IT IS WHAT IT IS - TOM BRADY ROAST WAS WILD & WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR MA$E & CAM'RON TO BE ON A ROAST | S4 EP12

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

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It's a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back But no confusion, it's a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Your murder here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches

Welcome ass, I bought jewelry And bikes, nigga, black Benz's And white Vigas, now I'm out here And I'm looking for more chandeliers And light fixtures, nah I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? I'm a high nigga, but this 44 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.

Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Ken. Killer, what's good, man? What's up, man? How you doing? You all right? Yeah, these games are crazy, man. Yeah, man. No, I go. We hit the next round, man. We hit the next round, man? What's up, man? How you doing? You all right? Yeah, these games are crazy, man. Yeah, man.

You know how it go. We hit the next round, man. We hit the next round, man. She getting tight, of course. Word. What do you think about what's going on? That's what we here to talk about, man. We about to talk about it right now.

Yeah, so let's start. Okay, so the Nuggets lost to the Timberwolves again in Game 2, but this time 106-80. Do you guys think the Timberwolves will sweep the Nuggets and then overall reaction to the game? Well, maybe I should ask you that, Steph. Maybe I should ask you and Cam, because I believe I said this yesterday. I said yesterday, I said,

once they come out and get this game, I want to know how everybody's going to look at this because I just saw the way they were playing defense on the Timberwolves, and it just looked like they didn't have no answers. And this looked like they grew in confidence like I expected them to. And if they do this at Denver, I can only imagine what I said will be true. I know nobody probably saw them going out 4-1, but that's what it's looking like, 4-1. They might get a game.

And, I mean, Ant-Man was looking like Jordan, like I said, right? So I want to be on record that I was the first one to say this. I know people out there said, don't make that comparison. But that's exactly what it looked like tonight. And that's exactly what it's going to look like tomorrow. And that's exactly what it's going to look like by the weekend. And when y'all catch up to the new experts, it's that I'm going to want my credit.

Credit will be given. credit for sure will be given we are keeping track okay and then Cam what do you think first of all Mace always wants credit I sound like a five year old give me my credit give me my credit who does that by the kindergarten give me my credit

pick the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns when the season started. That's what you picked. Me too. But Minnesota has been looking good. They look really good. Denver looks vulnerable.

Like May said, though, if this is going on in Denver, I can only imagine what's going to happen in Minnesota. And I haven't seen the Joker look this vulnerable in a long time.

These niggas' names shouldn't be the Timberwolves. It should be a pack of wolves. The way these niggas is playing defense on fucking the Nuggets, bro. I've not, yo. And you know how like you be trapping a nigga and then the ref don't call and they be looking at the ref like this? They put it in slow motion. Niggas is not touching you, Jamal Murray. Niggas is not touching you, Jamal Murray.

Niggas is not touching you, Michael Porter Jr. Y'all niggas is just getting swarmed by a pack of wolves and y'all look vulnerable. Joker, I think he had like six points in the first half, seven. Joker be usually having a triple-double by halftime. They look really, really vulnerable, man. And Mace might be right. This looks like a five-game series.

And I'm being nice saying that. At this point, I really don't know. The biggest takeaway I take from this game, also their bench looks good. The kid, Nas, they look really good. The biggest takeaway I take from this game, it isn't about the game, to be honest with you.

It's about... I don't care what y'all say, ladies or whoever. I know there's more ladies going to be mad at what I say than anything else. Rudy Gobert, I know you having a baby.

You can't be missing shit like this, bro. What the fuck you mean? Yo, yo, my nigga, I was highly upset at this shit, man. Now, your son is not going to remember you being there. I went through a situation like this. My son is actually here today, to be honest.

