IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE STREETS ARE SAYING MA$E AND CAM'RON JINX THE KNICKS & LARSA PIPPEN EXPLAINS HERSELF

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, was it a bigger comeback or choke job (pause) in game 1 between the Pacers and Knicks with Indiana's INSANE win. Then, SGA finally wins the MVP of the NBA's 2025 Season, when will an American player win it after the last 7 have been International players. Lastly, Larsa Pippen says she had Covid Brain and Killa went OFF! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MASE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus funds with your first deposit! Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus funds with your first deposit and a free pick.

I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Cam, what's up, man? Mourda, what's good, man? How you? Good, man. I see you ain't got your Nick gear on today. I had it, man. But I had it ready, man.

But I can't do this, man. You see brand new shit. We have to put this away. We have to put this. But don't say I wasn't ready. We have to put this away for a minute. Nick's still Nick in church sets. Nick's is still Nick in.

I was saying you and I said, them and the Knicks, I know. Yeah, yeah, the church, this is what we've been traditionally used to. I had it ready, but... This is exactly... You decommitted on time too early.

Not on time. Yeah, he did. He decommitted on time too early. Not on time. Yeah, he did. He decommitted early. Yeah, title down. I knew what I was looking at, man. Wow. Yeah, we're going to start with that game. So the next lose to the Pacers, 137 to 135 in overtime.

The streets, whatever streets Mase was talking about, they talking about y'all jinxed them, but they talking about y'all jinxed the guests, they said this, now all of a sudden, Mason Kam wanna come on and wear their Knicks jersey and then they wanna lose first game, they blaming y'all. So one, what do you gotta say to those streets, and two, where did the Knicks go wrong? Mase said the ghetto.

First of all, when you say the ghetto, that's like James FNC, it's like late 70s, not the hood, not the trap, nigger went to the ghetto. But go ahead Murda, what you gotta say to the people who say me, James? Oh man, well what I say, there's something going on in the building, first of all. I don't know what happened on that property.

What is that? What is that? There's really some bad energy in that building. I don't know, because the basketball guards saw this. You know, when you think of the ball bouncing, and then the ball bounces straight in, it's just like somebody saying, you know what, I'm not gonna change this. No, no, we gonna get to the game. What do you guys say about niggas saying we didn't jinx?

Oh, I jinxed them. Directly, not you. Me too, or just you? Mace and Cam, y'all jinxed the Knicks. The only way I could have jinxed it is if I pulled my title town blessing from it. Cause I'd say, you know what? I stopped last week. I told you this.

I mean, a few days ago, I told you I'm not, this is where I get out of the car like, Trey. Let me out. Let me out, dope. Let me out, dope. Call me a sucker or whatever you want. This is where I get out the car. Let me out.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. He definitely got out. Got out the whip. Yeah. So? So, people, so to me? How they came, Jason, because I got out the whip. Yeah. So? So people, so to me. How they care if Jinx,

because I wanted out the whip. My whole shit is so, who been jinxing them for 53 years? I'm just saying, nigga act like we stopped the jinx. You know what jinxing is? All right, look, I told niggas,

niggas gonna lose this first game. I got niggas win the series, but it's the way time tipped over on number grand, but we gonna get into the game. But as far as the jinx, don't blame me for the Jinx or murder for the Jinx. You know who Jinx the Knicks?

Y'all Jinx the Knicks. And when I say y'all the city, and we're New Yorkers too, but what did they do? I don't know if you've seen this murder. They put everybody's jersey and put it on the street. So Josh Hart is number three. Under West Third Street is Josh Hart is number three. Under West 3rd Street is Josh Hart Place. 11th, number 11 is Jalen Brunson.

West 11th Street was Jalen Brunson Avenue. They, did you see that? They were going crazy. Did you see it? No. But I'm just saying, so basically the star of five, Carl Ney 10, 32nd Street, under every New York City sign street they put

Carl Anthony Towns. What are y'all doing? Why would you name streets after niggas for making it to the Eastern Conference Finals? Not winning it yet. They just made it and y'all name it streets after niggas? This how desperate New York is for a basketball championship, Pete. This what I'm saying. Yo Pete, I'm not, I think niggas should Google this if y'all haven't Googled it. They named all the streets after the star five. 25th street was McHale Bridges.

Shit is bananas. Blame that shit. You cannot do that this early, man. Don't, you know what I'm saying now, it's me and Murdafore. All right, heard you. Yeah. I mean, when you say somebody jinxed it, that means their winning is under our power. So are you really saying that the winning of the Knicks is under my power?

I don't think you're saying that. Okay. Well, I just, you know, told y'all what they saying. They're gonna want to know if you guys have the power to let them win game two. That's gonna be another thing as well, but. You remember, I remember the last rapper that had the power to curse a team was,

what was his name, B, Lil B. He put a curse on Golden State and they couldn't, and Kevin Durant couldn't win until he lifted the curse. You remember that? Was his name Lil B or something like that? I don't follow Lil B. I don't follow Lil B. Whoever it is in the chat, put the name up there

so I make sure I say it correct. Yeah, I don't follow the N in that sense. They confirmed it is Lil B. It was Lil B. He told Kevin Durant he wasn't gonna win until he lifted the curse and he was from California. And then when KD got out there, he won. So you're saying you have to lift the curse

in order for the Knicks to win this. Is that what you're saying? Cam is gonna have to lift the curse. I ain't got, I don't have the spiritual power that murder has. I'm not gonna act like I have the power that he has. So don't even tell my jinx to nobody. Blame the city for speeders.

Y'all niggas is speeding. Something went on in that building we don't know about. Some day it's gonna come out because they be having too much bad fortune, you know? Too much bad outcomes. Okay, so now let's talk about the game. Where did the Knicks go wrong? A few places the Knicks went wrong

They played a very great game up into I would say the fourth quarter even in a third quarter It looked like they was going back and forth the game was still really closed potentially But then when you get to the fourth quarter they're up for for, I remember they was up 10 points. And that's when, um, Jalen Brunson caught the fifth foul. That's when the whole game pretty much changed. And if I'm, if I'm not correct, then, then it could be different. But I know when he got that fifth foul, that's when the game changed. Oh, OG goes on a run, goes on his own run for about 10 points, you know, and they was up 10 points, then you, and they was up 10 points.

