IT IS WHAT IT IS - SPIKE LEE GOTTA GO IF WE WANT THE KNICKS TO WIN & MICHAEL PORTER JR THEM CLAIMS IS WILD | S4 EP2

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

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by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. What's good, man? What's happening, man? You all right? Yeah, man. I tried to sneak in with purple.

Look like you work here to win. I had purple on yesterday. He said, excuse me, sir, which way? I said, I don't work here, man. Why you talking about which way or something, man? He thought you was a part of hospitality. Yeah, you know, some of them niggas be wearing purple blazers and shit. I said, look at my pants, boys. I have on a suit. Them niggas shit don't be matching.

They just got the purple blazer and shit. I bought something in case you would need it if you... That's crazy. It's for you. It's actually for you. That's why I kept it out while the show was on. You bought that. So you don't have to be accident...

Yeah. Because I don't like you. I don't like you accident strangers. I don't like you. The nigga came in yesterday... You bringing me cocoa butter now, Cam? It's not cocoa butter. What is it?

It's shea butter. I brought it in, actually. But yesterday, you asked for some lotion. They said, oh, we got it, Vaseline. And you thought about it. So I kept it out before the show started, purposely. Just because you my brother. That's crazy.

I don't like you asking niggas for Vaseline. You don't know and all that, man. Paul, let me see what it is. Yeah, hey, man. Here. No, we found it. Here. Hey, brother.

Yeah. Oh. I get you something, man. You know, I know the people who make it. You know, let me tell you something. Yo, this is for him with love. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Let me get that back there. He said, yep, you can take this back. So let me tell you, it's women's and men's. What's the backstory, boss? The backstory is this. You know how many people want to be sponsors on this show? So I say, let me see your product. I got all type of shit in the house.

I knew it wasn't just me. I got all type of food being sent to the house. All type of shit. Yo, can we be a sponsor on the show? Yo, can we be a sponsor?

Free clothes, free everything. And listen, I'm not just taking you guys' stuff. I got to test the marketplace and see if it works out so you know

I'll bring certain things to Mason see if he's interested in it so I'm not just taking y'all guys product and like Cam just let me see

let me see let's see on the show right now yeah so cause me actually Let's see on the show right now. Yeah. So. Because me, actually, this looks like, let's see.

Yeah, man. Listen, they want to, I'm not going to tell you how much they want to pay. They have for children, man. They actually make deodorant, all type of shit. But, you know, I get a lot of free shit. Oh, this is smooth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I wouldn't have bought it on the show if I didn't like the product,

but is it strong enough to fit the show? Pause. That's what I'm saying. And I don't mean to be rude, but we're at the age where we're expensive and we're unreasonable. And I don't mean to be like that, but you got to know your value.

But I'm always willing to help out people who have good product, who don't necessarily have the money as well, neither. Now, if you got the money, we're going to talk to you. But even if you don't, I'm willing to work with you. The reason why I haven't pursued it so much, I don't know if Mace is willing to work with you without the money. Without the money. He doesn't throw any pity parties.

So I'm not sure if without the money if it's going to work. You'll work with him without the money, Cam? It depends on who it is. The way I would do it is this, and I'm just teaching y'all some business. I'll give you an example, right? So, for instance, right? People, I'll give you, I'll use, and there's a bunch of different scenarios,

but I'll just use beats, for instance, right? Music beats, like your instrumental, if Mace Raps or I Rap on it or whatever. So, sometimes I do freestyles or whatever, and sometimes people want money, sometimes people want to be tagged. So, if you want the money, fine. Don't ask me to tag you if you took the money.

So I know it's not the same scenario as here, but I'm saying me tagging you, baby, may be worth more than me giving you the original money because sometimes people might be like, hey, yo, hold on. I won't fuck with them if they fucking with them. And then you may get 20 niggas who want to buy your beats as opposed

to me just paying you once and nobody know who you are. Same thing. I get custom sneakers. I'll pay the full price for custom sneakers. Yo, you could tag me. No, you didn't give me a discount. You didn't say yo. You didn't say yo. Yo You didn't say, yo, yo, Kim, pay half

and just tag me. That's business. So at the end of the day, you want me to pay you and help you make some more money and not go and look out for me. What am I getting out the deal? So when I say less fortunate,

sometimes people have good stuff, they don't have the opportunity or the outlet or so on and so forth. And some people just don't know how to do business. You'll rather take $700 from me when you can potentially make have good stuff, they don't have the opportunity or the outlet or so on and so forth. And some people just don't know how to do business. You'll rather take

$700 from me when you could potentially make $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 off just a tag. So, different scenarios.

Sorry to be long-winded about it, but yeah. Fair point. No, good lessons learned. But somebody who might need to learn a lesson is the Lakers

because they blew a 20-point lead losing to the Nuggets 101 to 99. Jamal Murray hit the game winner and the Nuggets have now beaten the Lakers 10 straight times. How do you guys feel about the crazy ending and that stat?

Man, man, man. I was so close to saying AD had a phenomenal game. And then I turn on the TV and he's falling in the crowd. With Murray hitting a shot over him. I'm serious. I was like, this is the game. This is what I'm talking about all through the game. I'm looking.

I'm saying this is exactly what AD needs to be for the Lakers. And I was also about to say that this was kind of the role that I was talking about LeBron taking. I think when I first turned on the game, he had about 12 with 11 assists. And I was like, this is the type of LeBron that they need in order to be very effective at this stage in his career. When he takes on the role of being a facilitator, it makes AD play a little bit better. And we saw that yesterday. We saw that even AD had 32 points, 11 rebounds, 2 assists.

I mean, the shot that Murray hit over him was crazy. It kind of nullified all of that. But I think he had a great game. And Michael Porter Jr. This is the Michael Porter Jr. I thought I would see before he got, he had the back injuries when he got there. At one point, they were saying he would be like the next LeBron.

He didn't live up to that just yet. But he's playing really well there. And Joker, what can we say? Skills on wheels. 27 points, 20 rebounds, and 10 assists. I'm real interested to look back at what we predicted, because it seemed like everything we talked about kind of happened. What do you think, Cam?

Say what? What's the surprise? Nick Stewart? Denver was going to be up 2-0? I gave the Lakers one game in this series. Yeah. You know, so the most shocking part about it is the comeback pause because the Lakers looked totally in control for three quarters.

Like you said, AD came out looking good. LeBron was looking good. It was a, it was a period during the second quarter where LeBron was gas. He had to go to the bench, like subbed him out. He went to the end of the bench.

