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your hosts mace and cam and we are joined with our analyst maurice clarex yo killer what's up
what's good bro how you chilling man you could Nah, I can't laugh, man. Probably next week.
Laughing and coughing is all.
What?
How you? You all right?
I'm doing good, man. I'm doing better than I look, you know?
They say you look good, you feel good. Pause.
But I'm doing better than I look.
How you doing, Mo?
Championship week, baby.
Come on.
Oh, you over there playing.
You over there in that Yukon Husky blue, huh?
Yeah.
Well, I ain't a Husky blue.
Let me see your shirt.
This is the second key cheat.
You see the gang.
I got to get.
I got us all in there. all in there I got a respectable picture
I got you right there Cam
get the yayo
we know you can't laugh with us
get the yayo
I was saying
did you know what he was talking about when he said that the other day
no she didn't
of course she didn't
that's the classic she only knows when he said that the other day? No, she didn't. Of course she didn't.
That's the classic line from a kid.
She only knows SpongeBob.
She only knows SpongeBob.
Why you answer anything outside
of Johnny Bravo?
She will never know where Chi-Chi gets
the yayo at.
You know what the A-team is?
I didn't even want to
question
Steph
I don't have time to answer that right now
This is always the way out
This is championship week baby
How you feeling about your team, Maurice?
I'm feeling great.
I'll tell you like this.
I don't think I've ever been this excited for a sporting event in a very long time, man.
These dudes have a chance to go win back-to-back.
They got to go through Alabama first.
And I've literally been excited all
weekend. I'll be at the games.
I'll be out there all weekend.
The girls got to handle their business. They got to go
ahead and knock off Kaitlyn Clark
and then whoever wins out of the other teams,
they'll do it. I don't know. I'm excited.
I'm excited for the festivities.
I appreciate the whole staff
who actually called me and said,
we want you down here. So shout out to them.
I knew you was getting paid to go out there.
You sound too excited, Mo.
No, like this.
Well, one day I'm paying me to go out there.
Yeah.
I tell you like this.
No, I'm going to tell you what really went through my mind.
I said, dog, I said, and I said, it's kind of last week, but you know,
you just know when you you've done enough stuff in your life, you came,
I'm pretty sure stat Nick, whoever, or you doing something special. Right.
And it's not many moments that you have, like, you know, once you,
once you get money and once you start to buy stuff,
you really start to chase experiences or other stuff has value.
And to see these dudes go through all this and to be, you know,
after the game I'm texting these players and they responded and, you know,
you talking to the coaching staff and they see all of our comments and all
of our stuff, like Danny Hurley likes our comments and likes our posts and
stuff that we post. So like they're in tune.
Timani Lung, Luke Murray, y'all don't know,
but this is the coaching staff and guys who pay attention to our stuff.
And to know that you are connected to a thing that's special,
like that's special to me. Right.
And it's the same thing. Like, even when I get on the show every week,
I know that this is special.
And when your life like in this special moment, like you get excited and you
like, man, this is just like some special shit.
I'm pretty sure y'all had those moments to be like, damn,
is this really my life or life feel cool? And this ain't nothing you can buy.
So to have the head booster, like, yo,
we need you out here with the team. And then these dudes hit me up.
It was like, yo, we need you to stay at the hotel.
We need you to be able to watch around. To me, that feels special.
So for that to happen, like you get excited, you get pumped up,
you're like, man, let's go.
And so I'm going to go out there and enjoy all the festivities in Phoenix
and, you know, I'm enjoying it.
So you got flewed out.
I'm going to get pumped up and excited.
That was crazy, Maurice.
So the booster flew you out.
So the booster flew you out.
That's basically what a lot of other words like Cam said,
what Maurice just said is the booster flew him out.
You can pause all that.
He's pumped up and he's excited
and
money can't buy
this.
Well, y'all know what I'm talking about.
That was great.
I zoned out for a second.
Yeah, he went Limp Bizkit for a moment.
I'm excited.
I mean, listen to me.
I'm going to see my squad.
I'm excited about it.
And I'm just – I thought you were to me. I'm going to see my squad. I'm excited about it. And I'm just –
Yo, Mo, I thought you were going to see the girls' games.
Now I'm going to fly you out.
Are you missing the girls' games?
No.
If we really want to be honest, I was on the phone with Mason,
and I was like, I didn't know what you was doing.
You was on injury reserve.
So I said, like, yo, I don't really know how, like,
logistically, like, yo, I don't really know how, like, logistically,
like, how I should move.
Nigga, yo, Moe.
Yo, Moe, when I say it's going to rain, get an umbrella, nigga.
You mean rain now, legit it was, nigga.
What you mean?
When I say it, I say it, nigga.
It's done, nigga.
I don't just say it to say it, nigga.
That's what you mean.
I mean, how legit it was.
Don't worry where I'm at. I could be on Mars. I could be on Mars, nigga, if I say it. Just say it, nigga. I mean, how legit it was. Don't worry about me.
I could be on Mars.
I could be on Mars, nigga.
If I say it's going to happen, it's going to happen, man.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I had to call you every day to make sure.
Yo, you know, next Friday, I'll call you every day.
If I tell you two weeks ahead of time, it's going to happen, nigga.
It's going to happen.
Yeah.
Yo, murder nigga
flew a nigga out, now he gonna blame me.
Nigga flew it out.
Nigga flew it out.
Now he wanna hit a nigga.
That's crazy.
What's the next topic, Seth?
I'll see you in Arizona, Maurice. It's okay.
So, yo,
hold on, Mo.
Hold on.
So you're not going to support the women.
You're just going to fuck with the niggas.
Yeah.
I'm so... Later today...
He might be in Arizona with a bunch of niggas.
He don't want to...
Look, I want to hear the schedule for real
because I gave up floor seats for you
nigga
I want to hear the schedule this week
what's your schedule yo
so
it's a flight I'm flying out there
so I assume I'm going to be with
the team during the shoot around
when are you flying out there
right after the show
tonight around the world. When are you flying out there, Mo? Right after the show.
