IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE KNICKS HAVE A COMMAND ON THE NBA FINALS BUT ARE WE SURE THEY GONNA CLOSE IT OUT?!

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. Killer, what's going on, man? It's good, man. How you doing today? chilling, man. That's what's up. Are you all ready for a third team? What team are you on?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Who is your team? We never found out who your team was. I wanted to know if you're getting a third team now. I'm going to stay strong. I'm going to stay real strong. Shout out to the next, though. Honestown. I'm just checking the rooms.
Starting point is 00:01:04 You're in the portal? No, but I'm going to support New York as a whole. But it's not over. Like, it's not over, guys. Why are you supporting New York as a whole? Just accent. Because I like the city of New York. I mean, that's all.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Maybe like seven times. So you know. Let me get it straight. You like the city of New York so you're going to support it as a whole, but your team is Golden State. Yes, and the heat. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:29 But you don't support Golden State City? Um, I like the city of the Bay, but I like New York. New York is one of those cities when I went to and I was like, New York. I never heard this before. This first time I've heard this. But I like the city of New York or that I don't.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yes, Dad, did you like the city in New York? Really? Yes, that this is going crazy. Well, I thought I've claimed that before. No, New York is dope. Because being from. Florida. I mean, I know I'm telling y'all, but like, yeah, it's like, this is so cool.
Starting point is 00:02:00 That's just how I feel about it. It's a perfect time to feel like that about it. Okay, no. I know, like, might be convenient. Even if it wasn't now, like, even if the Knicks weren't winning, like, I just liked the city. If the Knicks wasn't winning, you wouldn't be like, I support the city of New York. No, I would, though, because New York is always a good idea. Like, me and my friends, like, for us, like, going to New York, like, because we're not,
Starting point is 00:02:23 from there. That's a cool experience. Y'all know, though, already. I think it's in the control room who's just like, yeah. I brought a flag on the play. Hey, I can't like New York. I can't like New York. The whole control room looking crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Damn. Guys, I just like this in New York. That's all. This is why all you got to do is win, killer. Oh, I know. The finals are a shot. You got to win. I already know.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Niggas does saying they always loves you. Yeah. Yeah, I've been in love with the city. It goes crazy, man. I don't remember what topic we was talking about. I don't remember, but we said winning, fix everything. Yes. Yeah, we have.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. It doesn't matter. That's not even my reason, y'all. I just like visiting the city. But I see where y'all are coming from because it sounds mighty convenient, even though it's not supposed to be. But let's get into the game because we've got to recap this game, too. the people have been waiting to hear what y'all have to say so the nix beat the spurs 105 to
Starting point is 00:03:27 104 spurs will be heading to new york down o and two with the hopes to secure their first win mace how did you feel about the way this game turned out this is exactly what i predicted that new york would sweep the spurs right and when i first said it it sounded crazy to the listeners ear but as you start to watch the series, you begin to see that. Wembe is going to play well. What I thought about the game was that these is just fundamental things that they're doing that's wrong. Like, you don't pass the ball with a person's back turn. That's number one. The, um, the, the, the man that's seven-four shouldn't be bringing the ball up. This is, you need a point God. All of the things that I shared, like in all of the games leading up to this, just played out,
Starting point is 00:04:21 dramatically right before my eyes. Then at the end of the game, I even had to call kill up. I couldn't believe it. Wimby takes the jump shot and they're only down one. You go to the rack. You go to the rack. I mean, the rest of the game, I was just looking at this game. Like, I knew the Knicks was going to win.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I just didn't know in what fashion they would win. When I saw OG get the dunk, I say, oh, yeah, this is going, they're going to win. this game. And it seems like the coach and Killer made this point. I don't want to steal his point. No, that's cool. But it seemed like it seemed like Harper was just, Hopper is just, Hopper is better than Brunson, but they're going away from Harper. Harper is the key to the winning. If they would have stuck with Harper, it seemed like Harper get going and then they stopped going away from him. Then Darren Fox hit the three. He had to step back three. they go away from Darren Fox.
Starting point is 00:05:23 It just seemed like the coach just was doing a horrible job, and I'm just going to stop there because I know Killer won't expect on that. No, it's cool. No, no, no. Yeah. When it comes to San Antonio, every, it seemed like they're in desperate need of a power forward. They haven't figured out how to run the offense the way Pop used to run it. And they got all of the talent if they would just run a triangle part. If they were running a triangle, they would dominate the league for five years.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Because the way the triangle runs, they will all get the ball pulled close to the basket and in a position where they could be dominant. But it seemed like they choose to run some different offense and just go one-on-one. When realistically, you put Wemby somewhere down on the baseline and you attack the rack. If they help, throw it up. Pause. That's just a basket every single time. But it seemed like they didn't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:23 They want to win some other kind of way. And when Wimby got that play down the middle pause, I really thought that was the time when I thought, oh, they're about to make this one in one. And I thought if they made it one and one, they would have won the series. But that one, that one play, I think is going to cost them. Because when they go back to New York,
Starting point is 00:06:45 it's going to be nuts, pause. Everybody is coming from everywhere. everywhere that you've never heard a place that loud. They're going to be going crazy. They stepped it up, killer. Now he's not just, Jalen Brunson is not just his mechanic. He's not just his doctor. Now he's his pope.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Whoever that guy is on Instagram, you're really keeping the Knicks alive. Yeah. Yeah, Mace called me and said Jalen Brunson sold out. when he missed a free throw. He choked. He said, he says, this New York,
Starting point is 00:07:24 I know it. Don't let him fool you up here. He was like, I knew it. He sold out. He called me after Jaylen Brousler. He said, look at him.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Look at the next day. Sold out. I knew it. So don't let him come up here and act like, he knew all this because he was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:07:44 I knew it what happened. I say, yeah. But to be honest with you, if you look at my mom, whole take on serious now. If you look at my whole take from after game one, they did the same thing, to be honest with you in game two. I say, yo, offensive rebounds.
