IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE REASON WHY ANTHONY EDWARDS DOESN'T WANT TO BE THE FACE OF THE LEAGUE & CAM'RON THINKS THE BENGALS ARE RACIST! | S6 EP24

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Ma$e & Cam'ron are back with another one!! On this episode, filing in for Stat Baby is Trysta Krick to talk about Anthony Edwards saying he cool with being the face of the NBA, how different would Murda and Killa's careers had been if they grew up with Social media, Draymond Green says the Warriors are winning a title with Jimmy Butler, Ma$e calls CAP!! Then, KD and the Suns heading for a break up and Cam'ron says the Bengals might be racist with the way they treating the two Black WR's in Cincy! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE CAMERASTAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Trista Crick filling in for Treasure Wilson, along with your hosts MACE and Cam. Killer was good, man. What's up, man? How you doing? Everything all right? How you feeling, man? Yeah was good, man. What's up, man? How you doing? Everything all right? How you feeling, man?

Yeah, chilling, man. That's what's up. Let's see you taking my turtleneck look, but it's okay. Oh. I'm just, um... Killer. I've been doing turtlenecks all last season. You know what it is, because I'm in the glasses, too.

I just ducked off the glasses for eight seasons. I have many seasons. I'm like, I'm like, murder due to glasses. I'm like, what? Now they can take the turtleneck. It's crazy, man. How you doing, though, I'm like murder due to glasses. I was like, now nigga taking the total neck, it's crazy. Man, how you doing though, man? You look great, man, you look good. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe? Yeah, I was wondering what happened? You got it all toasty in there, man. This is not the day for me to turn the heat up in the studio when you come in and the wool. Yeah, I was wondering what happened.

You got it all toasty in here. Pause, it's crazy. I got cold when I came in. Before we get to the actual topics, I had a moment, Nick was in here with me, and this couple walked by, and they treated me like food. They were holding hands, they were pointing,

they were trying to get me to come out. And I was like, oh, well, this is what it must feel like to be you guys. Like, do you guys get looked at as food on a daily basis? I don't know if y'all seen talk with Flea, yesterday morning, talk with Flea every Tuesday morning and Thursday after it is what it is. But yeah, girl was just standing there staring

for about an hour, just staring. So I thought I'd come in and ask if she buffed helmets. I saw nothing. I didn't see nothing. Should she pick that up or did she? No, she didn't know. She was just basically like, what does that mean? I said, I need oral satisfaction.

She said, I'm into that if it's reciprocated. She tried to go reciprocate. I said, so you need it too. She said, I said, I don't know about it. She said, well. You said you don't know about it? That was another topic on the show. Sometimes I like to hunt.

That don't necessarily mean I want to kill you. You know how you catch a fish, you take a pigeon and you do it out? Pause, catch and release is great. Yes. This is going crazy this morning. But yeah, more of the stories. Catch and release is wild.

More of the stories, yeah. It comes a lot of people by the window with signs and mace fans and posters of them and all types. Somebody actually came here and did Mace one day, like the hat, the jersey, all type of shit. So yeah, we get a lot. I just want to say something to our viewers as well before we start.

I don't know, we gained a lot of followers, pardon me, subscribers, and we want to say thank you guys for subscribing to the show, liking. It's been truly amazing, our fan base, and we're growing everyday, pause. And I just want to tell you guys, thank it's been truly amazing. Our fan base and we're growing everyday, pause and I just wanna tell you guys, thank you a whole fucking lot. It means a lot to me and Murda. Because I talked about that on the show

and talked with Flea is that I, you know, I never thought we'd be this, I'm super duper happy, it's one of the happiest times of my life, but who knew, we the same type of nigga. Yo, Murda on the show, right? I said, I said, I said, after you went on Gilead, I went on Gilead and all that, so I hit Sham.

And Sham was like, I'm putting you on the group text. So, cause Sin asked me, Sin was like, would you think y'all be back here? And I was like, no, I didn't. I wouldn't have thought we'd be back here. I said, even when I called Sham, and Sham put us on the three way initially before we spoke to each other years.

So Sham is like Mase Ken, you know how you got a group text? And we both like, well, he ain't saying something. I said. I said. I said. I said. I said. I said.

I said. I said. I said. I said. I said. I, but I'm not going first. I didn't start nothing. I said, I had to go first and say something on the tech. So yeah, it's come a long way, but I just wanted to tell everybody thank you. And also you could go listen to us on Spotify, Apple Music, also on all the places that you could just listen to the pod.

But the reason I wanted to state all that until you guys thank you is because some people, we have new people every day watching the show and some people may not be familiar with Trista Fielding for us last season, did spectacular job, freestyled and everything. She's not necessarily new to the show, she hasn't been here for a while, but she's great, she's excellent, she knows sports, she's topping along. So stop trying to act like me and Murda bought somebody white and on Black History Month. She's been around since the history month. She's just... It wasn't intentional. She's one of us. It's okay, guys.

We didn't randomly do this. She's been around. Go back and check the previous episodes. Yeah, because she said, y'all could at least wait for Marks. Yeah, man.

But she's not new. And thank you for being here as well, Trisha. No, it is absolutely a pleasure. Like from the bottom of my heart, the fans who have come over from the show to my Instagram that have supported from July when I came on the first time to now has been like really phenomenal. So and I even see him out like in the real world, too. Like I shout out to Uptown Thugga from New Orleans. Like you're the best. No that doesn't that was not how I meant it to sound that that

was just like he was my lift driver there was nothing. Let's just get on to the sports. Yeah let's talk about Ant Wedwards because I know we talked about All-Star Weekend pretty much all day yesterday, but there was one person we did not get to that I definitely wanted us to talk about today, Ant-Man. So during media availability, he was asked whether he wanted to be the face of the league when Braun and Steph Curry retires. And Ant-Man was basically like, no, I'm good.