Then you got other players making phenomenal plays. And then at one point, they was up like 12 or 14. Then it's amazing that when when Brunson gets back in the game, now did now the game start changing because he's he's he's playing amazingly. But the team is different when the ball is flowing. They're actually team is different when the ball is flowing. They're actually a better team when the ball is flowing, but Jalen Brunson does so well on the ball that everybody like to see that. Like he has 40 points, but they're losing. And to make a long story short, this game should have been won in regular time and regular season time.

When, when, when, um, Halliburton got that step back and he hit that shot, I was like, wow, I thought it was game. So I saw his foot on the line. That saved them. That really saved them. And when he went to the basket one time on OG, and it seemed like he had to change his shot in the air. And then he got that layup. Immediately at that point, I realized the whole NBA has been hating on Halliburton saying

that he's an overrated player. There is no way in the world that kid is overrated. He might be my new favorite player in the NBA right now. Yeah, listen, man, before I even get to the game, to the points you're making, the last two, three days, if you don't think he here to chirp in, everybody's doing.

Niggas are saying, yo, it's only three superstars left in every, I was listening to some other shows yesterday morning and the disrespect for Tyrese Halliburton is at an all time high. They're saying, yo, they was saying, it was a question on first take, shout out to my brothers,

Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A. Smith, but it was a question up there. And they said, who's stock would rise highest with a title? And basically, the question, you know, everybody, they got Mad Dog up there, I never met Mad Dog, shout out to Mad Dog. Yeah, he's hilarious. Hilarious, he's the only one who said sorry,

he's Halliburton. Everybody's saying Anthony Edwards or Jalen Brunson or whatever. But Mad Dog to me had the best point. He's saying, look, if you're saying that you got three superstars and this kid isn't, and he wins the title, why wouldn't his stock rise? The highest.

Right, and Kendrick Perkins was like, well, you know, if any of these other teams win, you know who's getting the MVP. Tyler Burton may not get the MVP if he wins. I'm saying Steph Curry been in six championships and only got one final as MVP. Like, and sometimes it's done by committee. And if you think I'm hearing this

and Tyrese Halliburton don't, you're out your mom, man. It's bananas, man. But to the actual game, Mason, you just gave a great breakdown. I hate to agree with you, because I like picking your shit apart and making me look better. But you just gave an excellent synopsis of the game.

Think about this, Jalen Brunson goes out with four or five fouls, I think it was five fouls, with about 10 minutes, nine minutes left in the fourth quarter. The Knicks go on a 12-0 run without him in the game. They still sustain the lead, he gets back in about five minutes left. They're up about seven, eight points where he gets back in.

But that's about relying on the superstar for me too much and not chemistry. Me personally, and I'm not gonna say this because I'm not in that position to say it. And I don't know if when I did play basketball, if I'm not mature as I am today to be like, why put me in, even if I'm the superstar, like, this is working.

Put me in if you see shit not working. This is awfully working. If you think about it, or not even think about it, if you look at it, Jalen Brunson in this game is a minus eight. He had 43 points, but when he's on the floor, it's a minus eight. Not only that, he's a defensive liability.

You see, during these timeouts and everything else, they were taking him out on defensive plays because he's a liability on defense, as good as he is offensively. And I'm not saying that he shouldn't be playing this, that, and the third, but if the chemistry is going to get on a 12-nothing run, not only 12-nothing run, then they finished it out before he got back in the 17-to-six run.

Obviously, trust your bench or whoever's in the game. Tibbs has a problem doing that, trusting people outside of starters to me, outside of McBride. And this is the penalty that you have to pay. These niggas look tired in the second quarter. I see niggas leaned over, holding their shorts in the second quarter.

Y'all gonna run now, even if y'all want to win this five games, and you know they gonna get one in the end, so now we talking about six games is minimal. How are these niggas gonna win the next round if they wanna get to the next round, running these things, and it's too late now. Don't even try it now, it's just too late. You gotta do what you gotta do to the next round, running these things, and it's too late now. Don't even try it now. It's just too late.

You gotta do what you gotta do with the people that you have on the floor. So we sit there and think about Indiana, right? Star five, everybody in double digits. Siakam did what he's supposed to do. Miles Turner, Em Hart, Tyrese Halliburton, really good. TJ McConnell came in, played excellently. Obie Top, and I can't say enough about him. Ex-Nick.

Ex-Nick came in. But we can't leave out Neesmith. Neesmith saved the motherfucking game, bro. He had 20 in the fourth quarter, five threes in the fourth quarter, eight threes total. But when niggas thought it was over, he's shooting free. Boom. Boom.

Boom, because it's like no pressure, because you think the game's over. But before you know it, the game's not motherfucking over. Everybody in the garden high-fiving. I see niggas hugging. I see niggas giving, yo, where you been?

You got to be going. I can't hear you. I meet you. All that's going on. And they not paying attention to these threes. These niggas was up 14 points with a little bit over two minutes left. And then, and, and Neesmith just went on fire.

Then Tyrese Halliburton comes down and he's getting ready to go to the basket. He see Mitchell Robinson there. He like, you know what? Fuck this shit. We gonna lose the win on my merit. Goes back, shoots the three, or at least we all thought it was a three,

and gets the bounce, it was a two, go to overtime. And then, shit man. Now listen, this was when I'm just, you know I usually get my analysts about the game, but this was such an, I jumped off my couch at least six, seven times, started calling niggas, niggas calling me. Shit was crazy.

So, I'm just was an emotional roller coaster cause I'm like, yo, this is wild just to see some good basketball. You think about, and that's another thing. I don't know if you paid attention, Murda. I don't know if niggas listen to me. Niggas had their out of bounds plays today. Niggas lined up in formation.

