IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE FINAL FOUR IN THE NFL & JAYDEN DANIELS' MAMA SAYS STAY AWAY FROM MY BABY! S6 EP8

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

On this episode, THE PLAYMAKER IS BACK!!! Michael Irvin joins the show with our NFL analyst, Arabia, to breakdown the NFC and AFC conference championship games. Then, Jayden Daniels' Mother says the one thing she's worried about with him and his career is the women! Finally, Ben Johnson is now the head coach for the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams! What do you think? Tell us in the comments below Please Like the video, comment, subscribe & turn on your post notifications for more content. Listen to the show on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/4Brb7BgCw4f4jwgS5v3sXQ?si=811988ecff7b416a Listen to the show on Apple Podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-is-what-it-is/id1719695401 Support the show and sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 in Bonus Cash + a FREE pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/pc-h5QWv9W9OA Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash with your first deposit and a free pic.

I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your host Cam, and Mace will be back because he's not feeling well, but Cam, how you feeling? Stat was good, how are you? I'm great, I'm great, and I, because he's not feeling well. But Cam, how you feeling? Stat was good, how you? I'm great, I'm great. And I like that it's a full house. Everybody's in, yeah.

Yeah, you know my team fluent, you know what I'm saying? Shug's in the building, Larry always here, Bezo here, Bop here, PT of course. You know what's crazy, Stat, I just wanted to tell you though. So, of course, niggas know Shug my nigga, and Bop my nigga too, pause. But Bop say Saquon Barkley is his cousin. And we haven't had him on the show yet. Suge been trying to poly this.

What's the situation with getting Saquon Barkley on the show, Bop and Suge? What the fuck happened? I don't know, he got a uncle named Captain with lumps on his forehead. Who? This man right here. Nobody, we don't wanna speak to no grandmother,

we don't wanna speak to the uncle, we don't speak to no father, we need Saint Quan Barkley, whatever his name is. I ain't gonna lie, we did call Bob, we did call some nigga that said he was his uncle, they asked us what the fuck we want with him. So we did kill him. Hold on.

What? Yo, my niggaiggas a grown man! What the fuck he keep telling my grandmother? Yo, listen, the nigga... The end result? Can we get him on the show, Bop? When? Are you that cousin that's cool with him,

or you that nigga that just see him at the family reunion and shit like that? I'm gonna let you know by tomorrow. All right, all right. Because now you're out. If I have to do this on my own, I'm gonna lose your job with this particular booking talent situation.

Yo, bro, he's not gonna make no calls tomorrow. Like, nobody's gonna make the call now. You keep calling niggas grandmother. What time is it? It's a, in Philly. The nigga worth all the money in the world, why is he asleep? Because you got a pulling game coming up.

Sunday. All right, listen man. Today's Wednesday. So what's going on Sunday? Y'all practice tomorrow. Yeah, now you know the coach in Philly. You got to practice when? Thursday.

Thursday. Yeah, it's Thursday. So you think he's not on the phone, like he can't pick up the call? We gonna see, man. We gonna move on. I just wanted to put this on blast. So if Saquon see this, he might be like,

I don't know neither one of you niggas. You know what I'm saying? So I just wanted to put it on. I don't know neither one of you niggas. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to put it out there. I don't know him at all. I seen him one time in Say Less, he had the long in-ring. And he spent like 23,000. That's all I know of him. So you're not confirming that's his cousin?

His name not Boppy. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. And we gonna leave it. We know Boppy and Say Quan Boppy. That's a good point. And we gonna leave it. Yo, why you keep naming everybody in the family tree except you? How do your family tree go?

We gotta move on. We gotta move on. Who? Spooky. Spooky? Yo, listen. Fellas, fellas, fellas. Full house.

Full house. Full house. We gotta move on, bro. We gotta move on, bro. I just wanted to put it on blast just to see Saquon get on the grip and be like, I don't know neither one of these niggas. We'll see what happens in the next few days. I ain't trying to know him.

This is my show. And I don't wanna speak to Uncle Captain and nobody else. I don't wanna speak to you, Saquon. You, pick up your phone, I'm coming to Philadelphia. Okay. You already here? What you gonna do when you get there? I'm gonna stop, give me a sandwich,

see a couple I need to see, and I'm gonna pull up. Okay, well, we, yeah, let's see if we can make that happen. We're all staying tuned, literally all of us watching. I don't make stuff happen. I don't make stuff happen. I'm not saying you don't. We're gonna see if we can make that happen. We're all staying tuned, literally all of us watching. I don't make stuff happen. I don't make stuff happen. I'm not saying you don't. We're going to see if we can make anything happen. That's clear.

Listen, shout out to my man, too. I don't know what I'm running with Deon Sanders in the family. That's who I roll with. That's true. That's true. Yeah, that's who I'm with. That's valid. That's valid.

You know what I mean? Well, we know I talked to Coach Pram. He said you took care of him and Shadour when they came to New York. But you got the fur coats and all type of shit, right? Yeah, that's what I do, you know what I mean? Always though. Name strong, I don't know if I say corn.

Right, I ain't no disrespect to him. But I ain't seen him at no things given. We gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta move on. So, we'll see. Today, we are joined with our analysts, Michael Irvin and Arabia. How are y'all feeling today? Oh suit it up. How y'all feeling? Hey y'all could y'all back up a little bit or push it can y'all like y'all yeah there you go Mike what you gonna suit on for where you coming from, bro? I

Was I'm over here in San Bernardino. I had an appearance here at the, what is this, the casino, Yamahama Casino. All I know is, yeah, I'm mad you don't have a suit on. I put this suit on to compete. And now, you know, so you can see this. Okay, let me- You see the detail, and all that, you know, so man.

When I finally wear a suit, you don't have one on. Now listen, Mike, let me ask you a question real quick before it compete. Is that off the rack or is that telling me? Dude, stop playing, man. I'm just asking. What you're asking me, you're asking me, if you see that right there,

I always tell brothers, let me see it, if it's on the collar or on the chest. If it's on the collar, that's small, medium, or large. If it's on the chest, exclusively made for. I don't know what that is really. Ow! I like that shit. Well listen, Mike, cause I only do tailor-made too.

You know how much tailor-made I do? My turtleneck is tailor-made. This is a one of one, Mike. Now if you want me to go get one of my blazers to throw on just so you feel more comfortable, it's not a problem. I thought Mace wasn't here. You've been coming in with the little tie all year.

You haven't worn a suit one day this whole year. Now you wear a suit, not for the show. Not for the show, because you had a Paris and San Bernardino at the casino. Shout out to the casino booking my man Mike, I like that. But you didn't wear a suit to compete with me. You won, because they paid you to come to that event, and you had to be presentable when you got there.