He was gas. And I was like, damn, man, these niggas got to help out LeBron, bro. They have to help LeBron out. And they did a good job.

I think D-Lo had six threes in the first half. Yeah. He had a terrible performance the first game. He came back out first half, shut niggas up, hit six threes. I think he was six for ten throughout the whole game. I mean, pardon me, throughout the first half. And I was like, wow, he's looking really good. Pardon me if those numbers aren't right, but I know he did hit six threes.

And I was like, okay, okay, niggas might come here and steal one. Yeah. It was definitely looking that way. Yeah, Anthony Davis looked really good, like you said. But I said to myself, they're not going to win at halftime. And I did. Even when they got up 20 or 17 points, I believe, you still thought they wasn't going to win?

I said they wasn't going to win. I just didn't believe it. Y'all think about it. Joker had a double-double in the first quarter. Yo, the nigga had 11 points and 10 rebounds in the first quarter. So even like, you know what it is, Murda? It's like we sit here and we look at 80 stats and we say,

yo, he had a great game. You know, he had. 27-20. Yeah, you know, I'm talking about

Anthony Davis, pardon me. Oh, yeah. I'm on my step. 32-11. Yeah, you got 32. That's a great game.

That's a great game. But you sit there and you go joke a triple, a walking European triple double Bouble-B. That thing is a triple-fucking-double-walking. And it's just, to me, it's not really much to dissect here

outside of LeBron looking spectacular, Jamal Murray looking spectacular, Joker. The stars are out. The stars are out. And I don't know what more the Lakers can do because they look sensational for three quarters. Yeah. Yeah, those are the games you don't want to lose.

You don't want to lose that. You play very well, so it's like, what you going to do differently next time? You got the maximum effort out of AD and you still lose. Yeah, but you got to think about it too. What I'm looking at here, when I was looking actually before we started taping is the plus minus with AD

on the floor. It's zero. They wasn't up or they wasn't there. They don't gain anything with AD on the floor. It's zero. When he's on the floor. It's zero. When he's on the floor, it's not an advantage.

As good as a game that he's having, it's not. We don't lose, but we don't win. Right, exactly. When they say it's zero, is that overtime? Well, let's look at it.

How would you look at that? Does that mean we go to overtime? I look at the other players. You got Hutch Mara. I don't want to say his name wrong. Minus seven. Dinwiddie, minus nine. Hayes, minus four.

Everybody else was a plus on the floor for the Lakers. With LeBron on the floor, they was just plus two. Let's look at the Joker, though. This was pretty bad through the night because the game was going back and forth. Joker was only plus one

tonight, to be totally honest, which Jamal Murray was a negative two. But AD can't be negative or positive. It's crazy. It needs to be at least a plus four, plus five, plus six with AD on the floor.

You know, it was a time, and I don't know if people remember this because we don't remember two hours ago. Yeah. AD was all world. Yeah, it was like that in New Orleans. Right. AD was all world.

This is the reason why LeBron James and Rich Paul went so hard, paused to get AD. And they were like, listen, LeBron James, as much as me personally, I'm one of them

stick with your own team. Make it happen. I'm not one of them. I'm going to trade here. I'm going to try and win over there. If y'all want to come where I'm at, we can figure it out. But I'm not one of them, I'm going to trade here, I'm going to try and win over there. If y'all want to come where I'm at, we can figure it out. But I'm not mad at the players doing that also because you're in a situation now where

you can control your destiny, so to speak, in two, three, four years, depending on what your contract is. It's fucked up when you play, well, we talked about this maybe a week or two ago, when an owner could just trade you. We talked about this maybe a week or two ago when an owner could just trade you. So now when you're controlling your destiny, I'm like, this is kind of dope. I don't know if I would do it, but I respect it because there's so many players who got traded in their sleep. They get on a plane in L.A. and when they land, they're on a different team. So I respect it, but they went really hard to get AD, LeBron and Rich Paul, that is.

And don't get me wrong, got them a championship in the bubble. And I respect the bubble championship. To me, that's pure basketball. Even though the crowd helps you at home or works against you on the road, whatever it is. That was pure basketball for me. But you ain't winning in the Staples Center or crypto, whatever the fuck it's called now.

You got to win at home, my nigga. It doesn't look like y'all are going to do it. Looks like Denver got y'all number. And what this game does, it fucks you up mentally. Because you said we did everything we could possibly do, and we still don't win.

So this is really a mental win also for Denver and a fucked up mental loss for the Lakers, in my opinion. Well, unless you have another comment. No. Okay. Also, speaking of the Lakers and AD, so the finalists for defensive player of the year was announced, which is Rudy Gobert, Wemby,

and Bam. So basically in discussions, this is AD's 12th season without even being running for the trophy. So he said, I'll never get it. They're not giving it to me. The league doesn't like me.

I'm the best defensive player in the league. I can switch one through five. I can guard the pick and roll the best in the league from a big standpoint. I block shots. I rebound. Who said that? AD. This was like right before, you know, this game. Right before that shot was hit on?

Well, this is when it was released right before this game. Oh my goodness. Right before that shot was hit on? Well, this is when it was released, right before this game. Oh, my goodness. I just thought that was interesting. Well, yeah, yesterday. What we should do later on is go over all the finalists forever because the finalists came out for all the wars. MVP, Sixth Man of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah.

Yeah. But sorry, Mace, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Yeah, I think AD is a great defender. It's just not against Denver. I think something happens against Denver because even when you look at his stats, they don't have blocks here. I mean, when you say you're doing well on defense,

I look for steals. I look for blocks, especially from a big man. And you can kind of count the rebounds because some of it could be changing shots and getting a rebound. So I look into that. But how do you make that kind of gripe and complaint and then get the game-winning shot hit on you? It just makes no sense. Like if you're playing great defense, he got a chance to shoot. I'm going to prove it. He said he played

well off the pick. Well, this last play was a pick-and-roll play. I mean, not even a pick-and-roll. He acted like he was going for a pick-and-roll, came to the right side, and just hit a silly, like, school crossover.

I could have done that. Stepped back and shot the jump shot at mid-range. And that's supposed to be in the stands, AD. We just telling you the truth, AD. And I think if he never goes to the Lakers,

all this pressure wouldn't be on him. Everything we're saying is because you're in a Laker uniform. If you were in New Orleans, it wouldn't matter. You guys would actually be better, too. Yeah, what I have to say is,

Mace kind of took the words out of my mouth. You don't play good defense against the Joker. Yeah. You lost 10 straight games. The nigga's having triple doubles on you. He's disrespecting you in the playoffs, the regular season, and anything else. Y'all have not beat the Lakers.

