IT IS WHAT IT IS - SUPRISES & TAKEAWAYS FROM THE NFL DRAFT WITH MAURICE CLARETT | S4 EP.5

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

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I know exactly what you're doing, man. Oh, my goodness. We joined with some guests today. I don't know. We only got mics for y'all. We'll get some mics during the next break,

but we got Dallas, Texas in the building. We let some fans come in today. In Florida. Where in Florida are you from? Where did you guys... Boyfriend. Oh, they're still in the view. We let some fans come in today. In Florida. What part of Florida are you from? Where did you guys, boyfriend? Oh, they're still in the view.

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Yeah. That's what's up. So we hear you guys are sports fans. We're about to start the show and then we'll let you guys chime in if we get towards something you guys may know. This is like a live show today. This is our first live show. Facts. Okay.

And then today we are also joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, what's up? Mo, what's good, Mo? What's good, baby? How you doing? Yeah, what are we wearing today? What do we got on? Hey, hold on.

I don't have anything but a black tee. I will say this. Look, I let y'all down today. I will say this. All of the shirts are ordered. So next week, y'all have a link. And so y'all got that coming. So pause, but it's just a black tee today.

Listen, man, you've been for 27 weeks straight consistent with shirts, man. You could take a day off, man. We respect it, man. Okay, so let's get started. It's NFL draft time, and Caleb Williams was selected as the first overall pick by the Chicago Bears, which isn't a surprise, but do you guys feel like he was the right choice and the right pick? If he wasn't, we're about to find out. We're definitely about to find out.

But Mo, you're supposed to go first. You're the expert. We're going to let you be the expert today. No, hold on one second, Mo, Mo, Mo. Before you go real quick, do you guys want to go? Put the big camera on real quick. Do y'all want to go like your husband it looks like y'all looking like put the big camera on real quick do y'all want to leave

oh okay because it looked like they got an attitude their husbands are outside and they like yo what the fuck are y'all doing in there with them niggas

why are y'all in there with them niggas right now and y'all niggas are not saying yeah what I'm saying he said he can't hear are y'all in there with them niggas right now? And y'all niggas are not saying, yeah, what I'm saying. He said he can't hear us. Are y'all cool being here? Because I feel tension to my right. Okay.

All right, cool. Look, look, I'm saying. Okay, got you. Oh, he's good. Okay, he said he's good. Okay. I was making sure you was good. Okay, got you.

Okay, thumbs up. All right, cool. My bad, my good. Okay, he said he's good. Okay. I was making sure you was good. Okay, gotcha. Okay, thumbs up. All right, cool. My bad, Moe. My bad. Okay. And I see the little concern on their face. Okay, cool. I just wanted to make sure everything was copacetic.

My bad, Moe. No, well, I think it was the obvious pick out of the guys that are, that's in the draft. So I actually had a chance to watch a lot of his pre-draft film and a lot of the behind the scenes stuff where the quarterbacks, where he would go into different states with other quarterbacks who are currently in the NFL, him and Brock Purdy. And he would do all these drills. And there was these metrics and these measurables of like when he released the ball, his knowledge of the game. And it gave me a different insight rather than me criticizing who he was and the time where he lost and ran into the stands and basically was crying with his mother.

So I had like a different perspective on him. I also watched him on the pivot and just – I liked him a little bit more after you kind of like seen his personality. So I think it's the right pick. And then if you look at what Chicago is doing right now, they definitely think it's the right pick because they just gave a request to the city to build a $5 billion indoor stadium. And when I heard Bill Belichick speaking today,

everybody was speaking like, yo, he's a generational talent. And I would like to believe that, you know, guys who've coached Tom Brady or, you know, just people who have a little bit more knowledge than me well if they're talking about him like that he has to be um I hope that he's he's uh the Chicago's right pick so uh after his pre-draft stuff I'm rooting for my man to uh to do well in Chicago yeah um the the most thing that I'm I'm surprised about Caleb Caleb was an obvious choice. We all knew that he was going to Chicago. It's still out to see how he's going to perform.

I think he's going to have a good year. You know, a lot of bad things happen in Chicago, so I'm wishing him the best in Chicago. But the most surprising thing to me in this draft was the Atlanta Falcons. Like, it was a good pick, but it didn't make sense. Like, if they already got Kirk Cousins and they signed him for four years for $180 million, I don't know why they got Penix, right? Michael Penix. Yeah.

But, you know, we'll see. Kirk Cousins has a history of getting hurt a lot. So that was a high-level backup pick. I think Penix should be playing immediately. So I think Elena Falcons, part of me did kind of what you and Stat do, keep a safety net just in case then y'all have a good backup but where's he from Florida you know it's all like

this is what y'all niggas do safety net so and it's the Atlanta Falcons but this is a good backup quarterback and a good backup quarterback and definitely talking about Pennix with Kirk Cousins' injury history. So I think that, I mean, I don't think he should be a backup immediately, but to me, it seems like the Atlanta Falcons thinks that he's going to get hurt.

Back to Caleb Williams, I don't really have too much to say about it. We'll see how it goes. This is kind of like Caitlin Clark being the first pick for the WNBA. We'll see how it goes. This is kind of like Kaitlyn Clark being the first pick for the WNBA. It was super duper obvious. It wasn't like, oh my god. Oh, Kayla Williams is going to

Chicago Bears. Niggas traded niggas out of there. They got rid of the motherfucking quarterback already two months, a month ago. Month and a half ago. Oh, it's news? It's not really news. Everybody knew this was going to happen. So, Mo, you gave a very eloquent answer being our analyst, which was dope.