Because I know you're not in San Bernardino for free. So he don't even got a, you can kill that. No, no, no, it's a nice check, it's a nice check. Okay. But, but, but, when I did, when I picked out the suit, even though I'm coming around, you know, probably some bland white people, I couldn't be bland because I knew I was gonna see you.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? And since I never wore a suit, if I wore a bland suit the first time, then you gonna say, man, this joker can't mess with me. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate it and I love how you guys stress. Honestly, let me tell y'all some camp.

It's that I hadn't worn a suit all year, right? And when I put this suit on, I swear to you, on everything, I forgot how to tie a damn tie. I'm like, what the hell? You know what I'm saying? Cause I hadn't worn it in so long, man. I miss wearing a suit, buddy. So we gotta fix that.

I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know how to tie a tie because one day Mesa had to tie my shit for me, but most of the time what happens is when my suits are delivered, the tie is hanging on the already tied on the hanger. So don't feel bad about it. But I do think you look great.

If you wanna have a competition, we could do it Monday when you come on next week, or we could do it next Thursday, whatever day. But I don't even think that you'll be wearing a suit. I think you had to wear a suit today, and I'm not gonna press the issue because we do have to move on. But don't act like you wore a suit for me.

You wore it for that check tonight, last night. But I love it. Go get that money, nigga. I like that. Facts. Hey, hey, that too. But let me tell you, I heard you got to talk about Saquon. Y'all do understand, right?

This Saquon first ride on this thing. So you know, right now, he's very important people. He's usually being at home right now, chilling, so you can get to him. He's never been this deep in the playoffs. Well, Mike, we was trying to get Saquon on week two. We didn't know what was going to happen. It's now the playoffs,

and Saquon hasn't been on the show yet. I'm not going to say my man Bob is lying because I don't think he is, but we did speak to a disgruntled uncle. What is Bob showing? What is that picture? You and Saquon? Okay, okay, well, you pinned up,

but the uncle asked us, what do we want with him? And he's like, what you think, we gonna kidnap the nigga? So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Why we put, why we put guys like that in charge of our shit? Let's be real.

Why we do that? Why we do that? You know, I'm just like, when you get to this place, some people, you want to help people out, but you can't bring them along. Like these guys ask them, what do you want to help people out, but you can't bring them along. Like these guys ask them, what do you want with Saquon? Obviously, this is not his profession.

You know, it makes no sense whatsoever. But I'ma work on Saquon for you guys also. I'ma pull some strings and work for you also. Pause. You gonna work on Saquon for me? No, thank you. Raise your hand. I'm saying? I'ma try to work.

I'm dead. Oh Mike, glad to see you. I've been killing this drug for three, four weeks. I've been killing it for three or four weeks. I'ma leave it alone. Because you know, you think it's me, but Stac keeps looking at me. Nick never puts the camera on her.

When you say this shit, then keeps looking at me. Nick never puts the camera on her when she, when you say this shit, then she looks at me like, whoa, that's crazy, but it's all good. I'm catching you, Mike, sorry. Okay, but glad to see you in a suit in Arabia, glad to see you too. You're having a wonderful week with the Commander's win, which we're gonna get into later.

Real quick, Stat, so Mike, I don't think that you've met Arabia, at least not on this show. She's also one of our football analysts, and it's funny, and it's not just by coincidence, she's from the DMV area, she's a Commander's fan, and she does broad, you know, she has a podcast, she does local news for Washington with the Commander,

so we're not just bringing in a random Commander's fan or broadcaster. She's been working with us for this whole entire season, the days that you're usually not here. But I thought that the Commanders were doing so well and Dallas was doing so poor that we have you two on at the same time today. And I thought that would be the reason

that she's up here today. But you know, it's the commander's time to shine. And she's, and she say, yeah. Oh, she threw the toe, she threw a scarf on. Ha ha ha ha. Big business. Oh, the hair, the hair, is that your hair, Commander? Maru, is that?

It's a little Commander, or Burgundy and Gold. You look great, You look really great. You always look great, but I like that you have the Commander colors on a Dallas nigga right now. So we're going to have some fun today. This is going to be really exciting, man. Let's actually start with the fun, too. So last thing to snap before we get to it.

Mike, and just so you know how good she is at doing what she does, when I was asking y'all how the onside kick worked and you didn't know, she's the one who came on the show and corrected you the next day, but you probably didn't see it, but when I was asking you how, what's going on with the onside kick?

She came over the next day, she said, I see Michael Irvin didn't know what was going on, how to work, but this is actually how it works. So I'm just letting you know, she already been throwing shots at you before y'all even met about nine weeks Some things I have to leave some things on the plate for others. I shouldn't eat everything

Because you know in the 49ers Chiefs Super Bowl last year the Chiefs knew the overtime rules They specifically prepared for but the 49ers did not. So sometimes there are rules and regulations that players don't have the time to, you know, understand the pay attention to. They have personnel for that. So I will give you and Maurice Claret some grace for that because you're players,

you don't always consider the rules around the game, but that's where I come in. So, you know, not that bad. Yes. Let them know, let them know. That's the meat on the bone that I love for her. Let her have that bone. I like this, this is exciting.

I was gonna start with the Lions, but we might as well start with the Commanders. So let's get into our predictions for this Sunday. The Commanders will play the Eagles. Mike, who do you think will win this game? Man, I'm telling you, I love this game because I love what I'm seeing in a young Jane Daniels. And I'm telling you, and even last week, I still don't know how healthy Jaylen Hurts is.

I don't know how healthy the passing game is. And that worries me. But I'm still going to take the Eagles to win this game at home because of their defense. It's going to be a great game though with young James Daines. If he can tap on to what he did last week, because I thought he took another step last week. I've been talking to you guys about these steps. Last week, what he did,

because Detroit had done this to people. Everybody was trying to say, is Detroit's defensive backs in this short? No, no, no. That dude won that game. That throw he made to the Army ground, that was, that was, that was a 60 yard handoff. They were right there and he still made that play. So I got Philly winning that game. I know it's about six and a half spread. I don't

think that they'll cover the spread, but I do think they'll win the game at home. Okay. In Arabia, what are your thoughts? How are you feeling about this game? Yeah, at this point in the season, neither team is fully healthy. These two teams have never seen each other, at least this season, fully healthy. The thing that concerns me on the commander side is offensive lineman Sam Cosme is out. He's a guard. That's a huge problem because Jalen Carter is a game disruptor. He is a wrecker. So they're going to need as much help as they can get. Trent Scott is in for Sam Cosme and

he did a good job against the Lions. But the Lions defensive line is way different than that Eagles defensive line. So that's one area where I'm really, really concerned. Of course, outside of Saquon Barkley. And on the other side, just looking at this Eagles injury report, they have a lot of things that they're dealing with, from AJ Brown, Quinyawn Mitchell, Josh Swett, Dallas Goddard did not participate in practice. But we need to see how hurt Jalen Hurts actually is. He was kind of shady in the postgame press conference.

He didn't really answer the extent to his injury. He just said, well, I finished the game. So I want to know what the extent of his injury is. These two teams tend to play each other really, really hard, really, really well, not just this season, but as two organizations in the same division. I expect this to be the cardiac commanders, right? Like heart attack into the last second.