Lakers have not beat Denver since 2022. December. So that means the whole 2023 y'all lost. We almost halfway through 2024, and you guys still not AD. They're monitoring you against the Joker, all right? I don't know if you play good defense against Portland. I don't fucking know, nigga. You're being monitored upon the best against the best.

And when you play the best, you're not getting the job done. Did you see the move that Joker Paul's put on him on the box? Yeah. When he spent them out of shoes? Yeah, spent them out.

He ain't got no footwork. Nigga, man, listen, bro. That was crazy. That was worse than Olajuwon with Shaq. Yeah, listen. That was... I'm not going to go there.

Olajuwon got a lot of disrespect. No, I mean, that move, that one move that he did on Shaq, I would say this one was worse than that. Yeah, because a lot... No disrespect to Shaq, your fam, Shaq. Yeah, no, it wasn't even about Shaq. When I go think about Olajuwon and shit,

Patrick, Olajuwon in that box was just a different nigga. I put Kevin McHale right after Olajuwon. What was that move, though? That move, did you see the move that Joker put on? Oh, no, no. The reason I like that move, you're absolutely right. It was incredible because a lot of times, people accuse the Joker of not having footwork

and just being big and gaudy paws and just getting in there, you know, just a big old galoot, so to speak. And that was footwork. That was really footwork. Yeah, he put them in a blender on the box. He used our ice capades on the box. Put them in the ice capades,

man. So, it was really good, but when it comes to defensive player of the year and ad complained about it they gonna see what you get do against the joker and it's not getting the job done so he was on he was he was in front of the basket by the end of the move he was behind the joker so that's that's crazy right there crazy footwork it's kind of hard to vouch for him when we're seeing what's happening on the TV. So, sorry, y'all.

Then they hit the shot over him. He falls in. Yeah, it was a lot. Denver bench. It's not giving Defensive Player of the Year. It's just not.

It's giving super disrespectful. And then secondly, no disrespect, but like, yo, who's out to get you? Like, nigga, like, yo, they just don't like me. Who, nigga?

Nobody's against you. Yo, bro, what you talking about? I dig it. They not feeling me and they never, they're not looking. Yo, bro, niggas is looking. Pause. Nobody's after you. I hate when niggas act like it's a witch hunt after just them.

It's a conspiracy. It's Illuminati. Yeah, like, yo, my nigga. Every time a nigga win, it's Illuminati. Yeah, like, yo, my nigga, nobody has a personal gripe against you. You lose to the Joker in Denver every time. This is not personal. Niggas, a lot of people I know do that.

They always find somebody to blame for their mistakes instead of taking accountability and saying, yo, know what? I don't even want defensive play until I do what I got to do against this nigga. Yeah. Because that's what they want to do. That would be the right mindset. Yeah, you know what? I don't even want defensive play until I do what I got to do against this league. Yeah. Because that's what they want to do. That would be the right mindset. Yeah, you got to take accountability.

Good points. Okay, the Sixers lost their second game to the Knicks, 104 to 101. The Sixers plan to file a grievance with the NBA over the officiating across the first two games of the series. So one, what do you guys think about that? And then do you guys think that the Sixers have the capability to win the series. So one, what do you guys think about that? And then do you guys think that the Sixers have the capability to win the series?

Well, let me start by saying I'm ready to order my Nick Kiff jacket now. I'm officially ready to order my jacket. I don't care. It might be time. After I finished that game, I was proud of the Knicks. They were down, down late, and they didn't give up.

That says a lot about what they believe. And just when you beat a sixer team, that guy, and B's scoring in the 30s and Maxie's scoring, well, he had about 30 probably too. And then... He had 35. Huh? He had 35. Yeah, when you beat a team and they're scoring that great, it's not like they didn't play their best and you won.

And you figured it out. I like teams that figure it out. And this Knicks team is playing their heart out for Tom Thibodeau. I don't know what he told them or what they got going. And maybe just the Villanova pieces, because it seemed like it's all Villanova on the wings. So it's like, could you imagine playing with all the niggas you played with in college or, you know, in your teenage years in the NBA? That got to be crazy.

So it's like when they're playing together, they know each other. There's a special bond in their paws. They're able to just accomplish things that they wouldn't be able to do on their own. That's what I think. I think they're going to beat the Sixers. I know Cam said they're losing in seven, but I'm going to go with the Knicks. Well, it depends on the Knicks game, me personally. Well, it depends on the next game, me personally. I think that, congratulations to the Knicks,

of course. I'm from New York. I want the Knicks to win. I'm just not going to build my hopes up to let them down in the second game of the first round. Look, I got a video on my Instagram for two, three years ago when I was in the suite, jumping up and down, acting crazy, screaming at the top of my lungs,

and I'm not doing that no more. I'm not building. I'm not setting myself up for failure now. I'm cheering from afar. Like, let's get it done. But I've done business with the Knicks. You've done business with the Knicks. You go to the Garden.

Whenever we want to go to the Garden, it's just a lot of, you know, every year, every year, Tracy Morgan, Chris Rock, fucking whoever else is over there. Yeah, we're going to do it. And listen, I'm one of them, but I'm not going to keep doing that. What I will say, I'm not. I'm not going to subject myself to that. I'm fucking one foot in the ground. I'm not doing this and set myself up for failure, nigga.

I'm almost a half a ticket, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? But what I will say is this, is that the reason why this was, and we'll see, the reason why I said I want to see what happens the next game

is because to me, this was a great mental win for Philly, actually. Because you got Joel on a bum knee scoring 34 points. Tyrese Maxey had a cold. He was questionable to even play. He didn't come to shoot around or anything today, pardon me, last night, and he had 35 points. And to be honest, you were still up two points with 20 seconds left. I don't know what it's about if they didn't call timeout or the ref didn't see them call timeout or anything else. But they didn't get the timeout.

The Knicks scored. They were down two. Under the basket with under 30 seconds left, they're trying to get the ball in bounds. And if you would call a timeout if you're the Sixers, you would get the ball advances to half court. You don't lose the ball right underneath your own basket, the Knicks basket.

