IT IS WHAT IT IS - Tatum's Return, Trae Young's Debut In DC & A Pimp Basketball Coach Is WILD!
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It is what it is.
I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam.
Killer was good, man.
What's good, bro. How you doing?
You're chilling, man.
Chilling, chilling, chilling.
How you all doing, Statt? How you doing?
I'm good. I've been working out, doing yoga.
Like, we're on a routine. It's good.
You working out?
Yeah.
That's good. It's good. It's fun when you enjoy to do it.
So, yeah, glad to see y'all.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Gonna get into some basketball.
So it's finally confirmed.
Jason Tatum will play this season, and he's expected to make his return today versus the map.
So Mace, how do you think he'll fit back into the rotation?
How do you see this goal?
Man, I'm just excited for basketball, realistically.
If he comes out and he plays anywhere remotely close to how he's normally playing,
this should be a phenomenal season.
I look forward to two.
MVP's, man. If he, if he come back even close to Tatum rare form, this is going to lead to two
MVPs for Jalen Brown. So I'm happy for that. I'm happy for his success. And I'm happy for
Elam and the whole Tatum and everybody else that's a part of this. You know, when he wins,
the whole family wins. So shout out to him and the whole St. Louis. And I wish him none but at best.
I hope we have a really strong recovery. And I hope.
hope he plays even better than he did before.
Oh, he looked, man, this is, further of all, congratulations coming back so quick
less than 10 months after the injury.
We can't expect a lot from him in this first few games.
I think Joe Missoula is a really, really great coach, and he'll use Jason Tatum wisely,
pause as far as his minutes are concerned and working him back into rotation.
I think this is a great time to come back.
because think about it, it's 19, 20 games left in the season.
This way you're not rushing back to come into the playoffs and say,
after perform well for the playoffs.
This gives you a nice sample size of what's left.
You know, basically you're saying you have 20% of the season left.
So therefore, you don't have to do too much, even though right now,
you don't have to do too much.
Worson's in second place.
Jalen Brown is looking really, really good.
And like I said, shout out to Joe Magula again for the phenomenal job
that he's been doing coaching.
actually my coach of the year if I had to vote right this second for the job he's doing
considering all of the things that transpired in the offseason for the Celtics.
But I think this is not a better time than right now to see where Jason Tatum's at,
what he could do, and we're nowhere near the playoffs.
Not saying we're far away from the playoffs, but we're pretty close to the playoffs
and working them back in that rotation to be great.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jason Tatum doesn't even start tomorrow or start the next few games,
Just get them back in the field of the game, running up and down.
You know, it's one thing practicing.
It's another thing playing game speed.
So congratulations to him.
But this will really tell us where Boston is at when the playoffs come around.
As far as the East Coast is concerned, we're talking about the East Coast.
Nobody has more championship experience than the Boston Celtics team right now.
So this puts them in a great spot currently right before the playoffs start.
So, Mace, you kind of made a face when he said that would be his pick for a coach of the year.
Do you disagree?
I just, you know, I just need us to stay on topic of what we're talking about, you know.
It is early in the morning, you know, and I just need us to stay on topic, you know.
Now, you put LMA in it, bro.
If you don't have no substance to your take, I don't, I can't help that you have any substance.
I don't know, if we're going to stay on topic, I don't know what LMA has to do with it.
I suck everything basketball.
I don't know what his family and LMA have to do in anything.
If we're staying on topic, I was just trying to figure it out.
I kept the sports.
I just didn't see if Nick was going to throw the bubble at the top.
Yeah, Nick, you don't like that bubble, man.
Nick throw the bubble up
I told Nick
He can't do it now
He can't do it now
I told Nick that he might get
Doc behind that
So don't do it anymore
I told him
I told him behind the scene
Don't do it
Hey Nick
So this is what I like Nick
If you're gonna put his as a thumb up
When I speak
Just put a thumb down on the bubble
That would be great
I'm looking for more dislikes it's easy.
I'm going to reach out the IG and see if they can make a dislike button.
I want a dislike button.
I want a thumbs down on my button.
That would actually be cool, right?
Instead of Nicky's saying they just put a dislike button.
No, because we're not.
We don't even have dislike buttons now and people already hate a lot.
So I just think that would make things worse.
I think that would cut down the bullying, though.
You just hear a dislike button, you know, they ain't.
Well, to me, I mean, and I know Mace made a made of face,
but J.B. Bickerstaff and Joe Missoula, I don't know, just,
I know it's a little bit off topic, but those two come to mind as far as coaches of the year.
know, to me, just the pistons and the Celtics,
I don't think either one I'm expected to be where they're at.
Who do you think, Mason?
I know this is off topic.
Who would you have for, like, your coach of the year right now?
No, I like, I actually like Joe Missoula.
I was just doing that to keep everybody on their toes, you know?
That's great.
That's great.
Every now and then you got to throw a rock in the water, you know?
That's great.
Make sure there's no alligators in their stat.
You notice you from Jacksonville?
You got to throw a rock in the water.
You can't just assume.
Not from the alligators.
You stay far away and they tell you go zigzag or go straight now so they can't see you with the nose.
I don't know nothing about rock.
I wasn't throwing no rocks in the water.
Yeah, they tell you to throw, if you live by a swampy area, throw a rock in the water.
It's going to let you know if you see the water move like.
See, I don't need to figure it out.
I would not want to figure it out like that.
That's what you would.
So confirmation you would choose Joe Manzo.
You didn't make a face.
So I was like, if you have another coach, this is a great conversation.
Well, we can't go with Mike Brown.
We know this.
We know we can't go with Mike Brown.
But definitely, who's coaching Detroit right now?
That would be not.
Jay Bicketts staff.
Yeah, Biggest staff will be my coach in the year right now.
Okay.
He's in first place.
Okay.
