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Episode Date: June 14, 2024

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Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam, and today we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Good, everybody. Killer, what's good? Mo, what's up, man? What's going on, baby? I'm chilling, man.

What y'all got going on? What are you talking about? Eight in the morning, man. Breakfast, man. Egg McMuffin hey yo Murda yo people starting to say we never in the same place

at the same time we might be the same person yeah they saying you're a clone cause I'm not nobody said that you just made that up nobody said that Yeah, they're saying you're a clone, because I'm not. Nobody said that. You just made that up. Nobody said that.

Nobody said that. You just made that up. Nobody said that. Let me ask you a question, though. I don't know if you've seen it or not, but we made Complex's top list of funny people. Did you see that? Nah, I didn't see that.

The top funniest people. Yeah, we number 16, but it's like comedian, like Drewski's number one and Funny Marco and Desi Banks and shit like that. It's mad comedians on there. And we on the list. Funny Marco? Drewski? Yeah, they got us number 16.

I was like, damn, I wasn't even trying to be funny. I guess the truth be funny sometime, I guess. Niggas here lie so much. But shout out to Complex, man. I'm happy to make any list, I guess, man. I appreciate the love that y'all showing us, man. And thanks to the people who think that we're funny without trying to be funny. I appreciate that.

Yeah, well, good thing they'd say funny Marco and not another kind of funny. What? Time to change the list. Yo, you smoking today, nigga? You on some Flock this morning, huh? What are you talking about? Got back to the crib, you smoking that shit, huh, man?

Anyway, man, I didn't know if you seen the list, but yeah, we in the top 20. Anyway, man, I was just, I didn't know if you seen the list, but yeah, we in the top 20. But it's cool, I guess, because it isn't, you know, everybody else is pretty much comedians up there. I was like, Gillian Waller's on the list too, in the top 20. And outside of that, yeah, I mean, outside of that, I think it's people, reason I think it's dope is because we're really just being ourself, telling stories, saying how we feel about shit. And I don't try, the reason why I think it's dope for us

is because everybody else on the list is trying to be funny. Like that's their job, to be funny. Yeah. You know, a few- We're just telling the truth. Yeah, so. Not to complicate, I just brought that up,

I don't know if you know about it or not, I'm just finding out late last night. And I'll just add my two cents. I think it's dope. Y'all are funny to me. Like you said, they don't even try. They're literally just like this so y'all see their authentic selves. So congrats to y'all for sure. Thanks, man.

Of course. Okay. And then Maurice, how you feeling before we get into the questions? All is great, man. I never have a bad day when I come up here. It's all good. Life is good. Life is great. All is good.

Good, man. Dope. Agreed. Okay, so let's start with Tom Brady. So he was inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame this week. And the quote that he said that stuck with a lot of people, he said, the truth is you don't have to be special. You just have to be what most

people aren't consistent, determined, and willing to work for it. No shortcuts. So with what he said, what did you think of his quote? And then how do you guys feel about him being inducted this week? Maurice first. Uh, it's in par with, uh, with his career. And, um, I agree with him saying, uh, that you don't have to be special. I don't think that I was a special talent in my life. I really believe that. Just my success within sports just came from consistently working,

consistently going to the weight room, consistently hitting the track. And were people who were a little bit more talented than me, where they probably left their foot off the gas, I was able to just create so many habits that, you know, eventually transferred to the football field and brought me success. And if anybody knows him, when Drew Bledsoe got hurt, he was the guy who stepped in and he wasn't an all-star at Michigan. He was a very good player, but he wasn't nothing spectacular. And I think just being consistent over time, having good coaching,

with good Bill Belichick, you know, through circumstances, having great defenses, it just rings true with his story. Like, he didn't have, like, Michael Vick's speed. He didn't have some big, amazing arm where he was throwing the ball 70, 80 yards down the field that some attributes that other players have. And so his deal was knowing the game, being prepared and things of that nature. So I actually agree with it. And even in business right now, I'm not the smartest guy in the world. But, man, I wake up every day, five, five in the morning.

And just through consistency in business, I think that's how I've had success. So I would agree with him. and I think that most people probably could take something out of it. These guys will probably say the same thing in a music game. I'll be waiting to hear y'all of how that may translate to people with music in general. Y'all thoughts on it? Yeah, this is really a great

statement, and it's very eye-opening for even children that are watching that this is literally all you have to be. I mean, in a nutshell, and I think it was so profound that he would say something like this, like some people would say is a grasp on the obvious, but sometimes the obvious is the obvious thing that people are not doing. They're willing to work for it. Every day, they're willing to be consistent. I'm just better than I was yesterday. It doesn't mean that I'm phenomenal today, but every day I'm getting better. Every day I'm

working just to be a little bit, even it's a little bit better than yesterday and constantly doing that over time will just create so much space between you and your competitors in any field that you're working on. Some people are just a victim, like killers say, of the moment. And because they're victims of the moment, they just stay the same. It's not that they weren't talented. They just never got any better. They're still the same. And the people around them that end up like Tom Brady, they were just getting constantly better, constantly better, constantly faster, or constantly stronger. Whatever it is that they were working on.

And it just created so much space between them. And you look back and say, man, I remember me and this person was on the same level. I remember we were eye to eye. I remember, or I used, what's even worse than that is that when people say, man, I used to look up to this person. I know there's people like me and Killa and Mocha laugh about and be like, man, I used to look up to this person. I know there's people like me and Killer and Mo could laugh about it and be like, man, you remember? You used to think this person was the epitome of this thing, and now you're like, man, where are they now? So I definitely agree with this statement that Tom Brady has made.

Yeah, I don't really have too much more to add. You guys definitely summed it up very, very well. What I'll add to this is one thing. Tom Brady is the perfect example of when preparation meets opportunity. A lot of times you don't get the opportunity. And sometimes you may get the opportunity and not prepare for it. Or sometimes you're well prepared for it and don't get the opportunity. And sometimes you may get the opportunity and not prepare for it. Or sometimes you're well prepared for it and don't get the opportunity. What if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get hurt?