Starting point is 00:08:02 They don't get offensive rebounds to allow Knicks to get offensive rebounds. You got Alvarado getting offensive rebounds. You got Josh Hart tipping out. Yo, the offensive rebound game for the Knicks is crazy. I said this before the series started. Next thing, even that last play with Wimby, I said that after game one. Why are they so comfortable with the center getting the ball
Starting point is 00:08:31 and turning their back and run up the court? I said everything they did, I said. Then the next, that's. I told Nick, make me a clip with a, so I posted a whole clip of after I take from game one, and they did it again in game two. then the inexperience on the coaching. Once again, I said the shit about the coaching. You got out coached Ms. Johnson two games in a row.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So now, right, the game is tied up. This is before Wimby tries to pass at the castle and turns the ball over. You have a very young team. A 21-year-old storm you're talking about stuff on Castle, 22 old superstar when you're talking about Wembe. You have a young team. the game's tied up.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You get the rebound with 15 seconds left. You don't call, you have to call time out. You had a time out left. You have to call time out in that situation, bro. I know you're saying let them play. Let's see what happened. We saw last series. We see Wemby bring it up and hit a shot from 38 feet.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That's not going to happen every series as an experience. And maybe you're an experience. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that too. No disrespect. but this is your first year. But you have to, you got 15 seconds left, when he gets the ball, and the game is tied,
Starting point is 00:09:51 you call time out. You know why? Because either we're going to win this game or we're going to lose it or win it in overtime. We're not going to give them another chance to get the ball. You call time out, you set up a play, and the last shot is with zero seconds on the clock.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's what happens, man. Inexperience. I know Pop is up in the skybox losing his motherfucking mind. I know he's losing a loser. It's motherfucking mind, man. I already know it, man. So the lack of inexperience is just showing. You know, during this season, a lot of people like,
Starting point is 00:10:25 oh, the Spurs, they're a year two away, their year two away. And they said, well, maybe it's their time now. Maybe it's their time now. And then, you know, they end up being Portland and they beat, you know, a hobo, Minnesota. We have to think about that. It wasn't like it was Devin Chishol and Aunt Man wasn't there. Also, and then, you know, you beat Golden.
Starting point is 00:10:44 pardon me, not Golda State, you beat the Thunder, which they were hobbled. They didn't have J-dub and their second league scorer and Mitchell. So we're not saying that those teams aren't good without their players, but it was a lot of key players missing leading up to this championship run. Now, I'm not going to count y'all out, but the end of day, it don't look good. Now, let's get to the Knicks. The Knicks look dialed in, all the way dialed in. You got Carl Anthony Town busing fucking Wemby's ass.
Starting point is 00:11:14 my nigga, like literally, spanking Wemby, making them look less than average. He almost looking like Sean Bradley, the way motherfucking Carl Anthony Towns is busting his ass. Then you got OGN and Nobly just looking stronger than everybody on the court. Jalen Brunson didn't even have a good game. He didn't even have a good game. He had a subpar game for, I'm talking about Jalen Brunson standards. And with all this going on, Sherman looking good off the bench, you had Deuce McBride coming in, making stuff. Josh Hart didn't even score
Starting point is 00:11:46 on the thing. Let me see. No. He didn't even score. And then you know, McKell Bridges said fuck them seven picks y'all keep talking about. He's coming up looking good. If you look at also, the Knicks are downed in on defense.
Starting point is 00:12:02 They know the plays San Antonio going to run. You got to look at the when people are shooting free throws for San Antonio, look at the Knicks communication on defense or when the Knicks are shooting free throws, pardon me. Look at the communication. getting back. Talking about what played San Antonio is going to run.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Throwing up signs. I don't know what the signs they're throwing up. They throwing all that up and niggas is like, okay, they're going to do that. These niggas is downed in, man. And, you know, I'm not going to say so Santo, but you shouldn't have went back 2-0, bro. You shouldn't have went back to O' and then back to Macy's point. You got Wembe with a good shot with
Starting point is 00:12:40 Mitchell Lorne, and you want to shoot a a mid-range, you go to the basket, try to get contact, so therefore if you don't make the basket, at least you try to get a foul. It's just an experience. Last thing I'll say about this is desperately, desperately, man, y'all have to get somebody.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Wimby's not a center. Wimby's like a four. Maybe sometimes three. It would ship me and PT watching game. Like, what is he doing the shimmy spin around from 17 feet out? What are you doing? San Antonio has nobody rough to deal with Mitchell Robertson. And I don't even think calling any tails is that rough, but he's strong.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And it looks like nobody had to deal with him. And then you definitely don't got nobody strong enough for O.G. And then normally not saying that your niggins or San Antonio is so awful pussy and nothing like that. What I'm saying is y'all physically aren't tall or strong enough to deal with the Knicks have on the paint. And what I see is y'all depend on when be all these games get rebounds, and they're pushing and muscling him out. And therefore, San Antonio, when they go down and miss, they won and done. It's one and done with the Knicks against second, third,
Starting point is 00:13:55 and maybe possibly fourth chance opportunities. San Antonio Miss, it's a one and done deal. It's no offensive rebounds, none whatsoever. So if I'm y'all in the offseason, I'm not saying the player I'm naming or the players I'm about the name you could get because I don't know their contract situation. y'all need a Julius Randu type nigger. Y'all need a strong power forward or a real center.
