IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE KNICKS MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE & WE NOT INTO PLAYERS SAYING THEY TOO TIRED!

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, we try to figure out how on earth are we going to fix the Suns and we not letting y'all slander Kevin Durant's legacy! Then, Jalen Brunson is hurt for the Knicks, is this a cause for concern for NY heading into the playoffs and Mikal Bridges says we playing too many minutes got Murda & Kill HEATED! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

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See, when I do wear one. We had a whole meeting after the show yesterday. I said I was gonna do something today. And you said you was gonna dress street wear, so you don't remember that. I do. That's just what I'm saying. We can't get on the same page.

You just wanna fight. You just wanna fight for no reason, man. We had a whole meeting about what we was gonna wear today. But your suit, I like that suit. It looks nice. Is it new? I don't know. You got so many, you know?

Has it been in your closet a long time? Probably, probably. Okay, I just was asking man. Listen, it's a nice suit, I like that man. Thank you. Right, right nice man. Dad, how you doing today, Steph? I'm great, I'm happy.

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But before the show's over, we'll make sure you guys out there get a couple of these helmets. But first and foremost, make sure y'all are subscribed. So if you're not, hit the subscribe button right down below. Okay, so we got a lot to talk about and we're gonna start with the sun. subscribe so if you're not hit the subscribe button right down below okay so we got a lot to talk about and we're gonna start with the Suns so coming into this season with the players that they have I don't think anyone expected the Suns to be the 11th seed right now so my question to you is who is not being held

accountable that's that's really the question you want to start with. Who is not being held accountable? Who's not being held accountable? On the sons, I mean, I think it's obvious. I think Bradley Bill is not being held accountable, but how can you hold him accountable? Realistically, he already said he got the no trade clause. So he's basically saying everybody can go but him. So this is this is really not good.

I don't like this because at the top of the year, I thought when they got Bradley Bill, was that this year or last year? Yeah, the top of the season when they got Bradley Bill, I automatically thought they would be a dominant team. I mean, other people said the same and to see where they're at now is just Bradley Bill, I automatically thought they would be a dominant team. I mean, other people said the same and to see where they're at now, it just doesn't make no sense. It makes no sense that they're playing like this.

And how can you hold somebody accountable that can't be moved, that can't be traded, that can't be all of the above? I don't like it at all. This is all of this really Paul suck for even book because before Katie and Bradley Bill got there, book was balling out of control. We was thinking that book was gonna be like that from the Mamba family, you know what I'm saying?

He's still doing pretty good, but I needed to be back books team. If I'm a GM, they, you know what I'm saying? He's still doing pretty good, but you know, I needed to be back Book's team. If I'm a GM, they gotta go back to Book. Y'all added all these pieces he didn't need. And I love KD, KD is still like my favorite player in the league. Yeah, you made a good point just now. Before KD got there, Bradley bill got there.

It seemed like book was about to be one of them nigger niggers. Like kind of the way we look at Anthony Edwards at the last year and a half, two years, uh, the way we may look at John Moran when John Moran's not injured or on the sidelines for anything else. It was looking like it was about to be Devin Booker's world and now it just looks like it's not his world. So, I don't know who should be held accountable.

That's a great question. I don't think it's about accountability. I think it's more about that they have no physical and vocal leader in the Phoenix Sun's locker room. All of them are great leaders. And I'm talking about for self individual play, I'm talking about somebody who could galvanize the team, say, look, you're not doing this.

You're not doing that. Yo, we need you to slide your feet on defense. Yo, you're missing out on assignments. You're not fighting through the screen. When the ball is coming up, pick them up at half court. You know, we see players on different teams, and you don't have to be the best player to have that job. To me, Draymond Green does that for Golden State,

but is he the best player on Golden State? No, he's not the best player on Golden State. But do you need a vocal leader? I think you do need a vocal leader. And as great as all three of those guys are, I'm talking about Bradley, Bill, KD, and Devin Booker, I don't see any of them being vocal leaders. I could be 100% wrong and be like,

Cam, shut up, I am leading in there. But you can see it on the court. Nobody's holding anybody accountable because me personally, I think they all have a high level of respect for each other. That they don't want to say it to each other. Exactly. This is where you need, not to cut you off, but this is where you need Chris Paul.

I don't know about that, but Mace is right to assert to say you need that type of, you need that type of annoyance. You need somebody to be like, yeah. You talk about accountability. No, no, the reason why, see, the thing about it with Chris Paul, cause you're right, you do need a Chris Paul type nigga. I just don't like using Chris Paul as an example

because his leadership never help him win. But he is one of them niggas, yo, come here, come get in the huddle. Hurry up, do this, do that. an example because his leadership never help him win. But he is one of them niggas, yo come here, come get in the huddle. Hurry up, do this, do that. You do need that type of person. But I don't think any of those players, KD, Devin Booker, or Bradley Beale,

are those type of people. And I don't mean it in a bad way. I think a person like Kevin Durant, and I'll say even though me and Kevin Durant are friends, I can't like Kevin Durant, and I can't, and I also even know me and Kevin Durant are friends, I can't speak for him, but if I'm guessing, I'm sitting there saying to myself that Kevin Durant is like, yo, I ain't gonna keep telling niggas what to do.

They should know what to do. Some niggas is like that, like, some niggas will be like, yo, ain't we all professional basketball players? Why the fuck I gotta be galvanizing the team and telling you, you need to do this or you need to do that, or you should be here, you should be there. Ain't you getting paid 219 million

to know what the fuck to do anyway? But sometime you need that orange court leadership or that locker room leadership. And to me, as great as all three of those guys are, I don't think nobody's going to hold anybody else accountable because either they're too cool or the amount of respect that they have for the other person.

We're thinking about Kevin Durant, right? We're thinking about, if I'm not mistaken, Devin Booker is at the Olympics as well, right? He's a two player that with instrumental parts of bringing home a gold medal this summer that just recently passed. And not just not just niggas who's on the bench, like they didn't give Jason Tatum that much run or whoever else book and Katie played. So for them not to even be making the playoffs is crazy.

