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I'm joined here with my man Mace, our other co-host, Arabia, and my man Michael Irvin. What's going on, everybody? How y'all doing? Killer was good, man. How you doing? I like you as the host. I'd hosted plenty of times. Yeah, you did kind of good.

This really isn't my first time hosting, actually. I'm just letting you know. I appreciate it. I'm just letting you know. You've never hosted, actually. Hey, I don't want to take over, you know. You want to get paid, though. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do.

Yeah, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. What's going to do? on Arabia. Mike, how y'all doing today? Doing great. Thank you. Happy to be here. Happy to be home from San Francisco. It was nice to meet you in person, Mike. Oh. Yes, it was. Yes. We, you know, and we had a little moment conversation right there. And then you can tell we vibe so much.

We showed up with the same colors on tonight. You know what I mean? So we, you know, we still vibe. So yeah, that's what that was. And we talked about Cam and his birthday. It's a birthday. It's a birthday. You know what I mean? You know. You know, Mike.

It's a birthday. Hey. Mike is it. It's a birthday. Camby. Camby, are you telling people how old you are? Well, you never know you. Think about it, Mike.

Think about it is, you know, person like yourself, Mace, myself. We can't, even if we want to hire that we can't, we got Wikipedia. They don't know how old I am regardless, man. I'm happy to be here, though. It's a privilege to be 50 years old, man. You know what I'm saying?

At this point, and looking this good. You know, at the end of the day, I don't have to, I got my hairlines still. The young bitch is still on me. Yeah, you got all your teeth, rain falling out your mouth. Man, man, you know what I'm saying? It's a privilege, man.

You don't see that. Did you see what you did? Care care. Why is that the barometer? Hairline, bitch is still on you. Why is the barometer? Why don't the first thing came out? Yo, listen, Mike, let me tell you.

First of all, let me make a statement before I answer your question, right? Nigger, I don't know what it is. I don't have to answer. I don't know why niggas my age is in style. Like, I'll be telling bitches this 23, 24. for, this ain't what you want, I'll fuck your life up. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm telling you I'm too well, I'm seasoned, man. This ain't really, mine games is too much with me, you know what I'm saying? I don't know why I'm in style like this. I don't get it, but I do get it at the same time. Secondly, to answer your question, Mike, when it comes to hairline, females, etc., we and Mays have this conversation.

I believe we had the conversation on the phone, right? And you kind of alluded to it a few episodes, episodes ago, when you, we were just talking about Scarface and Sosa and everything else, if you're not in it to win, what you win it for? You know, if you're not in it to be like, yo, you know, when I got in the game to start, not talking about sports, talking about period, like, you know, when you start, especially you two, all three of us, we had great success at a young age. And when you're young, you're like, I want to, I want all the bad bitches.

I want to draw the fly cars. And if you're not in it at that And when you're 22, 23, I don't know what you win it for. Now, when you get older, you want financial stability and so on and so forth, but you win it to win.

You don't be in it to be like, yo, I hope I come in fourth place. If I come in forth, that'll be all right for me. That's what I'm saying. So when you be like, the bitches and the headline, yo, man, I can't tell you why they're on me.

You know what I'm saying? But I understand why they're on me. You know, secondly, Arabia, thank you for such a great birthday tribute. I really appreciated that. Thank you so much, man. It was really my pleasure. Yeah, thank you so much, man.

You do a terrific job on the show. I was just telling Mace, man, it's a tragedy you don't live out here. You would have way more work working with us, man. But I want to tell you thank you. From the birthday... I appreciate that. Yeah, no problem. From the birthday tribute, what I was seeing is that a lot of people were saying that

Mike was holding on to you a little too tight during the interview and he wouldn't let go out the waist and all that I'm just saying a lot of people was like Mike was on that and was gripping on the hip a little too hard

I wish I had a cueed up if I had a cueed up then I would show Mike would, yo murder I don't know if you seen him Mike had a tight grip on a right with his waist on the borderline

I don't think Mike met nothing bad by I just think it's instinct with my, I think it's like, I just think it's instinct, man. Yeah. How was? Did you feel that? Did you hear about that Arabia too or was just me in my page?

No, I definitely saw the comments. Right. In the moment, it was totally different. And I will say, when I saw him and we were talking, I reached around the shoulder first. So he wasn't like grabbing me so much as like it was a, it is what it is, reunion embrace. And I, you know, was just happy to see. him and wanted to share the moment.

So he wasn't being, you know, inappropriate. I think we were just enjoying ourselves in the moment, so, you know. Yeah, that's good to know, Mike, because I'm the head of HR, you know. I'm not sure, man. I understand you, man. I don't understand me.

Mike, a little East Coast hate early in the morning. That's all it is. A little East Coast hate. That's how niggins hate on you. In the East Coast, they go corporate on you. Well, man. I don't understand it, man.

I don't understand it, though. Anytime I engage in any way with any female on camera and certainly anyone that has any kind of attraction to them, people find some way I did something. I don't know why. I mean, it's sorry. Maybe, maybe, I don't know. I was just, you know, it's always I did something. You know, I don't know. But I just, you know, she's a friend.

I hugged her. You know, I know she said, that's what a real man feel like. Okay, Mike. I'm not going to. Yeah. Magneto. I like that.

Yeah. It did not give 60. I would say that. When I reached around the shoulder, the shoulders don't give 60. So we'll say that. Yeah. Yeah, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, I don't know if you got that horsepower yet, Mike, but

it might be because of that. Well, listen, I would like to say, first of all, on behalf of me and Mace, we are very, very happy to, because of the show it is, what it is, to have a Dallas cowboy and a Washington commander being so cool, you know. Be your friends, hugging, sharing a moment, actually giving me a birthday shoutout on the same screen. Thank you guys, man. I feel we're responsible for that.

Yeah, yeah. She's really a red skin, though. Yeah, I mean, we're going to let her be a commander. No, I mean, at the end of the day, I just don't want anybody to feel that we're coming across wrong, because, you know, when you say the redskins now, it's racial. Commander. Yeah, yeah, so I want to tell you guys, thank you. Well, let's get to the game last night, Super Bowl 60,

the Seattle Seahawks beat the New England Patriots 29-13. Mike, we're going to start with you. How did you feel about the game? I felt, honestly, blah. It was just, you know, it was just, it was a blah game. Now, great defense, great defense by Seattle. But for excitement and everything, you know, I'm happy for Seattle. Congratulations to Seattle.

I love the story of Sam Donald being the first starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl after playing for five plus three previous teams. You know, so so all of those stories are great. But as far as excitement go in the game, it was, you know, a blah game. Just a kind of like the whole Super Bowl week was for me, actually, just kind of a blah week. but they got a good win. And the only thing I say coming out of it, the two stories, where I ask about Sam Donald?

Now, where do we start ranking him now? You know, that he, you know, does he get the bust thrown off his name? Because remember you're a third pick of the draft and then you then pan out, they call you a bus, and now you're a Super Bowl champion. And then also,

how would Drake may respond to the adversities in the way he played in that Super Bowl? But the game, for as far as excitement, man, it was a lot. Arabia? Yeah, first of all, I want to say congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, fourth Super Bowl appearance, second Super Bowl victory. Congratulations to Mike McDonald. He becomes the third youngest head coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl.

Mike Tomlin and Sean McVeigh did it at 36, and Mike McDonald is 38 years old. And also, again, like Mike was alluding to, congratulations to Sam Darnold. He's the fourth quarterback in NFL history to win a Super Bowl in his first season with the team. The other three quarterbacks to do it are Tom Brady, Trent Dilfer, and Matthew Stafford with the Rams. So definitely a lot of accomplishments as far as that's concerned. But I agree.