Starting point is 00:14:17 That nigga Williams, who's on Boston, who are in Portland now, y'all need one of them type niggas because y'all don't have it. We'll see what happens tonight at the garden. I'm talking about moving forward. That's what y'all need. And like I said, maybe this is where y'all hit the brick wall when everybody's talking about, well, they're a year two away. They're a year two away.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Maybe so. We'll see what happens. Try to make an interest. Try to make it interesting, y'all, because the way the Knicks are down there and they want to wrap this shit up this week. And going home is gonna be a lot of energy. Now what I will say is this.
Starting point is 00:14:51 If anything might fuck it up, is Trump coming to the game. Trump's coming out, Secret Service is coming. He's fucking up all the watch parties. He says, no watch parties. This is gonna be interesting to watch outside the game. Because the way New York is acting, it's like they don't care about none. I see niggas rip in San Antonio's shirts off niggas.
Starting point is 00:15:10 shirt off, niggas. A nigger had to land a hawk jersey on. Landa hawk spin home. They ripped his shit up right off his shirt. Nick, play the take. This is what I'm telling you. I don't know what kind of battle with the Secret Service is going to happen tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:15:30 but fellow New Yorkers, dead ass, you know, I'll be trolling all that shit. Even though Spurs my team, as a New York, I love the carotery. I love the solidarity. They was talking about how crime is down in New York. Crime is down in New York. The camaraderie is beautiful to see.
Starting point is 00:15:45 to see. Don't let the cops or the Secret Service, whoever, run you over because when Trump convoy come through, they're not stopping. Just be careful out there tonight. That's all I would like to say to felt New Yorkers. Have fun, but be careful. We have more things to dive into regarding
Starting point is 00:16:01 game two, and that was a great breakdown, by the way, but since you bring up Trump attending Game 3, which, like you said, a lot of things are going to be shut down. Nobody can bring in bags. Like, Secret Service is going to be around. Mace, what is your opinion on that? How do you think he's going to go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I don't want Trump at the game. I don't want no new people at the game. Whatever's been working, don't show up to the garden and they lose the game. This is what I'm thinking right now. If you got the Knicks playing the way they plan, anything new could jeopardize what we've been seeing. It's just that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And people are going to blame you. People, if you think, they hated Trump before. If he comes to this game and they lose his presidency might be on the line in New York. They're just going to have a hard time
Starting point is 00:16:57 you know, dialing in with Trump there because it breaks the it breaks a lot of the things that are going on. Now, you know, Trump has visited sports in the garden before. But this is not the time. I think if you're Trump, you've got to
Starting point is 00:17:13 come to game four if they win game three, but don't come to game three. Why? If they lose and Trump is there, this all goes towards Trump. That's what they're going to blame it on. You notice that, I notice, PT notice, killer notice,
Starting point is 00:17:30 and it's just going to change the outside. I love the energy of New York right now. I've not seen one blood or crypt in the whole city since the Knicks have been winning. Everything has been harmonious.
Starting point is 00:17:45 You know, everybody is unified. I don't know who's GD, B, D, or anything right now. Everybody is just New York Knick fans. And I love this for New York. I'm seeing gangsters smile. They're making pop records. This is a great time for New York. You got to love it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And Trump coming in there just makes it too serious. You know how you're having a good time and somebody come in? You got to cater to them. you got to make this. It's going to mess up the vibe. I'm telling you, it's going to mess up the vibe. That's what I think. 100% mess up the vibe.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Where is it going to sit? Where is Trump going to sit? Is he going to be on the front and then people standing around him and people can't really cheer? Or he's going to be in a skybox and the skybox is going to have a red beam on it or, you know, we just don't need that in New York.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I like it with people standing all on top of the marquee. you know what I'm saying they were crowd surfing with a bike somebody was crowd surfing with a bike Trump comes in the whole block got to be clear
Starting point is 00:18:55 just think of that the whole 8th Avenue got to be clear 7th Avenue got to be clear where do those people go they got to watch it from nine blocks away it changes the
Starting point is 00:19:08 atmosphere I like it the way it is Trump just stay home man just stay home watch it From the Oval, man. From the Oval. Roger from the Oval. Kim, any more added thoughts? Yeah, what I will say this.
Starting point is 00:19:22 If there's one nigga who don't care more than me is Trump. All that shit may say could go out the window. Trump is coming. I'll tell you that right now. If there's one nigga who don't give a fuck with nobody say, Trump is coming. So that's why I gave my speech earlier. You could forget about him staying home.