Yeah. And both of them average and what about 26 points a game book is averaging 26 and seven So he's still balling, but it just doesn't feel like it on the odd test Like you normally says it is it doesn't die test and I pass an odd test Yeah, so I think another main problem here is that it comes across as very laxed Even if that's not what they wanted to be so I wanted to bring up the quote that you said about Bradley Beal. So he did say is the biggest thing is when he came here, he wanted to win. But then his statement, he ended it by saying, I still have the best job

in the world and I still have my no trade clause. So I'm smiling every day. So when you hear that, given their situation, how does that make you feel hearing that from one of their players? It's just, you know, like something you can say, um, you just shouldn't say it. You know, you know, you have this trade clause, the no trade clause, but that's not the thing to bring up because it's going to make everybody think you're the problem, you know, because when you talk about being lax, how much more lax can

you get than to publicly be stating, you know, I have a no trade clause. That's like walking in with your flip flops on the court. You know what I'm saying? Like they can't do nothing with me. And now I'm looking at what was happening with Bradley Bill. Like game wise, it doesn't look like he's balling like he was in DC. And I know he's around better talent,

but there's some people get around better talent and play even better. I think they're all people that need the ball. Pause and just with that, you need a perfect kind of coach to bring all of that kind of firepower together. Pause. Yeah. What was the exact quote set? Yeah, so you basically started out by saying,

my biggest thing is when I came here, I wanted to win. I had 30 points a game, went into like the winning culture that he wanted, but he ended it by saying, I still have the best job in the world and I still have my no trade clause, so I'm smiling every day. Yeah, I think Mase hit the nail on the head when he's saying some things you shouldn't say.

But I'm not, I don't know. Like I said, I have no idea what Bradley Bill's feeling, but that's one of them shits too, where you be like, yo, niggas try to really just send me the motherfucking. Utah. The sausage falls. S-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, s like, yo nigga, nah, fuck that. So I'm flaunting my no trade clothes on they face because I can't see him just saying that for no reason.

That sound like they tried to put him in a trick bag and basically say, you go ahead. And he like, oh y'all playing with me. I bet, and then after that, he probably ignored every other team they came to him to try to train him for like, nah, cause y'all playing games with me. So Bradley Beal, whoever your agent is,

oh man, you have to really, really thank him because, like Mase said, I wouldn't have said it neither because two things, when it's, well really one major thing, when it's deal, you're not playing that well. It may, and to me, I think you still a star if not a superstar, just you're not in the right situation. We seen your talent when you was with John Wall

and not just with John Wall. You got that big contract you got because John Wall was hurting, you was carrying the widgets. I still think you're a great talent. I just think it's not messing with this team. But what I will say is this, is that, I'm not sure where your car track is up and if you're young enough to get a really big, big car track.

But I'm pretty sure after this car track is up, that you're still young enough to get another couple year deal, that they will not put this in your new car track. They will not put the no trade clause in there because you're flaunting it around and being braggadocious about it. He might've messed it up for everybody.

He might be the end of the no trade. Yeah, unless you wanted to. The Bradley Bill rule. The Bradley Bill rule because you're flaunting the no trade clause in your face. From that statement that St Stat read to me, it was like, I still got the best job in the world and I still got my no trade clause.

You didn't have to throw that in there. You did not have to throw that part in there. How is it the best job in the world if you're losing in your 11th place? Yeah, cause the thing about it, murder. And don't get me wrong. And I'm not talking about Bradley Bill. Some people just realize

that a championship is not in the cards for him. And I'm not saying that he said that. So if you waking up in the morning murder and you want to play basketball and you make three hundred four hundred thousand000 a game, it might be the best job in the world. It might be all right. Look, I already see my future.

I ain't winning no championship. I make $125,000 a quarter. I got the best job in the world. Yeah, you right, you right. Yeah, so. Yeah, you can get a certain amount where you just like, man, this is better than hip hop. Yeah.

It's athlete, hell of a shit. Athlete definitely. You don't gotta see niggas, you just get money every day. Especially basketball players, and not just basketball players, baseball players too, cause their money is guaranteed playing or not playing football niggas, all your scratching and surviving,

trying to get on incentives on the part of the mind that's not guaranteed. These basketball players, it was a stat we read maybe two, three weeks ago about how much money Joe LMB made on the bench without playing. How can you beat this job? If you don't even want to, if you don't got a plate and you still getting no money?

I ain't mad at it, but like Meredith said, Meredith made a great point just now. They might start the motherfucking Bradley Bill rule. You start the Bradley Bill rule, no trade clause, cause it's only him and LeBron, the only two niggas with it. Yeah, they're only two niggas with it. And I didn't know that Eva Stapp made a great point that it's only been eight or nine niggas ever with it.

So. Yeah. So in that regard, he might've not needed it, you know? I mean, cause if LeBron had it, think of the people who had it. He's not one of them eight now that should have had that. So it's, like you said, his agent did an amazing job. Yeah, but Murda, his agent did an amazing job, but that's what it's about.

If my agent is better than your agent. Don't get mad at me. Don't get mad at me. I'm not gay. Yeah. Yeah. I have, literally. Charge it to the gang.

Think I've been out here killing this. Think about, let's just think about it. And like I said, I'm not trying to call Bradley Bill a scrub or nothing like that, but. No, he's definitely not a scrub. He's definitely one of the players. No, and I think he's a star still. I just think he's not in the right situation.

But let's just think about the names. We can sit there and say, the people who could get traded. First of all, we've seen Luke have just get traded. Yeah. Which was crazy. The Joker could get traded. Jason Tatum could get traded.

