IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE KNICKS MIGHT BE MOVING TO TITLETOWN!
Episode Date: May 8, 2025Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, Stat Baby is poppin' out with the KNICKS jersey!! Knicks take a 2-0 lead over the Celtics after winning BOTH... games in Boston and are headed to The Garden (Real Garden) for game 3, are these Knicks different from other teams?? Then, we react to the NBA Anonymous poll that came out about the most overrated players in the league and the Steelers traded away George Pickens to the Cowboys and Stat is NOT happy! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content. Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello y'all, uh
I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back
But no confusion, this a reunion
Hello y'all, welcome back
Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money
He said, can't man the hell we're at
I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Black fences and white vigas
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I'm Treasurer Wilson aka Stat Baby along with your hosts Mace and Cam.
Killer was good man.
Was good man, how you?
Good man. I don't know what, how you? Good, man.
I don't know what to do with these Knicks, man.
What you mean?
What you trying to say?
They talking too much, right?
They're gonna hang you up.
Yeah, oh, nah, you already know.
Niggas and me, like I'm from Boston.
Yeah.
I don't know, niggas going crazy, man.
They really are, man, but congratulations so far.
For sure.
I just wanted to say that we're back, you know?
Like it's really crazy that the Knicks
have really been doing their thing to an oh, you know.
I was in Tidal Town summer school,
so I learned it from you, man.
I learned it from you, mate! I learned it from you! Uh...
Uh...
Yo!
That looks horrible!
I think it looks great.
Sin would say it looks great.
He would say, oh, you can't see, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Just gotta make sure y'all can...
Oh, yeah, you see that? Oh, you see that?
Who's number 25?
Oh, this is uh,
You don't even know.
That's Derek Rose number, but yeah.
You know I know some, you know,
those little collectors.
Nick got on an Orangene blue diplomat shirt on it.
I didn't even, I didn't even know.
Oh, Nick is going crazy.
I didn't even know we made those colors.
Nick is going crazy.
I didn't even know that we had that in stock.
I have no idea.
Nick might have got that personally made from the factory
because I don't even remember looking at inventory
and we having that in stock to be honest with you, man.
Nick is wild, man.
Wow, man.
This is crazy.
Isn't it crazy?
That's that guy gold front sitting on type of shit.
You know, I went to New York
and got you acting a little different.
You gotta get fly. You feel me, right? That guy, like she'sitting on type of shit. You know, I went to New York and got you acting a little different. You gotta get fly.
You feel me?
Like, she's straight out of Brownsville
with the gold front-swing
and the New York knick-jaws is crazy, man.
Okay.
Wow.
Hey, I learned it from Ace.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You ain't learned that from me.
I'ma keep it. Honey, niggas gotta get the vaccination.
I'm vaccinated when it comes to this.
You might be next.
I can't catch that shit y'all got.
I took that vaccine at two.
Okay so let's get started.
I can't catch the bandwagon vibes.
I can't catch it.
The switch up vaccine.
That's crazy that I have that on standby as well.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And it's crazy, no, it's crazy that this was already in my closet.
Like, it's not like I went to go like, and it was already in my closet.
That's what's even crazier.
Now it was already in the closet.
It's crazy.
All right.
Okay, so the Knicks beat the Celtics 91-90. The Knicks are 2- already in the closet. It's crazy. OK, so the Knicks beat the Celtics 91 to 90.
The Knicks are 2 and 0 in the series.
No team in playoff history has ever came back from down 20
in consecutive games to win.
Mase, how do you feel about the Knicks?
How do you feel about that stat and all around it?
Let me let me see.
I'm going to stay consistent on it.
So you don't say I switched up.
It's still two games, you know, as much as I want to give them a lot of props
and I can't get them a lot of props because each game, like you said,
they came back 20 points.
But I think the changes that they made on this team
was the changes they needed to make to beat the Boston Celtics.
They added Mikel, which give them a lot of wing defensive play.
And actually, you know, somebody that could score from the wings
that could take some of the pressure off of Jalen Brunson.
But then you got Kat and that answers the whole poor Zynga thing.
So now you got two two weapons that they did not have last year.
So this team is a team that we definitely expect to perform well.
This is a team that we definitely expect to be there.
But I think the thing that we're really wanting to see is can they get game three?
The game three is the game that really matters.
So when people like they they up to and they start hitting me up,
I said, remember, I told you this.
I told you that even if they get 2-0,
I'm still not convinced.
If they get 3-0, that's when I might wear my orange,
I might bring out my orange cowboy hat, pause.
But until then, I'm not even ready to do what Stad did.
I think that was premature.
She didn't learn that from me.
When I switch teams, it's time to switch.
You know?
I don't do it when...
It's time to switch.
Time to switch is crazy.
And another thing I want to say is this is why you don't anoint people early.
Remember I said this about Boston.
Oh, you're not seeing that title town. This is what Killer telling me.
They got a championship.
I say, yo, but the Knicks, I know what I knew.
I know what I knew.
You know what I'm saying?
I knew what I know.
Your whole statement is a contradiction.
Like, yo, the whole thing you just said,
you're not hype about the Knicks,
but you're not annoyed in Boston.
Pick a side, bro. This is what I'm saying. One minute, you don't about the Knicks, but you're not annoyed in Boston. Pick a side, bro.
This is what I'm saying.
One minute, you don't trust the Knicks.
Now you're saying this is why I didn't annoy you, Boston.
So what are you doing? Is it Boston or is it the Knicks?
No, both of them are still too early.
It's too, too always early.
And one championship is not enough to be considered a resident of Title Town.
You know, they could look at houses,
but they're not from here.
And that's all I'm saying.
This tells me it, Cam, you can say what you want.
I'm not listening to it today.
It's too early for it.
I don't mind you not listening, Mase.
Everybody sees you every day.
It's too early.
It's too early.
It's too early. If they only got one championship and then they come back and get swept.
This is what I've never done.
So so Kevin.
So let me just I just want to record.
I'm actually so poor.
Pearson, Kevin Garnett is not titled.
No, they're not. I like those guys.
I'm just saying. So they're not.
Yeah, yeah. That's why I see.
That's why I was actually.
Yeah, I'm those guys. I'm just saying, so they not tired of you. Yeah, yeah. That's why. I see what you're doing. That's why I was asking.
Yeah, I went to media training.
I'm just asking.
I'm just asking.
He's trying to put me against you, Paul Pierce.
I'm not trying to put, you're trying to put me
against you, Kevin.
You're not in title town.
Why you don't put you in title town?
I'm just saying what you said, be consistent.
I'm just letting for you young guys out there
and you in hip hop, what Cam just did
is what they always do to you.
They gonna ask you about somebody that they know
is gonna have a vibrant and viral conversation back
against what you just said.
So he said so.
Yeah, Kevin Garnett is gonna hear this
and he's gonna have something to say about it.
I'm telling you that right now.
If you think Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce is not going,
they not Jason Tatum, J. LeMans.
If you think them two niggas is not gonna have something
to say about what you just said,
you out your mind, I can't wait to watch they shit.
They podcast, after hear them, and they show this clip.
They gonna go off too.
I love KG though.
KG gonna go the fuck off.
Paul Pierce, but you know, one don't make you Titletown.
They know what I'm talking about.
They absolutely won't know what you talking about.
I act especially Kevin Gardner.
They gonna say, who is Mase?
Like Mase, what does Mase do?
Like.
Yeah, they gonna go off.
Kevin Gardner's gonna go off.
Saying he can't go to, she's not Titletown.
It's crazy.