That's what Wemby is for, which is wild to me. So Mace, the first thing I wanted to ask you, do you think it's a problem that a young American, good looking superstar, which is kind of like the blueprint of the face of the league, doesn't want the pressure and the scrutiny of being that title? When it comes to Ant-Man, him being such a phenomenal talent, I mean just does everything on the court that you want a two guard to do, a wing player to do. I think it's more to do with off the court. There's the reason why he doesn't want to be the face

and I think that's a wise choice. If you know you still want to live it up, you know you still want to, you know, every now and then get somebody pregnant or not, you know, then that's not really going to go well with the face of the league. And when it comes to the face of the league, you got to be the type of person that

take Paul's the face of the league. I don't think the face of the league is ever handed down. I remember when it was Magic Johnson and then we were really looking forward to winning that championship and Mike came and you know, act like he was going dunk and then laid it up. I was like, it's over. You know, the face is supposed to be switched through wins and And no shot at Ant, but I think he made a wise choice in saying that.

I think it's gonna be the first time that we have the face of the league be somebody not from the United States. That's been in the making for a long time. Yeah, before I get my take, did you notice that Ant-Man came out All-Star announced and didn't play? Did you pay attention to that? He came out there and announced him and he didn't get in the game. They were saying that the nigga might have been smacked, he might have been drunk and

all that. That's what they're talking about in the gym today. Trish was at the gym today, she came to Tuesday tournament today. I did. That was the word on the street? That's the word on the street, is that there was tequila coming out of his pores and then he ended up saying, ah, I just couldn't get my groin right. Pause.

Wow. See, I tried to say it the nice way so I don't know if my take need to be edited, but that's exactly what I was saying. But you know, him being from Atlanta, I try to take the high road. Yeah. But yeah, I totally, 100% agree with Mace just said. You can't force me to be the face of the league.

I don't want to be the face of the league. Being the face of the league, and I can only speculate the face of the league. Being the face of the league, and I can only speculate. I mean, if I wanted to make a call and see what boxes you need to check to be the face of the league, I'm pretty sure I could make a call. And even though it's like fictional boxes and not contractually bind it,

but it's like, imagine getting them calls from Adam Silver in the middle of the night. Like, come on, you know what we're trying to do with you? You out here pissing outside the club and all this, you know? Yeah, it's all of that. It's all of those type of things. Right, like you said, that take was 100% correct. It's off the court.

They ain't not on the court shit, but being a face of the league is not just about your play. It's about conducting yourself in a certain manner as well, outside of basketball, you know what I'm saying? And I commend Ant-Man for saying, no, I don't want to be the face of the league. Like, I don't want to do that. That's what you got one before. Basically he said, look, I'm a nigga-nigga.

I'm pretty sure you don't want a nigga nigga. As the face. As the face of the league. You don't know what I'll be into. Like Mase said, a baby may pop up tomorrow or the next day. And that's none of the league's business, but that's whatever we're in with social media and people's opinion and be like,

yo, why y'all promoting this nigga and you trying to tell bitches getting abortion and all that, you know what I'm saying? So I actually commend Ant-Man for taking that stance because if that's him, that's him. I remember, look, Allen Iverson was a super duper talent. Yeah. And I don't, you know,

I'm not gonna say he's gonna be the face of the league, but he could have been. But no, he didn't want it, you know, I'm not going to say he's going to be the face of the league, but he could have been, but no, he didn't want it. You know, if you want to pick Shaq, Kobe, whoever, Alan Robinson had cornrows, tattoos, long t-shirts, jewelry. He's actually about to put an album out and David Stern was like, yo, you got to chill bro, now you wildin'. I'm on David Stern was like, yo, you got to chill bro. Now you wildin'. He's like, I can't be nobody but me.

To the point where, if you're old enough to remember, they actually tried to change the dress code of the league or the Allen Overson make niggas start wearing suits. The games and shit. Niggas is like, yo, come on my nigga. But that's how much influence the Allen Overson had in urban America. Maybe and probably outside of urban America. Because you start seeing white kids with cornrows and durags

when they texture their hair don't even need. That was me. Okay, there you go. That was me. I had the AI braids, I had the little zigzag parts and everything. You gotta bring a picture for that. Oh, I got that in the phone right now.

Yeah, see there you go. We'll put it up on the segment. But yeah, I can't even, I'm trying to find something to dispute with Mayset, but it's nothing to dispute. I actually commend Ant-Man for this take. I've seen a lot of people like, Yo, this is crazy. You don't want to be the face of the league and come with extra shit and all this other shit. Look, I get that at a certain time. It's kind of like when we were talking about the dunk contest money and all the other money that you can make be in it. Being in the dunk contest or win a three point contest or maybe a Gatorade commercial or

Wheaties box. This money, this money that these players are making, I'm not saying they don't want to endorse their money, but it is more than enough that they'll be all right if they didn't, especially Ant-Man didn't get the endorsement money. He's 23 years old and is under, I think, four or five years. I don't want to say the wrong amount of years. $235 million contract. So that means by the time he's 26, 27 years old, it's going to be, it's going to be even crazier.

And so you sit there and you say you might get 400 million. So right now we're already, before he's 30 years old, he's already at a half a billion dollars NBA money. He'll be all right. Yeah, I think when it comes to Ant-Man also, that he got to get ready to not get those calls. So when you think of like the Chiefs that we just saw a couple of weekends ago, when you're the face of the league, you get those calls that go your way

in certain games and and that's something that I hope he's looking forward to that as well. Normally the face of the league win championships. And I definitely so that's the league win championships. And I definitely, so that's the thing that people are more so saying, why doesn't he want to be the face of the league? Cause when we think of the faces of the league, whether it was Magic Johnson, whether it was Kobe Bryant, whether it was Michael Jordan,

these are all people that won championships, LeBron James, you know, so now it's going to transition probably into Wimby. He knows that, we know it, but you gotta think about that as well. Yeah, you know, that's a good point too because I think a lot of people look at Ant-Man and they see a lot of MJ in him. They see it in the way that he looks,

they see it in the way that he dresses, the way that he plays on the court, that athleticism, that explosiveness. There's just so many similarities and so it's easy to say, oh, Ant should be ready to take that medal. And the self-awareness there is very high. But that kind of leads me to my next question about that is like, do you think in 2025, in the age of social media, that Michael Jordan would be up for being the face of the league because he did a lot off the court like Ant-Man did. No, not the same.