What if Drew Bledsoe played another five, six years? And we never would have got a chance to see how great Tom Brady is. This is a perfect example of preparation means opportunity and always stay prepared. So you guys summed it up really well. I don't have too much more to say outside of what you said. I thought you guys did great. But remember, man, always stay prepared

because you don't know when your opportunity is going to approach. I would love to just add to that. That's a great point. And like, if you stay ready, you don't got to get ready. I stand by that. That is why I've gotten even small opportunities that I've gotten that have grown into bigger opportunities. So, great advice. Shout out, Tom Brady, and congrats into being inducted.

Okay, so Saudi Arabia advisor Turki Alashik wants to buy out main boxing promoters and make one league. He wants to bring matchroom golden boy promotions and possibly others under one roof. The new league could be worth between $4 billion and $5 billion and rival UFC. Do you guys think that this is a good idea? How do you guys see this playing out? Maurice first. Well, I think two things about it. The first part of me is that there's something I love about small business and all these promoters being able to have their enterprises, have their fighters, have their camps. There's something that I do enjoy about that, right? But in the current system, I see a lot of people talk two things about boxing. They talk about boxing is corrupt, and they always talk about boxing not being able to put on premier fights

because certain people are aligned with top rank and then certain people are aligned with other promotion companies. And as a fan, you don't get the great fights. And when I look at those guys in Saudi Arabia, you see they've been, or wherever they're at, I don't know if I've messed up the actual destination, but all of those fights where Deontay Wilder just fights, actual destination, but all of those fights where Deontay Wilder just fights, these guys, their economic situation doesn't depend on fighters fighting, right?

And so I think with that, they can put on more cleaner fights or just match up who's supposed to be matched up and get guys paid the way they're supposed to get paid and take this American industry or this thing that's been a great American sport, bring it over there or put the sport on wherever, and you'll have a better product overall. So like the small businessman in me is fighting for like, or leaning more towards guys being independent and having autonomy. And then the other side of me is saying like, Hey, if they go over over there maybe boxing may not be

so corrupt maybe you may get the better fights or maybe you may get fights that you've always wanted to see sooner and you won't get guys fighting at the end of their careers and maybe everybody being elusive about not wanting to get a loss on a record won't mean as much because that's how the ufc is dana white makes sure that he pairs people together to fight. Yeah, I have a lot to say about this, but one of the first things that jumps out to me when I even hear of this news, even being in the making, is that could this be a part of what Floyd was doing over there all this time? You know, in the back shadows, could this be something that he's mysteriously over a part of or or ushering into the United States where everybody was just oblivious to what he was doing? And they're working on creating this league where all of the belts come together i mean you got the force sanctioning bodies and think about if all of these things come

together it'll be the first time that we can have legit world you you have legit world champions i know people use that but now you would not only have a legit world champion but oftentimes those fights doesn't get made because it's not enough money people are always searching for the money you hear guys like Lennon Ella be always talking about well boxing this is is about the money and it's not time for that fight yet because what they're really saying is they cannot find the money. Well, what this would do is present that money. We're talking about over $4 billion.

We will have money to see all the fights that we want to see, which means we will no longer be waiting for those fights. They will be happening faster, and a lot of the excuses will go. A lot of the excuses will have to be done away with because now not only do we have the money, but we have a community in which they will further push for those fights. So we would have got this fight with Devin Haney much faster, the guy this fight with Devin Haney much faster um Javante fighting all three of the other guys that we've been waiting for them to fight Earl Spence and um Terrence Crawford would have happened

probably like two years earlier and I I just think that that leads to a whole different league and and it will become a league like the nba it will become like that type of thing where you're gonna fight these many fights and then after you fight these people we're gonna push you up from 140 to 147 and everything will be more organized so i'm a i'm a firm believer of it and i and i agree they should do it there's more money and better fights. You can use that tag, but, you know, make sure you pay it is what it is. More money and better fights. And if you pump it up like that, Paul, everybody will look forward to that kind of league.

Yeah, both of you guys had great takes on it. Yeah, both of y'all had great takes on it. Y'all basically summed it up seriously because niggas is always making excuses not to fight. And I dig it. Y'all niggas want y'all money. I understand and so on and so forth. But the one thing that the guy did say or the statement that Stat read was was the rival of the UFC.

Because the UFC, you not waiting for no fights. Good fighters is fighting tonight. Two niggas beefing yesterday, they fighting tonight. Dumb niggas is not waiting. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Dumb niggas is fighting. Everything is about money over here, which I get it.

Your life's on the line. But at the end of the day, we see our niggas fighting more on Twitter and interviews, so on and so forth than the ring. So everything Mo said, everything May said was 100% correct. I totally agree with it because I'm almost at the point where certain shit, but I don't care no more.

When niggas be like, yo, what if Tevrence Crawford, I heard he about to fight Canelo in November, supposedly. I can't sit here year after year and go on supposedly what's supposed to happen and don't happen. What I will say is this. The reason why I think this will happen is because the people in Saudi Arabia or whatever location we're talking about, Mo, they look at us like broke-ass niggas. Like, y'all niggas fighting over this? in Saudi Arabia or whatever location we're talking about, Mo,

they look at us like broke-ass niggas. Like, y'all niggas fighting over this? Get the fuck out of here. Yo, cop all them niggas, man. Yo, bring the whole, matter of fact, cop the whole league. The fuck you mean, niggas, beefing over 50 million? Make that tonight, nigga fuckers. Them niggas pop.

Whole America. Yo, cop the whole boxing. I'm tired of doing one fight, Deion. Cop the whole shit. How much do it cost to cop the whole shit? They be like, nah, it's WBC, it's WB. Cop that, said the whole shit. Cop all them niggas, man. Matter of fact, throw two billion out there,

cop everybody. That's how they looking at niggas. That's the real, That's a fact. And if that's what will get us to get what we want to see fight-wise, like Mase was saying, so be it. That's just the case. But they ain't respecting our money. Niggas, look at all that's talking about.

Hold up. Let me get this right. The number one nigga is not fighting the number two nigga because one nigga want $20 million and one nigga want 15 million, and they can't seem to gross 10 million together? Cop them niggas. Yeah, that's all them niggas wanted? Yeah, yeah, yeah, cop them niggas.