He got one of the most famous Hold the Trope.
Anything's possible, when he won.
All the confetti coming down for us.
Listen, man, that's your stance.
I can't go against your stance.
KG, Paul Pierce.
KG, Paul Pierce.
You're in my title town.
According to Mace.
My team.
My team.
Ray Ray is in my title town.
D Wade is in my title town.
Kobe Bryant is in my title town. Michael Jordan is in my title town. D-Wade is in my title town. Kobe Bryant is in my title town.
Michael Jordan is in my title town.
Even LeBron, you know,
he's in the title town, you know.
Who else?
Who?
Chris Bosh is,
yeah, Chris Bosh is in title town.
He got two. Shaq.
You know, people like that.
I'm just, I know Kevin Garnett personally.
I just know what he's going to say.
I love Kevin Garnett but I got to stick with the criteria.
The HOA of Title Town.
I have nothing to say.
I haven't played professional basketball or football but I know what I watch and I know
who won titles and who didn't.
Macy's criteria is man winning more than one
You're my title town, but when y'all go off
Tim Duncan is in title town. Tony Parker is in title town. When y'all go off Kevin Garnett, this is not my take
This is not my take. I can't I actually can't wait for y'all to say what y'all have to say
Kim shut me up. If y'all want to take that bait, pause.
Go ahead and take it.
It's not a bait.
It's not a bait.
You say, I've only got one title.
Yeah, I don't respect that.
It's luck.
Anybody could do it once.
Anybody could do it once.
Charles Bargley didn't do it once.
Patrick Gurney didn't do it once.
Not anybody, but you know, some people could do it once.
You could get lucky.
Reggie Miller, John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, and a lot of people didn't even do it once, you could get lucky. Reggie Miller, John Stockton, Jeff Harnesseck,
now a lot of people didn't even do it once, so.
I get it.
I get it.
I just have nothing to do with this Kevin Garnett.
I just know Kevin Garnett personally.
Paul Pierce, Paul Pierce is like,
when Kevin Garnett gonna stand up, he gonna go off,
start knocking shit over.
Murder don't know what we went through, nigga.
All that, I'm telling you.
All that's coming with it for us.
The sickness doc, doc went through a divorce that year.
All that's coming with it for us, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
So that's fine with me.
But you finished?
Yeah, I'm standing on what I'm saying.
I'm the president, you know?
They can get mad, they can't overrule what I said,
I'm the president.
According to you, that's what they're gonna tell you.
According to you.
According to you.
But look, as far as the game is concerned,
as far as the series is,
we'll get to the series in a minute,
but I thought I saw Latrell Spreewell out there
with the Ding Jersey, the way Boston was choking.
Pause.
Them niggas was fucking choking for two days in a row.
I mean probably two games in a row.
I've never seen niggas get more scared as the game gets closer.
As the game do, damn you up 20.
First of all I say this, before I let me get to this.
When Pauz Zingas, I don't know what illness he has or what sickness he has,
but you obviously see he's sick so I commend him for coming out there and even trying to play.
But when he comes off the floor two games in a row, they're up 20.
They're up 20.
Sickness, no sickness, whatever the case may be.
They're up 20 points when he's out.
No excuse.
You're out, you're out.
That's just it is what it is.
I sit there, they're up 20 points in the third quarter, Boston.
And then you see a repeat.
It looked exactly like the other night.
I said, then I just see this shit two, three nights ago.
What the fuck happened?
I'm checking the DVR, making sure
I'm not watching the same fucking game.
They're up again, I think 12 at the beginning of 12, 11
at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
Excuse me
Mikael Bridges has no points in the whole game goes on a 14 point
Scoring spree in the fourth quarter to the point where they have to bring
Jalen Brunson in back with six minutes and some change left in the game even when Jalen Brunson came back in the game
He was giving the ball to McHale Bridges.
Go, nigga. He check, nigga, you're on fire.
That's what you're supposed to do.
Whether you're Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, no matter.
If a nigga on your team is on fire, you're supposed to give him the rock.
As he started to cool off, Jalen Brunson stepped up.
You go from 12, then you go to 10, then you start seeing it down to 7.
You're like, is this shit happening again?
Then they're down 5.
And you're like, nah, this shit ain't happening again.
And it happened again.
They keep shooting threes.
Yo, what is wrong with y'all niggas?
Yo, bro, y'all have set the record to Boston Celtics
for the most three-pointers missed in a two-game span ever.
Ever. Celtics for the most three-pointers miss in a two-game span ever ever
Y'all off y'all miss 43 pointers last night
40 you miss 40 just miss 95 threes and two games
Nah
Niggas a miss 95 threes in two games. Al Hoffman. Why is Al Hoffman 0 for 5?
Enough's enough. You all see and this is not working. I get it. I get it, but I don't get it.
When I say I get it, it means like, nah, we ain't gonna shoot this bad again.
Yes, the fuck y'all did. Y'all shot that bad again, man. With bad bad judgment.
Y'all judgment was bad. Missoula?
You better get this shit under control.
I'm blaming you as a coach too.
I don't care if they open for three.
I don't care if it's the right shot.
I'm looking on fast break opportunities.
And this is where me and Mase was talking about,
or I would rather say something about the Mase
probably about three, four months ago.
So when you're on a fast break,
and the wingman kind of like the three-man weave,
I don't even know if they practice the three-man weave anymore, and they cut to the basket.
You see a three-on-one or a three-on-two, everybody's spreading to the three-point line,
nobody's going to the basket. So you got three or two, they divert to you, the defense,
and you pitch it out for three, which is a good shot. Most of the time if you can make them, but no, nobody cuts to the basket.
Nobody.
You got a three on one and the wingmen are going to the motherfucking three point line.
It's not working in the postseason Boston.
It is not working for y'all.
Y'all niggas miss 95 threes in two games and it's not working for you. Y'all look like a bunch of pretty boys
that look nice and like yeah we shoot threes. You know them niggas? I used to love playing against
them niggas. Poor niggas who wear the knee pads and come with the wristbands and all the basketball
things have their socks put correctly and tidy sneakers a certain way and they have they got every basketball material
that you need out and two fingers all that shit all the shit you need and I'd be like
I can't wait to bust your ass because I just take my I just took my jeans off pause and
I got my shorts on underneath and I'm about to bust your ass and appear low cut K-Swiss
nigga if I need be y'all niggas is pretty boys.
The Knicks is looking gritty.
I'm talking about when it's time for loose balls,
when it's time to snatch the ball away from y'all.
The McAlbritts is two games in a row.
The last two stops.
The first game, he did it on Jaylen Brown,
didn't let him get a shot off.
And the second game, he did it on Jason Tatum.
So it ain't even like no excuses. Yall superstars y'all super so even though Jalen Brown ain't light-skinned
yak and light-skinned all y'all niggas look like some pretty boys and the Knicks
look scrappy hungry and like they got they want a problem it's like if you
watch National Geographic's and you see the hyenas surrounding a deer and how
they just go crazy that's what y'all look like y'all look like a deer and how they just go crazy. That's what y'all look like.
Y'all look like a deer being surrounded by hyenas.
Hyenas?
Hyenas?
Hyenas?
Hyenas?
What, I'm pronouncing it?
Hyenas.
I'm pronouncing it right where I'm from.
I don't know what you're from.
It ain't hyenas?
I've never heard that in my life.
You've never heard of hyenas?
You never heard of that? No. You've never heard of hyenas? No. You've never heard of that?
No.
You've never heard of it?
Hyenas?
Hyenas?
Like the animal?
