IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE NHL ALL STAR IS LIT, WEMBY DONE FOR THE YEAR & STOP POSTING YOUR LIFE ON SOCIAL MEDIA! S6 EP26

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

On this episode, Maurice Clarett joins Ma$e, Cam'ron and Trysta to talk about PK Subban taking shots at the NBA and Lebron James over their lackluster All Star Weekend, did the NHL set the bar with th...is new format of the "4 Nations". Then, the NBA is going to change the way they do contracts moving forward with all this load management and guys missing games getting this ridiculous. Next, we breakdown how wild this Bobby Portis suspension is for him and the Bucks. Finally, you gotta STOP posting your life on social media because people will rob you! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm your host, Trista Crick, AKA Tris, with your host, Mason Cam, and it's Friday, so we have our guest analyst, Maurice Clourette. What up? Mo was good. Oh. I'm enjoying the comedy, man. Look at Mo.
Starting point is 00:01:12 He got the Yankee hat on. What that represent? It just match the outfit. That's it. Steinbrenner's. The Steinbrenner's. Good stuff. We got to get up out of this part of the show.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Last night, big night for hockey, big night for the white folks. It was Canadian folks versus the USA. We had the Four Nations Cup, which was the NHL All-Star format. P.K. Subban came on and talked to Stephen A. Smith before the Four Nations tournament to talk about the difference between basketball All-Star format, PK Subban came on and talked to Stephen A. Smith before the Four Nations Tournament to talk about the difference between basketball All-Star games and NHL All-Star games.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And he kind of threw some shade, little rickshaw shade, rickshaws at LeBron James saying, hey, NBA players making all this money, they should play hurt. They should figure out a way to play in front of these exhibition crowds because they're paying a lot of money. So, Mo, I wanted to kind of ask you first, why does everyone blame everything that's wrong about the NBA on LeBron?
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's pretty simple. He's the most successful person, and I think just some of the stuff that he's doing or has done has never been done before. You have to figure man since 18 years old I can remember walking across campus and hearing him first talk to me about his 90 million dollar contract with Nike and I'm 41 right now and this man is still planning the NBA, still making gargantuan amounts of money and his kids are at NBA and he's done stuff for himself, for his friends that I'm pretty sure people envy,
Starting point is 00:02:50 people have criticism that it doesn't remind them of what they've come from, but he's just an easy guy to blame. And I don't have anything negative to say about the hockey guy. I looked him up and he seems to be a respectful player. But one thing I will say is this, that everybody sees sees the world their comments come from how they see the world I don't think LeBron is playing our Sort of leading the track of wanting to be superstar NBA player anymore LeBron functions more as an owner and something that's outside of
Starting point is 00:03:20 What we normally see all of his business moves him wanting to get his sons at the NBA, so on and so forth. And so the guy's correcting what he's saying, but also how LeBron moves, even when he takes the picture in his street clothes, he's basically saying like right now, I do whatever the fuck I wanna do. And everybody on that platform,
Starting point is 00:03:39 Mace and Cam, we've all been in environments like that, whatever platform and say, right now I'm doing what I wanna do, but he's just doing it with the NBA. What do you think, Mace? Do you think it's unfair that it feels like, okay, we blame the dunk contest being whack on LeBron, we blame super teams on LeBron, we blame the All-Star game as a whole being whack on LeBron?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Is this unfair? Um, I don't think you get to say something is unfair when it comes to being a king. When you're the king, you win, you get the spoils. And when it's not going well, you have to shoulder the blame. I think it's impossible to be the king without taking the ownership. Like, there's something that we used to...
Starting point is 00:04:23 We were taught, like, when we first... When I when I first started like studying about my faith, right? They tell you that you're responsible however it goes. If it goes right, you're responsible. And if it goes wrong, you're responsible as a man. You know, you don't get to be a man and not be responsible. So definitely when it comes to being a king, you're responsible. First of all, I watched that game.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yo, I might start watching hockey. That shit was dope. Yo, that shit was really fucking dope. I don't know if it was because it was country versus country or whatever, but I was intense, pausing the house watching that shit. I'm like, yo, this is fucking lit. Like, I became probably a tennis fan maybe eight years ago,
Starting point is 00:05:06 like nine, anybody, you watch tennis? Tennis is a fucking dope ass sport. Tennis, you can't, it's almost like boxing or swimming, I'm not saying as far as physical damage you may get, but you can't depend on anybody. And it's a skillful sport, you know, you can hit it pause, 100 miles per hour, 120 miles per hour on the serve, soft pause, it's a lot of different things
Starting point is 00:05:29 that go on tennis. Hockey last night, I think the reason I never really watched hockey is because you gotta find a puck, you know, they need to figure out something to put in that puck to where you know where it's at if you're watching from home. And I think that's kind of the reason, I'm like, I don't know where this shit is at.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Kind of when you're watching football and they give you that yellow line so you know where the's at if you're watching from home. And I think that's kind of the reason. I'm like, I don't know where this shit is at. Kind of when you're watching football and they give you that yellow line so you know where the first down is at. Probably the last 10, 11, 12 years or however long they've been putting out television, they need to figure out if hockey. But the game was fucking spectacular. The atmosphere is spectacular.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And you have people in there representing their country. I think that was bigger than a city to city. Of course it is bigger than city to city thing, but more of the story is I watch hockey highlights, but for me to watch three quarters, I miss the overtime. I see Canada one in the overtime, but for me to watch three quarters of hockey, that was big time for me.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And I think I'm gonna start paying attention to more big hockey games. Back to the original topic, as far as people blaming LeBron for things. You gotta have somebody to blame, right? You gotta figure out who we're gonna blame. You gotta put something on people and they're figuring this LeBron.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Moe made a great point. If you've been doing this this long, right, as long as LeBron, and he's lived up past expectation, that's the thing about it is that it's one thing to meet expectation, it's another thing to pass it, and it's another thing to come short of it. How many people are we seeing come short
Starting point is 00:06:59 of expectation in the NBA? Number one picks people that you thought was gonna be superstars, things just didn't pan out. He surpassed expectations to the point where he's so good, and not saying his son isn't good, but his son is in the league because that's how good he is. It's up to Brian to do his job from there. But yeah, you're gonna blame people.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Like I said, my only problem with LeBron the other day was just like, damn, you could've let them know a little earlier so somebody else could have filled the spot. We get it. You've been here 21 years. You don't give a fuck. And I don't think that you don't give a fuck. I think it's more about the...