So talked about first place and you guys made some really good points about the Celtics as a whole.
And this is going to be a continuing conversation.
But now that we know Jason Tatum is confirming back,
makes this think this makes the Celtics the biggest threat in the NBA as a whole,
not even just East versus Less.
No, no, I'm not going the biggest threat.
You'll be putting 10 on 20 for real.
Like, we can't give them the biggest threat in the whole NBA, right?
You still got Wimby out there.
You can't put an injured returning Tatum over Wend.
And you can't put them over.
She if She comes back healthy.
Because they are the champs until somebody dethrone them, right?
So that's where I come from.
They're the champs until somebody dethrone them.
They're on top of, they're making their way to Titletown.
If they get another one this year, we haven't heard of Title Town.
But we're going to look into that.
If they win this year, then they'll be officially in Title Town.
You got to win more than one.
You have to win more than one.
Now, I know they didn't like my take last year, and that led to some.
injuries because you can't go against the godfather of title town it just doesn't work like that
that it doesn't it doesn't pan out well it never does but i would say they're not the biggest threat
the biggest threat is still okayc and right after that is it's the san antonio spurs did you say in the
NBA or the east coast NBA yeah yeah in the NBA no on the east coast yes if
the other thing about this,
I'm really interested
and I can't wait for this game tonight
because I think it's a great game to come back
for, you know,
Dallas isn't really
where we thought Dallas would be,
even with Cooper Flagg.
We've seen the trades go on.
Kyrie still isn't back.
So I think this is a good test.
But it's, oh, that's why I bought up Joe Manzula
when I bought up Jason Tatum,
because it's him, it's him who's going to have to,
so to answer the question,
the question is no, they're not the biggest threat.
But just giving them a little bit more detail
about Boston.
You have to think about,
that's why I bought up Joe Missoula.
We don't imagine how good they're doing
and then you get Jason Tatum back in the line of them
and it doesn't go right, right?
Because it's not the chemistry that they had all year
would not be the chemistry that they have in the last 20 games.
So let's say, for instance,
you get Jason Tatum back and not wishing no bad on them
and you go 10 and you go 2 and 8 in your next 10 games.
You're like, wait a minute, what's happening here?
The chemistry isn't right.
Not saying that you don't use Jason Tatum.
That's not what I'm saying.
You got Jason Tatum available.
You play Jason Tatum.
I'm just talking about the chemistry of the team that they have so far this season has been working.
So that's why I'm so interested in seeing how Joe Manzula uses him paused again
because it may not go right now.
I think he's a phenomenal coaching.
He'll definitely put him in the best position to,
succeed but i think if it goes right they're the biggest threat on the east coast because of the
championship experience but in the NBA no not the biggest threat in the NBA yeah and even if
they go five for five right it's still it's still not as good as they've been playing i don't
think they they have the ability to take a step back with this with this east coast the way it is
they they get down the third and four place it changes
is everything moving forward.
So I think that's something they have to keep in mind.
So you're definitely right.
I just think it would be kind of weird bringing Jason Tatum off the bench,
but that might be something to consider.
I mean, even when LeBron came back, he came off the bench.
I just think that they're going to monitor his minutes.
Not saying that he's a fucking star.
They put LeBron in the G League for like a week.
You know, just about to me getting there.
And, you know, Stanema, that's the word I'm looking for.
Four game standemar back together.
I'm not, no way in shape, form saying that Jason Tater isn't a starter and an all-star for that matter.
I'm just thinking about Stannema, that's it.
But you may be correct, but that's just my opinion that he wouldn't start.
But who knows, we'll see.
Yeah, I need that jersey.
Whoever got that jersey, LeBron jersey in the G-League is fire.
Okay, so now on to the Spurs.
We were discussing one, and be a little bit, but the Spurs beat the Pistons,
121 to 106, and the Pistons have actually not beaten the Spurs yet this season.
So, Mace, does this cause concern?
Or do you think, you know, pistons are just fine.
What do we think?
Well, we know whoever comes out of the East is mainly probably just getting to the championship
to lose it, right?
I don't think the champs come out of the East.
Unless it's Boston.
Unless it's Boston, I don't think anyone has the pedigree to win the championship.
Even if they make it there, right?
I don't think they beat OKC.
To be OKC, you're really going to have to be flying on all cylinders.
Now, the Knicks could do it, but as of right now, they don't look like they can.
So it doesn't matter at this point who comes out of the east unless it's Boston.
If it's not Boston, it's a repeat for the West Coast.
is a repeat.
I don't put too much stock into it.
You know, they only play each other twice a year.
They're not in the same coast.
So, you know, it's something to think about, absolutely.
But I think bigger than that,
and I don't want to brush this game off
like it doesn't mean anything.
Because you only see them play against each other twice a year.
You got two young rising stars
and Kay Cunningham and Wemby and a young team in San Antonio
that looks like they want it now.
Whether they get it now,
another story. I think a bigger story or topic is that OKC is four and one, pardon me, one and four
against the spurs. And that's the, that's what I'm paying attention to, that they play five
times and OKC has lost four times out of the five times. We sit there and we're supposed to say,
you know, we got these two seven-foot giants when we're talking about Chet and we're talking about
Wemby, and Wembe's just looking like he's
dominated the league. It was a time when I remember
watching Chetton High School, and he was
the stuff for Curry's camp, and they was like, he's going to
be the next one. He got hurt
that first year when he got to the NBA, and it kind of became
Shea Gilder's Alexander team, and he
played second fiddle. I remember
they were saying that that was going to be his team,
and he fit in great second fiddle.
Tremendous, but we don't see it night in and night out.
They played against the Knicks. I'm talking.
talking about OKC the other night, and he looked tremendous.
You know, 28 points.
I forget how many rebounds he had, but he looked really good.
And that's what's going to happen, because when I watched the Knicks play,
OKC the other night, Mike Brown whole strategy was double team shape.