Yeah.
The hyenas?
What is that?
If you want to correct it, say it's right.
You know, it's hyenas, but you're saying hyenas.
What?
What I'm saying, two H's?
Two H's, yeah.
I'm going to just let you say how you say it.
It's okay.
It was just funny.
Listen, let me explain something from y'all.
Maybe Stats should Google big L.
I'm from a block where it's this shit called Ebonics,
and it was celebrated where I was from.
Hunt 39th Street, Lennox Ave.
Shout out to big L.
Rest of the pieces is this shit called Ebonics.
Celebrate it.
Celebrate it where I'm from.
If that's the case, Stats, say nigger with an ER when it's time to say nigger. Don't put an A at the end of it. Celebrate it where I'm from. If that's the case, say nigger with an ER
when it's time to say nigger.
Don't put an A at the end of it.
Say nigger.
When you say, yo, I'm finna do something.
What is finna?
What is I'm finna do something?
Do you say finna?
Because I don't say finna.
I say finna.
Exactly.
What is finna?
Do I ever say something when you be like,
finna?
What is finna?
Finna? I'm finna do this? What is Finna? Do I ever say something when you be like, Finna? What is Finna? Finna? I'm Finna, dude? What is Finna?
You about to? Are you about to do something? I'm Finna? Finna?
Finna? Finna? I don't do that to you.
You're so hyena. You know, like like that's what they look like. The pack of hyenas.
One, eight, or two.
You got it.
You got it.
However you want to put it.
Hyena, hyena, finna, finna.
I don't ever use finna.
I ain't even finna until I started traveling
because they don't say finna in New York.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I don't do that to you.
So we can all have this debate however long
you want to have it.
Don't take that shit I said for 65 the other day
like you're gonna come up here and abuse my curriculum.
No, that's not what I'm doing.
That was funny.
But you got it.
Nah.
You got it.
That's all good.
We got this debate all day.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
It's a lot of shit.
You know, niggas, these days, niggas just spell,
they spell it out.
They don't even say the whole shit.
Nigga, you know, I'm like, I don't know,
it's I-O-N-N-I-O.
They're spelling everything out no more.
But on a serious note, they look like a bunch of des,
ee-gen-ee-pa, hi-een-us, hyenas, hyenas, however you want to put it.
But the point being is they don't look right,
they don't want the moment.
If you're like, for instance,
Mace brought up Kobe or Michael Jordan,
and we always go back to these players
who won't let certain shit slide,
and neither one of them would have even let this get this close.
This is two 20 220 point leads that the
boss of Celtics blue pause and they
Don't have one person who could do anything about it. Jason Tatum has is one for 12 in the fourth quarter of this series
How does he have two points in the fourth quarter in two games?
I couldn't believe it Stephen A Smith was on this very show. We're actually when it. Stephen A. Smith was on this very show,
actually when we shooting in Miami,
but he's on this very show, it is what it is.
September, 20th, September, October, 2023,
the beginning of last season,
and said that Jason Taylor was better than Larry Bird.
And this was, and this before Boston even won a title though.
The nerve, say Stephen, Stephen A. Smith, you know you my brother, though audaciously
Larry Bird, you know what I'm like, one of them niggas from the Knicks would have been in the hospital
before that shit would happen. Nigga would have been in a coma from the Knicks before McKevin McHale,
Larry Bird, the Chief, but niggas never, they would never let this shit happen on this watch.
The nerve to say Jason Tatum is better than Larry Bird in 2023, in October 2023.
You my brother Stephen A but this the shit I'm talking about with these niggas.
These niggas is light skin.
I never seen Jason Tatum come without a crispy line up.
You know even Steph Curry coming scraggly sometimes.
The line is crispy every time, my nigga.
Let that shit grow out sometime, man.
This is part of the problem.
You keep worrying about the line up, my nigga.
Y'all niggas is not playing like superstars.
Y'all rich and pretty.
All y'all niggas got paid.
Derrick White got paid, Jason Tatum got paid,
Jalen Brown got paid.
Y'all some rich, pretty niggas,
and that's what y'all acting like.
And niggas are acting hungry like they weren't a problem.
Now what y'all do have on y'all side,
talking about Borstard,
is that Spike Lee will probably be in attendance
at Madison Square Garden.
Yeah, they can't let Spike in there.
They can't let Spike in the garden.
You're 2-0 without Spike.
Yeah, you're 2-0 without Spike.
The best bet is to keep Spike Lee out the guard,
by all means necessary.
Yo, you youngins, if y'all need Dragon Mountain,
if you need B, and say,
yo, we just gonna hold you here till the game's over,
if right outside the arena, do what y'all gotta do.
This is definitely not in New York's favor
to have Spike Lee there.
Okay, so also on the conversation of Jason Tatum,
trending right now is hashtag what did Steve Kerr know?
Basically, people were curious about why Tatum was benched
during Team USA, because everybody's asking
why Tatum ain't playing.
So Mace, is there something in particular
that you think Jason Tatum is lacking?
I know we said the lineup and stuff like that,
but what do you think?
Cam already hated on Tatum.
You don't need me to hate on him.
Hate is a strong term.
He's just critiquing.
Yeah, I would say what I see.
Maze, we know why you don't like Jason Tatum.
He say, you say you're entitled to him.
Now nobody would want championship
to ever have a team title.
Just because Jason Tatum said this.
Now nobody for one championship,
everybody one championship is penalized.
I don't have a problem with that.
I actually think Jason Tatum is good.
I just think comparing him to Larry Bird
at this point in his career is crazy.
Yeah, I was the one that said
he wasn't better than Larry Bird.
Bro, you looking over here because you know.
I ain't even gonna look over there.
He actually both said that. I'm gonna beat you. Yeah, when we was back in Miami. Yeah, yeah. So that didn't age gonna look over there. We actually both said that.
I'm gonna beat you.
We was back in Miami.
Yeah, yeah.
So that didn't age well, you know?
Not for Steve Vinaigrette.
Yeah, it didn't.
It was like, what?
You sure?
He tried to argue with us about it,
to be honest with you.
I was like, nah, that's crazy.
Larry Legend, man.
Larry gonna get distilled if we need to.
If we down two points, Larry get distilled for the game.
Larry came through pause every time there was clutch.
And what you was asking about, Steph?
Yeah, basically what do you feel
like Jason Tatum is lacking?
Just the mentality to cease the moment.
It's not that he can't seize the moment.
It's just his pride.
He has a different processor.
And because the way he processed the game is sometime he his his
his aggression is delayed.
It's not it's not passive aggressive, but it's a delayed aggressive.
Like, you know, there's some people you slap soon as you slap them.
They slapping you right back.
Another person slap you slapped them and they think about it and they'll kill you tomorrow
Those are two different people, you know I'm saying he's the latter
He's gonna come back the next game and go crazy, but you need to get that game
So it's not that he's not a killer. He just don't kill immediately. I
Don't know cuz he ain't't doing last game to this game.
I don't know what's going on with Jason Tatum to be totally honest with you because you
know why?
Jason Tatum to me, my personal opinion is that he doesn't have the respect for the Knicks
and the Knicks had gained to me has gained his respect just now because I believe in
the regular season if I'm not, the Celtics won all the games
in their regular season matchups, if I'm not mistaken.
But the point being is he doesn't have to respect.
And when I say that, I mean, he plays up
to the level of competition.
When he, like I said, I use Kevin Durant.
That's a good way to put it.