That's all them niggas wanted? Yeah, yeah, man. They figured it out, so then they test running it. Like you say, you're sneaking Deontay over there. Other fighters come over. They say, oh, niggas really showing up. Cop everybody, man. They for sale.

I ain't knocking them. Because listen, like you just said, or stat read the number, and they makes you reiterated it. Niggas says $4 billion. We going to see all the fights. We going to get broke, niggas, all of us. Look at us. We going to see all the fights. We going to get broke niggas. All of us. Look at us. We going to see everything now.

We ain't, ain't, ain't going to be missed after this. We all sitting home like, yeah, they threw four billion. These niggas like, these,

yo, what else can we buy? What else we got? Meanwhile, we over here, thirsty. Me too. I'm not,

I'm not exempt from that. I'm talking, I'm agreeing with it. Me too. Yeah. Cop, cop these niggas so too. I'm not exempt from that. I'm agreeing with it, me too. Yeah, cop these niggas so we can see what we wanna see. But that's what's going on. That's a fact. Yeah, they like, yo, ain't no more PBC, nigga. Everything under our stone.

All them niggas. Who, Bob Arum? We got all them niggas, man. All them niggas. Bring them with you. Bring them with you, nigga. Yeah. How much I gotta pay you to leave your man? Yeah.

You coming? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They tell niggas, everything y'all send for your man, take a walk away fee. Yeah, they like, yeah. But what about him? Don't worry about him. We already got him.

What's your number? Yeah, exactly. That's what's going on.'t worry about him. We already got him. What's your number? Yeah, exactly. That's what's going on. That's a fact. Yeah. Hey, did you see the, and then when you see, when they put the fight on, man, they make it look like an Olympic, like an Olympic level presentation. When they did the theory and the Francis Ngannou fight,

and I'm pretty sure it's the same place, but, man, they made it look, like, spectacular. And they know, you know, ain't nobody in America doing nothing like that. And so I'm pretty sure that they weighing that in as well. Better presentation. Yeah, I remember when, who was that? I think it was Yusick and Joshua was fighting, or one of them. They built a whole arena just for the fight. They said, nah, not only are we going to get the fighters,

we're going to use them to build our whole arena. We got a purpose now. Now you got all of the sheiks and everybody flying in just to watch these fights. So they came up with a lot over that. It looked like the gladiator Arena or something, you know, like in Rome, which was crazy. Yeah, but on a deeper level, when, like Cam just said it,

America is so broke that they're taking our prominent industry. So they're looking at Bob Arum like, nigga, you old. Don King, you out of here, right? The rest of you young niggas can be bought. You know, Oscar De La Hoya, you out of here, right? The rest of you young niggas can be bought. You know, Oscar De La Hoya, you fighting with Canelo on the internet every day about fighting David Benavidez. So let's just throw a couple dollars at these niggas and really steal a whole industry.

You know what I'm saying? And that's how I see it. But, you know, I get it. I know we'll move on. I can go on for days and days about it. Yeah, if they get David Benavidez and Canelo, that would be a great fight to do in Dubai. That would be excellent.

They'd build another arena for that. Yeah, they heard Canelo talking about that $200 million. They're like, all right, we got it. That would be sick to bring all the fights we always wanted to see, but you're going to come to Dubai for it. You're just going to be watching that four in the afternoon, though. They'll figure it out. Yeah, they'll figure it out.

Okay. And then the girls wouldn't mind either. There'd be more money than they made in Vegas. So, you know, they'll be looking at that too. So it's a win-win for everybody, the boxers, the thoughts, everybody win. Good point, Mace. Okay. So now let's discuss Marshawn Lynch. So he's going viral for clips circulating at his youth football camp and the moms who actually went off on him for cursing around their kids. In one clip, there's a video of a mom saying that as a result of him

cursing, her son was in tears. So what do you think of the clip and how he's been handling the mothers and what the mothers had to say to him in response? Maurice first. Yeah, if anybody follows me on social media, they, they've seen me talk about youth league sports and youth league coaching extensively. And I'm, I'm sensitive about this topic. One, I want to be sensitive to the mother who, you know, said what she said are, you know, her, her feelings in regards to her child. But one, I'll say this, man, I kind of hate where youth league sports are at and i'll put this disclaimer i hate when i go to practice around my kid and everybody got their fucking phones out

and i want to record everything and they've made youth league sports turn into like some fucking uh zoo of some sorts like that's the first thing i want to say uh one or the second thing i wanted to say was that i'm not mad at Marshawn Lynch. And I come from the era where when a kid goes to practice, I even do this to myself now, when a kid goes to practice, I let the coach who's ever coached my kid, coach my kid, knowing whoever the coach is may be a little bit intense, or I'll know the background of the person I brought my kid to. Youth league sports is supposed to establish, like, a standard of, like, engagement into the sport, your approach, your seriousness. And, you know, the coaches, they try to develop that.

And, you know, when you're talking about somebody like Marshawn Lynch with a nickname as Beast Mode, that should give you an indication as to who's talking to your kid, who he is, and, you know what I'm saying, what's going on. And the irony of the whole clip is that she was crying, but that same thing that she's exemplifying is basically in her kid. And through sports, you're trying to knock the bitch out of a kid. You're trying to get the seriousness of a kid. You're trying to establish a standard of how you need to approach this thing. It's just a discipline. And so I get it. You know, I don't want to sound like I'm bashing women or mothers, but I think that everybody, if you if you bring your kid to a practice,

you should research the coach and let the coach coach your kid, no matter how tough or how hard it may be. But they're developing and bringing something out that probably isn't in the kid in the first place. and bringing something out that probably isn't in the kid in the first place? I know this is a sensitive topic to many when it comes to kids and it comes to parents, but exactly what you're saying is food for thought. You know, when people are bringing their kids to practice, especially when a mom is bringing their son to football practice you're you're 100 right he's reiterating the behaviors he's seeing her and now he's trying to play football the problem is that you sent them to the beast mode camp that's the problem. I think the title explains itself. This is beast mode. This is not the regular football camp. This is Marshal Lynch. There's certain places you go, you should expect what you got. You didn't actually get everything. That was just a portion of it. You sent the boy to beast mode camp.

