I feel like any time we have conversations, I'm always going for the younger team because I see potential and I want to see people win. I don't want to see the same people win all the time. That's not fun.
Starting point is 00:46:14 So now you want to see Jacksonville. Um, I didn't say I want to see Jacksonville lose, but at the end of the day, yes, that's my hometown, but the Steelers are still my team. The Steelers are still my team. The Steelers are still my team
Starting point is 00:46:26 regardless. I just want the Bills to lose. Jacksonville got to lose, right? Yes. The Titans have to win. I think that, but it can be the Bills, the Bills lose or Jacksonville lose. I prefer the Bills to lose. I
Starting point is 00:46:42 said what I had to say, then I've been tuned out. I already know what's going on a lot of favoritism I don't think so I've just been said I wanted the Bills to lose because that gives us a better
Starting point is 00:46:56 opportunity to move up I'm talking about one game Indiana and Texas you would rather Jacksonville lose yeah who would you rather lose One game, Indiana and Texas. She would rather Jacksonville lose. Yeah. Who would you rather lose? One of the other teams.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Jacksonville. So Jacksonville's your team? Of course it is. No, I'm saying I thought you were from Jacksonville. I thought you were from Jacksonville. I like when they Jacksonville faces. That's why I don't want them to lose. Okay. All right, Mace.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Heard you, heard you, heard you. Okay, last one before we go to break. The Eagles lost to the Cardinals 35-31, which was pretty unexpected. Do you still see the Eagles as a strong team in the NFC? Just like that. I do.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Sorry. They're definitely getting out of the first round. I'm not thinking they're going to get to the first round and get clipped. I'm looking. I'm starting to look right now. And this is why I really I'm so mad
Starting point is 00:48:06 we need to we should have been on top of this I know we just coming back for season three off break and everything but the scenarios a lot of scenarios matter right now
Starting point is 00:48:16 this week coming up I'm looking right here and I'm so mad because I was watching it last night and I should have mad because I was watching it last night, and I should have wrote it down. But the Eagles and Cowboys are tied. I have to see who are they playing stack coming up this week.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Because whoever wins out of the Eagles and Cowboys, or if they both win, or if they both lose, we need to know who has the exact, who's going to, who, and even looking at the San Francisco 49ers, they're only a game ahead of both of them. Yeah, so it's weird because the Eagles play the Giants and the Cowboys play the Commanders.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Right, and who do the 49ers play? Let me check. And if they all finish with the same record, which they all possibly could, who's going to get the bye in the NFC? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, the 49ers play the Rams.
Starting point is 00:49:16 The 49ers already clinched their spot. Yeah, but who's going to get the bye? Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I'll answer the question. so yeah but who's going to get the bod and yeah and that's what I'm saying I'll answer the question I would I would have
Starting point is 00:49:29 liked to go into more detail because this matters you know the team with the best seed in the NFC
Starting point is 00:49:35 gets a bod the Eagles have not been looking good as of late all year long even when they were winning
Starting point is 00:49:42 I was telling our audience and people who were listening that the games when they were winning, I was telling our audience and people who were listening that the games that they were winning were close games. They could have went either way a bunch of times earlier in the season. And then it kind of- At least eight of those games.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Right, exactly. So it kind of caught up to them. I think they're still a good team. I think that these losses, I think a lot of teams now, I'm talking about the 49ers, not a lot of teams, the 49ers, the Eagles, Miami,