Yeah, I use Kevin Durant as an example,
because I just know when he plays against Kevin Durant, he goes off. When he plays somebody that's a good way to put it. Yeah, I use Kevin Durant as an example, because I just know when he plays against Kevin Durant,
he goes off.
When he plays somebody that's a superstar,
to me he goes off.
To me, he doesn't see a superstar on the Knicks,
and he's been awakened.
And if he hasn't been awakened,
then he can beat the fuck up in his sleep,
because Jalen Brunson has been the best player on the floor.
Not only that, the role players for the Knicks
have been doing better than the role players
for the Celtics.
Because think about this, if you got a Mckellen Bridges with zero points going into the fourth
quarter and going a 14-point tangent, that means that anybody could score, not anybody,
they are players on the Knicks that could score at any particular time.
Not everybody's going to go off for 14 straight points,
but they are people that obviously can.
When you got McBride coming off the bench,
giving you key buckets and giving you key minutes,
that matters.
When you got Josh Hart saying,
nah, y'all not gonna run me over,
y'all not getting it here.
That's another thing that the Boston Celtics
are having problems with.
The reason why they're not getting twos and taking threes
because they're not letting Boston bully them.
That Boston is trying to get the best,
they're not letting it happen
and the refs are letting them play.
The refs are letting niggas play
and they're not getting to the basket.
All that shit where they were calling the regular season,
I love it.
I love the way the game's being played in these playoffs.
They're not necessarily calling the hand checking,
they're not necessarily calling over the back. They're not necessarily calling over the back.
The only problems I have with the referee so far
is not calling three seconds.
Niggas is just chilling in the paint for 15, 16 seconds
and then not calling three seconds.
They'll call defense with three seconds every now and then
but the offense with three seconds is ridiculous.
I'm not just talking about Boston, New York.
I'm talking about throughout the playoffs. You cannot hang out in the paint. You just can't. You have to stay in
there two seconds and then get out. They're living there seven, eight, nine seconds and the refs
are calling it. That's my only problem with the referees. Besides that, I like the contact. I like
the physicalness. I like this because that's what I was saying last game. Jason Taylor's trying to
get to the basket. They're not letting him. They're trying to stop Jalen Burson from getting to the basket.
He's forcing his way through the contact.
They're trying to stop OGN and Ovi from getting his way through the basket.
And he's forcing his way through the contact.
Boston don't like contact to me.
It seems like they catch contact and they be like,
okay, cool, I'm gonna stop here.
Now let's bump pause.
Now, nigga, we gonna do this till I get to the basket.
We gonna bop, bop, bop.
If it's a nigga, if it take me some,
I'm getting to the basket, bro.
And Boston seems like when they get stopped
at that foul line or outside the paint,
jump shot it goes.
Fight your way through the contact and get to the basket.
Back to Jason Taylor and where he's lacking
and maybe why Steve Kerr didn't actually play him through the Olympics.
There's a clip that's out right now of Anthony Edwards.
Anthony Edwards was saying how before he was uh he got to the NBA he was trying out for
teams when he's about to go to the NBA.
He said he went to work out for Golden State and Steve Kerr and Bob Myers told him, you're not working out hard enough. If we had the number one pick, we wouldn't
pick you first. Anthony Edwards is telling the story. Um, and he was saying to his trainer,
he's like, he's sitting there sweating, uh, breaking, you know, he's like, he's doing
everything he could do to prove that he's doing it. And the whole workout, they said,
we had the first pick, we wouldn't want to pick you Anthony Edwards attributes that statement that Steve Kerr and Bob Myers gave him to being where
he's at now saying that that day made him go work out until he can't walk anymore basically
he said he goes in the gym and just falls out because Steve Kerr told him that that day before
he got to the NBA and the reason I'm bringing that up because Steve Kerr told him that that day before he got to the NBA. And the reason I'm bringing that up because Steve Kerr obviously was
coaching the Olympics and maybe he seen Sonny Jason Tatum and was like.
You're here tonight, like, nigga, you when do you sweat?
When do you go break it down?
You got to think about this.
When I reason I bring this up, we all all not all of us but I'll say this a
lot of people don't give Steve Kerr a lot of credit when it comes to coaching
even though he deserves a lot of credit but they say he had hereditary team that
was on a verge of already winning the championship you got a thing Steve Kerr
won a championship his first year coaching go to stay after Mark Jackson
basically nurtured his picks,
not his picks, but the Golden State Warriors picks, got them guys, Clay Thompson, Draymond Green,
Steph Curry and all them when they were babies and Steve Kerr took them as adults and been winning.
Now it takes a lot to win the championships that he won, it hasn't just been one, but he doesn't
get a lot of credit for that because they say he inherited that team.
But you got to realize he was under Popovich too,
I'm talking about Steve Kerr.
Not only under Popovich, he was under Phil Jackson.
He watched Michael Jordan play, he watched Tim Duncan play,
he watched Manuel Janoby play.
He's under these greats and he knows what it takes,
even though he wasn't a superstar,
but Steve Kerr actually hit buzzer be not buzzer beaters
But shots to win championships, so he knows whether he was the premier player or not
He was never the premier player. He's seen what premier players do and what they
Practice or their work ethic or whatever to win and when I seen that Anthony Edwards
interview or
Statement after postgame or whenever he did do that interview,
I'm gonna say if anybody knows, Steve Kerr knows.
And maybe that's why he didn't give Jason Tatum the time
in the Olympics because maybe he's seen something
as opposed to us just speculating.
Okay, so last question regarding the Knicks,
which is really the question of the day.
Mase, you're going to go first.
Do you think that they can win this next game at home?
Can is a matter of ability.
They can win it.
A better question is, do we think they will win it?
Is that what you were trying to say?
That very much gave hyenas and hyenas.
But yes, I'm asking.
Those are two separate questions you know.
Can they win it? Yes.
But will they win it?
If Spike doesn't show up, I'm gonna put it all on Spike.
If Spike shows up, it could be an Indiana flashback.
They might catch fire.
It's something about Spike when people see Spike as an opposing player, they
get hype and they, and they give their best performance.
That's why I said it.
I don't know, man.
Look, this is to see, this is the thing about it.
Mia Mesa stated this season after season after season on this show.
Don't get your hopes up with the Knicks.
You want to, but you're mostly a drain yourself.
This is what I'm saying about Knicks fans.
Right now, they in it.
As far as the Knicks is concerned, I'm talking about New York fans.
In their brain right now, they're up 2-0 in the championship.
Right now, they're up 2-0 in the championship.
I'll give you a great example, right?
And I'm not, and this is this,
and we still have a lot of basketball left to go,
not just this series, next series championship.
This has been a fantastic second round of basketball
across the board with everybody so far.
The year, me and, so my team, we had a good team.
And it was this team, and I'm talking about high school,
me and Mason and the rest of us.
We had a fantastic team, we had a real good team.
But the year, Stephon Marbury came to school,
he went to Lincoln and they were the best team
in New York City, public school, private school,
Catholic school, whatever school you want to name,
prep school, they were the best team
in the
state of New York. And so our coach used to just be like, yo, y'all all right, but if
y'all would play Lincoln, y'all niggas, yo, listen, man, I'm telling you, man, I don't
see it. You cool, you ain't, Stephon Marbury, you ain't, I can't even remember, Corey, whatever
the nigga name is, that nigga.
He had Darryl, there was a bunch of them niggas.
Yeah, I still remember them niggas' names.
Darryl Fleming, I forget.
Darryl Flickin.
Yeah, and Corey somebody.
Corey Phelps.
Yeah, see, I forget, forgive, but that's the name,
that's how often we had to hear it.