Soon as Shane took one dribble over half court, the double team was coming.
And he had to get rid of the ball, even though he still finished with 26 points,
only seven shots from the free throw, which was amazing, considering he was
double team, 85 to 90% of that game, other players are going to have to step up because even
though the Knicks won lost that game, pardon me, they beat them in every statistical category,
whether it's time of possession, whether it's rebound and whether assists, everything but points.
So other teams may look at that and be like, yes, that's it.
Soon as she gets over to half court, double team, double team him now.
Let's keep in mind, Jay Deb hasn't been playing and we're not knowing when he's coming back from
that hamstring injury.
but at the end of the day, this may be the success
because teams are going to say,
we're not going to let you beat us, Shay.
Let Chet beat us.
Let Dort beat us.
Let J. Dub beat us.
Let Caruso beat us.
Let horses.
You're not going to be the one.
So I'm really interested in seeing Chet step up
because this was supposed to be the battle for years to come.
Not Shea and Wembe.
It was supposed to be Chet and Wemby.
And right now, Wemby is not even in the back,
the conversation with Chuck.
Wemby's in the conversation with being the best in the NBA.
So 4-1, the Spurs are against OKC.
So I think that's something more to watch than Denver and the Spurs.
Okay.
So also regarding this Spurs Pistons game,
so Wembe had 38.16 rebounds, three assists, and five blocks.
And we're going to see how we feel,
especially as the season continues.
And I know we're saying that he's looking like the best in the NBA,
Are you guys ready to confirm that or you feel like somebody else is right up there, Mace?
I believe at this point he's making his way.
I'm not ready to crown him as the king pause of the NBA.
Right now, he's making his way there.
He's putting up the same numbers that Joker is putting up.
Joker in that one game, but Joker does it every night.
Every night, Joker have that same stat sheet, every single night.
So I'm not ready to say that he's the, um,
The king of the NBA.
Not just yet.
I can't do that.
Even with all the new hotness out there, I can't do it.
Because, like we said, Joker is doing it night after night.
These same numbers.
Joker might have 50 and 10.
He might have 40 and 15, right?
So these numbers are not abnormal for a center in the West Coast.
Welcome to the party, Wembe.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a minute.
But I think what I do like about Wemby this season for some reason,
I see the look in his eyes paused that he really wants it.
Like, you know, I'm not saying he didn't have it before anything like that.
This season, you could tell he wants it.
Even from the All-Star game, when he said,
you see him really wanting to win and taking the All-Star game seriously.
And then you see him dunking on people and made, rah, yelling in their face.
You know, last year we seen that, but then he would walk to the line after he gets fed.
You know, now he's ditty bopping to the line.
And he's young, he has some time.
He's not there yet, but I do like the attitude that he's bringing to the table.
I'm not sure if it was him in the offseason going to sit down with the monks over the summer
and still instilling that, yo, you that nigger attitude in him, but that's the attitude I see.
You know, he's averaging 23 and a half points.
Yeah, he's with the monks all scene, cut his hair off all that shit.
You know, so he's averaging 23 and a half points, a little over 11 rebounds.
He's averaged in a double-double.
I do like the attitude.
It's not his league yet.
It could be, but the attitude, I like it a lot.
But now, not yet.
Yeah, I was going to bring up the haircut.
I didn't know he got it from the monks.
I thought he was going in a new direction, a fresh start, you know.
No, he's with the monks over the summer.
and spent time with them
niggas and came back this
I'm that nigger attitude
so, you know, I don't know
what they instilled in them, but I like it, pause.
Yeah.
We need to send some more niggas
with the monks.
Yeah, that's what happened.
Maybe that would be our necktake.
Who do we need this thing with the monks?
We need to send Joe L&B with the monks.
Yeah.
Maybe he needs his hair cut off,
man.
who else?
George, the whole sixes.
We're sitting all those sixes with the monks
this summer. Yes.
Do you got anybody's stat?
You think we need to add to the
sin with the monks there's summer?
With the monks, you said, the six years
you said, Mbid,
Jaw, we would love to see
him.
Where he needs to be.
And that's like, you know when somebody
really needs to lock in because you know
with the monks would be crazy.
Jail with the monks would be crazy.
Just being a fly on the wall with Jail with the monks would be wow.
Jai with the monks and he wear that robe and the pistol form on the floor?
Crazy.
Jai with the monks will be wild.
Killer, who's somebody you think needs to go to monks this summer?
Just on top of my head, probably Zion as well.
That should be a series.
Like, they do the starting five.
Like, I would rather watch that, watch people get back into.
Yeah, man.
Nah, they can't put Zion with the monks.
He might see the Asian girls walking fast.
He'll be good.
They'll be a lot.
And then they would be competitive against each other
because they want to see who can be the most locked in.
Like, that would be a whole.
thing. Or that might be the new thing now that they saw Wembe, you know how it goes.
Somebody have success with something. Next summer, somebody else is going with the monks.
I remember people was trying to work out with Kobe. Then you see more people working out with
Kobe. You're like, man, Kobe got a summer camp. Then when you turn around, you saw Russell
Westbrook. You saw, you saw D-Books. You saw a book there. Then you
saw Kai Rhee, you're like, oh, Kobe is even training point guards. But then you see Tatum,
you know, a lot of people came out of that Kobe school, the school of Mumba. And now, look at
them now, they're doing exceptionally well. And I would say the same thing is true. If it gets out
there that people was doing this with a Lajuan, then people was trying to work on their post game
with a Lodgewarn. So now the monks is just a new thing to do. And I like this for the NBA. I
think more people need to get focused.
So even though we're joking a little bit,
the names we named would be hilarious with the monks,
especially job with the monks will be phenomenal.
Zion probably wouldn't go.
He wouldn't go.
It would be a whole mental shift.