That's high school. Right. And then, you know, that's young life. Hey, let's go get it. You're a professional. You're supposed to know better than that. Yeah, you know, that's young life. Yeah, let's go get it. You're a professional. You're supposed to know better than that. Yeah, you call timeout. So that way, even if you don't get the shot,

the Knicks have to advance the ball back down court. I mean, not advance the ball, take the ball back down court after they, if Philly were to miss. So first of all, you don't call timeout. You're stressing for a foul that you don't get. The Knicks miss the first three. You don't secure a defensive rebound, so they get a second chance to shoot another three.

Yeah, niggas falling with the ball and all that. Yeah, so to me, and I know they're complaining that they still don't call timeout, but they didn't get it. That's really on the coach. You have to walk up to the referee and say, I said timeout. Not screaming, not anything. Walk up to the sideline referee and say timeout. That's what I really believe is that.

Not saying the Knicks didn't win this game, but to me, Philly gave it away more. But I would say this. If Joel Embiid gains more confidence because he looked really confident compared to how he looked in game one, this could be a problem. This could really be a problem. And to be honest with you, I know we've really been pumping that. Jalen Rose, pardon me, Jalen Rose, Jalen Brunson has been the best player, not just as a guard, but probably the best player in the East Coast over the last two to three months, minimum. But it looked like Tyrese Maxey got something to say about that.

Because Jalen Brunson, he's, don't even know he's scoring 22, 24, he's getting his points, but he hasn't been playing good. And that's also a great sign for the Knicks, that you're still pulling these games off with Jalen Brunson not playing good. But it look like Tyrese Maxey saying, I don't know what all this Jalen Brunson shit is about. I think I'm the best guard on the East Coast. And so far, he's been outplaying Jalen Brunson,

even though the Knicks have been winning. But I will say this about the 76ers last before, and this be my last statement, I don't know if Mace has something else to say. There's no reason in the world

that Kyle Lowry should be the third best player on the floor. It's for the 76ers. There's no reason at 38 years old. There's no reason

he should be the third best player in the world. Who else is on that team? Tobias Harris. Yeah. The light-skinned nigga that took James Hart and Shorty.

Yeah, I know who you're talking about. The light-eyed. Kelly Oubre. Buddy Hill. Yeah. Why is Kyle Lowry doing better than all y'all?

Look, Tobias Harris. Yeah, what happened to Buddy Hill? He had two points in 16 minutes. Look, the thing about it is this. I don't know who fumbled the ball in Philly, and I don't remember.

I will have to do some homework on it. This is just off the top of my head, pause, just remembering. Yeah. What the fuck happened that y'all didn't re-sign Jimmy Butler when he was there for that half a season? Why did y'all... What was-sign Jimmy Butler when he was there for that half a season? Why did y'all,

what was the Tobias Harris, Jimmy Butler, seesaw, pause thing? They went with Tobias. And that's what I'm asking right now. Why? Why? Doc. Why would you go with Tobias Harris?

That was Doc Rivers' call. Tobias Harris. Now you got to think about this. A lot of people don't remember, because like I said, niggas don't remember last night. They were a bounce around the rim, Kawhi Leonard shot away from the championship

when they played Toronto. They took him seven games, and Kawhi Leonard made an incredible shot to send Philly home. Why would you not keep that team together? Then you got Tobias Harris. And people like

Tobias Harris piss me off. And he could be one of the best people in the world. But when you're 6'7", 6'8", 6'9", however tall he is,

long arms, perfect paws, basketball body. And you're not, you're just out there. You got Tyrese Maxey going all fucking crazy, doing everything he could do in the book at 6'2". 6'8", niggas, just out there. Buddy Hill, just out there.

Kelly Oubre, you look great in the regular season. Now you just fucking missing. If this doesn't go right and they lose in the first round, whoever the GM is, outside of Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey, get rid of them niggas.

What I would start doing is looking down in Atlanta and one of them players I just named, possibly two, send them down to Atlanta and get Murray

up there with the 76ers. And you'll have a way better offense and maybe defense too because they're not getting the job done. Kelly Oubre, decent season, not showed up so far. Tobias Harris has been missing for years. He's just stealing money. And Buddy Hill, this isn't the Buddy Hill that I'm used to. So I would start looking to blow this team up

if they don't get out the first round. Yeah, and it wasn't Doc Ruiz. I forgot the guy's name. But he was the guy that put Ben Simmons at the point. I think it was that same guy. And then I was just going to add you're absolutely right because Tyrese Maxey

is outplaying Jalen Brunson. And the fact that nobody on the Sixers scored over 10 points to me is insane because, you know, they can't just rely on Embiid and Maxey. Other players are going to have to step it up. So, like you said, they're definitely going to have to start making changes to the team because that's not going to work. And if they want the chance to win, other players need to start stepping up. So, with that being said... Look, look, look. You got fucking Kyle Lowry scoring eight

and Kelly Oubre scoring four. Come on, man. Come on and listen. I'm not on that shit where Kyle Lowry can't play. He's good. Real good. He's a champion.

Tremendous, tremendous career in Toronto. They're really decent in Miami. Great guy. But come on, bro. Y'all putting a lot of pressure on niggas that's been around a long time and his younger legs,

paws that been around. I mean, it hasn't, have the mouths that Kyle Lowry has. Y'all not putting the effort in that he is. Yeah, when you got to give

40 points from your point, from the point guard position, that says a lot about your team. The team is extremely weak. If you got to get 40 points from the point guard position, especially if it's not Stephen Curry, let me put that there. Okay, so I want a definitive answer from the both of y'all. So MB said, we should be 2-0.

We're good. We're going to win this series. What do you guys think? Yes or no? Well, I'm not going to say yes or no. I'm going to say what... You just said the Knicks are going to win. Yeah, I'm saying, but for this point,

I'm going somewhere, Cam. My bad, my bad. I'm saying... You want to land a plane, my bad. Yeah, let me land my plane. Yeah, man. Yeah, my bad. I'm saying... You want to land a plane. My bad. Let me land my plane. Yeah, man. Yeah, my bad. Like, this is the same guy that told us,

trust the process. I can't trust it. If he's telling me they're going to win this series, I don't trust it. I'm actually going with the Knicks. I'm going with the Knicks. And I'm not even going with the Knicks in seven. I'm going with the Knicks. And I'm not even going with the Knicks in seven. I'm going with the Knicks in six.

I think. That's a bold statement. No, it is. It is. And you're jumping out the window a little bit more than me. Because I want to see the next game. I'll be honest with you. I really want to see how the next game is.