Starting point is 00:07:31 Look, if we ain't gonna do this the old traditional way, I don't want to do it. I don't give a fuck. I've been here doing this 20-something years. I looked at the stat the other day. LeBron James has more playoff points than seven different NBA franchises. Are you like, does that, do you hear that? LeBron James has more playoff points
Starting point is 00:07:52 than seven different NBA franchises. That's incredible. And the Knicks are one of them, actually. Because we just called a sin when we found out about the highlight. For LeBron James James have more playoff points than the Knicks as a franchise, and the playoffs that is. It's fucking ridiculous. We gotta stop doing this to LeBron
Starting point is 00:08:12 and because we're still doing it, because he's still playing so well, you put a lot of onus on him like, oh, he ain't doing this. The nigga's 40, who doing this at 40? Give the nigga a fucking break. Give the nigga a fucking break, bro. And I get what Macy's saying too. I'm not ignoring what Macy's saying.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Macy's saying, look, and that's for all of us. And once you're in the spotlight, you're open to criticism. That's just the way it fucking goes. You're open to criticism. But anybody else, you've been calling a senior citizen. He's old, what is he doing out there? This down to third.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Every time LeBron makes his layup, it's a new 40-year-old stat. Oh, the first 40- out there? This down to third, every time LeBron makes his layup, it's a new 40 year old stat. Oh, the first 40 year old player to do this, first 40 year old player to do that, 440 year old player. LeBron was just number one on ESPN top 10 highlights. And it was well deserved. Down to, yo, LeBron is doing amazing shit in his age.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And for y'all to keep blaming him for a dunk contest, keep blaming him for All-Star Game, whatever, bro. He ain't been doing the dunk contest. Y'all had 20 years to figure that shit out, and you're still blaming LeBron. 10, 12 years later, Stephen A's my man, and he said, LeBron single-handedly messed the NBA dunk contest up.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Okay, Stephen A, I get it, and you're my bro, of course, you know I love you. But they had mad years to figure this out after LeBron didn't do it. Michael Jordan and Dominique, they had two back-to-back dunk contests, maybe three. Michael Jordan maybe won three. I'm thinking of two.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't know if it's more than two. But he ain't win 10. He ain't win five. He ain't win eight. He won two, three great dunk contests. And that was that. So after LeBron didn't do it the first five, six,
Starting point is 00:09:45 seven, eight years, the NBA should have figured out, there you go, the NBA should have figured out something else or somebody else to go ahead and do it. And what they're saying is that people followed LeBron so they wanted to do it. LeBron didn't wanna follow Mike. He wanted to create his own path. Y'all gotta stop blaming LeBron for shit
Starting point is 00:10:03 and put this on the onus of how kids are being raised, social media, their parents, the lackluster hustle and not, definitely lackluster hustle, but the want, the if factor to say, no, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, fuck that. Stop blaming LeBron for everything. I can't, you know, it's not right. But Macy's right, when you're the king,
Starting point is 00:10:26 you're open to criticism. But goddamn, he's 40. Yeah, and we go to the over 40 league every two. So we know what 40 actually looks like. LeBron is doing an amazing job. Yo, yeah, we know what over 40 look like. Imagine LeBron will have 700 points in the 40 in over league.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And those that are watching, you know what the over 40 league looks like. Yes. LeBron is doing an amazing job, thinking about it that way. Yes, we go to the 40 in over league every Tuesday, and I'm not even exaggerating. He will have 700 points to average 396 points
Starting point is 00:11:07 in the over 40 league. And another thing that's to blame that you guys talked about earlier on in the show, but we didn't really mention it today, is the amount of money that's involved in sports. How much these players are getting paid and how that affects their motivation, their want to that you were saying. Basketball has sort of turned in a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:26 to what people hated and still do hate about boxing, right? People managing their careers and managing their amount of money that they make and their longevity. So Mo, how do- Without competing. Without competing. Don't leave that out.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Without competing, yeah. So Mo, how does Adam Silver, how does the MBA, PA, the owners manage that phenomenon moving forward? I think the first thing Adam Silver, he has to do is try to attack the guaranteed money, because like, and it's gonna come down to them realizing or them making their point
Starting point is 00:12:02 and trying to prove it with stats to say, hey man, when you didn't participate, this connected to TV ratings going down, disconnected to fans wanting to come to the stadium, disconnected to us not being able to sell products. And I think that they're going to try to attack guaranteed money in some capacity. And they're going to say,
Starting point is 00:12:19 hey, in order for you to make the money, there's a certain number of plays that you have to play per game or a certain number of games that you have to play. And I think it's going to be the same thing with the owners because the owners are saying, hey, man, you know, back in, I think it was probably seven years ago, five, six, seven years ago, whenever they made this new CBA, they were saying, hey, you know, we want to participate in the TV revenue. And you remember people were making, you know, maybe five, 10, 15 million dollars a day And once they start participating in the TV revenue, guys start making $40, $50,
Starting point is 00:12:48 and $60 million. And I think they just thought that guys would play. But I think on another note when this came up, I thought about, man, people need to go back to like $40, $50, and $60 million is not a lot of money. And guys are gonna try to preserve that as long as they can. And sometimes that goes against what we wanna see. But I'm from the hood, I understand. Like if I could make 50 million for five more years
Starting point is 00:13:14 and I had to do it by sitting out or whatever I had to do, load management, pause, whatever it is, like I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying? I would get it. But I understand the criticism that they get from the fans. As far as this is concerned, Mo is absolutely right. It's not gonna mess up this generation. Not make the next five, seven, eight years,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but it's gonna fuck it up for the people, the kids that are 13, 14, 12, 11, 11 through 16 now. Because Mo is right. I'm not paying you guaranteed money and y'all niggas is being lackluster and not performing. It's kind of, and I'm not saying they're gonna do it like the NFL where you gotta do all these incentives to get extra money, but it's gonna be based upon your play.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's certain things in people's contract now. Like I remember watching something with Jermaine O'Neal where he was saying that he retired because part of his contract, and Zion has something similar, I don't know exactly how it goes. So a weight clause. Yeah, and it was body fat,
Starting point is 00:14:09 because Jermaine O'Neal had to have only 8% body fat, and he said he got tired of doing that, and he was like, no, I'm good, I made enough money, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, like Trish said, Zion has that in his contract. Yeah. And there's gonna be things like that
Starting point is 00:14:24 to where it gets worse than just body fat. You can't, because at the end of the day, if you say that you're hurt, how is somebody gonna dispute if you're hurt or not? So you got the team doctor saying that you're all right, but your personal doctor saying that you're not all right. I don't know how it's gonna go. Mo made a good point.
Starting point is 00:14:44 But like I said, I don't have to answer, but it's definitely gonna be attacking the guaranteed money. And that's the only way they're gonna win. Right now, like it's so bad. They're juggling around all type of shit. They talking about thinking of cutting it to 10 minute quarters. And it's fucking going crazy right now.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I was looking today, they like, are they talking about, definitely what they talking about is this, the NCAA tournament, instead of making it two halves, making it 10 minute quarters. And then they saying the NBA may make it 10 minute quarters. What, yo bro, this shit is getting wild.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's getting wild, bro. You're getting more money for less work. And I think the answer to this, the solution to this, cause like what Killa was saying, you're definitely gonna have to start thinking about the consistency of do we pay these people guaranteed money if they're not guaranteed gonna play?
Starting point is 00:15:35 And I think the answer is gonna come back to Saudi Arabia, just like what is happening in boxing. Somebody is gonna come in and try to take it if they don't switch it up, because it's like, you gotta get people to compete. What happened, I don't think it could happen, but somebody's definitely gonna try to make their own league and get the money.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I know they was raising money to start another league, but I could see your excellency in them coming in and getting a part of that that and starting their own league, putting a lot of money behind it. Yeah, I think what's fascinating too, as I was looking at another stat earlier today, is that if you look at the salary cap 20 years ago, the salary cap for one team was $44 million
Starting point is 00:16:19 LeBron James' first year. Steph Curry makes $56 million by himself right now. That is crazy. So I don't know how you expect the motivation to stay the same when the money has gone up so much in the last 20 years. I guess just to follow up on that, Mo, do you think that if Kobe was around playing today, there was any amount of money
Starting point is 00:16:42 that would get his motivation to go down? There was any amount of money that would get his motivation to go down? I know that. And I don't want to take Kobe's mentality or like this hypothetical situation and say Kobe will be doing something that somebody else isn't.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like at the end of the day, it's business. And the only way to get people to perform accordingly is to have their interests aligned. And when your interests are aligned, when you perform, you get paid. When you don't perform, you don't get paid. And that's the conflicting thing. It has nothing to do with the money. The core issue is the core interests aren't aligned.