Tonight?
Yeah, he flew out.
I think you flew a nigga out early.
He amped up. They locked the champ up. Say no more.
Fuck the woman.
Yeah, he was.
That's crazy.
Look, I logistically went through this.
I checked every flight out of Cleveland.
They play 930 at night.
I checked every flight out of Cleveland to get out to Arizona.
So, I hate doing connected flights.
I only do direct flights.
So, I'm like, man, only direct flight that they have was out of Columbus.
So, you know, you're going to make me Southwest. I'm kind of being flewed out you know, I don't know.
Y'all going to make me Southwest.
Get a lot of being
flewed out,
paused and chewed up.
Flewed out.
What time is the game
on Saturday?
Nine.
So it says nine.
I think it might be
six o'clock out on
the West Coast.
I'm assuming.
Is that right, Steph?
Yeah, I'm almost positive.
It's around six.
Yeah.
But yeah, sorry, Maurice.
You got a little picked on, but I was getting picked on all.
So it's your turn.
Okay.
But Seth, we can reframe it.
Why are we picking on people because we're repeating what they say?
I don't know.
It's just.
So, Seth, we got to remix it and say, hey, man,
we just want the brand in more places.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
I agree with that, but I think that this brand supports women a lot.
Yeah.
That's why we made a conscious decision to go to the women's before the men's.
But, you know, to each his own.
Would you like to start the next topic?
No commercial breaks?
No commercial breaks?
Okay.
So let's get into it so lavar ball said he has no regrets as lamello and lonzo deal with
injuries but he blames their injury problems on their raggedy shoes from uma he said because you
condition your body from jumping you've got to condition your legs so that's why i always have
my boys in them hills and running hard in them hills. That will make you run like a deer when you get on that court so you won't be getting hurt.
A lot of things have to do with them raggedy shoes that Mel will be wearing.
Them shoes are not made the right way for him.
That's why he keeps tweaking his angle every single time.
So that's on him blaming the shoes and his comments as a whole.
Yeah, everybody knows I'm a lavar ball fan and uh i do like as much as he jokes i do
believe that there's uh some truth to what he's talking about right and i just think that from him
training those guys as kids you know they grow on me now and him having the an understanding of you
know all of the nuances of performance all of the nuances of performance,
all of the nuances of what pushes the kid and takes the kid to the next level.
I personally believe that LeVar Ball is right in regards to the training.
I think the shot at the shoes has more to do with him wanting the kids
to be in the big baller brand and then they end up switching to Nike,
I think the other kid was in, and then I think LaMelo switched to Puma.
So I think that has like loaded shots in it.
I don't know nothing about technology with shoes and all this other stuff,
but I do believe him.
And I'm really mad that the wave that LeVar Ball started got stopped.
I'm really mad at that.
I wish that LeVar Ball could have took like what he was doing with trying to
have his own brand and have his own shoe on however far he took it. I wish it wouldn't have got demolished because I wish it would have gave
somebody else an opportunity to say hey LeVar Ball took the brand with his shoes this far or
the brand with their clothing this far you know these are some things that we learned from him but
like it's almost like uh like an afterthought they don't even talk about him but he was kind of like
on that uh the big three wave and the wave of uh taking these kids a year after high school and playing them and all that other stuff so that's my take i think
it's some truth to it so let me ask you mo you think both of them is true that the shoes that
he's taking a shot at the shoes and and um i'm not i'm kind of lost uh both of them the training
yes so he so when he when he said, he said that his kids are getting hurt.
So it's two things.
He said the kids are getting hurt because they're not training
with him anymore, right?
And so he raised them, trained them, weightlifting, all that stuff.
And what he's kind of saying is, like, you know,
once they got off on their own and they got the Puma deal and the Nike deal
and people were, like, I think, like, just politically severed a tie between him and them.
That's when they start getting hurt.
And I think like those are a set of comments.
And I think it's another set of comments of saying like that.
Do you think those comments are true though?
100%.
100%.
I just think like, yeah,
I just think like it goes back to when we were talking about Derrick James and Earl Spence, like a person who raises you, they're just going to know you in a different way.
And LeVar Ball, even though he didn't have like the commercial success that other people had, he still got to the NBA. He still put him in a position to be number one draft pick, right?
position to be number one draft picks, right?
So there's things that you know that got them there.
And so when you get passed off to somebody else,
somebody else may have a routine that works for somebody else.
But the nuances of knowing your kids and how to push them and what they need,
like I'm 1,000% about the heels too.
There's so much mobility work, hip work,
and posterior chain work that you get and drive that you get when you talk about running like a deer, you get that from running hills.
So I do agree with him in that regard.
And if you don't put the – like, Paul, if you don't put the pressure on your body
and the pressure on your joints, you're susceptible to injury.
He's saying that.
That's what he's saying.
Yeah, and I 100% agree with him.
I don't think anything he said was wrong.
Like, even when he took a shot at the shoes, I don't even think that was wrong.
Because if you think about it, ever since LaMelo Ball, and I'm a big LaMelo Ball fan,
ever since he started wearing those shoes, he started having those ankle injuries.
Like, so his first one time, he was out look look like half of the season and now for
him to get hurt again in the same type of shoe he wasn't getting hurt in the in the threes whatever
they were called the big threes or whatever they would call that laval and he was balling. I mean, one thing you can't negate is the results.
So if I wear Chico DuBard sneakers and I start scoring 80 points
and then I switch to air whatever and I start getting hurt
or tweaking my ankle and my Achilles and then my knee,
it got to be some truth to that because even the same thing happened with Alonzo.
When he switched those sneakers, he got hurt two times in the same thing.
So as crazy as it sounds, I don't know about Nike,
but I definitely know them.
I'm not sure of Puma.
I don't have no history with Pumas playing basketball.
Not me. And I know Killer don't. I don't have no history with Pumas playing basketball. Not me.
And I know Killer don't.
I don't ever remember Killer playing ball in Pumas.