Niggas was in the back court like a football play. I said, niggas been practicing them out of bounce play as y'all should. But it was a point where they inbounded the ball. Jalen Brunson gets trapped. He tried to hit it off somebody's foot. It bounces, it's almost a turnover, but the Knicks recover it.

Another inbounds play, Josh Hart slipped. The pace is almost still bad. Then they don't put the Knicks. Yeah, that was a bad play. Right, but they kept possession. But it was a few times the Knicks actually, uh, could have fucked up, but, you know, they had a few bad things go wrong.

But Indiana played 48 minutes, and it turned out to be 53 minutes. And that's what it's about. The game is over in 53 minutes. Even to the play, and that's another thing, we have to start looking at coach comparisons, too. That's what it's about. The game is over in 53 minutes, even to the plate. And that's another thing. We have to start looking at coach comparisons too. Rick Carlisle to Tom Thibodeau.

I know I'm all over the place today. The shit was wild. Nah, because I used to go to the East O'Lough place. Rick Carlisle is a championship coach. Let's think about this. Let's think about this, right? We be talking about this nigga, Nico, from Dallas, right? You better, you better, you better make a comeback this year.

I know you got Calvary and you're gonna get the number one draft and Anthony Davis, everything else. We gotta think about how, I don't know exactly the ins and outs because everybody kept it, you know, friendly and so on and so forth. Rick Carlisle got Dallas their first championship. Rick Carlisle exited the Dallas Mavericks

because to me, and I don't know facts of anything behind this, Luca and Rick Carlisle wasn't getting along and they sided with the superstar player at the time. So Rick Carlisle leaves and he's an Indiana now. He's been doing a tremendous job since he been there. You don't want, you to argue over a few million dollars with Jalen Brunson.

You don't want to give Jalen Brunson the money. Jalen Brunson's in the Eastern Conference Finals. You're sitting there with two people in the Eastern Conference Finals right now that you are under the radar for letting go, for a few million dollars here and there, which is not your money. You better pay it out for you, Nico. That's first and foremost. But you got OB Top in there. for a few million dollars here and there, which is not your money.

You better pay it out for you, Nico. That's first and foremost. But you got OB top in there. Back to the overtime. Overtime, Nick scored first four points, but then you get, what's my nigga name? I can't even think of this nigga name. I'm so sorry.

It's like- OG? Nah, Nimrod. He hit it three. Yeah. Bought him with a one. And then they end up taking lead. They're going back and forth. The ball goes out of bounds.

That's what I was getting to before I was thinking about Nico. Using your playbacks or, The challenge. The challenge, ego murder, sorry. Using your challenge at the right time. Yo, this nigga, Tibetto uses his shit with 10 minutes left in the third

and loses it so you don't have another challenge. The nigga Rick Carlisle saved his challenges for the right time. It was a play in regulation where they said Siakam fouled somebody on the Knicks, but they go to the replay, it's a block. Now Indiana gets the ball., but they go to the replay, it's a block. Now Indiana gets the ball.

Another challenge where they called the ball out of bounds on Indiana, and you see Jalen Brunson, like, come on, let's take it out, take it out, hurry up, let's take it out. Nah, hold on, replay, nigga, challenge. It ends up being out on Jalen Brunson. That's a testament to Rick Carlisle using his challenges at the right time.

You don't, even if you think you're correct, it leaves situations where the game may be close. You don't want to use it with 10 minutes left in the third quarter. Everything Rick Carlisle did was when the game situations with these challenges, and he won both of his challenges, and no shit sealed the deal. Congratulations to the Pacers, man.

And what I said about this game was yesterday, is that the moment may be too big for New York and I expect them to lose the first game, but win the series. The moment was too big for Indiana until two minutes was left in regulation. And they said, let's calm the fuck down. And Neesmith took things into the matter of his own hands.

And niggas like Halliburton said, all right, fuck it, if this is what we doing, let's calm the fuck down. And Neesmith took things into the matter of his own hands. And niggas like Halliburton said, all right, fuck it, if this is what we're doing, let's do it. And I wanna give a lot of credit to Siakam as well, because what happens is also in the modern NBA, you're down four points, you miss a shot, you're down, then they go down, hit a layup, you're down six, then they hit a three,

now you're down nine points. Your automatic reflex is to go back and shoot at three. And then you miss. Siaka was the only one when the Knicks went on that run trying to get to the basket, whether his shot was getting blocked, turned over or whatever. Just because you go, they go in a five, six, seven, eight,

nine, 10 run, that don't mean come down and check up threes. And they lucky it worked out. Their knee smith hit them joints. But that was one of the best games I've seen in a long time, to be totally honest with you. Yeah, definitely a really good matchup. And I think a lot of people are definitely excited to see game two.

So looking ahead, game two is Friday. Underdog has Jalen Brunson at 29 and 1.5 points. Give him higher or lower mace. 29 and 1.5 for J him higher or lower mace. 29 and a half for Jayler. Yeah, definitely higher. Okay. Yeah, Jayler, it ain't no choice. Ain't no choice. Jayler and Bruce are gonna have to get more than 30

for the more. He cannot afford to lose this next game. Yeah, if you wanna, I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't know who's gonna win the next game, but I'm just telling you right now that in order to have a chance, he had, look he had 42 tonight and they lost. Carl Anthony had 30, they lost.

Yeah, he ain't gonna have more than 29. What Jalen Brunson is gonna have to do, and I know he's playing both ends of the court as best he can, you can't put yourself in the foul trouble like you did and expect your team to prosper. You're a clutch player of the year. Even though y'all niggas got decent weapons,

you could trust OG to an extent, call Anthony to an extent, but you put yourself in foul trouble and you're not gonna win like that. But I do think he's gonna have higher than 29. Okay, Kat is at 36 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher? How much? 36 and a half.

I'm gonna go lower. I don't think he'll have the game he had tonight. He came out, he played exceptionally well. I give him the credit. I don't know if you've seen Murdered Nigga was crying after the game. Yeah. I don't like that. It's a game, I don't like that.

Why? Why? Yeah, why can he cry? First of all, it's game one. It's game one. Let's start here. Let's, all right, let's do a few things with why can't you cry? First of all, it's game one. Let's start here. Let's, all right, let's do a few things, but why can't you cry?