Starting point is 00:19:39 It's already a done deal. I let y'all know I'm coming. do what y'all got to do. So I agree with Mesa's saying, but that's not going to happen. But that's what we were talking about earlier, is that where's he going? If he said Korside, that's just crazy. Imagine a nigga running in the Trump and Secret Service basketball play. And the Secret Service jump out everywhere.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You know what I'm saying? So like I said, just do the best to prepare because I think, I don't think there's nobody who get a kick more out of telling somebody something and they do the other thing. I think he's number one at that. What? Matter of fact, don't come. I'll be there early.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Fuck is you talking about? I really believe that. And then the way you think about somebody like Trump, I know he's our president and all that shit, right? But let's keep it tall. Like, Trump's a New Yorker. He's really a New Yorker, bro. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You're the president now. It's going to be a mess. The niggas man, the gas prices. Shit, sky. That's what niggas told me. I was speaking, nigger, niggas. Yeah, they're going to get going to get on that, that nigger about the gas prices at the guard.
Starting point is 00:20:50 But deep down, he has a man real estate. He's from New York. Mace used to, damn near living, Trump Tower. Nah, niggas, tell a nigga don't come to the game. Tell her you, because what's it happened there, killer? New York is the place they might jump secret services.
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, no. I told niggas that. They could jump secret service. If they lose, they'd, When I'm telling, niggas, it's this, I'm not disagreeing with you because this is why I said, be careful because I know niggas are trying to. I don't know if you've seen when niggas had the police body cam on the train talking about Nixon for. They take him body cam.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But that's what I'm trying. But this is what I was trying to tell you. This is something different, y'all. I'm telling you, the way they're wilding outside, they will try, try, try. and they will make security do their job. And they're going to do something. They're going to do their job. They're going to do a job.
Starting point is 00:21:51 That's why I said, that's why I was trying to explain. Maybe I explained it correctly, and I explained it for the fans that be out there. It's going to be, I don't know if y'all know where the convoy is. A convoy is a group of cars back to back, possibly side by side as well. Do not jump in front of the convoy because. was that convoy of Trump's convoy's not going to stop. I was there, this wasn't
Starting point is 00:22:18 a sporting event, I was just driving downtown maybe just during Trump's first president run. And they had the streets blocked off, and it was like 32 cars back to back to back, and they had niggas literally, they had cars pulling me, not just me, I'm driving,
Starting point is 00:22:36 but you know how they come down and swerve, so you got to swerve, and you're like, yo, but it's six and out. on these side making all the traffic go like towards the parked cars and then 19 cars just going straight through running red lights all that so y'all just be careful man that's what I'm gonna say because one thing for sure maybe I maybe but I don't see it I don't see him saying you know what this would be too big of a distraction I just don't see him saying it so just be just be careful you all I want you everybody to be safe yeah like what cam and
Starting point is 00:23:12 saying now, that's exactly what I see. I'm telling them I don't think you should go for even political reasons. I think somebody's going to get hurt. It got somebody getting hurt written all over. People are going to be drunk. People are like, you know what? I ain't moving.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You know, if you're from where I'm from, somebody is going to say, nigga, I didn't move for Obama, nigga, I'm not moving for Trump. I didn't move for Farrakhan. nigga, I'm gonna be right here. I did them come through, you know, that kind of vibe.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I'm not saying you should do this. I agree. But I can almost guarantee you somebody is thinking, why are y'all moving? And killer said it, the convoy is coming through. Convoy is going to have to run me over there. All right, by that kind of vibe. And that's what we don't need.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And the Knicks playoff, you know? And then if they lose and somebody, get hurt. Trump can't show up nowhere. He'll lose all of his support in New York. It's that simple. Listen, man, you all realize, man. I think he tried to snipe Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Trump said, yeah, he let people in the White House to jump niggas, you know? Yeah, that's like a siker here. I'm out. Aye. Like you said, the back door open pores.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Y'all know what you're dealing with. You got to know your personnel, man. That's crazy. Good luck to everyone. I don't know what you just said. Got niggas off and paid. Niggas, he let in the White House and they went to jail and got off. I don't know how much.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I don't keep up with a lot of political shit. But I see that the government, niggas is getting mad because Trump trying to get like a billion dollar fund to say that them people got locked up, went through mental torture and all that shit. So he's trying to get that. Them niggas paid as well. What was them niggas?
Starting point is 00:25:15 The wild boys? They had the name. What was the name? Yeah. Yo, the left-hand boys. What the niggas was up again? The proud boys. I knew so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's crazy. Trump trying to get the proud boys paid talking about mental restitution and all that. They went through something. So I was reading that the other day. I'm not really knowledgeable, so I'm not acting like I know a lot was going on. But I just thought the fact that niggis got rushed the White House, get locked up.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Nigger Trump come home. Get them out. Now get them paid? Yeah. Wow, nigga, boy. Yeah. And then, yeah, this, I'm just going to say good luck to everybody because even just seeing that they're, like, not allowing watch parties and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I just don't really know how that's going to allow them watch. They shut all the watch parties there. Everything shut down, like, for safety. You can't have a watch party there if the president's there. You can't bring a bag. He was so concerned. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:11 There ain't no watch. I don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a freedom of speech guy and, you know, like that says, if you can get away with it. But don't mess it up for anybody, man. Yeah, because it is a...
Starting point is 00:26:25 No, watch parties are just crazy. No, we don't watch party around the garden. Around the ball, yeah. Because you know... Because you know all that... Yeah, but that's where the energy is coming from. I totally agree. Because think about this, right?
