IT IS WHAT IT IS - SUSPENSIONS FOR OBJ & CONOR MCGREGOR GOT US WONDERING IF THEY JUST FINESSING THE PROGRAM!

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

On this episode, Maurice Clarett is back to discuss Odell Beckham Jr’s suspension for 6 games after a failed test, does this make you look at his career differently upon the news? Then, sticking with suspensions, UFC Mega Star Conor McGregor is facing a 18 month suspension for failing to show up for testing, what’s the future of the once icon of MMA? Next, Sorry Killa but Joe Flacco is gonna be the new QB for the Bengals after the Browns traded him in Division, is Stat Baby nervous about Pitt now?! Lastly, we end the show talking about why is Bill Belichick struggling in North Carolina? Maurice Clarett Is Back (0:00) OBJ Suspension (4:00) Conor McGregor (23:00) Joe Flacco QB1 In Cincy (33:45) Bill Belichick (47:30) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So make sure y'all support the show. If you guys are watching, make sure y'all hit that subscribe button, lock in your bonus and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby. along with your host, Mace and Cam. And today we are joining with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, what's up?

Killer was good. Look at this, nigger. Killer, not early in the morning, pause. Come on, man. What happened? You're talking to me? You're talking about, look at me or look at Mo. The Jersey.

What's that about? I just came back to the crib. I just threw something new and murder. Joe, I think this Joe Montana, murder, murder. I got a mess in here, my nigga. You wouldn't even know it's going. I got four bedrooms of closets, man.

All I got is, I'm so just got in here. It's nothing but clothes. I didn't have to grab the first jersey. Let me take you on tour real quick. I know you got to start the show. It's a messing man, my nigga. I ain't been in this shit a year. And all I got, Murdo, all I did was when he grabbed a jersey.

Sneakers all over the place. It's a bedroom, man. It's a bedroom. I just braille, man. I'm not trading up like you. I know you were switching teams and everything else. I'm more disgusted at how this shit looking at here, man.

Yeah, okay, okay. I'm trying to get on. Ain't nothing special. I ain't trying to throw some blood nose and nothing, man. Yeah, I dudge you as darn. You know. Well, I am the nostalgia. I am the same.

My nickname is nostalgia, man. Joe Montana, man. But you see, we got flaco, man. You know, we'll talk about that. Oh, gosh. We will discuss that. But at least he showed you, May. You asked, he showed.

Don't get scared. We got floco in the division. I'm not. I was never worried about y'all. I was never worried about y'all, but it's okay. Young flaco, young flaco back. Right. back i mean he's been back you know murder he got just as many champions he got just as many

championships as they're the same age yeah yeah no points we'll talk about it later okay stat and then marie's glad to have you on the show how you feel in today all is well all is great it's always great to join the show love to hear it okay so we're actually going to start mo is taking these suits serious moe i see you taking your suit serious moe i see you taking your suit serious. I moved up early in the week, so I had to, you know. They took you off dress down day, huh? So the time required. So suit it up. Love to see it. Okay. So we're actually going to start with O'Dell Beckham Jr. So he had an interview releasing a lot of things about him. So he's actually accepting a six-game suspension stemming from a violation of the NFL's policies on before.

performance-enhancing drugs last season. So we know that he last played for the Dolphins, but he is now not eligible to play football until at least late November. So Maurice, after hearing this news and then just seeing some of the sound bites from his interview, does this make you look at his career differently?

No, that was a couple of things I thought of when I seen the clip spot that he did with the pivot. And like in the classic voice of, I don't know, others, Mace, Cam, whoever, I was like, come on, my nigga. You know, and when you heard him talk about, you know, his six-game suspension, and if he took the PEDs, it's clear that he took the PEDs and he didn't want to admit it. But it is what it is.

You know, he had an ACL injury. He's getting a little bit older. And, you know, the truth for the matter is, you know, a lot of guys end up taking testosterone at the later part of their careers just because they're trying to recover more. And, you know, they just want to be what they once was earlier in their career. And I said this the same thing. I said the same thing last week when I talked about, you know, when you were an entertainer, you know, when you perform, like, you can always perform that song, no matter if you had to shape, in shape, or whatever. But athletes, you know, when we were talking about Russell Wilson, sometimes you try to relive your heyday or think that you was, what you once was, or however you're supposed to say it, you try to hold on who you used to be, and you actually can't be that person physically. And he's trying to hold on to what he used to be from the past.

And so he went on to, he went on to say a bunch. And if you heard what he said inside of the interview with the pivot, he said that he lost his discipline. And when you lose your discipline, you lose all of the off-season workouts and all the things that made him great in the first place. And he got caught, you know, doing what he did.

And I think it would have been more honorable just to say, man, I got caught. I try to, you know, take a drug to, you know, speed up my recovery or be what I once was. But to me, he looked worse, answering the question to Ryan, Clark, Fred, and Shannon. And so that was just my take on it.

I don't know, I can't tell him to hang it up because you don't know if he's playing for money or if he's just playing just because he wants to do what Aaron Rogers did by, you know, leaving his career on a high note, but, you know, whatever it was. But he just sounded bad in that sound like. Yeah, I think for him to be a Super Bowl champion, he definitely have to go about this a much better way. I understand you're trying to get back where you once was, but you really have to keep in mind that that people are recorded.

in these conversations and it's clear and you should make it clear are you just really trying to get back or are you really trying to just just just cheat the game you know at this point i i lose our respect for people that cheat the game because there's people really trying to be great there's people really waking up in the morning really putting the work in i look at this is the same way when it comes to hip-hop artists if you find out these guys have been doing illegal things to get their numbers to where your numbers are you just feel away about it when you're the people that did it the right way and that's that's how i feel on this so maybe i may i may be taking this personally so i'm just gonna pause and let statin killer talk about this

because i hate when people cheat the game yeah for me yeah for me it's a asterisk next to anybody who cheat just me personally like like me and me I know every day I bring this up, but me and sin argue about this. To me, as good as Canello is, it's an asterisk, that's his name, because you got caught eating in a steroid steak. And he's like, yo, I didn't know it was a steroid steak.