It's game one. That just lets me know that we could pause. If I'm playing against somebody in a seven game series and you crying after game one, I'm definitely making you cry after game two. Even if it's verbally, if I gotta start talking about whatever to make you cry, that's what I'm gonna do to make you cry. None, you know, none personal, none like that.

But you're crying after game one. You basically looking like, yo, it's over. Y'all niggas still got a chance to win. What are you crying for? Secondly, stat, I'm not from your sensitivity era. We talked about this already. I am not from the- Sensitivity era.

Yeah, I'm not from the Ralph Tresvier sensitivity era. I'm not crying, man. You're in the Joe's era. Nah, yeah, listen, bro. Call me Taz be Zesty sometime, man. You know, it just is what it is, man. You know, we heard him talking. I know.

Now, of course, he in New York, he the big bodega and all that shit. When he's in Minnesota, he's calling him Zesty and all that. But at the end of the day, you look Zesty crying in game one. That's just my personal opinion. He had a tremendous game, but to be crying after game one, cool.

And the reason that you can't cry, because it's game one and it makes you look weak going into game two. That's my personal opinion. I'll just add, I just feel like it shows passion. I get that though. No, no. When is the last time you all cried? No, keep it a hundred real quick before you answer that.

It's a crying, like when you mad crying, like, yeah, all right. Like when Mase just brought up Ice Cube, when boys and other, when they was going to kill the niggas, they killed his brother, that's the mad cry. The pout cry, like, nah, with a little snot come out, I'm not with that. Nah, I'm not with that cry. But murder, I don't know, when was the last time?

When was the last time you cried? Probably like, wow. That's a good question. Probably like 20-something years. What? When your son was born? Yeah. Just like, damn!

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, probably. When's the last time you cried? Probably two years ago my mom died, but outside at probably 20. 21, something like that. You don't cry tears of joy?

What is that? What? Tears of joy. Yo, what? This is crazy. Oh, no. I've heard of that term, but I've never seen somebody crying because of it.

Wow. No, I cried when we beat Lincoln. That was tears of joy. But that was in 92. Wow. I have a new mission. I want you guys to cry, like, of happiness. That would be great. Oh. I have a new mission. I want you guys to cry like of happiness. That would be great.

Oh my goodness. If y'all could see everybody in the studio right now, they're looking at me crazy. I just don't think that's crazy. But damn. Yeah, that's crazy. Like she basically say, cry for no reason. Like no, not for no reason.

Cause it's like, wow, like that meant a lot to me. Thank you. That's real therapy. You tear drop a little to me. Thank you. That's real therapy. You'll teardrop a little bit, and you keep pushing. No, I'm not saying sobbing. Y'all crying isn't corny. Damn, it's like a pin drop.

OK, well, I'm going to figure something out. Because you're just like a random cry. Like, you know. Yeah, you trying to coach her. I'm not even a random cryer. No, I cry when I'm really appreciative of something. Go ahead, cry right now. I can't.

Did you cry when we gave you that money? Nah. That's different. Tears of joy. That's different. No, but like- That should have been tears of joy. No, but that's different.

Money can't make me cry. It's just like, wow, that person really cares. That's the first thing that should make me cry. It's just like, wow, like that person really cares. That's the first thing that should make me cry. I see now. I think I cried. Maybe I cried after that when I see her first million dollar check, like 97, 98 or something. Wow. But it wasn't even crying.

It was more like, I want to cry, but I can't. This doesn't work. Wow. Please, in the comments down below, let us know the last time you all cried, because that's a very interesting question to me. Okay, so did you answer Kat? 36.5 points, rebounds and assists, higher or lower? Oh yeah, I'm going pause, lower.

I think the Knicks just are not in championship shape, you know? Pause, just thinking about it from a title town perspective, there's a certain way players look, pause pause when they're about to win a championship. They just don't give that. OK, and Halliburton 34 and a half points, rebounds and assists higher or lower. Mace. Hmm, that's a good one. I'm going to go higher.

Points, rebounds and assists, I'm going to go lower. I think that in the end, I'm about team by committee a win. OK, make sure you download the Underdog app, and you can make your picks too before we move on to the next topic. Just real quick, Mace, what are you expecting for game two? When it comes to games two, I expect the Knicks to jump out like they did this time. That's why it's kind of really, really interesting to see what they'll do in game two, because if you think about it, they started out to supernatural energy. I mean, everybody was there.

It was it was definitely the game to win. They did everything they could to win the game and it just unraveled at the very end. And this is what they've been doing to other teams. So it's it's real interesting when they get a taste pause of their own medicine I think this second game it ends up it's gonna be a blowout pause I don't know who's gonna win it but I know it's definitely gonna be a blowout because somebody is coming to make a point I think New York is coming to make a point but Indiana is just like if we we got one, let's get two.

Let's get two, let's see what happens. And I think if they come in with that mindset, they might just get two. Larry, who the favorite? The Pacers were the, I mean, the Knicks were the favorite before the Havs. I'm asking you to check now, who's the favorite? But yeah, but I'll give the answer while he's looking to see who were the favorite before the... I'm asking you to check now, who's the favorite? But yeah, but I'll give the answer

while he's looking to see who's the favorite. I'm gonna answer, I don't know to be honest with you, because what happened is y'all niggas let the paces, talking about y'all when I say the Knicks, as an organization, not as a city for niggas to be like, you know, whatever. You let them find a mojo, and now they feeling theyself. You know what I'm saying?

Pause, like it's one of them situations where, it's one of them situations where you be like, I got this, now I know what to do with this niggas. Pause, I know exactly what to do. So the niggas came out, they look really good, shit fell apart with two minutes left, and we gotta think about this. I'm not gonna sit here and act like I know a lot

about Neesmith and his history and so on and so forth, but I don't know if he could do that every game. That was a miracle. What we watched last night was a miracle. It was a miracle, bro. So the Knicks got that on they side, saying that ain't gonna happen every game, but then the Pacers got that. We seen y'all niggas crying, nigga.

