IT IS WHAT IT IS - SPURS PACKED UP THEM WHITE BOYS IN LA, NBA CUP PREVIEW & NAH THEY DID CP3 WRONG!

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

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What up, boy? How are you? You all right? Yeah, I'm good, man. Stad, how are you doing? I'm great. Thanks for asking. Yeah. Who y'all got in there? God in the building. Shamm Larry here. Shamm got popped up on us. You know, he here for the cup. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying Shams said this.

I'm saying this Nico fucked up You know When you know Shams stay out here in Vegas You know what I'm saying When Shem is a part of shit shit Go right

You know And he did not say this I'm saying this I'm just This is Cameron talking This Sham did not say None of this You see where Nico at

We don't know where he's at Actually fucking shit up down there man But good to have you in the building Shemp thanks for stopping by Nah Sam just stop by Some friendship

He ain't, you know, he was on some cool shit. Yeah, I just can't. Yeah, we ain't going to have you chime in too much. We know you're here on official business for the cup, man. But you're always welcome to chime in if you want. Oh, no, I appreciate it. You know, just have to come see my brothers. Yeah, sin.

Yeah, sin. Yeah. Yeah, sin. Yeah, the God is in the building, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to see what's going on, nigga. Yeah. Larry was talking about getting sent tickets

to come out here for the shit, man. What's going on? You're going to bring sin out? I just said I was getting... I said, I got a plug for him to fly out here. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was fucking laughing. Yeah, you flew sin out.

Yeah, yeah, no, I got a plug for him to fly out here, but he ain't, he ain't gonna make it, you know what I'm saying? No, I was just being, I was just being more like, yeah, coaching, my nigga, coaching, you know, I can't Wait, sin is a real, real annoyance to me. Six days out of seven out the week when it comes to the next, man. Consistent, but he's a super fan. He will ride that ship till it falls. It falls every year. So none of us are old enough to see the Knicks winning championship.

And as much as I would like to see it one day, I'm just not going to put my emotions into it. I'm not. It's been let down too many times. I remember Lewis Orr playing for the Knicks. That's how far I go back. Lewis Orr, nigga. Man, Louis-Aul coached me in Providence. Yeah, see, Trent Tucker.

That's what I'm talking about. This is the shit we had to deal with. Niggins don't even know the names of the same. I like the bomb squad. Yeah. That was my last Nick team with Strickland and all that. Yeah, enough was enough after that, man. So we got a super basketball-heavy show today, guys.

So it should be a lot of fun. The Lakers are eliminated from the NBA Cup after losing to the Wembe-less Spurs 132 to 119. So, Mace, after seeing that game, how does that kind of loss happen with the roster that the Lakers have? Oh, man, it's just a, it's a testament to just where the NBA is, right? So a lot of times we think because people can still play the X's and O's, we take for granted. at these new young guys that are coming up and the power of the youth, right? So you got Castle there and you got several other guys, even like Harper and them, that people, they haven't made it to superstar status yet, but they're making their way up.

And they're just not going for it. You know, they're back to where we used to play. You're not letting a white boy go crazy on you. And the white boy at God can't beat us, man. It doesn't matter who it was. It's like, come on, y'all got sham in the building. Imagine the white boy picking you up full court. You're like, yo, they're trying to play you right now.

You got to get 80 right now. It don't matter if they don't got wimby. I think they overestimated the white boys. And they got to pay for that on defense, you know? I like that take me. I don't usually like a lot of shit you say. I usually don't. But that's a lot of shit.

fact, and I think it's a little different because I'm not going to consider Luca a full-time white boy like Austin Reed. Yeah, I'm saying Luca white boy on defense. On defense he's the white boy. I agree with you because to me, growing up, and like I said, I never got as far as

as sham or NBA anything, but it's wild disrespectful putting a white boy on me. That's how I used to look at that shit like, yo, y'all be just y'all be a wild disrespectful. That's what I said. agree with you, but I remember playing and I felt mad disrespect.

Look, Larry Bird said he felt disrespected when he put a white boy on him, and Larry Bird is white. So I felt that take where you came from. Look, if Larry Bird is saying, yo, y'all valet and putting a white boy on me, how a black nigga feel.

Yeah, remember Larry, Larry had a problem with certain black niggas garden him. He said, you're stressed up against Nick on me. Dennis Rodman and Dennis Robbin was a great defender

even though he was young when he got there but I seen a bunch of I seen Derek Fisher say that before it's wild disrespectful when the white niggas guarding me

and I know they excelled a little bit over the years but not if you black you still have to have that same mentality so Mace don't overdo it I said I agree with you

let's leave it at that I already said we're starting off good all right Yeah, you know how all of them are you going to go too far. That's what he's going to do. Yeah, but listen, man, I think the Aaron Fox, he's back fully healthy. You brought up Castle.

And the Spurs are really looking really good. And like you said, Wembe List, like, well, Statt mentioned it, Wembele's team. And we have to keep in mind, just with Wimby's injuries, over since he started in the NBA, we don't know what we're going to get with him because it's not necessarily, you know, right now it's calf injury,

but always calf injuries somehow turn into Achilles injuries. When he'd be like, yo, it's the calf, it's the calf, then all of a sudden it's the Achilles. And when you're that tall, for some reason, it's always something. Last year it wasn't even necessarily basketball injury. You end up having blood clots. So I think they're going to have to learn

to play without Wembe as, well anyway, but I think they're doing a great job. I think they're 8 and 3 without Wimby playing so far. So they're going to be all right with or without Wemby, but we think what you think when Wembe is available, it's going to be crazy, but you have to think in mind, me personally, I'm a Spurs Fitt.