Yeah, I don't think we would.
I think he would.
You know, he had his little interview.
He said, like, he really does want to play basketball.
If you're serious, you're going to do...
Yeah, go with the monks.
That might be...
I think it was realistic.
If it was realistic,
they need to set up shop over here
because I don't think everybody's going to go where
whenby went.
Because Wendy went to the home in the mountains.
That's where you got to go.
That's where you got to go to get this serene, you know?
Yeah, but I'm talking about you set up in.
That was, that's what a stat said.
When the stats said that, that would be such a,
it would really be a dope series if you try to, you know,
put it in the mountains.
of Colorado and niggas leave to go get wings.
You know what I'm saying?
That would be a great serious step.
I'll watch it.
And nobody better take that idea because you know how you start saying stuff
and the things start popping up and it's like, oh, inspired by da-da-da-da-da.
Like, that's exactly how things go.
So we'll see.
Okay, so on to Trey Young.
So he actually made his debut for The Wizards versus.
the Jazz. The Wizards lost 122 to 112, so obviously we know that this was one game.
But, Mace, how do you predict things to kind of pan out for Trey Young, his career and
like what he's doing with the Wizards?
I think, I think Tray Young is going to be phenomenal with the Wizards, right?
I think his, his legacy might be even bigger in the D.C. area, right?
because D.C. is filled with so many A.U.
teams and young guards and short guards, right?
So he becomes like this spokesperson and this phenomenon that little kids can follow.
I think he would be the most relatable point guard that has ever played other than Mugsy Bowl in the city of D.C.
I think it would be that much a blessing to the city.
And I know Trey Young is going to show up.
You know, just the other day they had my boy,
Sharif Cooper, getting 18 points.
So I know, I know Trey Young is about to go crazy.
I don't know.
Like I said, as far as his legacy is concerned,
it's hard to say.
What I would do is this if I ought to witness.
This is what I would do.
And I'm just talking, I'm not answering the question I write,
because my answer is I'm not sure about where his legacy goes
and everything else because you got to think about this, right?
we're thinking about
when you think about
when you think about Tray Young
you think about what you thought
was about to happen as far as
the Atlanta Hawks organization
it looked like he was about
they'd be the East Coast Steph Curry at one point
pulling up from half
I remember they sent the Knicks home
in the tournament and he was at half court
rolling dice on the garden floor
taking boughs
and Atlanta Hawks looked like they were in a great
position and then the decline
just started to happen rapidly to the point where you start here
speculations of Trey Young is going to get traded what's going to happen here
okay let's do this let's bring the Tartre they always mess up his first name
Murray in see if that happens that doesn't work out now you end up getting
traded to the Wizards which the Wizards have been so irrelevant for so long I
can't even tell you where they're at I'm talking about as far as place wise
because they're never a conversation the last time we
talked about the Wizards. I'm talking about even
not just relevancy
as a potential threat is when
John Wall and
Bradley Bill was
there. And then
John Wall was going for such a
was going so long.
It was just Bradley Bill's team because
John Wall was hurt.
I don't know about that.
I can't say.
It's funny that I was watching
NBA last night, right? And it's just a little
bit off topic, but I'm just trying to say how
fastest shit goes, right? I remember
John Wall, shout to John Wall, that's my nigga.
So, I'm talking about, like, when we see each other, we're super good.
I just want to say this. I remember John Wall coming in to
going to college first to Kentucky when he was in high school.
And he was like, this kid from North Carolina is crazy.
Then in Kentucky, him boogey cousins in the crew, shout to buggy, that's my nigga too.
Going to the NBA.
And then he was the sensation with the Wizards. And when he was
leaving high school going to Kentucky.
He's like, yo, this is going to be the next LeBron
James, right?
And then I remember
that quote because I was looking at this high school
highlights. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is this?
This is a nasty. It's 360 in
windmill? This is high school.
And they said he'd be next to
LeBron James. And then I watched prom last
night. Shout to Eudanis Hassel
another one of my guys and everybody
on set announcing
the game. And John Wall was part of
the team up there.
you know, analyzing the game.
And I'm like, you're analyzing LeBron James still playing
when you were supposed to be the next LeBron James.
And now it's like, yo, and that's when it made me think about Tray Young.
It made me think about Tray Young.
I'm like, yo, you could be a sensation and you can be out of here just as fast.
And I'm not saying John Wall still can't play, but he's not having played.
Don't get me wrong.
He went through injuries, so on and so forth.
But remember he went to Clippers a couple years ago,
and I'm like thinking, Paul George, Kauai, and John,
whoa, whoa, that didn't pan out.
And this is somebody who was supposed to be the next LeBron James,
analyzing LeBron James games,
and I just don't want that for Tray Young.
Now, if I'm Anthony Davis, or I'm the Wizards,
I need to have a conversation with Tray Young
about the D.C. area,
about how you feel about Washington as a city
because his contract is up after next year.
So what happens is this.
If you don't have a guarantee with him saying
that you're going to sign back with him next summer,
not this summer coming up.
Next summer, you might want to try and trade, Tray Young.
I said John Walker.
You may want to try and trade, Tray Young
because if he doesn't want to come back to D.C.,
you're going to end up with nothing.
And he could go where he wants after next season.
So y'all better make sure.
sure that's where he wants to be.
Because if not, in the middle of the season,
off season, you need to try and make a deal now
because you'll end up with nothing.
We all know, Tray.
Y'all may be playing a card where,
I'm going to sit here for you.
I'm going to keep quiet.
I'm going to act like I love B.C., so on and so forth.
And ball out.
Yeah, and then the next thing you know,
he and Houston with KD. in the mix.
Hmm.
