IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE KNICKS HAVE A COMMAND ON THE NBA FINALS BUT ARE WE SURE THEY GONNA CLOSE IT OUT?!
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Welcome back to It Is What It Is.
I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam.
Killer, what's going on, man?
It's good, man. How you doing today?
chilling, man.
That's what's up.
Are you all ready for a third team?
What team are you on?
Who is your team?
We never found out who your team was.
I wanted to know if you're getting a third team now.
I'm going to stay strong.
I'm going to stay real strong.
Shout out to the next, though.
Honestown.
I'm just checking the rooms.
You're in the portal?
No, but I'm going to support New York as a whole.
But it's not over.
Like, it's not over, guys.
Why are you supporting New York as a whole?
Just accent.
Because I like the city of New York.
I mean, that's all.
Maybe like seven times.
So you know.
Let me get it straight.
You like the city of New York
so you're going to support it as a whole,
but your team is Golden State.
Yes, and the heat.
Yes.
But you don't support Golden State City?
Um, I like the city of the Bay,
but I like New York.
New York is one of those cities
when I went to and I was like, New York.
I never heard this before.
This first time I've heard this.
But I like the city of New York or that I don't.
Yes, Dad, did you like the city in New York?
Really?
Yes, that this is going crazy.
Well, I thought I've claimed that before.
No, New York is dope.
Because being from.
Florida.
I mean, I know I'm telling y'all, but like, yeah, it's like, this is so cool.
That's just how I feel about it.
It's a perfect time to feel like that about it.
Okay, no.
I know, like, might be convenient.
Even if it wasn't now, like, even if the Knicks weren't winning, like, I just liked the city.
If the Knicks wasn't winning, you wouldn't be like, I support the city of New York.
No, I would, though, because New York is always a good idea.
Like, me and my friends, like, for us, like, going to New York, like, because we're not,
from there. That's a cool experience.
Y'all know, though, already.
I think it's in the control room
who's just like, yeah.
I brought a flag on the play.
Hey, I can't like New York.
I can't like New York.
The whole control room looking crazy.
Damn.
Guys, I just like this in New York.
That's all.
This is why all you got to do is win, killer.
Oh, I know.
The finals are a shot.
You got to win.
I already know.
Niggas does saying they always loves you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've been in love with the city.
It goes crazy, man.
I don't remember what topic we was talking about.
I don't remember, but we said winning, fix everything.
Yes.
Yeah, we have.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
That's not even my reason, y'all.
I just like visiting the city.
But I see where y'all are coming from because it sounds mighty convenient,
even though it's not supposed to be.
But let's get into the game because we've got to recap this game, too.
the people have been waiting to hear what y'all have to say so the nix beat the spurs 105 to
104 spurs will be heading to new york down o and two with the hopes to secure their first win mace
how did you feel about the way this game turned out this is exactly what i predicted that new york
would sweep the spurs right and when i first said it it sounded crazy to the listeners ear but as you
start to watch the series, you begin to see that. Wembe is going to play well. What I thought about
the game was that these is just fundamental things that they're doing that's wrong. Like,
you don't pass the ball with a person's back turn. That's number one. The, um, the, the,
the man that's seven-four shouldn't be bringing the ball up. This is, you need a point God. All of
the things that I shared, like in all of the games leading up to this, just played out,
dramatically right before my eyes.
Then at the end of the game, I even had to call kill up.
I couldn't believe it.
Wimby takes the jump shot and they're only down one.
You go to the rack.
You go to the rack.
I mean, the rest of the game, I was just looking at this game.
Like, I knew the Knicks was going to win.
I just didn't know in what fashion they would win.
When I saw OG get the dunk, I say, oh, yeah, this is going, they're going to win.
this game. And it seems like the coach and Killer made this point. I don't want to steal his point.
No, that's cool. But it seemed like it seemed like Harper was just, Hopper is just, Hopper is better
than Brunson, but they're going away from Harper. Harper is the key to the winning. If they
would have stuck with Harper, it seemed like Harper get going and then they stopped going away from him.
Then Darren Fox hit the three. He had to step back three.
they go away from Darren Fox.
It just seemed like the coach just was doing a horrible job,
and I'm just going to stop there because I know Killer won't expect on that.
No, it's cool. No, no, no.
Yeah.
When it comes to San Antonio, every, it seemed like they're in desperate need of a power forward.
They haven't figured out how to run the offense the way Pop used to run it.
And they got all of the talent if they would just run a triangle part.
If they were running a triangle, they would dominate the league for five years.
Because the way the triangle runs, they will all get the ball pulled close to the basket
and in a position where they could be dominant.
But it seemed like they choose to run some different offense and just go one-on-one.
When realistically, you put Wemby somewhere down on the baseline and you attack the rack.
If they help, throw it up.
Pause.
That's just a basket every single time.
But it seemed like they didn't want to do that.
They want to win some other kind of way.
And when Wimby got that play down the middle pause,
I really thought that was the time when I thought,
oh, they're about to make this one in one.
And I thought if they made it one and one,
they would have won the series.
But that one, that one play, I think is going to cost them.
Because when they go back to New York,
it's going to be nuts, pause.
Everybody is coming from everywhere.
everywhere that you've never heard a place that loud.
They're going to be going crazy.
They stepped it up, killer.
Now he's not just, Jalen Brunson is not just his mechanic.
He's not just his doctor.
Now he's his pope.
Whoever that guy is on Instagram,
you're really keeping the Knicks alive.
Yeah.