Starting point is 00:17:13 These guys get paid for sitting on the bench and we have to do it based upon the contracts that we sign. And so the owners are saying, okay, we have to get our get back. So I don't wanna, I wanted to respect you and say the Kobe situation, I think he would play just because that's his mentality. But let's also please take into consideration
Starting point is 00:17:32 56 million is a lot of money. And when you're a guy who you can't just walk out the league and go make 56 million anywhere. And so if I have to, you know, for an angle a couple more years, but this comes back to interest need to be aligned. That's the core issue. Yeah. I this comes back to interest need to be aligned. That's, that's the core issue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I like that concept that interests have to be aligned. So this is really a problem for the people making the contracts and they have to go back and start putting these things in writing, which is letting us know that the NBA just giving out bad contracts. And as the employer, you know, you gotta make better contracts because the employees are just saying, hey, in my contract, I get paid regardless. So I'm gonna live like regardless
Starting point is 00:18:13 because I have it in writing that I get paid no matter what. And that's something that gotta be changed up in the paperwork. I know the agents won't like that. I know the, you know, the basketball players won't like it, but the fans would greatly enjoy it. Because now when you go to San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:18:30 you know you're gonna see this team play, you know everybody's gonna be playing if they can play. That's what you get when you're watching football that you don't get when you're watching basketball anymore. Because people are just deciding, I could play more years if I play less games. Yeah. Yeah, good point.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Moving forward, more NBA news came out yesterday. This one was somewhat shocking to me. So Milwaukee Bucks player Bobby Portis has been suspended 25 games. There's only 35 games left in the season for taking a banned substance. But the context around this is really, really interesting. According to the reporting, Bobby Portis took what he
Starting point is 00:19:13 thought was a painkiller that was called Toradol from his assistant. It was some other substance called Tramadol, which used to be an okay substance, but was banned last spring. He gets popped 25 games. That's $3.6 million that he's going to miss. Mo, do you think this is worth a 25 game ban? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:39 When I see he was taking trims in the hood, they call him trims. I said, my man Bobby Porter's getting high. I'm saying. Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 You know, trims is the same. Yo, Mo, Mo. Mo, Mo. I know a Toradoll. Explain what kind of drug this is. I don't know what kind of drug this is. Oh, you talking about Toradoll or a Trimadol? I you talking about Toreador or Trimadol? I know Toreador.
Starting point is 00:20:08 What is Trimadol? Trimadol is basically like a mild version of like a Percocet or something, right? And so I run a drug and recovery program. And so when guys urinate and they do a drug test, Trimadol doesn't always show up on a drug test. So really, Trems, it's a painkiller, but it isn't classified or it wasn't classified as a narcotic.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So this is in like the recovery community. This is what people use in order to get high rather than like Percocets or Oxy's and stuff like that. So when I seen it, being that it was a mild version of a painkiller, I was thinking, I was like, yo, this dude getting high. And then when he said he got it from his assistant,
Starting point is 00:20:47 you can just walk to the doctor and go get toradol. You don't need to take somebody else's prescription. You know what I mean? So it made me just raise an eyebrow. So then I started doing my little research on him. He seems like a good guy, so I don't wanna put that on him, but I was just laughing and thinking that my man was getting high.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And when I heard his explanation, I took something from my assistant. That's usually like, I got here. See what had happened was. Yeah. Like, it's like that show Cops, where they pull that guy over. He's got drugs in his pocket. And they're like, where did you get these drugs?
Starting point is 00:21:14 He's like, these aren't my pants. It's like, OK, if that's your explanation, if that's what you're rolling with, OK. And I think I'm glad you said that, Mo. You definitely don't need to be taking somebody else's pills. Just for the record, anybody watching this, that is a very dangerous thing to do. People are prescribed drugs based on their body.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Don't ever let somebody give you their pills and say, hey, take one of these. You just don't know. That's crazy to think about. So I was going to make a joke, but this is not a joke. It matter. Bobby Portis, you can't be taking other people's pills. You're way too rich to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:21:56 What you think, Cam? I don't see the problem. I just looked at the fucking medicine after Motown. It's a painkiller. He ain't doing shit to jump out the gym. He ain't eat a Canelo steak sandwich. He wasn't in the Dallas Cowboy locker room in 92. Who was the Canelo steak sandwich?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, what is that? Shit, he got caught when he got caught with the steroids. He said he ate a bad steak. You know what, that's why I don't really fuck with Canelo. I fuck with Canelo, but he got caught when he got caught with the steroids? He said he ate a bad steak, you know? You know what can... That's why I don't really fuck with Canelo. I fuck with Canelo. But he got caught using steroids and he blamed it on the steak. He's like, oh, it was in the steak.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I ate. Word? So that's why I say a Canelo steak sandwich. Singin' mad when I say it, because he's a big Canelo fan. I like Canelo, but he got an asterisk near all his fights, because he blamed his steroids. He got caught, he blamed it on something his chef gave him. It was in a steak. They tried to disguise that shit in a steak.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You know what I'm saying? So that's why I said it wasn't a Canelo steak. Because some cows get pumped with steroids is what he was trying to say? I don't know what I was... Yeah, that's basically what he's saying. Look, for me personally, once you... You got an asterisk next to everything
Starting point is 00:23:02 once you get caught with that shit. To me, with steroids, I'm talking about like, I still can't blame Barry Mons because maybe his doctors, they ain't catch the nigga. When Alex Rodriguez and all niggas come out, like yeah, pardon me, I was taking it. Ryan, you put on a good performance, but you was taking it.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Once you do that for me, I may watch this shit, but I don't necessarily respect it. So when I'm looking at this medicine, after Mo explained that for me, I may watch this shit, but I don't necessarily respect it. So when I'm looking at this medicine, after Mo explained it to me, I wanna just do some research on it. It's to stop pain. It isn't to increase or enhance your skills or athleticism or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Now, it's Mace, right? Absolutely, just don't be taking pills. I don't get it. Can't be ordered, but this will more make you drowsy or not perform well or anything like that. So I do think that maybe a five game suspension or something like that, but 25 is definitely harsh. I think Adam Silver and them niggas just mad
Starting point is 00:23:57 at what's going on and taking shit out on Bobby Portis and whoever the fuck else gonna fuck up the rest of the season. Yo, give back all the money we can save. So I know that Milwaukee pays, I'm just exaggerating, but at the end of the day, I do think this is severe for what he got caught with. Yeah, it's crazy, because Miles Bridges