And so the playoffs came,
and we got the brackets for the playoffs.
And our coach showed us, he looked at the bracket and he said,
look like semi-finals because if we want all our games,
we played, we played Lincoln in the semifinals.
So he had the bracket, he looking at the paper in the locker room like,
he said, y'all going to the semifinals.
Y'all looking like semifinals. I don't see nothing past that.
Niggas is like, all right, man.
So we made it to the semi finals.
And we like, all right, show time.
Because basically to us, to me anyway,
that was like our championship.
Because if we beat them,
we are gonna definitely win the next game.
Because they the best team in the state of New York.
More of the story is we ended up beating them and then go to championship lose.
It's a famous game where I don't pass baseball, but we made it to the championship.
But the point being is we already mentally, anyway, we are to us, we mentally won.
Yeah, we was the champs.
We was the champs because we beat the champs
in the semifinals.
And we beat that other team twice already.
Yeah, we beat Brandeis twice in the regular season.
The reason I'm bringing this up is this,
is because even if the Knicks win,
it's still another series to get to the championship,
then you have to win the championship.
Now, Sin of course asked me this question.
If the Golders, pardon pardon Goldest, if the New
York Knicks win this series, is this a successful season? Or if they lose this series, is this
a successful season? I told him this is a, even if you don't go to the championship,
if you win this series against the Boston Celtics, this is a very successful year for
the Knicks. If you don't win this series against the Boats to Celtics,
this is not a successful year for the New York Knicks
because this is three years in a row,
this is the third year that you made it to the second round
and then you get bumped.
So if you keep going to the second round and get bumped,
it's not a successful year.
If you win this round, I'm gonna give y'all credit,
even if the Knicks don't go to the championship, getting to the Eastern Conference Finals
for the first time in 25 years will be a successful year
because that means you're making progress.
If you don't win this series,
this means you're stagnant at the second round.
So I don't know if the Knicks will win
because from what it's looking like,
they snatching the boys to Celtics heart.
But it's still New York. It's still the franchise.
I would definitely say, forget the series.
If they don't win this next game, everything turns around.
If you know New York, the tide could change really fast.
If they're up 2-0, right, Stat?
You got the New York jersey on.
Put the camera on, Stat.
Now you see how she's wearing the Jersey,
everybody in New York, that's how they're feeling right now.
Let them come to the garden and lose that first game.
All of a sudden, the air will leave the room.
All of the air will be out of the room.
People will be like, yo, what's going on?
Now we're at game four and it's two one.
What you think gonna happen? They'll lose game four and it's two one. What you think going to happen?
They'll lose game four.
If they lose game three, I'm just telling you the New York Knicks that I know
until they prove me different.
That's exactly what will happen.
And then we'll be in here talking about, is it a successful season sin?
So remember I told you straight from Title Town, two games, I'm still not excited.
If you win this third game, then we got something to talk about.
We really do have something to talk about.
But if you lose this next game, listen, I can guarantee you the whole time.
We had the same same shit last year.
And then we had to throw in a funeral for the Knicks.
We threw on all black,
played boys to men.
We been here just a year ago.
He was here.
This isn't even nothing new.
Knicks gotta calm down, man.
I agree with Mace, man.
I'm not rooting against y'all,
but we've been let down too many times.
And I'm not gonna decide about it.
The Knicks is like a girl, like a guy that got a girl
and he cheats on her all the time and he tell her,
you know, I'm gonna be faithful.
There's two games is like two weeks of faithfulness.
She just been through too much to believe it.
Does that make sense? It does. False promises. Yeah, yeah.
False promises.
We're not going for that.
Damn, damn, damn.
Okay, y'all.
So the nuggets got smoked.
We will discuss after the break. So welcome back to it is now.
So y'all know every week cam and Mase have been calling underdog to discount a player's
projection.
So, you know, cam makes the call and underdog makes the play cam.
Who are we discounting this week?
This week we're going to go with Tyrese Halliburton.
Right now he's at 33 and a half points,
rebounds and assists,
but I like that number a little better if it's 27 and a half.
Let me call UD right now and see what's going on
on the bat line.
UD, what's good, baby?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that time of the week week again. Look y'all got Tyrese Halliburton at 33 and a half points rebounds and assists
I think I want them at 27 and a half
Yeah, yeah 27 and a half points rebounds and assists under cold care
All right
Copy that points, rebounds and assists under Code Care. All right, copy that.
Done deal, y'all.
So we got Tyrese Halliburton at 27 and a half points,
rebounds and assists.
Don't say I ain't do y'all the favor.
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So make sure y'all take advantage of the It Is Now promo. Welcome back. So the Nuggets, they were down pretty bad after losing to OKC 149 to 106
of 43 point difference. The series is tied. But Mace, what did you think of OKC's performance?
Man, OKC came back like like Denver had their bike, you know, like you telling me it ain't it ain't my bike.
Those niggas came back and went crazy on.
Oh, I'm in on Denver.
It just seemed like from the first quarter, it was just a blowout pause from the first
quarter.
Once they got up like 23, I know they that Denver came back from 20 points before.
It just seemed like the game was over from the first quarter and it just kept building as the time go on you go get something.
They look back at the game.
They down 30 then it back down to 29.
Then it's up to 40.
Once it got up to 40, I said, I know they're not going to beat them by 50.
Then you look at halftime and they're up and this is 80 points at halftime.
So you're watching a team that's balling uncontrollably.
Everybody is hitting a shot.
It's like they sat down before the game and they say, you know what?
We are not losing this game.
We're not leaving it up to the refs.
And that's what it looked like when you're not leaving it up to the refs.
We're going to go out there and take this game.
It's not going to matter what the refs is calling what they're not calling
It's like they got every rebound. They got every loose ball and pause
they was they was actually hitting a lot of threes from everywhere and
Just just seemed like they was playing at a different speed than okay
See it seemed I'm at arm dim, but the only person seemed like they was playing at the same speed as okay
See was Russell Westbrook
He was flying down the lane, but once they start getting texts and stuff like that. He got really out of control
But I look forward to them bounce back to game three
Yeah to me it ain't really too much to say the game that happened last night was a game to me personally
That I thought was gonna happen the first game
was a game to me personally that I thought was going to happen the first game. OKC come out here and smack Denver because like I said Denver was in a seven game grueling series
with the Clippers and I said to myself game one they're going to come out get blown out they are
48 hours low notice not even 48 hours less than 48 hours and they came back from a 20 point deficit
to actually win a game again Aaron Gordon to the rescue. So I'm not gonna take too much to this game you
know we've seen OKC set a record for the most points in the first half of any
playoff series ever, 87 points in one half. After that it was a foregone
conclusion even though the starters Jamal Murray, Joker, they played the third
quarter to try and mount a comeback, foregone conclusion at halftime.
Isn't really much to take from this game, me personally. What I will say is this,
Denver came in and did what they had to do and snatched home court advantage back
for them, winning that first game. And this is the first game in the second
round, actually. They're the home team and they actually won a home game. But Denver did what they had to do the first game. And this is the first game in the second round actually that a home team has actually won a home game.
But Denver did what they had to do the first game.
We'll see what happens next game.
Okay. So now I want to get into this anonymous NBA players poll
because we started discussing it a couple episodes ago
when we're talking about Halliburton being overrated
and things like that.
So basically this poll, they spoke with 158 players
over one third of the league with players from all 30 teams represented. So I'm kind of going to read the question, give you guys the answer
and see if that aligns with what you guys think it would be. So the first question is which team,
other than your own, do you think will win the title this season? The most popular answer was
the Celtics, but given that their own two in the series right now versus the Knicks,
would that still be your answer or do you think that it's another team?