The game was kind of blah more of a defensive game. The Patriots did a really good job at holding Seattle to three points at a time. Patriots really couldn't get anything started on offense. I think a lot of it is due to that young left side of the offensive line with the rookies, Jared Wilson, and also left tackle Will Campbell, who really were just getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.

But also, Seattle, moving down the field, but really couldn't find the end zone too much for the majority of the game. A lot of times it was a two possession or less game for most of the game. So definitely more of a defensive, boring game, not too many points scored into the fourth quarter.

But congratulations to Seattle. And also, I think it's worth mentioning, even though he plays offensive line, Gray Zabel, who's having a really phenomenal rookie season, he's a guard for the Seattle Seahawks. and it's one of the reasons why their run game works so much and why Sam Darner was so comfortable in the pocket. So, you know, not a very exciting game, but still a lot to celebrate.

And congratulations to Kenneth Walker for winning MVP. I think he absolutely deserved it. So it's still a really, a lot of good to come from the game. Yeah, I really think this game was so boring. I was actually watching it on a flight, right? So as I'm watching it on a flight, people are cheering all on the flight for New England. And but after the second quarter, I kind of knew they wasn't going to win because it just seemed like they wasn't prepared to score any points. And when you come to the Super Bowl, you got to be ready to put up points and you got to be ready to put up points early.

I don't think there's many teams that fall behind early and win and win Super Bowls, right? Normally, the momentum just soars in the second half. So shout out the Sam Donald's like everyone have stated. It's great to see him win after them going from several teams. I think it was just a year ago that we were talking about him really not being significant in the NFL. And now to see him on this stage, the win against a prominent team like New England,

that's been the number one team, seemed like the number one team right there with Indiana before Andy Jones got hurt. What is his name, Andy Jones? The quarterback. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones, I apologize. Mike got you for him.

up with that shit. Yeah, so, you know, with him actually doing, with this game, I even looked at Drake Mays as, I knew the stage was going to be too bright for him. And we oftentimes see these quarterbacks that make it to the NFL, and then they make it to the championship game on the first year. And they just don't get it done because it took everything to get there, and they just don't have what it take to get over the hump. So shout out to the Seahawks.

and I look forward to them losing next year. They won't repeat or anything like that. But enjoy the moment. You still fly commercial? Sometimes. Okay. No, I was just wondering. You said people were chairing.

I didn't know. Leave every week. Yeah, you know, sometimes when I'm doing what I'm doing, people don't like me to be too rich, right? So I got to. I'm just, I'm surprised. I don't want to be in the commoners sometimes. I ain't know you want to be in the tube with them demons.

That's what I lied to heard last pass. The last pastor said he didn't want to be in the two with them demons. So I was just wondering if you still fly commercial. No, these days are more philanthropic, you know. I like that. I'm trying to help other people more. I like that for you. Let me ask you guys, and let me get my comment as well real quick.

I think it was going to be, you know, if it wasn't a bunch of touch, scored or high offensive game, I think the people were going to have this attitude about the Super Bowl, regardless. Me, I thought it was actually a decent game. It was a defensive game mainly. But, you know, we're used to seeing Patrick Mahomes or Sequin Barclay.

Like, it wasn't the names that we were used to. I was watching people on social media and watching people throughout Super Bowl weekend complain how, San Francisco, it's boring, it's not this. I've seen Gilly shot to my niggily. I'm giving my tickets away. I don't even really want to be here for the Super Bowl. Was the whole weekend, you guys were out there for a while,

was the whole weekend kind of blah, period, not just the game. Was the game basically a statement of how the whole week was? Arabia, we'll start with you, Arabia. Absolutely. Arabia, let's go. So for me, I was working so hard from the time I landed in San Francisco

until the time that I left. Like, I did not eat all day. I did not drink water all day. Like, so by the time I got off, I wasn't even focused on fun. Um, so I would say possibly because it was boring for me because I was just working, working, working. But the one time that I did go out to have fun, it was jumping. Like, like jumping.

Everybody in a mother, father, brother, sister was at the Jordan party. I was at the Jordan house pretty much for two or three days straight. Um, so the time that I did kind of let me. my hair down. Like, it was definitely fun. But San Francisco is a beautiful city. Just the infrastructure as far as being Super Bowl ready, they were not. Even just like the Jordan house, too. Like it was their row houses in San Francisco. So for example, last year in New Orleans covering the Super Bowl, the Jordan house that they took over was way more spread out, way more room for people to kind of roam around. But this year is a tiny row house. So everybody was just on each other.

So for me, kind of, yeah, because I was working a lot. Mike, you were going to say something. Go ahead. Mike, we know you've been to several Super Bowl weeks. Let us, you chime in. Hey, hey, hey. I was in the streets, and I'm going to tell you, the streets weren't popular right. It wasn't right.

I, no lie, no lie. I told my preach that on the set when we were shooting on the White House set, I said, listen, because we were talking, they were so excited about coming, you know. And I'm, you know, I'm bringing my first crew from the white house, bring my first crew to a Super Bowl. You know, I've been telling them about it, so I want to tell them,

I want to show him. Man, this thing was, man, this thing was real blah. All the way around, all the way around. I mean, everywhere, you know, even the eyesight. What you see. It's like, I don't know. This city is not, it's not like, you know, for taking all that money out here, It's not like a beautiful place.

And then, you know, it didn't seem like we got an influx of beautiful people. And just didn't make things as beautiful as it could be, if you know what I mean. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean. I understand. You couldn't move around camp. You couldn't move nowhere. It's not big enough either.

People came in late. Like usually, you know, you can end Wednesday, and people start creeping in Thursday, Friday, and Saturday through the route. through the roof. People literally got in Saturday and then played the game, I guess, and then got out. So it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't that.

Got you. Listen, we talked about how good Seattle's defense is. Would you say this defense, Mike Arabia-Mace, is just as good or is it better than the Legion of Boom when they won the Super Bowl previously? We'll start with you, Mike. You know, I earlier this year, I forgot who Seattle was playing.

And I think we even talked about it. I think we did talk about it. I even exed out there, tweeted out, man, they look like the 85 bears or one of them still current defense, one of those historically great defenses. And people like, well, stop being crazy. Like, no, I'm serious. Because they dominated on that defensive line. Now, the Legion of Boom had that back end that was. so dominating too.

You know, they had Michael Benny and all those guys up top. But we had Cam Chancellor back there and, you know, Eric Thomas, and they dominated. But this defensive front, I would take this defensive front over that defensive front. So I would take this defense in what I saw. That was an epic performance, an epic performance by Seattle in that game today. Now, I don't know if Ray, if you remember the game, Seattle played. Denver. I'll never forget it. When he won his first Super Bowl, I remember DeMarius Thomas

was coming on an under route and Cam Chancellor hit him. It's early in the game. I said, oh, this game over. I knew the game was over. But I saw the way he hit Demeris Thomas. I knew the rest of the team felt that. You know what I mean? And that's what that leads you to boom brought. But this defensive line were pretty incredible tonight. All right, we are?