I'm already calculating 35-miss games from Wembe. Just me personally. I hope it's not that, but that's just my calculation. We can't expect a healthy Wembe all the time. It's awkward. 7-4 handle he's not a regular person you know um we sit this with y'all ma'amay a lot of injuries when you're that tall so i'm hoping it's good when it comes to the lakers i don't know man um

i just don't know makes you brought up another good point sometimes the youth not caring what the older people are done and not saying that austin rees or lucca is old you know and i see lebrun and also playing a third fiddle to these two guys, which I think he wanted to play anyway. I'm not saying third, but he was trying to give Anthony Davis the team for the last half of many years. Anthony Davis seemed like he didn't want to take the team.

I think LeBron is comfortable in the role he's playing, but I don't see the Lakers being a big threat in the West with this present roster. Chan, what do you think about the Lakers right now? For me, I think the Lakers is a good team. Any team Lakers are. they got a chance. Oh yeah, I forgot.

This favoritism shit going on. No, no, that's your man. That's your man, I forgot. No, no, I'm just saying. No, no, no. You raised them from a popper. I don't even know what I'm asking. No, no, any team, any team, any team El on, they got a chance.

I'm always going to say that. Like, he's one of those ones. So any team that he's on. So you really think that, because we're leaving out, because you're on the East Coast, we can talk about some West Coast shit. You really think that they have a chance to go to the Western Conference finals? Yeah. I just think they got a puncher's chance.

I mean, like, of course, you know, like you said, OKC, Spurs, they're great teams. They said a puncher's chance. But you got a puncher's chance. And that's what counts. Listen, if you don't share media trade, niggas, what you're talking about, man? But that's what counts. But you got those, when you got those ones, you know,

you got a puncher's chance. You know what I'm then? So it's like, you know, you just, you got it. It's four. Wait, Giller, what kind of puncher? Mike Tyson puncher? No, no, no, because you got to think, right? You got to think, right?

You got to think, like, even when I was in Dallas, right? We was the only team to beat OKC, but that's because we had Luca and Kai. So if you double Luca, you're swinging at the Kai. If you double Kai, you swing it to Luca. So, you know, people didn't think we was going to win no series against Minnesota or OKCC. Well, there ain't no Kai. share. No, no, no, but I'm just saying, like, right now you got, you know, you still got Bron and you still got Luca. I mean, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's all. That's all I'm

saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, you know, you got, you got a punch his chance, man, you know. What do you think about the spurs right now as well? I think the spurs is good. They're really good. I mean, you know, all the stuff they're doing without Wemby, of course, is a good thing, but I don't really put too much stuff in it like when Wimby's not there because, I mean, when the best player go out, most

of the time the team, other players step up and it's always going to be different when the best player is there. Because certain people that's doing more now will automatically do less. So then you've got to factor that in. Yeah, I hear

all of that, sham, but good enough to do what? Good enough. to go out first round. Oh, which one? Which one are you talking about? Which one are you talking about? Spurs, I believe he's talking about. Oh.

I don't know. It all depends on matchups. That's what's all coming down to. Because even like, if you look at our first year, when we went to the finals, like, you know, we wanted, like, people throw it like, oh, they're madly. Like, no, they're going to lose to OKC or Minnesota. But we wanted to play OKC in Minnesota. We liked those matches. It was like, we didn't want to play at that point.

we didn't want to play Denver. Right. Because we didn't have nobody match up with Joker at that point. You know what I'm saying? So the series, I mean, not saying we couldn't have won, but the series probably had been a little bit different. But we liked the matchup against O.K.C. in Minnesota, the year we went to the finals. You know what I'm really surprised about murder is Harrison Barnes, too.

Harrison Barnes averaged in 14 points. And he's been a journeyman, seems like, since he left Golden State, for him to be stepping in and playing a big role with the Spurs. So I was really shocking, man. So salute to Harrison Morris because, you know, a nigga like them would call him a fossil. Yeah, but like with HB, like, you know, me and HB work out every summer. The one thing about HB, HB is the most consistent, professional you will see.

You know what I'm saying? So, like, his regimen is the same every summer, you know what I'm saying? Even when he left Dallas, we would work out every summer. And his thing is always the same. He's one of the best people you would see in the league. So things like that normally happens for people like that, like especially towards the latter years of their career, they tend to show more because, you know,

if you take somebody that's consistently averaging 14 or 16 and you put them with two other people that could score 20 or 30 every night, then, of course, that 16 is going to be magnified more. Like, if you look years ago when we lost to Golden State, With Wiggins on there, when they went to finals. That 16 was a lot. Right. Because you had to deal with Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and Draymar.

So that 16 was, you could put that 16 to be like 25. Right. Because every night he was getting that, and every night you knew Steph was getting, but he was getting and Clay was getting when he was getting. Right. So when you're like the third and fourth option on a team with two great options, you know, we had that with PJ Washington.

Right. When he came to Dallas, you know. So like his 16th. or 18 in Charlotte didn't mean as much is it 16 and 18 meant in Dallas. Right. Let me ask you something now. I actually forgot that Harrison Barnes played with Dallas.

What was that like? What is that like when a player gets traded in the middle of the game? They traded Harrison Barnes in the middle of a gay murder. Do you remember this? It's your murder. What do you do? Yo, what the fuck? Was that Nico?

Was Nico down then when I have it? No, no, no, no. No, we're like... No, we're moving high. No, no, no. What people don't understand is like, you know what I'm saying? I know it's hard for people to understand the dynamics of it, but it's like, you know, I'm always even killed because, you know,

as we grow up, like, business is business and personal as personal. The problem is sometimes when you get so close to people, it's always personal for you, right? But, like, when you're in the space where you can have a friendship and deal with the business part, so even, like, you know, even like, because last time when I said spooky on here,

people were like, oh, man, you told about Nico. It wasn't about Nico. Like, that's what people don't understand. It was to the point where, when I say spooky, it was to the point where I didn't want to be a different person. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because of the stuff that happened.

