IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE JETS FINALLY BROKE UP WITH AARON RODGERS & NBA ALL STAR WEEKEND! |S6 EP22

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, Maurice Clarett joins the show to discuss the NY Jets finally breaking up with Aaron Rodgers, after telling the former NFL MVP that they're cutting ties with him, what's next for AR12?! Then, Alabama wants teams to forfeit games if the fans rush the field, are they reaching??? Next, Teofimo Lopez taking it too far with Keyshawn Davis and more changes to NBA All Star this weekend! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Treasure Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Really? Talking to Sin City. Yeah, shout out to Sin City. You see me, sir?

Yo. Wow, this nigga's his hair is amazing, man. All I'm gonna say is this, Ronnie, I don't have that jacket, and don't send it to me now. I want a different color. I don't want that color. I'm really, I'm gonna be honest with you. It isn't about the Knicks, it isn't about,

it is about Mase because now, I don't know, maybe he's Title Town from 1973. Possibly. Maybe he's from that Title Town out there, so I'm not even gonna have a conversation with him about the Knicks, about. I'm more disappointed after all the campaigns I did for you, Ronnie, over there, Kiff,

that I don't have a lover neck jacket. This actually the jacket I see him wearing, court side. It's all good, Ronnie. You keep sending me the low end neck shit. Not saying it ain't good. I got a bunch of low end neck shit in my crib, but I ain't get the love. It's all good.

You know why? Because Ronnie call you when you hot, pause. I'm gonna stay hot. I'm gonna stop putting that in the contract. I'm gonna stop with- He called you when you hot. Oh, he called you when he hot. You know, Ronnie called, he called Dipset,

we did the campaign at Madison Square Garden for him. Yeah. And then we did verses and lyrics to the locks, and I seen the locks at Madison Square Garden during the campaign. Leezy letting you know we need the hot shit. It's all good, I ain't about to cool off, it's all good, man.

Oh man, Mo, what's up, man? Life's good, baby, what's going on? Look at this, yo, come on, Mo. I didn't even give Mo an intro, stop. Mo. I was gonna say something about, he said he was, come on, Mo. I didn't even give him my intro, snap. I was gonna say something about it. He said he was on the move, but. Yeah, we don't know what, this move is crazy.

This nigga like to boogie. I don't know what kind of move he on. Titled, they are definitely on the move with that, man. Yeah, Maurice, how you feel about Mase's getup? That's what we'll call it. Hey, well, it look like he, you know, fair weather fan. That's all I can say.

Yeah. Moe got on Crenshaw. Moe ain't from Crenshaw. Gotta support the marathon, man. Gotta support Nipsey, man. Definitely. I support that. Yeah, we support that.

Support the mission. We support that. Okay, so we're actually gonna start with Aaron Rodgers. So the Jets decided to part ways with him. In a statement released by the team, they said, "'It was important to have this discussion now to provide clarity and enable each of us

the proper time to plan for our respective futures. We want to thank him for the leadership, passion, and dedication he brought to the organization and wish him success moving forward. Maurice, do you think the Jets made the right decision? Yeah, they just, they seen what he tried to do, you know, with the last coaches with trying to assemble a team

and trying to duplicate what Tom Brady did down there in Tampa Bay. And it didn't work out and it seemed like a dumpster fire after any and every move that was made. And it just felt like the jets weren't getting any better and it felt like that they just needed to wipe the slate clean, bring in new coaches, bring in new staff and basically just clean out the closet per se and just go into a new direction. So this is the time you do it. I'm pretty sure they'll willing deal in the draft, willing deal in free agency

and try to bring somebody in, come into OTAs and things of that nature. But I think that they made the right decision. Yeah, it was really, I mean, it was really nothing else they could do with this team. I mean, from the year ago, from the moment he got hurt, everything was downhill. We knew there was going to be changes made.

We just didn't know how soon. And I mean, I'm going to say congratulations to the judge. Congratulations for them for having the wherewithal to make this move. Because some people would have tried to see what it will look like if he's healthy next season. Some people do that. And I'm glad they had the courage to just say, no, we're not gonna prolong this

and have another bad year for the Jets and become the next year after next year after next year team and actually get it done this year. So this opened the window for, you know, free agency and different people that they could bring in Yeah, um May say I rise is gonna do good this season said just was actually a sleeper team They were supposed to get it done this year. That's who he was going with outside of Kansas City

So for him to make that statement, that's very grown of him. And I'm very proud of him that he's making that statement. I'm actually proud that he's done that. That he knows that's the right thing to do, cause it's the right thing to do. Look, Aaron Rodgers got coaches fired. He wanted nigga, yo, bring in my man over here, man. Fuck it, good luck out there,

I'm sitting out there at the Raiders. Get the nigga over here. Like you said, Mo, I like that term you use, a dumpster fire. That's all there's been. And I don't think that the Jets would've had a problem keeping Aaron Rodgers if, cause you know, listen, everybody's not always gonna have

the greatest season, even though this is statistically, when in loss column, this is worst season ever outside 2006 when he was 0-2. His worst statistical year is when in loss is concerned, ever. And the way he handles himself is probably the reason why they didn't wanna bring him back. We've seen everything from when the coach tried to give him a hug after throwing a touchdown

where he pushes the coach two weeks later after he pushes the coach, the coach is fired. He doesn't like the receivers they bring in his man. I have a great relationship with him from Green Bay. He's over there with the Raiders. He wants to get traded. They bring him over there to the Jets. They accommodated Aaron Rodgers

on every level that he wanted to. That everything, I can't say everything because we don't even know where he acts for behind the scenes. And it didn't get done. Not only didn't it even, it didn't say everything because we don't even know what he asked for behind the scenes. And it didn't get done. Not only didn't it even, it didn't get done. They weren't close. So the new regime at the Jets is saying,