I'm not going to start the game.
They can't give me free Pumas.
I won't win.
I don't care who wins.
I'm not winning.
I feel like I'm flittling myself if I win. My game ain't going who's them. I'm not wearing them. I feel like I'm a little in myself if I wear them.
My game ain't going to be this.
And no shot at Puma.
I'm just not a Puma kid.
You know what I'm saying?
I grew up on Nikes.
As far as I'm going, I'm a Peter.
Well, listen, man.
I wear a pair of Pumas.
My man Sham guard.
I got to support home team, so I definitely wear Sham guard.
I wear Sham guard Pumas.
Outside of that.
I wear Sham Pumas.
Sham the only thing you can get me to wear Pumas.
Other than that, I ain't wearing no Pumas.
Nah.
Yeah, Puma, I got to wear my sham guards man um before i get into the actual topic
yo mo it's a flight saturday morning at 7 40 a.m they get you in the phoenix at 9 03 a.m before
anything even start the landline or or anything. Right here on Priceline, American Airlines.
American Airlines?
Would you like to go?
Yeah, would you want to go at 7.40
a.m.
Saturday morning?
Lab line don't start until about 5,
so you don't got to talk about they flew me in
for the extracurricular.
They got me there early so I can talk
to the team for motivation.
If there's a flight that'll get you there at this time, I will book it.
Just let me know.
Go ahead.
Look.
I'm going to call and cancel my ticket.
Look.
All right.
We'll get off of here.
I'm going to book this flight.
I'm going to get you.
Yeah, I'm going to get all the information. Everything is on Wikipedia anyway. I'm going to get this flight. I'm going to get all the information.
Everything is on Wikipedia anyway.
I'm going to get your full name and birthday.
And I'm going to book this flight, man.
You want to just describe it.
Show them what the next topic's at.
Yeah.
Now you know what happened?
Go up there in Connecticut and the men don't win and the women do
and you try to go say what's up.
Nah, I'm good.
I'm good on you, man.
I'm cool.
Yo, but that's serious.
But back to the topic.
Look, man, this is a great – you know what it is, man?
A lot of times fathers are – you know, I didn't really grow up with a father.
A lot of friends of mine didn't grow up with actual fathers.
So a lot of times when you see these fathers, you know,
now we're all good fathers because we didn't have fathers.
But, you know, 70s, 80s, maybe even 90s, early 2000s, whatever.
You got a father that knows what it takes
because he probably didn't have a father.
And so he's trying to instill you
to be the best that you could be
no matter what it is.
An attorney, a sports commentator,
a basketball player, a singer, or whoever.
And a lot of times,
and I'm not going to say a lot
because everybody don't make it,
but we see
these success stories and sometimes they don't fuck with the father after they get the most
successful that the father made them be.
Because they hold, oh, he was rough on me or he was acting crazy with me, talking to
me crazy.
But nigga, you Michael Jackson, nigga, what the fuck is you talking about?
Yeah, that's how you got this spin for a second.
You Michael Jackson,
nigga, you Serena Williams, nigga, how you
talking crazy, nigga? Not Serena
because she still fucks with her father.
Even though they cool now,
you still watching, nigga. Yo,
Floyd Mayweather talk crazy to Floyd Mayweather
singer. Yo, you are the
best in the world, nigga.
And whatever you're doing, and your father had a lot to do with that,
whether the relationship is there or not there.
So when it comes to, like, LeVar Ball and his sons, you know,
I remember when Lonzo got to the – when Lonzo was on the Lakers
and LeBron was on the Lakers.
And I guess LeVar – no, we got to realize we when Lazo was on the Lakers and LeBron was on the Lakers, and I guess LeVar, no, we gotta
realize, we've seen the very, very
toned down LeVar Ball
over the last couple years.
You know, leading up to his kids into the NBA,
he was the ultimate
hype man, marketer,
promotion, everything.
So we was like, damn, we hear about this nigga
more than we hear about his kids.
And it got to two of his kids being top three draft picks.
One was two and one was three.
You can't beat that, bro.
Two out of three and they're top two and three.
So, yeah, he was talking shit to get y'all there.
He going to start bragging once you get there.
And I remember Alonzo being on the Lakers and him having a conversation
with LeBron James.
LeBron James put right in his
ear,
you ain't got to let your father do everything. You're your
own man now. And niggas start
listening to that.
You're a grown ass man. This is your money. This ain't
really your money. It ain't his
money. I helped you, but
you earned it. You got to start making your own deal.
And you know, I could plug you in with some niggas, but I don't know if the ball sneakers, but you earned it. You got to start making your own deal. And you know, I could plug you
in with some niggas, but I don't
know if the ball sneakers is going to kill it.
I haven't. Stephon Marbury tried to
sell his shit for $24.
I tried to sell him. Shit ain't work.
Gotta
fuck with Carol.
Word, Bron, you
right.
I never looked at it that way.
My pops don't know everything.
Yeah, LeBron.
Yeah, Bron.
Yeah.
I started listening.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
So now it's like, bro, listen.
Now what LeBron Ball is doing is falling back like,
niggas didn't want to listen to me.
I was doing too much. Yeah, niggas want to go.
I was doing too much.
Yeah, niggas want to go, Brian, Brian, Brian.
Yeah, now niggas is hurt.
Lonzo Ball was supposed to come back in the middle of the season.
I don't even know.
Last time I seen Lonzo Ball, he got the Chicago Bulls organization
fucked up right now because he's the key piece when he's healthy.
And they can't get no consistency with him there.
Rumors about Zach Levine trades,
DeMar DeRosa having good nights off and on.
You are a key piece when you're a primary point guard
on any basketball team.
And like you said, Murda LaMelo Bulls,
he's not just good, he's marketable.
I'm still mad at the day right now to this day that Golden State Warriors
did not get LaMelo Ball and pick Wiseman.
Wiseman ended up being a bust.
They traded that nigga to Detroit.
