IT IS WHAT IT IS - SHOULD THE NFL MOVE TO 18 GAME REGULAR SEASONS & MARK CUBAN REGRETS!

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace and Cam. And today we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, what's good, killer what's going on? Oh, my goodness. Mo, you can't do that. It's too early in the day, Mo, it's too early. It's too early, Mo.

you cross-brain. Why are you cross-brand in? Fill in the public. Let us know. I'm over it. My love is for our state football and my love for Yukon basketball, all for good reasons. But you see, Dan was trying to kill me last week, Paul's, but you see the men in the final four and the women in the final four. So I'm a Yukon Husky. I've been down with the program for six years. And somehow or some way, we're going to get that.

We're going to get it done and get some rings out of there. So down with Ohio State football, but Yukon basketball. Only role with winners. I can't make this up. I mean, you've been consistent. So I have nothing to say. I'm happy for you. Yeah, you're happy.

But they're not. The faces tell it all. We might as well start with it because, I mean, Yukon, like you said, men's and women. Wait, wait. How's everybody feeling? Mo is not a Yukon ladies fan. Mo, I know you're not trying to act like you were with the ladies as well now. Is that what we're doing?

Listen to me. I look, I go, the same program is in the same building of the same roof. I didn't see Ozzie Fudder in the weight room in the locker. I've seen Paige Buckner's. I just sat there and seen the men the same way get ready, prepare for the championship. So I'm down with both squads. y'all to sing when we started the rings out the rings at the beginning of the year remember when y'all kicked me off on friday brought me back on tuesdays and i had to come with the suits

and the rings and all that stuff i've been down come on stat i had to throw some shots in there i see you're down the program yeah well because you got an MCM jacket don't make you a part of the fat boys mo you got you you got to stop with it you really you really do let me ask you a question Most since you're going there. What's up? If there's ever a time where the Huskies play Ohio State, who are you with? That's what I need to know.

Football. That's what you need to know. Basketball, Ohio State. Basketball, you've got. Okay. Basketball, you've got. Look, my loyalty runs, how about this? My loyalty runs so deep with Yukon. And I hate to say this, they invited me to speak to the men's basketball team at

Ohio State. And I said, I can't do it because it just, I mean, my loyalty's with the program. And so for people who don't know, I joke a lot, but I say it's real serious. When things wasn't going well for me and I wasn't who I was, Dan Hurley and Kimani Young, Luke Murray and Tom Moore, all those coaches brought me into their program. So this was before I was like fashionable to bring me into your program. And I don't even play basketball, but they let me come into their program,

work with their players. And they brought me back and forth every month for like five or six years. And so, like, I just got a different relationship with them. It's like it's more of a manly respect, like an old school, manly respect for them, except me in today program. So it never played for Yukon, but they coached you staff who won me over did. We won the championships. That's how I became a big Yukon fan.

So it's deeper than that. So you've been flew out every month. That's what I heard. Nah. You got to watch that, Mo, these days. You got to watch. Nah, those were my guys. Yeah, so, I mean, for the listeners, since you put it out there,

what were you actually doing, like month to month, when they were fly you out there? What was actually going on? Yeah, so, yeah, just, it was a good question. Well, you can't say it now because it was real early over here, but I got a bunch of palm trees in the back. That I was supposed to be my other joke. But the long, the short of the long is that, you know,

you would have guys who transition from inner city. and they end up getting to five-star programs, and they just don't know how to mentally adjust. And obviously my situation was well noted where I was a high-profile athlete. I ended up basically getting in trouble and not knowing how to manage that. So a lot of times which is basically the first part of those years

was helping athletes manage just what it was like to step into a high-performing environment and adjust from the streets or adjusts from the hood wherever we're at. And then from there, I got a lot of skills just basically from running my own organization. A lot of people don't know, but I got about 400 people who work from me and just running high-performing organizations or coaching people,

let them know how they basically fit inside the team framework and so on and so forth. I was able to help the players relate to the coaches and the coach relate to the players. And from there, Dan, early, Kimani, Young, Luke Murray, they just like me being around the team. My mentality, I'm a winner. I talk about winning all the time. And, you know, oftentimes I was allowing the kids. is to cut out all the noise, man, focus on winning,

focus on work, focus on basketball, and basically developing like a winner's mindset. And I think that's why Yukon kept me around it. And eventually, I think that's the whole state brought me into the fold, just because I'm around winners all the time. And I think about winning, talk about winning, and I think that's what I contribute to their program. Okay.

Well, all exciting things. And then regarding the final four for the men's and women's, we will see what happens this weekend. So you came. I'm not saying you're jinx, but, you know, sometimes people come up here and wear certain things, and then other things happen. So, since I got added,

so what you said. I didn't say anything. We'll see what happens. That's what I'm saying. I'm not putting anything out there. You can't even won that game, man. To be totally honest, with you. Oh, yeah.

Dead ass. It was like 17 texts after that shot. Players running on the floor. Dan Hurley head-to-head with a... What was that about, Mom? Why was Dan Hurley headbutting the reference? What was that for? What happened prior to that?

I'm just asking because I don't know the backstory on why he headbutt the referee were 0.4 seconds left. Was him in the rough beefing all game or something like that? What happened with that? That was a technical fact. So, you know, he has a history of his,

I don't want to say antics, because he gets a little bit disrespectful. He has a history of getting at refs when things aren't going his way or there's a call that needs to be made, and he needs to speak his mind about it. And I don't know if these dudes had history. I don't know if, like, you know,

the ref had coached so many games throughout the season. But even when he was asked about it now, it was like a chuckle in a laugh. Like, yo, that's our relationship. And so I get it, they could say that we couldn't, we shouldn't win the game because that could have been in tech. But to me, that was like a personal relationship of like, yo, like, you know, this thing was going down to the wire.