What he's saying is what Marshall Lynch think is necessary to bring the beast out of your child in the area of football. Not in his character, not in his personality off the field, but on the field. You don't need him to be a therapist on the football field. And sitting there talking about, oh, breathe and relax now, Tony. Let's say the kid's name is Tony. You don't need him out there with that mindset trying to play football. And I think when it comes to these type of camps or any type of program, you got to know the program you're sending your child in. And if we was talking about college, if we was talking about high school, even if you was talking about middle school and you're talking about football,

there is coaches that feel like when you bring your kid to my team or my camp, it is almost like you're turning your kid over to them. So I hate people that try to coach their kids from the sideline. I really hate that. Being a person who is coaching youth sports, that's one of the hardest things to deal with is somebody on the sideline thinking they kids should be in the game, telling you that how you're dealing with the kid. Now we know that cursing at the kid and, and doing those such behaviors is not cool for certain people. But I, I would say if you brought them to somebody like Marshawn Lynch,

you would have to trust his process. The same way in Philadelphia we had to trust their process even though it didn't work, we definitely can trust Marshawn's Lynch process when it comes to kids. For B-Smoke, not just for anything else for B-Smoke. How do you know we can trust this process with kids? You seen them around kids right before this? not just for anything else for B-Smoke. Now, should he spank the kid? How do you know we can trust this process with kids? You seen them around kids right before this? You seen them at a daycare center?

You seen them at a daycare center? Like, where'd you see them babysitting? How do you know we can trust them around kids? That's a great question. It's no different than if I want my kid to be a gangster and I send them to O-Dog's camp. If you want them to be a gangster, then O-Dog camp would be great for them. You also said, I want to go back to a couple things you said.

You said that you're a firm believer of hating, that you don't like parents who coach from the sideline when you're coaching. So what you did was got your son his own team and you coached it. So you wouldn't be a parent from the sideline coaching. You would be the actual coach. That's better than coaching from the sideline. That's what you're saying?

Go get your own team. That's one remedy. That is one remedy to it. Most parents who have the means that think they know better, that is what they should do. LeBron has

done it. Carmelo Anthony has done it. I have done it. I'm just wondering. I mean, I'm in great company. You don't see LeBron coaching, though, Mace. We never seen him coaching. He be at the game.

I never seen him coaching. Oh, yes, he was. I believe you. I'm just asking. I didn't see him coaching. So he actually coached his son before? I don't know. I'm asking.

Yeah. Okay. That's where I got the idea from. Okay. I ain't know. I ain't know. So you said I ain't know. I ain't know. So you said I ain't going to be one of them parents that coach from the sideline. I'm going to just go get the team and coach the team so I don't be one of them niggas.

That's basically what you're saying. Yes, because that's horrible. And also, you got to think about this, Killer. If you had a child that was, let's say you had a child and he was six, let's say he was 6'4", and he played guard, it's going to be hard for you to have Jingle telling you that he's bringing your son off the bench with the third unit.

And he's left-handed. Yeah, what are you going to do? Are you getting your own team? Or are you leaving? I'm not, no, these are all questions. I'm asking. I'm just going to, I know, I'm not being, I'm asking. So I'm asking you a question.

So I'm asking you a question. So I'm asking you a question. Are you letting your kid come on the third unit? I'm not going to talk with the coach before I make a move. This is the same thing. This is the same thing, God bless, that Kobe did. How you think he got this team mumbler? He said, you know what? I'm not sitting here watching this.

And then the coach is telling you, we're going to have a talk with you, Mr. Bryant. You know, out here in Orange County, we're running a program that it's more about math, science, social studies. We want them to be all around good people and he's bringing his child off the bench kobe is like no we started team mumba tonight team mumba is being started tonight especially he got n, he got all of the resources to do it. How you think they started it? They started it because it was a team. I was just asking. I'm just asking because this leads to my next question.

No, it's a great question. Right. It's a great question. It's actually a phenomenal question. So now let me ask you this. You're the coach of your son's team, but now a parent wants to come talk to you about what you just was talking about.

You didn't want to talk to another parent about like, I to you about what you just was talking about you didn't want to talk to another parent about like i know you coaching your son and all that and i know we got to run the offense through him but listen my son is getting scouted by ucla tennessee kentucky etc i think we should we have we need to get him out the post and put him on the wing. What do you say to that as a coach? What I would say to that as a coach is that me personally, I never actually been through that because people like my style of play. Growing up, I live by that same creed that we grew up with, that nobody has a guaranteed spot. Everybody got to earn their spot and everybody, everybody can play on this team, but you have to play defense.

Everybody can play on this team. And I'm not the person to make you a power forward. I'm not the person that say you have to play this position. And that's the beautiful thing about sports today, that everybody can play multiple positions. So what I would do is I would start, even if it was my son, I would start him as small forward because he was taller than people, then move them to the one as a backup one, then play them at another position, just like i would do anybody else's child so everybody with me were playing so they felt like oh i like this team because we're running and we're upbeat every game so people are getting tired fast so everybody would play

it wouldn't be like somebody like yo mace is over here and he's not doing this and that and i think that's what people grew to like about me that that that type of system i played the same way i played that team the same way we grew up like in young life like niggas everybody was out there playing and people get so tired of running up and down garden full court that you didn't have to worry about anybody playing because people were getting tired and everybody was getting to play? That was a long answer. I would have told you, get your own team if you got it, nigga.

Fuck you talking to me about me and my son. Go get your own team. I wouldn't have went through all that shit you just told me. Very, very, very detailed answer. I appreciate it. But I'm not moving my son forward to make sure your son feel better. Nah, we putting him at the two or the one from the jump. He's not playing.

I know what time it is. Can't play the four in the NBA. Now, if you don't like it, go get your own team. That's just that. I appreciate you being detailed on the answer. Back to Marshawn Lynch, because I know we've been on this for a minute. Look, they both said it, Mason Moe.