And so the one year that y'all are not good
and you get the number two pick in the draft,
y'all skip out on LaMelo
Ball, and this is what we was talking about
if Golden State gonna stay together or not,
y'all skip out on niggas' feelings.
Yo, we're working stuff for Clayton
on thing. Dre, I don't know if you're gonna fit
with them. Niggas marketable, bro.
Let everybody else figure it out.
Now, they wanna chip after that with Jordan Poole,
but you don't just miss out on LaMelo Ball,
but then at the same time, they may have been reading the injury report.
Is this nigga going to be healthy?
Is he going to be stable?
I don't know.
He may be fragile.
You know what I'm saying?
But to your point, Mace, I've never seen these injuries,
and I'm not sitting here casting any conspiracy theories
or throwing grease on the fire or anything like that. But these injuries
did not happen until they switched
to sneakers. I will
say that.
He wasn't hurt in high school when
and he wasn't
hurt when he was playing overseas
when he got them sneakers
and his dad bought him the
Ferrari or the Lamborghini.
He wasn't
hurt then and everything was going well i don't think they should have went against building their
family legacy and being able to do things that nobody else has been able to do i mean they came
the boy came out of high school selling sneakers for 500 how do do I know? Because I bought a pair. I actually bought a pair because it was LaBarre Ball
and it was LaMelo Ball.
I was watching him, you know, play since he was, like,
really short in high school.
And then he caught the growth spurt.
So they was doing too many big things.
And I believe people were like, yo, we got to break this up.
We got to break this up.
And listen, and I don't know like, yo, we got to break this up. We got to break this up. And listen,
and I don't know what you're saying,
it's like this too,
like sometimes it may seem overbearing.
I'm talking about from a kid's point on their parents
or it's too much or I'm grown now, whatever.
But if you want it that bad
and you see what it takes to get it paused,
then you're going to continue that. To this
day, I don't know if anybody
on the show today
ever seen the movie King Richard
about Serena's
parents.
Yeah, Serena's father.
Listen, man, them kids
knew what it took and they knew he had
what it took to motivate them.
Even to this day they
they fuck with him he might be aggravating rule whatever they'd be like this would it take to get
us there and that's why they had the longevity you had tennis career go away in about nine ten years
a lot of people don't realize tennis you want me in boxing where you can't tag in again
where there's no substitution where you can't just say nigga in, where there's no substitution, where you can't just say, hold up,
that is the hardest sports
because there's nobody else to lean on. You hurt your leg
in tennis, there's no substitution.
That is a
fucking hard-ass sport.
More the story is, the
lifespan of the average tennis player
may be like
9 to 12 years, and that's
when you're great.
Like they, Serena Williams played 27 years of tennis, bro,
and probably arguably the best tennis player ever.
Her sister's probably top five, Venus.
So you got to realize sometimes they're like, nah, dad be bugging,
but he know what it take for us to get here.
And that's why they had the success and the
longevity that they had so long because
it had been going on since they was eight or nine
years old to the time they made 40.
Makes sense.
Okay. So we all
agree we need LeVar Ball back.
False. Yeah, I miss LeVar
anyway, man.
Yeah, I miss LeVar Ball. anyway man and lavar if you're listening
to this join our show man we would love to have as a part of this show for us yeah please man
we would love to have you up here for us that'd be dope okay so dan hurley recently talked about
his success and uconn success being because of his personal work with a sports psychologist that helped him find his best self.
How do you guys feel about that connection with the coach going to the sports psychologist?
Maurice first.
Well, I don't know.
I thought it was a teachable moment for other coaches.
You know, and I didn't really.
I know we've all played for coaches in our lives,
right, who've all been like, you know, kind of fucked up in their own way.
And they, you know, they have personal shit going on
and whatever personal thing.
It's just not even coaching,
just people who's leading something in general.
And their fucked up ways end up affecting everybody else
who they're dealing with, right?
And so when i looked at the
clip it comes from pat mcafee he was doing an interview with pat mcafee and pat mcafee was
talking about it but he was um in a nutshell he was basically saying that his father had all the
success as a legendary high school coach in new jersey and then his brother was having success at
duke and he said at that point he he was like playing basketball in college and he
was like real depressed. And he said from that point, the same sports psychologist that he was
working with then, he still works with now. And he accredits that person kind of help him to find
himself. And what it sounded like was like, it was like almost like when a person gets depressed,
like they start off on a path or a journey, and then you end up somewhere else
or, you know, doing other shit that you shouldn't be doing.
And this person kind of brought him back to center.
And so I love it just because, you know, I know the guy, I understand what he, what he,
the connection he has with UConn.
And when you hear those young dudes talking about, you know, they're connected to his
intensity and just his as serious as when
it goes on the court you can kind of see how it translates over time and so i just thought to
myself that like as much as coaches push mental health and uh players getting themselves together
this is the coach who leads the organization where the players like resemble your personality or
resemble your intensity this was a teachable moment for coaches. That's what I basically took from it and hope that other coaches took from it.
Yeah.
Yeah, when it comes to the family of the Hurleys,
they were definitely instrumental in my childhood
because I used to watch Bob Hurley play a lot,
and it was always a dream for a lot of players
to be good enough to play at St. Anthony's where his dad coached.
And his dad had this system where he would wake the players up.
They had practice at 5, 5 in the morning.
You know, a lot of great players came out of that program.
And I can just only imagine when you're dealing with a dad who wins the state champion you know is always going for state champions and then you
get a brother who hit lottery uh you don't make it to be a lottery pick and play for duke with
one of the greatest duke teams ever and now you're the little brother coming up it's like the mountain is on your shoulder
because you got to be as good as everything that was put before you and and and i could see that
being a very heavy weight so when he got to seton hall and he was he was he was a little below
average as a as a player a little below, I would say, as Seton Hall.
And having
that kind of career, I know
if he had a girlfriend, she was like, wow,
you're not doing as good
as the Hurley legacy.
And to see him win that championship
at UConn
was, it was surreal.