Starting point is 00:24:15 had a 10-game suspension. You know, Kevin Porter Jr., no game suspension. So it's just odd, especially... And what did they get caught with? Domestic violence. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so, I mean, you've got... Bobby they get caught with? Domestic violence. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so, I mean, you've got... Bobby ain't heard nobody what his self.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Exactly, exactly. And I think the thing that's really interesting and bullshit to me is that Tramadol wasn't a banned substance until last spring. So, they didn't have a problem with it until just a second ago, and now it's the last third of the season, you're essentially out. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And why is that? Why did they add this to it if it's just a pa ago and now it's the last third of the season, you're essentially out. And why is that? Why did they add this to it if it's just a painkiller? Probably because they feel like it's on the borderline of opioids. I don't know. I mean, you're obviously more experienced in this mode than me. Yeah, it's probably a gateway to it. No, that's the exact reason.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Just I like when dudes go into recovery, they smoke K2 or spice or other type of alternatives that alter your mind. The NBA just probably caught up to it. And so here we go. Here's the giveaway. I'm not putting this on Bobby Porter's, so I'll preface this with that.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Notoriously, Toradol is a shot for painkillers, right? Anybody who's ever said they had Toradol before, it comes in shot form. So there's no reason to take anybody's pills. You know what I'm saying? There's never a reason for you to take a pill thinking that it's the same thing as Toradol. They don't have any same thing.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And what I am saying is that, like, the NBA has caught up in saying dudes wanna get high, and they just found alternative ways to get high. And that's what I think that this was in some regard. So, what Mo is really saying is Bobby's getting doped up. That's what he's trying to say. But have we seen Bobby Portis? Bobby Portis doesn't look like a guy who wants downers.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Bobby Portis is an amped up guy. Like, he's one of the hearts and souls of Milwaukee. I don't see him... I mean, that's just me. I don't see him abusing a painkiller. I know he's dealing with an elbow issue. Have you ever seen him outside the arena? No. Me neither, so we don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:26:09 We don't know. We don't know. I give him... I'm just fucked with Moe, but Moe... See, Moe, a lot of people don't know that Moe actually works in this field, so he has a lot of knowledge on what these things are. Um, so I'm gonna take Moe and his word, and he knows better than me.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I was just saying, after doing a little bit of homework on it, it doesn't seem like it's gonna enhance his basketball game but like Mace also said, maybe a gateway. Definitely. Yeah, I look at it like Adam Silver just, you ever seen somebody, they get slapped by one person and somebody else start laughing and they take it out on the person that's laughing?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. The NBA got a lot going on. They just said, we're gonna take it out on the person that's laughing. The NBA got a lot going on. They just said, we're gonna take it out on you, Bobby. They don't think you like that. Well, and Milwaukee right now in fifth place, I think they're two games out of being in the playing tournament. So Mo, how does this impact things for Milwaukee
Starting point is 00:26:58 in your estimation as they're going down the stretch? 25 of their 35 games are gonna be without a guy who's like I said, the heart and soul of their 35 games are gonna be without a guy who's, like I said, the heart and soul of the team. He's one of the leading candidates for sixth man of the year. No, it impacts him greatly. I thought about that. I said, man, with him not being in a rotation in some capacity,
Starting point is 00:27:18 does that make them fall or push them towards the bottom of the East in competing? You know what I mean? So it's going to significantly impact them, especially around the basket and somebody who's typically like the energy or the force of your team or one of the forces of your team, it's not going to bode well.
Starting point is 00:27:36 So hopefully they stay in the top eight, hopefully they get into playoffs and hopefully he comes back. I don't know if they'll allow him to practice where he could stay in game shape and stay in rhythm with those guys, but hopefully he comes back and I don't know if they'll allow him to practice where he could stay in game shape and stay in rhythm with those guys, but hopefully he comes back and they make something. I think it's all a conspiracy. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 00:27:53 The moment I heard it, I'm thinking about it right now. They're trying to make sure that the Knicks get out of their first round or second round so that KD can come to the Knicks. I just, I could just smell the conspiracy. What? You think this is all designed to get Kevin Durant to the Knicks?
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's all a big picture here, it's all a big picture. My goodness, what do you think? Wouldn't you love that? I would love it, I would love it. How is that gonna work though? I think the Knicks are just fine in terms of their roster by themselves. I don't think they need another wing.
Starting point is 00:28:30 What do you think, Cam? Like, how do you think this impacts Milwaukee for the rest of the season? This big Bobby Porsche is a big part of their team. Definitely big for us. We'll see, man. Milwaukee's been up and down all season long. They actually won without him last night.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But we'll see what happens the rest of the season. But we're not gonna act like Bobby Portis is an important part of this team. He definitely is. Yeah, and just for those that are listening, the Knicks should be like third right now, right? Yep. So if you got the Milwaukee Bucks that are now fifth, if you
Starting point is 00:29:06 take Paul this out for 25 games, they're going to drop back. So then they end up playing one of those teams that end up meeting the Knicks and that would probably be a harder team to play later on in the season. I mean, in the playoffs. It's a good point. So let's go to break when we come back, who might be on the move in relation to this Bobby Portis news, as well as how Milwaukee does in the playoffs. Stay tuned, we'll be right back after this.
Starting point is 00:29:42 The NBA is back in action. Minnesota plays Houston tonight. Houston's one of the teams that Mace is looking forward to watching all throughout the home stretch of the season in terms of their contention. Jalen Green has been a scoring monster this season. His points are set from underdog at 21 and a half. Are you going higher or lower?
Starting point is 00:30:00 I'm gonna go with the underdog. I'm gonna go with the underdog. I'm gonna go with the underdog. I'm gonna go with the underdog. I'm gonna go with the underdog.. His points are set from underdog at 21 and a half. Are you going higher or lower, Mase? He said Jalen Green? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:13 21 points. I'm gonna go, Paul is lower. It's against Anthony Ivoise. He gonna have to play a lot of defense. Yeah, Paul is lower. It's against Anthony Ivers, he gonna have to play a lot of defense. Yeah, he is. Higher or lower, Cam? Not that he's not possible or capable.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I like Jalen Green, man. I like what he's really been doing, man. I like Houston as a team, the coach. I like how they rebounded off last season by just missing the playoffs. They're looking really good. I'm gonna go higher than 21, man. I'm gonna go higher. Last time we saw Anthony Edwards,
Starting point is 00:30:52 he was getting his groin right. His point prop is set against the Houston Rockets at 40 and a half points, rebounds, and assists against Houston's Stout defense. Are you going higher or lower, Kayle? How many? 40 and a half, PRA, points, rebounds, and assists combined. Yeah, I'm going higher.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Higher. I'm going lower. Lower? Why? I just think between that defense on Houston, they're not gonna let him go that crazy. He'll get 30, but I don't got him getting 10 rebounds. Not with A-Man Johnson and all of them. Yeah, and they've been trapping Anthony Edwards
Starting point is 00:31:32 pretty much all year. He's been saying that he's been getting frustrated. So, that's a good call. Yeah, not that he can't get it, but when you look at that team on pause in Houston, just like you just said, they're gonna be double teaming them. Take the ball out of his hand. Make somebody else on the team win the game.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That would only make sense. Why would you let Anthony Edwards get 40 and you got all this defense right here? You got Brooks, you got Aiman Johnson, you got Green, you got Van Fleet swiping at the ball, Paws. You know? Making it uncomfortable for him. Things are also getting really uncomfortable in Milwaukee, like we just said right before the break.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Bobby Portis out 25 games due to a banned substance, getting popped for that. Giannis has been in the news pretty much his entire career is putting the pressure on Milwaukee. Rumors came out yesterday that if Milwaukee doesn't have a deep run, Giannis could be on the move. And we're seeing this time and time again, players that we thought were gonna stay
Starting point is 00:32:27 their whole career somewhere. LeBron James, Luca, KD. Now they're gone, hardened. So Mo, do you think Giannis sticks around in Milwaukee, does the whole Steph and Kobe thing, or do you think at some point, and maybe soon, he'd be on the move? I personally believe that they should deal him while they can get something for him.