Yeah, Mace called me and said Jalen Brunson sold out.
when he missed a free throw.
He choked.
He said, he says,
this New York,
I know it.
Don't let him fool you up here.
He was like,
I knew it.
He sold out.
He called me after Jaylen
Brousler.
He said, look at him.
Look at the next day.
Sold out.
I knew it.
So don't let him come up here
and act like,
he knew all this
because he was like,
yo,
I knew it what happened.
I say, yeah.
But to be honest with you,
if you look at my mom,
whole take on serious now.
If you look at my whole take from after game one,
they did the same thing, to be honest with you in game two.
I say, yo, offensive rebounds.
They don't get offensive rebounds to allow Knicks to get offensive rebounds.
You got Alvarado getting offensive rebounds.
You got Josh Hart tipping out.
Yo, the offensive rebound game for the Knicks is crazy.
I said this before the series started.
Next thing, even that last play with Wimby,
I said that after game one.
Why are they so comfortable with the center getting the ball
and turning their back and run up the court?
I said everything they did, I said.
Then the next, that's.
I told Nick, make me a clip with a, so I posted a whole clip
of after I take from game one, and they did it again in game two.
then the inexperience on the coaching.
Once again, I said the shit about the coaching.
You got out coached Ms. Johnson two games in a row.
So now, right, the game is tied up.
This is before Wimby tries to pass at the castle
and turns the ball over.
You have a very young team.
A 21-year-old storm you're talking about stuff on Castle,
22 old superstar when you're talking about Wembe.
You have a young team.
the game's tied up.
You get the rebound with 15 seconds left.
You don't call, you have to call time out.
You had a time out left.
You have to call time out in that situation, bro.
I know you're saying let them play.
Let's see what happened.
We saw last series.
We see Wemby bring it up and hit a shot from 38 feet.
That's not going to happen every series as an experience.
And maybe you're an experience.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe that too.
No disrespect.
but this is your first year.
But you have to, you got 15 seconds left,
when he gets the ball, and the game is tied,
you call time out.
You know why?
Because either we're going to win this game
or we're going to lose it or win it in overtime.
We're not going to give them another chance
to get the ball.
You call time out, you set up a play,
and the last shot is with zero seconds on the clock.
That's what happens, man.
Inexperience.
I know Pop is up in the skybox losing his motherfucking mind.
I know he's losing a loser.
It's motherfucking mind, man.
I already know it, man.
So the lack of inexperience is just showing.
You know, during this season, a lot of people like,
oh, the Spurs, they're a year two away, their year two away.
And they said, well, maybe it's their time now.
Maybe it's their time now.
And then, you know, they end up being Portland
and they beat, you know, a hobo, Minnesota.
We have to think about that.
It wasn't like it was Devin Chishol and Aunt Man wasn't there.
Also, and then, you know, you beat Golden.
pardon me, not Golda State, you beat the Thunder, which they were hobbled.
They didn't have J-dub and their second league scorer and Mitchell.
So we're not saying that those teams aren't good without their players,
but it was a lot of key players missing leading up to this championship run.
Now, I'm not going to count y'all out, but the end of day, it don't look good.
Now, let's get to the Knicks.
The Knicks look dialed in, all the way dialed in.
You got Carl Anthony Town busing fucking Wemby's ass.
my nigga, like literally, spanking Wemby, making them look less than average.
He almost looking like Sean Bradley, the way motherfucking Carl Anthony Towns is busting his ass.
Then you got OGN and Nobly just looking stronger than everybody on the court.
Jalen Brunson didn't even have a good game.
He didn't even have a good game.
He had a subpar game for, I'm talking about Jalen Brunson standards.
And with all this going on, Sherman looking good off the bench, you had Deuce McBride coming in,
making stuff. Josh Hart didn't even score
on the thing. Let me see.
No. He didn't even
score. And then
you know, McKell Bridges said
fuck them seven picks y'all keep talking
about. He's coming up looking good.
If you look at also,
the Knicks are downed in on defense.
They know the plays San Antonio going to run.
You got to look at the
when people are shooting free throws for San Antonio,
look at the Knicks communication
on defense or when the Knicks are shooting
free throws, pardon me. Look at the communication.
getting back. Talking about
what played San Antonio is going to run.
Throwing up signs. I don't know what the signs
they're throwing up. They throwing all that up and
niggas is like, okay, they're going to do that. These
niggas is downed in, man. And, you know, I'm not going to say
so Santo, but you shouldn't have went back
2-0, bro. You shouldn't have went back to O'
and then back to Macy's point. You got Wembe
with a good shot with
Mitchell Lorne, and you want to shoot a
a mid-range, you go to the basket, try to get contact,
so therefore if you don't make the basket,
at least you try to get a foul.
It's just an experience.
Last thing I'll say about this is desperately,
desperately, man,
y'all have to get somebody.
Wimby's not a center.
Wimby's like a four.
Maybe sometimes three.
It would ship me and PT watching game.
Like, what is he doing the shimmy spin around from 17 feet out?
What are you doing?
San Antonio has nobody rough to deal with Mitchell Robertson.
And I don't even think calling any tails is that rough, but he's strong.
And it looks like nobody had to deal with him.
And then you definitely don't got nobody strong enough for O.G.
And then normally not saying that your niggins or San Antonio is so awful pussy and nothing like that.
What I'm saying is y'all physically aren't tall or strong enough to deal with the Knicks have on the paint.
And what I see is y'all depend on when be all these games get rebounds,
and they're pushing and muscling him out.