nah, we ain't dealing with this. He ain't gonna get us camped. And that's like it's our fault. We gonna get rid of this shit, this problem right now. And I really feel bad for Aaron Rodgers because if you look at his career overall, he's one of the most talented quarterbacks ever. We don't have to sit there and talk about a bunch of rings,

like Brady or John Elway or Ben Roethlisberger or Eli Manning. And sometimes it isn't about the rings. You know, with Tom Brady, you know, it is about the rings. But the way he's going out, it doesn't look good. And purely because his attitude, and then his attitude is leaking on to the field. We looked at Drew Brees, he only has one Super Bowl too,

but he went out really good with the same team on his own accord. He didn't get another Super Bowl, but he walked out as one of them people, you could be like, yo, now, Drew Brees is a class act. Aaron Rodgers isn't leaving as a class act. He's leaving right now as a class act. He's leaving right now as a crybaby,

at least in just organization. Somebody throws tantrum, somebody who says I got to go back in the dark to see what I want to do. Says he took his COVID shot, lied about that. Not only lied about it, got caught in a line. Be like, oh well, I lied, so who gives a fuck? His attitude is terrible.

Will he retire? That's a question that has to be answered. But to me, Aaron Rodgers probably doesn't wanna go out this way. So I'm pretty sure he'll join another team to try to have a better season than he did last year. Cause I'm pretty sure it's a lot of teams, I'm not gonna say a lot,

but it's definitely a handful of teams that would love to have an Aaron Rodgers. So we'll see what happens. but I do commend the Jets from saying, no, if we gonna stink it up, it's gonna be on our own accord, and if we gonna win, it's gonna be on our own accord, but we can't allow Aaron Rodgers to dictate what goes on within this organization.

Stat, y'all, do you think y'all are taking Aaron Rodgers for you? No. No. But things have been happening that I haven't even expected throughout this whole year in all of sports. So if it happens, it's just like, of course. But no, I don't see it happening at all. I don't even think it would benefit us.

But what I was going to ask you guys, so obviously throughout the season, we saw all of Aaron Rodgers, Rodgers appearances on Pat McAfee show. Do you guys feel like that was an issue or a problem? Cause some reports were saying that's led to the reason why, which obviously that's not the full reason why, but Maurice, what did you, how did you feel about his appearances on the show throughout the season?

I would say, you know, I didn't watch it, you know, I didn't watch it, but I can see when you go back and say, what we were talking about earlier in the season with anybody is keep the main thing the main thing. And when you're winning, people accept this stuff. But when you're losing, nobody wants to hear anything you have to say other than you going back to the drum board and getting better.

And then when you're losing, people find reasons to hate you. They find reasons to discredit you, criticize you, so on and so forth. And we've talked about that with Michael Parsons and just other people who have these platforms. I don't know if America is ready for that, you know, for people to be like in the mainstream media and also be their celebrity, you know, because, you know, back in the day, the media needed to make you the celebrity. You know, it was other people who basically, you know, edified you or put you on a pedestal. And so to have athletes who now get to play dual roles at the same time, I just don't

think people are ready for that. So in short, I'm pretty sure it contributed to it. And I don't really have an opinion on it, but I'm pretty sure it contributed to people's opinion with Pat McAfee being as the platform being as big as this. Yeah. I think when people are watching you make the kind of money that players are making and whatever sport we choose to talk about that they really want you to win and they don't want wanting to look like your focus is all over the place, especially when

you're not doing well at the thing that started the other thing that's paying you is and this is we were just talking about this the other day about Paul George and people like that. So you're definitely right. And I concur when it comes to these types of things. You just gotta keep, like you said, the main thing, the main thing, because these other things are not the thing that's paying you the most.

And they seem like you're more focused on that and more passionate about that. And the fans and the organizations are taking a hit for it. And they gotta stop. They wanna go into full-time, you know, sports shows, and go into full-time sports shows, but you know, you're gonna have to do well at the main thing. Not just keep the main thing the main thing,

do well at the main thing. Yeah, both of you guys had great takes on that. And I haven't seen Aaron Rodgers this season or past season on Pat McAfee. But you're right, Mo. They didn't have a problem with the previous seasons because he's part of the reason Pat McAfee got the deal that he had.

He's been on Pat McAfee for a few years now, a couple years at least. And every Monday or Tuesday, whatever day it is, he comes in and helps. he gave Pat McAfee the credibility that he needed to have to, you know, be successful, not only be successful, get a slot on ESPN, not only get a slot on ESPN, curse at 12 in the afternoon Eastern on ESPN.

And he's part of that, you understand? But when you're not winning, it looks crazy. Like Mase just said, if you're winning, okay, but when you're not winning, it's not okay. No, that's just the way it is. And then when people, then when you have a season like he just had, what happens is people be like,

well, you know, the nigga ain't even really winning. Super Bowl in 12, 13 years now that we think about it the nigga ain't even really winning Super Bowl in 12, 13 years. Now that we think about it, he ain't been winning. Has he been having successful seasons? Yes, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since, so he's too busy worried about being on Pat McAfee. All that happens when you don't get to the big game

or win the big game, and then it gets magnified. So I agree with you guys 100%. Keep the main thing the main thing, but it definitely gets magnified. So I agree with you guys 100%. Keep the main thing the main thing, but it definitely gets magnified when you don't have the season. When you have the season, he just had, pardon me. Okay. And then moving along, so it looks like they're trying to have discussions about harsher punishments

for fans who storm the field. So the Alabama Athletic Director came up with the proposal and he said, I truly believe in forfeiting wins. If we said that the home team, if they storm the field or the court, they're going to lose that game right then and there, that will stop it. Maurice, do you think that's excessive?