He ends up in Houston, night, night.
night night
it's night night for everybody
I think that
that's a great take killer
if Tray Young and Houston
will be oh my goodness
it would be like a Van Fleet
upgrade and I love
Van Fleet
but it'll be a young Van Fleet
you know
yeah and got longer range
and more options the faster
even though Van Fleet's a veteran
not just a veteran
a championship veteran
God, I'm taking Tray Young today.
Yeah, Tray Young off the pick and roll with KD is a nightmare.
KD, the picking roll with Amen is a nightmare.
Sagoon is a nightmare.
That might be to play, Tray Young.
If you're listening to us, we haven't been wrong yet.
You know what I'm saying?
They take all ideas and try to do them without us.
Listen, don't do this one without us.
It is something.
Say courtesy of it is what it is.
Maybe we can get a stat to do this too.
Can it look courtesy of it is what it is?
Next time she go out.
What do you think?
Yeah, why not?
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's a great little write-up.
But as Mason always says, we'll see what happens in due time.
But people do be listening.
That's what I'll put out there.
Listen, like I said, that is the most important thing for D.C.
D.C., y'all better make sure that's where you want to be,
because I'm going to be honest with you.
The city, I love it.
I love it.
I don't want to play for DC.
I don't care. I'll put up with it for a year, but I'm going to Houston.
I'm going somewhere where we can win a championship next few years.
Because before you know it, he'll be in the league after this year.
What, this will be a sixth, seventh year?
It goes fast.
Definitely does.
And the seventh year is the joint year.
So, you know, if you're all great players by year seven,
you got to be somewhere close to that championship.
We'll see what happens.
Okay, y'all.
So this college coach got caught pimping.
We will discuss after the break.
She called this thing about toxic.
He isn't counting.
Got you feeling like an option.
Maybe I'm my own problem, baby.
She's tired of hearing, I don't know.
What's happening in me won't fall.
Welcome back. So police say a coach on the Cal State Bakersfield men's basketball program was moonlighting as a pimp across four states.
This came from an anonymous email from a tipster who was identified as a woman whom the person had allegedly trafficked for several months.
The email read, Fix it or the whole staff will fall, adding that the email was a first warning and a final warning.
warning. So the coach is now being held without bail facing 11 criminal misdemeanor charges,
including felony such as pimping. He also was charged with possession of automatic firearms
and high-capacity magazines in possession of methamphetamine and marijuana with intent
to sell. Mace, a lot to unpack. And the coach? What part of the coaches staff is this?
He was an assistant coach, not the head coach.
Yeah, the NIL money ain't making it to the players yet, man.
I mean, the coaches.
The coaches said, man, we got to share this NIR money, man.
You got tired of watching niggas ride around and the Mercedes and the range rovers.
He said, you know what?
I was getting money before this.
They said, word, coach, prove it.
Coach, try to prove it.
When you say he was pimping, what does moonlighting mean?
I've heard that before, but what is moonlighting?
I don't actually...
Oh, Keller, what does moonlight mean?
Moonlight and light on the side.
That's like your side gig.
Like, so like, what they say is, like, for instance,
right, for an example where moonlighting is,
they'll say a cop was moonlighting at a bar after work.
So basically, he's doing a side gig on the side.
basically to make some money.
Pimping on the side is crazy.
Yeah.
I thought to be a Pee, you had to be full time.
He's pimping on his side is crazy.
I got to call Bishop Dawn Warren.
Pimp and Ken.
Somebody got to let me know.
Can you be a Pee on the side?
Sauce Walker, hit me up.
Filthy, hit me up.
Can you be a Pee?
on a side? I've
never heard of that. A pee
on the side?
Come on.
I got to ask Finesse two times.
Maybe this is a new thing that's
going on. You got to ask
new peas, you know what I'm saying?
They might know.
Finesse hit your boy up.
I need to know. Moonlighten is
this a thing?
And he's doing this in California
with all that
Figueroa has to offer.
And he put it on the road side, on the side?
Y'all got to let me know, Bishop Don Juan.
Hit your boy up.
Let me know what's going on.
A pee on the side is crazy.
I think you named some good names, though.
You said Filthy, Sauce Walker.
They're going to tag you and let you know.
Shout to Filthewin sauce.
Yeah, I need to know.
to know, you know, with all this macaroni, you know?
Yeah, man.
Those both my guys, too.
What I would say is this, right?
That's a great point, Mace.
That's a great point, Mace.
You know, I don't know how much the head coach gets paid at that college, but
you're right.
Assistance is looking at everybody get paid extra, but him.
I don't know what the salary, with the NIL shit is over there if they get a lot of
money, but I'm pretty sure it's something floating around.
Yeah.
When you go to these schools now, it's looking like the dealership.
You know what I'm saying?
So let me say this first before I give my actual take.
Trafficking is not cool.
Pimping, forcing females to do something that they don't want to do is definitely not cool.
100%.
but you know
what is
pimping and distributed
and take the distribute
you know
look
if I'm leaving New York
and I'm going to Jersey
I don't know
people on East Coast don't know the demographic
that's like a 38 second ride
literally
yeah you cross the bridge
you just cross the bridge
If there's no traffic literally less than a 90 second, one-minute ride driving, if there's no traffic.
So if I'm going to Jersey and I got like five pairs on me for myself and my man be like,
yo, let me get an ounce.
And then I'd be like, just give me 300.
So with Shorty.
Oh, she or her anyway, she do whatever.
She with me though.
Am I pending it and the intent to distribute?
Was that my goal?
That was not your goal.
That was not my goal.
It wasn't my goal at all.
So these words, like I said, that's why I gave the disclaimer.
That's not the case is wrong.
But sometimes we learned this growing up, right?
And I'm not saying he shouldn't know he's a grown man.
but we learned certain things growing up as you went along.
Like, I don't want to get into detail,
but we know somebody who got in trouble
for something we didn't know was a crowd.
So we're sitting and saying,
you can get locked up for that?
Good to know.
Know that.