No, I think there's several other teams, because, you know,
right now, the two teams I'm rooting for is Golden State and Denver.
Right. So other than those two teams, I could see I could see Indiana winning it.
You know, other than our teams, if I had to pick a team, Indiana.
You think Pacers could win it all?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, and Kim.
If it's not Boston,
my personal opinion is gonna be a West Coast team.
Right now, I would say OKC,
but I definitely still wanna see how Golden State looks.
I like Golden State a lot.
We gotta see if, look at Steph Curry's health, see if he's healthy. Excuse me, see if Steph Curry's healthy. But
outside of Boston and right now Boston doesn't look good. Look like a West Coast team, but
the grit of the Knicks. The Knicks look really scrappy. Don't care what's going on.
I like the Knicks, but we ought to also keep in mind
that Indiana is the one who sent the Knicks home last year.
And Indiana is up two oh.
See, Indiana just isn't sexy.
Halliburton doesn't go for 45 or 50.
He does just enough.
Now I don't want to say just enough.
He's a great point guard that has a balanced attack
with his team.
And so when he gets 17 points or 25 points, it matters within the team.
He doesn't have to go for 45 or 50.
We watched Donovan Mitchell get 47 last game, 48 points, and still lose.
Even though his other two All-Stars wasn't there, that doesn't matter.
It's the playoffs toughen up and get out there. Um, so I would look Indiana scrappy, um,
Nixon scrappy, but if we're talking about when they'd all right now if I had to pick one team
According to what's going on right now today at 8 30 a.m. In the morning today. I'm going with okay, see
Okay, and then the next question is, five years from now,
and we're always talking about face of the league,
Mase, who do you think would be the face of the league?
The popular answer is Wemby.
Yeah.
That's what I would have said.
Five years from now.
Because you think about how different he
looks on the wing right now.
I can only imagine like a
couple years under his belt developing a three, being able to get
some other players around him. He's gonna be a real problem. He's
not even in the weight room. He haven't gained pause like 10-20 pounds of
muscle and he come back and play being 7- 4 on at the 3 is going to be a real
problem because we were able to see what Kevin Durant was able to do once he started growing a
little pause from from 6, 10 to 6, 11 and almost 7 foot or however tall he became. And we saw how
great of a player he was able to become
hopefully without injuries that Wimby could do the same. I think he's the face
of the league as we move forward.
I don't know the answer to this. I'm not gonna say Wimby because I know De'Arens Fox is there now.
They're gonna be in the lottery to end up getting somebody maybe good.
But the reason I don't say Wimby,
and he could be the face of the league,
I'm not saying he is or isn't,
but we always do five years of anything.
When you figure yourself in five years in life,
where you gonna be in five years?
Everything changes, there's no guarantee.
I remember the internet came out, changed up everything.
Niggas was going to Blockbuster,
now you a stupid whack going with a VHS tape.
What are you doing?
Motherfucking niggas don't know what a VHS,
nigga came and signed a VHS tape,
my man in the booth the other day.
Stat didn't know what the fuck it was.
Stat didn't know what a VHS tape was.
She didn't even know, I said,
if you seen a VCR, would you be able to work it?
She's like, I can figure it out.
But things change five years, every five years,
shit change. I told Stan about a beeper,
Stan didn't even know what a beeper was.
I said, Stan, I gotta find that video.
Stan, what's a beeper?
She said, when you pick up your phone
and it goes beep, beep, beep.
I said, I said, I said, yo, nah, man,
a beeper is something where somebody just beeps you
and your hip vibrates for us
and you look at the number,
they gotta go find the phone that calls somebody.
It's a whole to do.
I never knew that.
I thought you were sending voice messages.
My mom was looking at me crazy
because she's like, how you been?
I was like, y'all never had that?
I ain't never seen that.
And I knew what a VHS tape was, I just never seen it.
So when you seen it, I was like, oh.
It's one of those things, y'all.
So how did you know what it was if you'd never seen it? Probably movies, like I never seen it. So when you seen it, I was like, oh, it's one of those things, y'all. So how did you know what it was if you'd never seen it?
Probably movies, like I never seen,
or like my grandma had some of them sitting around,
but it's like, I didn't know what it was
when he was signing it.
Yeah, they had to pay them for it.
Yeah.
I was signing it, I said, you know what this is?
I said it, so that's why I blew the spot up.
She didn't know, she said, you just said it
so you know what it is.
But in five years, the reason I don't say Wimby outright
is because look, to me, Wimby's an outstanding talent
for his person seven-four.
Shoot the three, could dribble defensive, prouder, et cetera.
But to me, he can't take a team to the next level,
dolo, and I know how he could do a dolo,
but we've seen LeBron James basically do a dolo
when he first moved to Cleveland.
I mean, if you want to count Eric Snow,
and pardon me, not Snow, Boo Boo,
or whatever the nigga point guard name is,
and all these other people.
Yeah, yeah, huh?
The point guard that used to,
I ain't even talking about Shepard,
the nigga that was born in Keisha Cole,
Boo, the niggas.
Boo, yeah, Booby Gibson and all them niggas, Boo Boo Gibson, whatever.
No disrespect if I got your name wrong, I'm just saying you wasn't like that.
LeBron basically took niggas by they self.
When I see Allen Iverson, the reason I brought Eric Snow, because I see Allen Iverson, or Eric Snow, and McKee, and so on.
Allen Iverson did that.
You know what I'm saying?
I've seen niggas one man banded, not one at all.
I'm not gonna say one at all,
but they definitely took teams to their conference finals,
if not the championship.
Wimby didn't even get close to that.
And I know you playing in a packed Western Conference
and the two people that are named was playing in the East,
but it wasn't like the East was super sweet,
especially when Allen Alveson was playing.
So I seen people take teams to the championship dolo,
and I seen Wimby not even get close to that.
I know he didn't finish out the season this season,
and we hope he gets better soon,
but they wasn't gonna do nothing this season either.
And it isn't like he's making them contenders dolo.
Now, if he gets some people over there and help him out like so far help is on the way Aaron like I
said the Aaron Fox is there we'll see what happens in the offseason if they
could get some other people but you ain't I've seen niggas I've seen LeBron
doing I seen motherfucking Allen Avison do it you not doing what I seen them
doing at much tougher times. Next question is who is the league's most overrated player?
I know that we discuss Halliburton, so Mase, first, I want your thoughts on that.
And then I want your guess of who you think the second person is.
You said Halliburton?
Yeah, he was voted most overrated by the other players.
And then I want your guess of who you think the second most overrated person is.
I don't think Halliburton is overrated.
This was a player. Yeah, that That sound like they are light skinned.
Yeah they hating on Halliburton. Halliburton must be famous pausing the tunnel with the ladies.
Niggas say hey don't you like that. You know you would know about that. Yeah niggas say yo that nigga ain't like that. How did I come up?
Yo, who's the second most overrated person?
This is going to sound crazy, but I think Tyler Aro.
I think he's another person people be like overrated.
I think that's crazy.
He's on the voting.
He's just not second.
Oh yeah. Tyler A's just not second. Oh, yeah.
Tyler Heyro will be second.
Because I thought when he came out of Kentucky, he was going to be like really special.
There's something about Miami.
You just got to be focused.
You could turn it around, but shooting back at stat.
Yeah, I see.
Okay.
Nah, yeah. Tyler Heyro. Definitely. I'm, okay. Nah, yeah, Tyler Aro, definitely.