We're sitting in a beast mode camp. I'm not going to sit here and I'm tired of always fucking doing this week after week because it's Gen Z, Boomer Babies, this shit, that shit. My son, pardon me, my coach threatened to pistol whip me, man. You know? I got threatened to get pistol whipped, man. No kizzy, man. No kizzy, man.

My coach told me he had two kilos in his car and he might go to Puerto Rico and do the wild thing later. This is what he told me, man. This is a fact. This is a fact. Mase, am I lying? Yeah, he told me in order to play the point, he got to know what I would do in the ocean with a shark first.

This is the type of coaches we had. He said, so if I got you at the one, I need to know this much right now. If you're in the ocean and a shark is in the middle. Yeah, what do you do? I'm like, what am I playing the question? What's your answer Moe? Cause I remember this question.

This was for everybody. What would you do if you were in the middle of the ocean and a shark pulled up on you? What would you do? Because this is a legit question that Mason's saying we was asked. What's your answer? I want to hear your answer too, Stat. What would you say? What would you do?

I'd probably be laughing like I'm doing now. I wouldn't know what to say, man. What would you do, Steph? If you were in the middle of the ocean. No, you wouldn't. Tell him, kill him. No, you wouldn't be laughing. Hold on, hold on.

No, because he wasn't laughing. He was dead serious. He wasn't laughing. What would you do if a shark put up on you in the middle of the ocean? I'm just asking. Oh, I don't even know. You gotta try to, you gotta try to tussle with the shark

because I'm not going to swim faster than it. That's pretty close. Yeah, ask me what I would do. Yeah, yeah, that's what he said. Ask me what I would do. Because we was confused too. We didn't know what to say. He said, I'll wait till the shark get close

and I'll punch him right in the middle of his nose. Nigga said, you never know. He might be a pussy shark. Nigga might be soft. But nobody ever knows because nobody ever swung on him. And I need my guards to be fearless. I want my guards to be fearless.

Yo, nigga, one of our teammates went to see somebody in jail. Nigga said, what the fuck wrong with y'all bitch ass niggas going to see niggas in jail? I went to see a nigga in jail. I take my belt off, my shoestrings out. I told the nigga, you the jailbird. I'm not. I know you my brother.

That's your business. I got shit to do. Y'all motherfuckers scared of niggas in jail. This is the shit we had to hear. I'm being polite about it, to be totally honest with you. That man told me he'll pistol with me we had to hear. I'm being polite about it to be totally honest with you. That man told me he'll pistol with me if I keep talking and I'm talking crazy. Period. And he told me he had two kilos

in his trunk and a nine millimeter and he might go to Puerto Rico to do the wild thing this weekend. So y'all little niggas stop telling me about crazy because y'all niggas think y'all know what crazy is. Y'all don't know what crazy is. Yo, Killer.

Yo, Killer. I think it worked, though. I'm not going to lie. As crazy as it was, I think it prepared us for anything. No, no. This is why we can't be crying or complaining or even talking about mothers crying at camp.

This all relates back to that. You raising a bitch-ass nigga. For real, man, you can't do that, man. This man got to go in the world without you, mom, one day, man. Start raising bitch-ass niggas, man. You can't do that. Yo, you can't talk about something like that. Mo and May said it best.

Don't send them to B Smoke here. Send them to St. Latter Day Saints. Two-hand touch. You know what I'm saying? Football clinic. Yeah. No disrespect before the St. Latter Day Saints come after me. Send them to, no disrespect.

Send them somewhere safe. Flag football. Two-hand touch. Don't-day Saints come after me. Send them to, no, I'm talking about send them somewhere safe. Flag football, two-hand touch. Don't send them to Beastmoak here. And don't think those niggas ain't going to get cursed at. I tell you one thing, I tell you one thing about this mother. Go and see what's going on at Cam Newton camp.

Nigga, go over there. Go over there and see what happens. They fighting the sponsors, the niggas who run the camp, everything. You worrying about beast mode cursing, go over there. Something might not make it home, everybody's fighting. Be happy you got a couple curse words, man.

Honestly, like- Yeah, and it's always about what you want your kids to turn into. They always say in order to know that you're dealing with real gold, you got to put the kid not in the fire literally, but you got to put them in the fire. They used to always tell me that. The cream always pours, rise to the top.

If you put a kid in the midst of all of this turmoil, he's going to rise to the top. And I don't mean like break the kid down mentally or anything like that, but you have to allow them to grow up so they can be tough and that they can be reliable as men. That's what you want the ultimate goal to be, is to turn a kid into a better human being. And if that's a part of that process, I believe men have to be able to figure things out. Let me ask y'all something before we move on, because I know we have to get ready to go to break in a minute.

And this has something to do, no, seriously, this has something to do with what we're talking about, but not really have something to do with what we're talking about, but a little bit. I seen Boosie, shout out to Boosie, the other day. And I like this question.

This is a really dope question. And people be thinking Boosie joking and everything else. But I thought this was a really dope question. I want to ask you guys this. Is that, you know, as a parent, that your kid ain't going to make it,

but they in it. They on the team. They playing football. They playing basketball. They playing soccer. They playing volleyball, but they the last nigga on each of the teams I named. They very athletic, but they the 12th man on the basketball team.

They 53rd on the football team. They only getting in in volleyball if somebody gets hurt. Do you support they dream and tell them that they're still going pro knowing that they're not going pro? How do you handle that as a parent? That's what Boosie would say. Boosie's like, I don't know what to do because I know my little nigga ain't going pro. I got to keep going to these games.

I got to keep showing up supporting. I got to act like the dream will come true. And I know it's not going to happen. He's just not good enough. How does that work at a parent? Where do you say, your son, you should look into accounting or you should look into coaching? Because you don't want to discourage their dreams and evil,

but if it's not realistic, how do you handle that? Yeah, for me, it's real simple. Oh, go ahead, Mace. Go ahead, Mo. You go. You know, for me, it's real simple, man. Consistent words you're going to hear from me, man, is deal with reality. And it's

more or less, and I'll get more personal with this because my daughter was so smart that she skipped two grades, right? And when she skipped two grades, she was two years younger than everybody else, excuse me, as she started to develop in sports. And as she started to develop in sports, she was, you know, she was basically like athletically behind everybody. So she was one of those people who didn't get in the game as much, who didn't do all this other shit.