You could have affected it. And he just an intense dude, you know, and that's why I love about Coach Charlie. but I don't know what it was all about. I'll be lying if I said I did. Where's the last time you've been to you, Cormone, Mo? Did you go to any regular season games this season? No.

No. Exactly. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I heard you before the show talking to Beazzo about the kid who hit the shot. You don't know that nigga. You don't know these niggas, man. You don't know these niggas, bro. You don't know these niggas, bro.

You're not here. You know, you know. You ain't been to one regular season game. Now, last year, you abandoned them when they didn't go anywhere. The year before that, when they won you, was there. You don't know this group of players, Mo. Niggas get out again, you show back up. I'm just trying to tell you, Mom, I'm just,

I'm people, you ain't go to one game this whole season. You ain't go talk to no kids. You ain't give me a speech. You ain't been none of us shit you was talking about you is doing, my nigga. Now, if we talked about Ohio State football, he was there the whole season. Absolutely. You were there.

But you know what happened? You Khan was shaky last year and you didn't want to go all the way in, pause. So now you're back because they fight with foreign. So now you know anybody. You walk in that black room, that niggas, I'm like, yo, who he? I ain't gonna know you, a group of niggas,

you went with, you know, stuff. I ain't gonna act like you wasn't with Stefan Castle in them niggas. Hi, I give you that. This new group of niggas don't know you, man. They don't know you. They don't know you. They don't know you.

New hot nigg. They don't know. They don't know. know you, niggas. You haven't been in this all year. They thought he was strep in condition. You can walk in. All-season, stress-ing conditions.

I look, I know the whole start father, man, Alex Carabay, the whole coach staff. I text Luke Murray after the game. Thank you for the shots out. Matter of fact, the last, I think the last time I was in New York, I seen them lose last year to Florida when they got kicked out the playoffs, but before they got. got to the Sweet 16. I think it was a Sweet 16 before the Elite 8. So I was with them all last year. It was up there this summer and fall. You have to remember, I end up basically going through probably in the middle of January with Ohio State football. And then after that,

I basically got into some business endeavors. And that kind of kept me up over the last month and half. But I haven't made it to any games this year. But I did tell my man Paul and Mama do. I said, look, I'm traveling right now. Obviously, I'm not home right now. So I'm traveling right now. I say, hey, y'all go ahead and make the Final Four. I'm there, my man, my playing lands. I'll get over to Indianapolis in those times. I bet you will. I bet you will be at the Final Four.

How convenient. How convenient? I'll be at the Final Four. Yeah, he will. I bet you would be there. Hey, look, I was working out earlier. I said the text. I said, man, what a wonderful show.

I was going to congratulate you, Cam. I was like, man, I said, just watch you up there. We're doing a BBC ball to make me feel like that. I see Mason the Ferrari. I say he started doing her thing with her video log. I was coming to congratulate everybody. Thank you, man. And they throw me up under the bus.

Listen, let me tell you, saying, we consider you like, I consider you my brother. That's what I would tell my brothers. Yeah, we got a whole you honest. Yeah, man. If I ain't fuck with you, I wouldn't have said, and I would be like, hey, man, that's great.

That's just you, you're punk with you, my nigger, man. You're going to be at the final four. All right. I bet you're going to be there. Let's go, Stan. I'm sick. You don't know if they know them Like when they hit the shot

Mo, when they lose, do you cry? No, but listen, I don't cry You ain't down, Mom. You won't cry with them, Nags, Mo. Hey, I'm gonna give you a real story. This is real story, right? So I've been known to do Alex Caraband for four years. He's a kid who, he plays for him as a shooting guard.

She was a very well, a Russian kid. So, like, you know, when you watch a kid grow up and you watch it, went back-to-back championships, you watch him struggle, and you watch him have success. But I was really watching my dude, and he got emotion. I said, I've just seen this dude grow up and become who he became at Yukon. And that let me know how I really felt about their program, when you can see players grow up. It's a few other dudes I've known for two or three years. But emotionally, I got the same emotional roller coaster with Yukon basketball that I got

with Ohio State football. So I ain't ever played, but I love him, dude, just to say. Start, go ahead and start. There's that. We'll be able to recap next week. Okay, so on to NFL. So a lot of NFL owners are actually pushing for an 18 game regular season. So Patriots team owner Robert Kraft said he would like another buy week added to the schedule while the preseason gets trimmed from three games to two.

He also believes every team should play an international game. Colts owner Carly Arsay Gordon is in favor, especially if, the players want it. She pointed out that the current 17 games late means some teams get eight home games instead of nine during a season, but she also wants the preseason to be reduced. So hearing this from the owners, Maurice, what's your take? And what would you like to see happen? My take was it to that when I, I did one thing. I looked at how much money is generated in preseason games versus regular season games. And it is an astonishing difference. The average owner for regular season games profits between eight and a half to ten.