I mean, not, we're not talking about like, there was no Instagram. I'm not talking about DMing people, hey, you need to get an abortion or allegedly, but like Michael Jordan liked to party. Michael Jordan liked to gamble. Michael Jordan liked to gamble. Michael Jordan liked the ladies, all the ladies. Yeah, I know that's the thing, like it's the privacy that comes with being the face of the league.

It doesn't equate to you not having that fun. It probably just equate to you not being seen doing that or not being caught doing it. I'm quite sure any person will have fun in that status. For sure. What do you think? That's a great question, Trish, because there was no Instagram. There was no social media. There was no...

If you see Mike, he can't hide it because he's in the club and they're taking pictures. Or even if he's at a private party, you see him coming in and out. Pause. You can't really base that on today. I think Michael Jordan would be annoyed actually, if you asked me about all the pictures and everybody on him.

Like, you gotta think about this, he has so much attention without a camera phone that he probably was annoyed from time to time. So imagine a camera phone in your face when you're just trying to Smoke a cigar or roll a blunt up or whatever Mike does in his off time And like you said the ladies imagine that you know, so at the end of the day I don't think Michael Jordan like it and I think my personal opinion is this is two different leagues It wasn't about like right now how you ask Ant-Man,

do you want to be the face of the league? David Stern doesn't actually tells you, you're going to be the face of the league. This is the way you- Yeah, so start doing- Yeah, exactly. It's not negotiable with David Stern. This is the way it is and this is what's gonna happen

and this is what I needed to do. I remember Kobe Bryant won an All-Star trophy. You can probably Google it. And David Stern was presenting him the All-Star MVP trophy. Yeah, hold it up. And he was like this. And David Stern said, hold it above your head. He said, hold it above your head.

He said, David Stern said, hold it above your head. He said, hold it above your head. He said, no nonsense type of guy. How do you guys think your careers and what you did when you guys were like at the peak of your powers would be different and how you moved if there was social media like it is now back then? Oh man. I don't even know how to answer that with social media. There's a lot of things that I think we were able to endure because there was no social media.

I think it would be crazier. I think it would be like, oh man, I couldn't even put words to it. It was social media. Yeah. And for the record, Tris, I'm at the peak of my powers as we speak. So just like, you know. My bad.

No, you good. No, you ain't no white body. You ain't no... No, I know. You talking about my music though. You gotta be specific. The peak of your music powers, Mike. The peak of you guys' music powers.

And that's in the cut too, if you need to be. So we got to be clear, you're talking about when we was younger. You got to be clear. You're talking about when we was younger, it was first China. Yeah, I get what you mean. I just got to be clear. Thank you. I appreciate you checking me for that. No, no, I just let you mean, I just have to be clear. Thank you, I appreciate you checking me for that. No, no, I just let you know. I know you got it still.

Like I know, I see you've got it. Yeah, that's available. But look, it's a couple different scenarios that go into that question, because I got asked that before. And when it comes to like, let's say social media, it depends on where you're at. Because let's say social media, it depends on where you're at. Because let's say for instance,

let's say for instance, you got the Mason, Cam, or CLC, whatever you wanna call out shit before we had money but we was rapping. So you could put down social media, but then it's a lot of other niggas who nice too, that might've been on social media as well. It's a bunch of niggas that then, but then you got to say, I would like, okay, let's say Instagram comes out when a

nigga go platinum. Now you got some money so you could, you could do whatever you want to do then. So it's a different, it's a different vibe. It's about what, when social media would have came out, uh, what I could say to that. So I don't have a specific answer like May said, but it's out, what I could say to that. So I don't have a specific answer like May said, but it's about wherever in my life I would have been in, to be totally honest with you. Because like for instance,

when I started the Diplomat Movement, it was a new magazine out called the Feds Magazine. And everybody was going crazy about this Fed Magazine, because I had Rich Porter on it, had Al Po on it, had a bunch of niggas on it with Ferg Coates and Louis Vuitton Jackets. And I was like, I got all that shit in the house. So then if you go Google the first diplomat mix ape ever,

I got everybody Ferg's. A couple of people had their own Ferg's, Brazzy, Shades Bub, Black, there's a few niggas had their Ferg's, but more of the story is whoever didn't have a fur, I put a fur on they back, RIP, K-Slay, but I made it look like we all up because I see how many people was going crazy

about this FED magazine. I'm like, that's dope, but that's in the crib. So let me go get this music, get everybody in the furs, and that's kind of how the movement movement started to be honest with you. That's fascinating. Good to do for the whole crew though. I like that.

Pause. Pause. Pause, sorry. All right, moving. Trish, you going crazy today. I know, it's a bad day, but it's the heat. It's the heat in the studio. It's them treating me like food.

I don't know what it is. They wanted the rag doll for the night. They did. It me like food. I don't know what it is. They wanted the rag doll for the night. They did, it felt like that. I was blushing, it was bad. It was really bad. I told Nick, I don't like this at all. They're ready to take me home. Somebody that I also wanted to get you guys' opinion on,

who also had some things that he had to say during All-Star weekend, and he was going crazy. Lot of things that he had to say, Draymond Green. One of the most wild things that he said was that he guaranteed that with Jimmy Butler this year that the Golden State Warriors are going to win a title. Now they are tenth in the West right now. They are just holding on for dear life in the play-in tournament. Like Mase, do you think that adding Jimmy Butler makes that a real conversation where Golden State is to be feared in the West?

Nah, that's a cap. That's a cap. If you think about that team, you really think that team could beat the Denver Nuggets in a seven game series. Stephen Carey would have to score 80 points. He would have to score 70 some days, 60 some days, because it just wouldn't be enough. I don't think people recognize the chemistry that's necessary to win a championship.

Right. So, and I know Draymond does know that chemistry, but the ball can only be in one person's hand at a time. If you if you got Draymond with the ball, then I mean, Jimmy Butler got to move a lot without the ball. If Jimmy Butler got the ball, which is great for them, then Stephen Curry becomes a person that's running off the picks, getting getting points. I can see that happen.

I could see them being an exciting team, but without front court play, I can't see them winning the championship. And if they get anybody to support, let me go on a record. If they get anybody, um, cominga any one of them to show up on the front line, that becomes a very, very dangerous thing and possibly could, but until I see that front court piece cause they, I can't say I'm winning a championship, but if someone does, he may, he may be a prophet.