I wouldn't be surprised if it came down close, but you know, I'm going to take my commanders just to be a contrarian to Michael Urban today. I'm gonna take my commanders just to be a contrarian to Michael Irvin today. Oh man, I'm the tiebreaker, huh? Oh man, listen, Washington has had a magical season, man. Like it's almost like some Cinderella shit, to be totally honest with you. Rookie quarterback, winning games with Hail Marys,

beating my niggas, Cincinnati Bengals with less than a minute left, and you know, sending my nigga Joe Burrows home. They have had a super duper magical season. And much props to them. And I want the commander to win. I grew up a Washington Redskins fan. When they're the Redskins, I'm talking about Art Monk, John Riggins,

Joe Gibbs was coaching, Joe Theismann. I had to read phones, phone, when it was time when I was seven, eight years old. But I think Saquon Barkley is the distance. Bob, if you can get him, one line, one. And not only Saquon Barkley being the difference, Michael Irvin made a great point that Philadelphia's defense is tremendous.

It's tremendous. Now I'm going to go with Philadelphia, but my heart of heart really wants Jayden Daniels and these guys to continue what they're doing. But I got to go with Michael Irvin on this. I think that Philadelphia is going to win. But if the commanders win, I'll be cheering with Arabia. That's who I want to win, but I don't think they're gonna pull this off.

Yeah, yeah, Cam, Cam, me too. Me too, let me get this right now. If I gotta take one of these evils, I'd rather take the evil than just stand up and clap when I broke my neck. I'm going with Washington. You see what I'm saying? I wanna see, I wanna see a young Jayden Daniels

in the Super Bowl. I wanna see him playing against Patrick Mahomes, to be honest with you, to get a shot at the king. You know, and I said this earlier, I said, it looks like, and I don't know how they did it, but it looks like Jayaden Daniels looked like Lamar Jackson. And Patrick Mahal got together and had an offspring. I don't know how they did it, but Jaden Daniels is it.

He has Lamar's ability to shoulder down, but he thinks the game like Patrick Mahal. And that's why I want to see that Super Bowl matchup. That would be the most intriguing matchup to me. Yeah, look, the thing about Jaden Daniels, I just like his aura. He's not too, you know, the games that he's won so far, which are incredible, he doesn't jump up and down.

I mean, he's excited, of course, as a young player, but he's not over the top. He's not going crazy. He seems like he's ready to get to the next game. And I think that he has a certain cool about him that I like. Even when he's being interviewed, he's not... He has a great mannerism. And I want to see more of that.

I know he's not the nigga nigga that's that like, like, Ken was. That's that like nigga niggas. He seems like a well-mannered black man that's a quarterback. And I like that about him, because a lot of niggas... Let's think about Baker Mayfield, his first couple of years

and he didn't even get as far as Jayden Daniels. He's an asshole. He was obnoxious, you know? And he's got better with his attitude and persona over the years because the league humbled him. But I think Jayden Daniels has a great persona now. So I really, really want to see him get to the next round. I couldn't agree with you more, Mike.

Arabia? So given that you said that about Jayden and Daniels, is that not necessarily how you feel about Jaylen Hurts? Because that will also be a quarterback that can potentially make it to the next level that I feel like people tend to leave out of certain conversations. So outside of you having a heart for the commanders

and outside of the Eagles having one of the best overall rosters in the NFL, is there no other reason why you would want to see Philly make it to the Super Bowl? Me personally? Okay, Mike. Go ahead. I'll go in there.

No, to be honest with you, I think they're exciting. DeVon T. Smith, A.J. Brown. Look, them niggas is exciting to watch and nobody I don't think this season has played better than Saquon Barkley. And maybe you can sit there and say Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, but probably the most exciting player to watch this season has been Saquon Barkley.

Do I wanna see Golden State five years ago when they shooting threes and breaking records? I like to see excitement. Don't get me wrong, I like good defense and a good battle, but I'm here for the spectacular shit. I'm here for niggas doing cartwheels and jumping over niggas' paws backwards. They are very exciting to watch.

And I think Washington had moments like that too, but they were more magical than spectacular. When you sit there and throw Hail Mary's, cause the fucking nigga from the Bears is talking to niggas in the crowd playing games and he's not positioned and they win. All these games, Washington had 11 games, whether it was win or lose, they had seven,

I believe they won four that they lost within a touchdown or less. All their games were magical. Philly's game's been spectacular with Saquon Barkley and I think there's a difference between spectacular and magical. So I want the magic to continue, but at the same time, I like spectacular too.

Yeah, I can completely see that. But what I will say is that regardless of what happens, the commanders are way ahead of schedule. So we exit on Sunday, it's not gonna be any tears. We're just still really excited for's not gonna be any tears, we're just still really excited for what's gonna happen. Yeah, the thing, and that's the thing Arabia, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Mike, Mike, hold on, Mike, I'ma let you go,

but see, that's the thing I like about Arabia. And she's done this week after week after week. She covers her ground and act like if we lose, it's no big deal, so then once he wins, it's a big deal. Okay, y'all are ahead of schedule, we get it, but you're here, we're not gonna start that shit ahead of schedule, we get it, but you're here. We're not gonna start that shit where, well, we shouldn't be here anyway.

You're here. We don't wanna hear that shit, you're here. You cover your ground, I've been watching you. Week after week after week, you did it with the Lions the week before they played the Lions, and you said, well, if we lose, we wouldn't be so close to being with the Lions, but if we win, we win.

I watch your shit. And that's what you do to cover your grail So when y'all do when you be like we wasn't supposed to win anyway, nah, Arabia You're here. We're not gonna do that Right both sides of the coin shit if you lose you should get your loss Don't talk about you had a schedule. Yeah, you're here now. There's none of that I just trying to cover your tracks and I know what you're doing. I'm talking about you had a schedule, you're here now. There's none of that. I just trying to cover your tracks and I know what you're doing. I'm warning you. That's right.

In the final four teams in the National Football League, all of them are capable of walking away a champion. So is Washington. So I can't say I'm going to give them a pass at this place right here. I'm expecting them to play and play well. And playing, going to Detroit to win that game that tells you that they'll be ready, I believe,

to go anywhere and win a game. You said something earlier, Arabia. You talked about, why do I not have the same emotions for Jalen Hurts as I do for Jane Danes? And there's a difference there. Outside of being black quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts, I love watching him play. But I understand that he's a running quarterback

learning to pass. Jane Daniels is a passing quarterback that can also run. That's my thing, because I wanted to take care of my kids, too. I ain't want no running quarterback. Now everybody got a mobile quarterback now, so I understand, but I'd rather have a Jane Daniels who's mobile, but thinking about passing.

And if all else fails, then I'll run, as opposed to Jane and Hurts, who came in here running and not quite the pastor that Jane Daniels is. And then Arabia, your thoughts to basically the heat that's kind of coming towards you for supporting your team. Just got to know before we move on. Oh yeah, you know, Cam, I have all the love in the world for you.