Starting point is 00:26:38 When you see the Knicks fans the other day after game, too, It was crazy outside. And they was away. Yeah. Imagine what this is going to be tomorrow, my nigga. This is what I'm trying to tell you. I was on a way game. Listen, it is niggins at home, like you said, Mace.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Pardon me. With a blueprint talking about now if we start on 32nd Street and go around the 6th Avenue, I know we can freak it to win. This niggas telling you right now. They're doing that right now. bro. I'm telling you, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:13 It is niggas right-na play. Because we know New York. Yeah, niggas is laying the blueprint. They're going to stop us, nigga. If you come down 31st Street and go around the 6th and then lean over this 7th,
Starting point is 00:27:24 we could do the whole shit. I'm telling you. We're going to park in the morning. You know, they say that I've seen the show in the news on ABC News. Even coming to the Guard, it's TSA-style security
Starting point is 00:27:39 to get in the Guard. come there two hours earlier, like, you go into a flight because it's new, you can't go, first of all, you can't bring a bag. There's no bags to the guard. So you have to come two hours, it's a mess, it's gonna be a mess. No pocketbooks.
Starting point is 00:27:54 No pocketbooks. They can't have no bags. They are not long, nobody have nothing. Yeah, it changes everything. If you thought before it was crazy, I don't even know how they're gonna maintain after, because everybody, there's a video of J.R. Smith getting mobbed by a whole bunch of fans.
Starting point is 00:28:09 They do not care. Nobody cares. right now, so I don't know. That's something that's just saying, good luck. Be safe. But on the political, though, on a serious note, it's really, with the war and all that shit going on, it's just really not a good time.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You're right. But Trump is really one of them niggas like, I thought we're just the land of the free. Land of the brave. Yeah, home of the brave land. Home of the brave. Yeah. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Only take is one nigga to run through the course and say, a-thru to the court. I don't think somebody gonna run on the court tomorrow, though, Trump. They ran on the court in San Antonio. Literally, literally. Yeah, and got a picture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And posted it. First nigga to get near Trump, everybody getting fired. Selfie. Stop the game. They would literally stop. I'm talking about... The secret serve, though. Trump.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You got to think about this. You got, listen, man. It's gonna be the popcorn. on lady's secret service. Everybody's, you don't know, the disguise is going to be wild. They're not going to have everybody. They're going to have their niggas dressed in black
Starting point is 00:29:21 and all that, but the undercover, it's going to be wild. Never know. You can't have them old people outside of the court this game. No. They're just standing there looking around. People running right past them.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Can't do it. Okay. So I want to go back to a point you were making regarding when, because you pinpointed a lot on inexperience, right? But especially from what we saw from game two and may someone go to you, does it seem like maybe Wembe can't handle the pressure?
Starting point is 00:29:51 Do you quote that to an experience or do you just think it's something else? No, I think Wembe is definitely coming to play. He just got to turn up even more. You know, the way he's playing is like he's trying to get other people involved and this is his moment, right? It's not for him to share a pause this moment with the team. It's for him to take this team and put the team on his back for them to go where they could go.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like even with him trying to make that pass, he shouldn't have made the pass. You got the ball. Like Cam did, you know, Cam came down and shot it. He was supposed to shoot it. I mean, when you really think about it, if you're that guy, I'm not passing the ball. I mean, when you really think about it, sometimes we just be joking. And I say that to him just to keep the joke going. But if I got the ball, I'm shooting the ball.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It's better that I miss than I pass it. And it go off your leg or, you know, like what happened right there? He threw the ball and hit Castle's back paws. And Jalen Brunson is still the ball. The first thing you're thinking is if you got the ball, you're already out of pocket for trying to dribble it up. So since you got it, you might as well get a bucket when in doubt. That's the play.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Get a bucket. So I think that he got to really take this game the way Carl Anthony Towns did. The first play that Carl Anthony Towns gets the ball, he rakes the ball and goes hard to the rack for a basket. And that's set the tone. I'm here to play. I'm not playing with you. We're here to get a championship. And that's how he got to play.
Starting point is 00:31:34 We need more nuns at the game. Since they're going to have Trump there, you might as well buy a, a whole row for the nuns. They're going to need 20 nuns to get this thing back in motion with spurs. Isn't the exact question? Yeah, does it seem like when you can't handle the pressure? You've credited just inexperience or something else? I don't think he's fine with the pressure.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You know, you gotta realize that. You see him in the huddle? See a niggick going off in the huddle? You know what I'm saying? It's just sometime, I think game one, he wanted it too bad, and sometime one it too bad can't get it. Second game, he's just taking ill-a-von shots.