Starting point is 00:32:50 You know I guess we've seen this with other teams where they have all these iterations of trying to bring players in and trying to team up people with you. Then it gets to a point to say man at what point why a guy still has, I think Yannis is like 30 or 31 years old, that you can shop him, bring in some younger guys and try to rebuild for the future. I think that it becomes like this bad thing, sort of like what the Jets did, where you're chasing a championship
Starting point is 00:33:19 and you're trying to assemble a bunch of pieces of guys who had like great years in their careers at certain points. And I think that at some point you just have to get back to just rebuilding the team and just realize that, hey, we had a moment, we had a championship with them, but somebody else has value in them and I can get some draft picks or some other players. And so I think at some point he ends up getting shot.
Starting point is 00:33:40 After I seen Luca go on, I just realized that, anything is fair game. Yeah, I think when you hear players of this caliber, getting shot after I seen Luca go on. I just realized that, you know, anything is fair game. Yeah. I think when you hear players of this caliber, especially on the caliber of, um, when it comes to Yanis talking even remotely close, like he's not satisfied pause with this team, you've got to do something right away or Dillam right away. Exactly. Like you said, because it becomes a great problem to the organization
Starting point is 00:34:06 when your greatest player has not bought into the system. It could only go downhill from there. So like you said, trade them while you can get something. And this is just going to be extremely hot summer pause. I think a lot of people are going to be on the move this summer. Do you think then that they'll retool? Because if you move Yonis, you gotta at least evaluate
Starting point is 00:34:27 moving Damien Lillard as well, no? Yeah, I think that's part of what has to happen, because me being a person that frequent to Milwaukee, Milwaukee is a blue-collar city, so they like people that play hard, people that are going to show up, do their job all the time. They're not really with no diva attitude.
Starting point is 00:34:51 That's not the city for a diva attitude. Yeah. And Yannis has been saying it multiple times, like, hey, if you guys don't surround me with winners and that's why they traded for Drew Holiday, that's why they traded Drew Holiday for Damian Lillard, he just continues to apply the pressure in the media. Cam, what do you think? You think Giannis sticks around or do you think he's headed somewhere else? If I was Giannis, I wouldn't want to stick around.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. To me, Giannis is far from a diva. Giannis is available. That nigga's tough, you know. It's just teams, certain teams, when, you know, when he... The year before he won the championship, certain teams figured him out, because he was just going downhill doing what he wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So they started putting two, three people in front of him. And if people are gonna do that, he needs to surround himself with people who's gonna be able to shoot. If you got Yannis one-on-one, and he's at the three-point line, nine out of ten times is one dribble, two steps, he's at the basket unless you double-team him.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And if you don't have the right people around him to help him win, then he isn't gonna be there. I know he was being kind of funny, but I took it into seriousness when he's like, when Luka got traded to the Lakers, he was like, yeah, I want all the European players to go to big markets. I want Luka to go to L.A. I want Jokic to go to big markets. I want Luka to go to LA. I want Djokic to go to New York.
Starting point is 00:36:09 We know that's gonna happen. He was just naming European players to go to big city markets. And some people thought he's funny, but I'd look past that, like maybe he's not laughing. He's saying that I'll take it as European players would get more eyes on them if they were in these bigger cities, in these bigger markets., y'all, in LA with Luca, when LeBron
Starting point is 00:36:30 wants to leave or retire. That would be sensational. Secondly, we've seen the shenanigans, the niggas, the NBA, and Milwaukee Bucks pulled last year when they had a winning record. Fired their coach and got Doc Rivers right out of ESPN and said, Doc, go figure this shit out. And that wasn't successful. last year, when they had a winning record, fired their coach and got Doc Rivers right out of ESPN and said, Doc, go figure this shit out.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And that wasn't successful. Like Trista said, you get Damian Lillard over there. That hasn't been working out. It isn't even like they're in the top three, four, five Cs in the East. It hasn't been working out. And you got a man who won a championship already, and he's saying we were supposed to build
Starting point is 00:37:02 off that championship, not decline. I wouldn't be surprised if he left it all. And Mo, you made a great point. If you feel that he's leaving, get what you can get for him now, because it seems like when this contract's up, if they don't turn things around quickly, he's out. Yeah, and if I'm agreed, if I'm Milwaukee,
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm taking a hard look at, okay, does Yannis really wanna be here? Like if Yannis doesn't wanna be here, we can't wait for him to say he doesn't wanna be here because we saw what the Sacramento Kings got for De'Aaron Fox. They got Zach Levine and one first round pick and a bunch of like second round picks for De'Aaron Fox?
Starting point is 00:37:39 That's crazy. When Damien Lillard wanted out, we only wanna go to Miami, I don't want to go anywhere else. And you've got that agent games. And then you see the rest of the team sort of circle around. They know that they can apply pressure. They know that they've got the leverage because the star wants out.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And so the team that that star is on is sort of vulnerable. They can't get everything that you could get if you could just trade a star when they don't want to leave. So, yeah, I think you're right. I think that's absolutely facts. Like, if you do that, you should just get rid of Yannis now. You get rid of Dame now. And figure it out. Probably get rid of Kuzma now as well
Starting point is 00:38:13 and start to rebuild, accumulate picks, and do what Houston did. That's what happened when you don't re-sign his brother. Pfft. -♪ Pfft. -♪ BOTH LAUGHING Keep the family together. This is new ownership. This is not the same ownership when they won the championship.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So the new ownership is not abiding by those old rules. That's probably how the brother wasn't there. So when I was saying Diva, that's what I was speaking of. That's how owners see it. When the star don't want to be there, they can't say he has a point. They mark it as a diva. Yeah. You know what this is? It's like the motorcycle with the little thing on the side,
Starting point is 00:38:53 the seat. You know that as you gotta get that motorcycle. And the extra helmet. That man Rob enjoyed. Oh, goodness. All right, let's move forward. More news, incredibly sad news actually. Victor Weminiyama, who's probably gonna be the face
Starting point is 00:39:15 of the league very, very soon. Out of nowhere, injury news comes out for him. He's done for the season with something called deep vein thrombosis. Is that a something called deep vein thrombosis. Is that a pause? Deep vein thrombosis. Yeah, deep vein. Deep vein thrombosis pause.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Blood clots in his arm. He's going to have to be on blood thinners probably six months, which means you can't play basketball. If you get a cut, you pretty much bleed out. So he's done. So Mo, if you're the San Antonio... What? Yes?