$10 million, right? And I just said to myself, as these owners, and I think it's owners getting to a point where they're tired of players and paying them what they paid them and all of the stuff that comes with them. And I just think to themselves that they said, hey, you know, if we put another game on a record or if we put another regular season game on the schedule that we can generate, I think I've seen us a billion dollars in additional revenue for the league. And as these guys start to ask for more money, these owners are saying, hey, man, we're

going to demand more out of you because we're obviously paying you. guys more. So I think it just comes down to dollars and cents. It's the old school garb of, you know, we own the system. We own this league and we're going to play hardball. We don't care about player. We will advertise player safety, but we need you all to go out here and perform so we can sell your talent against ads. Yeah, I think this only makes sense with the NFL if they expanded to Europe. If they was to expand, like just having one expansion team in Europe, Europe just to see how it goes. I remember when the NBA did this

with the Toronto Raptors and the Vancouver Grizzlies at the time, it generated a lot of money, and I think that could be something that really benefits the NFL, even expand their brand because it seemed like they're starting to play very well over there.

And the fans are really showing up for it. That's the real surprise, in fact. So I think if they were to add a team overseas, they could generate the money that you're talking about, Mo, and they wouldn't have to add no extra, extra things

they just have it out of the country. It's the money, man. I agree with you, Mo. At the end of the day, these owners want more bread. And that's just that. I mean, I wouldn't mind that I love football. Adding an extra buy week,

I can, you know, I'm not mad at this, to be totally honest with you. I'm really not mad at it. Will players be mad at it? That's for the players to decide. I'm not sure how players would feel about it because would the players be making more money?

That's the real question. Are they getting the same salary? Are they going to be making more money? Are they going to make more money because it's an extra game? I don't know players' contract. This is great to ask Michael Irvin how they would probably get paid. He would have more insight on this. But shit, if it's more money for the players,

I see the players going for it as well. It isn't like basketball to me. You don't see a bunch of football players complaining. You got to shorten the season. You got to shorten the season. Like the NBA, they just keep complaining. You need to shorten the season, 72 games, the 65 games. Players are getting hurt.

This, that, and the third. Now, I know 17 games isn't 82 games. It's a big difference. But at the end of the day, I'm not against it. I would love to see more meaningful football because it's going to be the same amount of time. You're just cutting preseason games short and making it the regular season start a little earlier.

But I don't hear a lot of kids. can players say cut the games this should be less amount of games so we'll see what the players associations says and then i know you were talking about international team but just like every team having to have an international game do you guys like that part of it or no maris oh i like it because it expands the brand like this this question makes me think two things um i think we're in a place now when you go with collegiate athletes and professional athletes that And I see it on the show yesterday we are talking about people wanting more or athletes wanting more and eventually you end up getting more. But this is the result of it.

As you get more, more is incredibly, more demanded of you. So we have to push the brand so owners can make more because obviously they're not going to cut in their margins, pay players more and make their pocket decrease. They're saying, how do we expand the brand? And so I like it. It makes the next generation of football players and basketball players or athletes better. from a financial standpoint, so I like it personally. The NFL been trying to put a team overseas. The problem is with doing that is that the travel schedule is six hours from New York

just to get to London. If you're in California, it's like 9, 10, 11 hours to get it. If you're in Seattle, it's probably 13 hours. So the travel schedule and the hours that it takes to get to Europe and back is part of the reason why they haven't done it. I'm not saying that they won't, but they're still trying to figure it out. They've been talking about putting a team in London or Europe, period, for the last 10 years. But people are complaining saying, oh, man, the time, look how long it takes to get to, et cetera, et cetera.

You know, when we talk about teams in Toronto or Vancouver, that's still North America. You know, and football isn't as big. They got football leagues in Canada already. And I think Mace is correct when he says the fans are showing up in London. all the time. You can see it when they go over there and play. It's a big deal. But because of how long it takes to get there back and forth, that's what they've been complaining about close to a decade on why they haven't put a team there yet. Will they eventually figure it out? Hopefully, I think they love football in Europe. So we'll see what happens. But I do think it would be fair for every

team to play a game overseas because it's not fair that some teams have to travel that long, travel that far and then come back on a short week and possibly play on a Thursday night game. Yeah, so that's the problem. That's why I think that every team should play an overseas game if you're going to have certain teams going over there. Yeah, I agree with that point too. Okay, so Colts, owner and CEO Carly Ursa-Gordon and her sisters discuss the prospect of opening their franchise to private equity investment, which the NFL now permits after an affirmative vote by owners in 2020. But ultimately, the Ursaid sisters intend to retain full ownership of the Colts,

even in light of the death of their father, Jim Ursay, the other year. So she said, we certainly looked at private equity. We just don't have any intention of doing it now. But that doesn't mean to say that they won't do it later. So, Maurice, if this happens, what do you believe you would see from their franchise that you're not seeing from others? One, I just don't think it's going to happen. And the reason I say that is because,

I think these women have been a part of the franchise for so many years and sort of seeing their father run it and there's three of them and with three people trying to make singular decisions without how franchises are run that has its own dynamic and I'll leave that to the side. But the other part is that I don't believe it's going to happen but I ultimately think that and I think somebody spoke about this last I don't know if it was Cam or Mace

when they talked about teams that were owned by And they were talking about Jeannie Bus as well. And they were talking about the Brown family who owns the Bengals. I just don't think that it's going to fare well in the long run. I think when you have limited resources and not to say that the coats are broke or the Ursa family is broke, but in comparison to other people, I think that when you make decisions with limited resources compared to somebody who has a bunch of resources, I think the way that you just build the machine, meaning to the team is just totally different.

And I think that this is a venture that is new to them. Not to say that they're bad in any regard because they're women. I think just running a team is new to them. So I think they'll struggle in the short run and then also not having the same resources that other people may have with taking on private equity and building teams and running the machine differently.