Definitely watching it because
I could just imagine he's looking at his
brother like you ain't went on i know what he's thinking i was looking at i was reading his stars
he dabbed his dad his dad gave him a hug because now you have won on a level that nobody in your
family has ever won on you know because your brother didn't win as a coach.
He won as a player, but he didn't win as a coach.
And so now you're the youngest one who didn't have all the success.
It wasn't as great as everybody else,
but now you're the one that wins on the highest level of coaching, you know,
because his brother is at Arizona State.
Arizona State, yep.
So that was really huge.
Pause.
Pause, yeah, that was crazy.
That was wild.
Yeah, that was wild.
Yo, what exactly is sports psychology before I answer this question?
Yeah.
What is that?
What is that?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead. They work with athletes and then like coaches to help their overall performance through
the mental side of things.
So like stress management, visualization, different things like that.
So who gave them the license to be these people?
Did they go through this or they just went to college and be like, know what?
I'm going to be a sports psychologist
because I think I can fuck with niggas' brains
once they stop playing sports.
I have a problem doing sports
or some sports-related shit.
Are they actually people who've been
in the game who's coming back to say
I went through this?
Most people,
they start off in counseling or some sort of
social work,
and then sports becomes a place where they get opportunity.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
It's like a sports dentist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want to do the athlete Steve pause
that's why I asked the question
what is the sport what's the difference
between a sports psychologist
and a psychologist
nigga like yo I'm gonna go
to college and major
in sports psychology
gotta get them on my side
my nigga it's a psychologist and major is sports psychology. Gotta get them on my side. You know what I mean?
My nigga, it's a psychologist.
Anyway, I just wanted to make a difference.
It's like the girl that switched up
from nursing to sports medicine.
Yeah, but that's a big difference though.
I'm gonna be with them niggas with the check.
That's what I'm gonna do.
Yeah, I'm going where the money at, man.
I was on live the other night, and this girl was arguing,
saying she had all ran.
And she lived in New York.
And I'm like, and she's like, yeah, we getting money
because all these girls out here just putting their cash out
on Instagram.
That's virtual pen handling.
They just putting their cash out, Instagram. That's virtual pen handling. They just putting their cash out
talking about, yo, donate.
They said, these bitches might as well be on the corner
with a job change, killer.
Virtual pen handling.
She had to be from Harlem.
She's from Harlem.
She's from Harlem.
She's from Harlem, PTO girl.
Yo, fam, so I was dying laughing, yo.
I said, virtual pen handling is genius.
Quote for that type of shit.
Yo, killer, they might as well be on the corner shaking the mug,
just throwing their cash app and Zalab talking about if you want to make a donation.
I said, well, what do you do?
She said, I'm an RN.
I'm out here saving lives and this, that, and the third.
She was hilarious, man. I'd be over here
all day talking to her.
She was saying a lot.
She was talking about
saving lives.
I said, what about during COVID? She said,
nobody died on my watch. I said,
all right.
For kids.
More of the story I just heard the mother though.
More of the story is I Google.
So you act like you're getting all this money.
I Googled the state of New York.
It said on the Google,
R running in New York.
In New York.
I just put New York,
but she said,
did you put state of city?
It said from 46,000 to like 96,000.
So she ain't know. I looked at that. I said, how much
you making? She said, yeah, we make about anywhere
from 96 to 140.
I said, I'm looking at this
shit. This shit say something
totally different. It don't say the numbers you
saying.
Or you must be talking about upstate killer
because upstate,
that ain't the city.
The city, we getting that chicken.
He said, let me tell you something right now.
I wouldn't save a nigga life for $46,000.
I wish I would be pumping a nigga chest, trying to bring a nigga back for $46,000.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I said, that's why I hate you.
This is exactly why I hate y'all.
She said, I'm doing all this shit for 46 years.
Yeah.
He's going to die for 46 years. 46 a year. He said,
I'm not saving nobody for 46.
But anyway,
back to the psychology question.
I asked that because,
um,
it's because to me,
niggas just be needing niggas to talk to.
Murda, I ain't jacking that whole shit you just put out there
talking about the little brother is the little brother.
Did your brother play basketball?
I don't even know.
I'm asking you a question.
Did Mike play basketball?
No.
All right, so I'll use another example.
Ali Mo brothers before him played basketball.
Her sticks.
Ali Mo is the best.
Yeah.
Steph on Marbury got three brothers ahead of him.
Steph is the best.
Eli Manning's father is crazy.
Then you got your brother, Peyton Manning.
I'm going to give me two Super Bowls out of this no matter what.
I don't want to hear the little brother scenario.
You're supposed to be better than everybody who come along
before you because you see where they fucked up at.
Now you want to go to a sports
psychologist.
All that is that niggas don't got
nobody to talk to that they trust.
That's what that be about. And that
niggas don't know how to feed off your emotions or
what you're going through. I'm a psychologist
every day for people.
I need consultation.
I really need to charge people.
I really do.
I sit there and give advice.
I hear they problems.
I hear everything they got to go through.
I'm sitting there like, damn, dude, I have a life of my own.
I have to sit there and hear all this shit.
Yeah, man.
Because when the eviction notice was on the door,
I was like, they gave me a flashback of when I was young,
and now my kids is in there.
You still going through that?
Yo, listen, man.
Yo, listen, bro.
I'm tired of, I want my degree without going to school,
because I have more niggas probably than a regular psychologist.
I ain't jacking, even though it's your homeboy mowing all that,
and I know everybody needs somebody
to talk to. Or a
psychiatrist or a psychologist,
you can't talk to nobody
you trust. Because listen, if I got
a problem, I'm not going to see nobody. I can call
Mason. Yo, Mason, what you think I need
to do about this? Because Mason's
smart. I'll call two, three niggas
with the same IQ level as Mason
and make an assessment.
I don't need to go pay nobody.
I'm not doing it. I'm not Jack
at sports psychology.
If you're going to be a counselor, you need
a clipboard. You got a clipboard?
Nah, murder.
See, the thing about it is this.