What'd you think, Kim? Um, I was going to say that the Jonathan Jonathan Kamenga has been out for a long time. He's not the most skilled player, but he's very athletic. He's one of the people that kind of actually pissed me off, Jonathan Kamenga, because he's athletic, he's lengthy, he also knows his way around the basket, and he doesn't work on his skills in the off season. He comes back with the same game every season and he's still young, but if he develops some skills he could be one of them niggas. Definitely an all-star without even thinking about it coming into the season if he develops the skills, but I think he relies so much on his athleticism that he doesn't really work on his skills as much

I'm current I'm conflicted with this because first of all Draymond did say a lot of crazy shit But that's why his podcast is popping. He don't hold his tongue. He's not politically correct He say whatever the fuck you want to say and not only say whatever the fuck you want to say He do it why he's still playing in the NBA They like you ain't got a game this week. You know what I'm saying? I commend that nigga. And I appreciate niggas who's like-minded and doesn't and don't and say what they really feel.

With that being said, I'm not gonna say no, cause look, I'm not gonna sit and be not gonna say it back like playoff Jimmy Butler is not a real thing. That's a real thing. Jimmy Butler turns up a real thing. That's a real thing. Jimmy Butler turns up in the playoffs. The go to state warriors are three in one right now with the Jimmy Butler.

Do they need peace in the front court? Like they said, absolutely. Jonathan Kamenka is supposed to come back right after All-Star break. Is he the answer? I don't know. He's not the answer for the Joker, I tell you that. He, he's not the answer for the Joker, I tell you that. He's not gonna be the answer for Anthony Davis,

I tell you that. Or Chet. Yeah, not Chet neither. Or not even Chet. The center in Memphis. Edie. Yeah, not Edie, I'm not even talking about Edie. Jaren Jackson.

Jaren Jackson, so you have to think about the front court. But if you're talking about playoff Jimmy Butler and playoff Steph Curry, it could be something. But I'm with Mace on this. You have to show it to me, but I'm not gonna count them out. But the West is tough, man. You have to think about this.

What Draymond said, he said, none of those teams scare him. That's what his exact quote. I don't, none of those teams scare him. That's what exactly is the exact quote. I don't think none of the teams scared to go to state. Nobody's, nobody's scared to go to state. So he's like, nobody's scared of Dre and, and, and, and let's not act like playoff Draymond green is a thing. I think.

And when I say that, I mean, he'll choke you. He'll kick you. He'll, he'll, he'll, when the ref is not mean, he'll choke you, he'll kick you. When the ref is not looking, he'll step on you. He'll do what he has to do in the playoffs to win games. And then sometimes that intimidates other players. If they weren't like that uncle that could still fight, things be like, you know, leave this nigga alone. We ain't got time for this shit with this nigga.

We'll see. But his quote was nobody's scared. He's not scared of any teams, but I don't think any teams are scared of the Golden State Warriors. We looking at the top portion of the Western Conference. You have Memphis, who's in second, OKC. Denver's creeping right there in third place.

The Lakers, I believe, are in fifth. Houston's making noise this year. But if I'm Houston, I don't know if I wanna play Golden State, if I'm Houston. Those other teams, I don't think that they'll have a Dallas if they get back up where they need to be. I don't think they'd have a problem playing Golden State. We'll see, but I do know one thing.

People like Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, and especially Draymond Green like to prove people wrong, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, I think that's a super valid point because if they do get into the playoffs, like they're 10th right now in the West, if they end up being the eighth seed and they play OKC, the thing that we saw about OKC last year

and their problems with Dallas is they just go cold. They're not the best three point shooting team. They did add a little bit with Alex Caruso, who's a great catch and shoot shooter. You know, obviously Chet has another year under him, but they can go ice cold. And that's kind of like the thing that Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler do so well in the playoffs,

is that their defense has been awesome this year too. So I could see OKC getting upset. I wouldn't be like super shocked. In the first round? In the first round. I mean, that's not one of those scenarios where if I'm a young team who's a one seed and like the team that's sort of been coronated already,

I don't wanna see Steph Curry in the first round. I don't wanna see playoff Jimmy Butler who's got something to prove, especially if like you said, Jonathan Kominga comes back, he's healthy, he's motivated to get that max contract that he wants from the Warriors. I would actually be, only if I'm OKC, I would be a little bit terrified to get upset

by a team that has four rings underneath them. Yeah, like that's an absolute. That's a good point. That's a super duper good point, because I said that, I'm not with Golden State, but I said personally, I'd not would go to the state, but I said, personally, me, my personal opinion is, OKC would want to play Dallas in the first round.

No. You get what I'm saying? They're the second youngest team in the NBA, and we seen it last year. OKC finished number one in the West last year. They went home in second round. So, I've been saying this since they've been winning because they actually, I didn't think that they would stay

in first with Chet being out so long and they maintain that. But for now, the new step, even though you guys are young, is what are you gonna do in the playoffs? You finished first last year, you got eggs in the second round. You're probably gonna finish first or second this year, most likely first. What are you gonna do?

And these dangerous teams are gonna be at the bottom half of the playoffs. Speaking of the Warriors, the Warriors right at the trade deadline tried to go out and get Kevin Durant and the Suns were open to moving him. So fascinating. Kevin Durant had to find out from his podcast partner, Hey, this is a real thing. They are going to move you if you don't step in and say something. So ESPN's Malika Andrews yesterday

had a sit down with Kevin Durant and wanted to ask him like, hey, how did you feel about the Sons shopping you? And he had some fascinating quotes that I wanted to ask you guys about. So he said, cause she said, hey, what about the future with you and the Sons?

And he said, yeah, you should probably ask those guys, those front office guys about that, not me. But obviously when you pay so much for a team and we're not playing up to our expectation, somebody has to go. And OG, a guy who's very respected, former NBA player, Udonis Haslam came out today and said, Katie is as good as gone this summer. So Mace, what do you think if you're Kevin Durant, are you ready to

pack your bags and go somewhere else? Definitely. If they're, if they're shopping you behind your back and you're the type of player that Kevin Durant is once in a lifetime generational talent is is is is don't get any more disrespectful than that. And the GM's may feel disrespected that he's there and they're not winning on a level that they should. But again, this is this is Kevin Durant.