I was expecting more.
Okay, and Cam?
You're asking who's on the list a second or my opinion?
Who do you think is guest a second?
Oh, I ain't going by that list.
I'll tell you my opinion.
That sound like niggas hating.
Tyrese Halliburton, you know where this hate come from?
For him getting to the Olympics.
You know, that's where niggas be like,
yo, how the fuck he make the, Jalen Brand supposed to be at the Olympics. Oh, this? For him getting to the Olympics. You know, that's where niggas be like, yo, how the fuck he make the,
Jalen Brand supposed to be at the Olympics.
Oh, this nigga supposed to be at the Olympics.
That's all this is really about.
Tyrese Halliburne's a solid point guard.
He's been to Eastern Conference Finals already.
Olympic champion.
He has plenty of time.
He's super duper young.
I think this is some personal shit
because he light skinned
and he doesn't always have 50
or 40 points.
So I'm not going by that list.
I would love to hear whose first, second, third.
I get it that we're about to get to that.
But my number one overrated player, and when I say overrated, I don't think that he's not
good when healthy.
I just think that he'd be ducking smoke and he hasn't got to the mountain top is Joe LMB.
Your Joe LMB, the process started in 1827 with you.
It's 200 years old a process, man.
When is this process that you speak of, bro?
What is this?
Now, I get you was hurt this season.
We see you physically hurt last season in the playoffs,
trying to do the best you could do.
But when you keep ducking the joker,
season after season after season and not going to
Denver and not motherfuckin' want to play that man in the Malahow City, to me you're the
most overrated player.
Not only that, you're super duper talented, you get all these pieces every year around
you and you still can't get niggas over the mountain top.
I know Kawhi hurt your heart one year with the buzzer beater, we get all that.
But you had other years after that and before that to get there.
So if you're talking about my number one overrated player is Joel Embiida.
Not that he's not good.
He's just so good that he should be having a team at least to the championship if nothing,
if not have won a championship already.
So that's my number one overrated player, especially when you keep ducking the joker
when you have.
Great take.
And then so voted as second is Rudy Gobert
and third is Trey Young.
What are you guys' thoughts?
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that Trey Young.
I think niggas is capping with that.
Cause he gives a lot of points,
but I guess it's based on what team you on.
If you're on a team that's letting you go crazy,
then you're going to go crazy. Especially a team that's letting you go crazy, then you're gonna go crazy.
Especially if you got the talent to do so.
But if he was on another team, would he be scoring 30?
Probably not.
Yeah, my opinion as far as Rudy Gobert and Trae Young,
this is why I don't like this list.
What's this list based on the criteria?
Because you sit there and say,
the first person is Tyrese Harlanburn.
Then you say Rudy Gobert.
They say Trae Young.
Rudy Gobert is a great defensive player.
I actually won Defensive Player of the Year a couple times.
But is he a superstar?
No.
Trae Young is supposed to be a superstar.
Tyrese Harlanburn, is he a superstar?
No, but he's an all-star.
So now we're talking about an all-star that you're saying is overrated to somebody who's a defensive player, number two, to supposed to be superstar, number three.
I think you have to make this list in the criteria of players because if that's the case, we can look at the 12th man on each team and say that, oh, them niggas is overrated.
What are they taking the spot for? You know what I'm saying?
You can sit there and go,
well, Bronnie James is LeBron's son, da da da da da.
It depends on what criteria is overrated mean
for each player.
So I don't like the list.
I need to know the criteria of what kind of player
you're talking about, a role player,
a superstar, defensive prior list, an all-star.
What's this based upon?
And I know you're said based upon all NBA players
But it's you know, it's 10 11 12 men on every team
You could go to every you could name all of those niggas who don't get no burn
Because they coach don't feel they should get burned. It's overrated. So I don't like the list because I don't know the criteria
Yeah, we was watching the game. We was watching the game the other day and I, and I told Biza, I was like, look at this
nigga, he's not better than anybody we know.
And there was a guy in the game, but he was six, eight.
So I was thinking about that.
Like a lot of these, a lot of players are not really that skilled.
They just, they just have height.
Like if you were six, six, killer, what kind of player you think you would have been?
Kobe.
Kobe out there.
I look at the game like, man, niggas have paws.
Four more inches, paws, the height.
Yeah, that's a fact.
You could be in the league.
Yeah, this is true.
This is true.
Yeah.
OK, so last question before we wrap, we got to talk about football.
This is breaking news.
So the Steelers traded George Pickens to the Cowboys in exchange for 2026
third round pick and a 2027 fifth rounder to Pittsburgh.
While the Steelers will also include a 2027 sixth round pick.
Mace, does this deal make sense for the Steelers or the Cowboys?
The Cowboys, it doesn't make sense for the Steelers.
They could have kept them.
What is going on?
Are you now still trusting Mike Tomlin is the question.
That's what I should be asking you,
because this is a dumb move.
This is...
Do you think this is a smart move, Stat?
I think all the moves we made have been dumb,
but I'm a Steelers fan, so I'm gonna stick by them.
I'm gonna stick beside them, I'm a stick beside him.
That's all I can do.
Here you go.
I'll say my take at the end.
Where's Papa stat out in all of this?
Yeah.
Why would you, why would you do this to him?
It's not like you had another wide receiver that was better than them.
Why?
I, this just makes no sense.
You don't have a quarterback and then you don't have a wide receiver.
Yep.
You know, DK.
At least they know something,
they must have something figured out.
That's what I think we're all thinking
in the back of our brains.
Like, yeah, they have something figured out,
but we have yet to see the something that's figured out.
So.
Yeah, this is crazy.
Cam.
You got to stop blaming Mike Tomlin for shit.
Mike Tomlin is not the GM. It's trading and making for sure Mike Tomlin is not the GM
Trading and making moves Mike Tomlin is just coaching like we got to stop everything stealer related saying yo
I can't fuck with Mike Tomlin. I just with his Mike Tom. Mike Tomlin is there to coach the team in the game
Do the trade just now that was the GM
I'm more calm if you won't blame anybody blame in the go more car
See what niggas do is put the black man on the front.
Put him up.
Let him if it go crazy, he the one.
He's the one.
Yo, put, God bless to that.
Yeah, the niggas love the sneakers.
Put Virgil on the cover.
Let him be the face of it.
Yo, they like Michael Jordan.
Put him face tonight.
Let him do it.
Meanwhile, some niggas in the back, he in.
But they put you in your face.
And as the black card, to make it seem like
if anything go wrong, it was this nigga.
Mike Tomlin ain't do nothing but just wait and see
what he got to work with when it's time to work with it.
Secondly, you asked me when I think about this,
why the fuck would I pay attention to the Steelers
or the Cowboys in the off season?
I don't pay attention to niggas like that
in the regular season.
You think I give a fuck what's going on
with the Steelers or the Cowboys in May?
What the fuck are we talking about?
The Steelers and the Cowboys in May?
What did even one of these franchises do in this century
that make me want to pay them any mind in May?
Stateness.
Century, did you hear that?
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, well listen, let me rephrase that.
In a century.
In a century.
Literally, no words.
Let me rephrase that.
At least the Steelers got two Super Bowls in this century. Since the century turned.
The Cowboys haven't even been to a fucking conference final, an NFC championship this
century.
So, that's with the Cowboys this century.
Steelers got two championships in the last 25 years.
The last one that was for the last 13 years.
Why the fuck would I waste my time paying it?
I look at the shit, Steele is Cowboys.