But we all, we in America didn't know that Caleb Williams and Caitlyn Clark wasn't going first five, six months ago. Everybody knew. Yeah. They got to let his dog in the arena. That's what they got to do if they want him to play good. You got to have his dog with him. Okay.

So another stat. This is the first time in league history six quarterbacks were drafted in the top 12. What do you guys think of this stat? Maurice, we'll let you go first. Yeah, it just kind of shows you where the league is at. You know, you're phasing out a bunch of old quarterbacks that they've chosen over the last few years that didn't pan out. And it's a quarterback's league and everybody's looking for their home run player. You know what I'm saying?

And you had Jaden Daniels, Drake May. I was actually surprised. And I don't know if it was the campaigning of hardball with J.J. McCarthy. Like, I don't know how Jets fans are going to feel about him. I thought that they were going to choose Bo Nix instead. Just basically just him having, like, more experience, being a little bit older. I know J.J. McCarthy is a champion, but I just thought Bo Nix had more – excuse me, Bo Nix had more history throwing the ball.

But it just goes to speak to, like, this is a thrown league, and the rules protect the quarterbacks. Everybody knows that you need a superstar quarterback to win or at least somebody who's highly capable. But just kind of show you what a league is at. You know what I mean? I mean, I think it's cool as far as them getting drafted. My opinion is we have so many quarterbacks get drafted

and turn out to be not shit. That's just that. Zach Wilson, he's a great example. I'm not trying to say he ain't shit, but he kind of ain't shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was about to say. That's what you're saying. Yeah, but I'm saying the reason why I'm not going to be that hard on Zach Wilson

is because he's 24 years old. Yeah. And he has a lot of time left. And I know I brought up the scenario with Geno Smith and how he got a second chance probably five, six, seven years later, if not longer. I don't remember how long ago he's with the Jets, but he became the starting quarterback with the Seahawks.

So I don't want to throw Zach Wilson under the bus. But you could be great in college, but the translation has to make sense in the NFL. And out of all six of these quarterbacks that were drafted, are they going to be a generational talent? Are they going to be a franchise player one day? And that's what we have to wait to see. And that's what these teams seem like they're betting on,

especially with it being a quarterback-driven league. And then a lot of quarterbacks are running there. So the picks for, like right now, it's a big thing with, and Mo, you can speak to this, and we don't have to speak right now about it, but I'm talking about if we ever come across it, what they're doing with running backs. My question is how many running backs were drafted in the first round

because it seems like the running back position, pause, is fading out. And it's never going to fade out, but they're not getting paid. And now they're telling niggas, kids, I mean, don't even try out to be a running back because you're not going to get the check that a tight end would get or a receiver would get

or a quarterback would get. So now you got these kids in Pee Wee League or AA, or I don't know what they call it for football, but you know, the amateurs for football saying, I don't want to, Pop Warner, they don't want to be running backs anymore because when they get older, the check won't be the same but that's a more of a question that I would want to know how many running backs got picked in the first round as opposed to quarterbacks because

all six quarterbacks aren't going to be franchise players and if they are I'd be very surprised yeah and I think this was crazy that nobody selected defense in the top 10. It was really not a lot of defense. And defense is what wins the games. It seemed like they're shifting the league to a more offense-driven league instead of defense. And we all know in the playoffs, defense is what's going to determine who wins. Yeah. Then, Maurice, what's your viewpoint on that?

Basically, people making more offensive draft picks over defensive. Yeah. Then Maurice, what's your viewpoint on that? Basically people making more offensive draft picks over defensive. Yeah. So first thing that came to my mind, you know, he was the guest earlier on the first season, Le'Veon Bell. The history has always been that, you know, you get away from running backs because a running back can hold the team hostage. They would always say, hey, man, we get beat up. And then when it's time to transition into the season in this training camp, you have this billion-dollar, multi-million-dollar organization who's dependent upon his running back. And then the owners kind of say, you know, to hell with this. We're not going to let one guy hold out his contract

and try to hold his hostage for years when we know his body gets damaged real fast. And so they start making rules that were beneficial to quarterbacks. You can't hit the quarterback low. You can't hit the quarterback late. You can't hit the quarterback late. And they start finding guys all crazy. And that's when it became a pass-happy league. And so I've seen somebody refute actually what Mace just said when they said it's a defensive league.

I think it was Ray Lewis I see in the clip. He said it's not a defensive league anymore or defense wins championships. He's like, it's a quarterback. As a matter of fact, it was Warren Sapp. or defense wins championships. He's like, as a quarterback, no matter the fact it was Warren Sapp. And he said,

the quarterbacks have to actually put so many points on the board because they've made defense defenders hard to like pause. They made it hard for defenders not to get fine and to play aggressively like they used to play in the past. And so even when Mace was saying that, you know, he didn't see any defensive guys or defensive guys going to top 10. It was one guy. They don't get top 10. Yeah, it was one guy.