I just think that those things, from a structural standpoint, will end up outweighing what the Ursaid sisters bring to the table in the long run. Yeah, I think it will be interesting just to see how two young ladies will be able to run a company of this magnitude, not that they can't, but just the different how you said, un nuances, nuances, yeah. It just, that comes with just females, you know,

communicating together and thinking about what she wants to do versus what this one wants to do. I think it's going to be real interesting to watch it. I will be more interested than them getting a reality show and watching them run the Indiana Colts. And then moving on to the Cowboys, it's been a while since we've even spoke on them, but they've been brought back. So George Pickens is on a non-exclusive franchise tag, guaranteeing him a one-year salary of approximately $27.3 million for the 2026 season, and C.D. Lamb is on a four-year, $136 million deal.

So, Maurice, do you think Dallas can, truly afford both receivers and still build a winning roster? I don't think it's going to happen. Excuse me. And especially after you've seen Jackson Smith and Jigma get paid, you know, that's on the back of Jefferson with the, not the Indianapolis Coast, Minnesota Vikings and Jamar Chase. And I just don't think that they can afford them.

And it just makes me, it makes me think that Jerry Jones is about to have a second part of what he had last year with Michael Parsons of not. being able to afford this top-tier talent that'll help them take them to the next level. So my short answer is no. Yeah, I think they're spending too much money to be able to build the type of team they will need to do. And I think even with giving them that $28 million, that this is going to turn around and potentially to be a problem because every time you pay one, where I receive, all that's

going to do is make other people want their number jacked up. and then you're not going to know who's really why receiver won. He's franchise tag. Yeah. Yeah, not exclusive for the franchise tag. Yeah, that's better than the long-term contract. So that's the best way for Jerry Jones to save money, right? Let's see what this nigga going to do this year.

If I give this niggas, it's long-term contract. 28 million on the franchise tag for Pickers, I think, is pretty, pretty good, considering that he wants a long-term deal. Will Pickers be happy about it? Absolutely not. Nobody wants to get franchise tag because you're the only person that really came up that I could remember in recent memory

off the franchise tag and I could be mistaken that it's other people is Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins made a goddamn living off the franchise tag. Richard and a motherfucker, yo, Nick, what he the third highest player ever? Some shit like, yo, I've never seen a nigga

off the franchise tag make that much money to think he's the top four, one of the top four players in NFL history. Outside of that, you ain't going to get that because everybody's not a quarterback. You got to think about Kirk Cousins. He's not going to get hit like that. Pickers might fuck around and get clipped, get injured,

and that's the reason he doesn't want to be franchise tagging wants a long-term contract so he can cash in on insurance, God forbid, something happens to him. I think this genius for Jerry Jones, I think that you go into this season saying, I'm tired of paying niggas. I'm tired of giving these niggas these long-term contracts. We're going to franchise tag you.

We got CD land. We don't pay back Prescott. Let's see what the fuck happened this season before we motherfucking figure out what we'll do with you long-term. How long can you do franchise tag? Two years straight or just one year in there? And franchise-tagged the nigger again.

We got you two years, nigga. You back-to-back franchise tag. Sit down. We're gonna see if we're gonna win before we give you a hundred-something money, million. I cash you out for $55 million for two years, and we'll see exactly what happened. Brilliant for the Cowboys.

George Pickett, I feel your pain. I totally understand. But if you're the Jones family, you have to be pissed off. 30-something years without a championship and everybody gets paid. Tony Romo's get paid. Motherfucking, that press guy get paid.

See, these lambs get paid. motherfucking, who the niggas before that? Who's a fucking running back they wanted? Zika Elliott. Zika L.A. You get paid. Who do I receive it? That's Brian.

You get paid. Everybody gets paid and we don't have a fucking ring the show for it. No trophies, no nothing. Sorry, George, picking the church. You're caught up in the midst of this. Take the $20 million. That ain't bad.

I get it. I know this niggas out there make it $45 million. I know niggas out there making $4 million. I know niggas out there making $4 million. making that money that you want. But you caught up in the middle of some shit don't really got nothing to do with you.

So, sorry for George Pickett, but I understand it from the Joe's family. Yeah. Okay. And then they also actually restructured as of this month, Dax contracts, Seating Lambs, and then Tyler Smith. So I think it's saving money for sure,

but I think they're definitely trying to figure out what are they going to be able to do because they're paying the wire receivers a lot, which they should, but also like how much are you willing to put into those pieces and not the rest? So we'll see what happens for them. Okay. So let's talk about A.J. Brown and his contract, Maurice, do you think the Eagles will keep or move on from him this season considering everything that kind of went on last year, a lot of the public comments that were made and what we saw? Yeah, I personally think the Eagles have to move on.

it was just like he was so much of a distracting force after they had won on a run and won the championship and like when you know you're a distracting force and you keep on feeding into the distractions just with all the antics, the crime for the ball, the innuendos about, you know, a dog and your teammates and how the ball should be targeted to tell you and don't forget, I forget who they played last.

Remember he was the source or one of the sources for why they lost the playoff game. They lost. I can't recall every play, but I'm pretty sure y'all can recall what I'm talking about. But I just think you have to move on from that. And when you have just that attitude in the locker room, that stuff is like cancerous. You know, when you're trying to go pursue it all and win it all, you don't need somebody distracting your quarterback and just are him having the back of his head

that I have to get the ball to this person, or they're going to cry or it just becomes more to us. So I just think they have to move on from start new and rebuild and a whole other group of dudes. Yeah, I'm in full agreement with you, Ma. I think what makes him really a distraction is he thinks that everybody is a problem to him. That's when you're really like off your rock or when you're the problem and you see everybody else is the problem. So there's really no way to change the situation. I wish them the best with finding him a new home. That would be great for Philadelphia.