Yes, you did, you got caught this time. Your skills and all that went up, but you ate a steroid, and I can't say this. What I'm saying is like, more, I'm going to dobb in more or less boxing, Paci out. He never got caught doing anything, but when he fought Floyd, Floyd insisted that he take that Olympic-style drug test.

And that's why the fight took so long. Yep. That's the reason the fight took so long. And when they took that drug test, Pacquil, before that drug test, Pachio, he had a knockout since. Since they had to start taking them, that Olympic-style drug test, he ain't out a knockout sense. And I'm not going to accuse him because he ain't get caught. and deal with the niggas who'd be like, nah, I ain't even know that shit was in my milkshake.

Pause, yes, you did, my nigga. Eric Rodriguez, the Yankees. Nah, I ain't gonna front. He waited his career over after he made 400 million. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you for two years. I'll take a steroid. See, Barry Barnes never admitted to it. Even though Barry Barr's size hat went from a six and a half

to a nine, he still never admitted that he took the steroids. Once you get caught for me, camera, I'm not, you're not gonna be that nigga to me because I don't know how long you haven't been being having got caught you just got caught this time and if you ain't get caught you're never going to tell us that you was doing it so for me once niggas get caught i can't credit nothing they did because you could have been doing this for mad long and didn't get caught that's just me now mace made a great

point with music too niggas cheating the streams niggas used to be buying albums and all that other shit you cheated i understand what mace is coming from but when you get back you get to that audience in that stage if niggas ain't singing along we know that you cheated because nobody knows the rights you get up there you throw the mic like and there's crickets but you sold four million yeah you cheated that's the point so once you cheat me i can't fuck with it just me personally like even i still watch canello but me and me and uh sin always had that I'll be like yeah who knows if he got caught today with the steroid staker he didn't that's just me I can't do it no but that that was the point I was making even for OBJ to lie about

it he knows that like as a pure competitor he probably shared the same sentiments you share with just like cheating the game that's why he doesn't want to admit it because he understands it discrediting and that's what I'm saying like you you got caught and so uh great great point and great analogy with music yeah what I think about it is this also it is If you get caught, you don't have to admit it. We know you did it. I don't see why we need them to admit it, Mo, if he got caught. He got caught, so you did it.

It doesn't matter what you say about it. Because, you know, everybody, not everybody, but most people that are charismatic, they have a way to spin the narrative. So we don't really need to stick around for the narrative. At this point, if he comes back, he has to be exceptional. I think it puts more pressure on your arm tomorrow. when you cheat, especially with PEDs, because now everybody's watching you. It would be almost like Devin Haney fighting Ryan Garcia.

Everybody wanted to see. Now you're not on steroids, and now you're fighting like you don't want to fight. So I said that a lot of that energy came from steroids. That's what it says to the natural fan. Yes. And I really like Ryan Garcia as a fighter. Yeah. So I do want to add a quote, basically, from O'Dell Beckham Jr. during the interview.

So he said he cheated himself in ways that were harder to forgive himself, but he never cheated the system and never ran from no test. So I know that's kind of hard to believe because we've seen basically the outcome. So, but I wanted to basically ask, you're not buying it. That's like somebody being racist and saying, you know, I got black friends, right? we know you got now you got black friends we never heard you said it before I mean he has a beautiful family

so probably he never cheated that way so shout out the OBJ yeah OBB does well and does well moving forward because this is just a bad look for him okay and Murray's no I mean that's just a classic

you start to self-deprecate and you try to like curve people by saying well I did all this other bad shit but I ain't really do that That's like classic manipulation. But I put like this, when somebody lying and they started to explain too much, I was always told, the truth needs no explanation. So once you start trying to justify and throw context around, you know, what the fuck you did, like it just goes out the window.

It just shows that you line. And Kim, what do you think? He finessing. You got caught cheating and then you sit there and say, well, I never cheated the game. What are you talking about? You got caught. You wasn't going to do you finessey niggins, like that, like, like, May said it in the previous,

May said this shit, I didn't see this clip, so I'm just going off what you're reading. I didn't actually see the clip. But from what May said, Mace used a different word. He said, charismatic. You're finessing. I'm spinning.

Charismatic. Charismatic. Charismatic. this shit that nigger finesse for what I'm hearing now I never cheated the game pretty much you cheated the game when you took steroids yeah like not only that like not only that for me i take that shit a little personal if i'm another athlete especially as i know i'm bouncing back and forth we're talking about football which is a violent sport boxing too but boxing it's time's in boxing then i come from a boxing family my uncle's a trainer so i've seen a lot

this shit going boxing. I see boxing where niggas motherfucking took the, took the, um, pat and out the glove. Yeah. Bro, you're trying to, you're trying to kill me. The nigga Margarita, I'm thank God. The nigga has cement. Yeah. The nigger vaps turned into cement underneath. So you're really trying to kill me, nigga. Like, you understand? Like, when you in violent sports like that, and I know OBJ is not like a lineback or a safety or a cornerback where he gonna hit you. But at the end of the day, imagine that. Imagine, I put like this, imagine Ray Lewis on steroids. Like, nigga, somebody might die out there.