And therefore, San Antonio, when they go down and miss, they won and done.
It's one and done with the Knicks against second, third,
and maybe possibly fourth chance opportunities.
San Antonio Miss, it's a one and done deal.
It's no offensive rebounds, none whatsoever.
So if I'm y'all in the offseason, I'm not saying the player I'm naming
or the players I'm about the name you could get
because I don't know their contract situation.
y'all need a Julius Randu type nigger.
Y'all need a strong power forward or a real center.
That nigga Williams, who's on Boston, who are in Portland now,
y'all need one of them type niggas because y'all don't have it.
We'll see what happens tonight at the garden.
I'm talking about moving forward.
That's what y'all need.
And like I said, maybe this is where y'all hit the brick wall
when everybody's talking about, well, they're a year two away.
They're a year two away.
Maybe so.
We'll see what happens.
Try to make an interest.
Try to make it interesting, y'all,
because the way the Knicks are down there
and they want to wrap this shit up this week.
And going home is gonna be a lot of energy.
Now what I will say is this.
If anything might fuck it up, is Trump coming to the game.
Trump's coming out, Secret Service is coming.
He's fucking up all the watch parties.
He says, no watch parties.
This is gonna be interesting to watch outside the game.
Because the way New York is acting,
it's like they don't care about none.
I see niggas rip in San Antonio's shirts off niggas.
shirt off, niggas.
A nigger had to land a hawk jersey on.
Landa hawk spin home.
They ripped his shit up right off his shirt.
Nick, play the take.
This is what I'm telling you.
I don't know what kind of battle
with the Secret Service is going to happen tomorrow,
but fellow New Yorkers, dead ass, you know,
I'll be trolling all that shit.
Even though Spurs my team, as a New York,
I love the carotery.
I love the solidarity.
They was talking about how crime is down in New York.
Crime is down in New York.
The camaraderie is beautiful to see.
to see. Don't let
the cops or the Secret Service, whoever,
run you over because when Trump
convoy come through, they're not
stopping. Just be careful out there
tonight. That's all I would like to say to felt
New Yorkers. Have fun, but be careful.
We have more things to dive into regarding
game two, and that was a great breakdown, by the way, but
since you bring up Trump attending
Game 3, which, like
you said, a lot of things are going to be shut down.
Nobody can bring in bags. Like,
Secret Service is going to be around. Mace, what is
your opinion on that? How do you think
he's going to go, yeah.
I don't want Trump at the game.
I don't want no new people at the game.
Whatever's been working, don't show up to the garden
and they lose the game.
This is what I'm thinking right now.
If you got the Knicks playing the way they plan,
anything new could jeopardize what we've been seeing.
It's just that.
And people are going to blame you.
People, if you think,
they hated Trump before.
If he comes to this game and they lose
his presidency
might be on the
line in New York.
They're just going to have a hard time
you know, dialing in with Trump
there because it breaks the
it breaks a lot of the things that are going on.
Now, you know, Trump
has visited sports
in the garden before.
But this is not the time.
I think if you're Trump, you've got to
come to game four if they
win game three, but don't come
to game three. Why?
If they lose and Trump
is there, this all goes towards
Trump. That's what they're going to blame it on.
You notice that, I notice,
PT notice, killer notice,
and it's just going to change
the outside.
I love the energy of New York
right now. I've not seen
one blood or crypt in
the whole city since the
Knicks have been winning.
Everything has been harmonious.
You know, everybody is unified.
I don't know who's GD, B, D, or anything right now.
Everybody is just New York Knick fans.
And I love this for New York.
I'm seeing gangsters smile.
They're making pop records.
This is a great time for New York.
You got to love it.
And Trump coming in there just makes it too serious.
You know how you're having a good time and somebody come in?
You got to cater to them.
you got to make this.
It's going to mess up the vibe.
I'm telling you, it's going to mess up the vibe.
That's what I think.
100% mess up the vibe.
Where is it going to sit?
Where is Trump going to sit?
Is he going to be on the front
and then people standing around him
and people can't really cheer?
Or he's going to be in a skybox
and the skybox is going to have a red beam on it
or, you know, we just don't need that in New York.
I like it with people standing all on top
of the marquee.
you know what I'm saying
they were crowd surfing
with a bike
somebody was crowd surfing with a bike
Trump comes in the whole block
got to be clear
just think of that
the whole
8th Avenue got to be
clear 7th Avenue
got to be clear
where do those people go
they got to watch it from
nine blocks away it changes the
atmosphere I like it the way it is
Trump just stay home man
just stay home watch it
From the Oval, man.
From the Oval.
Roger from the Oval.
Kim, any more added thoughts?
Yeah, what I will say this.
If there's one nigga who don't care more than me is Trump.
All that shit may say could go out the window.
Trump is coming.
I'll tell you that right now.
If there's one nigga who don't give a fuck with nobody say,
Trump is coming.
So that's why I gave my speech earlier.
You could forget about him staying home.
It's already a done deal.
I let y'all know I'm coming.
do what y'all got to do.
So I agree with Mesa's saying, but that's not going to happen.
But that's what we were talking about earlier, is that where's he going?
If he said Korside, that's just crazy.
Imagine a nigga running in the Trump and Secret Service basketball play.
And the Secret Service jump out everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
So like I said, just do the best to prepare because I think, I don't think there's nobody who
get a kick more out of telling somebody something
and they do the other thing.
I think he's number one at that.
What?
Matter of fact, don't come.
I'll be there early.