Like what? I don't care what you want to hear and what you don't want to hear. Like I said, we happy to be here where we at because we wasn't even supposed to be here. We were supposed to win six and a half games. So the fact that we're here, we're happy. And if we lose, we're still going to be happy.

And if we win, yeah, I'm talking shit. So you can just mute the video when it get to that point if you don't want to hear it. I like hearing it. Skip it, but I'm gonna keep saying it. We're happy where we are. And yeah, I'm gonna keep covering my ground because it's facts.

A lot of okay't tell it. And neither does the truth. And the truth is that, you know, we happy to be here. We playing with house money. See, you know what? You know what? And I like that, Aray, I'm glad you're mitting that. See, you know what my problem is?

I've been hanging out with Coach Pram. And out of Colorado, we exceed expectations of what people predict of us. In Colorado, they say we supposed to win two games. We were four. They say we posted with four games We get to a bowl game which they say they say oh, he's not a top five quarterback Oh, we're not gonna get the husband So we I'm used to proving niggas wrong when you run around with niggas like coach prom so I get it You're just saying we're not you know, I get it. You're not in the right rooms and sometime

We'll just go get you in the right room so that you exceed expectations all the time because you know why? That's their expectations. When you're in the house, you have your own expectations. So I get it, I understand. Okay, so moving along, let's actually talk about Jaden Daniels real quick.

So in a docu-series, including his mother, she was asked what concerns her the most as Jaden prepared to go to the NFL. She replied, girls. She said, some girl out here, she's got a Jaden Daniels wall and her mama says, hey honey, you're going to be the one to get them. And I know that sounds crazy, but I guarantee there's someone who's trying to get their hooks into Jaden Daniels. So thank God he got a mama like me because it ain't happening. Mike, after seeing that interview clip with his mom, what were your thoughts on what she had to say?

Mom, you know, mom is saying this is my baby. I'm protecting him and y'all ain't getting our money. I understand what mom is saying. I have no issue with what mom is saying, you know, because she wants to keep him focused. There's one thing to work so hard to get to this level. It's another thing to stay at this level with everything that's coming at you. And when you start playing at this level, the way he's playing, absolutely. Everyone, those guys, the ones with girls in Washington about that little

Jersey and she going to see them waiting every time he walks by in that stadium. They going to be waiting skirt up, trying to catch them that dollar and make it hollow. She just got to get you to protect them. She protect them, but she will. He will get some opportunities. Okay, Arabia, your thoughts on what Jane Daniels' mom had to say?

Yeah, I mean, she's not wrong. Everything that she said is correct and she's just trying to protect her baby and I can respect that. I'm glad that he has somebody in his corner who's looking out for him because there are females, as we all know, who are just looking for a bag, looking for a come up,

and they will sink their teeth into this rookie if she's not careful. But what I will say is that this is not the first instance of her showing, kind of like being a protective mom. We saw him court side at the Wizards game, and she just looks out and at for him in these little moments, like telling him to put his phone down, and the camera's right there,

or actually getting her license to be a manager and be an agent. So she's really invested in him and his career and wants to be there for him as a guide. And I can appreciate her going out of her way to make sure that her baby's okay for the long run in this league, because people can get really, really derailed

from excellent careers because of all the outside background noise. Yeah, y'all like the mom injuries, man. You know, like even Lamar Jackson's mom when he was renegotiating this contract. And I love the moms that try to protect their sons and stay on top of it. Well, if he catches that right blow job, mom, ain't nothing you can do about it, nigga. Sorry, mom. It's a W. do about it, nigga. Sorry, mom.

It's a W-R-A-P. Yeah, he catched that. And he young, too, you know, he might not have had his dick suck good yet, pause, by the right female. Mom ain't gonna be in that room when that happen, man. And then when he start sneaking off and selling, sending zels and cash apps and all that,

it ain't gonna be a lot, because he gonna get a lot of money. Mom can't stop that blow job from the right female. So I'm glad she looking out for him, but at the same time, we see a lot of athletes that go against their parents and say, listen, mom, I like her. No disrespect, God bless the dad.

God bless the dad. I know it sounds funny when I say shit, but I'm being honest with you. Kobe Bryant didn't speak to his parents no more, my man. You know what I'm saying? Like for his wife, and that ended up being his wife, and he had a beautiful family and everything else. But think about that, he absolutely stopped speaking

to his family, and luckily it was the right female. He ended up having, like I said, a beautiful family, but once you're grown, you're grown, and you can't stop a man from being a man. I was watching an Instagram video probably about eight, nine weeks ago, maybe three, four months, and it was a big argument, and I'd like to know your opinion on this, Mike.

And my mother's passed away right now, and I'm not sure if your mother's alive or not, but I want to know your opinion on this. No, she's in heaven. Yeah, my mom passed us. passed away right now, and I'm not sure if your mother's alive or not, but I want to niche your opinion on this. She's in heaven. Yeah, my mom passed us. Like my condolences. If your mom and your wife

are arguing for the passenger seat, who's sitting in it? That's a great question. And I was blessed that for some reason, my mother and my wife were very close. Her mother and me were very close. Her mother used to put me back together after them all nighters.

You know what I'm saying? I'm out all night, wilding out. I come home, she was, baby, come on, ain't nothing but the devil. We gotta get you cleaned up, they ain't nobody going nowhere. Ain't nobody leaving, I been all night. I got mom said, she ain't going nowhere. I just get gone, get yourself sobered up and get ready.

You see, we were that close and I love her, I love her. She stays with me, she lived with me until the day she passed. We built rooms in our homes for our mothers, my mother's quarters. My mother-in-law died in that room. My mom would never come because she wouldn't leave that little place we had in Florida.

You know, she didn't want to leave that. But I'm very close with it. My mom wouldn't even put me in that situation. She would take the backseat, because she's saying, that's your wife. And she knows she controlled my wife. So they were so close. You know, so it worked out well for me.

I tell dudes all the time, let me tell you how to make this work with your wife. You make sure that you don't just bring her on, bring all of her whole support system with you. I take care of my mom and the daughter and her sister. So when you mess up and you will mess up, she's going to go to them, and they'll tell her, go on back there, that's my good boy,

he just made a bad decision, and you'll be fine. You gotta make sure you support what she loves. Yeah, so the thing is, buy the family off. That's what you're basically saying. So when you get caught cheating the fuck up, you already bought the whole family off. So it ain't no choice, because she has nobody to go to,

because you already bought her family off. Is that what you're saying? I'm family. I'm family. I'm family. I'm family. I'm family. I'm family.

I'm family. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Now, let me ask Arabia the same question.

Arabia, you're married to somebody, and, you know, hypothetically, and you've been married for six years, you have a kid, something like that. And his mother wants to get in the front seat of you and your husband's car. Are you mad if your husband wants his mother to get in the front seat of you and your husband's car. Are you mad if your husband wants his mother to get in the front seat over you?