Right. So I didn't want to go somewhere and be like, I got an attitude every day about, because, like you said, you'd be around people long enough. It's a sudden to happen to somebody that's close to you. You're like, man, this got happened to me, but then you're still there. So then you're coming in every day, like,

looking at people different. So I didn't want to be different. So it wasn't much more about them being spooky. Like, me and Nico texts. We text now, we talk. Like, me and Nico good. So I don't want people to think, like, oh, this happened because of this person.

Like, he did a business decision. And whether it's good right or wrong, that's up for people's opinion. And, you know, whatever happened to fall out behind it is to fall out behind it. But, like, me and him is good. And to answer your question, like, with HB, even then, because, like, me and him is so close even to this day. Like, he just texted me a few minutes ago because they're here, too. So, like, me and him is close. So, like, in the middle of the game, like you said, that experience is weird because, you know, it's the trade down.

And you hear stuff. So, you know, he's like, man, am I getting true? I'm going to get traded. And then nobody's saying nothing. And then in the middle of the game, you just hear the fans like, thank you, Harrison. And I'm like, and then my phone is just buzzing.

And I'm sitting on the bench behind him. And I'm just like, and because he's a friend, I'm like, don't overreact. You know, you just traded or whatever, whatever. And like I said, to his testimony, HB was like, nah, I want to finish the game. Right. You know, most people have been going crazy.

No, I'm not finishing, I'm not finishing the game. Sam, that shit sounded good. No, that's what I said. That's what I said. To his testimony, I know how weird to did it in Harlem. Yeah, no, what I'm saying is, you're right, even as an adult, even fuck Harlem. Yeah, yeah, right, call them shit.

I'm just talking about we're all adults and professionals and we're worldly niggas at this point. But I'd be damn if I'm a helper team I don't play for, win another game. Like, I'm just going to go at halftime. I'm not saying I'm going to wow out. I'm just saying like, I got to go because I don't play with you niggas and I might play against you niggins.

And why would I give you niggins and never win? I'm not saying I'm like crazy. I'm not a hundred percent way you got to be a professional. But I'd be damn if I'm out of a nigger winning another game. What you think, murder? Yeah, you got to come off the court because you're not going to get a loose ball. You're not going to put any extra effort out there. And everybody's looking at you crazy.

Like, you definitely ain't taking no charge. or nothing like that. Yeah, I'm out of head. But it wouldn't cross y'all's mind to, like, leave it on a good note. Like, that wouldn't even, you're just like, I'm out. There you go, Statt. Like, that's kind of how I'm thinking. Yeah, both y'all niggas is, you got that.

Like, this was my team. Let me leave it on a good note. Like, play it to the end of the game, just be a good sport about it. And then when it's time, I'm going to go, you're just like, I'm out. No, no, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, I don't want people to misconstrue what I'm saying. What I'm saying is this is I'm not going to wild out. I'm not going crazy. I'm gonna go give a nays file.

I see y'all niggas in the locker room, but I'm not helping the organization winning another game. I'm not saying I'm going to act crazy and nothing. And I wouldn't leave on a good note. I was good, thank you, General Raymond, thank you, Mark Cuban. Thank you everybody that's involved.

I appreciate my time here. But I am not helping niggas get another W in the W column. That's just me. Do it depend on where you going, though? Like, where you get traded to? Because if you go from Dallas to the Pelicans, For me, I'm taking one step over half court

and I'm joking. Are you shooting? I feel that too. I feel that. I feel that. I feel that. That was good. Your kids are where you're going.

Your kids got to switch schools. Your family got to move. You got wild stuff to do right now. You've got to be out of there. And just like when Sham and Cam just said, especially Sham, he was trying to be cool about it. But he said the same thing we would say, killer. He said he didn't want to come in there looking at people different.

So he felt the same emotions. He just not putting the eggs strong. But he's not going back over there like everything is good, you know? That's a fact. That's a fact. But you know, the regime has changed. The regime has changed. It's not the same regime.

So he's definitely weighing his options. Yeah. That's how he got to Orlando. At least you all are honest about how y'all feel. Okay. So we got a hot take from Rich Paul before we go back and revisit the Spurs. So on his show with Max Kellerman, he said, I personally don't think the Lakers are good enough to be contenders right now.

I don't think they have a number. enough to get to the Western Conference final. I don't think they really have enough to contend from that perspective right now. So we started discussing a little bit, but Mace, what would be your final answer? Do you agree with Rich Paul's take or do you disagree? I mean, that's a lot coming from Rich Paul. Normally, Rich Paul is trying to stay even kill on it. He may know that they are able, but he might like bring it down a little bit.

But I think on this take, he's actually telling the truth. I think about OKC. They can't be OKC. I don't care how much people think they get close enough LeBron and take over. I'm not believing that. I don't think they could be OKC. I don't think they could beat, who else?

I don't think they could beat the Minnesota Timberwolves. Those two teams, I don't think they could beat. And depending on which Denver team come to play, that's a 50-50 series. I don't think they go in the West, just can't. So I think he's spot on. I think unless LeBron have just another year where he plays like he's 35 all the way through, they just don't have enough firepower to do so.

I don't see Austin Reeves being Carrey, but I do see Luca going crazy. But I don't know if Luca alone will be enough, especially when you got light-skinned guards. You got white and a light skin guard I think they're still the same Maybe I'm from the era of shamming them And I haven't seen We step over light skin guards You can't beat us with a light skin guard

Um You did I agree with Mace I would throw Houston in the mix as well Oh yeah I forgot my team Oh yeah Oh yeah

She's a nigga, wow, man. I didn't say this. I don't know why Cam goes through this. He asks me who's my team. I tell his, niggins, sham. And he gets mad at me. I told him from the tip-all, pause that it's... Listen, I'm going with Houston out of the West.