Right. And I said, either I can sit here and lie to my daughter and say, Hey man, you're going to get it together one day and all this other shit. Or I can have her deal with reality and get all the good shit that you supposed to get out of sports. Right.

You supposed to be on time. You supposed to be, you know, proud for your teammates. You supposed to get all this other shit out of the sport, but I'm not about to lie to you and say that it's about to be scouts here scouting you because that doesn't fit the criteria and i just have the thought that later on in life she'll be like yo my pops was honest with me and i've been able to deal with that honesty and i've seen her break

down i've seen her get sad at games i've seen it all but i think that you let a kid down when you just lie to them and you just create like this habit of just like always selling people pipe dreams. Because then at that point, they're putting effort and the focus into something that won't materialize, right? And I just didn't want to do that myself. But on an ego side, I said, we're going to get something else that's right because your self-esteem is about to be broken down through sports, right? And so, you know, I'm going to get something else that's right because your self-esteem about to be broken down through sports. Right. And so, you know, I'm going to get some other shit together to build you up in all this other stuff that we do through business and things that I want to see her have

success in. But me, I deal with reality. Like I'm, I'm like a firm believer. I said a thousand times, wherever you at is where you at. And I think that parents should be like brutally honest with their kids um that if they if they're not gonna make it just that's my opinion in my experience this is really interesting because i want to give two different um outlooks on this um i i think that not not boosie take boosie out of it but that same concept I don't believe you and in one case I believe you should like you all are saying but then on the other end I don't believe you should tell him that because I believe certain things you figure out as you go you know you one person

you never want to give up on you and that's your parents right so let's say if his dream is just to be on the team that may be true that he could be on the team it doesn't mean he has to play because you remember on the football team mode there's practice players right so let me give you the other vantage point of this you don't want to tell him he's not going to make it because when it comes down to being a player as uh on a practice team like we we would all be athletic Paul Studs right so we all believe that we're playing the sport that we're playing that we would make the team I don't believe killer would get somewhere and not make it I don't believe I would get somewhere and not make it I don't believe Maurice would get somewhere and not make it. But when it comes down to making that last spot, the real gifted

athletes don't want that spot. So that spot is available. That spot on the practice team is available to the person who's high character, not always the person who's the best player. So I would disagree with what Ambusi said, because can his son make that team and just be on the team, not playing, but getting on the bus with that team, practicing with that team, on the roster with that team? Probably so, because that last spot comes down to character. A superstar doesn't even want to be

the last person on the bench. Do you get that concept, Mo? Yeah. What I'm trying to say? No, I get it. I get exactly what you're saying because my daughter was that person, right? And I found a joy, like,

I've only developed from being, in fucked up circumstances. Right. When I seen my daughter struggling with that and like, man, I don't really want to go to practice. I don't really want to root for my other teammates. That's a sharpening and a refining of her because every time you're not going to be in the position pause that you want to be in. And sometimes it's going to be people in front of you and you're going to have to support them, but support them with a good heart, right? Hey, look,

sometimes people just better than you. That don't mean you have to start working your ass off, but show up every day, have enthusiasm. But I believe like back to the Tom Brady conversation, like how many times do you have to get up and do a bunch of shit that you don't want to do that? I think that's the, that's the, that's the lesson learned from that that she probably didn't get before. But that's the message in it. Like, yo, sometimes you just have to do some shit you really don't want to do. And I felt like she got more of that out of sports than, man, I went out here and got

a bunch of gold medals and a bunch of highlights from high school. I don't know if that made sense, but that was like a real situation with me. Yeah, and the reason why I say that, because you even go back to looking at draft night, right? Look at draft night on the day that they were picking either Deshaun Watson or Pat Mahomes, right? Deshaun Watson was the foregone conclusion of who's the better player. Oh, his footwork.

Oh, he's super athletic. Oh, this person has no footwork. Remember, if you go back and look at that clip, you're like, man, it was talking about Pat Mahomes like he didn't have any of these things. And that Deshaun Watson arm was like a rocket and he can do all of these things. So take that into consideration when you're talking about children, because at one point this was somebody's child. Like thinking and still is that he can't do any of these things. Oh, he's a poor manager of the football.

There's a clip floating around on Instagram about it. If you pull it up, Stat, or anybody pull it up, you'll see that they were giving Pat Mahomes a note in every area. And then somebody else was sitting there thinking, no, this is exactly what we're looking for. So it's all about getting the team that need what you have. Because on one team, you may be nothing on one team. Like we seen it. I forgot the little, the little wide receiver that worked for the Patriots. I forgot his name, a little white boy that, but he, he had a, he had a great career, but if he was on another team, he had a great career. But if he was on another team, he would have not even started.

But he was picked on the right team. That's the favor that comes with just being at the right place at the right time. And that's why I would say I wouldn't say that against a child because some people, the best players to me that I've seen, whether it's football, whether it's basketball, and I've been watching youth sports ever since I was a youth, the best people were not the people that were the best when they were young. I think LeBron is the only person that was the best young and ended up the best as an adult. A lot of the people that are great when they're young, they fizzle out by high school, and the other people just kept getting, like Tom Brady said, better, a little bit better, a little bit better,

and a little bit better, until they end up being Hall of Fame players. But they were not the best players when you think about it. I totally disagree. I totally disagree. I totally disagree. You know if your son is going pro or not. This ain't Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes. Both of them is going pro. We're talking about

if your son is going pro or not going pro. And Boosie didn't say, he didn't say nothing. All he asked was, what should you do? That's what he said. He wasn't putting his son up. So I don't want people to misconstrue. But me personally, Mace, you made great points of people who are going to be pros. You know if somebody's going pro and they're not going pro.

And like you said, you've been watching since they was young. I think this was one of them not saying that. This isn't a Tom Brady work harder situation. This isn't even like God bless the dead, one of my guys who just passed Corey Homicide Williams. He worked his ass off to even play overseas. These are hard workers, so I get what you're saying. But you know if niggas got the intangibles to go pro.