Starting point is 00:32:12 That's why I got to credit some of this shit to coaching because you got a reel-a-player in sometime. We don't need you shimmying from 19 feet away from the basket shooting turnaround airballs. We just don't need that. So I don't think the pressure's too much. I think it's more about inexperience, needing help from your coaches,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and just not having the right pieces on your team, man. I said this before the series, started. The power for position, man, is, you can see the difference. Look, let's be realistic, right? And I would never accuse the NBA of this for Adam Silver. But it looked
Starting point is 00:32:53 fishy. We're watching the game. Knicks up 12 points. All of a sudden, some wild foul start getting cold. We don't see no fouls on the Knicks. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, everything as far as the calls is concerned is going to Nix way. They like, listen, if I'm Adam Silver and these niggas, I need the series to be extended
Starting point is 00:33:14 too. You don't want this over and four. The more games, the more money. So at the end of the day, we watching the game like, and listen, you know, niggas know the spurs been my team for years, and I'm even looking like, that wasn't no foul. Nah, come on, I was out of bounds on the spur. You know, I'm just being realist watching the game, you know what I mean? And they had several opportunities, but you got to take advantage of the opportunities you give in. So to answer your question, I don't think it's too much pressure on Wembe. It's a lack of inexperience. It's a lack of not having the physical attributes to deal with a Mitchell Robinson,
Starting point is 00:33:49 to deal with a Carl Anthony Towns, even though you could get chores on the office event, is they don't have it. Did you see when O.G. Nandali just dribbled up and dunked off on Wemby off the Virt? You know, it's wild disrespectful. Hung there, too. You need help down there, man. You're dealing with four guards and a center to me who's not the average center, even though you're labeling him a center.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So, no, I don't think that he's under pressure. I think it's inexperienced. You're dealing with a team also with the Knicks who had to do you think about this from the Knicks perspective. They have to wait a year to get back here. You know how it is to beat the champs and then losing the next round Indiana and then be like we shouldn't have lost Indiana and then got to wait a whole year with their same team. So you're dealing with that as well, man. A team who really wants it,
Starting point is 00:34:45 who should felt they should have been in this position last year and they're more mentally tough at the particular moment. We'll see what happens tonight. Yeah. And another note, I don't think it's safe for the Spurs, not just their fans, the Spurs. I think they didn't found out where the Spurs are staying, and I could just see people harassing women. I would tell the Spurs, don't eat anything, you're in the hotel. People want this championship for New York really bad. And there's things that happen. I remember joining them and was talking about different cities they went into.
Starting point is 00:35:21 In the hotel, people try to food poison them. No conspiracy here, just FYI, just good insight. I hope that doesn't happen. There's a lot of superstitious going on right now, so we're just gonna... New York fans are wild, Statt. Yeah. You could just imagine Wemby coming out,
Starting point is 00:35:40 going to the bus. What do you think they're saying to Wembe right now? It's video that. Yeah, they're going crazy. You know what I see, you're going to see the video all the people outside the whole hotel and Wembe and they're like,
Starting point is 00:35:51 fuck you and me. It's not dead ass, it's actual video. Y'all didn't see it? Oh, my God. No, I'm just thinking I can only imagine. I know I knew you. First of all, so basically it's two videos that I see. It's the Wimby and them coming out.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And it's a few people in the daytime. They're like, yo, fuck you, Wembe, fuck you, castle, they all walking to the bus. Then it's a video at nighttime where it's like 400 people out there like, fuck the Spurs, fuck the Spurs, they figured it out. I see Wimby. Wimby went to Rucker, though, murder.
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's fine. Went up there shooting around, Dolo. Oh, yeah. You wild nigger Is it Kyle Watson on? Yeah, yeah So you hear that nut so? Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:39 So if he doing that, Trump could come to the game Everybody wilder Everybody wilder Literally Everybody wilder Okay, so we're going to get Into some predictions Starting just with an early prediction
Starting point is 00:36:54 For your finals MVP Because there's been a lot of discussion Between Brunson and Kat But Mace, would your pick be right now? I mean, right now, you have to give it the pause. I think Cat would, I would think Kat. He set the tone for this team. Jalen Brunson just keeps coming through in the clutch, but as the game is going on, Kat is just consistent. Without Kat, without Kat. They wouldn't win even with the performance of Jalen Brunson. So if it's based upon who's the most valuable,
Starting point is 00:37:29 that would be the most valuable to me. I agree with Mace as far as Kat is the MVP so far of this series, but I don't know if voters will be persuaded with Jalen Brunson done all year. You know, some voters may be like, now fuck that. He did it all year. Now, if we're going off the series, I totally agree with Mace. Because think about this, it boils down to the series.
Starting point is 00:37:53 That's what the vote should be decided on. Steph Curry, out of the four championships that he has, only has one MVP. You know what I'm saying? Equal Dollar got MVP one year for playing good defense on LeBron James. So if we're talking about the series, I agree with Mace. It's cat, but just the grass that Jaylen Brunster has on New York City, he's their engineer, he's their doctor.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He's my father. The grass he has on New York is just ridiculous. So it's wild. end of the day. Totally agree with Mason, 100%, but I don't know how much is that going to be persuaded by the love they have for Jalen. He's my father. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Okay, so another thing, you know, everybody keeps saying Spurs can't go to the garden down 2. It's not going to happen. A, A, A. So looking into this next game, Mace, tonight, do you think they have a chance? I think if there's ever a game they're going to win, is this game. other than this game, there's no other game to win. Because if they lose tonight,
Starting point is 00:39:05 they're not going to come back Wednesday and win. It's going to be, oh, my goodness. Every dunk, every shot that goes in, people are just going to lose it. I think this is the game. They have to win. But I don't think they win it. I don't think they win it.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think New York is only, but they might. They might. Let me check that back. This might be the game they could win, because Trump coming is going to change the atmosphere. All right. So many factors. Yeah, Mace is correct. Like, listen, look, you had to win one at home, and they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:39:47 But if there's a game that they ever have to have to win, it has to be tonight. Because I've seen it in game two, actually. It looked like game two when they were down 12 points, 13. was 12, 14 points, you could tell the body language. You can see the, damn, we're about to lose this one too. They made a great comeback in the fourth quarter, less than five men's left. But you look going into that end of the third quarter, when the Knicks are up, going into the fourth quarter, the body language for the Spurs said it all.