Fuck is you talking about?
I really believe that.
And then the way you think about somebody like Trump,
I know he's our president and all that shit, right?
But let's keep it tall.
Like, Trump's a New Yorker.
He's really a New Yorker, bro.
And I get it.
You're the president now.
It's going to be a mess.
The niggas man, the gas prices.
Shit, sky.
That's what niggas told me.
I was speaking, nigger, niggas.
Yeah, they're going to get going to get on that,
that nigger about the gas prices at the guard.
But deep down, he has a man real estate.
He's from New York.
Mace used to, damn near living,
Trump Tower.
Nah, niggas, tell a nigga don't come to the game.
Tell her you, because what's it happened there,
killer?
New York is the place they might jump secret services.
No, no.
I told niggas that.
They could jump secret service.
If they lose, they'd,
When I'm telling, niggas, it's this, I'm not disagreeing with you because this is why I said,
be careful because I know niggas are trying to.
I don't know if you've seen when niggas had the police body cam on the train talking about Nixon for.
They take him body cam.
But that's what I'm trying.
But this is what I was trying to tell you.
This is something different, y'all.
I'm telling you, the way they're wilding outside, they will try, try, try.
and they will make security do their job.
And they're going to do something.
They're going to do their job.
They're going to do a job.
That's why I said, that's why I was trying to explain.
Maybe I explained it correctly, and I explained it for the fans that be out there.
It's going to be, I don't know if y'all know where the convoy is.
A convoy is a group of cars back to back, possibly side by side as well.
Do not jump in front of the convoy because.
was that convoy of Trump's
convoy's not going to stop.
I was there, this wasn't
a sporting event, I was just driving downtown
maybe just during Trump's
first president run.
And they had the streets blocked off, and it was
like 32 cars back
to back to back, and they had
niggas literally, they had cars
pulling me, not just me, I'm driving,
but you know how they come down and swerve,
so you got to swerve, and you're like,
yo, but it's six and out.
on these side making all the traffic go like towards the parked cars and then 19 cars just
going straight through running red lights all that so y'all just be careful man that's what I'm
gonna say because one thing for sure maybe I maybe but I don't see it I don't see him saying
you know what this would be too big of a distraction I just don't see him saying it so just be
just be careful you all I want you everybody to be safe yeah like what cam and
saying now, that's exactly what I see.
I'm telling them
I don't think you should go for
even political reasons. I think
somebody's going to get hurt.
It got somebody getting hurt written all over.
People are going to be drunk. People are
like, you know what? I ain't moving.
You know,
if you're from where I'm from,
somebody is going to say,
nigga, I didn't move for Obama,
nigga, I'm not moving for Trump.
I didn't move for Farrakhan.
nigga, I'm gonna be right here.
I did them come through, you know, that kind of vibe.
I'm not saying you should do this.
I agree.
But I can almost guarantee you somebody is thinking,
why are y'all moving?
And killer said it, the convoy is coming through.
Convoy is going to have to run me over there.
All right, by that kind of vibe.
And that's what we don't need.
And the Knicks playoff, you know?
And then if they lose and somebody,
get hurt.
Trump can't show up nowhere.
He'll lose all of his support in New York.
It's that simple.
Listen, man, you all realize, man.
I think he tried to snipe Trump.
Trump said,
yeah, he let people in the White House
to jump niggas, you know?
Yeah, that's like a siker here.
I'm out.
Aye.
Like you said,
the back door open pores.
Y'all know what you're dealing with.
You got to know your personnel, man.
That's crazy.
Good luck to everyone.
I don't know what you just said.
Got niggas off and paid.
Niggas, he let in the White House and they went to jail and got off.
I don't know how much.
I don't keep up with a lot of political shit.
But I see that the government, niggas is getting mad
because Trump trying to get like a billion dollar fund
to say that them people got locked up,
went through mental torture and all that shit.
So he's trying to get that.
Them niggas paid as well.
What was them niggas?
The wild boys?
They had the name.
What was the name?
Yeah.
Yo, the left-hand boys.
What the niggas was up again?
The proud boys.
I knew so, yeah.
That's crazy.
Trump trying to get the proud boys paid
talking about mental restitution and all that.
They went through something.
So I was reading that the other day.
I'm not really knowledgeable, so I'm not acting like I know a lot was going on.
But I just thought the fact that niggis
got rushed the White House, get locked up.
Nigger Trump come home.
Get them out.
Now get them paid?
Yeah.
Wow, nigga, boy.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, this, I'm just going to say good luck to everybody
because even just seeing that they're, like, not allowing watch parties and stuff.
I just don't really know how that's going to allow them watch.
They shut all the watch parties there.
Everything shut down, like, for safety.
You can't have a watch party there if the president's there.
You can't bring a bag.
He was so concerned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There ain't no watch.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a freedom of speech guy and, you know, like that says, if you can get away with it.
But don't mess it up for anybody, man.
Yeah, because it is a...
No, watch parties are just crazy.
No, we don't watch party around the garden.
Around the ball, yeah.
Because you know...
Because you know all that...
Yeah, but that's where the energy is coming from.
I totally agree.
Because think about this, right?
When you see the Knicks fans the other day after game, too,
It was crazy outside.
And they was away.
Yeah.
Imagine what this is going to be tomorrow, my nigga.
This is what I'm trying to tell you.
I was on a way game.
Listen, it is niggins at home, like you said, Mace.
Pardon me.
With a blueprint talking about now if we start on 32nd Street
and go around the 6th Avenue,
I know we can freak it to win.