We broke y'all niggas emotionally there, and we know what to do with y'all niggas for us. So it's a toss-up. You said? Friday. Friday. Okay, so basically, after this, you know, my gambling expert, my nigga, Larry,

basically what he said is that the Knicks are sixth-prey favorite to win the whole, pardon me, to win that game too, but now the Pacers are favorite to win the series, which they weren't favorites to win the series before last night's game, minus 170. Thank you, Larry. Yeah, when you look at this Knicks team, like, one thing when you look back at a game,

it's not much that they would have done differently. You would still want that 40 points from Brunson. It's not like they lost with everybody playing bad. And that's one of the hard things to correct correct because you can't say we had an off night. No, you were balling. Cat was balling. You know, OG was balling.

Everybody was balling and they beat you while you were at your pretty much best. And I saw Shaq say something about how do you let a man get five threes? Him and Draymond was going back and forth about it. But when I really thought about it, that's exactly right. If somebody hit one three, two threes, they don't get another one. They let them get three and then let them get four then fall on a fifth one.

That's just careless basketball. So all of this talent, they're gonna need discipline, and that's something Timberdough gotta help them with. Yeah, Murdo, you made a great point just now, because if you got 43 from Jalen Brunson and 35 from Carl Anthony Towns, 16 from, for McAlbrige's NOG, and you lose.

Yeah, it's not like you can say you had an off night. Yeah, not even that. And not only that, they shot great from the field. Jalen Brunson, 15 for 25 from the field. Carl Anthony Towns, 11 for 17. They both shooting over 50% from the field. What do you do? Yeah. What do you do?

What I saw in that game was that they don't lack talent, they lack discipline. And that's what separate the great teams from the good teams. Like when it comes down to stretch, like the ability to just stick with what you're supposed to do. Talent is one thing, but the discipline to just keep your hand up instead of swiping your hand down.

Because one time when Toppin got that dunk, that was an and one. And then the backdoor play pause, when Namhar got the layup, those were both discipline plays that, and that's what they lost off. They lost off lack of discipline. Yeah. Well, we will be staying tuned for game two. Moving along the league,

finally announced MVP and SGA won the award. He is the seventh straight MVP winner to be born outside of the U.S. joining Jokic, Embiid, and Iannis. Obviously a huge congratulations to SGA. But after hearing that, Stapp, Mace, what are your thoughts? I think SGA will win both MVPs. I think he's going to win the MVP. And I think OKC could potentially win it and he get the MVP as well

I think this is just as year they're balling and um I think the only team that'll be able to beat them is that Indiana team? I don't think any other team will beat them. So that's what I think about SGA Congratulations on a phenomenal season, but the work is not finished. You got to win at least what, where they got, um, seven more games to go. You got to win seven more games to make this the season that is supposed to be. You deserve to win seven more games and then be the league MVP and the finals MVP, and that will be something that'll put you in a very extraordinary class with the rest of the greats.

Yeah, real quick shout out to SGA. Congratulations on winning MVP. He bought the whole team Rolexes after he won MVP. No shit like I do, you know what I mean, for the team and all that shit. So I like the way, yeah, not just you, Steph. That's what I do when I fuck with niggas. I'm just saying in general, that was really dope

and we all kinda knew that, but it's an interesting stat that Stat just brought up. The seventh straight MVP of the league not from America. And then we're sitting here always contemplating and talking about who's the face of the league, who would be the face of the league about who's the face of the league, who would be the face of the league, who's the face of the league. This is an outright show

that they don't want a foreigner being the face of the league. If the last seven MVPs are not from America, so Joker got it three times, and then Joel Embiid, I believe, and then SGA and who else? Yannis. Yannis.

There's plenty of people who could have been the face of the league for the last seven years, but y'all refuse to keep trying to look for the face of the league because y'all don't want it to be a non-American, because that means we lost the grip on the game of basketball. Pause. That's what it means.

What do you think of it? You know what I'm saying, Murda? And in two more years, it'll be Wimby. Exactly. So why are we constantly, we, you know, as a country, or people who watch basketball, or analysts, or TV sports shows, or whatever,

consistently say, who is going to be the face of the league? Will Anthony Edwards be the face of the league? Will Anthony Edwards be the face of the league? Will this person be the face of the league? It's several options, they just not American, and niggas don't want the joker to be the face of the league because he going back to Serbia, pardon me if you're not from Serbia, or Greek Freak, because Greek Freak

could have definitely been the face of the league three, four, five years ago, because he's from Greece, or Africa originally. SGA, why are we not even talking about SGA? First team All-American, pardon me, first team All-MBA, two years in a row, probably gonna be third year this year. Why are we not even making, having a conversation about SGA

and we're sitting here talking about niggas who's not even the league MVP, MVP of the league yet, which is this is his first one, don't get it fucked up, but he's two time first team all NBA, and we don't even discuss him in being the face of league. You know, it might be Anthony Edwards, or it might be another American, or when Cooper Flagg comes in,

he could be, why are we just skipping up? Because we lost control, y'all. We lost control, it's just that simple. As far as having the best players in the world, we don't have the best players in the world. We have great players, but as far as having the best players in the world, we don't have them. Do we have the best players in one country?

Yeah, we just won the Olympics, we proved that. But if you put a little bit of Canada with a little bit of Serbia, with a little bit of Greece, pause, and you put all that together, then they better than America. The last two finalists was foreigners as well. Yeah, absolutely, it was Greek Freak and it was... SGA.

The Joker and SGA. So the three finalists wasn't even American. What the fuck are we looking for face to the league? And I think if we're going off winning and stats and everything else, just admit it, y'all. Adam Silver and the rest of the NBA, y'all. We lost it. We lost control, y'all. We lost control, we were Olympic champions,

but outside of us having the best players in one country, the best players in the world, we don't have them no more. Now we still got Anthony Edwards, what else we got, Jason, Jaylen Burson? Jah Morant. Jah Morant, you know, we got, yeah. I'm like, very different. Yeah, it's.