Because at the end of the day, let's be realistic. What I've seen tonight, pardon me, I's be realistic. What I've seen tonight, pardon me, I keep saying tonight, but what I've seen last night was this. In between game one and game two,

game one, I seen a scared Joel Embiid because his surgically repaired knee. And he said he was scared. Tonight, I seen,

pardon me, last night I seen a nigga say, fuck it, if the knee gonna give out, it's gonna give out, I gotta go. And that's night I seen a nigga say, fuck it, if the knee going to give out, it's going to give out, I got to go. And that's what I was talking about a few weeks ago. I said, run that nigga, pause, let him go out there.

Let him get out there and let's see what happens. And I like that mindset. Now, I'm totally in agreeance with Mase when he's saying, this is your franchise player, sit him down, you don't want him to fuck his knee up. We've been doing this for 10 joints. Pause, sitting him down and getting it together and him to fuck his knee up. We've been doing this for 10 joints. Of course, sitting him down and getting it together

and everything else. Look, I like his attitude. I like what he's saying. And let's see if his knee holds up throughout the series. That's what it's really about. But to have 34 points

on a bum knee and he's talking that talk, we'll see. Right now, I say this. Everything depends on the next game and the point difference because we still haven't seen Jalen Brunson have a breakout game yet, and they won both games.

That's my point because once he gets going, they're going to beat them even more decisively. And then who knows? Joel Embiid may end up in New York when it's all said and done. Joel Embiid and Brunson. You just like saying anything, I think, sometimes, man. Hey, I'm saying if they're going to blow the team up. No, I said outside of Maxie and then B.

Oh, okay. That was what I said. Yeah, you did say that. Yeah, I said outside of them two. But listen, man, congratulations to the Knicks and I'm happy. But I will say this before I finish my last statement

and Mace has something else to say. Everything could be going good. Everything could be going great. Y'all can make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. You can make it to the championship. You won't win until Spike Lee

gets off the sideline. It's just the way it is. It won't happen. It won't happen. It won't happen until y'all put him up in the skybox or you let him watch from home. Until Spike Lee gets off the sideline, the Knicks will never win. So I don't care how far you go,

it won't be a trophy until Spike Lee gets off the sideline. And I'm dead serious. So are you saying that if they move Spike Lee off of the sideline, they will win? They'll have a better chance. They'll have a better chance. I'm just clearing that up. Because somebody here may think you're saying

as soon as Spike Lee goes, they win. I would bet on that more than right now. Look, you know how annoying it is? Look, I go to the game. Look, I go to the game. First of all, it's a couple of things. When I watch from home, Spike Lee annoys me from home. Oh, come on, talking to niggas, yo, Spike.

You saw him and Tim Thomas after they won? Nah, I didn't see it. Yeah. Shout out to Tim Thomas. A lot of people don't know that Spike Lee almost cost the Knicks a playoff series when he was talking crazy to Scottie Pimping and these niggas. Then you talk crazy to Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller grabbed his dick in front of you

and your wife said, suck my dick, nigga. Scored eight points in like four seconds. Some wild shit. Because you talk. Then what happens is, you know,

it's pre-internet, pre-social media. Spike Lee's on the front of the paper. The nigga who, if we lose, it's because of him. People don't remember this.

Front of the newspaper. If we lose, it's because of this nigga right here. I think that's when I left the Knicks. For good. I think that was his thing. When Reggie got the steal, that was it. The three came back and another three.

I said, oh, no. That's what the nigga does is because he has so much ego, he goes to the next game in Indiana. Yeah, and the Knicks pull it off by the skin of their teeth. He and they hugging John Starks and these niggas, they all excited. Look, my nigga, you are a distraction. If I play for the Knicks, I will not speak to you. You are annoying. Don't tell me what to do.

Why would you be telling? Get over there. No, Spike. I'm not listening to you, bro. This is like when they let the rappers coach the basketball team. Yeah, yeah.

And you got to think about it, Murda, like, yo. When you think about it, like, before I get to that, that's what the point I was going to get to before. Spike is very animated on the side of everything. You go to the garden, he won't speak to that. That's what the point I was going to get to before. Spike is very animated on the side and everything. You go to the garden, of course, he won't speak to you. Yo, Spike,

what's up? And keep walking. Yo, my nigga, you're rude. You're rude, Spike. And listen, whatever. You're rude. You don't speak to people in the garden. Then you get an attitude. Spike don't speak to nobody? I'll give you one of these brother man shit like... Why haven't they do the right thing? That's the problem. You know, Spike Lee... You want to know my problem with Spike Lee real quick?

Yeah, yeah, because it sounds personal. It ain't personal because, you know, I see him in the garden when I go. He don't really speak to niggas. I don't like niggas who hate on other niggas hustle too. This has nothing to do with basketball. Now look, some people may agree with what I'm about to say, but to me it don't matter.

Now, Spike Lee hates on Tyler Perry all the time. Talks about, yo, that ain't real effort in the movies. He ain't putting no real love into it and getting the storyline right. He's cheating the system. And you hate on a nigga who was homeless in 2007 to becoming a billionaire until he got to exit off the highway, got his own studio. Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, all these black people come to his studio to use his shit when this man was homeless in 2006, 7. So Spike Lee always hates on him like, yo, his movies ain't all that. And this down to third.

You got to put the love into it. You know what I'm saying? Get the dive in the script. Look, Spike, some people like their food cooked in an oven. Some niggas take it in a microwave. Pause. If niggas want a quick microwave movie, fine. They got full.

Niggas don't always want to wait for Thanksgiving and the yams to get done. And the macaroni. And the neck bones. Yeah, I already ate, man. I've been starving all day, Spike, for you trying to get this done. So I don't like that

because however it works for you, it works for you. Whatever it takes for you to get your bag, get your bag, and Spike has a lot of hate. Not just that. I was just using that for an example. He's like a grumpy old man. You know what I'm thinking? I compare Spike and Tyler Perry to like

Jesse and Obama. Jesse Jackson? Yeah, where you feel like you did all the groundwork. Yeah. But another nigga got all the light from it. Yeah, well, listen,

Spike ain't broke. I know, but you know, it's the same way. It's like he took it to another level. Yeah, absolutely. The level we wanted to take it to.

Yeah, absolutely. And look, it's a great comparison because it's kind of the same errors as well, also. But, you know, you can't get mad up because whatever you came in. It's like, it's like sin.