And I was shooting a movie Paid in Full Murder, and I was in the middle of shooting Paid in Full, and I couldn't get, I had to order a jet to get back to Jersey, and I was like six or seven hours late, missing my son be born. I was like, damn, I missed it by six,

seven hours. And my son's mother threw it in my face for years. You wasn't even there when your son was born. I was like, damn, I missed it by six, seven hours. And my son's mother threw it in my face for years. You wasn't even there when your son was born. You wasn't even there when your son was born. I'm like, if I could have been there, I would have been there. But I went to the hospital.

He's born. I chill for like eight hours. And I left to go finish the movie called classic. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you gotta, he don't even remember that. That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, it it's a special moment of course you want to be there but it's a championship on the line man and it's a championship your son gonna understand later on like my son right today he

understands the businessman that i am and he would understand if I missed him being born by eight or nine hours. He can't remember when he popped out like, yo, dad, you wasn't there. He don't remember. Rudy Gobert, I get it. I probably didn't know you were going to catch hell.

Y'all figured you was up 1-0. And I don't respect. If you was on my team, you're a murderer. If he's on your team, you're a murderer. If he was on your team, even though y'all

won by 20-something how you looking at Nick's next game I'm just asking you your opinion yeah I'm looking at it like we don't need them we won the biggest league

you know you start niggas start hitting you with the yo what's up hey niggas what's up I'm good my nigga

I don't know if you gonna be in next game yeah and not going to be in next game. Yeah. And not only not be in next game, I'm not saying that birth of your child is not a big deal, because it is. But I don't know what else you could be swayed out of

missing the game about. I don't know what could happen with you. This is championship shit on the line. We are playing the defending champs, and you're not in the lineup. I ain't jacking, of course, because you could have left after. Y'all niggas flying jets.

You know what I'm saying? After the game, get on the jet, go see what's going on, get back on the jet, and go back to Minnesota. First of all, the next game is at home. I ain't jacking it, bro. I'm not. So that was my biggest pick. And they did way better without you.

I'm not saying they don't need you. I'm not saying that whatsoever. But be careful. This is the shit that happens. How quarterbacks lose their job. Missing two, three, four, five games, and then next thing you know, yo, we figured something out where you should come off the bench.

And that way... Yeah, that should be the starter. And then that way we'll get your maximum potential. They start hitting you with all that type of shit. But I think Mace is right. I think this goes five. I don't know about a sweep.

I'm only giving Denver a game at this particular point because they're the defending champs. But I have to agree with Mace. I don't see this pass five, the way it's looking. I haven't seen a Joker that's vulnerable. We talked about it yesterday. I don't even motherfucking like the way Joker said that. When Joker said,

you might need to clone me or make two or three of me to beat these niggas, they say we got them. That's some mental shit right there. Yeah, that's your leader. That's the leader saying that. And when you see Ant-Man

hitting threes running back like this. Like joy. I said, oh yeah. Yo, Peter, niggas say, after game one, Joker go and sit there and say, yo, we might need two or three of me to beat, niggas say, after game one, Joker gonna sit there and say, yo, we might need two or three of me to beat these niggas. It's like, well, that ain't

happening. So, we already got him mentally. Mentally, man. So, that's my opinion on that. Okay, and then now, Jamal Murray could actually face severe punishment for throwing a heat pack on the floor during the game. Some people are calling for

him to be suspended game three. So what do you guys think about that? And then what could you actually see happening? I know they may not want to suspend them for throwing a heat pad on the floor, but that is very troublesome because, I mean, somebody could have slipped on it. Somebody could have fell on it, paused, all of that. You know, anything could have happened. Somebody could have really got hurt with that idea, especially because he's on the sideline. There's no reason for you to throw anything on the court, especially an item. Like, it's different if it was a water and he was waving to his team and something happened.

Oh. Yeah, it's different if somebody else threw something on the floor, but that's not what happened. If he was throwing water because he was trying to rule his team on, that's totally different. You throwing an item on the floor, that's no – I mean, you respect the game, but that doesn't show that. And he should be out. Yeah, I mean, you respect the game, but that doesn't show that. And he should be out.