You know what I'm saying? This is a bucket anytime he gets the ball. So I mean any team will love to have him. And I think Haslam is just putting his bet in for the heat. I mean, I could see that as being a transitional place because they have the pieces that the sons would require to have them in in Miami. But I'm not sure if he would want to go there. But I don't think it's nothing wrong with Miami.

If you just want to be somewhere enjoyable, but if you still want to win, then I can see him going some other places. But being on the move this summer is probably a real thing. And he said he would not rule out coming back to Golden State. He just did not want to be traded in the middle of the season. Cam, what do you think? the Golden State, he just did not want to be traded in the middle of the season. Cam, what do you think? I'm gonna get a sit down with Kevin Durant.

That's what I'm gonna do. I'm calling Kevin, get the nigga nigga sit down. Not the politically correct sit down. We're gonna go smoke some weed and get the real sit down. Yo, Rich Climbing, I'm gonna call you later on today because we not doing politically correct. We gonna do nigga nigga interview with Kev. I'm gonna call you later on today because we not doing politically correct. We gonna do nigga, nigga interview with Kev. I'm gonna fly out to Phoenix and do what I do.

But off this topic right here, I think Kevin, pardon me, Kevin Durant was very mature with his answer. That's a really mature answer for a person as good as him. But not winning at this point, people don't wanna have people going to move. I think that after Luca, after that Luca situation with AD, that people is like, oh, we back to this.

Yeah, fuck that. Let's see what we can do. And I think that's where GMs, especially owner Matt Ishabu, is that what I'm saying? Is that right? Ishbe. Ishbe is a new owner with the Phoenix Suns. Kevin Durant was there when he was there.

Even though Kevin Durant's relatively new with the Suns. Matt Ishbe inherited Kevin Durant, inherited Devin Booker. And that's, you can tell by the coaches, it's being fired. I don't know if he's a great basketball mom. Me and Mesa actually met him when we was in Phoenix. Really cool dude, really nice guy. But he may be impatient.

He may, I have to do a background check on him because he's like, I wanna win now. And especially if you're a new owner in the NBA, everybody's not gonna be Jerry B Bus and win the first year. And when you're in that type of competition, you gotta think about it. If you're not around basketball minds, and when I say basketball minds,

people who know the game, and you're around businessmen or people who's casual, that's the word, casual fans of the game, and they don't know the in-depth shit, down businessmen or people who's casual, that's the word, casual fans of the game, and they don't know the in-depth shit, and you're just singing out with your business partners, and they're like, didn't you pay fucking two billion for this fucking team? What the fuck?

And I thought KD was the fucking best ever, and then you got Devin Booker, and then Bradley, what the fuck? Why are we in left play? When you're in that room with the good old boys, and they're telling you, yo, I don't know. I thought we got some good shit. You're very impatient.

I don't know Matt's background with basketball, but you're not beginning to be a majority owner of a team from not having some business acrimate and being smart. I think he's very impatient. He wants to win now and then when you get that team with those names on it and it's not working, he's gonna rush and do something else. And it may end up worse making the wrong decision. Yeah, I think for the money he's spending,

you can't tell me to be patient with the money you're spending with Bradley Bradley bill Kevin the rent and Booker That's a lot of bread being spent and definitely to be out of the playoffs. Come on Yeah, and you know, I have somebody's imagine killer You is spinning you spending billions on on these players and then they're like I got a no trade You like you really want to be hit and play like it, like, cause you can't just say you stand here and we're not winning. Eventually we got, we got to win.

And I don't say that at any one of the players, but if you want to keep this team together, you definitely got to win. I think is a bad fit for exactly what I was saying about Golden State. You're dealing with three players that all need the ball. You pause, you gotta have other people that could just run around, catch and shoot, don't need to have the ball for over eight seconds to get a basket. And when you don't have that, it's just even though they're all great players, they don't compliment each other well.

Well, and if you're Matt Ishbia, you mentioned the fact that like, okay, he's paying so much money, he shouldn't be patient, but really they're in the fucked up situation they're in because of him. Like two days into him being the owner is when they traded for Kevin Durant. That was his first order of business,

four first round picks to trade for KD, and then you're all of a sudden, okay, we're gonna make another move to get Bradley Beal, who you know is an overpaid player, you know that he's declining, and you traded a bunch of second round picks for him, and you know he has a no trade clause, and they got rid of a ton of depth in the way of doing that,

and so he's kinda got nobody else to blame but himself, and now it feels like they're to a point where, if you're the sons and you wanna get out of the situation, you've gotta trade everybody. It's not just Kevin Durant that you need to think about trading. It's Devin Booker that you need to think about trading as well, maybe to a place like Houston,

who has been salivating paws for him for the last probably 12 months. Yeah. That's a really good point. Absolutely. But, you could be the owner of Philly spending that money. Be happy, man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that money that's being spent in Philly, like Mase was just saying,

you want to win now. If you just spent that money they spent in Philly, they was not expecting the season to happen. But if you got a superstar on your team, you're going to be spending that type of money. But Mase is right, three different players, which Philly has, and you pay them niggas, and the results aren't there. You might be impatient. It happens. I would have never traded for, I would have never traded for I would have never traded for Bradley bill if I had KD and KD and Booker I would have definitely looked for a point guard. I would have definitely looked for a big, you know and

To go get those same those same players was just a bad idea because they all wing players Now I would have looked for a point guard that could just play solid defense and can hit the three. Because if you're trying to win, you got to be able to spread the floor. You can't spread the floor with people that don't move and need the ball. It just is not, it doesn't work that way. All you're going to be doing is ISO ball. And that's probably what they've been trying. And after a while that doesn't work. Well we gotta hit this

break and when we return we'll talk a little bit about money. The cheapest stingiest franchise in the NFL did what? We'll be back right after this. There's the 3 p.m. with Sachi and that and that shit can you rearrange my calendar? You are an hour late. You know me. You're a bad girl. Just be careful of your move. It's daddy, he loves me very much.

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Hey. If I were some other feel, no matter what they were. This is crazy. Do you trust me? Don't worry honey. I'm gonna go for you, I'm gonna be looking for somewhere else. You don't owe me like you think you do. Welcome back. It's time to go over our underdog fantasy picks of the day.