Yeah, I think this, season Seattle defense plays better complementary football because the defensive front is so dominant. It just makes the secondary better. I think the Legion of Boom is historic, the 2000 Ravens, the 85 Bears, the Steelers, Steel Curtain. I love it. But I think I would

take this Seahawks defense only because of the complimentary football aspect. Witherspoon is already good. Woolen is already good. But when you pair that with the dominant front, it just makes all three levels of defense even better. But what I will say is that I think the level of competition that the Seahawks

had to face in the Super Bowl isn't as competitive as the Legion of Boom had to face. So it's maybe not the same one-to-one comparison. I think if the Seahawks were playing a better offense defensively, we would have had a more accurate comparison to see which one was better, but it was a bit of an easier route for them this season. But I agree with Mike. I'll take this one only because of the complimentary football aspect. Yeah, I think actually when it comes to this particular defense,

I think they're better than the Legion of Boom. I think they led the league number one in scoring defense at 17.2 or 5 somewhere in that range. And I just think the Legion of Boom had a better name. You know, this team didn't come with a name. They felt they do the marketing. And because of the marketing, people think the Legion of Boom is better. But I think all around it's a better defense. They got a name out today.

They were talking about it during the game called the Dark Side or something like that. Yeah, they took it. It's long to get the name, though. They took to the... Right. We knew Legion of Boom, and the guys were more urban, you know? So, you know, it looks a little better. These niggas black as shit, too, murder?

They ain't urban, though. What, they... What they're Republicans? I don't know. What's that mean? They're not urban. What does that mean? I don't get that one, bud, but I...

I'm down, but I... Yeah, yeah. You're going to take their urban card. It's crazy. I mean, it's not... It's not... They're not as out. spoken as you remember the Legion of Boom.

Okay, Richard Sherman. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I like Sherman and them attitude a little bit better when they come to marketing. I could go with that. Yeah, but these guys, they definitely got it done. You know, that's what I mean about urban. When you're urban, everything you do, you make noise about it.

That's not true. I'm not going to go with that. We know some silent killers. We know some niggas that don't be talking. How many? We grew up with them. We know a few niggas that didn't, that wasn't tall. I'm talking a lot.

No, I mean, but in sports. Sports, why? In sports. How many urban people you know that don't showboat when they're playing it? It's a good point. It's a very good point. And they're from the ghetto. Mike, that's a great point that Mace is saying.

I don't know. You showboat? You gotta sell it. Mace, you made up the slogan. You made up the slogan years ago. When your first album before your album came out, you say you got to do it when you're doing, when you do it, you got to do it. When you do it, you got to do it like to do it for TV.

Everything you do, you got to sell it. So I totally agree with you with that statement. Let me ask you guys, because y'all, we talked about it a little bit earlier. This is just a personal question, Mike Arabia, Mace. Do you think they got the MVP right with Kenneth Walker getting the MVP? Mike, we'll start with you. Kenneth Walker has been the MVP for that team through the playoffs, especially since Charmonee got hurt.

Now, I thought you should get a defensive MVP to give the MVP the whole defense, to be honest with you, the way they played and shut down New England's defense. But I didn't have a problem with you giving it to Kenny Walker because he did run and he ran well. He made the difference in that game. He had big runs, 25, 30-yard runs.

He kept getting on the edge. So I didn't have a problem with it, but I thought you should have given it to the whole defense if you can do that. Arabia? Yeah, I completely agree. I would have liked to see someone on the defense get it, maybe Witherspoon, someone like that. But I'm really not met at Kenneth Walker getting it.

I think it alleviated pressure from the Seattle's passing game to have the run game go like that it did. J.S.N was kind of dealing with an injury. He was on the field. He was off the field. He was going to the locker room. And then Cooper Cup didn't have this huge game. Rashi Shaheed is more of a return specialist.

So the past game wasn't just dominant. So the fact that they could control time of possession, control the game in that way and keep the ball on the ground, keep the ball out of harm's way because sometimes Sam Donald is known for that as well, turning the ball over. I think Kenneth Walker absolutely deserved MVP, although, you know, this defense is really what shine. The better side of the ball was defense.

But, you know, I'm glad they gave it to him and not Sam Darnel. I'll say that. Well, I'm actually in agreement with, with Mike. I think it would have been great to see the whole defense get that MVP and I don't know how they would have given everybody a trophy. But I think it's really cool when you see people do like what's his name? SGA does over at OKC. When he wins it, he brings the whole team out. I think it does something to the whole entire league, just seeing people win together, especially when, if you see that in football, because we've never seen it. We've never seen somebody, you know,

get the trophy and really make it about everybody else but themselves. You know, they thank people, but they didn't make it back about them. But I think this would have been a beautiful moment for the Seattle team because all year, they got it done by committee. It's not been just one person that did everything. Every game, it was somebody else that brought Seattle to the forefront. One week, it was Sam Donald. Next week is the defense.

Next week is Kenneth. And I know some of you keep saying, Kennev, But all this year, it wasn't just Kenneth. It was a collective effort. Mays, who shares the MVP that gets it like? I get with you. It's morally right. Yeah.

I'm just saying this would have been great because it was so boring. And like they're saying in San Francisco, something good should come from the dark side. I actually disagree with all three of you, actually. And I really, I was sitting there thinking about it, And Mike, you could tell me because it's not realistic. Obviously, it's not realistic. But I thought the kicker Jason Myers should actually get the MVP.

Mike, why would that never happen? He passed Ladene and Tomlinson and playoff points ever. He had 17 points last night. He actually got them to victory, my personal opinion. Now, we know that Kenneth Walker got them up the field, and the defense was outstanding. But you don't win the game without him completing. And we've seen all these mishaps happen all season,

all season was special. special teams. Why won't a kick ever get the MVP, Mike? Tell me why. Why don't you respect them enough? Just, and you, you're included, Mike. You're included. No, no, no, we respect them enough, but this is also, you know, it's big brand stuff now. They, they want the quarterback to get it for a reason because everybody knows a quarterback. And when you're talking about the MVP, I'm on my way to Disney World, all of that stuff, it has a recognizable face. The kicker ain't going to get it. I'm just telling you,

he's not going to get it. He's fucked up. Yeah. He's not going to get it. Passed the Dania. Yeah, thank you, Marie.

He passed. For real, I have the most points. I don't know. I get MVP. I would, I would have walked away mad, actually.

And not only that, in the 25, 26 playoffs, he passed with Dania Tomlinson in points. Yeah. It isn't like he just had one good game tonight.

And Mike, the Super Bowl is, but realistically, the Super Bowl is not about what you did in the playoffs. It's, I mean, it's about what you do in that game. If that game I show up Stella, then I deserved MVP.

It's no different than the time when Vaughn got the MVP. He was doing it all through the playoffs, but that game, he was the person that made the win, so he deserved MVP. That was his day, and that was that kickers' day. Jason Myers deserved an MVP. If they had gotten all the points from kicking, that's one thing. And Cam, Cam, just put all of that stuff. Cam, they just make it about that game.

He said he passed LaDania Tumblinson. Well, he has 17 points last night, Mike. Yeah, he has 17. Come on, Mike. That's the MVP night. What you're talking about? Yeah, he has 17. So don't know, I'm just, I'm just trying to add some substance.

Yeah. So last night. And he's not a quarterback. So, so I don't act like I just was talking about the whole playoffs. I threw the playoffs in to add to his 17 points last night. Game, Mike, I didn't mean to cut you up. I didn't mean not. the last step.

No, no, no, you're right. And you're right. You're absolutely right. But I would just point that out to me. I wasn't debunking what you said or point at you. I'm just pointing at him to say, see, he just used that. But you're not going to give it to the kicker. There's just no sell than that.