Shay Gilder's Alexander can get traded. Steph Curry could get traded. Steph Curry should be on a no-trade course. Yeah, exactly. So. LeBron, you know. LeBron is the only other person with it. Yeah, but all these people

Could be traded and Bradley bill can't so that's why Bradley bill probably out to smirk like he got the best job in the world It is probably an inside joke is one of those statements when you're sarcastic, you know, that's an inside joke He's talking to somebody when he say oh, I got the best job in the world. Yep, exactly Exactly. So yeah, so y'all made a couple points so yes to cams point there are only ten players in the NBA who have ever received a no trade clause and To and bead he's earned a hundred and twenty five point six million dollars while sitting on the bench for games that he's missed But back to the point of like the best job in the world like yes You're not winning but I would take that

or like even to be like a backup quarterback. You got Zach Wilson, who's a backup for Tula out in Miami, who's making $6 million a year to be in Miami and he don't even gotta touch the field unless it's needed. So all these guys are kind of chilling right now. You either have that championship mentality or you don't. Not saying Bradley Beal does not. Just saying, if you get a little comfortable,

that's kind of what happens. No, no, and to agree with you 100% stat, it's just that, and I'm not downplaying any type of money, what people make, I don't want to sound rude or facetious with what I'm about to say, but the NBA money is way more than the football money. Like, that shit don't even sound like a lot of money when you sitting here thinking about what these NBA niggas

are getting. Niggas like, this nigga's making six million and then they sleep. Nigga talking about Joe LMB made 124 million when he doesn't play. You know what I'm saying? So football players, you living in a low tax state in Florida, I'll say you get about,

it'll be a little bit over four million of that. And I get it, you're not touching the field, but you still gotta be a practice, you still gotta be there, you still gotta show up, so on and so forth. These basketball players and certain football players, I guess, who want their way. They take their own flights.

Jimmy Butler said, I'm not getting on the motherfucking Miami Heat plane. I'll meet y'all there. Niggas start taking his own flights, meeting niggas at the game and all type of shit. Niggas are figuring their way out. But six million, like I said, I'm not downplaying nobody's shit.

But that didn't even sound like a lot compared to what these NBA niggas are getting. But I guess if you're not playing, you're not playing. I'm not downplaying nobody's shit, but that didn't even sound like a lot compared to what these NBA niggas are getting. But I guess if you're not playing, you're not playing. Yeah, but even at that point, soccer players and baseball players are really chilling. They're like, and that's nothing in my sleep. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely soccer, baseball players. Depends what you're comparing things to. Listen to this list though. David Robinson, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowinski, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, D Wade, John Stockton, and Bradley Bill. You say one of these kids ain't supposed to be here. You say one of these kids ain't supposed to be here? I see the theme though. I do see a theme.

The people that have this no trade clause are players who is in markets that when you think of the market, you think of them. So they made their life there. Now, if he made his life there, let's think about it objectively. If he made his life there in Washington and he's like, the team is not playing well. I'm going to I'm going to actually be the marquee player here. And I'm going to give you guys my best. I don't want to wake up tomorrow and have to move my family.

I think that's understandable. So we discussed Bradley Beal, and even at this point, the organization has kind of made it clear, even though anybody is replaceable, that Devin Booker is staying. This is where we talk about KD, because he's been brought up in a lot of trade conversations. And we had this conversation about leadership.

People are questioning KD's leadership and his legacy at this point. So what do you say to those people who are starting to question that with his position on the Suns? That's that new hotness. You cannot question KD's legacy. Come on, man.

KD probably invented that term, a walking bucket. Anytime he gets the ball, it's a bucket. People can say what they want about, what they think about him personally, what he tweets on on X or Twitter. But when it comes to getting the ball, actually, and getting a basket, he's one of the best ever to do it. And I mean, with nobody excluded from the list.

So I think his legacy is cemented. I think who he is as a as a player as well, you know, amongst his peers is cemented, but it just he just getting a bad break. I would I know definitely he's out of there this summer. He definitely got to be out of there this summer. I don't see him nor Phoenix agreeing to bring them back next year. It just doesn't make sense. If I if I lost with Kevin Durant, Bradley, Bill and Booker,

there's no way I'm keeping that team another year. And exact question about his legacy. Yeah, so people have been questioning Katie's leadership, just his fit on the sun. So it's to the point where they're starting to question his legacy. What do you say to those who are starting to question all of that?

I mean, this question should every day be like, I don't, I don't really understand how you questioning a nigga like makes me a great point. I don't have too much to add on to it. What may say, Katie's a walking bucket, but I do like this. What Katie is this is that I see a more is what KD is this is that. I see a more relaxed KD. When I say relaxed, he smokes weed, he chills out, he still drop 30, 35 on you if need be, potentially 40. But I don't think he cares as much as he used to. And I'm not talking about winning.

I'm talking about what niggas say. You can tell by his responses to what people say to him. He don't give a fuck what you say. And I think that it's way more comfortable at the age he's at and the stages of his career to have fun playing basketball. Or when I say fun, not give a fuck about critics as much as he may have cared about five years ago.

Skip Bill is KD. Well, fuck it, we both watched it. Fuck, fuck, what you talking about? That's what he tells KD or Tuss, Skip Billish. Gary Payton, yo, what you talking about? You in the Hall of Fame here, then I'm in the fucking ceiling. And we talking about places in the Hall of Fame.

I think he's at a place where he like, well, one thing's for sure, two things for certain. My career is over tomorrow. I'm a two time finals MVP winner and not just a two times final winner. I'm a finals MVP, I'm a league MVP, I'm a scoring champion. His accolades go on and on and on.

Now one thing that always seems to elude some of these great players, whether it's Reggie Miller, whether it's Charles Barkley, whether it's John Stockton, whether it's Karl Malone, or whether it's Patrick Ewing is a championship. And KD has the championship. So you probably don't give a fuck what half these people are saying anyway.

And you could tell by his responses on X and how he responds to people on different interviews, et cetera. And his back and forth banter with certain people on sidelines. He's like, I did everything now. If more comes along, I'm down with it. Don't get me wrong.

I think he wants to win. But what hasn't Kevin Durant done in the NBA that people have done? Have he won six championships? No, who has? Has he won a plethora of MVPs? No, who has? It's a handful of people.