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's crazy. Yeah. You get a bloody nose. You can't get cut on the basketball floor. So Mo, if you're the San Antonio... What? Yes? That's crazy. Yeah. You get a bloody nose. You can't get cut on the basketball floor. That's why they do that. Yeah. So anyway, Mo, if you're the San Antonio Spurs, what do you do? Because you just traded for De'Aaron Foxx,
Starting point is 00:39:58 and you've got your draft pick and the Atlanta Hawks draft pick in a stacked draft class. Do you still try to figure out a way and do a playoff push because there are three and a half games out of the play-in, or do you shut it down now and try to get Cooper flag? Oh, oh, good question. Ooh, good question.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Being that you can get Cooper flag, I didn't take that into consideration. I might strategically shut it down just to try to go get Cooper flag. I didn't I didn't take that in consideration. I might strategically shut it down just to try to get Cooper flag and give more pieces because they got my young guy Steph Castle. He's from Yukon and I love him very much. And he's you know he's a rising star in the league. Sad to hear that about Wimby. You know he felt like he was picking up steam and he'll eventually be the face of the league. But I would probably shut it down. I didn't know you were gonna ask a question like that, but I would probably shut it down just to get Cooper flag, knowing that I'll have young guys to build with
Starting point is 00:40:50 for a number of years. And that isn't even guaranteed, but I would shut it down to at least try to get him. Oh, man. I think when it comes to, to like, just being a seven-footer and pausing and taller than that, it just seemed like they always have some kind of freak injury like that we don't understand.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I hope this is not the case. Cause he was going in such a great direction and it looked like, like you said, he would be the face of the league. Something like this can really go the wrong way. So, I'm gonna be in prayers for him. Definitely for this. Would you shut it down? Would you shut De'Aaron Fox down,
Starting point is 00:41:35 who's been dealing with injury issues pretty much this entire year and playing with young guys? Or you just build on things? I wouldn't. I would build off this. You could bring Castle into Superstar, man. You can bring even Fox into playing at a much high level. You know how you have your star going, and these other people can become stars.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So when he comes back, now you have three young stars instead of shutting it down. If you shut it down and you get Cooper Flagg and you end up Christian Leightner, you're gonna be really upset, you end up Christian Leightner, you're gonna be really upset, you know? Because I just don't know. I saw Koopa Flagg, he looks like the real deal,
Starting point is 00:42:16 but I wouldn't trade in the three stars that I have now for Koopa Flagg. That's what I'm basically trying to say. Wait, just to follow up before Cam gives his point, so you think a team should just never tank no matter how, like, the promise of a prospect is, because you just really don't know how it's gonna work out? No, I'm basically saying,
Starting point is 00:42:37 if you tank this San Antonio team, right, there is times where you should tank, right? If you're able to get LaMelo Ball, you tank. If you're able to get Michael Jordan, you tank. If you're able to get LaMelo Ball, you tank. If you're able to get Michael Jordan, you tank. If you're able to get LeBron James, you tank. But if you're able to get Cooper Flagg, I'm not sure if I would tank that knowing that Castle could be a star, knowing that Fox can come back into that real superstardom.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I wouldn't tank two of my own stars to get a new star. I don't think that makes sense. Putting LaMelo Ball next to LeBron James, and who was the other player? Oh yeah, it was- Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, yeah. Putting LaMelo Ball in the same category as those two was wild.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Cam, what would you- LaMelo is one of them guys. You probably just don't know it yet. I think Lamello has, this is a contentious topic, but Lamello is bubblegum buckets to me. He's not a winning player. Bubblegum buckets? What does that mean? That means like...
Starting point is 00:43:38 I like this kind of argument. Yeah, stat padding. He's a guy who, he's not a particularly efficient player. He's a guy that gets you, I don't know, he probably shoots 12 for 40 or something like that. A lot of foul baiting, a lot of excitement. He's a guy that's fun to watch. He's an exhibition player.
Starting point is 00:43:56 He's a Rocker Park kind of player, but I don't know that you're building a franchise around the Mellow Ball. And I personally wouldn't. You got a huge, you got a huge view. What do you mean, a huge view? If you put LaMelo Ball on L.A., you know what kind of terror he would be?
Starting point is 00:44:14 He would get shipped out. LeBron James would say, I don't want his ass here. That's... LeBron James wants the ball. LaMelo wants the ball. He can't play with LeBron James. Are you freaking kidding me? Oh, my goodness. Cam, what do you think San Antonio should do?
Starting point is 00:44:29 I like that LaMelo ball point on both you guys' side, because if he's in the right situation, cool, but I think Trista's right also. He can't lead a team by herself to a franchise, and I don't think he'd do it with Cooper Flagg, but if he was in LA, it might be dazzling. When the Lakers played Charlotte the other night, do it with Cooper Flagg, but if he was in LA, it might be dazzling. When the Lakers played Charlotte the other night,
Starting point is 00:44:51 the mellow ball kept setting screens so Luca got on him. And every time Luca came, he started going crazy, because he knew Luca couldn't guard him, he was too slow. That's an interesting topic, the mellow ball, because I think both y'all have some great points. For San Antonio, they're not going nowhere this year, and there's no way to obviously take the NFL and the NBA two different things.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Even if you come in with the worst record, that don't mean that you're getting the first pick. So you sit there and tank, and then still don't get the first pick. And then it's like, damn, we tanked and didn't get the first pick. It's a hard question. I think that Trish made some great points that De'Aaron Fox has been hurt anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I'm not saying send him, but they're not making the, even if they make the plan, they're not gonna make the playoffs without Wimby. And Wimby's not there. So I would play De'Ari Fox if he's healthy. If he has a little bit of injury, I would sit him down and let your man Castle start to flourish, get some more minutes.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I'm not saying he's not getting the minutes now, but let it be his team the second half or the one third of the season left and let him go crazy so he can have some experience and say, it's my team, we name not when, but he'll be the first option. They're not going nowhere without Wimby. Secondly, this injury that Wimby has is very serious. I'm glad that they caught it before they got it.
Starting point is 00:46:14 When it comes to blood clots, it's not a game. Like Trish said, once you're on blood thinners, what happens is when you get blood clots, they give you blood thinners and it takes four to six months for the blood clot to go away. And that means it's thinning out your blood throughout your body to get these blood clots out your body.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And if you get cut, your blood is so thin, like right now if you cut yourself, you know your blood comes out like it's regular blood. Your blood is so thin that your blood is just flowing out sporadically to where you could bleed out. So this is very serious. And Blood Clots in general is serious. We actually seen Chris Boss have to retire before this.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You know what I'm saying? So I'm glad they got this on Wendy early and hopefully they can figure this out and he'll be back after everything goes right. I think the thing that's really interesting in terms of like what the Spurs should do. I believe in interesting in terms of, like, what the Spurs should do, I believe in luck in terms of, like, franchises. I think a team like New York has,
Starting point is 00:47:11 generally speaking, terrible luck. I know my team, the Portland Trailblazers, if there's a big man on the board, we should just never take them, because historically, when there's a big man, they always crumble. We can't figure it out. You know, Greg Oden, Sam Bowie, the list goes on and on. Yeah, y'all missed out on Jordan and Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Y'all gotta be sick. But go ahead. Yeah. So, in terms of... It's facts. In terms of lucky organizations, I don't think there's a luckier organization in the NBA as it relates to draft picks than the San Antonio Spurs. I think you could actually say, if you wanna look at, like, an NFL comp, I guess what Green Bay has