Starting point is 00:50:19 these are losses that you should be happy about getting now instead of getting them in the playoffs. I think they get a taste of losing, pause, and now it gives everybody more momentum saying we don't want to feel like that because if we lose again, our season is over in the next couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It depends on who the Eagles play, what it's going to look like in the playoff picture, but as far as them being a good team, I think they're a good team, but is it going to translate in the playoffs again for them this year is the question, and I don't have the answer to that. What I will say is this.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I don't know. The AFC is always tough. I wouldn't want to, and I know we was focused on the Eagles, but I just want to jump off of that pause for a minute and talk about the AFC real quick. Josh Allen is very dangerous in the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes is very dangerous in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:51:13 We're going to see what Tua does. Lamar Jackson doesn't have the best record in the playoffs. But I will say this. If some type of way that the Baltimore Ravens do go to the Super Bowl, the NFC might as well just pack it up because Lamar Jackson is 20-1 in his career against the NFC. The NFC has no answer for Lamar Jackson whatsoever. that the Baltimore Ravens make it to the Super Bowl, it doesn't matter if the Eagles are good, the Cowboys are good, the 49ers are good,
Starting point is 00:51:51 or whoever else makes it, Lamar Jackson eats the NFC up. Pause. That would not be good for anybody in the NFC. That's what I will say. Eagles, Cowboys, 49ers, whoever you like. You better hope Patrick Mahomes, Josh Atwood, them other niggas get that nigga out of there
Starting point is 00:52:07 before he gets to the Super Bowl. But right now, to me, NFC, AFC, either or, the Baltimore Ravens do look like right now they're the best team in football. Another team that I will say... Go ahead, Murdom, I'm sorry. Yeah. This is a wild conversation, but
Starting point is 00:52:29 what if the Lions win it? What would that do? Listen, we didn't talk about that. That was a hell of a game last week. A hell of a game. I watched that whole game. They cheated to fuck out the Lions, watched that whole game. They cheated the
Starting point is 00:52:45 fuck out the Lions, the Dallas Cowboys. They cheated the fuck out the motherfuckers. I don't know if you've seen the game or not, Murda. The niggas checked in, went to the ref. The ref talking about they ain't seen it. You know, we'll use basketball terms for people who don't, you know, know football. They subbed
Starting point is 00:53:02 in and the ref said that they didn't sub in. They said, ill-eligible receiver. There's a lot of little technical shit. The moral of the story is they both went up to the referee, scored a touchdown, and then they sit there and say, it didn't count. What I do say is this. I like the Lions and the NFC maybe more than Philly, the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And I won't say the 49ers because of what just happened to them. They felt that they should have beat the Cowboys. I like they coached. They coached that nigga. I don't know if you see how angry he was after the game. He was pissed the fuck off. He didn't, yo, I like that nigga. That nigga got tenacity.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I think they're going to take that game with the Cowboys and use that as motivation going into the playoffs. Because, look, they did really well on defense. They, you know, outside of a hand-grabbing Dak Prescott and sacking him for safety, CeeDee Lamb broke free and got a 92-yard touchdown because the person guarding him fell. Outside of that, they played really, really well defense.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And they sat down there and ran the two-minute drill to perfection to get cheated like that. The end of the game was just preposterous. But I do like the Lions moving. And I think they needed that going forward, Murda. I'm not going to lie. I think they really need that. Because if that didn't happen, they would go into the playoffs
Starting point is 00:54:33 and probably lose first round. Maybe so. But that's a great analysis. But what I'll say is this. That coach is gutsy as fuck, bro. Because Dave sat there and got the touchdown. He could have kicked the extra point to tie the game up.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And then, you know, it was still time left. The Cowboys had three timeouts left, 23 seconds on the clock. They could have gotten a field goal range. They could have just kicked the field goal for 60 yards. They could have did it in 23 seconds, but it wasn't guaranteed. That coach said, we winning or we losing.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It was three different, there's two penalties, three different tries, he said we're going for two. After the two penalties, he'd be like, you know what, let's kick the fucking extra point, get our defense to stop him and go into overtime. Nah, three plays in a row