Now, if he had scored all the points, say the defense of battle, defense of battle, and he had scored all the points, then maybe they do that. And, you know, maybe they do that. But no, not with Kenny Walker running like he ran tonight. They're going to figure out. I would say, Arabia, do you have anything to comment on this for we move on? I do.

Yeah, I think it's like having a group project and everybody does heavy lifting and everybody does their job for the project. And then the last person's job is to hand the project in. It's important that you hand the project in so that you get the gray, you get a complete, it's an important job, but you got to remember who got you there. The heavy lifting is actually driving down the field. The offense is what drives down the field to put the kicker in good position to actually set that field goal up or that extra point up. Well, not the extra point, but field goal up. And then also defensively, you got to be able to win the game by just scoring field goals.

So the defense is what to put them in a position to be able to rely on three points at a time to stay ahead in the game. So you, the kicking, the field goals are great, but without a good defense to hold the other team off from scoring points. And without the offense driving down the field, you really don't have a kicker to even talk about. So we just got to remember what led the kicker to be in that position to begin with. Well, Raby a mad niggas wasn't handing their projects in this shit. Yeah.

If that's the case. It's been a bunch of niggas who just actually did all the work and the projects were not getting handed in. Extra points was being missed. motherfucking niggas miss playoff. It's not in the Super Bowl because projects, your analogy, were not being handed in.

It's been a lot of niggas. This season might have been the worst season for special teams and kickers. We've seen it all year. So I get with your saying. I understand that. People have to go finish the job. But there's been a lot of people

that haven't finished the job, Mace. I know you have something to say that real quick. I had a lot of eight papers that I never turned in, you know. That's what I would tell. my teachers. If I turned it in, it would have been great. But it never made it in. So can we count what was never turned in? I think we're making light of the person who turned it in, you know? It doesn't matter what it is if we don't turn it in. I think because a lot of kickers weren't doing their jobs, now we're giving credit to a fish for swimming. That's what you're supposed to do. As a kicker, you're supposed to, but you don't even play, not not you don't even play football because kickers. play football. They do. But you have one job. And if you aren't doing that one job when you come out

onto the field, that's more of a negative than when you do do it. Now you want a cookie. Now you want an MVP. Go out there and kick that thing through the post after we just drove down 40, 50, 60 yards. Like, that's the least that you can do. So I feel like we shouldn't be giving kickers credit for doing what they're supposed to do because this season a lot of kickers aren't doing what they we're supposed to do. We got to get back to the standard. So what are the role, wait, wait, Mike, what other road does the running

back have other than running? I love that question. Let me tell you. The running back, I'm sorry, I'm going to let you go. Uncle Mike, let me just answer this one question for you real quick. The running back, and it's one of the reasons why a lot of rookies who come into the league

struggle with getting a lot of snaps on offense. Wait, wait. We have a lot of All ball responsibilities. No, let's jump past that. Let's forget about that. What other job does a quarterback has other than throwing the ball? They run the entire defense.

They're reading, they run the entire offense. They're reading defenses. They're multitasking. They're handing the ball off. It's not just, oh, throw the ball. You got to judge pockets. Is it collapsing? Do I scramble out of the pocket?

Do I, like, RPO, decision-making? It's more than throwing the ball. with this analogy. You can't be going anywhere good with this analogy. Mike, what I'm trying to say is you can minimize somebody's job because you're not doing it. But if that guy doesn't make those field goals, they're not the champs. And that goes for everybody. Wait, wait, wait.

I don't like 17 points. If he has a bad day, if he decides, you know what, I'm not focused today. They're not the champions. They don't go to Disney World. A couple weeks ago. Some jocles had bad days. And Cam was about that talking about, man, he's down to whip them in the ass.

It's the time of where I'm the kid. That's right. You all the hard work and then he'd come in and miss that kick and all that. You wanted to, you basically saying in Arabia, he was saying it, they ain't even real football players. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. That's basically what you were saying about, because, man.

You were throwing them out the game. I didn't not say that, Mike. And now. It's not true. to give him an MVP. That's not true, bro. We could go to the tape. My name Nick's got it.

I actually sit here and say the cities are dependent on nigger's foot. I said that subject. That's what I said. So how am I saying they're not real players? What I'm saying is cities are depending on a nigger foot. So let's think about this, right?

We could think of it, we could go back to week one or whatever. And I know the owner said he had another week. Now, now, does John Harbaugh, he makes his Super Bowl and win? Does he keep his job? Possibly. With Baltimore, we know he has another job,

but he actually got fired the day after somebody missed the field goal. So when May said it's 100% right, your guys are minimizing somebody's job because they're not doing 100 things according to Arabia, but you can't act like it's not an important part of the game. People get fired because of this, and people win championships because of it. Mace got on.

Yeah, and the guy lived in Jackson, in New York. So I got to go with it. Yeah, but I'm just saying regardless, I've sit there and say you do have a job to do. I've set that several occasions. You know, rest in peace, we talked about O.J.

I said they beat her kick her up one time because he missed a field goal in Baltimore and whatever, whatever. But you can't minimize a kicker's job like he has one job to do. Yeah, I get that. But it's a very important job. And sometimes other people, livelihood, is on the line. for that. I'm just asking the question. I understand y'all feel how you feel, but 17 points can be

just saying, well, that's what you were supposed to do, because it was what a lot of kickers were supposed to do. But I totally understand it. It was just a question. Anything else before we move on, gentlemen, ladies? I have a question. I'm still stuck on you asking Mace if he fly commercial. Do you take PJs everywhere that you go? Who me? Yes. No, absolutely not. I just know me and him have a conversation so you don't know. It's a little inside joke. Absolutely not. No, I do not fly private all the time.

For me, private has to be a special occasion or emergency. Then I'll go private. Or if we, you know, we feel like celebrating. I'm not at a private every time I fly a thing. I know that Mace has other income outside of what we do here. And he told me, Kim, this is going to give me the private. with other income. He had several different businesses

and one of his businesses that he was telling me is going to get him to fly in private. So, no, I mean, absolutely not. I was just wondering when he said he was on a plane with other people. It's kind of an inside joke. Let me ask you guys real quick.

Where do the Patriots go from here? I think they had an outstanding season. Young quarterback, Mike, we'll start with you. What are you looking for next year when it comes to the Patriots. Listen, I think Patriots, man, the season they had is incredible. You know, the only thing I'm thinking about going into this all season

of family Patriots right now is how is the psyche of my young quarterback. That team did way more than anybody, anybody gave them a chance to do this season. And then you should be thinking we're just going to build on this. you know, they're going to take another step with a young Drake Mey and start learning the game. The reason Seattle got the Drake Me, because he really didn't have a pre-snap game. You know, a Tom Brady would have taken that Seattle team

been passing that ball right down the field, getting it out of his hands too quickly for their defense to get to get to him. That's what Drake May is going to spend this offseason looking at. how can I get that game, that game where I got that pre-snap game, so when I run into these kinds of situations, I can make a difference. He still hadn't seen that one blitz, that they got to fumble, pick six on, you know, sacks, fumble, pick six, whatever, touchdown. They ran that same blitz four or five times and caused problems.

So he'll go work on those things. And hopefully, if Fisaki's right, he'll come back even better. But I think the patrons should be thrilled where they are and how fast they've jumped back into the main conversations. Real quick, Arabia, I want to ask Mike a question. With that being said, Mike, and you say Drake May, how Tom Brady would have done things differently.