And y'all been together over half a decade? No, I'm just not petty. She can get in the front seat. I don't care about the front seat that bad to be mad about the front seat. I feel like a more accurate comparison is like, if my husband and my dad, they're going back and forth about who gets the front seat.

At that point, both y'all can get in the back seat or y'all can't come back. You're not about to put me in the middle of nothing. So yeah, no, I'm not playing with the front seat, back seat. Yeah, see, that's why I love females that's not from New York. That shit would be a big problem in New York.

It would be a whole fucking big ass problem if these girl would tell you, suck my dick out though, that type of shit. That would be, it would be a whole fucking big ass problem if these girl would tell you suck my dick after all that and all type of shit. That would be, it would be a big problem. Shug no. Shug looking at me like don't even ask me that question right now nigga. I dig it but I just was wondering,

but at the end of the day I really do support what these mothers are trying to do. And like I said, we've seen it in music as well, but they call mom injures in music. But I do respect she's trying to get her license to I said, we've seen it in music as well, but they call mom-in-jures in music. But I do respect she's trying to get her license to be an agent, Lamar Jackson's mother, any other mother that I'm not mentioning. I do really love that mothers are taking an intricate

space in their child's career. But once they meet that right one, baby. Rap. Yeah. It's gonna be hell right one, baby. Rap. Yeah. It's gonna be hell in there, boy. I tell you that right now. And another thing, last thing I'll say is this. I know that there's females out there

that's looking specifically just to get at athletes. For his mother to say that, he may have a bitch problem, which you think, right? He may be liking the bitches too much. Because why would she say that? If he wasn bitch problem, which you think, right? He may be liking the bitches too much. Because why would she say that? If he wasn't into the bitches like that, it wouldn't be, she wouldn't be scared about it. I just feel like she also knows by seeing,

like I feel like as a mom, like especially when you see your son, you know how good he's about to be. And that's when people just start flocking. She's just trying to cut all that now. Cause the thing about Jayden Daniels, he has no drama, no outside issues. You can solely focus on his craft and how he plays football.

And that's how it should be because there's nothing, there's no outside source affecting what he's got going on in his praise and what he's doing. So I support it. I don't know if I feel like he got a problem cause I do feel like she has him super locked in. And then article even came out that he had like the VR headset to like lock in with his plays and how he was doing stuff so I think like

That's the image that's putting that's being put out That's probably the reality and it should stick that way because that only helps his legacy as he's starting off at such a young age And doing all the great things that he's doing I think the reason I even keep bringing up Lamar Jackson's because you don't hear no shit about him neither. And his mother's, I mean his mother's very intricate in the part of his career. I remember a few weeks ago before the playoffs started and he was talking, he said, me and my mom said I missed some running plays I should have took off and scrambled for and I'm like, my mom is sitting there telling me to stop waiting and take off. So that's how important she is in as far as his career to where he's even mentioned in her post game.

So great points to that. Okay, we're gonna go to break. When we return, we will talk about Sunday's game, the Chiefs versus the Bills. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like option

Maybe I'm my own problem babe She tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall oh oh Killing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about wanna be free Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day on Sunday. The Bills versus the Chiefs. Underdog has Josh Allen at 283 and a half passing and rushing yards. Do you have him higher or lower?

Lower. Okay. Travis Kelce is at six and a half receptions rushing yards. Do you have them higher or lower camp? Lower. Okay, Travis Kelsey is at six and a half receptions. How are you feeling? Lower. Okay, and Xavier, where are these at? 56 and a half rushing and receiving yards combined. What do you think?

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to see my exclusive interview with Glenn Big Baby Davis. I interviewed him right before he went to jail. He talks about why he feels he's going to jail and why he shouldn't be going to jail and who told on him. And we're not going to throw those names out there. We ain't doing that on my motherfucking show. But talk with Flea immediately following this show. My interview with Glenn Big Baby Davis one week prior before his incarceration. Okay. So Sunday, Bills versus the Chiefs. Mike, let's just get straight to it. Is this the game the Chiefs will lose?

And this is the best chance Josh Allen will ever have to take out Patrick Mahomes. The Bills right now, second in scoring in NFL, averaging 30 points. The Chiefs are only putting up about 22 points a game. And what Josh has done this season to get him to this place where, the last four or five games he hasn't had a turnover.

That's the thing that got him in trouble. All other times he's played Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, in the playoff. Now he had beaten him in the regular season, but he never did this in the playoffs. And he hasn't exercised that demon this week. I think it's the best chance he will ever have to go and take down the king.

And he has to do it right here, right now. That being said, I think back to our opportunity to three-peat, the first thing I say I wish we would have made sure that we had because it's already difficult to three-peat because everybody's, first of all, after you win the first Super Bowl, you become everybody's Super Bowl.

Then you win a second one in a row, you really, you know, ante up, and everybody's ready to play you. That third one is such a hard track. The key thing that Kansas City got is they got that game at home. We had to go on the road and play San Francisco, spotted them 21 points, we closed and came back,

but they ultimately won the game. This game's at home and Kansas City will use all the energy they can. They are this close, this close, to having an opportunity to three-peat and as great as Buffalo has played this year, I don't think 15 and 87 is going to allow Kansas City to lose. And I gotta say this too,

because talk about this today on TV. I don't know what the hell's going on. Everybody know the only damn person you got to stop is 87. And when you catch the ball, ain't a damn person three, four yards in front of, around him. That blows my mind. I don't understand how they let Trevor Kelsey run so free. I understand that he's breaking off plays and everything. I keep saying, I don't understand how they let Travis Kelce run so free. I understand that he's breaking off plays and everything.

I keep saying, I don't understand why defense won't go boxing, warn him. Like in bachelor, I'm going to run 10 dudes on defense and one dude, you just beat up Travis Kelce. The only way Kansas City loses this game is if they can take Travis Kelce out of the game. Okay. And then Arabia, is this the game the Chiefs lose? Yeah, people keep saying that this is going to be a rematch in week 11, but it's really not.

It's really, really not. This is post-season football and the stakes are so much higher. Post-season football is way different than regular season football. So we're seeing a situation where Josh Allen is finally trying to slay the dragon and the Chiefs are looking to do what has never been done before, which is win three Super Bowls in a row.

I have the Chiefs winning only because of that home field advantage, but I do think it'll be a really close game. I don't think the Bills are going to go down without a fight and I also wouldn't be surprised if the Bills won, but I just can't go against the Chiefs and what they've been doing for the past, honestly, five years, but two years in a row. I gotta give it to the Chiefs. Damn, man. You know why? Because Josh Allen, MVP fucking caliber season. But you can't get it done against Patrick Mahomes. It's just, everything says to me

that Buffalo should win this game. But sometimes niggas just got you a number. And we can sit here and go with the numbers and who averages the most points and how terrible. You know, for week after week, for 17 weeks we sat here and said, damn, Kansas City isn't playing good, Kansas City isn't playing good. Kansas City isn't playing good.