Starting point is 00:55:20 that man went for a two-point conversion down one point when he could have kicked that nigga's gutsy as fuck and i really think people should be where you too oj uncle o oj simpson trying to shit on the lions beware beware oh beware that is a dangerous team going into the playoffs after what just happened to them all right there's a lot to look forward to this weekend and we're all going to be tuned in regarding football. But we're going to go to break and when we return,
Starting point is 00:55:48 we will talk about the Clippers versus the Suns. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don know my stubborn in me won't fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about she wanna be free why am i in this one welcome back so let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Nuggets will play the Warriors.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Underdog fantasy has Jokic at 25 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower camp? I'm going to go lower, you know. Joker kind of been chilling. And, you know, chilling for him is a light triple-double. A little 17 17 9 and 9 You know I'm not saying that ain't That's great numbers
Starting point is 00:57:08 But for the joke You know we be using that nigga 34 16 And 11 I'ma go lower Pause I'ma go higher
Starting point is 00:57:19 Okay Jamal Murray is at 6 and a half assists Do you have him higher or lower mace? What did you say again? Jamal Murray at six and a half assists. Higher or lower? I'm going lower. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Lower as well. Okay. Lower as well. Okay. And Steph Curry is at 37 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have them higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. So the Clippers beat the Suns 131 to 122. So basically, what are your general thoughts on both teams? And then how do you feel about the Clippers beat the Suns 131 to 122 So basically what are your general thoughts On both teams and then how do you feel about The Clippers win You gotta scam that first Yeah no problem The Clippers are very
Starting point is 00:58:20 Very impressive I'm very very Impressed with Ty Lue and the job that he's doing over there. They're actually in fourth place in the West. I think when they got James Harden, don't quote me on this, they could have been ninth or 10th or possibly 11th.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And it looked like it was just, it looked like it was a terrible decision to get James Harden. And now it's looking like a brilliant decision. We said this three or four times on this show, Ty Lue act for 10 games. I don't even think it took him 10 games because I believe when James Harden got there,
Starting point is 00:58:59 it was like one in six or something. We was like, this is just hell. This is going down the drain. And I have to give a lot of this credit to Ty Lue. Of course, the ball has to go in the basket. James Harden, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Russell Westbrook, the rest of the crew over there. Much credit for you guys pulling this thing together.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And you're in fourth place. Look, only teams ahead of the Clippers right now is Denver, Oklahoma City, and Minnesota. What I will say is this to the rest of the NBA. If the Clippers continue to win or even get to a championship or close to a championship,
Starting point is 00:59:43 this is going to be bad for the rest of the country because they're going to say the best basketball players are out of the L.A. area. All four of these players are from the L.A. area busting niggas ass. Killing.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Killing. Content magic. Yeah, exactly. You got Paul George. You got Kawhi Leonard. You got Russell Westbrook, Long Beach, James Hart, and
Starting point is 01:00:05 LA. And listen, man, LA, y'all got some good-ass ballers, man. And I'm really excited to see where this goes. I'm very excited for Clippers fans because year after year, they've been let down
Starting point is 01:00:21 since we can't, we don't know how long. And then, you know, it always seems like it may be a silver lining can't, we don't know how long, but, and then, you know, it always seems like it may be a silver lining. Oh, we get Chris Paul. We got Blake Griffin. We got DeAndre Jordan.