Yeah, I'm looking at it. I don't know. I missed this first when this actually first happened. I'm actually looking at the shit right now like, bro, what the fuck are you doing, my nigga? What are you doing? I see. Yo, you threw that shit in three seconds while niggas was playing?

Yeah, like me. Nah, you violated. You violated, bro. Me could have twisted his ankle, broke his leg, anything. I thought y'all meant like it was about to be a timeout. You doing that during action? Yo, y'all niggas some crybabies, bro, because you just hit two game winners. It was all good just a week ago.

Shit was right or wrong. It was all good just a week ago. Now you wrong? It was all good just a week ago. Now you throwing ice packs because you can't do nothing about what's going on. Stop being crybabies. You know what I don't like, Neva Murder? It's that every time, every time these days, if a nigga don't get the call, not just this game. I see every player do it. They don't get the call.

They looking at the ref every play. Yo, stop crying, my nigga. Jalen Brunson had did that one game and at halftime, his dad said, yeah, one of those things where you don't use,

when your teeth still clean, you gotta shut the fuck up and stop crying. And he did. And the thing about, yo, Jamal Murray, I just watched that shit. That was uncalled for and that was unnecessary. Now I know. And the thing about, yo, Jamal Murray, I just watched that shit. That was uncalled for now. It was unnecessary now. I know it's the playoffs

and they don't want to lose an all-star, the second best player on the team, a key player. But I think that's cause for suspension. And I'm not one of them niggas

that like to give out suspensions. But you did that while niggas was in three seconds? While actual... I thought when y'all just said that shit, that like it was a timeout, he just threw it.

It was actual play going on, bro. Are you out your fucking mind? You're bugging, my nigga. When you hit all these game winners and all this shit last year, it was all good. I think it's called suspension, because now, let's say, for instance, right? Let's say, fuck it.

Let's say, fuck Minnesota. Let's say the Joker slip on it. Then what? Then you look like the biggest asshole in the world. Pause. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like Rudy Gobert when he was playing and passing COVID out. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, like you're bugging. Now this nigga ain't available. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I really don't like calling for suspension, especially during the playoffs. Especially during the playoffs. I really don't. But I suspension, especially during the playoffs, especially during the playoffs. I really don't. But I think that calls for a suspension because you not only can hurt somebody

from the other team, you can hurt somebody from your team. Look, the Minnesota Timberwolves coach is injured. He's in the second row from a play where they just ran into him by accident, a freak accident, pause like my nigga.

That was wild. I ain't jacking that. I ain't jacking that. Like, I don't really call for players to get suspended. But if it was something for a nigga to get suspended for, that was it right there. OK. And then Jokic had 16 points, 16 rebounds and eight assists. How do you guys feel about those numbers from him?

They're decent numbers for anybody else. Really decent. But for Joker, that's not enough for them to beat this caliber of team. This team is running on all cylinders. When you're playing a team that's getting great production from the perimeter pause and down low, it's going to be hard to beat that kind of team. And 16 and 16 is not going to be enough, especially when you got Murray under playing

and the rest of the team not playing as well. It's going to be impossible to beat them with those numbers. Yeah, I can't say it any better. If that was anybody else, that's spectacular. For the Joker, that's not it. I was referring to that earlier in the segment that he had less than 10 points in the first half. That's not Joker shit.

And I haven't seen him look this vulnerable in I don't know how long, man. Look, even last year when they played the Lakers, they won 4-1, but it wasn't like they got the Lakers out of here. It took two of them games with buzzer beaters from Jamal Murray. And I was saying that when I was looking at it,

I'm like, all right, they're the champs. They won the game. It don't matter if you win by 100 or you win by one, but it didn't look that dominant against the Lakers, to be totally honest with you. And now we're showing against Minnesota that maybe this isn't the team from last year.