I know we bring sin up about four or five times a week on this show, but sin told me one day, I should have been born when Nicky Barnes and them was born, I should have been born with Nicky Barnes and I was born, I should be dead by now. Can't fuck with this, I should have been born

with Frank Matthews and these niggas. I shouldn't even be here. I said, you be dead. He said, yeah, I know. But that's what I was supposed to have been in. You can't get mad at wherever you grow up in. You got to take advantage of what's going on during the time that you're here.

Right now, we can sit here, and you know how much I can complain and be like, man, I had social media when I first started rapping, boy. Shit be crazy, nigga. No, I'm not complaining, nigga. I'm going to figure out what I can do. How I can manipulate all these different tools that's available now and use them to my advantage to where I can benefit from it

instead of complaining about it. You know, every generation can complain. You got niggas now, oh, there ain't no good music out, man. These young niggas, da, da, da, da. Let them niggas be 19, 20, 21, 23, 25, 27. When we was 19, our mothers and fathers was like, what is that rap shit? I could barely

understand what they saying. Da-da-da. And I'm pretty sure they mother said, what is this rock and roll shit that y'all listening to? Like, it always goes like that. But we, we're at the age... Yeah, they was telling us boys to pull our pants up. Yeah, yeah. They telling them don't wear girl stuff.

Right, exactly. So my point being is we're at the age to where we grew up and our parents or grandparents or whoever, we had to face like, my nigga,

this ain't Andy Griffin, my nigga. Like, I don't want to watch this black and white, all this shit that they grew up on. And we should be the niggas not hating that. And I'm not saying let your kids run rampant and act stupid and not have no structure. That is true.

And not have no- We just hate it on the most. Yeah, and not have no structure in your life. You have to have structure. But when they have their extracurricular and the shit that they like, don't hate on the shit that they like because we was hating on the shit that we like.

You know what I'm saying? So even like when we be talking to Stata about shit, you know, we be fucking around, but you can't get mad because she likes what she likes and we may not know it and we may not know it, and she may not know it. It's about learning from both ages,

because, listen, me and Maze had a conversation. That was one of our biggest clips, and it was all facts, and it got shared a lot on social when we was talking about rotary phones and all the other shit and everything else and shit the niggas did to us.

That was, yo, you got to think of how barbaric that is. To put the lock on the zero, y'all don't get it because you don't, you wasn't there. Yo, it's wild. That's like y'all

trying to call 911. Yeah, like, yo, murder, hit me at 1030 later on. I can tell you something. If I can, if the lock ain't on. Like, yo,

this is what I'm trying to tell you. Like, so I don't like hating on people when it comes to extrac on. Like, yo, this is what I'm trying to tell you. Like, so I don't like hating on people when it comes to extracurricular because I'm just hating on. And I don't, you know,

so you got to accept. And like I said, especially with kids, now, I'm not saying let them niggas go wild with their imagination. But if it makes a little bit of sense,

even if it makes a little bit of sense, even if it makes a little bit of sense, look into it and help them out and help them pursue their dreams if it makes a little bit of sense.

If it don't make sense to you, you'll be like, I'll go figure it out. Let me see. And after a while, you'll be like, no, this shit ain't working. Nigga,

you got to realize, imagine us telling our parents we can be rappers. Mase told his mother, God bless her dad, he was going to be a rapper. Yo, shit went left, my nigga. Shit went all the way left, my nigga. You want to throw your life away? Go ahead.

Mase was pouting in the hallway. You want me to sign the paperwork? Yo, it went left. It went left because the thing is, it was like, that shit was so far-fetched. I remember telling my grandmother, I'm going to do music. She said, well, you ain't going to be like Babyface, is you? Nah, y'all don't see what's about to, what's going on. You going to win them awards like Babyface?

Yo. Awards like baby face. Nah, grandma. This ain't no baby face shit right here. Uncles and all. Y'all gonna be down there sniffing that cocaine in the studio. God, if that's what you want to do. If that's what you want to do.

We don't have the sniff cocaine. God, if that's what you want to do, if you want to sniff cocaine and make that music, just send me a power. She told me about the paperwork. I can't do it. You can't do it.

What do you mean you can't do it? Because you got to, you know, this is before you got this big deal, pause. You know, you're under 18, you got to get a parent to sign for you and all that. She ain't going to do it. And it's good she didn't do it because it ended up turning out to be something bigger and better. But the initial shit, no sir. I was thinking, I was like, maybe I could say something. I see you look on her face, I say, I was like Maybe I can say something I see you look on his face

I say I'll see you tomorrow I'm leaving And you better not Even say nothing So I don't like When people hate On other people's come ups So that's a little bit

Of my problem with Spike Lee Outside of him Just being a jinx To the Knicks The more you know Well we're going to go to break When we return We will discuss

The Magic vs versus the Cavs. Maybe I'm a home problem, babe. She's tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall, oh, oh. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about it. She wanna be free. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Suns will play the Timberwolves.

Underdog Fantasy has Kevin Durant at five and a half first quarter points. Do you want him higher or lower at mace? Higher. Higher. They got to stop playing with Kevin Durant now. Kevin Durant better stop letting niggas play with him. Yeah, for real, KD. KD, listen.

Come on, KD. KD, listen. As a man. Five points in the first quarter, KD. ND, listen, as your man. Five points in the first quarter, KD. Niggas is playing with your name. Yeah, we not going to keep smiling everything off, KD. You know. It's that shit, nigga.

You know, KD got dipset tattooed on him. Nigga, let's get to work, nigga. Let's get to work. Okay. Devin Booker's at 24 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? He's another one. You better get to work.

You better get to work. You better get to work. Higher. Higher. Yeah, you got your signature sneaker on book. Let's go, man. It looked like that before you... I'll say something before you get to the last... After you get to the last...

No, after the last step. And then Anthony Edwards is at 36 and a half points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Points, rebounds, and assists? 36? I'm going higher. Ant-Man is playing like,

you know, he's giving us Jordan vibes, man. He's doing whatever he want to do out there. I'm going to go higher, too, and that's why we're higher for Book and KD, because Ant-Man

looked like he wanted. You know, even so hired to answer your question for underdog Code Cam if you're smart. Listen, I watched SGA and I watched Ant-Man

game ones and I was like okay, these are the two prospects coming, potential next superstars. And actually, yeah, he look decent. He look good, but he's a smooth nigga. He's like one of these smooth, you know, look like, he like murder.