This niggas telling you right now.
They're doing that right now.
bro.
I'm telling you, bro.
It is niggas right-na play.
Because we know New York.
Yeah, niggas is laying the blueprint.
They're going to stop us,
nigga.
If you come down 31st Street
and go around the 6th and then
lean over this 7th,
we could do the whole shit.
I'm telling you.
We're going to park in the morning.
You know, they say
that I've seen the show in the news
on ABC News.
Even coming to the Guard,
it's TSA-style security
to get in the Guard.
come there two hours earlier, like,
you go into a flight because
it's new, you can't go, first of all,
you can't bring a bag. There's no bags to the guard.
So you have to come two hours,
it's a mess, it's gonna be a mess.
No pocketbooks.
No pocketbooks.
They can't have no bags.
They are not long, nobody have nothing.
Yeah, it changes everything.
If you thought before it was crazy,
I don't even know how they're gonna maintain after,
because everybody, there's a video of J.R. Smith getting mobbed
by a whole bunch of fans.
They do not care.
Nobody cares.
right now, so I don't know.
That's something that's just saying, good luck.
Be safe.
But on the political, though, on a serious note,
it's really, with the war and all that shit going on,
it's just really not a good time.
You're right.
But Trump is really one of them niggas like,
I thought we're just the land of the free.
Land of the brave.
Yeah, home of the brave land.
Home of the brave.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Only take is one nigga to run through the course
and say,
a-thru to the court.
I don't think somebody gonna run on the court tomorrow, though, Trump.
They ran on the court in San Antonio.
Literally, literally.
Yeah, and got a picture.
Yeah.
And posted it.
First nigga to get near Trump, everybody getting fired.
Selfie.
Stop the game.
They would literally stop.
I'm talking about...
The secret serve, though.
Trump.
You got to think about this.
You got, listen, man.
It's gonna be the popcorn.
on lady's secret service.
Everybody's, you don't know,
the disguise is going to be wild.
They're not going to have everybody.
They're going to have their niggas dressed in black
and all that, but the undercover,
it's going to be wild.
Never know.
You can't have them old people
outside of the court this game.
No.
They're just standing there looking around.
People running right past them.
Can't do it.
Okay.
So I want to go back to a point you were making
regarding when,
because you pinpointed a lot on inexperience, right?
But especially from what we saw from game two
and may someone go to you,
does it seem like maybe Wembe can't handle the pressure?
Do you quote that to an experience
or do you just think it's something else?
No, I think Wembe is definitely coming to play.
He just got to turn up even more.
You know, the way he's playing is like he's trying to get other people involved
and this is his moment, right?
It's not for him to share a pause this moment with the team.
It's for him to take this team and put the team on his back for them to go where they could go.
Like even with him trying to make that pass, he shouldn't have made the pass.
You got the ball.
Like Cam did, you know, Cam came down and shot it.
He was supposed to shoot it.
I mean, when you really think about it, if you're that guy, I'm not passing the ball.
I mean, when you really think about it, sometimes we just be joking.
And I say that to him just to keep the joke going.
But if I got the ball, I'm shooting the ball.
It's better that I miss than I pass it.
And it go off your leg or, you know, like what happened right there?
He threw the ball and hit Castle's back paws.
And Jalen Brunson is still the ball.
The first thing you're thinking is if you got the ball,
you're already out of pocket for trying to dribble it up.
So since you got it, you might as well get a bucket when in doubt.
That's the play.
Get a bucket.
So I think that he got to really take this game the way Carl Anthony Towns did.
The first play that Carl Anthony Towns gets the ball, he rakes the ball and goes hard to the rack for a basket.
And that's set the tone.
I'm here to play.
I'm not playing with you.
We're here to get a championship.
And that's how he got to play.
We need more nuns at the game.
Since they're going to have Trump there, you might as well buy a,
a whole row for the nuns.
They're going to need 20 nuns to get this thing back in motion with spurs.
Isn't the exact question?
Yeah, does it seem like when you can't handle the pressure?
You've credited just inexperience or something else?
I don't think he's fine with the pressure.
You know, you gotta realize that.
You see him in the huddle?
See a niggick going off in the huddle?
You know what I'm saying?
It's just sometime, I think game one,
he wanted it too bad,
and sometime one it too bad can't get it.
Second game, he's just taking ill-a-von shots.
That's why I got to credit some of this shit to coaching
because you got a reel-a-player in sometime.
We don't need you shimmying from 19 feet away from the basket
shooting turnaround airballs.
We just don't need that.
So I don't think the pressure's too much.
I think it's more about inexperience,
needing help from your coaches,
and just not having the right pieces on your team, man.
I said this before the series,
started. The power for
position, man,
is, you can see the difference.
Look, let's be realistic, right?
And I would never accuse the NBA
of this for Adam Silver. But it looked
fishy. We're watching the game.
Knicks up 12 points.
All of a sudden, some wild foul
start getting cold. We don't see no fouls
on the Knicks.
All of a sudden, all of a sudden, everything
as far as the calls is concerned is going to Nix
way. They like, listen, if I'm Adam Silver and these niggas, I need the series to be extended
too. You don't want this over and four. The more games, the more money. So at the end of the day,
we watching the game like, and listen, you know, niggas know the spurs been my team for years,
and I'm even looking like, that wasn't no foul. Nah, come on, I was out of bounds on the spur.
You know, I'm just being realist watching the game, you know what I mean? And they had several
opportunities, but you got to take advantage of the opportunities you give in.