Maybe it is a big deal that Bruce Brown isn't there. Maybe it is a big deal that Jeff Green is in Houston. Look, these were key players on that championship team. And I'm not saying that would make a difference today, but those were key factors in you winning that championship last year. And right now, your bench is looking light. Reggie Jackson isn't looking like the Reggie Jackson that we're used to seeing. And y'all really, really looked outnumbered. But as far as Joker's numbers, anybody else like me said, spectacular. It's a super achievement for Joker in the playoffs that we've been used to seeing.

a super underachievement for Joker in the playoffs that we've been used to seeing. Okay, now let's get into the next game. So the Pacers lost to the Knicks 121-117. So first, are there any key things that you're impressed by so far? Then how do you guys predict this series to go?

First of all, shout out to the Knicks and all the Knicks fans out there. I'm not going to say I'm a Knicks fan, but the Knicks are playing really well. This is as good as I've seen the Knicks play since the time they had, who was that, Anthony Mason, John Starks. This reminds me of that run. What about the Allen Houston run when they went to the chip, though?

They went to the chip. Yeah, they did. But this one is that flare. That flare that when Starks came alive and Starks was up there with Jordan. It was that hype. I got you. I just wanted to make sure where you was at. I dig it. No, that was good.

And when they had Mason, Oakley, Ewan, everybody on that team, that was good. And when they had Mason, Oakley, Ewan, everybody on that team, that was a great team. And it's a new energy in New York. I mean, when you start seeing all the stars come out, you see the old school stars, the new school stars, everybody coming out to the games, it just lets you know that Jalen Brunson, not just by himself, he got a great

supporting cast. Whoever those kids are from Villanova that are grown men now, they're doing their thing in New York. And I think that's like a dream come true to play with, Paul, somebody you play with on a lower level, on a higher level. So it's like everybody that's on this team, not everybody, but him, Josh Hart, and the other kid, they all played at Villanova. And to think that they're winning at this level just speaks

to the validity of what the coach did at Villanova. So I'm really excited for them. Yeah, absolutely. I'm really excited for them. Yeah, absolutely. And I have to be totally wrong. See, I like to admit when I'm wrong. Jalen Brunson, his 40-point wins have been winning.

He's been winning. Then the supporting cast, I said he wouldn't win when he gets 40. He's had 40 on several occasions after I said that. So I'm totally wrong about that. But the supporting cast from Villanova last night, I believe, let me take a look before I say the wrong thing.

25 from Josh Hart, Steven Chenzo, 25 points. It's dope when all three of y'all went to the same school. And OG, man, he's very, you know, the energy he brings, he's like a Draymond Green without punching niggas in the face

and kicking people and all that. He brings a really, really dope energy. And Thibodeau has figured out how to maneuver with these players. But I'm not being a Debbie Downer or anything like that. I'm just saying the truth. Because look, you know what it is, Murdo? Last year, the Knicks was here too. I'm not going to get hyped until next round. Now, if they go next round, Nick Power for now, you know what it is, Murdoch? Last year, the Knicks was here too. I'm not going to get hyped until next round.

Now, if they go next round, Nick Parfinelli all over the place. Well, I'm not getting hyped about this. This was here last year. The end of this game was, if I'm Rick Carlisle as the coach of the Indiana Pacers, I'm losing my motherfucking mind because the inexperience showed at the very end of this game. You see how the young squad, you see they made bad mental mistakes to where they could have actually won this game. They was up nine points in the fourth quarter.

You down one point. You're down one point with about 17 seconds to go, and you have the ball. You inbound the ball to Halliburton. That's another thing. Halliburton, you underachieved. Jalen Brunson bust your ass. It looked like the moment was too big for you.