Just do rag when it's no, when it's, make sure his braids is tight. Every time no cameras on, just everything's perfect. Dress right. Ant-Man look like, listen, I got to, it's my, just everything's perfect, dressed right. Ant-Man looked like, listen, I got to, it's my league, it's my turn.

So when I looked at both of them, they both had decent games, but Ant-Man's shit was a little better. And SGA had a decent game too. But Ant-Man looked like he won it. He said it's going to be his league in two years, Murda,

what you think? That's what he said, out of his mouth. I think in one more year, it'd be his league in two years, Murda. What you think? That's what he said out of his mouth. I think in one more year, it'd be his league. I think he really, he's really, he really understands. Yeah, I think he really, he's in that position where, where like as a shooting guard, you know, a shooting guard got more, got more ability to take over a game

than a center. Like, you got to wait till somebody give it to you. But you can still be dominant, pause. But when it comes to, like, that shooting guard, you can really get the ball from end to end and do whatever you need to do. So I see, like, in a year, 2025, he going to really come into it, like, pause that. Nobody could do nothing with me because that's what he's doing right

now. But I think it becomes more evident next year. What do you think is going on with Booker this year? We haven't talked about him a lot. He hasn't been seen a lot the prior two years it was all this. He's the next

Kobe Bryant. He has Kobe Bryant mentality. Yada, yada, yada, so on and so forth. What is going on that he's not getting the shine or not looking the way he has been looking the last two years? What do you think it is? I think right now they're trying to take the ball out of his hands. When they first was last year, he was more like the point guard. I think right now they're trying to work in different people and different schemes. And it's a whole different coach. When it was, what's his name, that went to Monty Williams, it was Book's team. And then when KD came, KD was a part of that team, but it still felt like a little bit, it was Book's team. And then when KD came, KD was a part of that team, but it still felt like a little bit,

it was Book's team. Now it doesn't feel like that. It's almost like they're trying to change the culture and the culture is regressing instead of progressing. It's getting worse. Well, now let's discuss the Magic versus the Cavs. The Magic lost again, 96 to 86. Do you guys think the Magic has what it takes to win game three? No, and I take my words back when it come to Cleveland. My goodness, pause. That nigga Donovan Mitchell did a move and dunk and went to dunk. And I was like, yo, he's really not playing with the magic.

I don't know who's on that team that thought they was guarding him, but he's looking like he does what he want. I really like that team of Cleveland. Now that I've actually sat down and watched them, they're my type of team. Man, Charow, yeah. Ben Cherow this, Ben Cherow that. Big Five, Orlando, Florida.

Big Five, yeah, you're right. He was Ben Cherow all year. All year, Ben Cherow this, Ben Cherow that. Now, Cleveland is your type of team. Wow. To be fair, though, Paulo is still doing his thing. He just can't carry the team himself.

You the one who told me, Killer, that it changed from week to week. You're right. You're right. When I looked at Cleveland team, it reminded me a lot of our team growing up. Like you got,

you got guards that get busy and then you got these, these post guys that just do their job. They're a very blue-collar team. And very much under the radar because Donovan Mitchell missed a bunch of games. It isn't like they have a bunch of other superstars, even all-stars on the team. So, to me, they did really well when Donovan Mitchell was out, held on,

and they're pretty much under the radar. You talk about everybody in the East. You sit there and talk about Boston. You sit there and talk about Philly, New York, Milwaukee. And Cleveland been in that little mix the whole time. Even talked about Orlando more than we talked about Cleveland. Yeah. Because how young they were and up and coming out as superstars.

And Cleveland the whole time to me was like, good, good. Nobody's paying us no attention. Good. And they never really slipped out of playoff contention.

Yeah, I could see that Cleveland team that I saw yesterday. If they play like that, they could pretty much play with anybody who's in the East. Now, I'm not going to give them Boston, but anybody else, they could win.

We'll see what happens in their next game. And then Michael Porter Jr. had former porn star Lana Rhodes on his podcast called Curious Mike, where she shared stories of NBA players and weird fetishes they have, such as ordering cookies with poop in it. Michael Porter Jr. then confirmed the rumors and said, a lot of guys in the league have done so much stuff with so many pretty girls. Now they're over there messing with trannies or now they're messing with dudes. So Mesa's face, thoughts on their conversation and the insight they both shared during that sit-down interview. Michael Porter is saying a lot.

What is cookies with poop? I don't, because I don't know how to respond to that. What do you mean by cookies with poop? I've never heard of that. It's somebody's fetish out there. Somebody in the league. Eating a physical cookie. I don't know what they do with it. She just never heard of that. It's somebody's fetish out there. Somebody in the league. Eating a physical cookie. I don't know what they do with it.

She just said that that was involved. She's crazy, right? I don't know. Chocolate-ish. I don't know what they do with it. That was involved. Chocolate-ish.

That's crazy. Chocolate-ish. Yo, and to say somebody is actually doing this, you know, because if they brought it up, somebody is actually doing it. What would you do if you found out some of your favorite players, Cam, eat cookies with poop?

Would he still be your favorite player? Bro, You know, I have a nigga start walking funny, I'll stop fucking with him. It don't take a lot for me. That's why. It don't take a lot for me to start speaking to niggas

or stop fucking with niggas. If you wear, you got your shoes tied wrong and I don't fuck with you no more. Your lace is not lace, right? So that's, you know, you just asking me

to get a response out of me. Nigga, you already know. Yeah. He said cookies with poop. And then she talks about water sports like they want to be urinated on. That's sad. I can't even talk about it. I ain't mad.

All right. So first of all, a few things. This is Michael Porter Jr. from Denver, right? Yes. What's up with your brother, nigga? Let's start there. You worrying about pooping the cookies. What are you going to do with the family?

Your brother's gambling. He's out the league. I know my mama love is upset. Stick in the family. Look, you got to live your life too, so I'm not even mad about it. We want to know what's going on with your brother. Is he going overseas?

Is he going to work for you? Is he going to be somebody for the league that says you shouldn't do this? I'm more interested in what's next for that nigga because he was still under a rookie contract. He's super duper young. Secondly, back to the topic. I don't know who wants poop in their cookies.

You ask me what I cut them off? Yes, I would. I would absolutely cut you off if you eat poop with cookies. Cookies and poop, whatever. I didn't say they were eating it. We don't know what they were doing. Whatever it is. If you're interested in it,

I'm out. Look, Biggie got a line on his, a skit on his album, Biggie Smalls. And he said, you know the bitch asked me to shit on her, right? So after I shit on her.