Starting point is 00:47:49 in terms of, you know, generational or franchise, you could say just franchise, quarterbacks, right? You go from Favre to Aaron Rodgers, and I think the jury's probably still out on Jordan Love, but people are high on him. The San Antonio Spurs, when David Robinson went down with a season-ending injury, they had like a 30% chance of winning the lottery, and then they ended up
Starting point is 00:48:10 getting Tim Duncan, and they ended up having these two perennial big man, the Twin Towers, for a generation. I think I could see that happening with the Spurs as well, because if you get Cooper Flag, and maybe they get Atlanta's pick, and that's the number one, but if you get your pick, and that's Cooper Flag, this is a team that's automatically a contender.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I don't know about that. I think because Cooper Flag, he's doing well at Duke, and he looked sensational with the Olympic team during practice before they went to the Olympics. But the reason why I say that, because me and Mace seen this movie, during practice before they went to the Olympics. But the reason why I say that, cause me and May seen this movie, called Christian Leighton.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Exactly. I'm not saying that he's gonna be Christian Leighton, hopefully he won't be. But Christian Leighton, let me tell you something, Kuba Rush ain't no damn Christian Leighton at Duke. Christian Leighton is God at Duke. He's God, my nigga. I watched Christian Leighton, I sat there and threw a God, my nigga. I watched Christian Leighton.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I sat there and threw a whole tantrum when he hit the turnaround jumper against Kentucky on Jamar Masburn and all that shit. Because Masburn is from Harlem. I was pissed about it. Cooper, even though he's a rookie, we know he's gonna be one and done. He is no Christian Leighton,
Starting point is 00:49:23 and Christian Leighton actually played with the real dream team. With them niggas, you know what I'm saying? Which he shouldn't have been on the team, but at least he was around to get that experience. And his NBA career was nowhere near what his college career was. And it's very underestimated his NBA career as well,
Starting point is 00:49:40 because he played about 11, 12, maybe 13 years, but he wasn't Cooper, pardon me, he wasn't Christian Leighton as Duke. And that's what I'm saying. So I'm not disagreeing with you. If we get a Cooper flag that we seen playing against Kevin Durant and Andrew Wiggins and Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James at the Olympics during that practice, and then the one we're seeing at Duke now,
Starting point is 00:50:00 I believe they're a competing contender. But you have to tend to realize when you get to the NBA, some people don't like that you getting all this attention. They'll be like, I can't wait to bust his ass. The one person that I've seen not have to go through that, and it's probably plenty of people, but it stands out LeBron James. All these NBA players was like,
Starting point is 00:50:16 this high school kid coming in here think he gonna do what he wanna do, dah, dah, dah, dah, boom. Yes, he started doing what he wanna do. We seen this just last season. Diana Taurasi said, there's gonna be a curve. Caitlin Clark and them and Angel Reese, they gonna have to sit there and like, and then take that long, Diana.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It was pretty quick. So we're not saying it doesn't happen. It does happen, but like I said, I actually seen the same movie and maybe it won't turn out to be the same. Yeah, and to your point, Killer, another thing that goes with that is if they get Cooper Flack, whose team is it?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Is it now on Cooper's Flack team? It's Wimby's team, right? And that's why we're speaking about the Christian Leighton effect, because when he was in Duke, he was the first option. When he got to the NBA, he wasn't the first option. And I don't know what Cooper Flagg looked like if he's not the first option,
Starting point is 00:51:18 because he definitely won't be the first option. He looked good on a team like Charlotte, though, Cooper Flagg. Now, that would be great. That would be a good look with him. Now you're talking. I think San Antonio like Charlotte though, Cooper Flagg. Now that would be great. That would be a good look with him. Now you're talking. I think San Antonio's one of them organizations
Starting point is 00:51:31 where everybody's ego gets toned down. You know, just my opinion. You know, I don't know Cooper Flagg that well. I don't know Wimby that well. But I don't know if Pop's coming back or what his situation is, but it just looks like... And like I said, if it's a new regime, it's a new regime, but everybody's ego, you gotta think about how, that you get a man who's a nobly to come off the bench,
Starting point is 00:51:53 man who starts everywhere, he could have started on that. You get a man who's a nobly to come off the bench, that takes a lot, pause, and it ended up working. But it doesn't seem like it's one of them places where it's ego-based, who knows? Like we said, we don't know what's gonna happen with popping a lawn. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Last topic, real quick, we're getting a lot of celebrity break-ins, like tons of them, I think. Joe Burrow, Travis Kelce, got Mike Conley, the Luca, list goes on and on. Guys are getting jewels and cash all stolen from them. Former Georgia quarterback Carson Beck and his girlfriend, Miami University, The Luka list goes on and on. Guys are getting jewels and cash all stolen from them. Former Georgia quarterback Carson Beck and his girlfriend Miami University player Hannah Cavinder.
Starting point is 00:52:33 They both got all their cars stolen. SUV, Mercedes, and a Lambo stolen down in Miami. What do we make of this, Mo? And how in the time of social media do you avoid getting got? Uh, yeah, I think this is, um... You know how people do crimes against certain people for the thrill of it? I think a lot of that is what happens to Carson Beck
Starting point is 00:52:57 and his girl. I know they are... They're social media superstars. I know Statt hates Carson Beck, by the way. Uh, shout out to Statt. Hopefully you get well. But lo and behold, I think it's more so that I think people find these people, they get a kick out of somebody who's famous or notable. But that just goes to show you just the younger generations, man. I feel old saying this, but I just come from a generation where you don't advertise your whole life.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And I think these younger people have grew up in a different generation. And you know, when I grew up, robbery was a thing. So you didn't do things to line yourself up, you know. It still is a thing. It still is a thing, Mo. But I know what you talking about, Mo. I definitely know what you talking about.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah, you're right. You can't advertise everything on these platforms because I did that just yesterday and people been hitting me up for all kinds of money. I'm like, bro, that was a skit. I don't, I really don't have the money. That was a skit. I mean, he drives a Subaru.
Starting point is 00:54:01 If he had money, he wouldn't drive a Subaru. Yeah, people been hitting me up. Hey, can I borrow 19,000? I said, what? You was just on TV talking about that, you know, you got survivors remorse. I said, you saw me and Cam laughing. Cam, tell them that was a joke.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I told you, I ain't got it. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care what people think. I worked hard. I'd use my 24 hours a day to practice my profession. And I'm not gonna apologize for it. If it was a skit for me, I told you I don't care
Starting point is 00:54:36 what you think. No. I can't help you. If you don't want to help yourself, I can't help you. I like helping people to help themselves, but sometimes nigg you don't wanna help yourself, I can't help you. I like helping people that help theyself, but sometimes niggas don't even wanna help theyself. You know what's crazy, Murr? It's funny that you said this.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Me and Bezo was riding here, and this girl called me and was like, yo, I'm homeless now. I don't even know. I don't know. No, no, she ain't say that. She say, yo, I'm stranded. I said, where you stranded?
Starting point is 00:55:09 She said, I'm just outside of the hotel. I said, where you gotta go? She's like, I don't know. I said, if you don't know where to go and how you stranded, that's not, stranded means you trying to do what she said. You don't have a ride there. Right, she's like, well, I'm homeless.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And I'm like, and this is gonna be a topic on Talk With Flea, what do you do when you sell pussy and it's not selling? Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm gonna save it, I didn't wanna do it with Murdo, but I just, as we was talking about it, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:55:43 You sell pussy and that's all. What's the next step? Would she want to be an extra-tition, she said? Well, she said cosmo-tition. Cosmo-tition, cosmo-tition? Yeah, cosmo. I said, I'm watching the course of grad school set. I said, you haven't put much thought into this.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You haven't, but I'm sorry, murder. If it was a skip for murder. Yeah, that. I'm stunned right now. Like, that just threw me so off guard. Especially to you, my pussy. What do you do if you're selling pussy and it's not selling?