So to answer your question, I don't think it's too much pressure on Wembe.
It's a lack of inexperience.
It's a lack of not having the physical attributes to deal with a Mitchell Robinson,
to deal with a Carl Anthony Towns, even though you could get chores on the office event,
is they don't have it.
Did you see when O.G. Nandali just dribbled up and dunked off on Wemby off the Virt?
You know, it's wild disrespectful.
Hung there, too.
You need help down there, man.
You're dealing with four guards and a center to me who's not the average center,
even though you're labeling him a center.
So, no, I don't think that he's under pressure.
I think it's inexperienced.
You're dealing with a team also with the Knicks who had to do you think about this
from the Knicks perspective.
They have to wait a year to get back here.
You know how it is to beat the champs and then losing the next round
Indiana and then be like we shouldn't have lost Indiana and then got to wait a whole year
with their same team. So you're dealing with that as well, man. A team who really wants it,
who should felt they should have been in this position last year and they're more mentally
tough at the particular moment. We'll see what happens tonight. Yeah. And another note,
I don't think it's safe for the Spurs, not just their fans, the Spurs. I think they didn't
found out where the Spurs are staying, and I could just see people harassing women.
I would tell the Spurs, don't eat anything, you're in the hotel.
People want this championship for New York really bad.
And there's things that happen.
I remember joining them and was talking about different cities they went into.
In the hotel, people try to food poison them.
No conspiracy here, just FYI, just good insight.
I hope that doesn't happen.
There's a lot of superstitious going on right now,
so we're just gonna...
New York fans are wild, Statt.
Yeah.
You could just imagine Wemby coming out,
going to the bus.
What do you think they're saying to Wembe right now?
It's video that.
Yeah, they're going crazy.
You know what I see,
you're going to see the video
all the people outside the whole hotel
and Wembe and they're like,
fuck you and me.
It's not dead ass, it's actual video.
Y'all didn't see it?
Oh, my God.
No, I'm just thinking I can only imagine.
I know I knew you.
First of all, so basically it's two videos that I see.
It's the Wimby and them coming out.
And it's a few people in the daytime.
They're like, yo, fuck you, Wembe, fuck you,
castle, they all walking to the bus.
Then it's a video at nighttime
where it's like 400 people out there like,
fuck the Spurs, fuck the Spurs, they figured it out.
I see Wimby.
Wimby went to Rucker, though, murder.
That's fine.
Went up there shooting around, Dolo.
Oh, yeah.
You wild nigger
Is it Kyle Watson on?
Yeah, yeah
So you hear that nut so?
Yeah
So if he doing that, Trump could come to the game
Everybody wilder
Everybody wilder
Literally
Everybody wilder
Okay, so we're going to get
Into some predictions
Starting just with an early prediction
For your finals MVP
Because there's been a lot of discussion
Between Brunson and Kat
But Mace, would your pick be
right now? I mean, right now, you have to give it the pause. I think Cat would, I would think
Kat. He set the tone for this team. Jalen Brunson just keeps coming through in the clutch,
but as the game is going on, Kat is just consistent. Without Kat, without Kat. They wouldn't win
even with the performance of Jalen Brunson. So if it's based upon who's the most valuable,
that would be the most valuable to me.
I agree with Mace as far as Kat is the MVP so far of this series,
but I don't know if voters will be persuaded
with Jalen Brunson done all year.
You know, some voters may be like, now fuck that.
He did it all year.
Now, if we're going off the series, I totally agree with Mace.
Because think about this, it boils down to the series.
That's what the vote should be decided on.
Steph Curry, out of the four championships that he has,
only has one MVP.
You know what I'm saying?
Equal Dollar got MVP one year for playing good defense on LeBron James.
So if we're talking about the series, I agree with Mace.
It's cat, but just the grass that Jaylen Brunster has on New York City,
he's their engineer, he's their doctor.
He's my father.
The grass he has on New York is just ridiculous.
So it's wild.
end of the day.
Totally agree with Mason, 100%, but I don't know how much is that going to be persuaded
by the love they have for Jalen.
He's my father.
Crazy.
Okay, so another thing, you know, everybody keeps saying Spurs can't go to the garden down
2.
It's not going to happen.
A, A, A.
So looking into this next game, Mace, tonight, do you think they have a chance?
I think if there's ever a game they're going to win, is this game.
other than this game, there's no other game to win.
Because if they lose tonight,
they're not going to come back Wednesday and win.
It's going to be, oh, my goodness.
Every dunk, every shot that goes in,
people are just going to lose it.
I think this is the game.
They have to win.
But I don't think they win it.
I don't think they win it.
I think New York is only, but they might.
They might.
Let me check that back.
This might be the game they could win, because Trump coming is going to change the atmosphere.
All right.
So many factors.
Yeah, Mace is correct.
Like, listen, look, you had to win one at home, and they didn't do that.
But if there's a game that they ever have to have to win, it has to be tonight.
Because I've seen it in game two, actually.
It looked like game two when they were down 12 points, 13.
was 12, 14 points, you could tell the body language.
You can see the, damn, we're about to lose this one too.
They made a great comeback in the fourth quarter, less than five men's left.
But you look going into that end of the third quarter, when the Knicks are up, going
into the fourth quarter, the body language for the Spurs said it all.
They were almost like, forget it.
Knicks start making some shots.
They start making some shots.
They start making some shots.
They start making some shots.
They come in to that garden down 03.