I said this. What I'm saying is this. How you forget about Chetty? That's what I'm saying. I forget about my team. I'm trying to be objective. Sham is up there being objective. The objectiveness just started flowing.

Nah, look, right now, right now, surprisingly, the Lakers are in fourth, but, you know, Wemby's hurt. We don't know what we're going to get from him. And Minnesota, I'm not ready to commit to Minnesota. You know what I'm saying? It's streaky. It looked like at one time,

That year, actually, that they lost to Dallas the following year, that they'd be like, all right, that was the, you know, they're welcome to the, you know, welcome to the playoffs. They had a hard loss, you know, Anthony Edwards talking shit to KD, talking shit to everybody talking about he wanted to guard, Karee, you know, that's where the buck stopped. And to me, the buck stopped since then, you know, it's never came back, pause, and I think Denver's looking really good.

to where they want to get back to where they were at a few years ago. But the height alone of Houston, we know their fleet is hurt, but A-Men is 6-7. Everybody else is 6-11. Houston is a problem. OKC is one game away

for breaking the NBA record the best start ever. And so we had Denver, OKC, and Houston. But the Lakers are in four, surprisingly. But I don't think that four-spot is there is theirs if Wimby is available.

Back to the original question. Rich Paul. Rich, rich, rich. Welcome to fucking podcast, the nigger. I'm telling you know, I spoke to Rich and Max Kellerman a few weeks ago before they saw it this show. And we were just talking and kicking it and shit. Rich, you're going to be under the radar.

This is a kind of a thin line, right? Because you have Rich as an agent. And he's going to be honest about what he says. the time, my personal opinion, you know, from conversations when we just talk. But I don't know how this is going to work being an agent and a podcaster. This is an interesting situation. Not saying you can't do both, but now you're podcasting, but you may have players on the Lakers. I'm not saying he does.

I don't know what's in the stable right now, Phil. But you may have a player on the Lakers like, yo, if you think we're not going to get it, get me to fuck someone else. where you think they're going to get it at. I think this is an interesting space for Rich Paul, especially, and I'll see how it goes, but as far as I'm saying, Lakers having a shot,

I guess I'll tell you this, Rich, they got a puncher's chance. Yeah, I got to, but see, the thing is, no, no, the thing is, the thing is, the thing is, the reason why I say it is because you got to look at it like this, right? So people, people, people going, to the playoffs and championship

and they just think it's like about the team, right? But that's why you have first round, second round, you know, and then championship because you got to think about the matchups before that, right? So that's like, for instance, whoever goes to the finals, right?

I mean, on the West Coast. If OKC is playing San Antonio, that's a whole series. So if they go to Game 7, that's a whole series. If the other team before them, that's playing like Denver play whoever somebody less right and then golden state yeah golden state and Denver wins like 4-1 or whatever now the other team the other the the spurs and okay see

then slug it out now they got to come right back and play that series so that's what I mean by the puncher's chance about having it because like even the year we came back and beat phoenix When we went to the Western Carfinal, lost the Golden State. They played the tough Pelicans team, and they went to game seven, and I think that's when Chris heard his hamstring or whatever, and it slowed them down. But then the first two games we played them, they went up two-oh.

And then we came back and took the series. But they was beat up when they got to us, you know what I'm saying? Even though they went up to O'O, the first two games, we came back, and that's when we closed out in Phoenix. when Luca went crazy or whatever. But it's like those things happen. So you got to add those into the equation of when you're going to the championship.

You know, it's just like in high school. You know, it's all about who you playing, bro, to get to that thing. Yeah. Yo, Pam, you know what's crazy? I'm thinking about the Rich Paul situation as a podcaster. Does Rich get to say that niggas is trash? If he's the agent now, does he get to say that?

That's a real good question. Does he have to be biased because they're clutch sports? Or do he get to say, you know, this thing is declining? Can he answer that kind of question if it's his, you know, particular person on his roster? That's a good question. You absolutely can't say that. I can't tell you what Rich Paul is going to do. Why would you say somebody underneath your stable ain't shit?

that you're negotiating for. Even if they ain't shit, I'm not publicly saying they ain't shit if they're on my team. I'm not just doing that. Like, for instance, Rich Paul never told me this, right? But I'm just saying, for instance,

no, I'm just saying, like, it's not hard to tell. Rich Paul was representing Ben Simmons. Then he wasn't. Like, I don't think he just wants to have random niggas. I never had a convo with him,

but maybe that's a good question. I want to ask him, what happened with you and Ben Simmons? Why wasn't you representing him? I don't know what happened, but I don't think that he's going to have somebody on his roster, pardon me, on his stable as far as Clutch Sports is concerned, that he's going to admit ain't shit. Because there's still negotiation that's going on. Not only still negotiation, you're still probably eating off his contract.

You have to think about this. I don't know exactly how his payment system works or anything like that. But when you're sitting there, let's say somebody does, a $200 million deal and you get 5% right I don't know his percentage of what he gets every deal is probably different you don't get the 5%

all at once because you're not getting the 200 million at once and you still have to get paid and this person may get another contract just answer your question I'll write I'm just laying out different scenarios murder but to answer your question I wouldn't say me personally

that one of my players ain't shit even if they ain't shit because I still got to do business with them unless you're not ready to fuck with him no more. That's why I was saying this is real of interest in space because I don't know if the nigga has somebody on the Lakers and for you to say,

yo, Lakers are contenders and you're one of his clients. Yeah, he got Braun. Yeah, well, you know him and Braun to me is different. No, no, seriously, my opinion is this. I don't know this for a fact. Listen, and y'all can't... Everybody's compromised.