That's why I'm having you back
because I got to get
you with the technology. You can just use your
iPad now. They got iPad in church.
I seen the church with the iPads
in it, nigga. What you talking about?
I seen the church
with the iPads in it, man.
Yo, my nigga,
I don't even know
who was paying me. A nigga was in my
house the other day, murder. Nigga said,
yo, you got a pen?
I said, for what?
I signed my deals on the phone.
Everything transferred to money.
Nigga, I don't know the last time I need a pen. A pen, the contract
is DocuSign. Signed easy.
Nigga said, what do you know?
I don't have a pen, homeboy.
What do you want to write down?
Somebody's phone number? What are you talking about?
Put it in your phone.
You know what irks me too?
Let me ask you this, Macy, and I owe y'all.
When you call somebody, do you push one first still?
No.
Doesn't it ever occur?
Yeah, yeah.
Then you put the one and the dash.
Yeah, because, yo,
you know what's crazy? God bless the dad.
My mother had an
argument with my son.
This was about eight, nine years ago.
She like, yo, would you tell him you gotta
push one first to call out
the number? I'm like, ma, you ain't gotta do that no
more. You ain't gotta do that. I said, nah,
you just, every code in
itself. Then she got mad at both of us, so this thing, get out. I just wanted to got to do that no more she ain't you ain't got to do i said nah you just area code in itself
then she got mad at both of us so this thing get out i just want to see if you knew not to push
one no more then i'm gonna have a meeting nigga yeah that's crazy well that did not go where i
expected it to go but um thanks for sharing that. All right, y'all. So we are
going to go to break. And then when we return, we're going to talk about Tiger Woods, interesting
golf preparation. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic
Boy, isn't countin'
Got you feelin' like a option
Maybe I'm my own problem, babe
She tired of hearin hearing I don't know
What's happening to me won't flow Dealing with this thing called trust
But she ain't really thinking bout it She wanna be free
Why am I in this woman's way i don't want to see her walk away i wish somebody told me the rules
disagreements let her win then it's cool even when i'm right this ain't about you
welcome back now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day tonight the celtics
will play the kings underdog fantasy has the bonus at four and a
half first quarter points to him higher or lower mace higher jaylen brown is at three assists
you have them higher or lower cam higher higher hey and derrick white is at 24 and a half points rebounds and assists do you have a
higher or lower mace lower lower two okay download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your
picks too okay so we haven't talked about both in a minute tiger woods
is abstaining from sex to remain laser focused for the masters his friend shared he's working
really hard in the gym he's eating right he's even eliminated sex what do you think about this
preparation reveal and his friend letting the world know this information yeah i don't agree
with it um and the reason i don't agree with it because yeah hey i remember when i was uh i was
locked up right and i remember when he came out with all that uh he got caught with like the 19
girls right and before he got caught, he was playing amazing.
And so this ain't really a popular thing to say,
but it gives you like a superpower when you like function in that mold where you got 19 girls, you know, you have influence over them
and they doing what you want to do.
And, you know, you just, you got like elite level confidence.
It ain't really popular to say, but I think like that's when he was playing his best,
when he had elite level confidence and all of this, these extracurricular activities.
Right. And so I thought that that translated well.
So I think since he's trying to revive his career, you know, he shouldn't exclude that.
You know, I think that that was part of his confidence or part of the thing that made him special.
But I just don't think it's a popular thing to say outside.
So that's just my take on it.
So you think the 19 sneak offs is the thing that made him play well?
Yeah.
I want to separate this because people will kill you on it.
So I ain't advocating nothing against him and his wife and all the
indiscretions and all that.
But I've been in a place where you're playing with multiple women,
and I know how it personally feels.
And you feel like you're a superhero and walking on clouds.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think that that translates to everything you do.
You know, it just gives you a different swag.
And I'm being dead serious about this.
And I was saying to myself, but I think when he got caught
and his whole little ring got jam you know he got jammed up he like man you know this
is how i used to this is how i was moving in the shadows and i think that that was part of him
his superpowers being gone but it's something i don't know it's something about being with
multiple beautiful women that gives you a confidence that you probably can't produce anywhere else
that's just my take okay since you're talking player talk um it could be a code to bring the
freaks out you know you know i'm definitely it might be a cold word to the 19
when y'all hear me say this
I'm back you know
he said
he's running around
that's why his man said it
you know what I'm saying
he sent his man to say this to the
public so when people hear it
they're like oh you're
a tiger yeah that's what we are
yeah that's what we are where is this happening that um stat where's they playing this um
yeah let me check this match because that got a lot to do with it too it'll let me know how
how real i am i ain't trying to mess up his new situation
i'm just saying this is stuff players do they have codes you know his player codes like they
use code cam this is his code this is his code right here he said yo if i come on tv if you ever
if i'm ever in town and i tell you I'm not doing this,
everybody know he's going to be rolling hot tonight.
That's the best signal.
It's in Augusta, Georgia.
Yeah, see.
Close to me.
That means pop out.
He sent the line to Atlanta. Yeah, that's pop out. He said the line to Atlanta.
Yeah, that's pop out.
That's what I like to say.
My take on it is this, is that we're not in the circles that Tiger Woods is in.
We're not going to bump into a nigga and say, oh, I just seen Tiger.
We're not in none know, we're not going to bump into a nigga and say, oh, I've just seen Tiger. Like, we're not, and
none of Tiger was circles.
So for me, this must be going
on in the circles that he's in.
That he's a rumored sex fiend
and he can't stop.
And that's what's circulating
around Augusta, Florida,
wherever he resides at. You know
Tiger can't stop fucking.
And that's why he hasn't been winning.
So they had to put that out there publicly
where people like us that are not in his circle be like,
why did he even say that?
Yeah.
Because them little motherfucking circles
that them golfers is in and them little towns that Tiger be in,
he's a sex maniac
and he hasn't been winning since he became a sex maniac and now that needs to be thrown out there
for the public he even stopped sex y'all because he don't want to deny it it ain't like he ain't
saying he not that's what i take we just out the loop and we just catching up. So that means, according to Cam, that means Tiger is coming to play this weekend.