No.
Exactly.
And I'm not putting that on the coach.
Yeah, we're not putting that on the coach.
I'm not putting it.
If he did everything that we did,
was not supposed to be done, shame to him.
But sometimes you don't know what these were.
Like I said, it was a big deal.
Somebody got in trouble for some shit where he's like, yo, I didn't know that.
I'm glad.
I'm not saying I'm glad it happened to them, but I'm just saying,
I'm glad it ain't happened to me because I didn't know.
Yeah.
So that was much.
Yes, for a fetish.
Federal for a fetish is crazy.
Yes.
So shame on you, coach.
If that's really what's going.
on. But
I don't know if you want to take what I'm
telling you, and
run with it, but, you know,
I don't know the case, but I
hate to put the shit like... And I'm not,
and I'm not saying these guys appease.
I'm just saying they might be able
to better educate me, you know?
No, we want to make sure
we clear that up. Your question,
Mace, was totally
legitimate. I had nothing to do with this
situation. The question was,
can you be a pee on the side?
Yeah, that's really what I'm saying.
A part-time pee is crazy.
Yeah, so that has been to do.
And Statt, you wouldn't know what we're talking about,
so don't even worry about it.
I'm not worrying about it at all.
Do you know what a P is?
A P?
Oh, okay, okay.
Who knows?
I didn't, I didn't, it's like every time I share stories,
you're like, Stan, how do you don't know?
I didn't know that was a real thing.
Oh, my.
I was never exposed to that.
And then you moved to Vegas and people like, oh, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, that's what that.
Like, I, uh, yeah.
They're going to have people walking up to it say you need to pee in your life.
Just mind my business, you know?
A lot of things just be happening.
You know, just the lives.
normal. It's not my normal.
Yeah.
These days, is the manager. Do you have a manager? You know what?
Manager. See, it's a whole different
world. I'm so glad. I don't know nothing about that way.
But see, the thing about it is this, too, right, murder?
Girls is pimps too, but they respond. They reverse it and say, I need a
sponsor.
That's pimping
Yeah
Trafficking niggas out of state
All that
Hey you want to go on a trip
To Cancun
That's trafficking
You got to know the rules nowadays
You put a nigga on the plane
And San Juan
And do a little darn
Dawn
You could be in an all-out traffic
So you're right
Making niggas work and using their money for you
That's pimping
So that means there's a lot
There's more pimps than we know
Pimps everywhere
But again the question is
Can you do it on the side?
We'll wait for that answer
We'll see what's that answer
It's because actually give it the whole spark note
So obviously we saw how...
No, I got the answer.
I got the answer.
You can.
You must can because I saw a girl do it on the side.
She got a guy to buy her a car for like $500,000.
And she just cheated on the niggins.
So that got to be a P on the side.
But it's like, what was her other job, though?
Because going back and coaching them kids is crazy.
Oh, she was selling merch, I guess.
She was selling...
You know how they do it.
Selling clothing on the side.
I don't.
I'm just giving voice to it to say that, you know,
this is something to be aware of.
Like, we're joking, but it's real serious.
The mental arm fiber of people out here in this world
is very limited and very fragile.
So it seemed like this would be a legal,
not illegal, but a way that people would use to get paid off
because people's mentality is really,
low these days. But move on, stat. I'm just throwing that in there. I'm slightly moving on.
It's just a quick question regarding it before I move on. Because I'm curious, because we saw
how this headline kind of took over the entire school. When you guys were in school and then
the short period, you were in college cam and then college makes for you two, did you guys
ever have like a crazy school scandal? Do you feel like things were pretty smooth sailing?
I think our high school days was so explosive. College was easy.
I don't know for killer, but high school did it for us.
You know what I'm saying?
Our coach was literally dating girls in the school.
It was like, we dealt with crack cocaine.
It was just so much.
It was so much in school.
And by the time we got to college,
it was just like, this is easy.
Yeah.
Undergang lying.
Think about this, right?
I got to this school.
I didn't even go to the school as a freshman.
I got there in 10th grade.
And I have five coaches.
years.
I have five coaches
in three years
at this school. We had
two our coaches on there
earlier last season.
You know what I'm saying? Those were our first
two coaches. Then after that
we got this nigga name some more.
He came from
fucking South Dakota some shit.
He wanted us to wear suits
to school and with that. He was a mess.
But he ended up
getting into a fight with a student.
So he got, he got kicked out from coaching.
Then, like I told you, like Mace said,
when we heard somebody, one of the coaches was dating the students,
you know, shit was the mess.
Then, like I said, I didn't want to bring it up,
but the shit that I just was talking about before Mace happened,
people went to jail.
Yeah.
You know, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Our team alone was.
It was like the Rico.
It was like, yeah, this can't be high school.
You are.
This is crazy.
So, yeah.
So, yeah, some of the stuff we don't want to get in too deep, but I have to agree with
Mastat.
Yeah, high school was some scandals.
What?
Scandals is not going to work for.
I know your other one coach, but who was the fifth coach?
So you have Ford, you had Gladden.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about Gladden.
You had Coach Rich Cole Ford, Coach Gladden,
Dee Graham once in a while, some more.
We had six then.
That was six.
Six coaches in three years.
And then Coach Jackson, remember Jackson my senior year?
Yeah.
It was crazy, man.
So I have five coaches in three years.
He had six.
Yeah, that's a fact.
That's a lot.
Yeah, it's a lot.
Man, you can't get no momentum like that.
At all.
And y'all had never had no high school reunion or nothing.
Y'all just said, we good?
Like, I'm serious.
Yeah, we had a high school reunion and killer ain't show up.
Me and Killer didn't show up.
You just didn't know who was going to.
be there.
You know what it is that?
See, you know, getting to travel, right?