Kansas City, and they win every time they say that they're not playing good. They still find a way to win, whether it's defense, whether it's special teams, whether they're a freezer helping out, whether it's Miss Fieldgoal, whether it's Taylor Swift, whatever the fuck it is, they have not really played good all year and still only lost one game. Well, they technically lost two, but I don't even count that shit at the end of the season against the Broncos.

But they find ways to win. Like Mike said, this is really, really the best time to get past Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs. But Mike, man, me and you both old enough to remember when the motherfuckers went to the Super Bowl four times in a row and couldn't get that shit done. Four in a row, four Super Bowls in a row. That wasn't boring yet. But they could not get the shit done. And I feel like this is the same situation when you play against Patrick Mahomes.

For Josh Allen, my personal opinion is, and like I said, I had him winning the MVP. I don't know if it's going to be him or Lamar Jackson, but to me, I would have voted for Josh Allen because I thought he was spectacular. Even though Lamar Jackson had record breaking numbers, both passing and rushing this year. I just think that it was a big deal that Stefan Diggs left and they was like, oh, his number one receiver left this. You keep letting him out, I ain't even realize that shit was hendering me.

He was in my motherfucking way crying for the ball all the time. And I think that he had a great, great season. So that's why I would have voted for him. But sometimes it's just kryptonite to certain niggas. And I think that the Bills would have went to the Super Bowl if they didn't have to play the Chiefs. Just my personal opinion.

So should the Bills win? Yeah. But I don't think that they is something with Patrick Mahomes and them niggas when it comes to the playoffs where they can't get it done. So I'm going with the Chiefs. And then quick question for you, Mike. One common thread in the divisional round last weekend is that all of the winners had zero turnovers and all of the losers had turnovers. The Lions had five turnovers.

The Ravens had three turnovers. The Rams had two turnovers. The only exception are the Texans. The Texans were the only team that lost that had zero turnovers. The Chiefs had two fumbles. They just happened to recover those fumbles. So one key for the Bills may be, the Chiefs may give you opportunities.

If they give you these tiny nuggets of opportunities, you have to capitalize off of those. It doesn't happen very often, but if you get it, you gotta capitalize off of it. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. The Chiefs are what I call those never ever guys. They do things that had never ever been done before.

I was working the other day and I saw something where what you just talked about, the team that had 100 plus yards more than the opponent with zero turnovers going into that game, the Texans can't see the Chiefs game. They were 46 and oh, and now they're 46 and one because the Chiefs said,

we gonna do it never ever. That's like they're trying to do on the three-peat. We're going to do it never ever. And I can't doubt them when they doing those things that they do. Never has a team won when you had plus 100 yards more than them. And that team had zero turnovers. Texans had that over Kansas City, but 15 and 87 still won the game.

OK, so moving on to the Bears. So they named the Lions offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson, as their next head coach. She had been the Lions offensive coordinator the past three seasons He said there's no doubt Kayla Williams played a large component in my decision So Mike, how do you feel about this new era for Chicago? I Think it's a great hire in this sense, you know, I know Chicago was looking for a more established Head coach, you know in this sense. I know Chicago was looking for a more established head coach. They tried those guys. I thought they would go for a more established head coach,

but what was most important, and I thought they took care of it, and I saw Cate Williams talking about it on one of the podcasts, I think, with Armand Ross St. Brown. He talked about, I wanted an offensive minded head coach. And Ben Johnson is just that. Now I worry about his ability to manage

all of the other things that go on with the football team. But I love the fact that he's going to be calling the plays because I want to see what he does in developing Caleb Williams. And I love when I saw him do an interview, he was talking about, yeah, this guy has special talent. Look at the things he did with Jared Goff. I'm talking about Ben Johnson,

the things he did with Jared Goff. Jared Goff didn't want to go up the field as much with the ball like we talked about. That's why they got him out of the Rams. Now, Ben Johnson comes in and said, okay, you just be fishing and throw the short passes. We'll do certain things to get the big plays. You know, I'm a throw this ball the same round.

He's going to pitch it back in. Jamison was willing to run a pass. Now, those are the kind of things that I look for Ben Johnson to do with Caleb Williams. That means not one of these old coaches who's trying to fit this kid's talent in his stubborn old offense. I needed a guy that's going to build an offense around the talent he has and that stability. I think Ben Johnson has, and I think that's what he brings

and that's what Caleb Williams need. Okay, Arabia. Yeah, Ben Johnson mentioned the fact that quarterback success is now the most accurate predictor of team wins and losses. It used to be turnover ratio. We just talked about it in the divisional round. For the past 20 years, it's been turnover ratio to predict teams and losses,

but now it's quarterback success. So he said that he's gonna recalibrate the team around Caleb Williams, which I think will be really, really interesting. Another thing is he said that he knew he wasn't coming back to Detroit in the off season and the summertime before the Lions even got started. So knowing that you aren't coming back throughout the whole season, you're going to war week after week with the guy to your left and the guy to your right.

And you know, like, I'm not coming back here, regardless of the outcome. I think it's very interesting and it makes sense why this happened so fast. This seems to happen like immediately after, you know, they ended the playoffs and he pretty much knew where he was going. He didn't even go in person. This was all through Zoom pretty much immediately. And he even confirmed he's like, I didn't need to come see it. I felt the energy. It was right.

I knew I wanted to be here in the division, which is also very interesting when when coaches and players stay within that division. So it'll be interesting to see how he develops Caleb Williams and that offense and how he's also able to spread himself throughout the whole team because now he can't just focus on the offense. He has to dedicate time and attention to defense, the special teams and just be 360 with the team. So we'll see how it develops. Okay. Let me ask y'all something, man. And I'm asking as a, cause I don't know.

What is the price difference or the part of me, the salary difference between like an offense coordinator and a head coach? Like it has to be tremendous difference. And I'm just asking cause I don't know. an offense coordinator and a head coach. Like it has to be tremendous difference. And I'm just asking because I don't know. And I know you guys are way more in tune with that than I am. There's a difference.

A big difference. There's a difference. There's a difference. Now, what you see sometimes is, and it usually is a big difference, but what you see sometimes now, some people wanting to hold on to their offensive coordinator, hold on to their defensive coordinators.

So when teams come after them, they up the ante on the money. So you say, okay, we don't want you to go be a head coach. And the guy's probably saying, I don't necessarily want that job right now anyway, just like Ben Johnson did last year. You think they didn't up that ante? But they couldn't up it to keep them there forever.

You see what I mean? Ultimately, you're going to want that challenge. You're going to want the challenge to go and see if you can do it on your own. But the money can be different. The money can be a great difference. But coordinators are getting paid now. They're getting paid some pretty good money.

You have a reason to ask because sometimes you're a part of something great. can be a great difference, but coordinators are getting paid now. They're getting paid some pretty good money. Yeah, the reason I ask, because sometimes you're a part of something great, and then you just leave to be a part of some shit that you like, I'ma do this because I want to have coaching opportunity and I want to do things my way, and then it just ends up not looking good.