We got LeBron stuck at four league MVPs. We got Michael Jordan at five. Kobe Bryant has one league MVP for people who don't know that. Shaq has one league MVP. Charles Barkley has one league MVP. It's not a lot of people with a handful of league MVPs or scoring titles or NBA championships.

It's only a few and Kevin Durant made that list over and over again. So I don't know, people could say it's legacy this and legacy that. What hasn't he done? I'm trying to figure out That part and that's that okay. So now it's time to talk about the mix So Jalen Brunson has been sidelined since March 6 with the sprain right ankle is now expected for him to be out from late March to early April

Mace, do you think the mix can keep their momentum with a delayed Jalen Brunson return? Do I think the Knicks can continue their run without Jalen Brunson? Absolutely not. I think all of this is setting up just in my honest NBA opinion that KD might land in the Knicks. That's the only good thing I could see coming out of this. To your point, you're saying, do they do they do better? No, but they'll end up doing better if they get KD. I think it will be a better team.

And I think I think they're this their version of tanking. That's the new way to tank. Just somebody get hurt on the team. Well, act like they hurt. I'm not saying he's not hurt, but I'm saying. He's definitely not acting because that boy has been playing. Yeah, he's definitely not a guy that would do that. But I'm just saying that that's the best thing that come out of the Knicks right now.

Or that they get Zion. They always wanted Zion. Maybe they get Zion this summer. But they're not winning without no Jalen Brunson to answer your question. Can they win without Jalen Brunson? Absolutely not, because he's the heart and soul of the team. You know, if you take the the motor out of a car, the car doesn't run. And he's the motor of that team.

OK, Cam. The answer to the question exactly, could they sustain their lead in the East without Jalen Brunson? No. And I'm gonna have to say possibly. I was thinking no when I first seen this question, but actually they're four and two right now

without Jalen Brunson this season. You have about 15 games left. They have a five and a half game lead on Milwaukee. They have a, actually it's crazy. The Bucks, yeah, the Bucks Pistons and the Pacers are all tied for fourth place. And the Knicks actually have a five game lead, five and a half game lead on all three of those teams.

They beat Miami by 20 points. I don't know if it was yesterday, day before yesterday. They lost to Golden State by only three points in Golden State. I think that they'll be able to hold on. And when I say hold on, to make it without being in a plan. And that's a goal for the Knicks, especially like Mase say, I'm not going to disagree with Mase on that part.

Jalen Brunson is the heart and soul of this team. And if you think you're going to win anything without Jalen Brunson, you're bugging. But the question was, could they sustain their lead? And when I say sustain their lead, I don't know if they'll finish third, but I definitely think that they'll avoid being in the plan and avoid being in the plan without Jalen Brunson

for almost a month. I think that's a win in itself, because that's the main thing. Don't get the fuck in that plan. Anything can happen in that plan. You lose a game, you go home. You lose to you go home. So when you are J. Lamarronson, no, sustaining to not make it in the plan.

Absolutely. I think that they could do that. OK, so when you said sustain the league, you meant I just said in general, do you think they can keep their momentum? Yeah, said in general D that they can keep momentum. Yeah, I was thinking, will they stay in third place? That's when I said no. That's what I was saying no to. Will they make the playoffs? Yeah, they could still make the playoffs.

But I said definitely to the part of them not being in third place when it's all said and done. If he's not playing. You guys still have different kind of answers, though, because Cam saying it is possible and you he's not playing. You guys still have different kind of answers though because Cam's saying it is possible and you're saying no, it can't happen. Well, let's look at, what's the math on it? Yeah, absolutely.

Let's just do the math. What's 42 real quick plus 23? Off the top of that, that's five, that's what, 65 games? 65. 65 games. They have 15 games left, a. They have 15 games left. A little more than 15 games left and they have a five and a half game lead. Detroit is not on no one in streak.

Milwaukee, we know now no definitely in streak. These three teams just behind them are all streaky. I don't see Milwaukee going on a six or seven game one in streak. They just lost recently the other day to Shea and them coming in and they house of spanked them. Indiana up and down, Detroit, they be having a good season, but are they going to go on the six, seven, eight, nine game winning streak? Or the Knicks lose

five, six, seven games in a row? I don't know. But if I had to bet on it, I would say the Knicks would stay in third place just betting wise, but it's not a foregone conclusion. Mace could be right there as well, but five and a half game lead, 17 games left. You better hold the fuck over, nigga. So let me ask y'all this, just out of curiosity, let's just do a little quick prediction. So tonight they'll play the Spurs. Can you see them winning that game? Mace and Cam.

I'm about to pull it up. Yeah, without without Wimby. Yeah, they should win that game. Okay, Cam. All right, Grace. Okay, the Hornets. I don't know. It depends on what the mellow they give.

Mellow comes out smoking paws with 40 points, they might lose. They might lose. Who else you got? I don't see the Hornets beating them, neither. Okay, the Wizards. Yeah, you're right. They might run it.

Who? Wizards? Now you're changing your mind. You said actually. Yeah, I mean, if these are the teams they're playing, now. The Wizards just beat the Nuggets night before last. They actually just beat the Nuggets button. I'm picking the Knicks so far, but I'll be doing the stat

real quick, because I know you're ringing off name, ringing off teams. This is great that you asked. But for those that don't know a stat that people don't know, the Knicks have the fourth easiest schedule left in the in a regular season coming up. Yeah, that's what it's sounding like. I'm sharing my knowledge with you. So you notice now that you now you can make a different decision if you want to make a different decision. They have the fourth easiest schedule. So do you want to change your mind or do you want to stick to what you say? Not necessarily. Alright, no problem. That's what I'm asking if you feel like changing your mind. But you

can read some more names that after Charlotte, but I was just letting you know they have the fourth easiest schedule left in the NBA. Yeah. After that is the Mavs. Yeah, it gets really crazy after that. They're not gonna stay on this little easy road. They got LA, they got Milwaukee. Who does the Mavs have? The Mavs have, furthermore, you talk about the Mavs are forfeiting games, possibly.