With him being such a young quarterback, do you put total blame on him with Summerdowne the head coach and Josh McDaniels being the offensive coordinator? Yeah, well, the answer. Put them in the right situation. Right, right, right. And the job of Josh McDaniels is to try to give him some answers to the quiz.

You know, so when I say, yeah, it's problems picking up that same blitz. Yes, that certainly lays some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, so, you got to give them some answers for, for that test. And you didn't give them any answers, and he failed a test. But also, it's like Arabia said, too, that offensive line, dude, they couldn't do anything. Because those young guys, one time, they were just running by him. So it was hard on Drake May. You know, what I thought about was so interesting is how it has flipped. Sam Donald saw ghosts when they were playing the Patriots.

Now Drake May was seeing Ghost with Sam Donald on the other side. Right. Arabia. So first of all, the NFL salary cap is about a little over $300 million, which is up $20 million from last year and up $100 million from 2022. Last year, the Patriots had the most cap space in the NFL, about $50 million. This year, they're about 12th or 13th. I say all that to say, they have a lot of money to play with. And given where their baseline is, as far as where they're starting this offseason, things are promised. The first thing I'm doing, though, is shoring up that offensive line.

Those two rookies on the left, left tackle and left guard need some help in whether that's developing or getting some other guys looking at free agency, whatever it is. I'm shoring up that offensive line, not just for Drake May, but for the run game as well. So that's my mentality heading into the offseason is making sure we don't have a Joe Burrow situation where we have a really good quarterback, but we can't protect him. We can't provide opportunities for him. We're putting him in harm's way as far as injuring our franchise guys. so definitely need to shore up that offensive line.

Yeah, that's a really good take. I think when it comes to this Seattle Seahawks team, and them beating this Patriot team did something psychological to them, I think we discount, and I want to stay in that area of discount, like I said before, about discounting the kicker in that same vein of discounting, what it does to a team when they don't win it all. I think people automatically think about the progress that they made and how close they came to winning it.

But we very seldom see those teams come back the next year. Hardly ever do we see that. It didn't happen with the Baltimore team. It didn't happen with the 49ers. And even teams that have that kind of breakout success. And we're like, oh, this new quarterback, he's right there. Remember it happened with C.J. Stroud than the next year. Or your guy, Jaden, Jaden, it didn't happen the next year. Every time when this happens with a quarterback of that magnitude

that gets right there and they don't really get it done and we say, oh, they came so far, the very next year is always lower than the first year that they had that success. And I think that's something to really study. Why is that? I think it's something that happened with the spirit of the team, regardless of the personnel they bring in or the people that go out. It's something that happens when you don't get it done, when you make it all the way there and don't get it done. Yeah, Mace, I think it's really, I won't say dangerous, but the same way that we are expecting quarterbacks to develop so quickly in this microwave society and this instant

gratification society, we want quarterbacks to be drafted and produced now. I think with Mike McDonald being in his second year with the C or Hawks and winning a Super Bowl and Mike Vrable being in his first year with the Patriots and making it to the Super Bowl, I hope that we're not now wanting to microwave head coaches as well and wanting to see production from our head coaches really early instead of letting them develop. Like I don't want the expectation to be on the front end and to be like, okay, well, the Patriots made it to the Super Bowl and next year they need to make it again. Sometimes getting better isn't linear. Sometimes you have some up and downs, but the overall trend can be upwards. So I think it's okay if next year

they get a deep playoff run, but don't make it to the AOC championship. But overall, if they're trending upward and they get back over the next couple years, I think that's fine. But I just don't want this expectation on a young quarterback, a head coach in his first year with the team, to now be, this is the expectation. And just allowing them to figure things out organically. But these days, I don't know if that's the brand of football that's being played. Yeah, like what we said earlier in the show, like Keller said, who shows up to be fourth place? Who wants to be that?

If you're now already second place, who wants to come back next year and be third place? We've already was right there. I believe once you had a taste of success, it's hard to go backwards. You're a woman, you know this. Once you give a woman 20 foot sillings, you can't take her back to nine feet sillings. She's not going to want to move back in there. Let me ask you this. Real quick, being that you brought that up.

The Arabia, like, after you break out with a nigga, do you fuck with somebody lesser? This has nothing to do with. This has nothing to do with football. I'm just saying, like, if a nigga, if you believe in a nigga, like, you're dating a nigga who make $400,000, you'd be like, this nigga making $30,000.

One day he'll be there. I love him. Would you do that? Do you go backwards sometime if you like the nigga? I feel like the value that I attach to the men that I like have nothing to do with money. Like, I've met men who have a lot of money that are corny and think that just because they have money, they're something.

And I've met men who have no money, but they're really solid. So, I mean, the whole money thing I don't care about. Gotcha. I ain't going back with smart. I can't do it. More power to you, sister. I ain't got track. I believe that.

Sounds good. It sounds good. It sounds good. I don't know. Hey, boy, you're going to talk about Dutch. You're going to say, what's that? You got a 20 in your first? Right, right, right.

Right. Cam, so you, so, Pam, doesn't matter how much money a woman makes that you're dealing with? Like, do you care about her money? and how much money she makes? No, when I say backtrack, there's nothing to do financially with me. It's more about mental stability. If you can understand my lifestyle.

Mental stability. You can talk about mental stability. No, yo, word to mother. Yo, I swear everything I love, this is worth the mother, right? Some of the best ladies are crazy. No, you're right. No, this is what I'm saying.

Mental stability comes with financial stability. So, you know, they're tired all in them some kind of way. No, what I'm saying is Mace know me, so that's why he's calling Cap. But I was telling Zeke, I swear to God, Zika says worth everything I love. Y'all ever see coming to America? I don't know if Arabia has seen that movie before. You seen the movie? I've seen that movie, Mike, coming to America?

Yes, yes, of course. You know, I get the girls that come to me and hop on one friend and be like, I like what you like. And I'm like, what do you like? I just told my man the other day. I said, I'm tired of that. So it's hard to have a girl to have an opinion. Yeah, that's right.

But then that's another thing, murder, over-opinionated. You know what I'm saying? You could be over-opinionated, right? Let me give you another example, right? We're in the studio the other day. We're doing some music. My masseuse is in there. So I asked her one question about some music.

And then, you know, I'm in there with my own. artists we making music and everything. She said, matter of fact, y'all should put some drums in there right there. Nickers was like, hey, yeah, hold on that. You got to calm. The engineer was pissed off. He like, the EP was in there. Yeah, you got your masseuse in here. Yeah, yeah, PTA and he didn't. The engineer started looking at her like, yo, am I telling you how to massage, So the balance for me is wild. It ain't about money to answer the Arabian question, man.

Look, we'll be right back. We're going to go the break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the halftime show of the Super Bowl. It is what it is. We'll be right back. What's up, big dog? What's up, big dogs? Martin Luther King, Jr. will be alive today if Tuo was the shooter. Toa's passer rating can barely go

to the club and get a bottle. 24.1 passer rated against the brown. Marlon Humphrey is online saying that He wants to go on a glizzy tour. He wants to go to 50 states and try 50 glocks. It's going to be challenging for A.J. Brown. He typically stands outside the numbers a lot, and that's where PS2 thrives. C.D. Lamb said this is one of the best offenses he's been a part of.

And as much as I hate to say it, I can see why he says that. I just said all these positive things about the Cowboys. It must me want to throw up. So I know it's taboo to put your hands on your kids. I know. but I had to whip your son the other day. When I evaluate rookies, the best, the best thing I can always say about the ones that are doing the best,

they understand past protection. Pass Pro is where you see some rookie struggle. He's not doing that. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Welcome back, and it's time to get into our underdog picks of today. Tonight, the Denver Nuggets will be playing the Cleveland Cavaliers Mace. They have the Joker at 51.5 points. rebounds and assists.