Starting point is 01:00:32 We got love city. We're going to, and then you run into the Golden State Warriors. Damn. Then these guys get older and older and they're not as good as they used to be. You know, you know, we sit there and I sit there and look at the Andre joy and then nothing
Starting point is 01:00:45 bad. He's a super duper great backup point, a point guard backup center, but he was the, he was like that nigga is a Sunday at one time. So it was Blake Griffin. Do you know Blake Griffin plays for a mace? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Who does he play for? Um, who is that? Man. The nigga was, I know he was at Detroit. Then he went to the Nets, right? Then he was in Boston. He might be with somebody else.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Then he went to Boston. He's in Boston for a little bit. Oh, my goodness. The answer to your question is me neither. I don't know what Blake Rivers is like. But they had a little situation where they was them niggas and it always seems like they may have something going on. And
Starting point is 01:01:33 hopefully they won't be selling wolf tickets this time. Because as much as I like what LeBron is doing and with the Lakers, they're not the best team in Los Angeles right now. The best team in Los Angeles is the Clippers at the moment. As far as the Suns,
Starting point is 01:01:56 this is, man, listen. Hopefully they'll pull it together. Look, when I look at these standards, just a couple days ago, they were in 11th place, 10th place. Now they're in ninth place. Even though they're losing these games that seem to be important, they're still in playoff contention. Look, at the end of the day, it's only five teams that don't get a chance to go to the playoffs in each conference. So as long as you're in the top 10, you have a chance to go to the playoffs. We are
Starting point is 01:02:26 a long way from that. But as far as Riverman is concerned, as far as them looking good is concerned, it's just not, it's not happening. I don't know if it's Frank Vogel. Me and Mace went to a game last year. I went to a couple games and it looked like it was something special with Devin Booker and KD outside of them beating the Nuggets. This year, I don't get that same feeling. I just don't have it, and I don't know why. Maybe they're waiting. Maybe it's a switch that they know they can hit when they want to hit it. But I don't get the same feeling like when I knew KD was going to FINA.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I'm like, oh, that's going to be lit. That's, no, nah. Now we talking. Now you're back in championship contention. And I just don't feel that right now. I'm not saying it can't happen. Like I said, the year's just started. We got another month or so to all-star break
Starting point is 01:03:25 maybe more than a month actually and we can we can make our decisions about the playoffs moving forward but right now i'm just not getting the feeling that the phoenix suns are going to pull this together and i picked them to go to the western conference finals with the um Nuggets. Hey. Yeah, this is the first thing we need to acknowledge is the system. Are you ready to say that we believe in the system? Because this is what James Harden was telling Maury, I mean, the guy at the Sixers. Darryl Maury. Darryl Maury, right?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yes. You believe the system now, Killer? That's a great question. Because we were both kind of shitting on the system. Yeah, this nigga Killer always throw me in it, boy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yes, we was We both Yeah we We was kinda Like a funny With the system But um I'm not gonna say
Starting point is 01:04:33 I'm ready to believe In the system Because It's two things Two things You got the system And you got the The process
Starting point is 01:04:43 And neither one of them Have won a championship the system and you got the process. And neither one of them have won a championship. The system or the process. So no, I don't believe in it until further notice. Neither one of them have been the title champ. So who are you ready to give the credit to other than Ty Lue? The system or the GOAT? Because the GOAT said Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I wanted to tell you that. The credit I would like to give to besides Ty Lue is Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook took it upon himself. That ass. Russell Westbrook took it upon himself to say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:05:23 I don't want this hysteria going on to put people in a position to say who should start, who shouldn't start, who shouldn't work. Look, we had Jamal Crawford on the show and me and Jamal Crawford agreed that we thought James Harden should come off the bench because nobody at that particular time wanted to come off the bench. It wasn't Ty Lue that put Russell Westbrook on the bench. Russell Westbrook took it upon himself to say, I'm not going to put the, I think I'm going to come off the bench for the better of the team because I want to win a championship.