Yeah, Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons on steroids. Same thing, yeah. Like, Mike Parsons, yeah, like, Mike Parsons is a little, Michael Parsons is a little more agile, I know that. Ray Lewis is coming to hurt you, bro. Imagine, and with steroids, my nigga. Like, come on, man. I, look, I call it finesse.

Bates calls it charismaimal. It's all evil bullshit. That was good. Okay, so I want to ask you all this because Maris was basically quoting how Objay was saying that he lost discipline for himself. So to kind of just kind of put it on a positive note, Marise, how do you feel like you gain that discipline back for yourself when you feel like you've lost it? Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you go, Moe, if a niggins say he lost it, discipline this is like when you get caught cheating and you try to admit some of it a portion of it that's what i'm talking about i didn't do all of that nigger if you lost discipline then you

definitely took it right pause right that would be the what do they call it when you the motive nigger that's the motive for taking it you lost your discipline so you had to do something to get back if you lose your discipline you don't just you don't just you don't just become motivated you you need something to help you get motivated pause and and that's what he did go ahead mo my apologies no triggered me with the lion no you you're about to make my point man it's a few things i want to say once you turn 30 you start to drop the testosterone that's biologically a fact that's a male right that's one thing the second part of this is that he turned into a ladies man a sex symbol he running around with jerking he became

the coolest guy on every magazine so he got distracted he didn't keep the main thing the main thing and when you drink and party and drugging and all this other shit it takes a lot of effort to be great i don't care if his sports i don't care if his entertainment i don't care whatever it is and he couldn't do all that and while you're going to be a celebrity with all this other shit that you have going on there's defenders and teams who are trying to stop you so you start to get injured your production starts to fall down you lose the discipline then when you look up you start to say the same thing that Aaron Rogers are saying, I don't want my career to end this way.

Let me take some performance enhancing drugs to maintain a muscle mass and all this other stuff. And that's where you end up at. And I don't know the original question is that, but I got triggered off of what May said, when it said he lost discipline. He's basically telling on itself. No, yeah, it makes complete sense

why you guys are triggered. I was basically asking how do you gain that discipline back for yourself? As an athlete, he's 30-something years old. Go ahead, go ahead, Cam. I gotta take a page out of my nephew book, Mason. They gotta start jerking niggas again. Niggas is making too much money. And then they're making a wild amount of money

to where niggas gotta start, they start taking off and they're not disciplined and they not working out and all this up. They gotta go start back jerking niggers and not giving niggas all these hundreds of millions of dollars to be in and get. Because you know why, niggas won't lose discipline. when we talked about yesterday.

C.J. Straught talked about he getting old at 23. Yo, listen, man, niggas making too much chicken. I bet you if the niggas was back making 7,200 a game, the discipline wouldn't be motherfucking missing. I bet you motherfucking niggins wouldn't be tired at 23 years old. I bet you Richardson wouldn't be good running up. Two, three plays with the Indianapolis courts

talking about, yo, I'm tired, man. Yeah, yeah, they got to start jerking niggins again. They gotta start jerking niggins again. And then all these conversations. six wouldn't even be happening. That's what I take. Niggas caught too much bread too early, and now the discipline is going.

Tired, kick in. Niggers is feeling, oh, start jerking niggas again. And then at the end of the day, niggas would stop losing discipline and playing everything else is going on, period. Yeah, poor, yeah, super pause all of that. Yo, but, but, yeah, Mo, my son, to bring it to attention,

my son told me when he heard, killer freestyle he said dad i know why y'all still sound good y'all are part of the people that was getting jerked financially so y'all had to be triple good to get paid you had to make pups money and your money to seek some money so you had to be that good pause that rapping so he said said that and it made me cry so much. I had to call a killer and like killer hit in real time. I said, son, say to Kim, what you just said again? He said, yeah.

Y'all part of the generation that was getting jerked. They got to go back to jerking, niggas. I said it's too easy for you guys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And it makes sense because niggas is getting, yeah, because niggas is getting 100, million two hundred million niggas fingers is hurting so they can't come to practice their nail polish didn't come in and it's not dry yet so they're not ready to go out and warm up you got niggins on the side line going i'm just over it yeah and thank you for putting

context behind what I said because, yeah, after he told me that, I was feeling the same way because that whole ever feel good. But think about this, that's what I'm saying. When I heard the niggas say, he disciplined, listen, man, the nigga, and I always hate

like you sound like the old nigger, but it ain't my fault. I was born what I was born, and I seen what I've seen. Calm alone missed six games in 18 years. Yeah. Niggins six days in the fucking week. You know what I'm saying? Six games 18 years wasn't no discipline there wasn't no you know my finger hurt all that you know listen man

they got to go back to stop giving equal pay that's what that's what that's what that's what said yeah yeah that's even further back yeah not giving equal pay it's crazy but but that's what that's what happened people had to overachieve i think this is what made some of the black athletes as as they are. They had to overachieve. They wasn't going to get the same thing if they do the same job. They had to be that.

They had to be three times better than every other race. And I think that you even seen that what Tiger was when he first started. So, you know, he might be a profit. He might know something. Yeah. I think,

Donald Michael Jordan is a billionaire. Yeah. Sneaker brand and so on and so forth. But his NBA career, I'm talking about not endorsements or anything. I'm talking about the money he made in the NBA over his course of his career was $11 million. And at the end, he started getting the $30 million with the one-year contracts towards the end. So at the end of the day, you're sitting there,

and we're sitting there talking about $11 million for Michael Jordan, whole career, 13, 14-year career. And you're sitting there like Cal Kuzma getting $200. Come on, man. What are we doing? What are we doing? He's like, come on, my nigga.