You're going higher or lower? I'm going higher. I definitely think when it comes to Joker. It don't matter what number they put down for the Joker. I got to go higher. He's that kind of talent. Got you. They have James Harden at 21.5 points.

You're going to higher or lower? I think James Hardin should have more than 21. You know, being that he's new to the Cavaliers, I think it's important for him to get off to a great start and continue to do well. for this team to do well. Gotcha. And last, we got the Joker at 12.5 rebounds.

Are you going to higher or lower? Higher. There's nobody on Cleveland that's going to be able to stop him from doing whatever he wants to do, pause. So I got to go higher. Got it. Make sure you download the Underdog app

and make your picks. Okay, look, y'all, we're back. So a lot of people have mixed emotions when it came to the halftime show last night with Bad Bunny. I'd like to know you guys' opinion, you know, considering all the greats that we had throughout the years

performing at the halftime show. And as of late, Rock Nation has been handling the halftime show. You know, we've seen Dr. Dre there. We've seen Kendrick Lamar there last year on this year, Bad Bunny. Mike, we'll start with you. What did you think of last night's halftime show?

You know, when I looked at it, I thought this was interesting, and I'm funny with music, you know. Like I can listen to any genre. I can listen to any form of music. As long as I feel like it's not just something you're singing off a piece of paper that somebody wrote for you. If it's attached to your world, your life, you know, then I can feel it. I don't want to just hear it. I want to be able to feel it. And I don't know any words that he was sharing, but I saw in his performance.

I saw his life, he showed you his life. I thought he showed you all of his culture coming through. And I thought that was a great interesting thing to see. You know what I mean? I felt his performance. So I liked it from that standpoint. even though I didn't really understand, you know, the words, but I felt it. So I absolutely liked it.

Mike, where do you give this a ranking 1 to 10 on halftime performances being that you've seen a lot of halftime performances in your life? I can't, I can't. Mike, just get me at 1 to 10, Mike. Just sugarcoat. I can't. I can't. I can't rank it.

I wouldn't rank it. I wouldn't rank it. I wouldn't rank it up in there. of all, I didn't understand the word he was saying because I don't know the language. I don't know the language. You don't know what I mean? So how can I compare him and do some comparative analysis to a Michael Jackson or a prince when I know not even the words, you know, even though I felt.

You just scared for him. You scared your spanish niggas going to be on your ass. You say the wrong thing. That's all that's about. No, no. Yeah, the niggas who gave you the puncher and all that. I know what's going on. Mike, I diggis do a parade for you this.

They do a parade for you a couple of months ago, too. Mike, if you don't just say that. I rap, you say that. I don't want to do with you. You can't give me a one to ten. You're like, yo, you're one of the best women I've ever seen, Mike. How can you rank him? How can we rank him?

You're talking about, we talk about some of the greatest artists we've ever known. Michael Jackson, Prince, you know what I mean? Songs that we grew up on. I can't rank him and put him in there. So you said he ain't even make a ranking is what you're saying? Not up there. Not up there. So he's minus zero, you're saying.

So he's under zero. No, I didn't say that. That's what you said. I'm trying to say, what kind of ranking do you give him in a Super Bowl? You know, Mike, you're wild, man. He did good. When I first made some money, man, this was interesting too. And I started saying, you know, I'm going to get out of the country and I went to

got a pass, a passport and everything. And, you know, they were talking about this. They were talking about how many Americans don't have passports. You know what I mean? Because we think it's all about us. We don't want to go anywhere else or do anything. We think it's all about us. I thought it was interesting to be around and see some new culture, especially for those

for those of us that never go anywhere. Right. You know how crazy it is? It's that Mike went to how far back when he told him all Niggas couldn't get a passport. All because he liked the IENs, the Puerto Ricans, the Colombians, the Dominicanans. He like all that.

So he got to go back and tell the whole story about a passport and how Americans don't. All I asked you, bro, one through 10, what was it? And now we got to move on. Arabia. How did you feel about the person? performance last night. How did you rank it, man?

Okay, so first of all, just to be fair to Americans without passports, America is a huge country. So it's so much to see so many different climates and a lot of Europeans have passports because they're tiny little countries and you can't go from one to another without like visas

or passport. So just that's one thing. But anyway. You're doing the same thing, Arabia. You're doing the same thing that people talk about. We don't need to visit them little old people, them little old. Now you try to drag you went to Arabia. Look at that shit.

Nika always want a friend when they say the wrong thing. That's crazy. She didn't even finish a statement yet. God, Arabia, man. That's fucked up. Hey, yo, first of all, Arabia, real quick. Real quick, Arabia.

Tell them some shit in Spanish real quick. Curse them out. Real quick. Just real quick. The thing that wants to say, first, I want to say, hello, to all my Hispanic

to speak the music. I enjoyed the music. I think it was very good. I enjoy the music. The music is universal. Mike ain't even know. Mike ain't even know. I'm glad she went

talking that the other day. I'm glad she was talking at the day. He ain't even know you was trilingual. I ain't know that dog. Some comment would have been something if I'd heard that. You're right. Yeah. I really enjoyed the halftime performance.

I thought I love to see Cardi up there and Ricky Martin and just some of the special guests that he had. Just to have the culture represented on a big stage like that was great. If I were to rank it, I would rank it like a six, only because there are so many other historic Super Bowl performances, even just the timing of the Kendrick performance after that beef that he had with Drake, Beyonce, purple rain, raining while Prince was performing. It will rain.

Like, there are just so many other Beyonce, like, both times, really, when she was with Bruno Mars, then also when she did the Cowboy Carter thing. But I'll give it a six, and I know that might be low to some people, but I really did enjoy it. I thought it was great. I have fun. Even if you don't understand the words, like I said, music is universal and you can at least feel it. And, you know, I really enjoyed it.

I thought it was great. Arabia, you understood every song or all the words for every song? Yes. And one thing that I want to talk about with one of the first. his most popular song is Yoferre-Sola, which basically is supposed to be this woman's empowerment song, like I twerk alone and I do this thing alone. I don't club a lot, but when y'all do go to the club, I don't like that women only dancing with women or dancing by themselves. Like back in a day when we had basement parties and it was hot and sweating and dark, you would go to dance

with somebody, but now it seemed like women just want to dance with women and men just want to post up on the side with a drink and some diamonds. Like, what happened to dancing with each other? So this whole Yoferre-Sola, like I get it, like the overall message of it. But when we go to the club, let's get back to dancing. Like, it's just way more fun. Now everybody's too cool for school. We want to be in a section. I'm going to be honest with you real quick.

And I like that statement. And Mike, see, you didn't know Arabia was bilingual. She fucked you up with that. Real quick. She is. Yeah, you like that. Yeah, Mike. Real quick, I'm going to say this, right?

But to Arabia's last point because I want to Mesa's opinion as well. I never was a big dance. And you know, it's crazy with these basement parties that you talk about a hole in the walls and all of that. My niggas is in the building and Mace is here. Mace actually lived in this place on a 116. One of the place. I don't know.

And right downstairs, we used to go downstairs around the corner. It was a little. And Jamaican Joint right over the cab base. And it was one of these hole in the walls. And I wasn't a big dance. I couldn't dance. Mace could dance, and I couldn't dance. I ain't talking about like Mace was like one of these new niggas.