So we are going to talk a little bit about the NFL moving forward. One of the conversations that I want to get to at the end of the show is about the Eagles, whether they can continue their dominance. So underdog has some future numbers for the Eagles that I wanted to get you guys' info on. Last year, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hertz had 18 passing touchdowns. Next year, underdog has the line set at 19 and a half passing touchdowns. Mace, what do you think? Over. Hey, wait, wait, Kim, is that why you wore that green today?

No, it's for the money. day? No, it's for the money. I thought y'all guys were gonna troll me on this. It wasn't a title town troll, I promise. How many? 19 and a half. 19.

I'm gonna go higher. I'm gonna go higher. Yeah, I think that I'm gonna definitely go higher. I think that they, when I say they, a lot of analysts, not just analysts, I think the coaching staff, honestly, my opinion, looked at Jalen Hurst as a game manager and saying, we're gonna work our offense through the run, of course, because they had Saquon Barkley,

but they didn't look at him as a passing quarterback like that. He uses his legs, not saying that he's Action Jackson down there in Baltimore, but he's very good using his legs, running and scrambling. But after the performance that he had in the Super Bowl, they're gonna dial up some more stuff for him. Besides his receivers, you got Devontae Smith,

you got AJ Brown, it makes no sense for him to have only 19 passing touchdowns with that type of talent every season. Speaking of the Eagles, Saquon Barkley had a record season in Philly, 18 rushing touchdowns, but Underdog is looking for him to come back to Earth. They've set the line for 20-25 rushing TDs at 10 and a half. Cam, are you going higher or lower?

Sometimes what happened as well and direct heavy benefits from this and that's a good one because Philly does the push-touch pause and a lot of times not just Philly, I'm talking about players, you'll get there and get inside the tent, off a pass and whatever you get it. And you got a running back who'll finish the job off. I'm gonna go higher, but I think teams will be prepared, more prepared for him next season

than they were this season. Someone like the Super Bowl, they shut Saquon down, and that's just according to what he done all year. But they figured out another way to win. But I don't think it'll be the season that he had. Will he have a lot of yards? See, that's the thing about it. Yard is in touchdowns.

It's a bunch of niggas, and I'm not talking about Philly, get down to the two, you got to receive and play and get down to the two and then you hand it off so that the person gets the touchdown. The person who did the 70 yard work don't get attributed a credit for the touchdown. More of the story is I'm gonna go higher than 10 now. Yeah, I'm going higher too.

Even when we was talking about Jalen Hurts, I think for this exact reason is the reason why he's gonna get more touchdowns, even Jaylen Hurst, is because people are going to be trying to stop Saquon like what they did in the Super Bowl. But when it comes down to Saquon, I think the the momentum of being a champion comes with a new confidence and he's going to be looking forward to definitely not declining. confidence and he's going to be looking forward to definitely not decline it. That's the first thing you look for when people win a championship is how are they going to come back the next year and you know you can't go lower than what you was last year. So I will go higher.

All right. I wanted to get you guys' thoughts on this yesterday, the beginning of the NFL franchise tag window and after last season's super dramatic off season with T Higgins, the Cincinnati Bengals decided to franchise tag him again for the second year in a row. And remember, he asked for a trade during last off season. Things look like it might get ugly again. His mom tweeted that she is super unhappy calling them selfish

bastards. Tee wants an extension around 30 million dollars a year. Mace, how do you think that this is gonna work out for the Bengals this season and what do you think about a team holding an elite player hostage like this against their will if they're not going to pay him. I would let Cam talk about this first because this is Ohio business. This is true. I like Cincinnati team. What this says to me is that they take care of the white people in Cincinnati Bengals

and give the black players a hard fucking time. It wasn't no problem motherfucking getting Joe Burrows his extension when he's having gave it to him when he's fucking coming off of injury as well. Game is money. Jamar Chase need his money? Y'all don't know where the money's at. T Higgins need his money?

Y'all don't know where the money at. Who the fuck is Joe Burrow gonna pass the ball to if y'all don't know where the money's at. T Higgins needs money, y'all don't know where the money at. Who the fuck is Joe Burrow gonna pass the ball to if y'all don't get this shit together? Now franchise tag, I'm doing this, Tetris, I like the, unless you know of Topiak, because you're very statistical, you know shit. How many years, because now, I know it's a little, how many years could a team franchise tag you?

Because that's the- You think it's two back to back. Yeah, because it's like, bro, imagine your contract is up murdering, you play, you know, we'll put this in basketball terms, and you play for the Wizards. Yeah. And you're like, I'm out.

I'm outta here. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're not going anywhere. You're here to suffer some more in Washington, DC with the six and 76 record that they're gonna end up having. I'm exaggerating, of course. But a person who made a living,

and I know this is not the same position, but Kirk Cousins made a living off of being a franchise tag. And for those that don't know how much franchise tag, how franchise tag works is this, just for our audience. They take the top five receivers and average their salary out and give you the average that year of what their salary is. Now, T. Higgins may not want that money.

He may want more than, like, would you say, he asked for 30? Yeah, right now the franchise tag would pay him 26 million. So 4 million less than he would get paid and a shorter term deal, obviously. Yeah, and that's the next thing you want a longer term deal because when you have a franchise tag as well, what if you get hurt? So you're on a one year deal and then you fuck around and get hurt and you didn't get the contract that you wanted to get. Cincinnati, you got to clean this shit up, bro.

You got to clean it up because it's starting to look racist. Yeah, it's starting to look real racist, man. You take care of Joe Burrows, you don't want to give Jamar chase. I believe that even though you finished with the with the Triple Crown or whatever the fuck is called for receivers, I believe that. The Cincinnati Bengals would have had a much better year because Joe Burrows had an MVP season, defense just wasn't living up to par.

But I believe because of Jamar Chase's attitude, and I'm not mad at him, I would have the same attitude as him, that it brought a funk around the team organization for the first two to three weeks. And that was detrimental moving on. A lot of their games, I forget what it was, but they lost a lot of games by one score. And I think that all this stuff lingering

in the front office with the GMs, with the owners, it lingers with the players. And I seen Joe Burrow step up for his players, at least Jamar Chase will say, in the politest way he can, you know, you need to pay these niggas. Who the fuck am I gonna throw to? The defense fucking sucks. I can't throw it to myself.