And herringbone Mike, Heronbone Mike, pause was getting two million. When he was going crazy, 63 points, pause, tongue out from the foul line. That was, that was really just $2 million.

Yeah. That's why I don't even argue with y'all on this subject, because it's only going to get worse. Like, once a precedent starts somewhere, it just keeps going more and more. So people know that they can get money. And we want them,

and we want, And we want them to get money because I don't want them to think, you know, the next generation. We paved the waste so that people can get better, but they got to become more responsible to whom so much is given much is required. That's true. That's y'all's resilience area. That's what I'm going to call it because y'all live differently. So you view it differently. Okay.

So in another world of sports, so Connor McGregor accepted an 18-month suspension after violating the whereabouts policy under the promotions anti-doping program. So through combat sports anti-doping, McGregor missed three testing samples within a 12-month window on the days of June 13th, September 19th, and September 20th. So, Maurice, does the nature of the sport make you view this situation differently

or do you kind of view it as the same? No, it'd be the same conversation. If I talked about him, the same thing. Probably the same way Camfield. Once you, you know, once you cross that line and, you know, you start to participate with PEDs, I think your career is view, you know, fighting is fighting football football both violent in different ways but still it's all still so it's still

cheating at the end of the day and i think it's even much different i know we was talking about odell beckham junior and now we're talking about kana mcgregor but when you think about cheating the game is all is also a double jeopardy in this because and i won't say just double jeopardy but a double whatever you would call it penalty to the person that's super arrogant and we find out you're taking PDs. It's different than somebody who is humble, who we think is a hard worker versus somebody who's always running their mouths. And then we find out that some of this success may be due to you cheating the game. I think that makes people look at you extra crazy because we can't trust anything at this point. We don't know. That may be

the reason why you got so confident because maybe you thought you had an advantage on everybody so we need to go back we we got it like almost I forgot who it was like Pete Rose they just wiped all the records we that's what they may need to start doing just wipe all your wins away that'll make people stop Kim so let me I'll just heard what you said he he tested positive or he just didn't show up to take the test he didn't show up to take the test I don't know. Might have been busy.

He's got a fight coming up. He's busy. It's like, yo. So if you have to take a prenatal test, what do they call it? A pregnancy test? And, and, or blood test to prove that you're the child father, not nigger, keep not showing up for the test. You think he's busy?

No, I don't think, no baby involved. I ain't gonna say that. That's like this, I'll give you a better example, right? And I put it in music, even though I know it's not related to music. That's like saying, yo, every three months you gotta take a test because you're a musician. And if you want to go on tour, you have to take this test every three months. Why be going tour or not? And I'm like, I ain't going on tour this year.

Fuck, I'm getting ready to go fly and take this test. And I know I'm not going on tour. I'm doing what it is what it is this year. I'm not doing it. I'm not going on tour. Yo, no, I take it when I'm going to it. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, you're saying it's like, yo, my nigger, yeah.

And like, if I'm not about to have a fight, why am I got to get ready to keep taking the test all year round? I'm not about to fight, my nigga. That nigga, Conradma, has the number one whiskey in the world. If he's not about the fight and he got to take this three times a year just because it's part of the law, I get that if you're a full-time MMA, UFC, boxer, or whatever, fighter, I mean. But if I'm not in the mood to fight, I'm not, I don't feel like taking the shit.

If I'm not, like I said, back to music, yo, you can't go into him. I don't care. I'm doing something else. I'm not about to go into him. You're waiting for me with the needles. That's how I take it. I ain't going to throw him under the bus because he didn't get caught doing nothing. He just ain't show up to take the test.

But you said he didn't show up three times, right? Yeah, he didn't show up for three different, on three different dates. I don't know about the three times. Maybe the first two. I'm going to give him two, but the third one. June 13th, September 19th, and then September 20th. So it's like, okay, you didn't make this one. Oh, no, maybe he was busy.

Maybe he was busy. But. Yeah, sit back to back. Yeah. Two weeks. I was busy that whole week. Yeah. And the 19th and 20th?

Listen, man, I'm not going to disagree with your take. I'm not saying y'all are wrong, right and different. I'm just saying, accused of that shit, caught with that shit for me. I'm putting you over here. That's just that. And before I put you in that box of steroids

with everybody else, I want to just make sure you want it. I'm not going to put them in the box. Now, do we got one eyebrow? You're watching the nigga like the rock? Yeah, baby so. But I can't throw him in the box and he ain't get caught.

Just me. Fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Because I think about that. When I was going to Africa, guy to take all these shots i didn't want to take them shots i put them shots off three times i i

think about that yeah man yeah yeah you know growing up i i didn't have all my shots i grew up in the ghetto wait wait wait yeah to pay for them shots let me hold on real quick murder to add to what you're saying to add to what you're saying don't because you got to take shots when you go to africa It ain't about even going to not getting all your measles or shots. You got to take shots. I've never been to Africa because of the shots. And it's like, it's going to the shots. It's the shots and plus the money.

You can get a hundred in America. You got to give me some money I ain't getting. You got to give me some money I know I can't make in America. I got to go down and take these needles. Six shots. Nah, I can grab a hundred. No, here. 700,000 for two hours.

I'm gonna go take the needle and I come right back. You got to give me something it's worth me. Yeah. The Africa shit murder, that's a good one. Because I still, to this day, I haven't been to Africa. Yeah, I wasn't going to go. They paid, they paid me so much. I wore the whole African suit.