Yeah, man, listen. At the end of the day, sorry, I was checking on something. Yeah, listen, you know what's mad? It's almost like, and I'm not comparing AJ Brown to Terrell Owens, but it's almost like that. Always. No, not at all. You know, I'm just saying he's very, very good.

Even though he had a bad with most of his last game, he's crying about not getting the ball. They throw it your way. You got three drop passes. You're not making any plays, and then you get, eliminated. So you're crying all year about not getting the ball. Then when you're targeted, you got to drop passes to get to the next round. And now, now what do you have to say? I think Jaylon Hertz handles this situation very, very well. But what I was going to say is that

he's, I'm not comparing them to Terrell Owens whatsoever. But that's when you have to start making these tough choices like, damn, his problems are outweighing his talent. You don't want to get rid of a Terrell Owens. This thing is nice, but you'd be like, he's detrimental. to the locker room. He's detrimental to us not being winning games. He's not being conducive to the team. Then he'd be like, fuck it. Then he goes to the Eagles, right?

Where the Eagles go? To the Super Bowl. And he plays in the... So you'd be sick, right? He'd be like, shth. Now, this nigger won't go to the Super Bowl

soon as we get rid of this nigga. Now, he didn't win the Super Bowl, but he played injured. He played actually well in that Super Bowl. So you don't want to get rid of him and then he goes and prosper someone else because he is, when he's on top of his game and he's focused, he probably is a top five receiver when he's focused. But all the distractions, the last two years,

it hasn't just been this year. It started in the middle of the season before last that I agree with you and Mace that he probably needs to be somewhere else. Let DeVamante Smith be the one, and y'all figure out what y'all going to do on the back end from there. But it just hurts to get rid of. of a talent this good and then you just be sick when he goes somewhere else and prosperous if that happens.

So did Mark Cuban say he regrets selling the team? We will discuss his comments after the break. Welcome back. So Mark Cuban sold the majority share of the franchise to the Adelson and DeMont families back in December, 2003. And when speaking on it, he said... Hold on real quick, yeah. You know what I just noticed, Joe? Real quick, because I want to repeat that over.

You know what I noticed? Morewell even knows this. That the Knicks lost to Houston last night, right? Sin is here. He's actually in the building. He's not in the room, but he's actually in the building. The Knicks lost, he don't want to come in the room. he don't want to sit in the chair

he don't got nothing to talk about I just remember the niggas here and when the next year the niggins disappeared my bag I didn't even mean to interrupt stat but I just was like my bag no not he actually should come speak on it

before we I don't want to interrupt the show or nothing but I'm just because you know what he harasses Mo too he's like you know what I'm going to call Mo how many times a week Does he call you, Mo?

Like, he never even met him? So, no, the first time I came to Vegas, I met him. Him, B, Zoh, May, Stam, he had met his ankle up that around there. Okay, yeah. Damn. My bad. Why was that the memory?

But, um, no. He's officially the Nix representative. So, like, yes, if he's here in town. He's officially the Nix representative? Yes, that's what I said. Over Spike Lee? You put it in a little of Spike? Okay. I'm not going there.

but like he's you know our representative for the Knicks because you have to talk to... That's why he came in here earlier pause and asked me oh who's your team now he knew it was Houston Houston one

they beat the Knicks last night I know that's why he asked me who's my team now he was trying to make sure he was safe nah you're not safe you ain't low and not that's why before this show ends

we'll have to get him on because, yes, we have to discuss that. Nobody is safe. And when your team loses, we all have to speak. It happens. And Maurice, hopefully it don't happen to you, but next week, same for Yukon. So we'll see what happens.

I know Yukon better not lose with that Smedium on. I know that much. You know what this is about? I'm just peeping out, Mote. You know what's really going on is that. I just realized that we did this to stat with Miami. So she's trying to get revenge.

I see what going on. It was a continuation. I'm like, damn. They were here to help me. Yeah, that's good. My four-upon season was done. I just had to bed for myself. Like, no, we're not doing that.

With that juju on. Yeah, I just realized what's going on. Because it's just like the third time you said. Like the third time you mentioned, well, hopefully next week, the bad luck. Because I already know how that goes. I didn't never had trauma until we had those conversations. So everybody got to vouch for their team. What, Maurice?

I was wondering why you, no, I was wondering why you wouldn't pivoted conversation when Ken was gone. I was like, yo, what's that? You got to save me. No commercial break. Nellie asked that too when we were asked, but I was like, we are not doing no commercial breaks. I mean, it doesn't work like that.

Okay. So, but yes, I'll make sure we have that discussion at the end. Okay. So Mark Cuban, like I said, sold the majority share of the franchise to the Adelson and DeMont families back in December 20203. And when speaking on it, he says, I don't regret selling. I regret. who I sold it to. I made a lot of mistakes in the process and I'll leave it at that.

So Maris, what do you think of his claims? And then have you ever had a similar experience or perspective on what he's saying? It was like, I didn't, not mad about selling the team, but it's who I sold it to. Thoughts. Yeah, I actually thought it was funny because of the people he sold it to, I don't think these people care nothing about basketball. And I think that they probably just, you know, because the original deal for those who may not know, these people were more interested in building a casino than really getting

the team and running the team. And I believe Mark Cuban is a diehard sports fan. I think that when he made his money in Tech, or however, he made it and bought the team, I think that's a large part of his identity to the world. Excuse me. And I think he cared a lot about the employees and the franchise

in general, even so much that when he sold it, he had basically divvied up some of the profits and gave to him that help him build the team and the company. And I think he's an honorable dude. But funny from a perspective that there's so many people out there with money that sometimes we only know popular people, but I don't think these people gave two shits about basketball

and it's shown how they're running it. And it's said that they gave Luca away as a way to dog to town. I think that he's more mad at that. And so I don't know all about the negotiation talk, but that's what I'll say about Mark Cuban and selling the team. Yeah, Mark Cuban had high hopes for the new leadership, thinking that they would probably take this into betting and taking this into Vegas.