Mavs might not even have eight to play against the Knicks. So I see them winning that game, too. They might think I could beat these niggas. It's true. Yeah, and then they're gonna lose LA, they're gonna lose the Milwaukee. Which LA you talking about? Oh yeah, that's the Clippers.

Yeah, next is the Clippers. Oh yeah, they might have the Good News Bears schedule. They're gonna be alright. I mean, and listen, don't get me wrong, they can all lose each game, but we talking about any team going every night. But we know that Jalen Brunson is the heart and soul

of this team, but we can't act like we don't, we like, it can be argued if you want to argue that Carl Anthony Towns is probably outside of Mowgli, probably the best center in the East right now. Who's a better center? You can say bare matter Bayou if you want, but Carl Anthony Towns definitely was the starter for the East Coast's center position this year. He's having a great year this year. He might be the best center. So I don't know Tibbs game plan, but they should dump the ball inside and let him go to work. He's not a scrub.

Yeah. Okay, but yeah, after seeing the schedule, it's like, dang, it kinda. Now the last six is, the last six to me is all else, but. But the point, the last six games of the season? Yeah, other than Brooklyn, yeah. But that's the point, Jaylen Brunson should be back the last six games of the season.

We just talking about, can they hold on while he not there? And from what they say, it's probably another week out, week and a half out. Okay. So let's get to actually get into some underdog picks. So like I said earlier, the Knicks will play the Spurs tonight, underdog has Michael Bridges at 26 and a half points, rebbound and assist.

Do you have him higher or lower? Man, man, man. He's been he's been like, I don't know this year. This was last year. I would have said higher this year. I'm going to have to go with. I'm going to give him my boss just just in good spirit. I don't I'm not have to go with. I'm gonna give him a higher pulse, just in good spirit. I don't, I'm not sure though.

Not Mackell. Listen, I'm gonna go higher because everything combined. And you have to step it up, Mackell Bridges. The Knicks got rid of a bunch of people for you thinking that you was gonna come in and do the shit that you was doing in Phoenix, Brooklyn, and now it's not meshing well. And I understand everything takes time.

Chemistry is not overnight. But listen, all this learning how to shoot at the beginning of the year and all this other shit, you're a professional athlete. You wouldn't have got there without knowing how to shoot and everything. Stop changing your game at 20 something years old. You got there for a reason.

And at this point in the season, the Knicks are going to really need you. So I'm going to go higher being that it's all three categories. Okay. Would you trade them back for Bradley bill? No. Well, Cal bridges, uh, Bradley bill, I think is good, but I don't think he would fit on the next. I think with Cal bridges was fitted nicely the nicks, but it's just not meshing as quickly

as people want it to mesh. People forget that he's not only just a good offensive player, he's also a defensive prowess. He's a good two-way player, and I think he got a wingspan of something like seven-two. So his arms are really lengthy on defense. He slides his feet.

He deflects passes. He's a really good defensive player. Just not translating. And then what Mase was saying, I understood what you were saying. The word that I would use that you probably didn't use that you might've made, he's streaky this year. He's up and down, up and down.

One game, you think, okay, this is Miguel. Miguel Bridges that we've been waiting to see. And then he disappears for three, four games. Playoffs are coming up. We need more consistency from him. OK, guys, at twenty five and a half points, do you have him higher or lower? Better get it. Better get it to win. I'm going to go higher.

Hi. Hi. And Chris Paul's at six and a half assists. Do you have him higher? Lower Mace. It's Chris Paul, man. We a half assists. Do you have him higher, Laura Mase? It's Chris Paul, man. We're going higher. All state. He ain't going to have 50 points, so he better have six assists. OK, he's retiring this year. I think they say he's retiring after this season.

Yeah, he had a great career. Chris Paul had a really, really, really great career. And I'm pretty sure whenever he does retire, even if it this year, he gonna make an outstanding coach. What I wanna play for him, hell no. But I'm pretty sure he'll be in somebody's, if not coach, if not as a coach, somebody's front office. So he's a great basketball mind.

I don't know if he should retire just yet. I haven't seen a lot of him this year, but if he does retire, man, illustrious career, we'll give him his flowers when it's time, not today. Okay. Make sure y'all download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. Is Tibbs tiring out his starters?

We'll discuss after the break. Welcome back. So we got more Nick's talk last week. They had a lot of miscommunication between coach Tibbs and Mikael Bridges regarding long minutes for starters. So Mikael had said sometimes it's not fun on the body. You'll want that as a coach, but also talk to him a little bit knowing that we've got a good enough team where our bench guys can come in and we don't need to play 48 minutes, 47 minutes.

Tibbs actually denied the conversation ever took place. So since then, they said that they hashed things out and talked about it privately. But before we even just get into the specific minutes and like looking at how much their starters are actually playing, what do you think about that conversation kind of being exposed to the public from the CalBridges?

I think when it comes to like discrepancies amongst a team, those things are common. It's just a matter of when they become public to us as as fans. And then people try to clean it up because of the way they want to be perceived. But I could see this as being an issue with Tom Tibideaux as well as Mikel on both of their side, because on one side, he's like, you know, we want to be great in the playoffs. And that's probably Mikel's outlook that if we get more rest, we'll be we'll be ready when the time comes. He's like, no, if you are ready now, you're definitely will be ready later.

And it's just two different philosophies. And one of those philosophies got to go. That's what that is. That will be my ultimate take. Can have two, two, um, two mindsets going in opposite directions and achieve great things together. That it just doesn't work like that. Everybody knows, says runs his players into the motherfucking ground.

It's what he do. Every team he coaches, he runs his players into the motherfucking ground. It's what he do. Every team he coaches, he runs his players into the ground and hopefully for the Knicks, this won't translate to be something bad when the playoffs start. If you sat there and watched the Knicks last year, you seen bodies dropping, like John Wick was on the court. Knicks was just falling, man.

Every game, all the way down to the last game, even Jalen Brunson got hurt at the last game before the Knicks got eliminated. Tibbs runs his players down. He plays them a match. Now, the reason why I don't feel bad is because I'm used to niggas playing 82 games, 47 minutes a game.