Do you like this idea? What do you think about these discussions? Wow, this is what people do when they ain't winning. They start worrying about stupid stuff. And that's Wow, this is what people do when they ain't winning. They start worrying about stupid stuff. And that's typically what this is. And I wish Nick Saban was back down in Alabama for football and I wish that they were doing better with basketball because you start to talk about stupid

and trivial stuff or you start to make these arguments of stupid and trivial stuff. You know, it's an old saying that they say, you know, you can tell the nature of a man by the things he complains about. And when you look at this, this is trivial. You know, kids storm in the court or kids rush in the field as part of the collegiate athletics. You know, that's part of the fabric of it. That's part of like the college experience. And so when you're talking about the players who play the game, them being affected by something that they have nothing to do with,

I just think it's foolish and these guys need to focus to get back to winning so they can be talking about parades and all the other stuff that people do in Title Town. Hmm. Glad you brought that up, Mo. Mo, you actually misquoted that statement. It's, um, you could tell the nature of a man by what he focuses on. But...

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Do you think that's excessive? Yeah, it's too much, man. They got the pause. He got too much time on his hand thinking about that. Like if you thinking that you want to take a person's win away, cause what if two people run on the field? You can't just forfeit our wins cause two people storm the field. I mean, who made this up? Who's even thinking about this Alabama?

Yep. They got to chill out, man. They'll need Nick Saban back. They wilding out, man. They don't need Nick Saban back. They wildin' out right now. They need a black coach. They want, you on Liberay, Alabama, man. Get a black head coach. I think it's time for that anyway. They gettin' all this NIL money. Let a black coach coach Alabama.

But this is crazy. Things people do. I love your advocacy this month, you know? You've been... Yeah, I'm staying ten toes down. The NAICS, Black History Month, you know? You said Black Coach, you had to take about Black women, you had to take about Black woman, you had to take about. Yeah.

You were fighting. What do they call that? Emancipation? You know, freeing of, you know. Free at last. We're going to move on to this conversation. What do you think? You don't like my black history, do you? I didn't say that.

I'm trying to use the words that go with what you're talking about. You know, I see you. Me and Rosa Parks have the same birthday, actually. I'm joking. I won't go to the back. I won't go to the back. I'm not going to the back anywhere.

Me and Rose won't have the same birthday actually so. I dig it. But your murder, you see what Mo said? What did he say? He started off niggase, and I like that, Moe started off, nigga Moe said, that's what happen when you ain't winning. Yeah. Yeah, Moe.

Yeah. Yeah, Moe. Yeah. Yeah. He's not making up stuff. Now, when you talking to a champion, it's the reigning champion, Ohio State. That's how you supposed to start off.

This shit happens when you ain't winning. Coming from the, coming from currently Title Town right now, nigga Mo said, when you ain't got the parades and all that. I like that. Mo throwing shots subliminally. You say, this what happen when you missing out on the parades or you not winning.

You start this nonsense. No confetti and helmet and all that. Yeah, and all that, nigga. I caught that mob, nobody else did. I peaked it. And yeah, look, man, I dig it, man. I understand where niggas is coming from and I agree with you.

This is what happens when you're not winning. Because if you were winning, I don't think this would be a complaint at all. Now, if you wanna, what I will say is this, and it still won't be, and I'm just giving, giving the other side of the coin. If you really wanna do that, no more storming the court, feel whatever.

You're taking the foot out of it. I remember it was a time, the NFL, kinda like, and it wasn't that long ago, they kinda like banned celebrations for a minute. Like you couldn't do too much of a celebration, maybe spike the ball if you did a little dance or something. It was a penalty and they was like, yo, come on, y'all wild in there.

That's what makes it fun. They brought it back to where you can celebrate. You know, you can't be too derogatory, but you brought celebrations back. The best scenario, I can say Alabama, and I agree with Mace and Motel, I'm not on your side, I'm just giving a scenario. The best thing that you can do

is if your team loses in a home court, because let's say, for instance, you gotta, let's use basketball, you an unranked team. And you beat the number three team. And you're at the unranked team's home. They're gonna storm the field or the basketball court. Now, this is what I will say. Give the team a minute and 90 seconds,

the other team, to go back to the locker room. Because sometimes they get caught up in the melee and there's a bunch of people around them and they pushing niggas to get out. And you got people to say, yeah, yeah, yeah! Yeah, you just mad because you lost. All right, y'all got 60 seconds to get the fuck out of here. Because niggas gonna storm that field.

Or niggas gonna storm that court. Niggas will be looking at the shit, the clock. Three, two, all right, y'all gonna get off the court by now. a niggas gonna storm that court, niggas will be looking at the shit, the clock. Three, two, all right y'all let me get off the court by now. That's that, that's the best I can offer you. I'm not sitting here saying don't storm the field, don't storm the court, because that's part of the celebration. Most of the time, you're not just storming the field

or the court for a regular win. You're only doing that when it's a big time win or you're beating a rival. So it's not like an every game situation. Alabama, you guys been up for so many years that when you lose on somebody else's field, they're gonna storm the field, ranked or unranked. I'm talking about y'all, y'all always gonna be ranked

because y'all figure a way to cheat and be, you almost made it into the playoffs this season. And I'm glad y'all didn't. But at the end of the day, you're gonna find a way to get to stay ranked. So when you guys lose on somebody else's field, they're going to storm the field because of all the success that you had

the last however many years. It's just the way it is. I'm just giving you a idea, but I don't even support the idea I said. I'm just trying to make a suggestion. You got 45 seconds to get off the field, because niggas are storming that field. That's part of school spirit, man. It is what it is.