They don't get these offensive tackles. It was one guy, okay. But even when you're saying that, they're going to get these offensive tackles to protect either the quarterbacks who they've drafted in the past or that need protection. I know the one guy,

the one tackle went to the Bengals because you get Joe Burrows hurt all the time. You know what I'm saying? And anybody who has an investment, they're going to invest in that left tackle and any quarterback, you know, and any time that a team gets the chance to sort of like what Cam said,

go back and say, okay, is this a generational talent or is this a lottery pick? Let's try to bring him in and develop him. But I think that's what's actually going down with Atlanta. They said, okay, Michael Pennix also had those same injury issues. He had the ACL issues. So let's bring him into Atlanta. They said, okay, Michael Penix also had those same injury issues. He had the ACL

issues. So let's bring him into Atlanta. Let's let him sit behind Kirk Cousins for a year or two, sort of like what Jordan Love was doing up there in Green Bay and let these guys transition into the league slowly rather than throwing so much weight on their shoulders. Four years of a four year contract, it might be like two years guaranteed that they may have an option to get rid of him. They just front load his contract. You know, I don't know. I'm just guessing at this point.

Right. And then the Vikings traded up to the number 10 overall pick and drafted J.J. McCarthy. Do you guys believe that the Vikings is going to be a good fit for him? Race first. Oh, I must have seen that wrong. I thought, well,

they must have traded that pick for the Jets. Yes. Oh, I must have seen that wrong. I thought, well, they must have traded that pick for the Jets. Yes. Oh, I see. I seen it wrong. Well, that's my fault. Yeah. Go ahead and say it again. So JJ McCarthy is now with the Vikings.

So they traded up to get the number 10 overall pick. So do you guys think that the Vikings is going to be a good fit for JJ McCarthy? I don't know. He's like I say, he was a it's it goes back to a camera he was great in the hardball system right and i don't know what type of system uh uh the vikings run obviously if you pick somebody at 10 you thinking that there's a lot that they do in college that translates uh to the pro level but i don't know what they i don't i don't know what they can say yes or no but it wasn't like if you if you go back and look at the film of the other quarterbacks, be it the 50 passes that Bo Nix would throw

or the 45 or 50 passes that Michael Penix would throw, Michigan wasn't built that way. So you didn't go out here – you didn't see him go out here and throw the ball 40, 50, 60 times. And I just know that if you're not conditioned for that, if you're not used to that amount of looks, if you're not used to just that low pause of work and just in that pace of offense, like you've not done that enough.

And I don't know if that's the Minnesota Vikings office. I'm pretty sure we have some Viking fans in the chat and they'll be able to tell me, but I don't know. I would probably pick somebody else. I would probably pick Bo Nix. I like Bo Nix better than I like JJ McCarthy. And that's no bias towards him going to Michigan and me, you know, obviously being an Ohio State fan.

That's exactly what it is, Mo. Don't start that. You would prefer anybody but somebody from Michigan. No, he just, I don't know. Think about this, right? We've seen him all through the playoffs, through having all that success for the last two or three years up in Michigan, right? Michigan was a run-built team.

You know what I'm saying? They were built through Blake McCorum and then the other guy who was the backup, right? And their offense kind of ran through that. If we're sitting here saying that the running back is out of the league and you're a pass-first offense and you just don't have a lot of history with running or being a pass-first offense, it's sort of like what Cam said,

how does that skill set translate to the pros? Yeah. These other guys, that's all I was saying. He doesn't just come from that background. Not to say he can't do it because there's a lot of guys who adjust and they learn and they do well, but he just doesn't have that background that

would convince me of a top 10 pick in comparison to all these other guys who I would have had a chance to prove or take from. So go ahead and show some love to your boy Harrison. He went to the Cardinals.

He's going to enjoy that. Because I see I can't really say much about JJ or Bonis because those are both of my teams. You know, you got Oregon. You got Michigan. So, you know, we supposed to be here. How do you feel, though? Young safety.

Young Safety. Young Safety. My name is Young Safety. Shout out to Marv Harrison Jr. Shout out to Marv, right? Welcome to the party, man. He's a second I'm happy for him.

He came from Ohio State. He's going to be staying out there in Phoenix in Scottsdale he's gonna love it maybe I'll see if Kyler Murray is gonna do

what he need to do though that could be dangerous that could be really good yeah back to this Michigan nigga yo listen B

check this out I ain't really care for the nigga so much man I didn't really care for him he was in a good system. Is he going to transfer, translate good in the NFL?

I don't know. The thing about it is, and it's so fucked up, what would really, really, really be best for him if he could have went to the Chargers, but you know what's going on over there. Nobody getting rid of Justin Herbert, but to be under John Harbaugh again, and he knows him and he can

and John also coached previously in the NFL. He knows how the NFL works. He knows the kid. To be under him and Justin Herbert and that tutelage, that'd be dope

if Justin Herbert wasn't so young. If Justin Herbert was like 33 or 34, this would be the perfect place for him. Not saying that they had the opportunity to get him,

but he's 26. This nigga got another 10 years minimum. And he's nice. He just didn't have the pieces around him to produce the way that he needed to produce.

But that nigga's dead nice. But we'll see what happens. I know. I'm Ohio's. I'm an Ohio nigga. I'm not really, I'm not really excited about nothing

that goes on with Michigan even when it translates to the pros outside of Tom Brady. What about Fab Five? That's Michigan. We talking about football now. We talking about nigga niggas. Them my niggas.