I mean, I know Tom Brady left, but look at Josh Daniels, it's like, what the fuck? Where's Eric Brandon? He's coaching the Sal's like, what the fuck? Where's Eric Brandon? He's coaching the Salvation Army. Where the fuck is he at? Like, the nigga was a great offensive coordinator or what he was working with the Chiefs. Look at, I mean, I know Tyree Kill is a player,

but niggas be leaving great opportune, great systems for the money, and I get it. Go get your money, especially if you got a ring already. Like, well, I got the ring, let me go get my bread. But then when you sit there and complain about not winning, knowing that you may have went to a not winning situation and the team that you left is still winning without you, you're like, was this really worth the money

when I maybe could have got the money a couple years later? That's why I was asking what's the difference because they was acting like Eric Barney was a fucking genius. Then he went down there with her commanders and shit and we seen that he may not have been the genius we want. Then he went to UCLA, I believe, and now I don't even know if he's still at UCLA.

That nigga might be coaching PAL. So was it worth it? To give you a number, so the highest paid OCs are making about three million annually, and then we know head coaches are making 20 mil, 18 mil, 17 mil, so that's kinda like the price difference. Yeah, but that's a great point, Steph, right? So you're making three million a year,

and if you're an exceptional, maybe they'll push it up to four million. Just guessing, I have no idea. And you're thinking that maybe you could get up to 20 million if the best coach is, but then if you don't do well and you're thinking that maybe you could get up to 20 million if the best coaches, but then if you don't do well and you fail, you can be back in college making half of what you made

as an offensive coordinator possibly. No, it's a gamble, especially going to the fucking Bears. Yeah, I feel like sometimes it happens with players too where like, if you've been in the NFL for a long enough time, yes, money continues to be some sort of motivator. But after a while, you start to think about the legacy and what you're going to leave with. And the money is cool, especially if you get in the bag for the first time. But I know players specifically who are like, look, I've read

their players who take pay cuts so that other players can come to their team and they can try to really be contenders and compete. So sometimes they're leaving this coordinator position to be like, or if they're under a head coach and they're like, I can do this. I feel like I can really challenge myself and put myself in a position to make a name for myself. So sometimes it's more about like,

what you, the mark that you can leave on the league and less about just like a money grab? No, I totally agree with you. I know players all the time. Look, we seen Tyreek Hill just complaining about the shit. When Miami didn't make it. And then we see people like James Hart and get a bunch of money, and then he says,

you know what, I don't want 103 million for two years to stay in Houston. I'm gonna take less money to go play at the Nets with Brooklyn and Brooklyn with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvin didn't work out. Then you know what, let me try and get to Philadelphia to play with Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons and it doesn't work out.

So I understand people are sacrificing to try and get championships. And I get that, I like that people are trying to win and it's not necessarily about the money, but then you sometimes you take these chances and then they don't get the ring and then you miss out on the money and then you fucked either way, pause.

So that's why I was just asking more about that. I know more about basketball, these situations than football, that's why I was asking you to how it worked because I had no idea what the salaries were as far as offensive coordinators were concerned. But you're right in the sense, Cam, like I even tell you, I remember talking with Alvin Harper

when he got the opportunity to go to Tampa. I said, man, let's stay here and win a lot of games. And he said, man, I want to challenge myself and see if I can take on your role. And a few years later, Harper's out the league. You see what I'm saying? I was talking to somebody the other day about T. Higgins. I said, okay, you know, you got it going good

in Cincinnati, you run out of Cincinnati, you end up somewhere, you know, I know Pittsburgh wanted them and you don't have a quarterback. And yeah, you'll make those first few years because they're gonna give you guaranteed money. But after that, where do your career go? So, you know, you guys gotta make sure,

make smart decisions. Yeah, you want the bag, but you want the opportunity to be successful over a longer period of time so you can accumulate more than just that one bag. Yeah, absolutely, Mike. I mean, we sat there and watched it with Amari Cooper. He wanted to get out of Dallas, get the fuck in Cleveland, stunk it up in Cleveland, not necessarily due to him,

you know, the quarterback play wasn't that good. But when he got traded to Buffalo, the nigga, and I'm not exaggerating, we talked about, as a matter of fact, Mike, he was on the show, the nigga drove. He was in his car waiting for his agent to say, okay, it's done, and the nigga pulled off and drove from Cleveland to Buffalo like five six hours

That's how fast he wanted to get out of Cleveland, but he also wanted to get out of Dallas So he's in a good situation now, but think about if that didn't happen I'm not saying that Dallas was a place to be neither with all that shit going on down there with y'all niggas but on down there with y'all niggas. But. Mm. Mm. Mm-mm.

No further words, Mike? Yeah, it's a lot going on. It's a lot going on. Sometimes when we get to this place, I'm okay with being in this place. And everybody out there, if you don't win first place, nigga, you just like the last place team.

You might as well be last. They only get rings the first. Second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth. Now, right down there, we're 32. So it doesn't matter. You gotta win all of it to be able to say we won it all. So yeah, I understand that. There's a lot going on, but this will give us a chance.

The worse it gets, the more you have a reason to go call that ghost buster on Dion Sanders. Yep. Here we have Dion. All right, I'm gonna call Dion, man. Dion, if he tell you before. Sure as fuck, here, here. Here, you go see, you know, right?

I do this, look, get it together thing on speak. And today, because we're going to the Super Bowl, so they didn't want to do one of the four teams, we'll do both teams at the Super Bowl. They gave me a chance to do whatever I wanted. So I spoke to Jerry Jones about making this higher and how important this higher is. I said, we need togetherness on the field

with discipline and collective will. And we need hope off the field. And the only way you can spell hope for us is D-E-I-O-N. Oh my God. You see what I'm saying? And I said that at the time. Well, I'm trying to get a minute. That's crazy, Mike.

No, not at all. You can't spell hope, you can't spell when, you can't spell nothing with Jerry Jones. It's really a rap for that organization. And so Jerry Jones is, I don't care who they get in there, it's quiet for y'all until Jerry kicks the bucket. Oh shit, that's, oh shit. That was a wild take right there.

I'm gonna let this go. I don't understand. I don't understand since you opened the door, your honor, I can come in the door, I can walk in the door. So I don't understand why we stay on Jerry all the time. The Rooney's are running the same kind of operation. The same kind. But we don't stay on the Rooney's, we just stay on Jerry. And I believe what we've done by coming up

with so much mess is give these niggas an excuse on the football field. Cause we keep blaming Jerry Jones. Nigga, you were 12 and five, three years in a row. Get your ass past these teams in the playoffs. Jerry Jones didn't play not one snap, didn't run not one route, didn't make no one tackle. Why do we have to always go after Jerry

if he put enough talent on the field to go 12 to five? You got enough talent to go win a Super Bowl. So I'm not putting all that on Jerry. I put that on y'all, giving these niggas an excuse, always trying to go after Jerry, as opposed to going after Rony or the Rooney's or anything like that. It's that thing that bothers me. I'm just saying. You ain't gotta like Jerry, but let's stop letting these niggas off the hook.