So I asked my man, Jacob York. Jacob York, who worked with Biggie for years. He said, that's a true story. Yeah, that'sgie for years. He said, that's a true story. Yeah, that's a true story. It's a true story. He said, yeah, the bitch wanted to beg the shit on him.

And he did. And I said. That was a tall nigga. So the poop on cookies. I'm not saying shit ain't out there like that. Look, I had one man ask me to urinate on him. And I did. But to eat poop. there like that. Look, I had women ask me to urinate on them. Yeah, I had. And I did.

But to eat poop. And I did. Yeah, it's different. Look, if you want to get pissed on, that's on you. I pissed on a few bitches. A few different times. That's what they wanted. That was in they house.

How do you look at that the next day? I ain't spend the night, nigga. It's the they wanted. That was in they house. How do you look at her the next day? I ain't spend the night, nigga. What you talking about? It's the next day. When she call you, what do you do? Me? Me personally? Yeah.

Yeah, look, man. Yeah. Yeah, look, man. Treat them like you mean them. Murder? Look, I don't know. I don't know why you be forgetting your own work. Look. Tell you one time,

bitch asked me to pee on her. Pee right in her face, right where she was born and whatever. I seen her next time. Next time she came to my crib, she was in my kitchen cooking. Walk right over and peed on her while she was cooking.

She said, yo, why you do that? I said, I said, that's what you like. I thought you wanted to get pissed on. It was random. Nah, when we doing it, I like to get peed on. I said, I didn't know when you liked it. I just, I just thought you liked it at any given time. Now,

I don't do that when I'm cooking. I said, all right, you know, I don't know the Belgians. Yo, listen,

this is worth everything I love, man. This is worth everything I love. Walk right on her and piss on her while she's cooking.

Had an attitude like she didn't ask me to pee on her previously. Um, whatever. So, people into their own shit. Don't pee on me.

And do not send me no shitty cookies or nothing. Now. Now. I can't breathe. Now. Now, what I will say is this, Murda. I've been squirted on when I'm having sex. And a lot of people will sit there and say,

Kim, that's just piss. Look, I know what grown women piss smell like. It's not all piss. That's just clear water. It's pure. Now, if a bitch squirting is pissing, then I'm going to have an attitude. Now, you're pissing.

Know the difference between squirting and piss It's a difference I like a little squirt here and there Because it let me know I did something It makes me feel good Like yeah Fuck this bitch Squirt a bitch at the ceiling Last thing I'll say about this topic

Is that I seen a comedian last thing I'll say about this topic is that I seen a comedian I seen a comedian one time cause they said something that you said Michael Porter Jr. said they had so many women

and now they fucking with trainees and men and so on and so forth I seen a comedian said this say this and I don't even remember

but I remember the line cause I was like yeah I'm with that nigga he said he was just getting to Hollywood and he was trying to be a breakthrough in his acting career

and I don't even remember this comedian he was just really funny and he said you know you get to Hollywood you meet all these big time movie stars and so on and so forth

and they say they fuck so many bitches, it's no more bitches to fuck that they just start fucking with niggas. So the comedian was like, look, could somebody tell me what number that is so I can stop about seven bitches short before I want to fuck a nigga?

So let's say after 2,000 bitches, you want to go fuck... I'm going to fuck niggas. I fucked all the bitches in Hollywood. He said, I'm stopping in 1993 before y'all even confused me with that, which I thought was hilarious. But I don't understand how you have

so many chicks that now you say I'm going to try something different. There's too many women in the world for me. And I'm not knocking, y'all, do your thing. I'm not in a bad room with you. That's just not my preference. No piss on me, no shitty cookies and different gender for my preference. Michael Porter Jr., what I'm more concerned about is why why do you know this? And who do you be with to know this? Who's telling you this? Where's your source of information coming from? Are you in a room and just acting like it's,

you know how somebody talk about they self and blame it on somebody else? Like, yo, you know I got a friend, right? And they in trouble. Are you talking about yourself? I'm not going to put that on you, but me and Mason, we've been around industry

and sports and all this so long. We don't know them circles. At least, I don't know them circles. Yeah, I don't know the circles. So for you to know the circle, it's kind of wild. I will just add, I'm actually totally not shocked.

The conversation. You got to watch his words. You got to watch his words. They make a lot of money. I will just add, I'm actually totally not shocked. The conversation. You got to watch his words. You got to watch his words. They make a lot of money. Sound like an NBA freak off. Well, he didn't say any names. He didn't, you know, preface any teams.

It was very vague, but you wouldn't be able to tell who he was talking about. But these are very open conversations within the league, especially being like a woman i hear and i hear a lot of things which i'm not shocked what do you hear a lot of things so i'm not shocked there's a lot going on lambo stats saying yo your honor is what it is what do you hear no there's a lot of things be happening basically what he has is saying like he doesn't have to be in that circle because that is just things that happen. Yeah, but who's saying it? Who's saying it?

Because we didn't hear it. It's got to be said. Things happen and it's like, you know what's going on. And see, that's another thing. See for me personally, that's why I don't be jacking a lot of shit. Because it's always, and I'm not talking about you, Shay. Even him, like, you ain't going to pinpoint niggas out

or give us a round about what you're talking about. I can't jack it. It's just, it's invisible clickbait. Yeah. Yeah, like, yo, you know niggas like

shitty cookies, right? Yo, who, man? Like, yo, is this clickbait? Because who likes the shitty cookies? Give us a hint. Yeah, niggas want to know

who like the poop in their cookies. Yeah. And then Stack cosigns it and nobody's giving no backstory. Yeah, you can't be drinking Gatorade

behind niggas to eat. Yeah. I mean, you shouldn't be drinking Gatorade anyway behind niggas, but definitely. Yeah, don't pass me no blunt, nigga.

Yo, you eat shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I like blunt, nigga. You eat shit. You know what I'm saying? That's why when we be talking about certain shit, I'm like, I'm not going to put, not this conversation. I'm like, I'm not going to put that on him. I'm not going to put this on him. I'm not going to do that. Because once you go and mock him,

I don't fuck with you, box, there's no opening it for people to come back outside of it. Because I'm going to do all the due diligence before I put you in that box, pause. Because once you're in there, you're in there. So I'm not going to do that

until I get all the facts. But I can't go with the surround the industry and this. Yeah, what an industry. Yeah, so. If you don't want to say I ain't jacking it

until some proof come out now. If we hear about it later. We can't go with that. Okay. Well, that is all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.