And later on for me to New York,
New York catch on to a lot of things
later. And I say catch on, I just think
the New York, think that
they are, we are,
too cool for a lot of shit. To me, I don't
remember no prom. I don't know
if Mason went to a prom, like, I don't
remember the shit. I don't even know
where prom was held at.
Yeah, I didn't think about that, killer.
You did not go to prom.
Yeah, I'm like, where was prom at?
First of all, you older than me, so your prom was before mine.
But I'm like, where was the prom at?
I didn't, where was the prom at?
I didn't go.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm talking about.
Niggins don't even know.
Fuck the prom.
Niggas had dates.
We had dates.
We just didn't go.
Yeah.
Like.
If you went to a prom.
prom is like a chick.
If you really cool, it's like you got to beg me to go to prom.
Like, I don't, I'm not a prom guy.
Like, yeah.
I went to prom.
Actually, I got to find, you, you had to pitch a killer.
That was me at the prom with Diane.
That was at another school.
But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I remember that.
That's why I asked you because I remember y'all to going to a prom.
Yeah, you couldn't go back in the day.
You couldn't go to a prom because that mean you was with her.
We couldn't get.
give nobody that.
Like,
yo,
I dressed up for her.
No,
we can do it.
Yeah,
that's a fact.
You got to go to other school proms.
So people would be like,
yo,
that's the kid from our man center.
Yeah.
I don't ever remember
Cam going to the prom,
ever.
Because I never went.
I didn't even know where the shit was up.
Yeah, I popped out one time
and I ain't like it.
Why did you like it?
It was too romantic.
Yeah.
My upper-head phone
It was too
I was too young to be that romantic
You know, they want you to
Be romantic in that era
Yeah, the bing flowers
And all of that
I had the rose in my back pocket
So was it not
Cool, wait
So wasn't not cool to just go by yourself
We were part of a tough era.
You couldn't have them roses in your home like that.
I had the rose in my back pockets.
You said, you ain't got a rose?
I'm like, yo, I think I got one, you know.
Yeah, you couldn't have the whole bouquet and all that
and be out there with the limousine and all that.
We grew up in the wrong times.
It was the wrong era.
Y'all couldn't just go by yourself.
Like, just go just because you wanted to look fly.
Like that wasn't a thing.
No, you were fly all year.
Why would you wait to prom to be fly?
That was a country move to wait to prom to be fly.
If you wasn't fly all before that,
and that's the thing about in our high school,
we just didn't know what you was going to look like on prom day.
For me, it's like, I got to know you good looking
to know if I'm going to prom,
because you might not show up.
And we got all these pictures now together.
It's a bad idea, Statt.
This is a whole different perspective.
Yeah, it wasn't like your day where the mother gets you a Lamborghini
and you got the tuxedo to match your socks and all that.
Nah, it was like, you rent a tuxedo.
You rent the tuxedo.
You don't even have a tuxedo.
I had to rent my tuxedo.
That's how poor we was.
It's like 90 niggas wore this tuxedo.
before.
And you got to turn it back in
and they give you these patent-level
shoes to wear with the tuxedo.
I would never do it again.
Imagine that.
Start going in the mall,
getting a tuxedo,
you're renting the shoes.
It's not your shoes.
It's not your tuxedo.
Yeah, so I'm thinking about,
you know, it's not your shoes,
it's not your tuxedo.
It's not your shirt.
Like, how can you feel confident
like that. I felt weird the whole
night. Like, who was in
this cause? This tuxedo
before. This is, wow.
And that day
I vowed I never wear another tuxedo
unless it's my own
tuxedo. I can't do that.
Yeah, and the thing about it is just
like I said,
it's just that error, right?
I remember
this nigger Duke the God
in RIP, my man
bloodshed, you know, me,
and him was a group at a time.
Mace, too, so we all kind of just, you know,
Mace had got solo, but me and my man Bloodshed from COC.
We was on the group, and I started, I liked it.
I started listening to R&B.
Now, look, we sit back and think about it today,
like, yo, 90s R&B is the best R&B.
90s R&B is the best R&B.
I was singing R&B, and they used to be like,
look at this nigga Candy Cam.
They used to call me Candy Cam.
Look at this nickname.
Remember that.
Blood.
Yeah.
Candy cam.
Because I'm like R&B.
I got to listen to it on the low pause because I'm being teased about like in Jodacy or cut closer.
S.WV.
I'm Candy Cam.
So that's how bad it was.
Yeah, you couldn't even like that.
I remember blood saying that.
He was like, yo, I was.
He called me, he's like, yo, I had an MOP on.
Cam comes over there in place, however do you want it?
You're some tough niggas, man.
Yeah, niggins only want to listen to Onik and MOP.
And boot camp click.
The girls want to listen to boot camp click.
Yeah, man.
I ain't going to lie.
It was pretty rough.
But to answer your question real quick, stat,
so Mace did mention how we was going to,
they called us for reunion.
But where they was happening at was like.
Chinese side.
Yeah.
It was like.
It was at a bar in the basement.
Oh, I didn't know it was going to be there.
That's Tom's spot.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout to Tom.
I didn't know it was going to be Tom spot.
I thought they were doing that at the Chinese spot.
It was Lighthouse.
Shout to my nigga Mike who owned Lighthouse.
It was his spot, but Tom has the night there.
But to put it like this stat, the spot we talk about,
maybe smaller than where we film at.
Maybe a little smaller.
So it's like, yo, what kind of reunion do we really do?
I told them, then I told them, look,
if you retire in my jersey and put it on the wall,
I'll show up.
Then they agreed to do it, and I was like,
nah, that ain't genuine, forget it.
I'm not going anyway.
No, you don't want to put my shit up off the love.
I really told them that hoping that they say no.
But they agree to it.
That's how you know we think alike.
I wanted my number at the half of court.
You're going to see 22 at the half of court.