It looked like you wasn't used to them guard lights. This ain't the end-season tournament, nigga. This the garden. This the mecca, nigga. And this the playoffs. Look like a dead headlights. But anyway, what I was going to say is when they inbound the ball with 17 seconds left and you're there on one point,

Halliburton gets the ball. I believe it was Turner, if I'm not mistaken. Goes to set a pick, and it's a legal screen. So now they call an offensive foul to where the Knicks get the ball back. And I'm like, bro, first of all, look, don't set no screen for me. I know how to dribble. I've never been one. I wave picks away.

When I ball, I don't need all that. I've never been a pick nigger, Paul. I never had a problem thinking a nigger is going to steal the ball from me when I was playing basketball, especially in that situation. You set a screen in the backcourt, so then you lose the ball with 17 seconds left, and now the Knicks get it back. Now the Knicks get it back. You commit a foul before they inbound it,

and the rule is now if you commit a foul before they inbound it, you get a free throw. So now the Knicks get a free free throw before they even inbound it. They make the free throw. Indiana goes up two points. free throw before they even inbound it. They make the free throw. Indiana goes up two points. Now the Knicks inbound it and they get fouled again. So they hit the two free throws. So you go from being down one point,

having the ball, to losing the ball, to committing a foul on an inbound play, to being down to two points, to have to commit a foul because time has run out, to being down four points. Those are all young mental mistakes. If I was Rick Carlisle, I would lose my mind, but that's part of the

game. That's why you play 48 minutes, and it is what it is. But this would be an interesting series. I thought it was a great game, and I'm looking forward to the next one, but I'm going to calm down, man. I digress. We're going to wait and see what happens, man. Yeah, all Rick Carlisle got to do is go in this locker room and say,

listen, y'all niggas is losing to Villanova. Y'all niggas professionals or not. Yeah, that's it. You're going to get a different response from them. Okay, so we got to talk about the stats and then the social media reactions right now. So Jalen Brunson became the first NBA player with 40 points, five assists in four straight playoff games and the fourth player to score 40 or more points in four consecutive postseason games. The first since Michael Jordan in the 1993 NBA finals. So of course, when you hear that, people are going crazy. Nick's fans are hype. Nick is shaking his head. Nick's fans are hype. Thoughts on the stat when you hear that?

Yeah. See, this is the way I got to get out the car. This is the way you get out the whip right here. When they start saying Jordan and all that. I got to get out this taxi. I see where this is going. This is probably going to jinx them while you're doing this, but

I don't know. It's a great accomplishment, but I'm not ready to stand there yet. I think it's a super-duper accomplishment, but when did the last summer happen? 1993. NBA finals. The finals, huh?

The finals. That makes a difference. Yeah. It do. These are our young niggas trying to go, folks. That's why you got to listen to the question. They come up with stats

and say, oh, such and such since Michael Jordan. Yeah, but that's why I like to repeat the question and say, oh, in the Finals. All right.

And I'm not, look, we got a long, look, they out ones that we got the finals. All right. And I'm not, look, we got a long, look, they out ones that we got a long way to go. And I don't want to say nothing wrong because I've been wrong about him scoring 40 and winning, but it's the finals. It's the finals, man. And it's Michael Jordan.

Let me ask you a question, Mace, real quick, because this is the next argument with Nick fans right here. And I'm not sure if I asked you this already on the show or not. But let's just ask again, just to be clear. Who are you taking, Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards? Anthony Edwards. No, the Knicks get mad at me because that's who I said. And they can't understand.

And what they said is, he ain't have 44 games in a row. Why would you pick him? So I was just wondering what you had to say. What did you say? I said Anthony Edwards, but the Knick fans attack me, my friends, because they get an attitude with me and say, well, he ain't have 44 games in a row like mike major and then this after i said bro let's let's just look at what's going on like you can't

even have a like a rational conversation where you're trying to like you're not trying to be rational everything is irrational so i just was wondering where you was at with that particular uh scenario if you're starting a team today who are you picking out of those two well why wouldn't is irrational. So, I just was wondering where you was at with that particular scenario. If you're starting a team today, who are you picking out of those two? But why wouldn't you pick,

why wouldn't you pick Jalen over Ant-Man? Size, poise, athleticism, defensive phallus, those three things,

height. And listen, to me, Jalen Brunson has been the best player on the East Coast the last three months. And arguably, maybe the best player, not saying the best player,

but playing the best basketball in the postseason outside of Ant-Man. But if I'm starting the team today, I'm going with 6'5". I'm going with athleticism. I'm going with the three-point today, I'm going with 6'5". I'm going with athleticism. I'm going with the three-point shot.