Tatum. Damn. You know, we got... Yeah, but like, very different. Yeah, it's... Tate them. Damn. Oh, no, man. It's because y'all are... I'm trying to think of niggas first. Because the best niggas ain't from America no more. And this is why niggas don't want to do the all-star game America against the rest of the country, because they're going gonna get smacked.

Think about this, right? Let's just put it into perspective. Let's do the starting five off top of that. You do Joker at the center, and then you got Greek Freak at the four. You got SGA at the one. Who's the two and the three murder? Wimby.

Oh man, it's Wimby. And Luca. Oh, whoops. It's crazy. Who wants to play that? Yeah, so that's they all star team. Who we got in America starting for us? Ja, um, Ja LeBron. We still putting LeBron in here, starting at 49 years old. Shout out to my nigga LeBron. Look, thinking about the age, we still getting it, and I'm not disagreeing with you, don't make it too good, right?

But you just named, Steph, KD, and LeBron, that's like 162 years combined in ages, if you put the ages together. Of course I'm exaggerating, but it's close to 120. Definitely over 100 though. Yeah. Wow. And then Ja.

Ja, all right. Ja, Ja. I'm thinking of the star, bro. So you got- No, you got Steph, LeBron, KatieD, Jot, and um. Who's your center? You're gonna, we can't claim Joe LMB, they bought him for the Olympics.

So who's your center? Eric Mobley? Like a Maxon? I'm putting, I'm putting, I'm putting KD at the center. And LeBron at the ball. We playin' small ball. Ball. Y'all got some suggestions? Ben Carroll.

You can't put BAMP like Cardinal Novy Center. That's what I said. You can't. You still got, you still got, Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. And the Greek free!

Anthony Davis. Yeah. There you go, Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. If you want. That would be the answer. I feel like, yeah. You see what y'all did for Anthony Davis?

Huh? I said, you see how y'all responded to Anthony Davis? You responded like that to everybody, because the odds is like, damn. Yeah, I'm inviting anybody to chime in for a America of y'all. Because it's like there's crickets. Yeah, it's rough, man. It's rough.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it's a hard crowd, man. Wow. What about Townes? Yeah, Townes. Yeah, Townes. Townes, Kat. No Kat in there. Yeah, so you got Kat. You got Townes? Yeah, Townes. Townes, Cat.

No Cat in there. Yeah, so you got Cat, you got LeBron, you got Katie, you got Steph and Ja. If you want. We'll get back to, that's a good question. Yeah, if that's who you wanna die with. Yeah. You too, you American.

Don't throw Edmond in there? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Ant-Man. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, 100%. Ant-Man over Jada. Who's your point guard, Steph Curry? Steph, I got Steph at the one, I'm putting Ant-Man at the two. Then you got- KD at the three. KD, you got LeBron, and Kat.

Kat over AD? Yeah, I'm going with Kat over AD. Jama ran off the bench. Yeah, Jama. You ain't starting Jama? I would start Jama, but they saying Ant-Man, so. So Steph Curry definitely gotta start, he not gonna. Steph, Steph is right behind Jordan. Okay.

See, this is crazy, because y'all didn't even name a bench for the international players. Like that's already the problem. Like exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they got poor Zingers. They got poor Zingers coming off the bench.

Right. They got real problems coming off the bench. What's somebody named from Arm Houston that just went crazy? I'm freaking, I know exactly. Oh, Segund. Segund. Segund, yeah. Sabonis. Yeah, Sabonis, yeah.

Oh, Chet American. Yeah, Chet, yeah, Chet American. You might have got to Chet American. Chet can't start though. Wow. You can't bring Katie or LeBron off the bench. You just can't for just... TheyBron off the bench. You just can't for just... They brought him off the bench in the Olympics.

Yeah. So... KD. That nigga's gotta chill out, man. Nigga's gotta chill, bro. You can't bring Katie off the bench, man. So, from this conversation alone, it's looking like, and we've seen it,

there's an international player takeover. So with that being said, do you see that changing anytime soon? No, cause I think just like Killa said, overseas, like Cam said it, man, the overseas are practicing more than the states right now. They got basketball schools. We only got a few schools

that are probably like basketball schools. We only got a few schools that are probably like basketball schools on Mount Mount Verde, um, I am G um, there's one out here and, and, um, and Vegas, but for the most part, a lot of this schools are basketball schools. So even in a, in a WNBA, there was a young lady that was like six eight Cambridge. She would take years off, come back, and still be an All-Star, because that's how advanced the European basketball system is over America.

So you're saying the rest of them is Uncle Willie and them watching it, and they just want to hear stuff like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a basketball school.

And I agree with Mase to a certain extent because it's like, what's going on is this. And we, and more power to that younger athletes. They're figuring out how to get millions before they go pro. The pros, the people overseas, there's a couple things. We think about Luka Donis. Luka, he been a pro since he was 15. And niggas is playing they ass off to get over here. The niggas who like that over here,

or think they like that over here, already over here. They're not fighting to go play in China. They're not fighting to go play in Australia. They're not fighting to go play in China. They're not fighting to go play in Australia. They're not fighting to go play in Africa. Niggas is fighting and playing their ass off to get over here to play. So their determination is harder to play over here to where sometimes, I grab two million, I'm like that.

I'm gonna get drafted, X, Y, Z, yada, yada, yada, yada. So I think the determination is different to get to the NBA for overseas players Than American players not saying that they don't they don't want to get here I'm get to the NBA, but they figured out how to make no millions. I don't know. What's the NIL overseas? Yeah, it's not in the aisle overseas And the players in America, they're too focused on their hair and all of that. You know, they're too busy trying to grow their hair. You ever see Joker playing Serbia?

Like when he's out there, it's fire. Deadass, like it's some shit where fire goes on. Yeah, you know, like it's fucking a fire going on while the game is playing. Like, this shit's sweet over here, my nigga. The nigga's like, yo, man, this shit is, let me get over there, y' This shit's like, yo, man, this shit is... Let me get over there. Y'all gonna give me 300 million too?