Some niggas never used to come out, but with these fragile motherfuckers out here, you can't run these niggas into the ground like out, but with these fragile motherfuckers out here, you can't run these niggas into the ground like you used to be able to run players into the ground. They're gonna start complaining, too many minutes, et cetera. The same scenario that the topic is right now. Too many minutes.

And for some reason, I don't know if it's the gluten, the wagyu, whatever new food or shit is going on, these niggas can't play 82 games, 48 minutes. It just don't happen no more. And you actually see them falling apart. So I understand where McHale coming, McHale Bridges is coming from in this generation, I should say.

But Tibbs is like, with all, from Tibbs' point of view, and to Tibbs' defense, because it isn't just McElbridge, as I'm talking about sports analysts around the country, Tibbs is always playing players. Tibbs is doing this too much. You've run them into the ground, understand, though? If people are dieting and taking care of their body

and have more medicine and more exercise and more ways to keep their body in shape longer then why they can't play longer. I don't get that. I really am the medicine, the workout, the everything else but you still can't play longer than a nigga who played in 1989 and didn't have all the technology and medicine and trainers and et cetera,

technology that you got, I don't get it. But for some reason, Tiv's players don't always last throughout the playoffs, cause you run them into the ground. I told Sin Sin, it's cause he's a Knick fan. I said, y'all ain't gonna last through the playoffs. I said, y'all not because y'all don't have a bench. The Knicks bench is terrible. They have no other players that they come off the playoffs. I say y'all not because y'all don't have a bench. The Knicks bench is terrible. They have no other players that they come off the bench. That's really good. And it's

going to show throughout the playoffs because the Knicks going to get tired. Okay. So to that point, so Josh Hart and Mikael Bridges are tied for the most minutes per game out of everyone in the league at 37.8 minutes per game. So to your point, do you think Tib is demanding too much from his starters or you kind of just feel like that's what's supposed to happen when you play in the game? From my point, I'm not mad at it. It's funny for me because I'm at a catch 22 with it. You know what a catch 22 is that?

Like you like kind of like ultimatum, right? You got to choose one or the other, right? Oh my. It's not what that would be like. No. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, right? Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah.

I'm not, I try to explain things y'all like. Your first explanation was not correct though. The whole thing is even if you don't know, it's fine, you don't know, if you don't know you can't learn. So it's like n***a coming up to me and putting on this wall right now, XI, XI, X, X, V, 7M. And tell me, for me to be like, what number is that? I don't know all that number numeral. I know tennis acts.

You don't learn it, how you supposed to know it? You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that. I can't take them shits to the bank. I can't cash in a Roman numeral check. A lot of shit educational wise for me, if it didn't make sense in life, I didn't really want to know about it.

Thought I'd just ask you that. Oh, that's a good question. Sometimes things mean different things. So I'll be having to make sure, you know? No, you're right. Listen, there's there, there, and there. Or like that's green, because that's like a Florida thing. Yeah.

Yeah. You know you're there or something? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There, there, I possess it, and over there. Do y'all know that's green? Yeah, when you call somebody green? Yeah, no, not call somebody green, that's green.

No, what is it? Like that's fucked up. I didn't know. That's green. I know calling somebody green. I got something, y'all! You made that shit up yesterday. You made that up. No, I got something, y'all. You made that shit up yesterday. Yeah, you made that up.

I got something. I did not make it up. Nobody ever said that's green. In the comments down below, especially East Coast, the South, specifically Jacksonville, y'all already know what that screen means. Now you're calling Jacksonville. Because we're here to learn. We're here to learn. No, no, listen. Oh, my goodness. The whole thing is, and that's that's why, because we're here to learn. We're here to learn. No, no, listen. Oh my goodness.

The whole thing is, the whole thing is, and that's why I be telling people about slaying around the country, and it's good to know different things. Because why would green ever be fucked up when green is the money? Green is the go sign when you get the light. Yeah.

Green means everything, a go. Yeah, it's messed up as money. Yeah, like green. That's how it sounds. You already think green light on that. Yo, let's go get some greens. Like green, I mean, I'm not knocking it, but I like to learn too, but why would green be bad?

Green has always been good in America. My bad. I can't really explain to you why the words, your logic makes sense though. A lot of things don't make sense to me. And you said it came from Jacksonville? Yeah, like that's great. I'm gonna check it out, Stat.

Go ahead. I got people. Go ahead. All right. That's great. I got a two part answer to this question and just so I'm clear on the question, because I know we started talking about it,

so I was just reading it one more time for me so I know exactly, our audience knows exactly the question that I'm answering. Yeah, so Josh Hart and McHale Bridges, they're tied for most minutes per game, 37.8 minutes. In your point, do you think he's demanding too much from his starters or you think that's fine? And so I just want the audience to hear again.

That's why I said I'm gonna catch 22. For a person like me, used to play, and like I said, I never made it to a professional level. I never played 82 games a year for a living, et cetera. I don't think it's too much, especially for the money that niggas is getting paid. Niggas was getting paid 10% of what niggas is making right now, playing all the games. Karl Malone had missed, played 18 seasons

and missed six games. His last two years he got hurt, so he missed a bunch of games. But his first 18 seasons, think about this y'all, 18 seasons straight and missed six games. Niggas misses six games next week. In one week, my nigga. So for me, it's not asking a lot.

But am I dumb? Am I blind? Can I not see a hair? No, absolutely, I can see a hair. And I see these players getting worn out towards the end of the year playing all these games. For some reason, they can't sit there and play an 82 games schedule,

even with the load management. It's a problem. So to me, Cameron, as he acts in too much from his players, I would say no as a personal fan who watched basketball for the last 35 years, 40 years maybe. As a person who's analyzing what's going on in today's climate, yes, he is asking a lot from Miss Players.