I'm going with top defense of the year. I'm not saying him by himself, but Minnesota's been the number one defense all year in the NBA. All that counts. He doesn't have game-winning shots only. He has game-winning block shots to where he stops the other team from scoring to save them to win um so if i had to pick i'm going with anthony edwards but i wouldn't be mad at jaylen brunson either i

just want to reuse that because i get attacked by balls by sin and the barbershop and everybody else in new york who's upset with that answer and and and what is what is um is Jalen Brunson listed? What is he listed? 6'1"? I want to check that before I make my next statement. 6'2". 6'2"? Yeah.

Yeah, it's been really kind of challenging for smaller guards to win championships. I know there's been a few that's been on teams, but mainly when somebody wins a championship, the guys are taller than 6'1", 6'2". Well, yeah, you know what's crazy? I believe I was watching the NBA show on ESPN. I'm not sure.

I think it was Becky Hammond, and she was going off saying that. It hasn't been done. Nobody 6'1", has ever won 6 6'1 or 6'2, whatever, has ever won a championship. It's not going to happen for Jalen Brunson. It happened for Allen Iverson. She said it didn't happen for somebody, Star Stockton,

whoever she started naming. But let me, the 1A. Tony Parker. Yeah. Well, he was saying the 1A player. Oh, yeah. The 1A player has never happened before.

Becky, you're bugging the fuck out. Isaiah Thomas did it. Niggas forgot about Zeke. Zeke did it. So let's not say it's never been a 1A player that's won a championship that's been under 6'2". So I know you guys are supposed to be the quote-unquote niggas

who know what y'all talking about. But dig a little deeper pause because it does happen with the main player being 6-1 with Isaiah Thomas. This is probably why Isaiah Thomas got beef. Isaiah Thomas got beef with everybody. Yeah, because he's like, if I was doing this as 6-1, pause.

Yeah, exactly. Isaiah told me and Mace last year when we was in Phoenix that nobody's better than him ever. Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, anybody. Isaiah Thomas. He said, if I was 6'6",

make me 6'6". Give me Pippen and all of these other names. Yeah, Magic Wadu. And he said, make me 6'9", and give me Kareem

after a Shabal. And you take Bill Lambert. And he says his road to the championship that he beat Michael Jordan, he beat Larry Bird, and he beat Magic Johnson

to win these championships. So, Isaiah, you know, a lot of time, Isaiah, because of what Jordan did in the 90s, what he did kind of gets overlooked because Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were these icons

that were beefing with each other and then not really beefing. The NBA made it set up to where the Lakers on the West Coast. They got a white collar, blue collar town with Boston where Larry Bird is from. So that was so iconic between a great white basketball player and a great basketball player.

Black basketball player to where during the 80s, that was kind of the matchup to make it East Coast versus West Coast, white against black. And they sold the NBA on that. But when those two started declining, Zeke won two championships back to back.