Black socks, long shorts, bald heads. We were actually the Fab Five in high school. Yeah, we were Fab Five. We copied everything them niggas did. We cut our hair off. We got black socks, black sneakers. We did everything them niggas did. We cut our hair off. We got black socks, black sneakers. We did everything the Fab Five did. I'm talking about, now, don't

get me wrong. Ohio State and Michigan is a real rivalry no matter what, but it's bigger in football. Football is like a problem. It's a real problem. Basketball, eh, not as much. So I was referring to football. But Fab Five, yeah, Jalen, Webb, Juwan, them my niggas. Jim Jackson, them as much. So I was referring to football. But 5'5", yeah, Jalen, Webb,

Juwan, they're my niggas. Jim Jackson, they're my boys. Okay. What's the last nigga, Mace? Who? In the 5'5". Nobody shout some out. That's four.

I just gave you four. Who's the fifth nigga? You had one of them wrong. Okay, tell me. So why you correct me, nigga? I was waiting for you to finish. You had Chris Webber, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose, King, King, and then Jackson. What did I say, Jackson?

You said Jim Jackson. What's his first name? Jim Jackson, right, went to Ohio State. What was his name? So you know I'm Ohio. Ray Jackson. Oh, Ray Jackson. Nick, I didn't ask you to help him out, nigga.

He didn't help me actually. I was fixing my thing. He actually helped you out. He actually gave you the answer. Come on, man. I said King and Jackson. I just named everybody. He said Ray.

Ray! Ray! He went right in and fixed it. Ray Jackson. But you're right. I apologize about that. Jackson, Ohio State. That Jackson But you're right I apologize about that Yeah Jackson, Ohio State

That was on my mind I apologize about that Yeah Okay, so let's talk about So who was the fifth nigga? King King who? Oh, I forgot

His first name All right, cool I didn't know neither I just wanted to see you Add a little more Yeah, he was I think he was from Texas All right

From Texas, yo Yeah It look like we gonna get Jumped after this show Yeah, I think he was from Texas. All right. From Texas, yo. Yeah. It look like we're going to get jumped after this show. Why do y'all keep texting? They keep texting them. The mic. The mic.

Yeah, might as well. Oh, so we got to fight some UFC niggas when we get out of here. Yo, Nick, put the camera from that angle. You think you've been walking around cracking they knuckles all tight with shit outside. Look how you're standing. No, no, I would say it's cool, but y'all are making me concerned because y'all keep looking over there like, is everything all right? We wave to them. They're on TV.

You're on TV. You're on TV. The whole thing is, why are you waving at somebody y'all was with all day? Russ, what's up? All right, cool. Me and Stat was looking like y'all look worried. Is everything okay? Russ, what's up? All right, cool. Me and Stat was looking like y'all look worried. Is everything okay? Is the eye contact?

So for, yo, Nick, let me get a solo real quick. So for people that don't know, we was about to shoot the show. We're open to the public. They passed by from Texas and Miami. What are you ladies' names? And we let them join the show today.

And, you know, we have things to get to before we could talk to them, actually, but they didn't mind sitting down and chilling. And their husbands are actually

outside. In the window. In the window. And they stand in there like this. Like they took mad testosterone and it was like,

yeah, they didn't invite us in. So, we were just making sure that everything look look look look they keep getting ready we just wanted to make sure everything was copacetic that's it in case our audience is confused on what's going on here yeah okay so let's talk about the order in which the quarterbacks were drafted so after kayla williams it was j then Drake May then Michael Penix Jr. then JJ McCarthy do you guys think that the order

should have been switched or do you guys think that this is a good order for the way that the quarterbacks were drafted Maurice first you know I think like I said the first pick was obvious uh the second pick I, also was obvious as well with Jaden Daniels, you know, coming off his hospital run. And if you ask a lot of people, a lot of people think that he could have been picked first

just because he's more of a dual threat than Caleb Williams. I didn't expect New England to take Drake May. And the reason being is that he just didn't have a ton of experience for what was said that he just didn't have a ton of experience for what was said is that he didn't have a ton of experience against top-tier teams

in college. And I'm not sure how a lot of people feel about that, but I would like to believe, like, at the quarterback position, if you're picking somebody in the top three and you have everybody else who has that body at work, like, that's cool. And then, like, on another level, I was like, man, could New England, you know, after Cam Newton, and this was nothing to cam newton cam newton had already been proven

was new england with a black coach now was they ready for another black quarterback with michael pinnocks and i asked myself did that weigh its role in the decision making as to picking um what is the name drake may and the other guys like i said you could have mixed them up however but i didn't think jj mcc McCarthy was going to go before some of the other quarterbacks that got picked a little bit later in the first round. So I don't know. I guess it's a kind of toss-up, but I didn't think Drake May. Out of everybody, I think the first two, you could have interchanged those two.

The third pick, I think you could have put Michael Penix just because I think he's had the best performance pre-draft and then other people, they could have been mixed up however you mix them up just because I don't think there was a huge difference. Mo, I think a better question would be who would you think that Belichick

would have picked with that fourth pick? That's a good one. I meant third pick. If Caleb is off the board and Daniels is already gone, who would Belichick have picked? I'm thinking Bo Nix, man. Bo Nix are, like, based on the offense that they run,

I don't see how Bo Nix doesn't go before Drake May. And I'm only talking about when you literally look at just his body of work, the amount of passes, his age, him being a little bit older. You know, North Carolina, I get it. Like, he was a great guy for North Carolina. But I just don't see – I would have picked Bo Nix. Like, my pick would have either been Bo Nix or Michael Pennix, but I only say that because like, I've just seen more,