Yeah, I actually like the 60 minute rule. Because y'all got 60 seconds. Yeah. Y'all got time to move if you want to move. You get caught after that, bro. You standing out there trying to be a problem. Yeah. Yeah, great points.

Okay. So boxer Kishon Davis accused his opponent of sending him a box of bananas and watermelon. When talking about his Ukrainian opponent, he said he wants to address the fact that he came to America to give him bananas and a watermelon with a note on it. It's unprofessional, and I feel like it's racist. No, it is racist.

And you just made this fight a little more personal. So just, you know, leading up to the fight and hearing that type of issue going on, Maurice, what are your thoughts on this act, and how do you feel about what Keyshawn Davis said? fight and hearing that type of issue going on, Maurice, what are your thoughts on this act and how do you feel about what Keyshawn Davis said? Well, I actually caught a live video from him where he actually said it was Tiafimo Lopez, him and his father. And he had mentioned that, you know, Tiafimo Lopez and his father had did it, trying to cause friction with him and the Ukrainian dude.

So I won't even tax the Ukrainian, but if Teofimo did it, he's out of line. And that's his second time doing something like that. I know he was trying to fumble around and say why he did it the first time. But you don't get a chance to do all this shit over and over again. And you not have like some tinge of racism. Like it's a lot of ways to bait people and to talk shit and to do disrespectful shit. But I feel like people who play that race shit, they play it conveniently. You know what I'm saying? And so he basically, he knows who has done it. And I like at least respect him for at least going ahead and saying,

hey man, what the Ukrainian do? Because the Ukrainian do is like, hey, I have nothing to do with that. But he thought he did. And it eventually came out that he thought it was our TF-Femo. And he felt he had proof and wanted to go live to clear Buddy's name, whoever the Ukrainian guy's name is. Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. Once we find out that it's TF-Femo, the first thing I was thinking about is

TF-Femo, you didn't get that from coming up here. Pause. So when you came up here, you had a different energy about the racist things that he was saying. So this kind of make me look at it a different way. But then there's another aspect of this conversation. Let's say he did send him the bananas. Pause.

And he did send a watermelon in a box and it had a racist note Today it seems like trolling is the new advertisement. It seemed like you trolling is the new marketing So what do we say to that now as long as people names is being mentioned? You ever heard that statement that is no such thing as bad publicity. All publicity is good publicity So we have a generation that's growing up with a new mindset when it comes to trolling. They look at trolling as advertisement and marketing, or at least another form of marketing,

not the only way, the traditional way, but this is now the new age way to market yourself. So as long as it keeps his name hot, keeps his name in the algorithm, he's okay with that because that keeps him before people's eyes and on people's mind, even though it's for the wrong attention. And if somebody knock him out, people are going to be really happy about it. Yeah, I'm sitting here trying to remember, because Tiafimo was up here, and he kinda didn't back down from it.

He didn't, he said. Ask him about it. Yeah. Huh? You asked him about it. I asked him, but he wasn't like, he ain't count no plea, he had a friendly mannerism, but he wasn't like, nah, I was bugging, no.

I can't remember, but he was just like, he was saying it kinda like murder, saying it like, I was doing it for this reason I can't remember, he was just like, he was saying it kind of like murder, saying that like, I was doing it for this reason or that reason, I didn't really. But he didn't say, nah, I didn't mean it. I can't remember, but I remember, because I was sitting there looking at him, but he didn't make it seem like it was racist.

He tried to make it seem like, damn, I can't remember what he said. But whatever he said, he didn't back down from when we asked him about it. He was just friendly to us about it. Like, no, I wasn't- You said he was trying to get them to fight him. Yeah, something like that.

Exactly, exactly. So he didn't make it racist, but he's like, yeah, I did it. When hearing the story, I'm kinda upset that T.O. did that. Not that T, I mean, whatever, T.O. has a foot, that T.O., I mean, whatever T.O. has a foot and I don't know how long, so maybe this is a way to keep his name in it because to be honest with you, he might have helped out because I didn't know about the fight.

So I'm not saying that what he's doing isn't racist, but it seems like he's being more known for that in the last few months. This monkey banana shit he got going, brought me going on, then actually fighting. So it is what it is. When I first heard this, when Stat was reading it, I laughed because I ain't know a watermelon

or that shit came behind it. And I don't play that like, seriously, like on some G shit. I don't eat watermelon. I don't eat watermelon like, seriously, like on some G shit. I don't eat watermelon. I don't eat watermelon because I like fried chicken and I'm black, so to me, I'm not eating both. It's just like so wild. And you don't get it because you're younger.

They used to call black people fried chicken, watermelon eating niggas. That still happens. I don't know what's going on with y'all world. I'm just telling you. My world is different. We live in the same world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, it was a different lens, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, I really don't even eat watermelon. I'm not being funny. I really don't eat watermelon to this day. I don't even eat it because I'm like, I'm not... I had a meeting. I had a meeting, right? With this company, UTA.

Shout out to UTA. we do business with UTA. So the initial meeting they had with me, Mase wasn't there at this meeting, and it was a lunch meeting at their office. And I remember telling my partner that I was, I said, yeah, I'm gonna go to Roscoe's after the meeting and get something to eat after it's over. He said, yo, what they have in the lunch meeting or whatever.

I said, all right, cool. So when I get to the meeting, it's all white people and no disrespect, shout out to my guy, Orin, Jay Zimmer, everybody over there. Much respect, love y'all guys. So I get there, you know, I'm the only black guy there and everybody else got salad around the whole table. It's like 11 people.

And I got fried chicken and syrup in front of my shit. I just sat there, everybody's eating, it's like, can we go like, no, not today. Fuck I'm pulling some y'all. Y'all got Kool-Aid coming too, nigga? No, I'm not eating this shit, man. Y'all nice. Y'all just amazing. Yeah, good thing I didn't call it.