Starting point is 00:40:21 They were almost like, forget it. Knicks start making some shots. They start making some shots. They start making some shots. They start making some shots. They come in to that garden down 03. When you talk about the pressure, the last question you asked that, this is going to be pressure like you've never seen in 03
Starting point is 00:40:38 because what people are going to be doing is the celebration starts after game three. You don't win it. It starts immediately. It starts at what? Game starts at 8.30 Eastern Standard Time. The celebration starts at 11 p.m. for the championship tomorrow night. if the Spurs don't win the game.
Starting point is 00:41:00 It's already started a celebration. Yeah. But the real, like, not go to sleep for a week and a half celebration starts tomorrow night at 11 p.m. If the Spurs do not pull this game off. So if it was a game they ever had to win, like I said, I think they need to win in San Antonio. But you go down in 03, I think they're mentally tapped out
Starting point is 00:41:21 and don't even win the game four. So I want to be optimistic here, right? just because you know, I'm not saying they're going to lose. Yeah. I'm just saying, I don't know. Because, listen, you don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I don't know either. No, no way. No, no. That's why we get, you know, people get paid to make educated guesses. I'm just saying, looking at the body language of the San Antonio Spurs, listen, they may mentally be like,
Starting point is 00:41:48 we was there, we had a chance to win this game. They had no chance to win game one. They could go in the game too and say, that game was ours and feel mentally good. And then the Knicks may have, out the mentality like, nigga, we let too many things fuck up. Jalen Brunson didn't play good. Josh Hart with no points.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Listen, they may look at it like this, but like I'm saying, I want you to be optimistic what you was about to say, but I'm not saying that they, Knicks are definitely going to win. I'm just telling you what's going to happen if they do win tomorrow night. Sorry, go ahead. I mean, I interrupted you. I was just going to say it is difficult because it's like going into this series. I mean, I know I predicted the Knicks,
Starting point is 00:42:24 but it's like I don't want to completely count this burst. out just because I just don't think you can count anybody out. But I want to go to like a deeper conversation regarding this because I think Mays, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, at some point you were saying if Wemby does blank, he could start getting into maybe not specifically the goat conversation, but up into those ranks just because of who he is, his stature and what he could accomplish. But say the Spurs, right, are able to completely flip this series around, right? He's going down.
Starting point is 00:42:53 That's my question to you. He's going down as the goat. For now. What does that mean for now? That's new hotness speech. I'm learning new hotness lingo. They'll find a reason to put you at the top. Even if they have to make a new category, it's goat for now until we talk about it later.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's just a new way to look at it. So you would put him in that category. If they flip the series, that's what I'm asking. If he comes back and wins this in six, he's the goat. Okay. Cam, your thoughts. I don't know about the goat, but he has to be in the conversation. And it depends on what kind of performance he has in these games, too.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Like, you know, we've seen, I think it was last series game one, when he had 42 and 24, it got to be that. Yeah. It got to be that. And I don't think that they let them have it. Because think about this, right? I'm not in this, and I'm not sitting there comparing, but you went against this.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You just went against Haunstein, and I don't know what Chet was doing. I know that Knicks looked at it, like, we're not doing that. We're not going to let them niggas. There's two black niggas, and them just two white niggas. That's how he looked at it. He disrespected the white boy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That's how motherfucker, O.G., Mitchell Robinson, and Kat may be looking at it. But it depends on what kind of performance he has. I think that also a real, real big problem is, and I talked about a game one, Stefan Castle. You know, we talk about how good Stefan Castle could be and should be, and people talk about he's going to make an all-MBA team next year, et cetera. It's too many times he's in the paint, look in the past, and they're anticipating that. They're anticipating his pass and he's turning the ball over.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'd rather him miss than turn a ball over several times, especially when you're in the paint. just don't get it. So it's not just going to be Wembe. It's going to take help from Sefong Castle. Mace pointed this out early as well. You got Dillon Harper playing great in the first half, and then you go away from that in the second half. I know for me, the way I look at the Spurs play coach by Mitch Johnson is that it's the ultimate team basketball. This thing I have 20 this half, this and this guy have 20 next half outside of Wembe I'm talking about. And fuck that. If I got 17 the first half,
Starting point is 00:45:30 we're going to see what it's looking like in the second half. Yo, I know motherfucking PT, you open, but I'm hot. I'm hot. Let me see how this is going to turn out. That was crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 That was crazy. Yeah, pause. But pause, whatever. Yeah, but I'm just saying, you're right, that was a pause. But that's just the facts. If I'm hot, pause, I got to go. I got to go, man.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's a fact. No, that was just true because they're worried about who they want to win the game for them. Instead of in the championship, it's whoever gets going, Paul's because we've seen a spur team where Kawhi Linnet was the MVP. But he was on a team with all of these players that could have been MVP as well. But he caught the assignment. He delivered the deliverables. And that's why he's MVP. And I think this Spurs team could still, they could have still been a champs.