Everybody's compromised. You know what I'm saying is this. right? I believe my opinion is this. I do not know this for a fact. Braun like your thaw nigger, son. Oh my God. Yo, he brought him on. Brom put him in the position of me where he's at. Like, yo, you know, he's like, we all see the gifts, the watches and all that shit. They can be like, for his birthday, I'm talking about shit like that. We've seen Rich Paul negotiate a billion dollars and 30 minutes.

Braun the first nigga tweet. You see my nigga this at there. We know Rich Paul because of Braun. You know, I know Rich Paul from a sudden. different, but I'm just saying in general, he can be honest with Braun. They have that type of honesty to where he can be straight up. And I believe LeBron is some type of way behind clutch sports. I have no proof of this whatsoever of it because it'd be a conflict of interest. But let me tell you, let me make it even easier, right? Murder.

I'm a superstar NBA player. Yeah. You doing what you're doing. You selling jerseys or whatever. the street, yo, come to be my agent, man. Matter of fact, you know what, murder, start an agency company. Then you end up negotiating, you know, when I look, watch some more 60 minutes, he negotiated over $4 billion. Mm-hmm. No, murder, I do me something. Like, every he wants to know, wow. Every once in a while. Yo, you can't, you ain't got nothing for me.

yeah leave it on the dresser leave it leave it in the kid like you're going to throw I'm a hello like that's just my opinion I'm because I'm going to definitely ask you

for something once in a while shout out Rich Paul because like Ken said this is just yeah shout out speculation not even really speculation just conversation but yeah just going to make that clear

Okay, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will get into our predictions for the NBA Cup. Don't go anywhere. I'm just saying, hey, if you want to put the light on it. DJ, the dime life brand is serious. I love that shirt you got on. Like this and your bank account is that much? You say whatever the fucking want a second.

Rally around him with that, you know, the picture of the, his daughter's on the lap the LSU player. Will we have it as you can join us? Man, thank you for having me. Look, I tell you like this. Hey, boy. Okay, let me tell you like this. I got too much money to be fighting.

I ain't got that no more. And we've taken that song a long time and made it our anthem. Paul A. Jenkins. I even put your bullshit-ass book up here on my, you know what I mean? Welcome to start with the facts. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. On Saturday, the Knicks will play the magic for the NBA Cup.

Underdog has Jalen Brunson at 28 and a half points. Do you have them higher, lower mace? Oh, man, this is going to be good. I know Shiam is in the building. See how my brothers do me. Let me hear this. Oh, let me hear this. But the light skin I was going to have more than 28.

I'm going with magic because that's my brother. But, you know, I think Lykeson-Odivison is going to have more than 28. And he's another prodigy. He's another prodigy. I got to give that up. That's definitely fam. Who's gone? I'm Tyrus.

Sugs. I can't get over the game plan right now, but we're working. Point being is I don't think nobody can stop that at 28 points. I think that's 28 points is an overmurter. Sorry, I know sending is in the house clapping right now, man. I got to do it. I got a job to do. I think, I think, Nick, listen, man, this showtime, this showtime, and he's showing up.

You know. Josh. You go to the rack like Kareem Reid, you know? No, he don't do that. No, he's stupid.

That's what he don't do. I love Rine Rie. My nigga, but you're a little erratic. Yeah, got to stop. Yeah. I'm trying to throw Rima shot out. You do not go to the back.

That nigger is very mechanical, Jay Lambert. He's very mechanical. and he actually sometimes post up like it's very mechanical and the moves he do and the way he picks his spots

Ream just Yeah, yeah, silly. Okay. Just ream my nigga too though, shall ring, Reed? Josh Hart is at 12 and a half points Do you have him higher or lower? I'm gonna go lower.

I think he'll be more focused on defense and rebounds. I'm not going to give them 12 points, so I'll say lower. Mace? Yeah, I got to think the same. When it comes to Josh Hart, I don't see him like breaking out with a bunch of three. So in this game, he's definitely with Bang going to have to play some defense.

I know Bing is going to be on a tear. So he's going to be focused on defense. I'm going to go lower as well. Okay. And Apollo Ben Carroll's at 21 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower Mace? Well, I was the one introduced y'all to PB5, so who am I to not go with what I say? You know, how could I not stand on what I said, you know?

I normally see it before it happened. I got to go higher. I know Cam is over there making all of these different faces. Cam, I told you about PB5 when you didn't know who he was. That's a lot. Nick got the tape. Nick got the tape. You didn't know its name.

You just said, I don't, you just told niggins the other day, this is the first time you heard me. I apologize. All week, you just been lying for no reason. I don't know what it's about. This week, it's been a lot of people lying on me, man. It's everywhere. All week.

It's been people lying all week on me, man. I don't know. I don't know what's going on this week, man. Oh, my nigga's been lying on you. Oh, these niggas been lying on me, man. That's crazy. It's in the fifth floor water, you know?

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's wild. I'm going to agree with, I'm going to agree with Maste, though. Yeah, he's going to have high. If they want to win, he better have higher. Absolutely. So I think he's going to have higher.

I know one thing, no, man. And I've been seeing this online. A lot of niggas mad at Orlando in New York, man. And they felt that the nigger's bad at Orlando in New York, man. And they felt that the nigger. Wayne through the ball at OG and the shit was uncalled for and all that, man. They talk about it could have been a malice in the garden and all that tough a day. And I was like, yeah, they, they, a lot of New York Nick fans are still mad about that, man.