I've just seen these guys play a little bit more and I've liked, you know, even when they played each other, like you could have picked either one of those quarterbacks and not been wrong. But I was, I was legitimately saying like, if you're a black coach, that's probably like something you'll hear like in an interview 10 or 12 years from now. Right. And you have a head coach who probably either, you know, matured and, you know, he's on to do great things or he got kicked out. And you got to ask him like, hey, on draft day when you had Michael Penick sitting here who, you know, like stormed through college football his last two years. Like, you know, did you feel that you weren't able to pick him because you were a new black coach and you didn't want to bring a black quarterback in and you know that whole stigma around black quarterbacks are

one-dimensional you know all that shit that lamar jackson and all these other black quarterbacks deal with wow that's interesting okay and then i gotta ask. Who would you rather have, Maurice, first? Bo Nix. I think Zach Wilson, you know, he'll be a good backup to Bo Nix. And I think he'll be a great guy to roll with in camp. And I think like, you know, when you're picking quarterbacks, you have to say to yourself, like he went to the Jets and he was picked in the first round for a reason because he had potential and he has talent. And there's a there's a and I don't know if anybody's seen it. There's a what is it called? There's a video with Micah Parsons and C.J.

Stroud on the Internet. And I think it's on Micah Parsons actual podcast that he does. And they're both talking about the nuance of offense, the nuance of defense. And the point that I'm making is that when I seen CJ Stroud talk about the complexities of what it is to be a quarterback, the adjustments and just the game in general, I said, man, there's not a lot of people who can process this information and who have on field experience, who can either be your starting quarterback or your backup.

And I think when you're talking about general managers and coaches when you think of a Zach Wilson somebody who's had experience here you bring him over to Denver to see if that like he's just in a bad team or a bad system but I would go with uh Bo Nix and and I would look to have you know Zach Wilson back him up yeah I would also go with Bo Nix. I mean, it's an Oregon thing, man. I know you understand that. Cam got to understand that. You know, it's not Colorado time just yet, you know. It's an Oregon thing. And I also want to say this, Mo.

I mean, since you're the only expert left other than me now, who were the top of the other six quarterbacks? He got laughed at. How did we get here? What are we talking about? Every day. Anytime, let me explain something to the audience real quick. Anytime when he says something, he'd be like, you know,

he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's like, you know, it's the organ thing, you know? And then he just starts rambling and spinning. So audience, pay attention to that. Anytime he says, you know, he's scr just starts rambling and spinning. So audience, pay attention to that. Anytime he says, you know, he's scrambling in his brain. I'm just letting y'all know that. I already know that. You know, when he goes, you know, he's scrambling.

I'm just telling y'all, I know this nigga. And he talks like, well, I'm knowing you, you know. Whenever you know he's out, he's thinking. He doesn't even know what he's about to say next. I did know what I was about to say. He said it wasn't six quarterbacks that was drafted until, I mean, right now since 1983. I wanted to know if Mo knew those six quarterbacks

because I seem to be the only expert on the stage, you know. I'm going to guess at this. Yeah. I don't have Google in front of me. So was Elway and Moreno in that draft? I can't tell you everything, Mo. He doesn't know. He has no idea.

He doesn't know the answer. This is what he does. How did I not know it if I gave him the question? I wasn't even listening to you. Once you said you know, I tuned out. Once you said you know, I started doing other shit. I didn't know you said. Once you say you know, I say you're about to talk a bunch of bullshit.

And I was like, I'm not even going to listen to no more of what you're saying. Because Moe, pay attention. Now he said because, Mo, pay attention. And he's like, well, you know, that means he's straight, but he know it, too. I just started doing other shit after that. I wasn't even paying him no mind. I'm the only expert in all that shit. He's Oregon. He's Michigan.

He's Milwaukee. He's the Knicks. No, I'm not. I'm not the Knicks. I'm not the Knicks, and I'm not the Bucs. You said the Knicks. No, I'm not. I'm not the Knicks. I'm not the Knicks, and I'm not the Bucs. I'm just... You said the Duck Bucs. Yeah.

That's what you said, bro. That's who I was going with. That's who I was going with. That's not my team, though. Okay. All right. You got rid of Kansas City when they was doing bad. Went back there.

I'm not feeling too good. I don't have time to go on Google. Cam is trying to argue with me. I don't even know what you're talking about. So you can go on Google, Mo. I know this nigga. Like, he knows me. I know him.

You're working to everything I love. He's trying to argue with me. Yo, Steph, what are we talking? Let me tell you. It's Elway, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly. Let me chime in. What's the question? What's going on?

It's the six quarterbacks that was drafted in 1983. Okay. Because this is the next time that this has happened in 2024. It's been that long since six quarterbacks. So the question is, do we know the six quarterbacks of 83? Yeah. You older than me. I wouldn't know them niggas.

I was like three, four. Nigga, you some old nigga if you know them niggas. If you know six quarterbacks that was drafted in 1983, you watch black and white TV. I don't know who was the six quarterbacks in 1983. Give me five, Paul. Give me five, Mo. I mean, this is why the experts are up here. Mo, younger than us. John Elway, Tom Blacklitch,

Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, and Tony Eason. Yeah, that's good, Moe. Both of y'all looking in your phones. Both of y'all just keep looking like

we can't see both of y'all looking for that information. I was just reading seeing if he was getting the list right. But if you knew it, you would have knew it in your brain.

You wouldn't have to see anything. I know he missed one. I know he missed one. That's why I was trying. Why would you need to your brain. You would not have to see everything. I know he missed one. I know he missed one. That's why I was trying. Why would you need to look if you knew? I'm looking at you. I know he missed one.