Then when Michael Jordan started to come do whatever he wanted to do, that kind of got swept under the rug with the Pistons between Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan. People tend to forget what the bad boys did with the Pistons. So shout out to Zeke. And then before we move on from the Knicks,

so apparently the Knicks are reportedly willing to offer almost anything to pair Devin Booker with Jalen Brunson. So is this a dynamic you would like to see? And is this what you think would gel? Or do you guys think it's not a good decision? I was, I'm not going to lie. I was hyped about this until Killer made his statement. And when he made his statement, it reminded me, if you're winning, you don't want to put somebody on your team that's not winning. I don't care how good you think they are. If they're

not showing tenacity towards winning, just can't add that on your team. I remember when the Bulls added Ron Harper and they ended up winning. But at first, I was very reluctant about that as well. Like, no, I don't know about this. But they were all 6'6", and 6'9", and 7 feet. So that would be different on this team. I think they got the points they need from the perimeter. I don't think you add somebody on the perimeter to this team that we're looking at

now. If you add anything to this team, you add a dominant four or a dominant five, but you do not add somebody on the wing and mess up the chemistry that they have right now. Regardless of how good you think those other Villanova players are, they are getting the job done. And when you got somebody, Paul, that's getting the job done, it just doesn't make sense to swap them out. Yeah, that was well put, Paul. I'm thinking to myself, it's too early.

It's too early. Let's see what happens. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, the Knicks just won a great series between the Sixers. That's New York, nigga. It's for you. Yeah. Then you just won your first game in the second round.

Calm the fuck down, yo. Let's see what happens. I was talking to Sen again, and I was telling him, I said, listen. The Eastern Conference Finals for the Knicks is one thing and the championship's another but this is

and I'm not saying a bunch of players but this may be Julius Randle's worst nightmare him going the Knicks going to the Eastern Conference Finals

and the Finals oh he's out he's out he's totally out I'm sorry Julius Randle but you are out you gonna be on the phone you can sell his house he's out. He's out. He's totally out. I'm sorry, Julius Randle,

but you are out. You can sell his house tonight. Exactly. So, I'm not saying they do that now because they still have a series to win, but Eastern Conference Finals, I'm going to start getting on the phone. I'm not saying Josh Harder,

Dave Vincenzo, or even OG because these are the dynamics that are getting you there. If I get to the Eastern Conference Finals, and let's just say they don't win or whatever, we don't know yet. I'm saying what's going to get us ahead of Boston? Is it Devin Booker?

I don't know if it's Devin Booker. And what am I giving up to get Devin Booker? I'm not sure, but I know one thing. This is Julius Rand, the worst nightmare for the Knicks to get to the next round. You can sit there and act like you're happy and act like you're cheering on, but this is how quarterbacks lose their job.

Chilling out for a minute or getting hurt for two minutes, and then the next thing you know, now we're going to start out to Alex Smith. we're going to start, I'll tell Alex Smith, we're going to start capping, because we had seen some,

but Drew, Drew Blitzo, Drew Blitzo never came back for us. Tom Brady went off to be the best quarterback ever. He went to Dallas, started to get hurt again. Tony Romo took his spot. And I know this is basketball,

and football, and there's apples and oranges, but when you take a seat because of injury or whatever the reason is, and niggas is doing it to this level to where the Knicks are winning like this, it's time to see what we can get back for you because we did this with you a couple years and we haven't got this far.

So that's why I say I'm not jumping the gun. The Knicks been here last year and it's about getting to the next round. But I don't think this is good for Julius Randle. As far as Devin Booker, does Devin Booker make the Knicks better getting rid of the people I've seen they're getting

rid of, that they talk about getting rid of, was Josh Hart, OG, and Julius Randle. I don't get rid of all of that for Devin Booker. As good as Devin Booker is. But you know, me and Mace was talking about it before the show came. I definitely wouldn't get rid of I don't get rid of all of that for Devin Booker. As good as Devin Booker is. But you know, me and Mace was talking about it before the show came. I definitely wouldn't get rid of

pause, get rid of Josh or OG. Right. So, me and Mace was talking about it before we actually came on live this morning. And we were saying,

we can imagine the shit Devin Booker talking about. Devin Booker did not get there with this new owner. He did not get there with this coach. He was not playing with Kevin Durant. He was not playing with Bradley Bill. And for some reason, it looked like it was a better team.