And let me be clear real quick, too. I've been to Africa, not to cut you a murder, I've been to Africa. But not, let me just be clear on that. I'm sorry about that. Because what I went to Africa for, I didn't have to take the shots. But if you were like murder said, when you go to Africa,

you're supposed to go take them shots and everything else. I went to Africa or some other business. That's something else to do. But I was like, nah, I gotta go take shots and all this shit to do a show. Nah, for a hundo. But yeah, murder, if you came in like Prince Akeem and somebody, I know they had the back for you, look.

They said, we pay you more, you pay, you wear a shiki. I said, how much is the she? I said, how much is the she? You know, like from the insect, like, just whatever the case may be. So it makes total sense. And then the other thing, I think everybody should go to the mother. at some point if you haven't that's what I'll add so shout out africa because if i could go you know listen that's that's why i want to be clear i've been in africa and much love to all my

people in synagogue i appreciate you much love but i'm just trying to tell you we that's why i want to be clear because we have a lot of fans in africa let's be clear about that yes and we love y'all salute y'all i was speaking more from a business mind that's why i want to be clear i was not just in africa i was not talking about downing africa i was talking about they said if you want to do a show, you have to take these shots. I was just talking about music. That was it. And yeah, I believe the same thing, Killer, about Africa.

I enjoyed myself there. The food was great. The people was great. So we're just having fun up here, but we love everybody in Africa. And thank you for all the support that you guys give this show. Okay, y'all, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss the Bengals' new move in the state of the AFC North. Don't go anywhere.

She called this thing about it's toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, baby She's tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Oh, oh dealing with this thing called trust

But she really thinking about She wants to be free Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. On Thursday, the Eagles will play the Giants. Underdog has Saquan Barclay at 85 and a half rushing yards. Do you have them higher, lower Mace? How many again? 85 and a half rushing yards. I'm going to go higher. I'm going to go higher. I think it's time. Okay. Cam. Mace, I changed my jersey. Are you comfortable with this one?

Or should I go put on another one? that was that was cool i just checking i i know you you got a problem with joe montana so i wanted change to put on the killer jersey yeah i like that jersey so you remember who you are and where you from all right cool thank you man i appreciate i just was checking makes you sure i was meeting the requirement i'm gonna go with low with saquan balkley i'm gonna go low with saquan balkley they've been you know he's due for a breakout game uh it seems like defensive defenses this defenses this season are preparing for him and he hasn't have one of those breakout games yet jalen hurts is at a hundred and ninety five and a half passing yards you have them higher or lower cam lower

yeah we're going on lower okay and jackson dart is at 175 and a half passing yards do you have them higher lower mace i really i really i really I really want to say higher, but I'm not sure. But I'm going to go higher. I'm going to give some trust to the young boy, see what they do. Okay, Cam. I'm going to go higher as well. Okay.

Make sure y'all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So some news. The Cincinnati Bengals have traded for Cleveland Browns, quarterback Joe Flacco. The Browns will also send a 2026th round draft pick to the Bengals and receive a 2026 fifth round pick in return. Maurice is going to let you go first. What do you think of this move? Well, I was actually surprised.

I heard Cam last week when he talked about Shador going down to Cincinnati, but I very much didn't see Joe Flacko going down there. So I was very surprised, but the Joe Burroughs situation must be a lot more serious than what I thought. I thought it was three to six weeks, but I just heard from somebody earlier that was three to six months. So my man, Joe Burrow, is broken up and beaten up again, but it was surprising to me to see Joe Flacco go down to Cleveland

or to leave Cleveland and go down to Cincinnati in the same division. I think this is a power move, actually. I think this is one of those plays that could turn around and be dangerous. And I hope so for the for statinum case, you know. Statenham. Yeah, I really, I really hope so. I hope Flacco go over there and turn up, bring Ohio back. you know and because they're not far away from where they need to be so if he goes then and

have any type of career i mean season like he's had in some of the formal years this could be really interesting yeah before i get before i get my take i want to ask that a question but you mean you ain't worried about him flacco ain't like they ain't good enough you're not worried about it at this moment right now i am not worried about y'all oh remember at the remember at this moment. Remember that. That is fine. That is fine. It's always at this moment. I don't have a reason. I do not have a reason to worry.

We'll see how you guys play in your next game. He got just as many Super Bowls as Aaron Rogers. And we'll see how Aaron Rogers plays in his next game. That's fine. You're only as good as your last game. So as what we've seen right now, I'm not worried. I'm not worried. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, she's absolutely correct, but what I'm going to do is Taylor, Nick, let's get a, let's, I'm going to get a highlight reel of stat flip-flopping for seasons.

Disrespecting our own team. I'm going to make it my personal job to get a highlight reel of you. Disrespecting your own team. Sam, after season after season. What hat were you wearing last week? What team was that? My eagle's hat? Okay.

But the Eagles at? No, that was for Mace because he was on some commander shit. That was just truly for Mace. The thing that fuck that whole shit up, to be honest with you, because he said he supported it and I got mad. He didn't get mad. So that's what I was mad he wasn't mad about the shit. So that's why the next day I went out of my bang with shit.

But as far as this is concerned, this is what I really think. Like, I thought about this. When I said Chador going to Cincinnati, I was serious. I thought that would be a great move. But to me, this is more or less my personal opinion. First of all, now we got Chador QB2 with the brand. So, you know, I don't wish injury or hurt or anything or anybody. But God forbid something happens to Dylan Gabriel.