When you talk about the pressure, the last question you asked that,
this is going to be pressure like you've never seen in 03
because what people are going to be doing
is the celebration starts after game three.
You don't win it.
It starts immediately.
It starts at what?
Game starts at 8.30 Eastern Standard Time.
The celebration starts at 11 p.m. for the championship tomorrow night.
if the Spurs don't win the game.
It's already started a celebration.
Yeah.
But the real, like, not go to sleep for a week and a half celebration
starts tomorrow night at 11 p.m.
If the Spurs do not pull this game off.
So if it was a game they ever had to win, like I said,
I think they need to win in San Antonio.
But you go down in 03, I think they're mentally tapped out
and don't even win the game four.
So I want to be optimistic here, right?
just because
you know, I'm not saying
they're going to lose.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
Because, listen, you don't know.
I don't know either.
No, no way.
No, no.
That's why we get, you know,
people get paid to make educated guesses.
I'm just saying, looking at the body language
of the San Antonio Spurs,
listen, they may mentally be like,
we was there, we had a chance to win this game.
They had no chance to win game one.
They could go in the game too and say,
that game was ours and feel mentally good.
And then the Knicks may have,
out the mentality like, nigga, we let too many things fuck up.
Jalen Brunson didn't play good.
Josh Hart with no points.
Listen, they may look at it like this, but like I'm saying,
I want you to be optimistic what you was about to say,
but I'm not saying that they, Knicks are definitely going to win.
I'm just telling you what's going to happen if they do win tomorrow night.
Sorry, go ahead.
I mean, I interrupted you.
I was just going to say it is difficult because it's like going into this series.
I mean, I know I predicted the Knicks,
but it's like I don't want to completely count this burst.
out just because I just don't think you can count anybody out.
But I want to go to like a deeper conversation regarding this because I think Mays,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong, at some point you were saying if Wemby does blank,
he could start getting into maybe not specifically the goat conversation, but up into those
ranks just because of who he is, his stature and what he could accomplish.
But say the Spurs, right, are able to completely flip this series around, right?
He's going down.
That's my question to you.
He's going down as the goat.
For now.
What does that mean for now?
That's new hotness speech.
I'm learning new hotness lingo.
They'll find a reason to put you at the top.
Even if they have to make a new category, it's goat for now until we talk about it later.
It's just a new way to look at it.
So you would put him in that category.
If they flip the series, that's what I'm asking.
If he comes back and wins this in six, he's the goat.
Okay.
Cam, your thoughts.
I don't know about the goat, but he has to be in the conversation.
And it depends on what kind of performance he has in these games, too.
Like, you know, we've seen, I think it was last series game one,
when he had 42 and 24, it got to be that.
Yeah.
It got to be that.
And I don't think that they let them have it.
Because think about this, right?
I'm not in this, and I'm not sitting there comparing,
but you went against this.
You just went against Haunstein,
and I don't know what Chet was doing.
I know that Knicks looked at it, like,
we're not doing that.
We're not going to let them niggas.
There's two black niggas, and them just two white niggas.
That's how he looked at it.
He disrespected the white boy.
That's how motherfucker, O.G., Mitchell Robinson,
and Kat may be looking at it.
But it depends on what kind of performance he has.
I think that also a real, real big problem is, and I talked about a game one, Stefan Castle.
You know, we talk about how good Stefan Castle could be and should be,
and people talk about he's going to make an all-MBA team next year, et cetera.
It's too many times he's in the paint, look in the past, and they're anticipating that.
They're anticipating his pass and he's turning the ball over.
I'd rather him miss than turn a ball over several times, especially when you're in the paint.
just don't get it. So it's not just going to be Wembe. It's going to take help from
Sefong Castle. Mace pointed this out early as well. You got Dillon Harper playing great in the
first half, and then you go away from that in the second half. I know for me, the way I look at
the Spurs play coach by Mitch Johnson is that it's the ultimate team basketball. This
thing I have 20 this half, this and this guy have 20 next half outside of Wembe I'm talking about.
And fuck that.
If I got 17 the first half,
we're going to see what it's looking like
in the second half.
Yo, I know motherfucking PT,
you open, but I'm hot.
I'm hot.
Let me see how this is going to turn out.
That was crazy.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
Yeah, pause.
But pause, whatever.
Yeah, but I'm just saying,
you're right, that was a pause.
But that's just the facts.
If I'm hot, pause, I got to go.
I got to go, man.
That's a fact.
No, that was just true because they're worried about who they want to win the game for them.
Instead of in the championship, it's whoever gets going, Paul's because we've seen a spur team where Kawhi Linnet was the MVP.
But he was on a team with all of these players that could have been MVP as well.
But he caught the assignment.
He delivered the deliverables.
And that's why he's MVP.
And I think this Spurs team could still, they could have still been a champs.
It's just they refuse to let Harper have this moment.
It's really his moment because he's the difference maker on that team.
And especially if you're 6'6 and you're guarded by God that's 6.1,
there's no way he's supposed to be able to stop you.
And you could see when he got the basket and he made a face towards Jalen Brunson.
You could tell he was ready to take over the game, but then they took the ball right back out of his hands,
put it back in Deerrin Fox hand.
He hit a three, but then they start drifting again.
And this happened two games straight.
If you go back and look, Harper got going in the first game.
They went away from him.
And he was looking like they couldn't guard him, but for some reason, the coach Mitch,
he just wants somebody else to be the player.
And it's going to cost him the championship.
Yeah, a lot of adjustments to be made, but we will see what happens tonight.