You know everybody can see you, right? I know, but I'm looking at you. I can tell he missed one. Look at me now. Tell me who's the sixth. Ken O'Brien. Yeah. Ken O'Brien.

No, look at me now and tell me the sixth. I just told you. No, look at me now and tell me the six. No, look at me now and do it again. You said the one I missed. No, who's the six now again? Dan Marino. You making me laugh. Don't try to switch your eyes. Forget it.

Deal's over. Look, look, look. You're trying to laugh. Look down. I'm not doing it. Forget it. I don't even want to switch your eyes down. Forget it. Deal's over. Look, look, look. He's trying to laugh. Look down. I'm not doing it. Forget it. I don't even want to talk about this topic. He's trying to get the laugh.

Nah. Bet is over. I'm out. I'm out, bro. I'm out, bro. Y'all got it. I don't even know the six quarterbacks in 83. I'm not going to lie.

And I don't know what these niggas going to do. We'll see as the weeks go along and get close to the training camp and so on and so forth. But Mace and Mo. Mo, great analysis. Mace, great hula hooping. Spin cycle class. Revolving door.

Your spin game is immaculate, man. You should do a spin cycle class. You should probably start one up. You're great at spinning. So, that was great, Mo. Don't feed into this nigga.

He don't be having... Look, look. You do this with a nigga, do this and look. Getting information. Now my screen is black, right? Look at that. Right now.

Yes. Right now. This is on right now. Okay. And then real quick before we go to break, this is actually a question for everybody.

So the draft location was in Detroit. What's you guys' overall opinion on the draft location and what city in particular do you guys think it should be at?

Hmm. Well, I'm happy for Detroit. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. For what? Okay. What's the name of his gym?

Plug is Jim's. Oh, okay. Cool. All right. That's what's up. What do you guys think about Detroit? Three. Three. Three's what's up. What do you guys think about Detroit? Three.

This is what I'm talking about. Now you're 305. Okay. I'm real consistent. I moved from Miami. I moved from Miami to here. Yes. She's from Jacksonville.

I was born in Jacksonville. Lived in Tampa. Went to school school in Miami so whatever's going on in any of the places it's Florida thank you that's not a fact it's all Florida let me tell you something I know niggas in Dade County and don't fuck with niggas in Brown County and that's

Miami but no I know I know nigga niggas. Drez, Gold Thief. They be like, I don't fuck with them. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you. And I know Dade County niggas that'll be like, nah, I'm some Broward niggas. And I know Broward niggas be like, I don't fuck with them.

So, this is hours away. This is only 20 minute driving, niggas. This is not fucking with each other. So, yeah, it's that 305 and everything, guys. 803. If you know, you know. 813. niggas does not fuck with each other. So, yeah, it's that 305 and everything. That's what the lucky audience does. If you know, you know.

813. Yeah. That's where she really grew up. That's Tampa. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Okay, and then what's your opinion on Detroit? Okay, why? Okay.

Okay. And then what location Do you guys think Would be good For the NFL draft Just in general Yeah Dallas would be dope Because it's a

It's a big football city I'm gonna I'm gonna say Harlem Yeah I'm from Harlem What do we get? Besides a Globetrotters. Yeah.

Go ahead, say it. What you want to say? No, we want to hear what you want to say. We want to hear. Put the mic up. Frank Lucas. Hey, she said American Games. Frank Lucas is from South Carolina, but he made his money in Harlem.

But yes, Frank Lucas snitched, though. So we don't really count that nigga like that. We don't fuck with snitches. He's a rat. Who do you guys know from Harlem? That's a good answer. That's the correct answer. That's his song.

Yeah, that's right. I'm's his song yeah that's right I'm glad to you got your rollie on yeah yeah let's throw the rollies in yeah I'm glad you got your rollie in the sky

that's today's calm fit yeah it's a calm fit okay okay anything else that you guys that comes to mind

let's go to break and come back ask them a couple questions and then get the stuff to wrap up, and we come back from break. Okay, and then Maurice? Most staying. Most staying. Yeah.

Okay, well, we're going to go to break, and then when we return, we will discuss the Sixers versus the Knicks. Don't go anywhere. She called this thing about toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust.

But she really thinking about it. She want to be free. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Clippers will play the Mavs. Underdog fantasy has Luka at eight and a half first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? That's a good one.

Because he only need 8 4 times To get 32 So I'm gonna go higher I gotta go higher I'm going against Anything he says No I don't even care

I don't care I talked to my Niggas at Underdog today It was 7.3 actually Thank you Nick When I called you He said let me clarify Which Nick

Not Nick and Nigg Not Nick from Underdog Fantasy. You rock with that Nick over there since he's giving you the stats and all that. Okay. Kawhi is at 21 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm going to go higher. How many?

21 and a half. Kawhi, lower. Okay. And James Harden is at eight assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher.

I'm going higher. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. I got to ask, when I mentioned James Harden's name, you made a

reaction. Do you have a favorite player or what was the reason for the reaction? Yeah. I said James Harden, you said, said hmm so i just had to ask you oh why would you say james hard's overrated what you have to have a reason behind in the mic in the mic what's your reasoning for not liking James Harden this is the realest sports show you ever gonna be on oh shit this is personal this is see this is shit we like Okay Okay So let me ask you a question real quick, Murder

Before, I don't know if you're going to say something You don't like players that don't come in with haircuts And don't groom, say it I'm correct She's from our generation Yeah, but you know what I heard somebody say? Gilbert Arenas, actually. He said the players who come groomed ain't shit.