Y'all wait for them to come out with a big picture of Kool-Aid, but you like purple? You want gray? Yeah. You know, they don't even, Kool-Aid, so, would you like purple? You want gray? Yeah, you know they don't even, Kool-Aid they don't call it the flavor, you want red? I ain't eat that shit.

I know they was trying to accommodate me, but nah, nigga, that ain't your typical. I don't think that- Negro accommodation. Yeah, so I don't support it. But when I thought it was the, you know, when I thought it was the guy he's fighting, I don't wanna say the wrong race,

because our country's from, I thought this was actually cool if that's the guy that you're about to fight sending it to you, because you have the opportunity to kick his ass. So I was like, okay, the nigga who sent said to you, you know what you gotta do. You know what the fuck is on the table. Fucking sending me watermelons and bananas back.

But now that I know he didn't do it, it kind of takes the sizzle out of what I was thinking, Pauze. No, it definitely does, and that's a different angle, especially because you asked about it up here. Like, that was the time to kind of own up to it. And I do wish we all remembered because he did say something. No, that's what it was. Cause he was talking about Terrence Crawford.

Yeah. And he was doing it to try to get the fight. Yeah. But- Yeah, but that's why, that's why- go ahead. No, go ahead, Maurice. No, that's why I insinuated and said, there's other ways that you can bait people into agitating them.

But if you keep on going to the race thing, something makes me believe that you're racist. You know what I mean? If you keep on... You know, one time is cool, but once you go back there, knowing the uproar that it caused the first time, and then people looking at you, like you have some issue, I think, like, you're a racist nigga. I mean, I agree, because that's not some type of motivation.

Because back to Cam's point when he was talking about, um, like, the chicken and watermelon thing, when I was in school and I played basketball, my coach, I went to predominantly white school, my coach, the first time I got braids in my hair, because, like, nobody had braids, and it was like, whoa, like, you can do different things with your hair as a black girl. My coach didn't call me the predator.

Like, was that supposed to motivate with your hair as a black girl. My coach done called me the Predator. Like, was that supposed to motivate me to shoot, to play better? He called me the Predator. Somebody else called me Whoopi Goldberg. Like, they was saying things every single day. I'm like, dang it. We still need to protest behind that today.

What's your coach's name? What? What's that nigga's name, yo? Yeah, we didn't know his name. What is his name? I'm not saying it because these people are... I moved on and I'm not saying it because these people are, I moved on and I'm the better person always. You protecting the predator? No, I'm just saying, I'm just always gonna be

the bigger person. What school did you go to? Y'all know what school I went to. He had a shirt for it. I know what school she went to. What school is it? What school is it? What school? Wiregrass.

Huh? What's the name of it? Wiregrass High School. Wiregrass High School. Nick, Google the coach basketball, girls basketball coach for that school. He's like Google ain't nothing but a thing. He ain't there anymore. But we can figure out what year he was there. If you was.

Everybody's gonna be searching up. They got Rockstar pictures now. Treasure Wilson High School basketball, like yeah. Yeah, it's about 2016, 17, 18, around there. 21? I don't fucking know. We could just do, how she gonna be 24 this year? He's like, do that. Yeah, six years ago, seven years ago.

Just know I went through some things, y'all. Predator's wild, cause you got some great. And Whoopi Goldberg is wild, too. It was bad, like, it was bad. It was so bad, I went through some things. Like, the little girls would be around like, oh yeah, like, I would look better with this person because my complexion is this color and yours is like...

A lot of things happen, y'all. So I'm gonna say... So they told you you'll be better with light-skinned people? No, they told me I would look better with darker-skinned people. Okay. Yeah, they're like, um, that was literally the attitude. It was crazy. So all I'm going to say is... It was all a check of you. And you know what too, sometimes, I remember as a child, and I'm not covering for the coach

whatsoever because I wanted to know, I need his name. I remember my aunt lived in California at a young age. I used to go see her in the summer times. And I probably was like 12 or 13. She was, she had a decent job. She's getting some money. And she was going to look at apartments and a couple of places she had had, you know, pool,

tanning rooms, et cetera. So the realtor said, well, this is the tanning room, you won't be using that. So, and just go on. And she's like, why do you keep saying, what the fuck you mean I won't be using the tanning room? Because they are automatically black. Right, exactly.

So. Yeah, a lot of things. So, hope TFMO didn't do that, but if you did... it's a problem. Okay, we're gonna go to break. When we return, we will talk about this All-Star game, All-Star break, all of the above. We'll be right back. The underdog picks of the day. So, tonight is the NBA Celebrity All-Star Game.

So, it's gonna be a little different players today. So, Kai Sanat is at five and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? -♪ LAUGHS NERVOUSLY? -♪ Ah! Let me see. Man, that's a good one. Who is he with? Underdog or is he with, um...

drive picks? Hi, I don't know. I'm going higher, it's Carson high. You, I'm not checking he's with underdog, that's sudden change. Yeah, I'm going higher. Okay. I'm gonna go, I don't know.

He from the Bronx, right? Yeah. Should go higher, but see, man, that's what I wanted to tell you yesterday. And this time I'm gonna do a cop, but I'm gonna go higher, because he's from the Bronx. I went low on Zion, he didn't play last minute. No.

Told y'all niggas pay. God, tonight. Told y'all, I called that, I think it was last minute. He might be coaching. He might switch to coaching. Yeah, you never know what all's up. But he's in it, Paul's energetic. He gotta get more than five points.

Zeke had five. I was there. Yeah, facts. Hey, Drewski's at four and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower cam? Drewski, I don't really know how athletic he is cause you don't wanna be fooled by the weight. Cause you know, it's definitely.