I'm scrolling, I'm not paying attention,
it's coming on my TV, I'm turning.
I'm not watching that shit in May, it's May.
I'm telling you, and then you talking about Pickens?
Where the fuck, who is Pickens?
Kenny Pickens, what's the nigga name, Pickens?
George Pickens.
What, what, what, what, what, what,
what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,
what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, Kenny Pickens? George Pickens! With the receiver or the quarterback?
With the receiver, what?
You don't have a quarterback!
I know you're talking about with Pickens.
The reason y'all put Pickens,
don't get me wrong, he high, but he the best
thing y'all got, so that's why y'all talk about him.
Like yo, he ain't no motherfucking
uh, he ain't
motherfucking um, Justin
um, my nigga in Minnesota. He ain't no, he ain't, he ain't, he ain't motherfucking Justin, my nigga in Minnesota.
He ain't no, he ain't, he ain't Justin Jefferson.
He ain't chased.
He ain't CD, he ain't lamb and dallah.
What are we talking about Pickens?
That's the only nigga that's still got something like,
woo Pickens, he ain't like that.
He ain't like, that's why they got rid of him.
He's not like that.
He's not.
He's good in Pittsburgh because y'all have nobody else
to brag about.
So he's making, see, and then not only that,
y'all have a really good, great quarterback situation
the last few years.
So you got Russell Wilson, then young nigga,
one nigga just went to the-
Justin Fields.
Justin Fields.
Nigga, when we talking about these niggas for May?
It's May, and we talking about these niggas for May? It's May and we talking about a C level receiver.
Period, like yo, a C level receiver.
He ain't one of them top three receivers nigga.
Ain't a fuck what we talking about.
Good stack, good.
So, that was a lot to process.
No, because that's the problem because for him to be one of our best tools,
like obviously we got TJ Watt, Fry them up.
We got a lot of good tools for you to get rid of
one of our best tools and give them to the Cowboys
and pair him up with one of the best receivers in CDLAM.
It doesn't make sense.
That's quite literally the issue that we're mad about
because we don't now like what, our Ryber C for one,
yes, we have DK.
We don't know how he's going to fit on our offense.
We didn't draft a wide receiver.
We don't have a quarterback and this is one of, you know,
like a respected organization.
Obviously it's my favorite team.
But aside from that, the Steelers way is to win.
So it's like when you have all these trades that aren't
making sense, we get rid of Pickens, which in my opinion,
I'm thinking he had to have not wanted to be there because it doesn't make sense to get rid of Pickens, which in my opinion, I'm thinking he had to have not wanted to
be there because it doesn't make sense to get rid of him, especially because we don't
have anything much. Yes, there's DK, but in replacement for him. Yes, we have Calvin Austin.
We don't know how that's going to work. And so looking at this right now in May, yeah,
it's a problem because it's like, Oh, still, you're going to get Aaron Rodgers. So is going
to do this. We still don't have any of that. So at this point in time, I'm pissed I'm frustrated and as much as y'all don't want to talk about it
We're gonna talk about it if moves keep happening because we don't have a solution and we need a solution ASAP. That's all I'm gonna say
They knew what direction they needed to go and pause they knew to keep picking
I mean from that from the objective view is saying we know what we're going to get from him.
Yes, you don't know what you're going to get from the new people, but we know what we're
going to get from him.
And in order to move in the future, we got to move towards it.
And that's kind of the decision they made.
They ain't moving towards nothing.
That's what I've seen.
And now everybody's talking about the cowboys are contenders.
The cowboys are going to do that.
No, I don't want to hear that either.
I'm just annoyed all around.
Dumb decisions that keep happening.
This is why today I'm wearing a New Jersey
because nobody's making sense.
So I'm not gonna make sense either.
That's what I'm gonna say.
So.
That's what I'm saying.
Like for instance, right?
Let me just give you an example, right?
Let's go Madden Rankins.
Justin Jefferson, 99.
Of course.
Tyree Hill, 96. Chase, 93.
Pickens is like 81.
Like you think he's not even knowing he's far down the list.
Like, yo, like a nigga not, he not top five, top seven, eight, nine, ten.
This nigga, what are we talking about? Madden ain't fucking with him. God bless the day. on the list like, yo, like a nigga not, he not top five, top seven, eight, nine, 10, this nigga?
What are we talking about?
Matt ain't fucking with him, God bless the day.
Snicker, yo.
My nigga, I don't know, let me see all the wide receivers.
Matt ain't got them at 81.
81, my nigga.
That meanie, all right.
All right, let me just name everybody ahead of him
for you, Murda.
Justin Jefferson, number 199.
Jamar Chase, number 297ar Amar Ra St. Brown 96
Tariq Hill 96 CD lamb 95 Mike Evans 94 Terry McLauren 94 AJ Brown 93 Davante
Adams 91 Cooper Cup 90 Stefan Diggs, 90.
Brandon Iyuk, 89. Drake London, 89.
DK Metcalf, 88.
Nico Collins, 88.
Luca Nakua, 88.
Chris Olive, 87.
Chris Godwin, Olive, I'm sorry.
Chris Godwin, 87.
Devante Smith, 87.
DJ Moore, 86.
Garrett Wilson, 86. Jackson Smith, 86. T Higgins.
There were seven receivers I never heard of on there. I'm exaggerating, but what are we talking
about? What are we talking about? What are we receiver list. What are we talking about, bro?
Yes, that, I just said.
I'm not gonna do that to him.
And also that was the whole reason
why he had the statement always fucking open
because he wasn't getting thrown the ball.
Like there was just a lot going on in the organization.
That's clearly internal that we don't know about.
I think he is gonna shine on the Cowboys
and that's why I'm pissed because it's like,
that's kind of literally,
kind of literally what happened with Miami.
Obviously Jimmy Butler was already great, but then you traded him to the Warriors and now he's having a ball. Like that's kind of literally, kind of literally what happened with Miami. Obviously Jimmy Butler was already great,
but then you traded him to the Warriors
and now he's having a ball.
Like that shit sucks.
Nobody wants to see that.
Your key piece of beat.
Look at that.
Let me tell you something.
And ain't no receiver.
You don't want to see your ex shining.
It ain't no receiver.
It ain't, yeah, there you go.
It ain't no receiver since I was starting
watching football in the 80s,
where you say they not open.
Motherfucker Antonio Brown said he's 7'11",
said right there in that chair, said,
I'm always open.
I'm 7'11".
Who?
Always fucking open.
That was the statement that he made
and then he got fired from NFL.
What I'm saying is every receiver
thinks they're always open.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
There is no receiver that doesn't think
that they're not open.
All these receivers over the years,
if you see the really good receivers be bugging out
because they get mad because they always open.
Terrell Owens, yo, nigga Tony Romo, miss, I'm always open.
That's why I was brung up Antonio Brown
because he sat here on our show and said,
he's always open.
It's not a receiver that doesn't think they're always open.
Now, will he shine on Dallas?
Perhaps because you know why? He's not the main option. Now if he's a pair of mashed potatoes or
asparagus, that's fine. You're not the steak. You're not the lobster, nigga. You're not
the filet mignon, yo. You potatoes and you asparagus. So when you go to Dallas, it may
work out because we know who the number one option is. Lamb is the number one option. So therefore, if he is double, you should be able to catch it
because you're the potatoes and asparagus. Yeah, CD lamb is the snake for Le Mignon.
Yeah, it's the true. So good luck. It should work out because you ain't the number one nigga. Cowboys fans, you're welcome. But that is
all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what
it is. Thanks for watching!