Starting point is 00:56:17 That's a great question. You probably leave the industry. You gotta leave the industry. That's what I'm saying. What do you do? There are women, though, that go on OnlyFans, and they don't even get naked. They just, I don't know what they do. Yeah, it's a lot of programs out there.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Naked is one of the girls' panties that they walk. Socks. Feet. Stat says she got a feet page. What? No, she says somebody made it for her. It's not even her feet? No, she says her feet, but sometimes, some type of way they've been zooming in on her feet, some type of way, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah, you definitely, you're running the streets over. If you can't sell that. Yeah. Just come on. Just come on to church. You definitely gotta go to church. Yeah, man. You could probably go to church. You could probably go to some older white areas, really.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Like they are thirsty and they've got money and you just try to trap somebody. That's probably what they do. Well, this female I know pretty well. She travels and money just dried out, man. You know what I'm saying? Like when you go from state to state doing this, you know, this is a profession.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah, Trish, she's saying she's been everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. It's time to go to church. You gotta go to church. I've exhausted every option. It's dry, the well is dry. Yeah, but what I was saying was that, if it was a skip for me, and Trish, you can read that.
Starting point is 00:57:44 That's what she sent me. How much does that cost? What school is that? Tuition is $12,550. So she wanted that cash out right away. $100 for books and materials, $1200 for uniforms, $50. Total is $13,900.
Starting point is 00:58:03 So you sent it, right? No, this was all just on the way to work this morning. It was like, yo, stop calling me. You can't help yourself. Furthermore, I don't pay for pussy. I just can't do it. Now, if I want to pay you to leave, I'll do that. I'll look out for you.
Starting point is 00:58:21 A little sign here and there for the kids. I can't pay for the actual box. Let me get back to what we doing. I'll save this for you, a little sun hand there for the kids. You know, I can't pay for the actual box. Let me get back to what we doing. I'll save this talk for fleas. Oh, you're right. Rob Rees the thing. You know what I'm saying? There's a report out that just came out probably yesterday, and this happened December 19th,
Starting point is 00:58:40 the Jamerantz house got broken too. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know about this until yesterday because this happened in December. But what happened, look, I just don't understand that all these people who has $200 million plus $300 million deals, not included endorsements, it's just not somebody there 24 hours a day.
Starting point is 00:59:01 It's always somebody at my house when I'm not home, no matter what. Cause if niggas figure out your schedule, all they gotta do is figure out your work schedule, or your game schedule, or anything like that. I never leave, my house is never not nobody there. And I don't have $482 million. So I just, you get what I'm saying Mo?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. But I like my shit. My shit is all right. You know what I'm saying, Mo? But I like my shit. My shit is all right. You know what I'm saying? I'm not leaving nobody not in my crib. That's just never gonna happen. Now if y'all choose to come in there and take the consequences once you get in there
Starting point is 00:59:35 with whoever's in there, more power to you. But at the end of the day, these people have too much money to be leaving now. Now maybe they're thinking, I don't know everybody's living situation, but maybe they're thinking I'm in a gated community or I have a doorman or I have this. And that case is bigger than people just stealing.
Starting point is 00:59:55 If you're living in a subdivision or a condo or something where somebody's supposed to be looking after your residence, there's a conspiracy. Yes, that's a big conspiracy at the end of the day. You get residents? There's a conspiracy. Yes, that's a big conspiracy at the end of the day. You know, uh, in my crib in, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:09 one of my cribs in Florida, I got a gate. I got a nigga, you got to come in the gate and talk to him before they let you in. He let, um, the lady who cleans up in, and, uh, I didn't... He didn't call me this time. He said, oh, I always see her, and she always comes to clean up. I'm like, who told you I ain't get to argument
Starting point is 01:00:27 with that bitch last week in fire? And she ain't going postal. I don't give a fuck who it is. You're checking every time and call my phone. I don't care if it's my first cousin, my uncle, my aunt. You have to call. That is part of the policy living in this place. And I don't know where these players live, but even with that, I still keep somebody in my house.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So, smart enough, fellas. Smart enough. Don't leave. I'll say this. Yeah, I was... No, I was gonna add to it, man. You know, this summer generation is real mixy, too. And all the people who they travel in their houses and all the intermingling and parties throughout the house, those people are lining you up too.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And I don't even know if they even understand what lining up means. But these people clocking your moves, man. That's why these people get robbed. Yep, and lining up with Mo means they will set you up. Your friends. Or anybody that you think is cooler than what they are. Yeah, people jealous hanging around with you.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Make a call, hey, he's gone right now. You can go in. A lot of, even on Instagram, anything like that, I don't post where I'm at until I'm not there anymore. So, they'd be like, I'll sit there and be like, shit, I'll be in the home, home in the bed. I don't post where I'm at when I'm there. Yeah, in real time. That's foolish.
Starting point is 01:01:42 It's crazy. That's all the time that we have. Let us know in the comments what you think about today's show. Is Yannis on the move? I had an absolute blast this whole week. Trish, thank you for filling in, man. We gotta bring you back again soon, man.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Me and Murda been talking, we gonna figure this thing out. I love it. You're gonna come off that sweatshirt for me, right? I can wear that on the way back home? Or is that, that's yours? It don't fit you. It don't fit me, no. Yeah, I get you something.
Starting point is 01:02:08 All right, cool. Thank you for watching. Thank you for having me. Yo, Mo, good looking too, we appreciate you. You're amazing, Mo. Thanks so much for having us. You forgot to tell them that we seen each other at the championship.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Oh yeah, I forgot. Oh, and Nick, you didn't send the surprise for them. I had a surprise for you guys. What championship y'all see each other at? At the Ohio State one. Oh, Title X. Title, the only last surviving member of the show in Title X.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Wow. Whoa. Mo. Yo Trish. Trish, we was working on a deal, Trish. Trish, you hit it. The last of the last survivor, a title champ. The season started with me in Ohio State.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I brought the glory. Listen, man. That's how they got there. They wanted to get me a book back. He ain't coming to the game, you know, from high and dry, man. Nick, Nick, you got that up? Post it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 There it is. There's me at 16 with the braids. Oh, shit. Oh. All right. That was just, that was just the ones I could find. They weren't AI braids. They weren't the ones that- That's not you, Trish. That is, that was me. You was an Apache video
Starting point is 01:03:21 gangster bitch. That was my, that was my demo. That was the cover of my rap demo. That was the cover video gangster bitch. That was my demo. That was the cover of my rap demo. That was the cover of your demo? Yeah, I was violent. What was your rap name? Fate. To me, that looked like you from Spanish Harlem.
Starting point is 01:03:36 No, that was like I was white. So that was all I could really do was be Spanish. Because you looked Puerto Rican. Yeah, I did. Everybody thought. And I had the big ass hoop earrings. I tried to slick my shit back with Murray's hair grease. Oh, what's a do rag?
Starting point is 01:03:54 She put Murray's on her shit. You gotta come in one time like that. Yeah, I'll do it. You gotta just spray a little. Oh, let me ask you a question real quick. When did you snap out that face and say, I'm white? Let me ask you a question real quick. When did you snap out that face and say, I'm white? I started caddying in golf when I was like 16,
Starting point is 01:04:12 but I still had the braids then. And they bullied me mercilessly, those white guys. They were like, oh, you about to get pregnant. You just, you gotta have a bunch of babies, daddies. And then I had a full ride scholarship to college and I realized that, oh, Oregon's like a white state. Like, my friends, they're gone. And so then I caddied in Bannon Dunes in the summer,
Starting point is 01:04:32 and that was when it changed. It was fucking up my money. So I had to code switch a little bit. There you go. I ain't married that. The bottom line. It's the bottom line. Yeah, the complexion for the connection.
Starting point is 01:04:43 She went back to the complexion. Bottom line. Yeah, the complexion for the connection. She went back to the complexion. Bottom line matters. Listen, listen. Let us know in the comments what you think of the show. As always, it is what it is. Alright, y'all. Thanks for watching!

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