Shador is in. Next bad play. He's up and ready to go. I don't know that Chador. the reason I wanted him to go to Cincinnati is because I thought that he would play exceptionally well, not saying exceptionally well, I'd just saying that he would have did better what Brown and been doing the last couple weeks. And it may not have been that long and then you don't want to spend the rest of your time sitting behind Joe Burrough. Joe Burroughs decides to

get healthy consistently. I thought he could show out for a few weeks, teams say, okay, he could play and he'll be there the rest of the season and maybe get a starting job next week. I think this is fantastic for the Cincinnati Bengals because Browning, look, my nigger, I set you up. I threw you to alley up, alley up under a room like this. Well, all you gotta just do is just run and jump and dunk it. I didn't even throw this shit from half court. You didn't follow through.

And I think that the Cincinnati Bengals are bringing somebody in like Joe Flacco, because they say, at least with him, if we get the 500, but Tom, Joe Burroughs gets back, That's all we need. With Browning, we're seeing a, you know, we already said the ship is thinking, I don't know what under the ocean,

but that's where the fuck Browning was taking, it's past the ocean. I think Joe Burroughs can maintain till Joe, pardon me, till Joe Burroughs gets back. I didn't notice information that Moe was telling me about. I was thinking about the six weeks, and they was basically saying, okay, cool, let this nigga get us to five and five

and let this nigga Joe Burroughs come back. I didn't know that that's all they need. They get his five and five and let Joe Burrow finish out this motherfucking last seven games and see what we can do. That's what I thought the Cincinnati Bengals, my state is, my personal opinion. Okay. So now I want to ask you guys his opinion on this quote from Shador, because it's like anytime something happens with the team,

then it's like, Shador, what do you think? Like that's exactly how the mic goes. So he said after learning the news, he was definitely somebody I leaned on for wisdom. I feel like he helped me a lot during his time here in Cleveland. everyone has their own destiny and their own plans they have in life i'm just happy for him so marie after hearing that from chador what do you think of what he had to say oh man i just think it's an honorable thing i'm pretty sure joe flacco you know he probably knows he's at a point in his career

where he's not competing against chador so he was probably just trying to be a good mentor just giving him you know all the information and tricks to the trade you know if he went to the super bowl with the with the ravens so i'm pretty sure there was a lot that he had to give to the young guy but I'm pretty sure that Shador is also happy that he's going, and he's one step closer to what's going on with Dylan Gabriel. And I know that he's seeing what Dylan Gabriel did last week against the Vikings. And I know he's saying to himself that, you know, by the time I get my opportunity,

there will be no one else that would be talking about Joe Flacco, possibly Deshaun Watson, or Dylan Gabriel. So he can't do anything but go up. And so I'm excited for Shador, you know, because I know at some point Dylan Gabriel won't perform how they expect him and Chador get his shot and hopefully during his time he's done enough to take advantage of the opportunity

when it comes his way. Yeah, I'm also happy about the way that Chador responded last week when we were talking about Shador's responses. This is the type of response that I was expecting because this is the type of response that'll move them forward much, much faster. And I also want to say, Statt,

you were this excited last season around this time, last season about the Steelers you were excited about them this same way last season so i hope you keep that that same excitement out okay i'm gonna support my team regardless i can still be frustrated but no you i just thought about it you were really excited last year around this time and um i forgot the quarterback that was in and you you were really excited and just and then we went to Russell Wilson. Yep.

Yeah. Things, and y'all was happy. And you was happy that Russell Wilson got there because y'all was like, oh, Justin Fields is not throwing a ball

up the field. He's running and all that. But then you was happy. Russ came and started throwing a ball. Then you started going on that losing street and then you start talking about his height. It's all good. Well, yes.

Because that is true because Russell Wilson did open up our offense and then I noticed something was wrong there. And I figured out what the problem was. We got to start holding your accountable, stat. You're older now. Nah. No. I'm in the highlight real together,

murder. Don't even worry about it. I'm getting a highlight real together. I'm getting pop a stat. Yeah, you're not new anymore. We got to start all of your accountable stat. No, that's fine. I'm just calm right now because I'm in a really good spot right now. Okay. That's all. I'll just wait. And then, Cam, your thoughts on Shador's quote.

Listen, first of all, before we go to Shador quote, back to you, stat. murder this is what I'm talking about this is what I'm saying like yo niggas niggas niggas is happy

because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan ain't playing yo you have no Lamar Jackson and you got no Joe Burr you're like ooh like look we get it some injuries going to happen but if you really feel good

about beating up on on little kids because nobody's playing I'm just I'm exaggerating but come on man come on you got let's be serious The top two quarterbacks in the division is not playing. But it is what it is because you like murder said,

last year this song, it was all good and happy. Mike Tomlin, another victory of 500 wins. I see it coming. You were happy about Gig Browning two weeks ago. Like, things change. It is okay. No, no, no, no. Let's let's differentiate happy and motivational.

Okay, now we're using Mesa's words. Now we're using two different words for definitions. That doesn't make sense. You're a killer is wilder right now. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. Mesa's not on the word motivational. That's not what I'm saying. No, that's not what I'm saying.

Because now it's, now it's motivational. Because I gave a speech, I told the nigger, look, Tom Brady, I heard. I mean, not Tom Brady. What's my nigga who got hurt before who was playing? Drew Bledso got hurt. Tom Brady came in. Drew Breslo got hurt again. Tony Bremont came in.

Even Jimmy Garabolo got a shot because Tom Brady got hurt. I was laying out scenarios for him. Yo, Mo, let me ask you this since you can be non-biased. Who the fuck would be happy Joe Borrow's is hurt? Does that even make sense? Like, what are we talking about? You was happy Browning was playing. Fuck, why the fuck would I be happy?