You know if their coordination is not right. I'm talking about an absolute no. You know damn well you're not going. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying niggas who ain't got the potential to go. You know damn well you're not going. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying niggas who ain't got the potential to go. You know damn well you're not going. When you say pro, what I'm taking in consideration

is pro making it. And what you said, just real quick, before you go again, Murda, what you said I think is right in college when you're saying you're 100% right, that the Kobe Bryant or me or you or Mo or whoever else that we consider ourselves good athletes whenever we was playing, you're damn right we're going to be 11th and 12th on the bench.

And, yeah, those is the niggas that will take a spot because they're happy to be on the team. It's like when we went to see Kansas State play in the Final Four last year in 2023. We went to the game and we watched, we were so amazed at how many young niggas was assisting coaches with clipboards.

They was like, yeah, them niggas get it. They know that they're not going. They had their clipboards, they had the water ready, they was getting the seats ready.

They started coaching at, in college because they saying, and me and Mace was looking at it. We was like, damn,

it's about eight or nine students that get it. They know. So they're starting their career now. So I think in college, you're absolutely right. I think when it comes to pro, that you know who's going and who's not going. And sometimes we get a bunch of niggas,

and you're not lying, Mace, the niggas ain't shit. And people that you thought were ain't shit turned out being better than some of the people that we thought were going to be like the niggas. Like, it's a bunch of number one picks. We could sit there and say, that nigga's a bust who's not in the league anymore. Niggas was trash.

But I just think that you really, when you really know, not a work ethic, not saying that you, we're comparing niggas who's in the same realm. You just know. You a work ethic. Not saying that you were comparing niggas who's in the same realm. You just know. You're 4'3".

You're not growing. Your father's 5'6". Your mother's 5'2". And you want to be a forward. This is what I'm saying. What do you say to those people? I know we got to move on, but that's kind of the question

that I was leading to. But you guys both gave great answers. Now, all of these are great answers. And I'm thinking about the Muggsy Bowles and people like that. Some people are anomalies and they're anomalies to what's

going on. I remember when I went to the Knicks game and I was supposed to perform, I saw a guy that I went to college Knicks game and I was supposed to perform, I saw a guy that I went to college with, right? So he's pro. He went pro. He just went pro as a ball boy, you know?

But he gets to travel with his team and all this. But he was running with us. And everybody, he was like, man, I'm going to the league. I'm going to the league. I'm going to the league. I know what you're saying, Killer. I'm like, you I'm going to the league I'm going to the league I'm going to the league I know what you're saying killer I'm like you're not going to the league because I know what what I'm doing that you cause in practice there's no way you're going to the league because I'm not going but it was funny to see him like you know working for the Knicks doing things for the Knicks, doing things for the Knicks. You know, when I walked out in the middle of the thing, he was running stuff for the Knicks.

So did he go pro? No, this is what I'm talking about. Like, look, look, look, the same ring, it don't look good right now. It looks like it's over. But the same ring Kyrie and Irving get, or Luka get, Shamgar get. You're part of an organization, and that means something. Exactly.

Yeah, so he's sitting there like, I told you I was going pro. I just fell out laughing. His name is Anthony. He worked for the Knicks. And they was like, yo, get your jersey from him. And it was like a surreal moment. I'm like, yo, how this nigga end up in the Knicks organization? But he did.

We would have told him you're bugging. And then real quick, I just got to agree with Cam. It's just being honest with yourself when you know you know. Like I played sports in high school. If my coach putting me in fourth quarter, there's two minutes left. i know i'm not making it to the league so i gave up quick focus on academics and i'm happy i did because i'm wearing him now i had to give that up you just gotta know like look i'm not making it like it's just not going anywhere okay we're gonna go to break when we return we'll discuss this lakers and jj reddick combo don't

go anywhere all of shit yeah we the shit shit all year round is money season every flip counts i got rich over this bounce girl ain't no sales in gucci we ain't looking for a discount no Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So tonight, game four, Mavs versus Celtics. Underdog fantasy has Luka at 32.5 points. Do you have him higher or lower at Mace? Higher. Higher.

Okay. Jason Tatum is at seven first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. And Jalen Brown is at 34.5 points points rebounds and assists do you have them higher lower mace absolutely higher MVP all right okay download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so the Lakers officially announced they're interviewing JJ Redick in

person this weekend we discussed a lot of different parts of this but now knowing this information what are your thoughts on this update? Maurice first. I don't know. I don't necessarily, I've said it before, I don't like JJ Redick being the coach of them, but it's just hard to believe that after I see him on the podcast with LeBron, I see him on the podcast with LeBron that this isn't like a strong option for the Lakers. So I don't like it, you know, for various reasons, but I think it may have the possibility of happening just because I've seen him and LeBron get into some detailed basketball talk and that may be enough to win Jeannie bussover or whoever the decision makers are with the Lakers organization?

Yeah, for me, I just think not just J.J. Redick. I've been left the Lakers after Kobe left. I left with Magic Johnson and that whole group. I was a lifetime Laker fan. Then after Kobe left, I just really never got back into the Lakers. So this is another decision that they'll make. Who knows how it'll turn out. But it just doesn't seem Laker-ish to me, you know.

I don't like the decisions they be making up there. I think this is a recipe for disaster. I think him and LeBron having a podcast, you know, it was an appetizer for what's yet to come for us. But

J.J. Redick seems like the type that is going to throw niggas under the bus. And that's going to cause conflict throughout the season. So if something's not going right or something's not there, he looks like one of those people. And I don't know this for a fact. I don't know his coaching style or his AAU team or Pee Wee League team or Biddy's team that he's been coaching, his style.

But I've been hearing that it's very intense. And he looks like one of them people to me that if shit don't start going right he's one of them like well if lebron would have got back on defense or if ad would have been where i accidentally be at or so and so so and that's going to cause conflict and i think you have to know how to deal with today's athlete i think um athlete. I think Tom Thibodeau is the blueprint, so to speak, if you've been coaching as long as he's been coaching, because you can see the way he used to coach to the way he coaches today, and it's two different styles, because when he was dealing with people in the early 2000s or 2000s, you could talk to them a certain way. In the early 10s, 2010s, you could talk to them a certain way.