That's basically what he's saying.
I'm coming to play this week.
Yeah.
And to be honest with you, this is Moe, this is you, right?
This is not a good thing to say because if you win, sex has been the problem.
Mmm.
sex been the problem so now you win
yo we can't fuck boo
what
the jinx is in your pussy's bag
it's poison
it's stale
I can't win like this
you gotta stay with it
this is the worst time for him to win,
making that announcement.
Because when you lose, you're gonna be like Tiger,
you was fucking wasn't you.
Yeah, either way it goes bad.
Yeah, exactly.
Shout out to Tiger Woods.
He can't be flewed out, he can't be flewed out no more,
Maurice.
Yo, Mason. Yo Mase.
Yeah.
You think, I was thinking about this
before we go to the next side,
I know Stabby about going to the next side.
You think we had the best hosts in our buildings
when we grew up?
We was like breathing that shit.
We definitely had the best hosts in our buildings.
Yeah, I think all of us from our neighborhood,
we super like up niggas, but there's something wrong with all of us.
I was thinking about niggas we grew up with.
I think we was breathing asbestos for mad years
because we was in a real tenement.
We wasn't in a renovated, yo.
Then all of a sudden when niggas get 15, 16 years old, they start finding
asbestos.
Evacuate.
I think we might have
been breathing that shit. I'm smoking, so I've been
thinking about it, but
we might have been breathing asbestos.
Pause. Everybody had their side effects.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
That shit might be long-term,
yo.
Yeah.
My bad, Stab.
We from the Nino Brown tenements.
Yeah, the governor got to shoot up some bread.
Governor, if you listening to this, you got to shoot up some bread.
Yeah, man.
You got to be deaf out.
Yeah, that's a fact.
That's hazard pay.
Yeah.
That's hazard pay. That's hazard pay, like, my nigga.
It's definitely like you got to pay some hazard pay on asbestos.
You know
what's going to happen after this? It's going to be a
lawyer that's going to make a commercial that says,
if you lived in New York City in a tenement
during 1991
and 1997, call me.
You may be subject to money.
Yo, bro, we want our PC.
Telling you that now.
And niggas will be mad, yo.
How the niggas gonna kill us if we give that shit that money?
That's a fact.
Get a contract after the lawsuit.
I definitely need it.
I'm telling you, yo, Mo, I'm hot,
but I'm not bugging like, we was just a school
and then one week, out of nowhere,
niggas had to evacuate schools for months because niggas talk about,
yo, it's asbestos in here.
We've been in here for years.
Talk about, yo, it's in the buildings.
It's in the schools.
Evacuate.
Yo, why y'all making us rush out now?
We've been in here for 10 joints.
It was a big deal, bro.
And I'm like, yo, that shit might have some long-term effect.
I feel good, and we good and everything.
But I'm like, sometimes I'll be feeling like I'll be bugging.
But then I'll be thinking, nah, I don't be bugging.
Niggas be bugging.
So I wanted to ask some things that I feel,
because we was breathing the same air pores at that time.
Fucked up.
Yeah, they showed me a picture of a Bastos.
I said, that's the way the building always looked.
Yeah.
I didn't know the difference.
Yeah.
I didn't know the difference.
That's a fact.
That's the fact.
The building was made of a Bastos.
You ever see this?
This is a Bastos.
I said, that was in every building. I of this. You ever see this? This is the best. I said that was in every
building.
That was holding the
building together.
I wasn't
bugging. That shit was a big deal, bro.
Yeah, that's why I never
make a big deal about it.
That's everywhere.
That's what. That's in my house. It was.
That's what I was saying.
It was in my house.
I know it was in my house.
Yeah, that's in the school.
That's in my apartment.
Yeah, it's everywhere you go.
It was his best nose.
My bad.
No, all good, all good.
Okay, and then when talking about Yokic and after this we're probably
gonna wrap Gilbert Arena said he is the worst MVP in the past 30 years he said Jokic is probably
statistically when it comes to overall game the worst MVP winner he's the worst MVP winner in
the last 40 years he said in 2021 Jokic's team was fifth. He averaged 26,
8, and 10. What was
the historic part of
that? Is that a take that
any of you guys agree with?
I'll go to
them first. I'll say
the short part, but then I'll go to them. It had
to do with me asking
when you have these
international stars and they come to the American
game, like, are they criticized through the same lens that you criticize American players?
And I don't know, you know, but I like Gilberto Reyes. I love his takes. He's super intelligent.
As silly as he is and as funny as he is, he's a super, super intelligent and witty guy.
But I don't know if y'all have a take, but it just made me question.
I said, can these international guys
come to the American market
and be judged the same as,
you know, just American players?
Because on the,
when he was talking to Shannon Sharp about it,
he was talking about anybody who played
and was the MVP,
their team was either one or two.
And he didn't appreciate what
dude's team not being one or two.
So I'll let y'all take it from here.
That makes
a lot of sense because
what he's basically
talking about
is that
they
finished with 47 wins
and he's basically thinking
that doesn't make sense for MVP especially.
But I thought 27 and 10 would be MVP numbers, but without it being on a first or second team, it's not MVP according to tradition because traditionally that's the way it's always been.
So I can agree with that to some extent,
but that year he deserved to be MVP.
And I don't know, to some people they may say,
well, you know, Gilbert just saying something for clickbait,
but I think Gilbert is very bold and he's very accurate,
but that's what some might say, you know?
Yeah, look, a lot of that was just short clip.
If you actually watched the whole clip,
he had context behind what he was saying.
He was saying when Russell Westbrook got MVP,
the team might have been in seventh place or tenth place,
but he averaged a triple-double, so it was special.
Then he mentioned somebody else who had got MVP.
I can't remember who it was.
Michael Jordan.
He said Michael Jordan's team was in fifth place or sixth place
when he got MVP.
But that year, he was defensive player of the year,
steals leader of the year, all-star MVP, league MVP, first-team All-NBA, so it makes sense.