Jerry Jones is not setting his team up for success at all and he's so involved in everything. He wears the President hat and the GM hat and the owner hat. Wait wait wait, 12 and 5, wait, wait, wait, 12 and five, three years in a row, that was not success. Who set that up? You see what I'm saying? Who set that up? Was there somebody that stuck in Jerry Jones' body

for those three years? This is what I'm saying, it's the rhetoric that we perpetuate that has been based. I'm confused though, because not two minutes ago, you said it's only one ring that they give out. All the other 31 teams is on the same level so 12 and 5 in the regular season is not successful according to what you just said. No, you're making my point. 12 and 5 is successful in the regular season so if you had enough equipment in the building to get the 12 and 5 in the regular season

these are your decisions and your ass not making a plays in the playoffs. So throw that to Jerry Jones too. And that is Jerry Jones. That's them niggas on the field. Stop giving them excuses. That's all I'm saying. I'll let it go.

I'll let it go, but I'm just saying. Yeah, I think two things can be true at once. That's the last thing I'm saying. It's getting cold in here. That's it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, saying. Man, listen, well, I know we got to get ready, right? But Nick, I don't care what's going on. Let's try and play it for Mike if we could. I'll have a clip for you, Mike, if we can upload it.

I'll take knowledge in hand. They handed it to me. Put my damn championship on the table. That's all we have. Put your damn championship on the table that's all we have put your damn championship on the table and you're good doing all this gotta go Yeah. Yeah. That's what I say.

That's what I say. You had a good enough team. You had a good enough team. We keep coming up with why this happened, why that happened, why that happened. I don't wanna hear that. I don't wanna hear it. Put your championship on the damn table.

Tell me what championship said before you got here. Your responsibility is to match what was given to you. While you carry it, put your damn championship on the table. Right here, your responsibility is to match what was given to you while you carried. Put your damn championship on the table. I'll put mine on every table. You put yours on the table. Stop giving me these excuses. Jerry Jones ain't playing now.

One damn snap. Not one snap. That's all I'm saying, guys. Not one snap. Never. Mike, you said all the answers had to go and they're still there. Who had to go that year?

No, no, they're going now. They're going now. You got a plan, Mike. You got a plan. They're getting out of there. I like this NFC East rivalry on the show, man. We got to think about how to get this part to pop in next season, man. But I really do like this rivalry.

And right now, Arabia's up, Mike. And I see your passion, I see you upset. But I will agree with you on this, Mike. It's like James Dolan, too. A lot of people put a blame on James Dolan as far as the New York Knicks is concerned and say it won't get done until he's out. But he always paying niggas.

Jerry Jones be paying, you know, I'm so mad he had to give Dak Prescott 60 fucking million a year. I'm mad about this shit. Be totally honest with you, I know that's what the market called for, et cetera, and they might be saving the money in the long run and all that other fly shit.

But when you pay these niggas, they crying, where the fuck is Zeke Elliott at? He was on the practice squad for the Rams two weeks ago. These niggas be wanting all this bread and don't be producing. And Jerry do be paying niggas. Same thing with James Dolan. You want fucking Phil Jackson.

I give you Phil Jackson. You want fucking Isaiah Thomas. Give you Isaiah Thomas. You want Carmelo Andes. What the fuck you want him to do? He can't lay the ball up. But rabies is up right now because the commanders are still in it,

and Dallas isn't. Put my damn championship on the table! That's all we ask for! That audience has gotta go. You said it. You know what I also wanna say about that? Last thing I'll say, you know why we still in it,

and one thing talking about Jerry Jones, we got rid of our owner and and magically like poof it's like a totally different organization. It's almost as if leadership from the top has a trickle down effect. It's almost as if the first people you have running your organization, especially if they wear three different hats, has a significant effect on your organization from the top down. All I'm saying is we made some owner changes and plus some more, you know, coachings and 80, 70% raws are turnover.

There was a lot. Two things could be true at once. We had some personnel changes as well. But I'm saying that ownership part might've been the start to us being a problem for y'all twice a year. Ooh. So.

But hold on. Hold on. I like sassy. We need the popcorn today. Yeah, I like that sassy shit. That's just fiery right there. I like that. But real quick, I'm not jumping in. You didn't get rid of your owner.

You forced him out of there and started calling rape allegations. Everything. You've been trying to get him out for years. The nigga wouldn't leave. So now, I'm not saying, and listen, I don't support no rape shit and no foul shit in the workplace

and none of that shit with females, especially, I don't support, stat know that. But niggas said, we gotta get some allegations. This nigga won't get the fuck out of here, man. This nigga will not leave, man. Can we get an allegation or two against the motherfucker to get him out? Now, if maybe you're right, once he left, y'all knew it.

The shit was good, but don't act like y'all just got rid of the nigga, cause that nigga will not leave for nothing. They've been trying to get that nigga out of there for decades just about. He's like, kiss my motherfucking ass. I'm not going nowhere. Nigga said he molested chicks in the lunchroom and all that. I'm not saying he was or wasn't. And if he said he molested chicks in the lunchroom and all that.

I'm not saying he was or wasn't. And if he was, you're a nasty motherfucker. I don't know exactly what happened. But I know it wasn't, he didn't leave by choice and y'all didn't kick him out. Some charges or some shit, if I remember correctly, Arabia. But you're right, once he left, shit did change. Thanks.

Well, that's all the time that we have for today. Mike, do not let the commanders win on Sunday. Because Arabia, she had a whole team belt. I'm hoping they win. She ready. She's ready. Right. She belted it.

I'm with her. I'm with her. I come in peace. I hope you win. I hope the commanders win. I just don't believe they will, but I hope they do. I hope you win. I hope the commanders win, I just don't believe they will, but I hope they do, I hope they do.

I'm gonna keep a real rabies, it was killing today until she put that Michigan hat, because Mo is, Maurice Cloret is up, y'all are lost, and I see each other, congratulations to him on Instagram, it didn't seem sincere whatsoever, and I didn't even think that was a real congratulations you gave to Maurice Cloret. And now that you put that Michigan hat on,

I know you're really salty about Ohio State warning. So thank you for confirming what I thought. Facts. Yeah, I was sick to my stomach. I'm still sick to my stomach. Yeah. Well, you got a chance to do it on NFL, man. Facts. Thank you guys, man. You guys been sensational today, you got a chance to do it on NFL, man. Thanks. Thank you guys, man.

You guys been sensational today. It was a pleasure to see y'all both. Arabia. Okay, Arabia, Arabia, it was a pleasure working with you and anytime you want these three pieces, bam, bam, bam. Just go. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait to do it again. I'm gonna give you hell every time I see you. I'm looking forward to it. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!