I think tagging me on the shit, talk about Kim, you need to say something. I said something. I said, look, I thought the nigga was out of bounds and he just was trying to hit it off the nigga out of bound. They said, nah, Cam, you know that shit might have been ugly. Listen, I said, I play ball in a different hour. I used to throw the ball and take it for it to be out of bounds, period. But this is giving New York fans energy about having, let's say,

edgy about this game that's coming up because of that situation. Yeah. I got another question. Why did a nigga name OG and he didn't do nothing? I think that's his initials, brother. My opinion. That's a good question, though. Okay, make sure y'all down on the underdog.

app and you can make your picks too so of course we need just a little bit more discussion regarding this game we need y'all's official predictions so mace who wins this the nix or the magic yeah and and shout out the OG that was just a joke but when it comes down to it i got to go with the crib cam keeps saying i'm from florida so i got to go with the crib you know you know you know from that part of Florida. You grew up in Schenectady, you from New York used to be in Schenectady? You're from New York used to be in Schenectady?

Tony, brook. Um, no. Guy, my bad, I didn't know you wasn't finished. Sorry about that. Now, go ahead. I'm sorry. I got to go in Florida. Everybody here from New York

at one point of time lived in Florida. so I'm going, I'm going with Florida. Sorry, Sam. This is what I am going to say. I think that the Knicks are going to win this game. Sorry, Sheram. I don't want the Knicks and win. I say, I ain't New York.

I want to go for my home team because Chairman is my brother. I want them to win. But this is what I really believe, right? This is the closest they're going to get to the championship. Period. I don't think that, no, at the beginning of this year, we talked about how injuries,

this is the best year for the Knicks to actually go to a championship because the injury were Halliburton, and then we talked about Tatum's injury, and then we were saying that everybody bought everybody back on the Knicks. And the Knicks haven't been looking bad, but they haven't been looking spectacular. I thought the Knicks were going to come out the gate and look how OKC is looking.

Not saying that they would be 24 and 1 or anything like that, but they'd be a little more dominant. They were having problems on the road, so on and so forth. But I think the NBA is involved, and they want to see Jalen Bresden against SGA. I think that's a great matchup, man. I think that's going to give views, and this would be a great argument for what Sen is arguing me about, too.

sent it saying the SGA is not as popular as Jalen Brunson. He's mad at you stat still for agreeing with me about... That's fine. Yeah, so I'm always rooting for my brother Sham, but I think that this is a showdown for SGA against Jalen Brunson. We'll see what happens. Okay. But hopefully my brother will be at the championship on Tuesday.

That's what I'm rooting for before. Yes. You know what? This is a preview of what's to come in the Eastern Conference Finals. So I think whatever happens here is only going to make for a better game come to spring, you know. So you don't think that Detroit has a chance to be in the Eastern Conference Finals? No, I think they do. But I think the way that Orlando is playing right now, if they keep this up,

It's definitely going to be them, too, because them being at the cup, right, after somebody lose here this weekend, somebody goes home with a chip on their shoulder to redeem this, which turns them up when they go back home. Like, you know what? The winner of this is feeling like we got the east. The loser of this is feeling like we got to get back. We got to get this lick back. Hey, yo. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, it's stupid.

Yeah, he's stupid. Mace, I got to ask you. So would you say that the magic's your team in the East? Is that what I'm hearing? Well, you know, when it comes to East Coast basketball, I'm a bad boy. I got to go with Detroit, man. And then after that, I got to go with Orlando.

Either one of them I could go with. just asking about Detroit, right? Now Detroit, the player's safest. See, this is what he does, right? And Mace, I'm glad you cleared it up when you said what kind of bad boy you are because I don't know if that's a good thing to say

this week. We're talking about the old Pistons bad boys, right? I'm talking about this. I'm talking about Isaiah. All right. We got to be clear. That's a ball, bad boy. Yeah, you're right, killer.

These days, niggins got to be clear. Yeah, I just told you I got to be clear. I'm talking about lamb beer, you know, fight in the middle of the game. You know, microwave bad boy, you know. Listen, I'm just being clear. Niggas will take a sound break and be like, Mace is still bad boy.

I'm just telling you. You got to be clear. You got to be clear. You got to explain this. Thank you for looking out for me. Of course, man. Of course. But see, this is what Mason does of Glass Sham is here.

And of course, Stas Edis, this is what he does. He says that these two teams talking about Nixon, Orlando, will be in the Eastern Conference finals. But some type of way before his sentence was over, the Detroit is his team. So if Detroit ends up making it, he's going to be like, well, that was my team anyway. I've been saying that I was the bad boys.

He plays the safe all over. No, no, killer is, that's my leg, part of my legacy is, you know, Joe Dumas and all of that. You know, that's where we come from, killer, the smaller guards, all of that. Shamno. One after that murder, you could have went to Charles Phillips and Richard Hamilton and them niggins if you were going to keep it up. Yeah, but I'm not them kind of bad, I'm not them kind of bad boys, though, you know, it's early. I don't think you should say no type of bad boys this week, my.

I think you should just say you fuck with the piss. Yeah, just every time I said, Nick, just mute that word. Guess I was going to say something. Yeah, I was just going to ask. I just like to ask so we could just follow, you know, the way that your brain operates because what happened to your people out in Milwaukee? Like, now we're, now it's Detroit. Yeah, and then it's the magic.

And it's like, Milwaukee's just out the question. Just clarification, maize. Listen, listen, Scott, don't start that. I know they're giving you raises and all of that. Don't start that. That's a legit question, you know. That's a legit question. What's the family name?

The Heinz family. Yeah, I see where you're going with this. But Milwaukee's been out of this. Milwaukee's been out of this since they traded my little, my little bro, AJ. I told you all, AJ. was smoke, man. I just, I just know things

and like Shem. When I see niggins acting funny, I got to get out of there. I had to get out of there. I'm dizzy. What's the question, what's the original question? It was just y'all's prediction

on the game, and I just had some clarification questions. That's all. You wanted to know about Milwaukee. I'm dizzy, B. Because you wanted to know about Milwaukee, killer. And I told I've been out of there.