Joe Burrow, top three quarterback in the league, is hurt. So you can talk about I'm using motivational word because you think it may sound religious, but it's just the word motivational stack. That's all it is. That's all I'm saying. I tried to get a thing to motivational speech. That's all I'm saying.

Now, back to the speech real quick. What's the door says, comments, pardon me, not the speech. The door comments with May said, this was very much on point. I thought it was sensational comeback. I thought it was really, really good. But you know, to me, and listen, you know,

this is my family when we talk about this, so it's kind of close to the home for me. When Shador said everything he needed to say, opposed to what he said last week, Mace is 100% correct in my opinion on this was the answer you posed to get. But let me ask you guys this Mo Mace and stat too. Did you all see what Dion said today?

yesterday for me i didn't see it no no they asked dion about joe burrow going to cincinnati and dion answer was i don't give a i'm i'm put a little emphasis on because he didn't curse he said i don't give a fuck what's going on in cleaver he said exactly he said exact words was i don't give a damn what's going on to cleaver i don't care about what's going on over there i do love me some shador sanders though but as far as i don't care what they doing over there and to me that and i'm never going to go against big brother dion you know i love him but to me that's part of shoulda say something then dion be a dion like whatever i don't give a fuck and that kind of overpowers to me what should

door said correctly my personal opinion you know what i got to give i got to put some more respect on even more respect on deon's foresight because coach prime was saying this a year ago he was saying I'm not letting my son just go to any team. You remember that statement? Now that makes, it makes more sense in hindsight that he knows the games that people will try to play with you. Like, they're making this to where he's going to get in after two other people fell. And it's really, that's not the way this was supposed to roll out.

This guy, and I got to keep this out there, he was supposed to be a top five pick, at least the top five so then he ends up in the fifth round this this is going to turn this is going to turn into a real crazy story after he plays well because i'm really expecting him to do really well when they finally put him in the game but i'm just thinking back to what dion was saying it just dawned on me just now the dion was like no i'm not just i'm his father he's not going to just any old team now we know what he was talking about sometime you don't know until you see it yeah And to Shador's point, it's all part of the journey, so we'll see how it unfold. So I'm definitely excited for him, and now we'll get to see what happens.

Okay, so UNC football has scrap plans for their Hulu documentary after their two and three start. The series was set to follow UNC for the entire season, but we've been seeing how that has been going downhill for UNC. So, Maurice, why do you think Bill Belichick is struggling so much on the college level with this school? Yeah, I think it's two fronts. I think Bill drastically underestimated how tough the college game was. I think from an arrogant standpoint, he probably has so much success in the NFL that he probably thought he could halfway prepare. He can bring just guys who had more experience than college guys down.

And they probably just didn't understand the dynamics, to enter workings, the recruiting, and everything that goes into just, you know, building a successful program. And him, him out of all people, looks like he's the most distracted. And just to think about what he was doing in New England. We heard about the Patriot way, the New England way, and all the stuff and the culture he had built up there for so many years. It's like polar opposite when he's come down to North Carolina, what he's doing. And so I just think it's that, you know, he's not focused.

The coaches' staff is a group of his kids, his sons, and people who have inherited jobs when you talk about nepotism and all of that stuff that goes along with it. And he's just not focused. You know, sometimes people really believe. or they underestimate, like, how much work it really takes to be great at anything. I think that may be the biggest thing that people do. People talk about doing great things, but there's a ton of work that goes into being great, and I just don't think that same thing is on display down in North Carolina.

Yeah, I don't have much to say about this, but what I would say is this. When you work so hard, the garner is such attention and such accolades. This is just a poor way to go out. That's all I'm going to say. It's horrible. Can I ask you a question really quick before Cam goes? So do you feel like he shouldn't have went on to coach? No, I don't think he should have went to coach college football because, and probably in his mindset,

he's not thinking that college football could do anything for him. He has already won on the highest level. It's like those times when I would see coaches who have. coached in the NBA and then they go to coach college. Yes, they can coach college, but it's a large part of this is like, what am I proven here? And anything you do, you want to make it to the highest level and you want to perform at the highest level. So when you're sent back to the lower level, it's almost like probably like a money grab.

You don't really need it. But maybe it put them around the young ladies. He becomes a zatti. Sam, what are your thoughts? My opinion is this that they should finish the documentary, show this bitch fucking up Bill Belichick shit and get their money worth. Look, the doc going to go if that's the narrative. You sit there and see this bitch coming down at halftime on a 50-yard line talking to this nigger. Everything going on, they're not winning games.

She followed them back to the crib. That's the documentary. You'll probably make more on the documentary. following that story than just trying to follow the football story you know you're not going to lose fans are leaving the halftime clumson was blowing them out last weekend fans was walking out the fucking arena in the middle of the second quarter document all that so when you can this nigger you can be like this is why we can the nigger the fucking bitch was fucking up everything and this ain't what u s football is about USC y'all missing a great opportunity netflix would pick this up immediately okay so another question just oh go ahead marries no i wanted to add this to remember he was cold for like a year or two where he couldn't get a job and i think he did this just to stay active in coach and i think that was part of it so that's just my two cents where did he find the girl at um do we know where they met not the girl at do you do we know where he met her um it's saying that they met on a flight

Man From Massachusetts to Florida That's what they're telling people That's what I was thinking, Mo I didn't want to jump to no conclusions You know, then killer going to ask me How do I know that? But just my spider sense are going off, you know? The boots, you know, the shorts, you know?