Go lower, Paul Skill or go lower, Drew Ski. I saw him hit a move. He might basket hang though. Yeah. I would go lower though, I would say. They might basket hang. Shout out to Drew Ski, man. I'm gonna go lower though, I'm gonna tell you what. They might bet you. Shout out to Drew Ski, man.

He got a great show too. What's the name of that? What's the name of it? Could've been. Could've been records. Could've been records, it's hilarious. I be watching it all the time, but I'm going lower for us. We got two more.

Terrell Owens is at eight and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mase? Terrell's gonna have more than eight. I'm going higher for Tio. Okay. He got a point to prove. Vest. Tio is definitely under.

He's more than under the bridge, Tio. You gonna have more than eight. But you gotta realize, and I'm so mad I didn't actually sit and remind him of me too, because it was probably two years ago that T.O. was advocating to get back in the NFL. This might be an audition for him to see show niggas that he's still athletic in his age.

Yeah, T.O. was in good shape, was when he was in there. Yeah, so I'm gonna hire him. Okay, and then lastly, Matt Barnes is at 13 and a half points, do you have him higher or lower? Cam? Just spoke to Matt Barnes probably about two weeks ago.

Matt may not care as much as I thought. I think he could get 13 and a half points, I definitely think Matt could get 13 points. However, Matt may not care, you know, and then we don't know how much weed Matt's gonna smoke before that, all the smoke. All right, shout know how much weed Matt's gonna smoke before that. All the smoke podcasts, shout out to this podcast. Yeah, him and Stack.

Yes, dope podcast. I'm gonna go lower because I think he's gonna be more like these niggas is trash and he's gonna come in and dump high. That's crazy, that's crazy, Matt. Killer didn't even have you for more than 13. I said, I know he could get more than 13. Will he care enough?

Yo, listen, Matt Barnes playing with or against Druski and Koczenak, he could get 40, nigga. I'm just saying. I'm not saying he can't get 13. Will he care enough? I'm going higher, Matt. I'm going higher, Matt. I'm going higher. Okay.

He gonna have 14 points. Yep. Okay, and then just to clarify, Jeruski's on his team, so Kyson has on the other team, and Tio's on his team as well. So, Kai's on the other team. Okay, if you guys like these picks, remember you always get a free pick

if you're not already on underdog, so make sure to support the show. Sign up now and you can make your picks too. So the NBA called off Steph Curry and Sabrina Inescu's three point contest rematch. An NBA representative said, we weren't able to land on a plan we thought would raise the bar off of last year's special moment.

We all agreed not to proceed and will instead keep the focus on All-Star Sunday's new format. Maurice, how do you feel about this being called off? Is this something that you wanted to see? No, I didn't want to see it, but this is, um... This is all these outlets, you know, everybody's complaining about everything that they're seeing from the All-Star game, the All-Star weekend, the lack of interest and everything.

And I always say, anytime that you have anything with a bunch of variables, it is hard to be successful at. You know, be it in business, be it anything that has a bunch of variables. And when you start trying all this new stuff, you're trying to get people to like digest, pause, for lack of better words, just all of these new games that's trying to get and gather their attention.

What they need to go back to is just to refine the main thing. And I think that they should take an idea from, I don't know who said it, Mace or Cam, um, about the international guys playing the American guys. And so, uh, I don't think that there's anything other than them hearing from other people, uh, in the ecosystem about how bad the All-Star weekend is. Yeah. Um, I agree with you a lot, Mo. I just think for this one particular part of Sabrina getting a get back, I

think that would be really cool. Cause I think if she actually comes back, if they was the run it back, she will win it and I think women's sports would need that to start the other conversations they want to have. So for that only reason, this is a isolated conversation. Don't take this and use this for anything else. This is only for this one particular area, not any other area, not bringing women in a dunk contest. And no, none of that.

Just just simply for the three point contest, because I think Sabrina was so close when she walked away last year, she definitely believed she could have won it. I agree with Moe, you lost. You had your chance. Sorry, Stat, I know you for the one man you're moving your neck like this. Y'all can't see Stat.

I see her. I see her. I see her. She's doing all this with her neck. Y'all can't even see on camera. Mace said that. When Mo said, see Mo, when you, I gotta get peripheral, when you said it Mo,

she's like, when Mace said she's like, then when I said she's like, no, you lost, you got a chance. You missed out on your opportunity. I'm all definitely an uplifted woman sports, but you had your chance because if you would have won, they would have probably ran it back. But it's like this, it's like if Canelo wanna fight Floyd

again right now, no, you lost. Not fighting again. Same way, the fight that we did just passed with the Mexican monster, what's the thing he fought to get murdered? Morell? Yeah, Morrell? Yeah, Morrell. Morrell is a problem. And he caught some immediate Morrell at a young age

or inexperienced fighter. He only had 11 fights. Morrell, 22, fights in, you may not want to fight him again. Mm-hmm. And I'm not saying that Sabrina's inexperienced, but sometimes you have to take advantage of the opportunity that's presented to you. I'm so happy with what the WNBA has been doing,

not just the WNBA, women's basketball in particular, from, of course, we're always talking about Caitlin Clark, but we got to think about Angel Reese, we got to think about Dawn Staley, we got to think about Juju Watkins, we got to think about all the females in the last five years that have been elevated because of the path that the Sheryl Swoops and the Lisa Leslies

and everybody else have paved the way for them. I'm very, very excited where women's sports is going right now. From Kerry, I'm not doing it. No, you lost. That's valid. Let me just clarify. I'm not saying they gotta do a rematch, but I think they could do a different con,

like, different players. Like, I think it would be dope, because now I know we've seen Bam and Asia Wilson go public, like, let them, let them first each other. I feel like a lot of people would tune in, and it doesn't even have to be Bam, like, even just... What would they do against each other? They could do the three-point contest, too. Like, even just... What would they do against each other?