I'm talking about male dancing, like one of them. He knew how to, he knew how to two-step. But to Arabia's point, real quick before I get Mace to play, I'm sorry. I would be against the wall, the whole party, and just be looking until the Jamaican music came on or Uncle Luke, because all I had to do was hump on somebody for that kind of music. Yeah, or Jamaica, come on. I act like I know what I'm talking about.

like this. When I said, come on, I'm going to do it like this. Sorry. It's all that you care. I swear out. And then I went here, Uncle Luke, don't stop. Pop that pussy. Then all you got to do is this.

Tutu brim. Like, those are my son. You brought a flashback to me real quick when you said, oh, and the wall. Right there on the wall. Right there on this. from Mace House. We used to go. That was crazy, though.

What was crazy, Mace? Duda Brown and all that. Oh, well, play Uncle Luke. You were just looking for revenge because during the break, he said some wild shit, man. But okay. Okay. Far with me, Mace. What do you think of the halftime performance last night?

And where do you rank it? Mace. Okay, I'm going to go. What I'm saying? What I'm saying is this. You know we taping the whole time. I can still keep you at it. I know.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm trying to get my bad money take pause. I think with Bad Bunny, I think it would have been better if first shout out to the whole Latin community with so much going on with people in the border and what happened in Minnesota. This is some great.

point that we get to see Spanish people and join themselves in America. It is a free country. But when it comes to this particular selection, I think it was selected based upon the city they were going to be in and who they were

appealing to. But I think it's kind of controversial because when you think of the NFL, though they want fans, I'm not sure and this is just my take. I'm not sure if that's the fans that they they were going for, but I believe the people that were in charge that picked the talent just

made this pair. But it pales in comparison to all of the people that have gone before. To me, it looks like the NFL is getting worse each year in their performance. That's for me as a performer, thinking of a performance. If I had a budget to do a Super Bowl, you could do a greater show. I just think of that. Like you said, I had the privilege of seeing Purple Rain. I had the privilege of seeing Michael Jackson. And I'm just a person for excellence. So I think Chris Brown is way overdue. I don't know how everybody feel about Chris Brown personally, but Chris Brown is way overdue. So when I look at the Super Bowl, I think the person who should be performing is the person that nobody is better than. And I could think of several artists that.

could have done a better job. But shout out to Bad Bunny in the entire Latin community. I would give this a four. I would give it a four in performance. I don't want to 10. That's very interesting. Mike, you're saying something, Mike? Yeah, that's very interesting, you know.

And I didn't know you would tell it asking me to rank it one to ten. I thought you were asking me to rank it with the rest of those other performances. Now he got his courage up. That's how it normally is. I go wild and niggins get that courage. Go ahead, Mike. That's crazy, man. Go ahead, Mike.

I think it's interesting. The part I think is interesting that I just extrapolated from what Mace was talking about is that. Estrapalizing you put people on. Right? Okay, so Mace just said he thinks it's time for Chris Brown because he thinks that's the best performer right now

and he should have that stage. But I also heard in his dissertation where he said, okay, are they doing this for politics? Or, you know, where we at right now? You know what I'm saying? I didn't think about it that way. You know, what's all going on with everything that's going on in the country, you know, the politics of having that performer right there

over the best performer that we think right now is performing the best. So I just thought that was interesting. Yeah, if you've seen the Breezy Bowl, there's absolutely no way that Chris Brown is not the Super Bowl performer. That's what really the people want to see and Ben wanting to see. You want to see Chris Pauls fly across the arena and come down and perform the way he performs. I don't think there's one person right now that could perform better than Chris Brown. If you're giving him the Super Bowl state, there's not one other artists.

I don't care where you pull him from that will give a better performance than Chris Brown. That's kind of crazy. Arabia, you had something to say where you pull them from this round. Yeah, it's the juxtaposition, too, between Bad Bunny and then the next commercial was ICE. Like, they were showing ice commercials right after the Super Bowl performance. So, again, like, just the duality of both, like, that were happening over the span of, like, the span of, like, 10 minutes from Bad Bunny to ice commercials and was crazy.

But then also, like, I don't know if you guys think that artistry, like, Mace, you said that you feel like every year the Super Bowl is declining in the halftime show, but do you think that artistry is declining or at least changing or evolving to something else where like the singing and the dancing and their performance style isn't the same. Like anybody can sit in their room and record. I can record a song here, but I don't, I think artistry is just different. You can't compare prints to like Chris Brown is a great example because he's singing, he's dancing, he's an artist, he's rapping, he does graffiti, like he's an overall artist.

But there aren't too many of those right now. So I think artistry is different than it was before. Yeah, I think I think because of the people in control, they ran out real artists, right? So they ran out real artists. And now they're dealing with people that are famous for many other reasons other than their music, right? Music is the last thing that you actually getting lit from, right? You're turning up because you shot people or you're turning up people because you almost died or you is all these other reasons other than the talent.

So right now, you're not really watching the best artists. You're watching the, the, um, some of the, some of the people that the, how can you say it, the, what do they call them, the gatekeepers? You're not watching the best artists, but the most popular artists. Yeah. They're not even the most popular artists. They're just the ones who the gatekeepers have chosen to let through, right? So these are the people that come fly.

Real artists don't comply because they're in their brain, they're creatives. Like me, I'm not a complier. Cam is not a complier. But the people that are more in the front now, there are people behind the scenes that comply. A real artist, he has to do it the way he sees it. A real artist, she has to do it the way she sees it. She can't really, Rihanna is a real artist. Beyonce is a real artist.

You know, some people are just, they got the opportunity to make me. music because they could apply. Rabia, y'all done? Well, real quick. Yeah, what do you think, Cam? Now, I'm about to chime in real quick. First of all, just to add on real quick, Donald Trump, being that we're talking about the gatekeepers, the ice, the performance,

he says this is the worst performance ever. It's a slapping our face to our country. Nobody understands the word this guy is saying. And the dancing is disgusting. Damn. I'm not laughing it. I'm not laughing at. I'm not laughing at Bad Bunny or the Spanish community.

I'm supporting it. But this nigger Trump just don't give a fuck about nothing, bro. But you know the part that's really interesting because it's the flags, right? We understand growing up in New York. We saw the Puerto Rican flag everywhere, right? We see it once a year in the parade. So we're used to it, but to America, they're like,

well, why are they using another flag here? In New York, we used to it. Everybody we know is Puerto Rican or black, so it's a common thing. I didn't take anything from that. Yeah, he said he has a long tweet about the shows a slap in the face. country, we're sending new records. It's nothing inspirational about

this mess of a halftime show and watch. It'll get great reviews from fake media. He goes on and on and on. So you kind of hit the nail on the head about the politics, the timing, so on and so forth. That's not my lane. I have no comment whatsoever on any of it. But I will end saying this, that Chris Brown also

tweet it, it's safe to say, y'all need me. You were. It's really. Yeah. So, shout out to Bad Bunny. Shout out to Chris Brown. Shout out to the NFL for putting

halftime shows together. I thought actually that the Dr. Dre and Snoop performance with Eminem. I loved that a lot. Yeah, that was good. When it brought to West Coast. But even that, I had an issue with that performance and not just rain on nobody parade

because you didn't have game out there. How can you have it in Los Angeles, California, and you don't bring the game out? See, that's why they got me here. I just got to call it. I can't act like I didn't see that game didn't come out. So you got all these other people come out. You know, Snoop does the crypt walk. 50 came out.