Starting point is 00:46:32 It's just they refuse to let Harper have this moment. It's really his moment because he's the difference maker on that team. And especially if you're 6'6 and you're guarded by God that's 6.1, there's no way he's supposed to be able to stop you. And you could see when he got the basket and he made a face towards Jalen Brunson. You could tell he was ready to take over the game, but then they took the ball right back out of his hands, put it back in Deerrin Fox hand. He hit a three, but then they start drifting again.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And this happened two games straight. If you go back and look, Harper got going in the first game. They went away from him. And he was looking like they couldn't guard him, but for some reason, the coach Mitch, he just wants somebody else to be the player. And it's going to cost him the championship. Yeah, a lot of adjustments to be made, but we will see what happens tonight. Okay, so before we wrap, I want to talk about these ticket prices because that's just been a big discussion that a lot of people obviously have been complaining about.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Josh Hart actually talked about it and said, I kind of wish the ticket prices weren't as crazy as they are. I feel like a lot of people who have been waiting for this moment for a very long time, unfortunately, aren't able to get into the building. The cheapest ticket is $7,000, $8,000. That's ridiculous, which the ticket prices do look. real crazy. Mace, what's your opinion on the prices? Yeah, I told Nick if he wanted to go to the game, I would get him a ticket, but he said he didn't want to go. It's 8,000 to be in those briefs.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He said cap. Flag on the play. I did tell him that. They record everything in here. We could go back to the tape. You didn't. You said, do you want to go to the game? He said, yeah, I would love to go to the game.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You said, okay. But then he said he doesn't want to go. I don't think anybody would decline next tickets right now. Yeah, I asked him, do you want to sit in the nosebleed seats? Because that's where you got to sit for a right. Y'all, everybody needs a face pan because this, come on, come on, come on, like, this is the one time I hushed, but I know because I was trying to get a ticket too. You didn't ask me. I said courtesy of it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Companies normally send people to the games. Look at Cam. Flag on the play. Flag on the play. Throw all the hats. I second that. This is where you bring in all of the caps. All of them.
Starting point is 00:49:11 From the bag. You need to bring that back. And then before Cam goes, just to elaborate a little bit more, I feel like ticket prices have been a complaint amongst a lot of people, especially just right now. So how do you feel about, I guess, die hard, true friends, not being able to go watch sporting events or see concerts due to these prices, like, elevating?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Now, when it comes to Usher and Chris Brown, I understand that. The prices should be probably where they are because people want to see both of them, right? These are two sell-out things. But when you comes to the Knicks, and they haven't won since 73, you got to let everybody in the building,
Starting point is 00:49:53 but I think this is a marketing moment. This is where, you know, Dolan makes all of the money he could possibly make. This is where the league makes the money. And it just seems like right now, that's where it is. I didn't think it would be $8,000 all the way at the top. I didn't think anybody would even want those tickets. But it seems like today, people just want to be in a building.
Starting point is 00:50:18 They want to be able to say, especially in the TikTok era, I was there when the Knicks won the championship. Yeah. So I think that's the reason why the tickets are so high. And I believe to a degree they should be. I totally agree with James Dolan. I need Mons back. Man, too long, I need to get Mons back, man.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Niggas want to get paid. Everybody want to get paid, right? Y'all thinks is going to get that money, right? We might got to go into the luxury tax to keep the team together. James Dolan Well, you want to keep the tax to pay everybody. Well, you want to keep the team together? It'd be like that. Sorry. Yo, niggas got to get paid.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You talk about Usher and Chris Brown and their tickets being expensive. You go see them in a bunch of states. This is going to happen one time. We don't know when the next time this is going to happen. I need to get it while it's hot. I need to get wilds hot. And I'm going to tell you this right now. Don't let them with
Starting point is 00:51:23 when game three, price of the brick going up game four. Game four going to be double what game three is. Yeah. I don't know if you bought tickets for game four already because it's definitely going to be a game four. But if you haven't, I could imagine the price gals just going to go up. And then don't let it extend it to be a game six. Listen, it's business.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I get it. Don't get me wrong. It should definitely be a section eight section. You know what I'm saying? I totally agree. It should definitely be a section and a section. I agree with that, a part of it. But the end of the day, this only happens once in a while.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Then what I think so many people fail to realize because there's so many of us, I'm talking about New Yorkers as a New Yorker, that it's a really rich, rich, rich New Yorkers. Yeah. This shit went, you think Larry David give a fuck about paying $190,000 for a ticket? You see, Ben Stiller, course.
Starting point is 00:52:21 This is not, this is not, This ain't even a speeding ticket to these niggas. So I understand where us, the urban New York is coming from. But it's a lot of rich, famous New Yorkers, man, that this will not hurt their pockets, man. So I feel for the people who want to be there. But at the same time, as a businessman, James Dolan said, look, I need my...
Starting point is 00:52:45 James Doughton still ain't letting Charles Oakley in the building. This is a thing is trying to protest to get Charles Oakley back and James Dolan said, nah, man, kick rocks, bro. You said this was a plantation, why you want to come back? Yeah, you want back in the plantation? Yeah, so at the end of the day, I feel sorry. I think they should figure it out for Section 8, maybe you ever, what I feel as a businessman, James Dolan saying, look, man,
Starting point is 00:53:15 I don't know the next time this is going to happen, man. I'm charging niggas where I can charge them. I feel both sides, because there's a business. businessman, too. Let me ask you this. Mace, what you charged? 12. For the cheapest? Yeah, I already know.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's 12. I already know. I already know. You own the guard. You want to go in the game or not. That you know, nobody got time for that. This is a once-in-the-lifetime moment. Secondly, if you won't pay somebody else with it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Fair point. Sex and 8 section, I like that, though, because it's like, dang, because this is a once-in-in-law. I mean, who knows at this point? It's 12 and 2-20, man. 12 and 2 for 20, man. It's 12 and 2 for 20. Come with your boo, 2 for 20.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Times 2. Yeah. I don't know about that. But game 3 tonight, y'all, let us know your predictions in the comments down below. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank you all for watching. and as always, it is what it is.

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