You know, when we first started talking about the new owners, they had high hopes to, you know, transition this into one of the towns that they can apply betting to, which was right here in Vegas. But when that didn't go through, it's like sometime you didn't really get to see that plan. And now he's looking at it with no Luca here and different things like that. And saying, regretting the choice because you want to see somebody

even when you let something go, take it to the next state. So when you talk back about what you used to do, you can say, oh, yeah, I sold this to so-and-so. But the way they're running it doesn't look like it will be able to have that bragging right. So that's part of what's eating at them. You ain't care when they had that $3.5 billion.

That's what it be like, man. What's $3.5 billion, do your thing. Then when shit go left, you start thinking about it. Money in your pocket. See, Mark still has 20%, 27% of the team. That's what's even more irky, right? I didn't know that. Like, yeah, he still has 20%, 27% ownership in the team.

So it's like he's a partisan bullshit. But he's not the governor anymore. They call him it the governor instead of owner. And he's not the majority owner. So he was, you know, like I agree with you, Mo. he loves sports and he loves the Mavericks. And, you know, he was even making a play reportedly a month ago

to try and get some investors to buy it back from the people that he sold it to. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, let me buy my shit back. I don't know if they're willing to sell it back, but he's definitely in the play for trying to buy it back. But, yeah, when the money's in front of you, These are conversations that you need to have, right?

And we talk about this with negotiations. And I remember, I won't get into too many details, but Mace is really good when it comes to negotiating because he asks a lot of questions. He was trying to negotiate for sin against me. And for sin's deal on talk with fleet. And sin didn't even know what he was, questions to ask.

He didn't ask the right questions. But you have to ask these questions because now you're more, you'll be Mark Cuban. And we're not talking on the same level with sin and Mark Cuban. We're talking about billions of dollars. But if you don't ask the right questions

and be specific, these are the things that you will regret later on down the line, not asking the right questions. And I'm not saying Mark Cuban might not ask the right questions. You know, is one of those such a question, damn, what movie is that? Matter of fact, it's Omar, pardon me, not Omar.

I don't know how many people watch the wire. And it was a, yeah, it was on the wire, you know, just 20 years old. But it was a part where Marlow took over one of Avon's old blocks and one of Avon's old workers was like, so what you're going to do with this? And he said, none of your business. And they ain't nothing. Mark, it's none of your business.

Do you want the money or you don't? Mark could have asked a bunch of questions. You're like, Mark, this don't concern you no more. Do you want the money and the 27% and don't ask me any questions? We don't know. I'm just assuming. Because Mark Cuban doesn't appear to come across to me as stupid whatsoever. Not even a little bit.

One of the smartest people and not only smartest people I'm hands-on owners that we ever seen, you know, outside the Steinbrunners and Jerry Buss and shit like that, it's more modern day. So it might have just been, listen, I want the money, I'll take the 27%, so you're going to do this, do this, do this. Yeah, Mark, we're going to do all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sign this for me.

And that may be the problem. This is all the assumption, I have no idea, but I knew, no, that he was trying to put some people together to try and get the team back. or at least that's what reports were saying. Yeah. Okay. On to Team USA. So they announced its training camp rosters for April.

And neither Caitlin Clark or Angel Reese was included on that roster. But Asia Wilson, Nefija Collier, and Sabrina Inescu, where some of the stars featured. So I know a lot of people hear the what, and they're like, that doesn't make sense. So a WMBA insider spoke on the absence and said, not on this roster or camp, which is normal. players will rotate through camp so staff can evaluate.

But just hearing that, Maris, what's your opinion on this? And then do you think that people in charge of marketing women sports are kind of dropping the ball when it comes to situations like this? Yeah, I thought it was crazy. And I thought they dropped the ball significantly. And I've only cared about sports in the last, probably women's sports in the last four or five years, hearing about five names, Asia Wilson, Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Flauget. I don't know Flauget's last name, the girl from LSU, and probably one other part. And what's the girl from USC?

Was it, is it Juju? JuJu. Yeah. Yeah. And so those names are synonymous with modern day women sports, just like you have people who were synonymous 10 or 15 years ago. And those people create so much traction and get so much attention. And I think sometimes with women's sports where they may be lacking where men's sports isn't, they just don't market, like just they just don't run with who's hot because they try to say, you know, everybody needs to earn their deal. But I don't think their brand is mature enough to sort of treat it the same way that men's sports treats their brand and they can have different conversations. So I think it was a big miss. I think like if I had those race horses, be what, you know, Caitlin,

Clark and Angel Reese, I would be putting their name out front. I will be getting people interested and I would keep them in the forefront, just like when I fell in love with basketball, it was magic, it was bird, it was the dream team, and just the stars were basically treated as stars. And so I think they miss with that one. Yeah, I definitely, definitely think that they are dropping the ball without having either Angel Reese or Caitlin Clark on this team. And I'll tell you why, The team just is going to get more publicity, even though it's a USA thing, right? If Caitlin Clark is on that team, it's going to be noted differently. It's going to just be treated differently.