When they didn't play my little man's AJ, I had to get out of there. Makes you say you dad, Milwaukee, two weeks ago. Yeah, but that was for football, camp. You're mixing up sports. Milwaukee don't have a football team. I'm talking about the Green Bay. It's all considered...

Milwaukee and Green Bay is two different places. I know, but everybody from Milwaukee goes to the game at Green Bay Camp. I don't have time to tell you. Even do I actually don't either. I actually don't have time. I don't know. And that's fine.

It's okay. You know, it's fine. Why don't you just say, why don't you just say you fuck with Wisconsin or, like, just put the whole state involved in? Like you said, we don't have time. We don't have time. So we're going to go on to the Spurs. They're moving on to play. O KC.

Mace, do you think there's any chance the Spurs can win this game? I think they're up to winning it. Actually, I really do. I think as great as OKC is, they got to lose some more games. That's why I say this. They got to lose some more games. And when I think of Harper Castle and all of the players that are there, if Wembe is playing, they definitely going to beat them.

But if Wembe is not, then they got a puncher's chance. I'm going to stick with the lives that's going on. This is what they're saying on the show, a puncher's chance. I'm going with a puncher's chance. Why should that be the rest of the fucking season? Everything is a puncher's chance. It's going to be the rest of the season. Everything's going to be a puncher's chance from this thing.

I don't even know why you gave him that verbi. Shem. I don't know why you gave him that verbi, man. Wimby? Yeah, Wimby, no. I think they have a chance, but OKC is deep, man. Pause. Like, I'm a real fear in a dorker.

You know, I started last year, and Jay Dubb's back. He's looking like he's healthy, you know, at least 95. Look, OKC is tough. I'm going to say if Wembe's not playing, then, no, they don't have a chance. Not right now at the moment. But I'm going to with OKC if Wimby is not playing. Okay, well, we... So wait, wait, wait, Cam.

It's not that, it's not that diffusing, Mason. Wait, I just want to add a question to it. No problem. What kind of chance you're saying they don't have any chance? Because, you know, you got the punches chance, you got any chance. When you get on the floor, when you get on the floor and play basketball, you have a chance. There you go. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Punch the shit. Everybody got a chance, well. When you get on the floor and play basketball, you have a chance. That's just that. So, okay. I'm not going to label it a puncher's chance. Like, Stap, make a note that this thing's going to run punches chance into the ground

to about much. I'm telling you that now. But when you get on the court and lace up your sneakers, you have a chance to win the game no matter what. So in the comments down below, let us know who y'all think will win the cup. We got one more before we wrap. So we never got to discuss the breaking news concerning Chris, Paul, and the Clippers. so the clippers decided to send Chris Paul home.

They announced he is no longer part of the team and the president of basketball operations said we will work with him on the next step of his career. He confirmed the news via his IG story. And as we know, he announced that this would be his last season. So Mace, just kind of seeing how things unfolded. How do you feel about this decision from the clippers and the way everything was handled?

I'm not really sure what transpired. Clippers Nation, but any time a Hall of Fame point guard get released on what we call this fairware tour is already alarming. I just would have to say that. It's very alarming because this is where you're supposed to get all your flowers. And for a nigga to stop you from getting your flowers is crazy. So I don't know what happened, but something had to happen to make them say, we're going to work with you on your future is like saying, you're not going to get your flowers here,

but we can't say what's really going on. And to cover it up, we're just going to make it seem like we're in good graces. You're not in good graces if you stop a nigga midway during this farewell tour. That's just what I would say. So I think this is crazy. This is where Chris Paul began to blossom. He turned this franchise around. So for a team that you turned the franchise around and not let you get your flowers, it's just got to be more and more to this story.

And I wish they would let people know because it makes the organization look crazy, especially when you got so many reputable people that's there for different reasons in this clip of nation. So without taking a shot at anyone, this would just be my perception based upon the limit. information that I have at this point. Turned them around to do what, murder? Where do you turn them around? What do you do with the club? What did he turn around to? I mean, before Chris Paul got to the clippers,

they were actually nobody. They never got to any kind of great playoff place. They wasn't like a popping team really at no time for me. I know at one time they had your boy, Darius. smiles in them, but I don't think that was nothing like Lobb City. I think Lobb City was the best Clippers team that the Clippers have ever had to meet. They couldn't get over the Humple, Golden State. They never even went to the Western Conference Final.

Then they lost the OKC. I get what you saying, but I don't really know what hump. And look, I just wanted to know what you was talking about with the Clippers. But I'll say this. We take a lot of shot at Chris Paul on this, a lot of shots of Chris Paul. on this show. You take a lot of shots to Chris.

You too, he ain't speak to you neither when we went to the game. He was looking at both of us and they say nothing to even one of them. He was looking at you and why he ain't come to speak to you. Why he ain't speak to me? He ain't speak to the Neville one of us. He didn't say nothing to you.

He was not watching at you too. He didn't say shit to neither one of us. He said he got that head nod. He did it to me too. He said they're like this across the court. And both of us. Well, at least he went like this to me, Cam. That wasn't a cool one.

He was like, what's up? So that was that one. Everything good? He gave you that one. He saw Cam, sham, and just turned his face like. Yes. It was both of us, for us. It wasn't just me.

But, yeah, but sit on a serious note. Like, I don't, I mean, when I say shots, I just call it like, I see it. When he went to go to the state, I just said I didn't think it would work out because it was just too much tension and not bad tension. I'm like, like Shams said earlier, you got to be a professional. We know Draymond didn't really fuck with him. We see what Chris Paul was doing. I mean, part of me was some of him in the battles that, um, fucking

him and stuff was going through over the years. And to me, Chris Paul is one of the floor generals and I'm just talking about the Golden State situation where he likes the coach during the game. And, you know, he'd be like, Jim, I'm like, no, go there. And then you see during, like, fouls or something, he's over there talking to players. And I was like, niggins ain't listening

and how they go out and say? Like, yo, don't tell us. That was just my opinion when they got there and it didn't work out. And then wherever he else he went, it wasn't working out. Phoenix, he went to the chip, so I thought that was pretty good.