He said that the niggas who want to have waves and they braids done every time. He said, look at... Gilbert Arenas said, look at Kevin Durant. Never cut... He said all the nice, nice niggas don't care about that. And I kind of agree with you because we from Harlem, like, I get a haircut

every other day. Yeah. Me personally. So I get where you're coming from. But another former NBA player was like, the good niggas don't have time for all that.

What do you think about that, Mase? SGA. SGA comes, he always comes crispy. Kawhi's braids be crispy too. Westbrook. LeBron. LeBron should be crispy all the time.

No, I'm saying he always tries to keep himself. I've seen LeBron, and that's my guy. Yeah. I'm not going to say LeBron every game. Not every game, but he definitely does. No, he's a personal friend. Like, that's my guy. But I'm not going to say he's groomed every single game.

Who else? Good players. Book. Who else? Jimmy Butler, Miami. What do you think about it? What do you think about when he had a perm for the preseason? Tatum?

Yeah, Tatum is very clean cut. He's a light-skinned nigga, though. Light-skinned niggas are always going to make sure they shit his groove like that. That's how light-skinned niggas eat. I named two light-skinned niggas back and back.

Yeah, you're a light-skinned nigga. Who else? What NBA players you guys think are cute? He's not in the NBA anymore, but as everything is everything not to cut you off

everything going to be Miami that is a stat too over here okay so so Dwayne Dwayne Wade is cute Devin Booker okay

Chris Humphries Chris Humphries Chris Humphries is wild throwback I didn't know you were going to talk about Blake Griffin are you guys

have you guys ever dated black yeah you black yeah that's what's up so you just pointed out so that means

no for everybody else. No, we have a yes on you, so none of you guys ever dated Black? Yeah? How'd you like it? No, you're married to somebody, but... She looking at me. How did you like it? We see Aquarius Alright Cause I be type dry

no matter what the race is. If you start boring me, I'll start tuning out, man. So you had a culture difference when it came to black. How about your friend behind you? Have you dated black? How'd you like it?

Can I see it now? Can you stand up, please? So I can see your booty. Oh. Okay. Nice. So, let me, can I say something real quick? When I say dated black, what her friend did was say,

you see her booty, meaning that black men like booties. So, she did that. Why would you put a booty on display knowing that black men love booties? And you knew that too, didn't you? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely right.

Absolutely right. So let's ask you ladies real quick because we have to move on with the show. Who do you guys think are going to win a championship this year? Yeah, that's what you guys said tonight. We come to Dallas a lot. A friend of ours is an assistant coach

on the Mavericks as well. So I have to share him going. Yep. What are we going to do when we get there? Okay. Okay, we'll get it together. Yep. Okay.

What? I'm saying, do you think you guys' husbands is cool with all this? Super cool. Okay. I'm just asking. Just gotta make sure. That's what's up. And your husband's out there too? Oh, their husband's right there.

And your boyfriend? Okay. Okay, that's what's up. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay, and then I got to ask real quick before we even go into the series. Do you speak Spanish? Okay, he speaks really good Spanish too.

Yeah, absolutely. He's an expert. Yeah, he's actually an expert. Okay. She's in front of you. Yeah, that's her. No, no, no. Ask him the question of spinners.

That was a good one, Stack. Yeah, yeah. Tell him, you're a spinners expert. That was good. He's a, yeah. Yeah, Murph, you're an expert. No, no, what happened is we was talking about Spanish, and he told me he's a Spanish expert.

So I asked him, I said, como te ama? He knew that. Then I said, donde vivas? And he said, es lo que. Something that was crazy. So we was figuring since you fluent in Spanish, and he's fluent because he said, yo, Murda, hit him with the one line you know.

Hit him with your one line. What's fluent because he said, yo, Murda, hit him with the one line you know. Hit him with your one line. What's your one line you know, Murda? That was cute. What's your one line? He said, mami, lady. He had a one line and it sounded good. So he act like he knew Spanish. He don't think I know Spanish.

Let me take this out because I'm not able to hear him. I can't hear you. What did you say? I can't hear you. I'm thinking about how I want to answer. Whoever y'all. Yeah. Huh?

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sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí sí Let's go, bro. Let's go, bro. What's your question? Suave, grande, papi. Grande, papi. Oh, gosh. Hey, yo. Pause, boss. How do you say pause in Spanish? They say pause.

Pau, vada. Pau, vada. They say grande, papi. I know. You wild. I was just me. Whoever, y'all. Let's go, Steph.

Let's go, Steph. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. See, mommy. See, mommy. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yo. Yeah. See, mommy? See, mommy? Oh my gosh.

We might want to bring y'all back for another show another time. Yes. Yes. Yes. OK. And then real quick before we wrap the show, because I know one of you guys said you were a Knicks fan, right?

I'm from Connecticut. OK. What part of Connecticut are you from? I'm from Connecticut. and right okay what part of Connecticut are you from I used to live in well I hustled in Bridgeport for a minute but then I

Israel some money up there yeah and then I stayed where the fuck digger had me New Haven yeah that's what I'm saying oh yeah I forgot

you was with us up there because of that murder so I can't do that. It's taken like two months to get out of there. We actually say to West Haven. Shout out to West Haven. Okay, so Embiid set a playoff career high of 50 points,

but the Sixers beat the Knicks 125 to 114. How do you feel about the series? So I'm going to ask you guys, who do you think is going to win? The Sixers or the Knicks? Wish. Well, the Knicks are winning the series if you guys don't know two to one, just so you know. Two to one.