What the fuck are we doing? Clean it up out there because next thing you know, I'm not even Dr. Umar. You're gonna get them type niggas. Well, real quick before you give your take mace I do want to say Trey Hendrickson white guy also looking for his money Things will get real suspect if Trey Hendrickson is the next one to get paid Yeah, you go and I think behind the scenes there there's been some rumors about his ankle and

They always bring that up when it's time to pay you, you know, because I was thinking about that. How was I going to relay this information? Because it definitely looked like a here you go, another black guy can't get his money when he need to. And then we have all these reasons why we could pay everybody else. But it did come out that that his ankle was questionable and they may look at it like, well, you're hurt and we're giving you the franchise tag with you being hurt.

And that's why we need to interview the mother. So whatever her name is, we need you to, we need, we need to reach out to her to have on it is what it is. I would love to hear her take on why she called them some selfish, you know. Yeah, and the thing about it as well, if you don't believe in me and my ankle, let me the fuck go. Your franchise size and the hurt ankle.

You're gonna put a franchise sag on my hurt ankle? Yeah, let me out if that's the case. That's how you really feel. Let me go figure it out in San Diego or something. Pardon me, LA of now. Chargers or somebody, fuck with Justin Herbert or something. Since y'all niggas don't know what that's all about. Why they letting go like really good receivers?

It make no sense. They think, well, and we'll talk about this a little bit later, is that some franchises, and obviously you had Tampa Bay who had an awesome receiving corps, but the Patriots always devalued wide receivers. And the Kansas City Chiefs have devalued wide receivers. So they think if you have an elite quarterback and a good defense, that should be enough. You know, Cincinnati, I don't know how many people know this, but it's just them and the

Lakers in terms of franchises and sports that make all their money from the franchise. They have no other sources of revenue. So they are always cheap to their players. One of the best safeties in the league, Jesse Bates, left for Atlanta because Cincinnati was fucking around with his money. And that became very contentious for him as well in one of the off seasons where he was sitting up in the stands not even wanting to go to training camp,

not even wanting to be with the team, because they held him hostage as well. So I am not surprised that Cincinnati does this at all. But you can't hold up to a person's money who averaged a first down, you know? He averaged 12, 12, 5. T. Akins is nice, bro. T. Akins is nice, but I remember Trish,

it's funny that you said that, because I met Trish on Instagram and we became friends and that's how we kind of all connected with mates and everybody on the show. But I seen the post you did a few months ago and you was like, yo, the Lakers are running a mom and pop walk in this station. She said they ain't get no chicken nowhere else.

Genie Buss don't got no other businesses. Jim Buss ain't doing nothing. She said, yo, they running a mom and pop organization over there. No, that's facts. They are. No, I did the due diligence after you said it, but the fact you called it mom and pop was hilarious.

But like you said, these other owners have other businesses. And that's what I was talking about, Matt and Phoenix, that he might be sitting in the shop box with some niggas that's billionaires of real estate or something else. And they're like, we could have bought some more buildings. What the fuck did you cop this for? You know, you understand what I'm saying?

So when you did say that about the Lakers, I remember you calling the niggas mom and pop, and I didn't know until you just said it, the Cincinnati's mom and pop. So they like, yo, that's a nigga who own the strip club and be like halfway through the night, they just start taking shit out the register and putting shit in they pocket

just to get theirs out the way. So that's good information, but no, I didn't know that. Yeah, there was a, also I wanted to, before we get done with the show, and I'm not trolling you, Mase, at all, because we were talking about just like the blueprint of contenders, and a lot of times they devalue

the wide receiver position, and they value the defense. I think this is super interesting right now because also quarterbacks on rookie deals or really team-friendly deals are kind of the blueprint for becoming dynasties. But you've got the Eagles now who not only have a quarterback on a super team-friendly deal, but a whole nasty defense that's super young.

And AJ Brown is on a team friendly deal, Devontae Smith on a team friendly deal. So they're almost like a supersized version of that blueprint. Do you think Mace that the world is sort of sleeping on Philly becoming the next dynasty and taking the reins from title town, Kansas City? Title town is not just Kansas City. It's, it's a City. It's a movement. It's a mindset.

Yeah. I'll get a mustache. You got to look at this wrap. This is just. I knew he was going to hate on the concept. The concept. The Title Town, I said this in the early in the year, Title Town was on the move

There's Larry now you on your phone, too With the camera on like he gonna act like he on his phone Larry. I told you guys Title town was on the move You don't remember that no Okay You don't remember that? No, I don't remember that. Okay. Yeah, I remember that. I remember you said you're not watching games because the titles goes through the AFC and it didn't go through the AFC. Hey, sometimes Vegas have to do what Vegas have to do and I don't mind that because I know the money is involved. We know that game was rigged. Are y'all still believing that?

That was fake news. Will we watch? It's not a domination on every level. They beat Patrick Mahomes to fuck up like he stole something. Yeah, they got it. It was all voodoo doll. It was just so much that you just know. They was trolling us, man. So it's us again.

So I'm glad you said that. You said us. Yeah, OK. So it's us again. And so I'm glad you said that. You said us. Yeah. Okay. So it's Kansas City. No, I meant the people. They were trolling all of us as a collective sports team. They were trolling us. Don't say that n******. I mean, Philly got the team, but if you know anything about Philly, you know something gonna go wrong.

It's too many n****s. You know? I mean, Philly got the team, but if you know anything about Philly, you know something gonna go wrong. It's too many niggas, you know? Something gonna go wrong. You seen they press conference at the parade? What'd they say? They couldn't stop cursing.

The TV kept saying, we're sorry. We're sorry. Yo, when they did the parade, them all them niggas got up there and started cursing the TV, Fox 5, or whoever was covering it. Like, oh, we are sorry. Yo, when they did the parade, the all them niggas got up there and started cursing the TV, Fox 5, or whoever was covering like, oh, we're sorry. They said sorry like 19 times.