Okay, so before we wrap, I want to talk about these ticket prices because that's just been a big discussion that a lot of people obviously have been complaining about.
Josh Hart actually talked about it and said, I kind of wish the ticket prices weren't as crazy as they are.
I feel like a lot of people who have been waiting for this moment for a very long time, unfortunately, aren't able to get into the building.
The cheapest ticket is $7,000, $8,000. That's ridiculous, which the ticket prices do look.
real crazy.
Mace, what's your opinion on the prices?
Yeah, I told Nick if he wanted to go to the game,
I would get him a ticket, but he said he didn't want to go.
It's 8,000 to be in those briefs.
He said cap.
Flag on the play.
I did tell him that.
They record everything in here.
We could go back to the tape.
You didn't.
You said, do you want to go to the game?
He said, yeah, I would love to go to the game.
You said, okay.
But then he said he doesn't want to go.
I don't think anybody would decline next tickets right now.
Yeah, I asked him, do you want to sit in the nosebleed seats?
Because that's where you got to sit for a right.
Y'all, everybody needs a face pan because this, come on, come on, come on, like, this is the one time I hushed, but I know because I was trying to get a ticket too.
You didn't ask me.
I said courtesy of it is what it is.
Companies normally send people to the games.
Look at Cam.
Flag on the play.
Flag on the play.
Throw all the hats.
I second that.
This is where you bring in all of the caps.
All of them.
From the bag.
You need to bring that back.
And then before Cam goes, just to elaborate a little bit more,
I feel like ticket prices have been a complaint amongst a lot of people,
especially just right now.
So how do you feel about, I guess, die hard, true friends,
not being able to go watch sporting events
or see concerts due to these prices, like, elevating?
Now, when it comes to Usher and Chris Brown,
I understand that.
The prices should be probably where they are
because people want to see both of them, right?
These are two sell-out things.
But when you comes to the Knicks,
and they haven't won since 73,
you got to let everybody in the building,
but I think this is a marketing moment.
This is where, you know, Dolan makes all of the money
he could possibly make.
This is where the league makes the money.
And it just seems like right now, that's where it is.
I didn't think it would be $8,000 all the way at the top.
I didn't think anybody would even want those tickets.
But it seems like today, people just want to be in a building.
They want to be able to say, especially in the TikTok era,
I was there when the Knicks won the championship.
Yeah.
So I think that's the reason why the tickets are so high.
And I believe to a degree they should be.
I totally agree with James Dolan.
I need Mons back.
Man, too long, I need to get Mons back, man.
Niggas want to get paid.
Everybody want to get paid, right?
Y'all thinks is going to get that money, right?
We might got to go into the luxury tax to keep the team together.
James Dolan Well, you want to keep the
tax to pay everybody. Well, you want to keep
the team together? It'd be like that.
Sorry. Yo, niggas got to get paid.
You talk about Usher
and Chris Brown
and their tickets being expensive.
You go see them in a bunch of states. This is going to happen
one time. We don't know when the next time
this is going to happen. I need to get it while it's hot.
I need to get wilds hot. And I'm going to tell you
this right now. Don't let them with
when game three, price of the brick going up game four.
Game four going to be double what game three is.
Yeah.
I don't know if you bought tickets for game four already
because it's definitely going to be a game four.
But if you haven't, I could imagine the price gals just going to go up.
And then don't let it extend it to be a game six.
Listen, it's business.
And I get it.
Don't get me wrong.
It should definitely be a section eight section.
You know what I'm saying?
I totally agree.
It should definitely be a section and a section.
I agree with that, a part of it.
But the end of the day, this only happens once in a while.
Then what I think so many people fail to realize
because there's so many of us,
I'm talking about New Yorkers as a New Yorker,
that it's a really rich, rich, rich New Yorkers.
Yeah.
This shit went, you think Larry David
give a fuck about paying $190,000 for a ticket?
You see, Ben Stiller, course.
This is not, this is not,
This ain't even a speeding ticket to these niggas.
So I understand where us, the urban New York is coming from.
But it's a lot of rich, famous New Yorkers, man,
that this will not hurt their pockets, man.
So I feel for the people who want to be there.
But at the same time, as a businessman, James Dolan said,
look, I need my...
James Doughton still ain't letting Charles Oakley in the building.
This is a thing is trying to protest to get Charles Oakley back
and James Dolan said, nah, man, kick rocks, bro.
You said this was a plantation, why you want to come back?
Yeah, you want back in the plantation?
Yeah, so at the end of the day, I feel sorry.
I think they should figure it out for Section 8, maybe you ever,
what I feel as a businessman, James Dolan saying, look, man,
I don't know the next time this is going to happen, man.
I'm charging niggas where I can charge them.
I feel both sides, because there's a business.
businessman, too. Let me ask you this.
Mace, what you charged?
12.
For the cheapest?
Yeah, I already know.
It's 12.
I already know.
I already know.
You own the guard.
You want to go in the game or not.
That you know, nobody got time for that.
This is a once-in-the-lifetime moment.
Secondly, if you won't pay somebody else with it.
Fair point.
Sex and 8 section, I like that, though,
because it's like, dang, because this is a once-in-in-law.
I mean, who knows at this point?
It's 12 and 2-20, man.
12 and 2 for 20, man.
It's 12 and 2 for 20.
Come with your boo, 2 for 20.
Times 2.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
But game 3 tonight, y'all,
let us know your predictions in the comments down below.
But that is all the time that we have for today.
Thank you all for watching.
and as always, it is what it is.