They could do the three-point contest, too. Something. I just think it's kind of cool to have the girl versus guy element. Love and basketball. I mean, we saw that. Let me ask you a question, stat. I like this stuff. That's wild.

Would it be cooler stuff that we come to the women's All-Star game and play and do a three-point contest? I mean, yeah. I think niggas will be like, why are you over here Steph? You're already doing everything in the NBA. Now you wanna come over here and beat us in the Women's All-Star Weekend.

Let us have our thing. That's just my opinion. And then that's fair too, cause I think people want their separate things, but I don't think it hurts. Like, it's supposed to be fun, so it's just like, let's just see the little, let's just see it real quick and then y'all can move on and do your thing.

You can be on your way. Listen, I think, and I'm not disagreeing, I'm just thinking, trust me, a Serena one, and it was close, it was a really good three-point contest. If she won last year, they would be doing it again this year. The Niggas wouldn't get back. That's why when it says preparation meets opportunity.

Hmm. Quote of the day. Yeah, because before you know it, you're gonna have the Pro Bowl and then you're gonna be saying Lado should be in the Pro Bowl. Laughing, because at the Pro Bowl, they definitely had me doing the skills challenges.

I was not good. I cannot throw a football for my entire life. They had me literally diving over to Matt, catching the slanted, but like, I was good. But somebody out there can do it. And shout out to Lotto, but I was looking at that, and I said, see, I see where they're going with this. Yeah, but to be on the contrary,

I'm sure a lot of people would wanna watch that too, if we're being honest. If they say Lotto, go do the skills challenge, people are gonna watch. I agree with that. So that's why I'm like, and people are gonna watch for different reasons, but people are gonna watch.

So that's what they want. Hey, go ahead Lotto, do your thing. Okay, so this actually wasn't even like, I wanna kinda ask you guys a side question. So, there's a women's basketball league in Miami called Unrivaled, and they are doing a lot of different things right now. Right now, they're actually having a skills type of challenge where they'll compete 1v1, and it's, you know,

two players doing a 1v1, and they can advance to the semifinals to get $25,000 cash. Is that concept in the NBA, potentially for All-Stars, something that you guys would be even interested in seeing? Like a 1v1 matchup for NBA players, or do you think that could just not be possible for the league? Um, I think this whole idea is good, but then it's not good. It looks like they're trying to undercut Ice Cube and I don't like it.

I'm just going to go straight up and say what I believe and what I think. It looked like they're trying to create something to take Ice Cube spot. Come on, ladies, play three on three for Ice Cube. Let's let's allow Ice Cube to have his moment. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead, Mom. Hey, Maurice. Oh, when you said that, I didn't I didn't take into consideration ice cube variable. But I like just the competitive.

I like competitive nature of people playing one on one. That's how I came up. That's how you come up in the neighborhood. That's what you see at the park. That's what you see when you at the Boys and Girls Club, the YMCA, just people playing one on one. I just think for for men to do it with these dudes making so much money, there would have to be some sort of substantial prize.

And I think that they do civic like two or three dribbles and so on and so forth. I don't know the rules of that, but I just like, you know, when people play one on one, it's a little bit more competitive than this other stuff. But I didn't know about I didn't even think about the ice cube variable. Yeah, because they had the three on three. Now they, it seemed like they're doing a one on one. So it seemed like they try to do the three on three, like, like, like ice cubes tournament. And I don't know how that went. So now they're doing the one on one. I'm not saying it didn't go well. I'm just, just, you know, calling out, you know,

when people try and jack people ideas. I don't like that. Get your own idea. I got you. So to be clear for our audience, they're having a three-on-three women's tournament with WNBA players, which to me, I think is dope. So they don't have to go overseas and leave the country. And it's not like ice cubes,

but I get what Macy's saying. I'm not disagreeing with Macy, I'm just explaining it for people who haven't seen it. It's a full court, three on three. The court's not as long as the WNBA court or NBA court. And you got these WNBA players playing, and they're saying that they wanna create something so that you don't have to go overseas. This is the reason the girl got locked up for... Smoking weed. Or having weed.

Brady Griner. Yeah. Because she was going overseas to play for the country because they didn't have an outlet in America for the females to make money during the off season for the WNBA. Because WNBA off season is very, very long. So I like the idea, I get what Mesa's saying as well, like you jack an Ice Cube, let Ice Cube do it, et cetera. Because we see the fight that Ice Cube is having with the W, pardon me, with the NBA on trying to get sponsorship, et cetera,

trying to work with them to go around the schedule. And I love Ice Cube for the fight he's putting up. The one-on-one thing, I like that too, Mo. Actually, I'm gonna put that on the Get Welcome Network, is that I was doing one-on-one games in Gaucho's gym before all of them. Like, A. Butter gets sacked at Harlem against the Bronx. I'm gonna actually put some footage up.

I'm gonna actually put the whole game up. I had that shit jumping. And I was commissioner of that, because it was my tournament. I'm gonna actually put some footage up. I'm gonna actually put the whole game up. I had that shit jumping, and I was commissioner of that, because it was my tournament. I thought it was really dope. I actually seen one of the one-on-one games, and I thought it was dope. I seen Skyla Diggins cooking somebody.

I don't know who the fuck that was, but Skyla was like, damn, I see Skyla Diggins in a minute. And she was cooking, so I do like one-on-one, but I do get what Mesa's saying. It seems like you're trying to take away from where Ice Cube is coming from, and I do agree with you, Mo.