That's crazy
Niggins they can't do it
So you know me
If you can
I can
I can
I want the niggins to walk in the gym
And say
Yo who is number 22
They put
Baffair
I was saying
none less.
You know this
this nigga going to ask for too much.
You know, he has been
to put him at half court.
I don't care about
none of the naked.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't think about that one.
I ain't think about half of course.
Yeah.
Y'all didn't even give him a chance
because, like, the high school budget
is different. So if that's the location,
if it would have been a different
location, you still would have considered, you still
wouldn't have went.
Nah, we're going to go, go.
Because you know why?
Let me just tell you my opinion, right?
And I'm just going from watching
watching other reunions and shit like that, right?
A lot of times people go to reunion
be like, oh, I want to see so-and-so.
I wonder what they look like. I want to see someone.
I want to see so on some.
We the niggins to see.
Sorry to the rest of the classes.
No disrespect on your achievements and like,
you know.
I'm not disrespecting with y'all done, but I'm not running.
I'm not looking forward to going to see anybody that I went to school with,
because anybody I went to school with that I still fuck with,
I can still speak to them.
Yeah.
We know where they're at.
We know where all those people are.
Even you guys is like high school crushes.
Like that old like you were like,
dang, I wonder what happened to so-and-so.
I drink saying go to our school like that.
And we seen all of them when we got signed, you know?
When we got signed, we started seeing all the people
we went to school with.
Yeah.
That's a cool fact.
I was just curious, because I actually am supposed to make
my high school reunion because I was president.
So I'm like, I'm just curious on where everybody else went.
But hearing y'all talk about it.
See, according to how you went to school,
you should want to go back.
Yeah, yeah.
Teachers and all that.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I would put that shit together ASAP if I was you.
It's a little different.
Yeah, I was security guard.
I'm thinking about our reunion would be so crazy.
Cam, me,
Bridge Parker,
Dame Dash,
Sinai Lathan,
Makai Fife,
it was a lot of talent
came out of that school.
I didn't even realize
that until I saw
McCa and Clark because I was like,
yo, I went to school with him.
I wasn't up yet, but he was on the screen.
I was like, yo, this is crazy.
I remember him.
So I was school
and there's so many more
people that I'm not even thinking about right now that are like bona fide stars so it's a lot of talent
came out of that school for real i don't know what it is yeah that's actually dope that would be dope
to see i know you guys are over that'd be dope to see because i know you guys had you guys as
coaches on here so i'm just like where is everybody at like yeah the thing about it though also too
to be clear the people that mason's naming they all went to our school but they different classes too
you know what i'm saying like we didn't go to
school with Dane, even though he went to that school.
Yeah.
He wasn't there with him or Sinai Lathan or whatever.
But McCah, yes.
Yeah.
And like Mason said, I can't even think, but he's right.
It's a long list of people who made it from that school.
Yeah.
Overall dope alumni.
That's cool.
Okay.
Well, in the comments down below, let us know you guys as high school reunion stories
or school scandals.
We want to hear them.
Maybe we'll even react to one of them.
Yeah.
Are you going to put,
Are you going to put together the reunion?
Yeah, I am.
You're going to go shit on niggas,
or you're going to act like it's all good
and brag about it later when you get in the car?
I don't know.
That looked like a flexor.
Stat looked like a flexor.
She's going to flag.
Stata killing with kindness,
but see, that's what I'm trying to say.
You was telling me how certain people,
I don't know if it was college or high school
was telling you that, you know,
you're not going to start off good in this career.
Was that high school?
as well? That was college, but high school, I did have certain teachers who were like,
yeah, I don't really know if you should go, like, talking about like money and different
things saying that I couldn't do certain things. But shout out to my principal, though,
because she was great. Shout out. Would you? So that's the question I want to ask you for.
Yeah. Would you remind them of that when you see them like, hey, we're like, hey, remember you
told me? Would you say that? The thing is, I don't have to remind people because I would say it.
I clock things.
Yes, but the question is, would you, though?
Would you, though?
Not that you have to?
There's a lot of things.
Because even, like, it's so many,
because it wasn't that long ago.
Like, there's even people who, like,
because I was a type of student, like, in class,
I love to read out loud, like, in history and things like that.
There's this dude who sat next to me who was like,
she always wants to read out loud in the class.
Her voice is so annoying, da-da-da, which is funny,
because I literally used.
He was my voice every day.
So yeah, him?
Like, there's certain people, yes.
But teachers, I don't have got time.
So, yeah, I'd be interested to go back and see.
So the instance, no, you wouldn't say all that just to say no, that you wouldn't do it.
That's the teachers.
That's the teachers.
But I remind certain people, yeah.
Because they know.
They know.
People don't forget.
They know.
Okay.
Our teachers was pretty cool, man.
I saw you.
I see Ms. Frazier recently.
right murder.
She thought
that was you.
She's like,
Mace.
I said,
Frasier,
you ain't that old.
Now,
I go out.
She said,
no,
it's Mager.
I said,
no,
I'm careful.
Carol,
you came out
to Mace's a day.
I said,
yeah,
sequential one.
And she said,
what's something?
Man,
I said,
he's chilling.
Everybody good,
man.
I ain't going to lie.
I have pretty,
we are pretty good teachers.
Yeah,
we have,
good teachers. But shout out to the dope teachers that are encouraging and definitely supported.
Mace, Cam, I, whatever throughout our years, Ms. Diffles, Ms. Norman, there's a list.
Yeah, Ms. Frazier, Ms. Rogers, Mrs. Shineback, Glad.
What is his name? What was our A.D. name?
Coach Gladden. Coach Gladden. Got a shout out to Coach Gladden.
Miss Robson, too, in Spanish.
Yeah, oh, yeah. She said, Mace.
I saw a guy go cross out of doing that on a test one time.
Definitely make a big impact.
But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today.
Thank you all for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.