Starting point is 01:05:54 So the credit to me isn't Paul George, it isn't Kawhi Leonard, it isn't James Hart, and it's Russell Westbrook for saying, let's see if this works if I come off the bench and then we'll go from there. Yeah, that's a good thing because Russell Westbrook, you're 100% right. He deserved the credit more than anybody over there. More than Ty Lue, Russell Westbrook deserved the credit.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Yeah. That was a good player-coach move. I think there's Chi-Chi at the door. Hold on! My nigga Chi-Chi. And then to answer you guys' earlier
Starting point is 01:06:37 question, Blake Griffin is a free agent right now. But I think Russell Westbrook does deserve all the credit. Blake Griffin ain't even in the NBA right now, man. That's crazy. We've hopped a different, yeah, through a couple of things. I know, because it's like, where did he go? Like, there's so many people around, like, dang.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Okay. So on Tuesday, the Grizzlies beat the Spurs 106-98, and John Morant made headlines for dunking on one beat. What are your thoughts? Did you see? That dunk was crazy? That was crazy. I knew he was going to dunk on him
Starting point is 01:07:09 when I said Jock came back. I told y'all that, right? Do y'all remember that? I like how you feel like you did say that. Are y'all ready to... That's something that I think you did say. I did say that, Jock. Y'all heard that.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah, if you got paws, you got bunnies, you got to dunk on a big man. That goes with the resume. That's what he needed to complete his GOAT status. He might be the new GOAT. I don't know about that because they lost last night. It was an amazing dunk. I think
Starting point is 01:07:45 Minnesota Memphis is way better with Ja. I knew Ja would want revenge after Wimby
Starting point is 01:07:53 blocked the shot. Wimby kind of boarded him and Ja didn't like that. He would
Starting point is 01:07:58 come back and seek revenge but Mace you definitely did say that. I just like I said
Starting point is 01:08:04 Wimby numbers say he's doing good I just with the eye test I don't see that eye of the tiger I don't I just see I see you think he gonna be like Grant Hill is you trying to say that
Starting point is 01:08:19 like where you're super gifted but it just doesn't pan out we're not saying anything bad about Grant but you know like you're super gifted, but it just doesn't pan out. We're not saying anything bad about Graham. No, I think. But you know, like you're supposed to be very promising, but you don't live up to it. I got Graham, hell ahead of him, you know, right now. I'm trying to think who I can relate it to.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I have no idea who I can relate it to because we've never seen a guy with his skill set this tall, but I don't, have you seen him get mad? Have you seen him? Cam is only, it's only Ralph Sampson and them niggas that was that tall now,
Starting point is 01:08:58 killer. It's not a lot. Yeah, but I'm just saying, especially with that skill set. Absolutely. Ralph Sampson didn't have the skill set that he had. I'm just saying it ain't
Starting point is 01:09:07 about the skill set. It ain't about the height. It's about the it's this. Where's this at? Fuck out of here. Yeah. Move, move, move. You're that tall. Can't hide, bro. Yeah. Can't hide. You gotta. I need this.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Can't be cool. I haven't seen this. Move, move, bro. You can't hide. I need this. I haven't seen this. Move. Move. Move. Move. I got this. Move. Move. I don't see that. I don't see a nigga who want it. Or you don't get the ball and you
Starting point is 01:09:39 just go, yo, come on. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's what I don't see. that's where i'm at with that yeah i think that's a really good analysis um but i i still just feel like i don't know it looks like he's still trying to figure so much out which i mean he is but i i don't think it's what people fully expected it's like he has sparks and flashes that shows like okay he's him and then sometimes it's like a little confused but like i'm gonna give him you know his credit i know it's gonna take some time and as far as jaw this is exactly what we all want to
Starting point is 01:10:16 see like we want to see people dunk on wimby we want to see people like put some force put something on the court that's like exciting And it's great to have Ja back because we're finally seeing that on the court. We don't want to see scared players. We want to see people who are going to go for it. Yeah, that's a nigga who got a problem if shit ain't going his way, man. Ja's trying to do the dance, shoot shit out,
Starting point is 01:10:40 dunk on niggas, tell niggas I'm a dog, father just in the crowd with the hoodie on. Nigga, nigga shit. Nigga, the Iron Tiger. What happened? Say that again? You saw the dance T. Moran hit on the dance floor.
Starting point is 01:10:57 We put it on the is what it is page. That nigga, T. Moran had his head with the hoodie on looking in the sky, nigga, like this, nigga. Yeah, nigga, fuck wrong with y'all. We ain't changing shit over here, man. Fuck they talking about? T-Moray.
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Starting point is 01:11:57 Season three off to a good start, man. We lit. See you tomorrow, murder. Go have fun at Juicy Fest. Go have fun at Juicy Fest. Go have fun at Juicy Fest. See you tomorrow, bro. Next. Like when they doing them two for five.

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