I think one-on-one brings it back to the essence, so I see both of you guys' point. Yeah, I see both points, but I don't necessarily feel like that takes away from what Ice Cube is doing, because I think in general, everything is kind of inspired by something. And- I like that.

Yeah, like I don't think because they have a 3v3, that takes away from what Ice Cube is doing because it's different realms. Like, you know, that's just, if you're interested in women's basketball and you want to see your players continue to compete against each other, that's the way for them to make a lot of money.

They also have part ownership in Unrivaled in itself. And then, you know, 3-3, like, you're still having great players play, but I don't think because he has that, they can't do that. Yeah. No, I totally understand what you're saying. What I'm basically saying is the one-on-one idea is your idea.

The three-on-three idea is his idea. You get what I'm saying? When you combine the three-on-three and the one-on-one, it's like you kinda doing a spin-off of their idea. If you just say, you know what, we gonna do one-on-one. Okay, that's your thing. If you say three-on-three, that's Ice Cube's thing. But that's a part of having patent,

if you don't have that, then that's on his's on his business acrimate. You know what I'm saying? But for me, I'm just, that was just an observation. Do I think women should be able to make money after the WNBA? Of course, should they make money on the off season? Of course, if this is something that supplement that income, that's a great idea. I'm just saying Ice Cube should figure out a way to do that. I'm not saying they can't do it. How do you patent a three on three? Now I'm not saying that he does have that patent.

I'm saying. I'm saying how do you even go about that? Like yo, I own three on three basketball. Nobody in the world is allowed to play three on three. Um... I don't know all the particulars of it, but I know... I'm actually, well, better question. You think, you think, and I don't know,

I'm asking you, you think that's possible? Um, yes, anything is possible. Sometimes people have it where you can't even use certain words or you can't even use certain colors. And somebody could say, this is my color. If they say, well, if they have the right lawyer and he's able to get that to happen. Yeah, like I'll give you, like for example,

I'll give you a three-star, I don't know, I want you to be funny. I'll give you a great example of what you're talking about. Like when you say, let's get ready to rumble, that's homeboys. If you use that, that's his.. If you use that, that's his. Anywhere. Anywhere, that's his.

If three Pete, like Pat Riley was hoping that Kansas City three Peter, because all these t-shirts and anything, three Pete. But Donald Trump went to try and patent the word fire, and they like, Don, you can't have fire. Come on, now you're wailing with trying to own't have fire. Like, come on, now you wildin' with your time to own the world fire. So that's why I was asking,

because it's different things for different things, for different shit to it. And for the three on three, it may be something like, let's say there was no tournament for it, right? So everything we saw in basketball was always five on five. So now if you create an entity where it's like now this is different. It's just like a pattern. And if you say we using, um, it is what it is.

Somebody said I'm using it for hats and clothing and this and that. And the person said, well, no, I'm using it for television. They get the pattern of it because that's the thing that the other person is not using. When somebody comes in and say, we playing basketball, somebody is already using that. Well, see, that's why I asked you that. And like I said, this is a great conversation to have on a business note, because I'd like to learn

and give my point of view too. Because my thing is this, right? When you say, we're talking about words and you're right, because it's different patterns for different things. So for instance, right? Let's just say, Treasure Wilson, you're patting that for mugs and t-shirts and accessories. But if somebody wants to use it for food,

you didn't patent it for food. It's like 15 different patents you gotta get for Treasure Wilson to where they be like, well you didn't patent it for this, so I can use it for that. What I'm saying is this, this is actually an action. This isn't like a word or anything because my thing is, my opinion is,

I think if that was a case, and I could be wrong, this is just all speculation and great conversation. Then it wouldn't be five on five in Australia or Europe or wherever, because the NBA would have been like, no, no, no, we started this. Holler at us if you wanna play five on five, you know we the originators of this shit.

No Canada, no Europe, no Australia, no. And maybe they didn't think of it before the time happened to where they could pay. I just wanted to learn that. No, that's a great point. The other way is that he has so much money that if anybody's trying to do a three on three, just go buy them out.

Cause that's what the NBA does. They say, oh nah, y'all not playing in Australia without the NBA. Everything is coming under this brand of the national basketball. So would it be changed from NBA to IBA? I'm just saying, you gotta think about it. It's tens of millions of basketball players.

It's 480... NBA players. They just gotta go play somewhere, right? Yeah. And then just real quick, just to further clarify, so an NBA 1v1 is something that you wouldn't be that interested in.

So say for example, you got Jokic versus Embiid, say both are healthy and Embiid decided to show up and play. No, I'm for the one-on-one. I like, I think that's great. No matter on what level, cause it shows the greatest level of competition without excuse. I love when people can't make excuses.

Yeah, and to that also, just the whole All-Star shit, even if they had that, I like that matchup because I think them two would try and beat each other. That's a great matchup. But I just think this whole All-Star weekend in the past 10 years or more, just been a meetup to be like, yo, what's up, yo, niggas is not playing hard.

Niggas wanna show they belts, man. Exactly, I think that would be, Show their belts. That would be, that to me, I like that matchup you just said, Stack, cause they both like, I don't fuck with you. And they not from America neither, you know what I'm saying? So I think that that would be really dope.

But outside of that, this is just one homeboy hookup every fucking year for the last 10 or more years, man. That's honestly not right. They put all their focus on the tunnel. I think the tunnel, the tunnel filming is just crushed the NBA. Yeah, tunnel filming, social media, all the above, vacations.

It's just a whole bunch of things, but all I do know is... Everything but the main thing. Hey, we've cracked the code. Hopefully, they figure out a solution. But that is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, thanks for being here. All right, Mo, good seeing you, bro. Mo, good seeing you, Crenshaw Mo.

Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want nigga? Everything nigga supersized. Two big necks, like when they doin' them two for five.