He's like, everybody else who wins MVP usually is in first, second,
and third place, and that was his argument.
So I get it.
Mace, you hit the nail on the head, pause,
because that's what I was going to say.
Traditionally, because I have this argument all the time,
because that's what I was going to say.
Traditionally, because I have this argument all the time,
traditionally, the person who gets MVP, team got to be winning.
And now, because it's not the Joker,
other players may have a problem with that.
Like, yo, this nigga team ain't winning.
He ain't in first, second. Even though this year he is, how is he getting MVP?
And they got a point, because if we're going off tradition,
y'all usually don't give it to a team,
a person whose team is not first, second, or third.
Like to me, it's crazy.
As much as a bigger lead,
a bigger lead than Boston has on the rest of the NBA,
especially on the Eastern Conference,
that nobody is mentioned in the top three candidates for MVP for Boston.
Tatum, Jalen Brown,
not saying they have individual performances like somebody else,
but being played as a team or being a leading scorer on a team
with such cohesiveness has to be awarded too.
So that's my thing. It's like, how Jason Tatum not in the top three for MVP candidates
when his team is a mile ahead away from everybody?
Oh, because they're such a good team that it doesn't matter
that they shouldn't have an MVP candidate.
And I don't think that's right either.
So I think as much as – real quick, last thing I'll say is agreeing
with Mason. I
get where Gil was coming from,
but I still do think
Joker deserves that repeat.
Go ahead, Mo.
I was going to ask you this.
Do you think that's,
just maybe think about, you know, when they were talking about
John Moran can be the face of the league, and
these other young
guys aren't the faces.
Do you think that this is like the NBA saying,
let's make him the faces LeBron is gone and we don't really have Katie.
We don't really have stuff and let us,
let us advertise and promote and push something else just because we don't
have the next coming thing, you know, could that play a role in it?
That definitely could play a role
and and to cam's point what he said earlier is that when russell westbrook won it he had a triple
double but that year that he that gilbert is talking about he was right there with a triple
double it wasn't actually 26 and 10 it was was more like 26, 11, and 8.
So if you add the eight assists, they're on to the 11 rebounds and the 26 points.
That's pretty close to a triple-double.
So he was almost close to averaging a triple-double.
And then...
Yeah, but make it a long straight short sorry just wrapping up
i see where gil was coming from but joke is nice bro yeah and he comes with the bully effect pause
so it's like that's why he's the mvp because he does what he want and And pause, any MVP is going to do whatever they want.
That's what all MVPs had in common.
They were able to do whatever they want whenever they wanted to do it.
And if we judge him by that, he's definitely MVP
because nobody stops him from doing whatever he wants to do on the floor.
stops him from doing whatever he wants to do on the floor.
And then before we wrap, because the final four is this weekend,
we won't be able to discuss till after, I got to get y'all's picks.
So starting with the men's, NC State versus Purdue,
who do you guys have?
Oh, I'm going.
Go ahead, Mark.
Go ahead, Mark. I actually think Purdue is going to be NC State Okay, thank you Mo
Thank you Mo
I'm going with Zach
I'm going with Zach
Purdue
Yeah, I'm going with Purdue too
Okay
Alabama versus UConn.
Who do y'all got?
Come on, Seth.
I got to ask.
Hey, come on.
UConn.
Okay.
UConn.
I got to go with UConn.
UConn as well.
Okay.
And then for the women's, NC State versus South Carolina.
Oh, South Carolina.
South Carolina.
Don Staley gets it done.
South Carolina too, man.
I'm excited.
This make me more happy, baby,
talking about the women's, yo.
I'm really upset I'm going to miss this murder.
You got to go there and act crazy.
This game
later on tonight
is going to be wild, man.
Wild. White America will be
in the building, man.
They will, man. White America's
going to be in the building. I might wear
my Caitlin Clark jersey.
I'm thinking about it.
Yeah, listen. What you got to think about is this.
As much as white people love other white people,
it has not really been a superstar basketball player since Larry Bird
that was purely white American.
I'm talking about on that level.
Caitlyn Clark is like Larry Bird.
I know that's a way back for a lot of these young people.
But this is my point.
Y'all don't even know what it's like to have an American white superstar from America.
Y'all niggas would go crazy.
It's almost, you know, when y'all got Eminem, that type shit.
Crazy.
Is he from middle America?
Is he from there, nigga?
He's middle America. Yo, this is like, nigga. She's middle America.
Yo, this is like Eminem versus Eminem, though.
Paige is not Haley.
Paige is definitely not going out like Haley.
But this one I'm saying, this one makes this game so great
because she was hurt.
She might feel like, if I didn't get hurt,
y'all might not even be talking about Kaylin. Yeah. Nigga, if I didn't get hurt, y'all might not even be talking about Kaylin.
Yeah.
Nigga, if I didn't get fucked up, y'all know what time it is.
Coach Gino already, that's why I really want to see it,
because Gino done stirred the pot.
This little girl from Iowa is evil, bro.
You can see it in her face, bro.
Yes.
That girl is evil.
She got a problem, man.
And I like her.
I like that attitude. You see? got a problem, man. And I like her. I like that attitude.
You see...
Yeah, like...
It bothers her.
Like, you see...
And, you know, I like Paige, too. Paige is more
friendly, more upbeat, you know.
Paige is like Oscar De La Hoya
when he's the golden boy, smiling all the time.
And, you know, it's great,
man. I just want to uplift everybody.
Kalen Clark is all business, man.
He's all business.
And I'm not saying that's going to reflect on the game or anything,
but going back to the pick, I'm going with Iowa, man,
until further notice.
Sorry, Utah.
I'm going with Eminem.
And then Maurice, you're staying loyal?
Yeah, he got flewed out.
He got flewed out.
You better say you called, nigga.
Okay.
Well, the picks are in.
We'll see who is correct
after this weekend concludes.
Maurice, thank you for being here. Safe travels.
But that is all the time we have for today.