All of that. I was, you know, really excited. I'm like, oh, game about to go crazy. Because this is backyard, right? It's like somebody having a Super Bowl and they make an arena in Harlem. And you bring everybody out and be like, yo, Mace ain't coming out or Cam ain't coming out. It's like, why did you have it in Harlem then? It just doesn't make sense.

You brought out raw bass. You bring out this person. That's how I felt on the 50 years of hip-hop. It's like, bro, so what are you saying? What we did ain't hip-hop? Nicar, you ain't invite me. Are you serious? This is our borough.

How are you going to bring out everybody else? It's not 50 years. You got to call it 48 years. or 47 years of hip hop because you're missing three. I disagree with you on that a little bit. I made a great point with it. It's just that,

first of all, games, my nigga. I fuck with games. Shout to game. I was on his last project. Shout to game. I was my nigga. I think it was Dr. Dre's Super Bowl halftime. It wasn't about LA's Super Bowl halftime.

It was everybody he produced for that was under his label. And I think him in game was on the same page. It's kind of like if you had the label, and somebody's still throwing shots at you. For instance, right, let's say we were still going through it. And we never got it. You got the halftime.

I'm bringing you out. I'm still going to bring me out. Okay. You know, you're a bigger person. You're a bigger person. I'm what you call it, though, you know. Because I believe that that's what makes a sensational show. Pause, when you bring out somebody, they know you don't fool.

That's when the crowd go crazy. It's like when I was in Philly, they didn't even know I was in Philly. I was watching the show and Beanie Siegel is performing and he brought Kiss out and it's like, wait a minute, that's crazy. You know, it's the last person you expect. It's like when Hope brought you out on the,

on the what you call it and y'all did Welcome to New York. It's a shot at me and I'm like, yo, that's crazy. Killing them got the tucks on. I'm calling niggas. You see this? This is crazy.

When I do that song now, I changed the lyrics around just so, you know. So you're, so you're, No, that's one of your best record. No, what I'm saying is, if you ever see me future performing it, I change the lyrics around. So don't be like kids to do it. Actually, me personally, because I'm a competitor, right?

So as a competitor, I don't take it that way. I'm like, yo, that was the line you supposed to say. Because I would have kicked you, you know? I get it. I'm just telling you for future reference, because I still perform that song at certain places. I switched to rip.

Yeah, that's fine. And I think that you hit the nail right on the head. And if I'm doing the show and I'm headlined and shit, this niggas just not coming on. I'm just telling you that, right? I'm just, I don't know. It won't be a surprise. I'm not shocking anybody.

You want to be. I'm not shy. I'm just telling you that you don't look for a surprise with me. Murder's business, a little more business to me. Mike, I hear you saying you want to say something? I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm disappointed in you Negroes.

I'm disappointed in both of you Negroes. Wow, Mike. Wow. You know what I mean? Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. It's okay. I'm going on over here now.

Now, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me right. Let me right. So, so, so, so, so, so you're going to say, okay, you, nobody understood what Bad Bunny was saying. So, but, but in your business, your business, your business, your business, music is universal. Not music is American, not music is nitter-in. Yeah. Not music is white end, but music is universal.

So, so, you know what I mean, that's, that's the play that you play. When I left the halftime show, hit it over towards the studio, I got in the car, and you know who was playing when I got in the car? It was my board cam playing. And you know what song was playing? Bronx Cucci. I said, oh, shit, Bronx Cucci. That's damn.

Oh, oh, so you expect your music to be universal? You expect these people. You understand what you're saying that Brunch Cucci? But you don't want to understand. understand what? Bad Bunny's saying. Okay, I'm disappointed in you, David.

Come on, man. Y'all stop that out right now, man. Don't stop playing right now. Music going to be universal. It should be universal. Cross the board. Not just when you drop in Brunks Coochard. Not with Bad Bunny dropping his music.

You see what I'm saying, man. I'm going to say this, Mike, and I always pronounce this wrong. I always get battered for pronounces of wrong. Different genres, Mike. This music is not. Not just one genre. That's why when you go to the awards, they say best rap album, best R&B album.

Yeah. That's right. It's charges. Best country. Yeah, exactly. Mike, just because you didn't want to rank it and Arabia Mace was brave enough to rank it. Don't try to come back on us now. No, with anything. Yeah.

Those are projected, Mike. Bronx Cucci on it. Yeah, when it's Prong Scucci comes up, man. I'm just saying, you want bad money people to be. be rocking the Bruns Coochie, why can't you rocked to his stuff? You see, that's all he said. That's all he said. Mike, if you look at this show, I didn't even

give a take. I just was reading tweets and what Chris Brown said, Arabia gave a take. And Mace gave a take, and I don't think either one of they take was bad, so don't blow me and Bronx Coochee because I'm the moderator. I didn't give a one through 10. I didn't say anything.

I just read what Donald Trump tweets said and with Chris Brown tweet said. You're trying to, you're not, you're so roused up with the IENs. You don't want to offend them. Now you're trying to get at me because you got in the car in Bronx. Gucci was playing and now I don't want to do anything. I'm just monitoring today, Mike.

That's it. I didn't even give an opinion. I told my driver, I said, turn that up. Turn that up. Turn that up. Now, thank you guys, man. Well, look, real quick, man. This is the last show of the football season for us. Mike Arabia.

We can't thank you guys. enough, you know, this is the second season with Mike Araby. I'm not sure if this second and Thursday. Whatever it is, I can't tell you guys how much you bring to this show. And I'm going to miss you guys every week. I'm going to bring you back when the draft and everything else comes around. But I just love you guys. And I know Macefield's the same way.

I'm sorry, Stack couldn't be here today. But the knowledge you bring to this show when it comes to football, that's what makes us smart from bringing you guys on who really know way more than we know when it comes to football. And I just want to tell you guys, thank you so much. And it's been a pleasure all season having you guys with us.

And I'm going to miss you guys on the show. I'm going to call you guys, but you're always welcome to come back whenever y'all want to come back, man. But I just want to tell you guys, thank you. And we really appreciate you. Thank you so much for having us. It was really a pleasure

working with you, Uncle Mike, and being on all season. But just to let the audience know, all 32 will still be posting once a week on the coming and talk to me network. Football never stop. So free agency, draft, combine, everything. I'm talking

all things football, 365. So once a week, all 32, but otherwise it is what it is. It's definitely been a pleasure. So thank you so much. Right. And real quick, Mike, also tell everybody about your new show on Netflix as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I do have a new show

on Netflix called the White House. I tell people all the time. I like everybody to come on. I got it camera makes you guys come on. So, you know, you can come on. on and share with us all your situations you know i want to know the situation you were coming out of or going in can when you wrote brunks coochie you know what i mean i want to know all of this stuff you know i felt that song you know i want to do a i ought to do a deep dive into that no problem you know what i'm saying all of that and seriousness and seriousness it's all it's all about trying to find

out really what's great in every man and we all got great things and we just got to share them and everything so but listen man let me tell you guys I love being on with you guys this is just a great unique way to blend uh you know our culture sports and and and we use sports as to jump off you know to crank the car but we talk life the whole drive and I appreciate you guys you know and your perspective on things and everything and how you are affecting the community. Everywhere I go, black, white, purple, green, yellow.

I'm telling you, people are tuned in. Keep doing what you're doing. I love you guys. And we love Stad also. Yeah, well, don't act like it's over. We see you next season, dude. Yeah, yeah, I'll be here. You know, I love you guys and thank you guys.

I know for me and murder. it is what it is. See you tomorrow.