It's what we've been saying. You heard us. Yo, you said the same thing I said. You want them to win, but we're not going to keep our hopes up. What do you feel about Spike Lee? Yeah. You know he's like a Knicks fan. He's always at the Knicks game.

Do you think he's good luck? Yo, see, yo, she says everything we say. Everything you're saying, we've been saying. We've been saying the same thing. Yo, that's why I wanted to ask you. Yeah, we've been saying the same thing. Yo, we said the same thing. Yeah, they did. They literally did.

Yo, we said the same thing, yo. She's a bob his head, man. She said the same exact thing. He needs to watch him. You said the same thing, yo. See the vibe is here, man. She said the same exact thing. He needs to watch the home. You said the same thing. Yeah. Look, real quick. This game was real chippy last night.

What I would say is this. Philly definitely needed to win this game. You don't want to go there 0-3. It was a good game competitive. Jalen Brunson, what do you have, 39 like that yes yeah 39 crazy right now 39 yeah yeah 39 points but see Jalen Brunson I don't know this for a fact because we still have to wait there's still some games to be played but scoring 39 doesn't equal a victory. When he's having 21, 22 points, that equaled a victory.

So, Joel Embiid, I want to give him a lot of credit because he's coming back from surgical, from having a, I forget the name of the surgery he had. Make a long story short, he had surgery on his knee. But what came out last night, what a lot of people don't know

is that he's been suffering from the last week or two with Bell's Parsley, if I'm saying it correctly. knee but what came out last night what a lot of people don't know is that he's been suffering from the last week or two with bells parsley if i'm saying it correctly and a lot of people didn't know that i see when he was laying on the ground when he did that dunk throw it off the backboard and dunked himself and he he was just laying on his back and one eye was only blinking and i'm like what's going on what part of me that makes you only one eye blank And I'm like, what's going on? What part of the knee that makes you only one eye blink? And I was like, damn, what's going on? But now we know that he's been dealing with this.

And me just doing a quick due diligence on Bell's Paisley, if I'm saying it right. Parsley. If I'm saying it right. It's something that can be treated. Usually it doesn't happen more than once. So I'm happy that he won't have to go through that in the future. But to be dealing with coming back from knee surgery,

the Bells, Paisley, Paisley, if I'm saying it right, and to still have 50 points is truly amazing because a lot of niggas could have tapped out. A lot of niggas could have said, yo, we don't want to do it.

My leg is hurt. My face, I'm having... And for people that don't know what that is because I didn't know what it is yeah it's muscle weakness in your face so for him to be dealing with all this and get 50 points still is amazing i don't know if they can win the series dealing with everything that he's dealing with because it took 50 points for him to for them to win as well but i do wish him luck and i want

to say that he has a lot of heart that a lot of players don't have this, uh, this day and age. So I want to give him a lot of credit, uh, New York. We have to figure this out because you guys were playing really, really well, uh,

in the first half, but I don't know if Jalen Brunson scoring 40 is going to get you guys the series. We need to probably go figure out what happened the first two games because Jalen Brunson definitely had poor shooting nights the first two games, but scoring 40, is that going to get you guys to win the series? That's the question.

And then, okay. Maurice, any quick thoughts before we wrap? Oh, no, I was just building on what Cam said. I had a good first half of day and that third quarter run that they had

where Joe MB probably had like four or five threes from me watching. But I asked myself this as well. I was like, man, can Jalen Brunson even keep up this pace? You know, Philly had, like yesterday, they had more people distributing the ball to more people, more people were productive. Even though, you know, Joel had the 50 points, they just seemed like at the end of the second quarter and on to the end of the game, they went crazy.

But I will say this, this has nothing to do with the game. For everybody who's asking, Brother Mace, phenomenal music, man. I had a chance to hear it this week. So for everybody who's listening to me, I heard it myself. Y'all know I wouldn't bullshit y'all. So I just wanted to tell y'all, the link for the shirt's going to be live. And when he do decide to come on outside and do

what he do, you're going to enjoy it. What do you mean phenomenal music? Yeah. So I was outside of my son's jujitsu class and me and a good brother was on the phone. And the next thing you know, man, fuck, probably for like 90 minutes,

just fucking heaters. You talking about Mace? Made you a Mace? Talking about Brother Mace. Yeah. Because I'm tired of people telling me they want to freestyle from Mace. I can't badge it. Niggas like my freestyle, but they're like,

when is Mace going to do one? When is Mace going to do one? When is Mase going to do one? He doesn't realize what I go through, and I tell people I have the music, Moe, and everything else. Y'all can discuss it, because I'm getting beat up in the comments. Why don't you put something out?

Why? I'm just asking why. What is it about? What's the reason? Why? Hey! You got good music. This is true, man.

Now you're doing it to Moe. You're playing 90 minutes on the phone yo what are you waiting for the put can you do a freestyle one day yeah you said you're booking a studio You got music right now We don't even need to book a studio Alright, on the other side For the audience Why won't you do anything musically?

I'm gonna do music Very believable Well That is all the time we have for today Maurice, thank you for being here Ladies, thank you for being here Anything Ladies, thank you for being here. Anything you want to shout out? Y'all want to give some shout outs?

Any shout out before you leave? Okay, there you have it. There you have it. Hey, thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.