Yeah, niggas is gonna work their way to get over here, man. So, I don't see it getting better. I'm not saying that we're not gonna produce more superstars as Americans, but I think it's more superstars that's gonna come from overseas, and not just overseas, because Canada isn't overseas. Canada is right up the road.

But I would love, really love to see, not just overseas, the Canadian format of basketball because it's a lot of basketball players that's good from Canada. And I'm like, what's the AAU system? Where do they play at? Where they go? We can fucking drive to that shit.

That shit is the border right up the side. How does it work? I don't know. It's something I gotta do my due diligence on. What's the system? Cause you gotta think about this SGA, he went to Kentucky. Who the fuck is going up there to scout them?

Who's scouting Wiggins? Wiggins is a former number one overall pick. Shay Gilder's cousin, Alexander Walker, is in the... And Murray, right? Yeah, Murray as well in the conference finals. Not Murray in the conference finals, but Shay's cousin is in the conference finals. What the y'all got going on in Canada?

Like, send us the link, Paul, so we can see what the fuck, how this shit is working up there. Because they're producing superstars as well. But I will say, and I love being an American, would not change that for the world, but like, yeah, I want to make that very clear. But it is very different just even in different countries because even down to like the way they're playing,

like the food that they eat, because they say that our food is like super seasoned. And then like even down to their education system, they learn things that we would probably never even learn. Like maybe all of that adds to it. I don't really know what it is. I like Canada. When I'm going to tour Canada, they show me love.

Vancouver is one of my favorite cities. Like it's landscape-wise, it's a very pretty city. And then Toronto is almost like New York. That shit is super duper city in Toronto. Winnipeg, shout out to Winnipeg too. I'm shouting out all the cities there. I toured a lot in Canada, they show me a lot of love when I go on tour in Canada.

Yeah, but we're definitely, we're gonna have to figure it out, because I don't know what it is, but they're like way ahead in a lot of different categories. So we'll see what happens. Well, McDonald's is delicious up there, it's gourmet. You have this shit called poutine or some shit up there. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? You got McDonald's and fuck it.

You got McDonald's, we don't know what poutine is. They help with their health system. That's what, yeah. Their health system is free. You know what I'm saying? Let an ambulance pick you up tomorrow. Get a bill for $2,000 tomorrow after the ambulance pick you up. They have a free for $2,000 tomorrow. I'll have to ambulance pick you up.

Air-free health system. That's a good point. They're McDonald's. Even like KFC in Jamaica's good. Like different places got different things going. You ain't KFC in Jamaica. That's the truth. You have not had the real KFC till you had KFC in Jamaica.

Bro, I'm telling you, you're gonna try it. Dubai got the best McDonald's though. The best McDonald's? Dubai, yeah. Debatable. I wonder what the comments think. But that sounds good. I have to try it. Okay, we are gonna go to break. When we return, we will discuss NBA champs in recent years.

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Welcome back. So for the first time in NBA history, and I know there's always a new stat, there will be seven different champions in seven seasons. Mase, do you see this as a good thing or a bad thing? I see this as a good thing to have seven different champions in seven different years, because it just lets you know that nobody has a hold on the NBA.

And in the last couple of years, nobody's effectively put together a super team. So that's another thing while you're watching different teams win because the conglomerate hasn't been put together yet. But I think all of that changes next year. I think with these next couple of years, somebody will be fortunate enough to put together a team that could win at least two back to back. I think of this, um, even if Indiana wins, I don't see them repeating. If the Knicks were to win,

they could probably repeat if they were to win. And, um, who else? If okay, see where to win, I could see them winning back to back. Did that team look really, really sound? I like all of the guards that they got on that team. They look like they have the type of nucleus that could win it back to back. And they're young enough to win it back to back. So that's what I think.

Yeah, I agree. I think this is great. I think parity is great for the NBA because there's no foregone conclusion. You know what I'm saying? We sit there, and that's what creates conversation, where you can have a nigga Sin City calling me, talking about, I told you so.

Or you have niggas like, rooted for Oklahoma City Thunder, when you thought they probably would never be back to this point after you lose a KD or Russell Westbrook or Paul George or whoever. Indiana Pacers, another team that has them, they probably would never be back to this point after you lose a Katie or Russell Westbrook or Paul George or whoever. Indiana Pacers, another team that hasn't been really that far, they never won a championship in franchise history even though he's in the conference finals last season.

We pretty much knew they wasn't gonna beat the Celtics. Now it's looking like they have a chance to go to the finals. So I love that it's parodied. I love that we can't predict who the champion's gonna be because you think about it as much as I loved Kevin Durant on Golden State because I love watching great basketball. And when Kevin Durant was on Golden State, you watched a basketball team that was talented

with a high IQ and you look in a great basketball. But it was also a foregone conclusion who was gonna win. Nobody's gonna beat Golden State. If he didn't get hurt that last year, they would have won again. But I do like not knowing. It's like the game last night. You think the Knicks got this shit wrapped up

and they don't. That's what makes it great. So I do like that it's poverty and it's not just super teams winning. As far as what Mase said, as far as repeating, our only person, only team that I would guarantee, not guarantee, guess, will repeat is OKC,

because they're young enough to do it. They're the second or youngest team, and even the youngest team on the second youngest team in the NBA right now. So imagine their confidence coming back in to next year, if they won. That would be the one team that I would say could repeat out of the four teams that's left.

Okay, and then last thing before we wrap. So, Larsa Pippen, she recalls her relationship with NBA player Malik Beasley. And for those who are watching, we had a real throwback episode where we talked about this when it initially started. He played on the same team as her son, Scottie Pippen Jr. She admitted her relationship with Malik was a mistake and blames it on COVID brain.

She said, that was a mistake, but I had COVID, I had COVID brain, I was stuck in my house, I hadn't gone anywhere, he was there and he was on me, like, let me come see you, and I thought, okay, come see me. So, Mace, have you ever had COVID brain and then what did you think of her thought process? Pause on the COVID brain. That sounds crazy.

I don't know. What is COVID brain? You've been in the house too long, so you... He explains it as, you know, when you just start doing things. Kim, you answer that. She was given COVID brain. That's what she was doing.