Yeah, recreation, man. Yeah, I'm reading it. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty crazy. That is what they're telling people. So my question to y'all is because I'm curious on how it like looks. I mean, we're seeing how it looks and how it's playing out, but I'm curious on how it looks to other people. So if you guys were the football director out of college, right,

and Bill Belichick say he was not coaching it, North Carolina right now, and he was looking for his next opportunity. Would you hire him like to give him another chance or just no because of what he's done at the school so far, Maris? no i would just be over it man um like i think like mace made a great point where like some people have just done what they came to do in the sport and i think that's why a lot of jams in the NFL was like you know he's done what he's came to do he's you know he's done everything and we don't want for he's 73 we don't want him to try to rebuild what he did in new england because

it takes too long you have to build a culture and the people and everything and there's a lot of young young coaches who are good and you give new people the chance and maybe he could have said in some like advisory role some consulting role but you know sometimes people just stay around too long and sometimes it's just not meant for you to sit around in the same space in the same capacity and you have to pass the torture somebody else and just play a different role and so i think that's what it is with uh what bill you know as you get older uh but you may not realize that you know your your time and that space is gone yeah and you got to leave before they they they kick you out that's that's another thing he's gonna have to learn you got to leave before they

kick you out. It's on you, Keller. And the exact question is that I answered correctly? Yeah. So if you were a football director at a college right now, say, you know, it was past North Carolina, would you hire Bill Belichick or no? You'd just be over it.

No, I wouldn't hire him because the thing about it is this. My opinion is Mo made a great point. He didn't want to go to college. There's no NFL teams that were biting and they grabbed the nigger paws. And so I get it. You know, some people self energy. Bill Belichick works out

every day, energetic, and still able to be out there and coached because, you know, to coaching to me is harder than being a player. You have to be there before the game. You have to be there after the game. You have to draw plays for the game. It takes a lot to be a head coach.

And the thing about it is a great area for me because we know how much of an asshole pause he was as a head coach in New England. And that's whether you get, you cut, after Tom Brady has his best season as being a quarterback, 50 touchdowns, but you cut Randy Morris. You cut West Welker. You know, you did a lot of things just being controlling. I call it

a power trip. When niggas be on a power trip, just to say, I don't care if shit is going right. This, he got to go my way. Even though it was going right for a long time, but he just came to a hay where fingers it's power tripping like, oh, if it ain't my way, I'd rather fuck the whole shit up, then have it just go the right way. And I think that's where Belichick ended at in New England, even to these latest report the last couple years, how him and Robert Kraft wasn't getting along. He's like, man, y'all too wasn't even on the same page. Some niggas don't even be really speaking to each other when they be in the same room.

They give you the brother man, one of these, like, yo, what's up? Like, they ain't went mad chips together. Then you get to the college scenario, back to what Mo said again. look the age disparity is crazy I don't know what kind of Bill Belichick is in college but if it's anything as the coach of the New England Patriots that mentality is not going to work with these young kids who's getting NIL money and not only that

they might be like this old nigger telling me what to do with this bitch my age the respect level may not be there for him as a coach in college so I would be done with it as far as college is concerned because it's too big of an age gap trying to, you know, work with these kids. I said, we sit there and watch Nick Saban. Nick Saban, you know, probably the best college coach ever.

Nick Saban got out the game, my personal opinion, because he's seen what was going on with NIL, and he didn't have control no more. And what I mean by that was saying, you got, I remember the year Nick Saban left, it was a kid getting a million a year. I can't remember his name. And he did he bopping on in the, in the,

and to practice, like, I made a mill this year. You know, y'all niggas might have made 10,000 other players, so on and so forth to where even Nick Saban got into beef with Dionne Sanders. Yeah. They're giving the best players a million dollars to stand the third. He realized, okay, this is about to be out of my control. I'm getting the fuck out of it because I'm not going to be able to manipulate these kids and say, and I won't use it as manipulator.

That's the one word to use. I don't know exactly the right word to use right now, but basically, Basically, he had to choke hole on basically saying, you know you fuck with me. You go to the NFL and get that chicken, nigger. So do this this way if you want to get to the NFL. Look how many players I had in the NFL. But then you got niggas making money like, yeah,

I'm getting what they're getting them. So all that shit you're talking. And Nick Saving and say, you know what? I'm leaving for niggins start talking to me crazy like that. Before niggas start talking to me crazy, let me get the fuck out. And I think that's why people like, Nick Saban left out. You had a bunch of coaches that left out.

You had Coach K leave out. You had Jim Behan leave out, even though I know we're talking about basketball college coaches, but they seen where NIL was going. And these are coaches over the year that would sit there and tell you, you do this this way, you'll make it pro, whether it be NFL and B, whatever. Do things my way, you make it pro, and you can't use that gaffle right now. Yeah. I would be done with it.

No, I'm just saying the influence is built off of their name versus. all this other stuff that's what he's saying and um once the n i'll came into the picture and money came into the picture their names became less influential in regards to you know just god and these kids are influencing them yeah because they needed the money i mean they needed the name to make the money now that i'm getting the money i don't i don't care about your name and another thing that i think is tumultuous is what killer was just saying is that he's dating the women that's the same age is probably the people that the players are dating so they see them as a competitive they may see them as a peer and that's probably why he doesn't have control over

the locker room yeah I'll add to that I just think it's a number of things too yeah she I don't I don't even think she sees herself on the level as the other kids I think she's like look I'm here if I tell y'all to do something you all have to do it too I don't know exactly her involvement but that's just the way that it's been looking through a lot of thing so hopefully Bill finds out but he's happy that's why I'm just

he's happy he's happy losing that's crazy happy losses I don't know let's the other the mediocrity the mediocrity

mindset killer I hear it now yeah he's happy he's losing he said he's I mean hey man hopefully he figures it out but y'all

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