And it got more gentle, and it got more gentle, and it got more. And he learned that. And I think he's, you know, and he knows that I got to deal with people like the mother at Marshawn Lynch's camp. I got to learn how to talk to these people because they delicate. And he's really good at it. I don't think J.J. Redick is that seasoned to where he knows how to turn off his filter

to work with players yet. I don't know this for a fact. I just see how intense he is when he's on ESPN or First Take or any of this stuff. He's very intense when it comes to debating or arguing or saying his point of view to the point where you're like, God damn, bro.

It's all good. And I love debating. I don't like when everybody agrees with each other. I like when people have different points of view. But it gets to the point where you can see that nigga vein pours on the top of his head and his lip is quivering and he can't keep still because he gets himself that worked up. And it's that good quality for

a half to be a coach, let alone a Laker head coach? I'm not sure. We'll see what happens though. I know Dan Hurley told niggas fuck off, kick rocks, going back to Connecticut. Mo, you gave us none of this information. We had to find out at the same time everybody else was finding out.

Thanks for being our Connecticut insider. Stay your ass in Ohio, nigga. Yeah, we have from Shug from Connecticut. Yeah, man. Come on, man. I'm dead. No worries.

Okay. I'm dead. Okay. And the. Stat, what's next up? I'm dead. Okay, and the last thing before we wrap, so the Tank versus Frank Martin fight is tomorrow. I want to know you guys' prediction ahead of this fight. Maurice first. Well, for the obvious reasons, I got Tank, and I'll say what I wanted to say about this.

I think this has more to do with, I don't know Tank's trainer name, but he's always with Tank. The older gentleman with the glasses. Coach Calvin. I think this is him. You know his name? Calvin.

I think Calvin, Coach Calvin, yeah. Coach Calvin. And I think about Derek James coaching up Frank Martin. And I don't know why, I just like the chemistry between those two. There's like a humility. There's like a respect. There's like a, like almost like an organizational structure between those two. And when I always see his demeanor and when he's always talking about tank is prepared,

it's like he knows that he's done enough to put tank in that place where tank needs to be to fight. And I always see Tank hold him in high regard. And I just like people who understand order and respect and, like, outwardly, like, display that. And I think to myself, like, you know, Derrick James hasn't been able to get it done with the guys, right? I know the Ryan Garcia thing has PEDs all smeared over. But when you look at Earl Spence, when you look at the Charlos, and then now this being a big fight, I just say, man,

is there another element of that with the person being in your corner and losing these big moments? Because, you know, sometimes when you're in these big moments and the crowd is crazy and the people are crazy, you look to lean on somebody who's like the person next to you. And I don't know if that comes into play. I don't know if like stuff starts to happen during a fight and the game plan goes out the window or you don't know how to adjust.

I know that was a big reason behind Earl losing to Terrence Crawford. They said that Terrence started getting there and he didn't know what to do. So I don't know. I'm going with tank, but those are my reasons. That's why I'm supportive. I just don't know if the person coaching him has enough to beat Tank and what Tank has built over these years.

Me personally, I know this will sound weird, but I'm going with Frank, Frank Martin. Again, this is one of those situations. Not this is one of those situations, but I'm starting to see something in Tank that I saw like with Earl Spence, right? That even if it's not this fight, he's coming upon that time where we're going to find out who he really is. Because I don't think as of right now, we still know who Tank is because we never seen him in trouble. We always see him as the bully. We always see him as the person running through everybody.

So I think the time comes when, even if it's not this time, the time is coming where we're going to see that put to the test. We got to see a person in trouble to know who they really are. We saw Floyd Mayweather's under trouble, under duress, when that over right hand caught him by Shane Mosley. And then we saw what he became. We saw Adrian Brona become a different person with a counter left hand against Madonna. I've always seen fighters that are dominant always go outside because they're not defensive fighters. They're normally always bullying somebody. Even if it's not this fight, I think he'll get past this fight, but I'm still rooting

for Frank Martin because that's something that I see. And also, when it comes to coach, Derrick James would be the coach that understand what it takes because he's been through it with Errol Spence. He's actually

coached Ryan Garcia to dominate. Who was that? Devin Haney. And then we've seen him coach the Charlos to, what's that called, when they got all the belts again? He just lost. But he lost to Canelo. Yeah, but he wasn't supposed to be canelo that

was like a money just for the money fight but derrick james would be the guy who knows how how to fight these big fights even though the the thing against derrick james is all his fighters fight the same they're just a basic just come forward type of person, but they rumor has it is that even Javante said that Frank Martin hit him with a brick hand and they're sparring. And some people said, why would him? But we

don't know. I don't think he will win against Tank, but I'm rooting for him. I don't respect that nigga Derrick James coaching style whatsoever. Mace made a good point. We got to see what happens. From what I'm hearing, I don't know too much about the nigga Tankus fighting.

I've been watching. What I've been hearing is this kid is good. He's just taking this fight too early. From what I've been hearing, they've been telling me that if he would have waited a year, year and a half, it would have been better. He's jumping the gun. But look, he has a good record. We'll see what happens. The one person that I would say, Mason, I don't think that

he was in trouble, but Roley was putting a lot of pressure on Tank. He was coming forward the whole fight. He was leaning on Tank, and he ran into something bad. He ran into something bad. He ran into something. So I don't think Tank was in trouble that fight with Rowley,

but he definitely was being pressed for them seven rounds or eight rounds or whatever that fight went to before Tank knocked him out. Rowley was the aggressor most of that fight. But we'll see what happens, man. I'm looking forward to the fight. If I have to make a decision, I'm going to go with Tank purely because I don't have any history on Martin. I don't really know his background.

I'm not going to say a lot of y'all act like I do. Yeah. The only person that probably could beat Tank at 135 is a young kid by the name of Mason. Rumor has it. He would be the one. But they probably never fight his name is Abdullah Mason no for real

he's a young guy oh he's from Cleveland it's the Abdullah brothers the Mason brothers oh yeah he is serious we have it well Maurice thank you for being here.

Mo, we appreciate you, man. Always. Okay. That's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.