You got two players from your team, and don't get me wrong, they're not the star players, they're role players, but two niggas from the same team averaged the most minutes in the whole NBA. It ain't like one nigga from the Knicks done another nigga from the Suns and another nigga from Detroit. Two of the players averaged the most, yeah,

for this generation, I think it is a lot. Me personally as a fan, no. Well, I'm gonna second that motion because I think it's really asinine that Josh Hart is even saying that it's too many minutes because when he was on the Lakers, his biggest cry was that he wanted the minutes, right? So now-

To be fair, Josh Hart never said that he was getting it was really. I'm just making sure because these same players when they're in another system and they're not getting the minutes now, they're like, oh, I wish I could play more. So that's that's my first reason why it's not too much. And then a second reason, I think if you don't score over 30 points, you're not a person that score in the 28 and 27. You shouldn't be complaining about minutes like you don't need to rest. You need to play all these minutes.

Somebody who's going to who's going to get rest, that's going to come to the next game and get 40 points or really make that difference. Those are the type of players that need rest. Like you see LeBron saying he's resting to the playoffs or and he doesn't even do that. You know what I'm saying? So why do y'all need rest? And somebody is out there 40 years old getting 40. Why do you need rest?

That would be my question. If you got a 40 year old guy getting 40, you're 26, 27. You need rest. That's what Tibbadoe is thinking. What do you think about that, Stat? I mean, when you put it like that, it makes a lot of sense, but it's like, dang, just because I'm younger, that doesn't mean I can't get tired. Like I'm going to still put in the work and do what I need to do, but I can't

take, I can't have a second. Yeah. They're paying you for 48 minutes, really, exactly. I mean, you could, you could get rest, but you're getting paid. Whatever you're getting paid for, I need you to do your job. That's just how I think. I grew up in a blue collar family. You got paid for the work. We need you to do the work.

Rich is from the Coleslaw on their rice. Yeah. That did not turn out well. That was explained. That was explained. Richardson from the Colts won their race. Yeah, that didn't that did not turn out. That was a good. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying. These these players are not like that to be needing rest like that for real. That's just the way I think.

Like Kevin Durant need rest. You don't need no rest. Luke guy is not getting rest. So who else? The Joker is not taking rest. It's like the people who are really like that are not looking for the rest. And the people who are not like that are asking for the rest. You don't see the consistency here.

So to give you a little bit more context, too. So after McElbray's and Josh Hart, then it's Tyrese Maxey, then Devin Booker, then Katie, then OG, then Jason Tatum. So those are the players right under minutes wise. In the minutes? Yeah. Yeah, that's where you need to be. You're trying to win, right? You can't bring that attitude that you brought from Phoenix over here to New York. And that's that's another thing that he got to he got to really navigate from,

because when you're in you're in Scottsdale or you're getting you're getting marijuana from from Phoenix, is the weather is good. You eat all of the food you want. The everything is so laid back. You get to the Brooklyn. Everything's turned up. And now you're in the Mecca of basketball. We do not want to hear that. You got you got Tracy Morgan throwing up on the sideline.

Man, they need you to win like right now, man. We don't have time for next year. That's what we think. And why means next year. So you come in and next year talking about you need rest. You see what this is triggering to me, you know. Every time I saw the next play was always next year. So then you get some guy coming from Phoenix.

Now he's here and now he's contributing to that same mindset. I can only imagine the stress that, you know, Sin City is going through looking at this. They don't even want to play for you, Sin City. I hope you're watching this. But OK, so also on the opposite end, what do you say if it's like if he's hinting that they need rest, when do we kind of listen and give them that rest

while they are five games above the four seed? You know what I'm saying? When do we be like, okay, we're getting a little bit of time right now to get right. And then when it's go time, it's still go time. Do you get what I'm saying? They got a really lax schedule. What do you say to those? I'm going to tell you something they used to tell us.

This is a good story. I remember I went to the guy that was doing the ministerial training. I said, man, I want to just give up. I was thinking I'll give up this day and I'll be more rested on that day. He said, you want to give up some? Give up cigarettes. Give up weed. And that's what I would say to the team.

If you want to give up some, give up the partying so you can be a better basketball player. Don't be over here trying to give up sports. This is what we're paying you for. Maybe I'm just on the other. I just feel like that sounds extreme. Like, I just feel like, just give me, like, I've been committed the past games. I've been working my tail off, okay? I'm doing what I need to do.

We're at the third seed. We're still in a good position. Yes, Jalen Brunson's out and I will do what I need to do to progress forward. But while we have a lax schedule, let the bench players go in a little bit more, let me get my rest so then when it's go time, I can over perform. If I'm telling you I'm tired, how many times do I gotta keep telling you I'm tired?

Does that not make sense? No. No. No. You know why? Okay. You know why? Because when niggas came to you with 200 million and that paperwork or that pen to sign it,

you didn't say, hold up, before we do this deal, if we in third place and we got a little lack schedule, you think I could get a couple more minutes off the time playing time or a day or two off because we gonna be up anyway. Matter of fact, put that in my deal. If we up 11 games, I should be able to get some rest. I should be able to chill.

We up 11 games. No, you didn't say that when you signed the contract. You know what? The Knicks is up five and a half games in third place from the fourth, fifth, and sixth seed, right? OKC is up 11 games in the West. You know who's not missing games? SGA.

There you go. They up 11 games. And they not missing those games and they not talking about, yo, you know we about to win the Leicester conference. You know we about to win the Western conference. You know I'm about to get the MVP's a lot. Yo, Sam Preston, you mind if I get a couple days off? Because we all win anyway, let me just get a couple days off.

Sounds stupid to me. I get what you're saying, Seth, but it just doesn't make sense. When you're getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars or tens of millions of dollars, and you're talking about, we got a little stretch, let me get a couple days off, because we in third place and we up five.

Not only that, the star of the team is hurt. You wanna take games off when the number one nigger, you know what, let's all take off because Jalen Brunson is hurt too. So we might as well just all just take off at one time and then come back together as a team stronger with our mindset more focused and therefore we'll have more energy.