You know what I'm talking about? That's exactly what she was doing. So why you fuck with Michael Jordan's son? Why you keep going around just scouting basketball players for years, man? You know, Scottie Pippen's your baby father. You know, to me, it's more embarrassing as a mother. Your son is in the NBA, and you was actually on the team.

He was on the team with a player that you was fucking. It's embarrassing, you know, as a mother. And then these comments just close the show. You're not that bright. You know, even if you do, even if, you know... You know... To say you do even if you know To say look Embarrassing I'll go with that statement

I know you can't agree with all the shit publicly I do murder To be that bright to say that I'm not talking about a nigga mother. I'm talking about somebody who says this. No, but it is embarrassing if it is like, it's like coming to your job and having sex with niggas at your job. Exactly, exactly, and it's your mother, it's your mother. It's like this, like B, oh, you know. Niggas listening to Sukiyana and all them

and thinking it's all good to be living this lifestyle. Sometimes you a little too old for that. I think the music plays a part in it too. I think so too. Cause these bitches be, you know what it is? I got bitches, I don't got bitches no more like that. I'm talking about I had bitches. Bitch got to be 62 right now.

Gotta be at least 62, 63. Because I was born and all when I was 20 and she was 37. I'm 49 now so I'm sitting there thinking about the age and it's like she be sending me these truck videos and shit and I be like, yo, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like, I'm 49 now, so I'm sitting there thinking about the age and it's like, she be sending me these truck videos and shit and I be like, yo. I think I like-

I'm working at 62. I got a video, you know I keep the fast nigga. And it be like, yo, you know when you was younger in the 90s, it's all internet, it's like, it was frowned upon to be a ho. Yeah. And they was secret hoes, they couldn't be the hoes that they wanted,

and now it's not cool to, you know, I'm using the word ho, but that's not what they would use. Influencer. That's different, but I see where you're going. Each worker. You know. This is the words they use nowadays. I.G. model.

I.G. model. These are the new words. Pardon me if I'm still using the 90s old words. Y'all are influencers now. And everything else y'all doing. And Instagram models. And Instagram models. And Instagram models. So they see in this and they like, yo, man,

we and my girls could have turned up like this in 92. And now they feel like they miss out on it. So to be totally honest with you, older women are looking better than they look when they... So let's say, for instance, a 45-year-old woman today looks better than a 45-year-old woman in 94 because of nutrition. We're learning how to take care of bodies.

We're learning how to get better sleep. And the doctors. You got to get the doctors in there. Let's not forget about the doctor in Miami, cutting your rib, taking your yanker rib out, getting the hair removed from your lips and all type of shit. You're looking better, you know what I'm saying?

So, so now, they like, yo, I could twerk 62, you know what I... You know what I mean? So, I think a lot of females, Larissa Pimpin and them, don't even. You always say Larissa, but it's okay. It's Lara. Larsa. I don't really care, that's fine.

I've been mad when I mispronounced Mike Tomlin or something. That's fine. Scottie Pimpin, baby mother. You know what I'm saying? People like that don't even realize they doing anything wrong dating your son's teammate or dating Michael Jordan's son, your baby father's teammate's son that you watch grow up.

And now you blaming on COVID brain. What I will do is this, I'll give her this, I'll give her this. COVID was rough, man. You had to pick somebody and stay with them. I had two during COVID. And I'll give you COVID brain. I won't force, I won't say that's what I had, but I was like, damn,

I'm stuck with this after about three weeks. Cause you can't risk it. People are dying. People's dying. Can't just be sleeping with everybody during the COVID, man. So if you chose him during the COVID, that was your choice. I get it, but that was your choice.

We all had choices to make. Yeah, just think about it if it was the other way around, right? Let's say it was a ladies basketball team and a dad came in there and he was smashing his daughter's friend on the team. How would the ladies look at that stuff? 100% correct, I like that.

It's crazy all the way around. No, but it would be crazier. I can't even like. It would be crazier if you had a younger daughter, she's on the team, but then a friend like you, she thinks you're good to go. Yeah, you would be all type of suckers. Yeah.

Of course, you heard her. Pedophiles, all that. Yeah, yeah, 100% correct. How old is she? You know what I'm saying? She's crazy, man. It is crazy, and that is that, I don't know. That was her reasoning, COVID brain, that's that.

You know what? COVID brain is just AKA, I still got it. Yeah, and the whole thing is, it's like, it's like, you know why it's the lack of awareness, to say you lost your whore-ism, like Dre, like yo. Yeah. Nah, I think the wholeness wears off after like seven years, so I'm not a whore anymore. And you might not be a whore no more,

and I'm not talking about Dre specifically, but to make the comment, it's like, it isn't the chicken pie, it isn't like you go take a pill and you get rid of the whore-ism. When you say the comment, sometimes it's be like, yo, this is what we gotta look forward to. Next generation, man, or society or whatever. It's bad.

Last thing before we leave. What's that, why didn't you jump in for her? You normally protect the women. Yeah. What am I protecting? What am I? I'm not a stan for that. That's your thing, I said you were a hoger. You been to a hoger. I'm literally not a stan for that. That's Shafi'i, I said you were a hoger.

I'm literally not a stan for that. That's her. Let me ask you one thing off the topic real quick. Of course, I know we got a rap. I was watching the P. Diddy trials. A nigga named The Punisher came in here yesterday. Was he running around bad boy back in the day's murder? A nigga named The Punisher?

Who was The Punisher? Was he security inside back in the day? Who was The Punisher? The male prostitute? Yeah, I never met him. I didn't know if that was somebody chasing their identity up. Nigga Bentley, one of them niggas said,

you ain't Mr. Bentley no more. You the punisher. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. I didn't mean to be a bum. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, yeah. That was super wild.

Yeah. I guess this is what V said, you don't really know niggas. Yeah, you don't know niggas. You never really know niggas. Woo, child. Well, y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. More than you know.

No, literally, perfect segue. Thank y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. The more you know. No, literally. Perfect segue. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!