I look at her and Angel Reese playing together. That would be a candid moment. Even if you had to use them as reserves or like, what's after reserve mode? What do they have, like, the injure reserve? Like even if they're just on the trip, you got to take them on the trip. I just, I think it's just a part of marketing this WMBA to a bigger audience, right? The people that you're bringing, everybody's going to be asking about Caitlin. And then once they start asking them about Caitlin, you know, Angel Reese put her name with Caitlin.

So now everywhere they go, you want to see them two together. So I think having them out there will do phenomenal things marketing-wise. for the WNBA. And if they're serious about paying more and bringing a bigger audience, this was the time to do that. That's the one I was looking. Yeah, my nigger.

Sorry. When it come to this, man, I think this is all. Caitlin Clark is going to be on Team USA. And so is Angel Reese. It is 2026 in March. The Olympics is 2028 in the summer. I think that if you announced it they're on the Olympic team right now

is going to be more of a distraction going into the WNBA season and people are going to ask about that. There's no way at least Caitlin Clark doesn't make this team. It's just not going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, then I just stand corrected. But we're worrying about what they're announcing the Olympic team in 2026 March, even though you do have to start getting this together and prepping it a couple years early.

But you're going to sit in and tell me that one, two, three NBA season, WMBA seasons are going to go by, and you're not going to have Caitlin Clark on there. We have three seasons of WMBA basketball before the Olympics even come into play. Half the people that's on, I'm not going to say half, I'm exaggerating. But it's going to be players on this roster now

that's not going to be on the roster when it's time for the Olympics. We're talking about two years and three seasons at WMBA basketball coming up. I'm not even tripping over this right now. We're more than over, over two years away from this. So this is no big deal for me. Okay.

And then last thing before we wrap, we got some back and forth between Pat Beth and Dwayne Wade. So Pat Bev made the claim, when you talk about a better player, James Hardin is a better player than Dwayne Wade, right? So Dwayne Wade caught wave at that comment and said, I don't understand how you can have a conversation

about me and state facts when you're, you were never as good as me. Where is your facts to say that someone is better? Don't ever fix your mouth to say somebody is better. than me when you wasn't better than me at anything in this game of basketball, you can't do that. So Pat Bev, you know, always comes back with some lengthy explanations. But he had also said Wade's probably the only top 10 shooting guard who didn't shoot 30% from three from his career.

You shot 29%. Russell Westbrook, we make jokes about him. He shot 31%. Andre Drummond shot 31%. So just hearing this back and forth between Dwayne Wade and Pat Bev and what Pat Bev is having to say in his strong claims, do you agree or disagree? Maurice? I don't know.

Would agree or disagree? I don't really have an opinion on that. I will say this. I don't like how, and I think it's probably building off of which I was talking about on the show yesterday where Cam was talking about Kendrick Perkins. I don't think you can disqualify somebody's opinion from them not basically being as good as you in that sport. People have eyes, people have opinions, people have a right-day opinions, and just,

just because they may not line up to how you may feel or how you want people to feel or have a reverence for you, you know, you shouldn't get pissed off at them. Like when his response came, it didn't have nothing to do about the game. It had everything to do about, like, who are you to say this? So that's, like, my opinion on that. But two, I thought I was like, man,

is this like, do you feel different when somebody from your hometown? Because I think they both from Chicago. Yeah, they are. And I said, do you feel, yeah, do you feel different when somebody from your hometown disrespect you or say something personal versus, like some random analysts because the way he don't talk to anybody about anything

and I thought like is there something there that may be in the mix and so I don't know and I don't and that's Pat Bell's personality that's how he played ball that's that's that that approach that Pat Bev has

is his delivery in sports I think that's why Barr still picked him up I think that's why we're talking about him right now but I didn't like the approach is he a Hall of Famer? Is he better than James Harden? I don't know that's like the who's the greatest of all time conversation. It's all subjective, but I didn't like how he tried to disqualify Pat Bev as if like making

it to the NBA and playing for as long as he did isn't an accomplishment at all. That's my opinion. Yeah, I think when it comes to this situation, when you really think about what DeWade is saying, he's not right in saying just because you're not better than me, you don't have an opinion. but I don't think James Hardin is better than D. Wade. I think, you know, as a one-on-one player, but if we're talking about as a baller, no, D. Wade got it done. Until I know, and people are going to say, yeah, but Maze James Hardin is this.

Listen, I've seen D. Wade show up against Kobe. I've seen D. Wade show up against Stackhouse and them that, that, I've seen D. Wade. just show up too many times. I know I know sometimes you see people do things off the court that make you kind of play with their legacy a little bit, but not. I got D. Wade better than James Harden. And that would just be my take. You could say what you want. The man got four rings. And you could say, well, he played with LeBron. Well, Arden played with K.D. He didn't get one. It's just the writing is there. It's all over the wall. I don't know if people just playing one-on-one is different than playing basketball to win. So I would go with DeWade all day.

Yeah, me and Sin was having this debate. Sinney and Bezo actually went with D-Wa. I said it's no wrong answer, but I'll go with harder. D. Wade went with a 2005 shack right off the championship in 2000. three for Kobe, then you summoned Chris Bosch and LeBron James to come down to Miami to play with you. You win with them. You don't win without them. He has three championships, not four. Oh, yeah. You're right. No, but I'm just saying, but I don't think it's a wrong answer. I don't think, I'm not mad at sending me, like I said, sometimes it's arguing with saying, but I think it's a great debate,

but I'm still going to go with James Hardin because James Harton played with some outstanding people to you. I think about James Harden, Joe L.M.B., Chris, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, absolutely. But, um, Kyrie for six games, you know. But at the end of the day, I just like James Hardin's bag. James Hardin has his bag is crazy. I think he has more on the Burke and the D-Wa. Just his mouth page.