But my personal opinion is when I seen him going back to the Clippers at the beginning of season, I didn't think it worked here either because you have James Hart in there and it's a famous clip this out where he's trying to tell James Hart and some shit, and James Hart smack his hand out his face.

I don't know if you got seen that clip. You ever seen that clip? They can smack the shit out Chris Paul in the huddle. And I don't think James Hardin likes Chris Paul. I don't know this for a fact, but just from the videos that I've seen, I'm like, this is not going to work. I said this at the beginning of the season. And like me said, we don't know exactly what happened.

But with this clip is only one in six games this season. I don't know who got a lot of cashie over there. Not only look, they only won six games. Coral Lenin's not always available. So if I'm the GM or the owner, even the coach, shout out to Todd Lou, What's my nigga too? A nigga can't really tell me to St. Chris Paul if you're another player.

I have no idea why he sent home, but Mace made a great point on your farewell tour something bad actually had to happen because he was saying he's retiring this year. But what I will say is this. Shout to Sam Presti, man. That niggas looking like a fucking genius because OKC got a lot of lottery picks coming up this year

and the clippers don't got shit. They gave up all these fucking picks to get Paul George. Paul George is not there no more. And now you got Shea over there, league MVP, finals MVP, NBA champion. And you got like three picks in the lottery coming up. San Presby a motherfucker, man. I ended with that. I know he's talking about Chris Ball.

But shout out the nigger San Presti, man. I do. I just want to say, because I know it's a business and you got to make moves that make sense for the business. But I just felt like, and I know we don't know the exact details, I just feel like the whole thing could have been handled a lot better. I just feel like still the way things were handled was wrong. Like, he is better than me because I always take the high road. But if somebody that I'm working for was just kind of like, okay, we're sending you home

in the middle of the night. And then like, he didn't really even have much of reaction to it. He was real cool about it. And it's just kind of like, oh, I'm seeing the positives. I get to spend time with my family and being around my kids. But for his last year, I don't think anybody should. have to go out the way that they kind of did it. Because now he's even contemplating, like,

do I rejoin with another team to actually do, like, a final, like, farewell tour, like, what are kind of, like, the next steps? And I just feel like at a certain age, you shouldn't even have to deal with all that. I feel like the organization should take care of you. But from a lot of the decisions that the Clippers organization has made, I don't really know if they really take the best care of everybody to be able to. Well, let me ask you to start real quick.

You're not okay with him getting traded in the middle of the night, but you're cool with Harrison Mons getting traded at halftime. I didn't say I was cool with it. Hey, take the hero. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't say I was cool with it. And they can't get traded a middle night,

but then they could get traded at halftime. Also, reactions do matter, but for Chris Paul specifically, especially if this is, he's saying this is my retirement year and the organization is just be like, bye, that's fucked up. Like I said, we say.

It's both messed up. I understand that, but I just feel like, I don't know. Clippers got a lot of things that they got to do better at. Stag, killer. Just think about this, right? I think they actually, there's two things I see now that I hear you guys talking. Number one, he knows what happened here.

That's why he's cool with leaving. You don't let somebody say, yo, get the fuck out of my house. And then you just be like, yes. When you're saying yes, if you know something really, wrong happen that you did. And number two, the thing I'm thinking about is that this is good for him. He's supposed to be retiring with the hornets, not with the with the clippers. He's supposed to be retiring with the hornets. He needs a farewell tour with the hornets or with the pelicans, not with the clippers. But I can see how he tried to finagle this so he can retire in L.A.

So now I'm, I'm seeing it from another angle. That's all. Paul. Listen, man, my opinion is this, and that's a great take, mace. I think that's great. But Chris Paul was on a flight when he landed, he wasn't with the sons no more. He's with OKC. They did, they be doing Chris, wow.

Poor son. That nigga had, I think it was Good Morning America. He had pulled up. They said, hey, you got traded mid-flight. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just found out when I looked at Twitter. Fuck is, I was watching. that good morning America or that morning show he was on.

So like Sam said, you got to really be a professional because it should be fat. You fly from L.A. with the sons and you land in New York and you're OKC. It's real disrespectful. It really is. It's real crazy. But we'll see what he decides to do.

With that being said, that is all the time that we have for today. Shamm, of course, we appreciate you for stopping by. Thank you, Shamm. Thank you, for having me. Shout out to Chris Paul having a great legacy. He did a lot for point guards all over the world. So, you know, just going to give him a shout out for that, for real, for real. Big shout out to CP3, man.

Yes. And shout out the team's CP3. And shout out the team CP3. And, Sham, thanks for the sneakers. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Guy. Yeah, yeah, Shemp, thanks for the sneakers. And also, his book is available out right now.

So what's the name of it? One more time so everybody knows. Name of your book? Oh, I'm up there. No, I'll say, what's the name of your books? So people, I don't know. Talk to God. Yeah, my man.

You call me off God. Yeah. No, the book is definitely still out on Amazon everywhere, so please go copy. I think y'all would like it. You know, real life, real life stuff. And just like you said, just talking about any business, you know, businesses to do what's best for the business. and that's what that's what that's always going to happen no matter what not saying right wrong or indifference but the business always going to be the business you know so people always just got to remember that when they make decisions on their life and things they want to do in their life and this goes back this goes back to what i normally say all the time stat in the end it will tell you if you was right or wrong so don't let that go over y'all

y'all head. We will see. But make sure y'all check out his book and good luck to y'all this week. And thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thank you.