I was gonna go to the parade, you know? I was invited, but you know, I didn't wanna show up with my outfit on, you know? All your Kansas City gear. You see they beat the dude up who went to the Kansas City parade? He had a Chiefs jersey on, they beat his ass. And Philly?

Did you see that they had horses? They should have, they should have. They had like, they brought their own horses to the parade. They were just random people with their random, like just general horses that they went down to Philly. That was so strange to me. No, but to your question, right? What is it again is Philly primed to take over no

No, no and don't say their title town for all of you watching you don't get one title in green And now your title town Like six years ago, Murdo. It's two titles. I know, but this ain't the quarterback that did that. But it's the French side. So I'm just asking. So that's why I'm telling you Title Town is on the move

because you have to win two. You can't just win one in green. Hear this? Philadelphia, Boston, Celtics. He's got to win more than one. It's the only title town. Cause he has more than one. He would be considered on the other side of title town. There's two sides is the urban side.

And then, you know, where you be at. I have real estate on both sides. Kill me. I was just asking. You're going to ask all the wrong questions. I was just asking. I'm on both sides. Okay, no problem.

They accept me on both sides. I was just asking. You said urban. I didn't know where you was going with it. If you're not urban, I know if you still are urban. No sense that niggas get watered down outside of North. If niggas was urban or not. You're the ultimate Crip and Blood. What you say, man?

So you're the ultimate Crip and Blood. What you say, man? So you're the ultimate Crip and Blood. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes there's a sad thing is global gangsters, you know? They transcend color. Do you think that Philly's going to win another title with this roster, Mace? I'm holding your feet to the fire. Will they win another one? They they probably could but not not next year not next year. I think that's a bit much. I Think Philly played really good luck the year that they lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl

They had a great year the next year they stunk it up then they had average and then they had a this year, then next year they stunk it up. Then they had an average day, then they had a... This year when the actual season started, they weren't playing great. But as the season progressed, they started looking great. If they could take this energy off the Super Bowl, and look, we got a long layoff, we got another five, six months to a football, then possibly. But I think we all need to chill the fuck out and just let shit play out. We're so thirsty for a three-peat or this team went undefeated or they the next dynasty. Let shit play out and see what happens. I know it's our job to predict this and see

and say, yeah, they are going to be the next 90. I think they can do it. But I've seen so many soundbites of niggas dissing Jaylen Hurts. It was ridiculous how many soundbites niggas was going in on Jaylen Hurts in the middle of the season. And now all these niggas look stupid. Yeah, I ain't like that. Yeah, so as far as them becoming the dynasty, they actually literally have the potential.

But football is not basketball. Football is any given Sunday, If everybody's not there, we don't know who's gonna get injured throughout the season. We don't know who's gonna be available for the playoffs. It's a lot of things to go into football. You got a team like the commanders who sat there and say, look, we was one win away from winning the Super Bowl, which they wasn't.

I'm talking about the way that Philly dominated the Kansas City Chief. You think Jayden Daniels and them, they sitting there like, we got something. They're young. The Lions are gonna wanna come back and redeem theirself. Buffalo is gonna wanna come back and redeem theirself. And Lamar Jackson wanna come down and redeem theirself.

I think me personally, after the way Philly beat Kansas City Even though it was an NFC team that ended up beating Kansas City. I think that gives Josh Allen's and the Lamar Jackson's Like oh, no, these niggas ain't like that No, no, we we own these niggas next year. Fuck these niggas, they not like that. We like that. Yeah. And that's confidence that they seen in that game that'll be installed next season.

So as far as Philly could be, no, to get to answer your question, sorry Trish, I will have to wait and see. If you're holding my feet to the fire, I'm gonna say no. Because we're sitting there ready to call Kansas City a dynasty. They repeated and everything, and we know that Patrick Mahomes has three Super Bowls. To me, you have to win four.

Three is great, but if you win four, it's a dynasty. Now, when you have somebody like the Lakers, I say they're a dynasty, when I'm not talking about, of course, the eighties Lakers was, but I'm talking about Shaq and Kobe because they did it back to back to back. When you start missing the years and everything else and the time period goes on forever, it starts not being a dynasty. And we was all saying Kansas City's a dynasty. And I don't know how people feel about them right now as being a dynasty.

Is Patrick Morrone still the best quarterback in the league? Yes, is Andy Reid probably top three coaches in the league? Absolutely. But they let so many people go saying, we got Andy, we got Pat. They don't need Tyreek Hill. We don't need this person. We don't need that person.

And they're gonna need to gather some people. So I'm not gonna jump the gun and say, Philly's the next dynasty, but they absolutely have the potential to be. Yeah, and I think to your point, the part about Philly that's so exciting to me as someone who's not a huge Philly fan as a whole, but you look at Howie Roseman and how he's drafted, right?

11 of their Super Bowl starters were how he picks. Seven of those picks were in the last three years, which is just insane. So his ability to find value up and down the board, no matter where they draft, you just feel like they're just gonna continue to keep stacking up like their cupboards and not fall to the wayside like how Kansas City sort of has.

Letting guys leave, letting the defense sort of get older, the offensive line kind of get crushed. We saw how often Patrick Mahomes was on his back during the Super Bowl pause. So yeah, I think it's definitely. Who's your team Trish? Remember I'm a Cowboys fan. Oh my God. I'm a sad, sad.

You don't have no right to be talking about football right now. Nah, but I like Trish because she's not Michael Irvin. She accepts the fact that they are who they are. She's not out here. She's not a fanatic of the Cowboys. She's like, I'm stuck with these niggas. I'm stuck. I'm like more Troy Aikman than Michael Irvin.

Like I'm sickened by them. Just hate them. But, I mean, I'm stuck, I'm stuck. But we are stuck having to leave, because the time is up, we've gotta go. Let us know in the comments, what did you think about today's show? Give us your thoughts on whether

Tidal Town is coming to Philly. Is it a state of mind? Is it a location? Is it a location? Is it a location? What side of the street is Mace living on in Tidal Town? On which day, on which days of the week? Sometimes Golden Corral, sometimes the Wynn Buffet. Okay, Jen, Jen Liley.

Man, I was for sin. Sin is crazy, man. That's all the time that we have for today. The Golden Corral. Golden Corral Slaps. I had an absolute blast. As always, it is what it is. It is what it is.