Why would you even wanna take off when Jalen Brunson hurt? This is the time for nobody to take off while he's hurt and maybe when he comes back, if you're not 100%, you can take a game or two off. They have no bench, no bench, literally no bench. I don't even count campaign. They have zero bench. So I don't think this is the right time to be taken off

when you're in third place, five game lead, and you got a nigga who's killing the whole NBA with 11 game lead, and he's not taking off. Yeah, that's it. That goes to the winning culture that we're basically speaking from. And a winning culture, you carry yourself differently than in an average culture or a subpar culture. And that's what we're speaking from.

When we hear what's going on here, that will be OK in a system that you don't plan on winning in the playoffs. But as you start going towards the playoffs, that's not the time to draw back. That's the time to really get ready to go on to a new level. And when you think of a team that introduced that whole concept of low management, they had Tim Duncan, they had all these other players. So they could do that. The Knicks is not, they don't have a Tim Duncan. They don't have a Janobly, they don't have a Tim Duncan.

They don't have a Janobli. They don't have these things. So you see- Sony Parker, Bruce Bowen, the Wild Lenin. You see people trying to mimic that system, and that's why it's going bad for them because those people were foreigners.

They were people that understood, as soon as I get back, it's business as usual. I don't think Americans are able to turn it on and turn it off like that, that fast. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just like to ask those questions to get different perspectives.

No, it's a good question. I also agree with y'all because I think that's what separates good from great. Like when you wanna be the best, there quite literally are no days off. You're doing things on the weekends, you're doing things on the weekdays, you're doing things at odd hours because you want to be the best version of literally are no days off. You're doing things on the weekends, you're doing things on the weekdays, you're doing things at odd hours

because you want to be the best version of yourself that you could be. So I get it, but I know the other side, but it's like, but if he's tired, why not? So I think you guys gave a great explanation for that. You schedule your rest, you schedule your rest. If he's tired, yo, how you tired and this what you chose to do for a living?

This is not a surprise. This isn't like, look, I can't speak for Josh or Macalbridges, but nine out of 10 times when you're a professional athlete, you've been doing this since you were seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 years old. This is not overnight. This ain't, Lamar Roach.

Lamar Roach was in here yesterday with us, talking about when he fought Tank the first time they was nine years old. These niggas ain't fighting at the highest level because they just seen each other in the street and was like, yo, what you doing Saturday? Bitch ass nigga. Nah, these niggas, a whole commitment

that these professional athletes been doing since they was single digits or at least 10, 11 years old. It is not a nigga in the league. If it is, I bet you it's not more than 10 people in the league who can't sit there and say, out of 480 players who can sit there and say, they didn't play basketball in high school, or 15, 16 years old.

It's not a nigga who's a blossom or like, nah, I ain't start playing ball until I was 23. You knew this when you was 11, which your job was gonna be. This was gonna be your job, and this what you want to do. So why is it a shock? They ain't changed the minutes, it's 48 minutes. They didn't change the games a year.

They didn't add more games. Yeah, it's still the same shit from when you was a child. And to be honest with you, it's less brutal. You can't even get beat up no more. Yeah. They be used to beat the shit out you. No hand checking. No hand checking.

They be coming to the league, a little swipe flavor foul, you get kicked out the game. I can't, I don't get it. Yeah, yeah. Jordan's played 18 rounds of golf in those back in the day. When you get in there, it's going to play that night. Where she's really speaking to is their mental fatigue. It's just the makeup of the players.

Realistically, that's what I have to learn when I'm talking about these things is that you're dealing with a different temperament. And that's what it is. I'm not laughing at the conversation. It's just like the every is like, oh, this new generation doesn't know nothing. You don't have to work for nothing. You know, it's the temperament is actually a temperament. They got a good video on YouTube. If you see it, it's a guy who's walking through the door.

Yeah, Marta, my bad. He hits the door slightly, and then he just, you know, then he goes, ah! And it's like 1970s, there, 80s, then 90s. I seen that. Then by the time I get to the 220s, he hit the door and he fall on the floor. Let me ask you this, Stet.

You feel like coming to work next week, He hit the door and he fall on the floor. Let me ask you this, Stet. Okay. You feel like coming to work next week? Like, nah, I've been killing it for the last year or so, man. Fuck I'm coming in, I'm tired. Nah. Yeah, cause you wanna get paid. I don't think like that, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Not just gonna get paid, you enjoy what you're doing,

but what do it look like telling us, or anybody that you work with or work for? What do it look like telling us, anybody that you work with or work for, yeah, I've been doing my thing, man. You ain't using the signal. I've been doing what I had to do, man, the last year and a half. I think, look, the ratings is up, the views is good.

I'ma just take off for a little week for the playoff start. You know, it's only a month left. Y'all can find somebody else to do this job and then when the playoff start, I'll be back. How that sound? Telling somebody, all right. That's what I'm trying to tell you. And I don't even think like, even when I'm sick,

I wanna come up here to the point where they're like, you need to go lay down. And I'm like, okay, fine. But that's, but see, that's what it sounds like to Tibido. Yeah, exactly. We made this opportunity for you. We traded our franchise. People that could have had us winning

at a much higher rate this year. And now you're here and saying, you're tired. Just think of that. Too many minutes. We got a guy right now in Minnesota that if we had him here right now, this would be a different New York team. You're tired. Okay. And then just to end off on this note, so he was obviously when that exchange happened,

they did give away five first round draft picks for him. So just going to leave that there. Food for thought. If you know, you know. So five first round picks? Yes. And you tie it? See that's the emotions that go through an owner's mind when, when he hears this.

Like, you know what we gave up for you to be here and you're saying you're tired. You're making me second guess everything I just put in motion. And then just to be completely clear, he didn't explicitly say he was tired. He just said, you know, playing all those minutes, some people from the bench can go in too. I just want to make that clear. You want to give your minutes up down to the bench players? Like, I've never said that. Give them your check. That's what I'm saying. Give them your check. Don't give them your minutes. Say, you know what? How about y'all give a thousand,

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