You know. You like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's a great comparison. Mo, I think I told Mo before. I don't know if you was on the show, Mo. I was saying how you were telling me how you think.

And I still would go with Caitlin Clark. But you made me realize that Page Becker's bag is better than Caitlin Clark's bag. Yeah. But I'm going with Caitlin Clark because she just wants to get it done. You know what I'm saying? Like, she just pulled from 45 feet. But we're talking about moves and mid-range and up-fixing. Her bag is deep, Pace Becker's bag, man.

But I don't know if you was on the show, but I wanted to give you your props because one day I was talking about that. But I don't think it's a wrong answer on either one. But I understand people going with D-Wade. I'm just going to go with James Hart. And be facetious about it. Let's go, James.

Let's go get you a ring out there, you're in Cleveland, you get to move all these things long. It's your last chance, nigga. I agree there are no bad answers, but there is somebody in here who might think you actually have a bad answer and he's been shaking his head on the side. So we might have a couple comments regarding this and the next. Hello.

What's Sin Matt about today? That's the segment. It's being continued. Hello, Sun. How are you? Nah, y'all are ridiculous. Can we go back to that Dwayne Wade? What's your time?

Marty, you know better. Dwayne Wade? I said D. Wade is better. and James, sorry. Oh, you did? No, it was one take you said he agreed. He had more than his bag than Dwayne Wade? You said, I agree.

No, no. That was Paige. You just said? That was Paige. You just Paige? All right, so I ain't mad at you no. My bad. Come up here trying to start with everybody, man.

No, no, no. Yeah, James, um, Dway started that move, pause behind the leg. Everything. He got, he got moves. You think that Dway has more moves to James Hall better handle and passing? Yes, he's an all-around better player. Not passing. Oh, right.

Oh, when you go razzle-dazzle? Bro, he's like the league and assists. Okay, so hold on. He's an assist leader for the league, and he got the six men. How can you compare somebody that came off the bench to a star since he's been a rookie? He came off the bench.

Who's on the team when he gets there? Oh, my Lord. Sheffalocia? You couldn't start over Sepulius? Kevin Durant is Russell, Russell Westbrook, and they bought James Hardin off the bench. For who? To sub who?

Suffaloia, right? Russell Westbro. Where Sepulia? Point being is this, you know what? But you know what happened? He said, I know these niggas, I'll be busting the ass in practice. Let me go do my thing. That's why I'm gonna get up out of here.

Because the coach don't see it, but I see it. Dwayne Wade never had those problems. I hear you, but he went straight to Miami. Pat Raleigh went to see him in Marquette. What you're doing now is you go on Instagram and you're going on the hotness for now. James Hart been to the least 17 years. I understand that, but he's hip-hop.

You're talking about. He's hip-hop, he's hip-hop, little baby videos, I get it. I get it. I get it. No, no, no, I get it. Dwayne Wade is not that. Yeah.

Yeah, I get it. And Dwayway was booked for him. So people like this. If you're going to look at the niggas with the party, then you like the niggas with the fingernail polish. That's just that. No, not. If we're going off the court.

Maybe that might be the reason you say it hardness better. If we're going off the court, then you like a nigga who do a lot of different shit that I don't necessarily agree with. You always got to get personal. You don't have personal. You don't have personal. You know a lot of shit that I don't agree with.

You always got to win a lot of. argument with a gut punch. What we're talking about? Listen, Bison Mason, Joe, Mo, everybody agreed that Duwayway would better. What's the problem?

What's wrong with you? You ever see Sesame Street? The kid in the box that's not doing his own thing? That's me. I'm the kid in the box doing his own thing. Even if it's wrong?

The kid in the box. Doing his own in the street. You never see that stuff. You're going to have. But like that's it. Yeah. Four boxes is one kid doing his own thing. That's me.

I'm the kid in a box doing his own thing. One of these kids is doing his own thing. Come on. Can you guess which one? I don't know that. That was in the 90s. I've watched Sesame Street. I don't know.

Oh, you watch Sesame Street. Now she can dip in the 90s. It's okay now. I thought of all right. All right. Doing their own thing. Come on to you guess which one, look. Okay.

Sin, next question. While he's in the box doing his own thing, Nick, got to bring it up. So you spoke when they were winning. You also got to speak when they're losing. Lost to the Rockets, 11 to 94. What's up?

Well, hold on. When you address the next, you say clenched. Some clenched. Oh, man. Okay. Not a lot of people are clenched right now. I noticed that that word means a lot.

Nick told me that that word means a lot. Clenched, all right? We know where we're going. You just relaxing. Yo, Mo, what's up? Make the playoff. That's what it means. That's what it means.

It's what you mean. It's a sad, man. We're some clenched-ass niggas, man. You know what? Hey, yo. That's crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy.

That was crazy. That was a lot. You know, that's what I'm going. We're going to go. We said we're a fresh ass. Yeah. Yeah. That was fit.

They let you go the first time. Where is your gavel, Mace? Where is the gavel? Everybody's in the past. Well, thank you, Mr. Nick's representative. We'll have to have you back at some point. I'm sorry that that's how it had to go. Yeah.

Because I know you have more to say. Yeah, you know, I mean, we establish our spot, you know, and people don't like it. It's okay. I'm cool with it. It's okay. You know. That was well. You saw.

You conquered. We will continue the discussion. Just not today. Half of the panel has left. That's all we got. Y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. All right.

My nigga Mo. Mo. See you next week. Bring you, Yukon Pancho. Regardless. Regardless of what happens. Okay, all, thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.