Without them niggas. Without them. So now you're like, I don't really know niggas like that. I don't know niggas like that. I mean, I'm basically in the stranger's house right now. I don't have any idea who none of these niggas is.

And he may be open to leaving. So, I don't know, man. If I'm the next, I got to wait and see what happens. And then, with all this uncertainty

and given these recent playoff eliminations which team do you guys believe was the biggest letdown in the playoffs um the biggest the biggest letdown is about to be um is about to be denver but the um before, I think the Clippers. To me, the Clippers definitely underachieved. I don't remember a team ever being stacked like that, pausing, going out in the first round. I don't think in history I ever seen a team with four all-stars. And maybe you guys can can look up one and let me know but i don't remember any team that had a um a triple a guy who led the league in triple doubles with another guy who with another guy who led the league in scoring multiple years with a finals mvp with um who else, with Paul George. I mean, with another guy that people are saying is a GOAT.

How do you have a GOAT, a two-time scoring champ, a finals MVP, and a guy who led the league in triple doubles two years, at least two years, and not get out of the first round with a coach that is stellar and supposed to be Hall of Fame as well, I mean, or at least a great one, a great basketball mind, a savant, as they would say, there's no way you're supposed to be out of the first round. It just makes no sense. And I'm not disagreeing with you.

I think that's a great answer. To me, it's just an opinionated. But to add on to what you said, two league MVPs. Yeah. To add on to the resume. Yeah, two league MVPs. Two league MVPs on the team. Because Kawhi wasn't there, I'm not mad at Mason.

You know my slogan, best ability is availability, so it's no excuse. But I'm going to say the Phoenix Suns, they didn't win a game. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're the biggest losers. Yeah, I'm going with the Phoenix Suns for biggest disappointment. At least the Clippers got a couple games. God damn.

Niggas didn't get a game. And look, we may be watching some wild shit because if Denver don't get a game, that's going to be wild. That's what I'm saying. You know how there was so many great niggas playing killer that we say they was just in the Michael Jordan era. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's true. Them niggas was dead nice.

They just. And you know what I was thinking about too? And we still got a lot of basketball left to watch. what I was thinking about too, and we still got a lot of basketball left to watch. Just, I know we talk about this changing of the guard shit

and everything else, but what happens is this, when the playoffs come, you get fans starting to get used to new niggas. You get fans getting used to Anthony Edwards. You get fans getting used

to Shea. You get fans already familiar with Kyrie and Luka, but you get fans used to Jalen. You're getting fans getting used to Shea. You're getting fans already familiar with Kyrie and Luka, but you're getting fans used to Jalen Brunson. And now, next year, if Steph

or Kevin Durant or LeBron don't make it, we're already kind of used to you not making it. And now you're going to look older and it's going to be like, yeah, you might need to back niggas up.

You feel me? Because now that's what you don't want to do. You don't want to get fans to not see you in the postseason because now they're comfortable with it. You know, when this shit first started, it was like, oh, man, Kevin Durant not playing, LeBron not playing, Steph Curry ain't making it. But like, all right, we're going to survive. We're going to be all right. The future is bright.

Yeah, exactly. The future is bright. The future is bright. Exactly. Without these niggas. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know if niggas want to say that. But I do want to add real quick, Murda. Let me say this because I know we're probably going to go to break after this. Yo, listen, man.

Yo, y'all niggas got to chill in LA. That's why I fuck with Mark Cuban. Shout out to Mark Cuban. Big, big shout out to Mark Cuban. Because as soon as all this circulation started with Jason Kidd, potentially going to LA, they just did a contract extension on Jason Kidd contract. Yesterday.

He just signed a two to three year extension. So they niggas like, let's just dead Jason Kidd out the whole Laker conversation now. Because y'all niggas is trying to lure niggas over there. Fuck out of here. Mark Cuban bust moves. He don't wait for niggas. He ain't got time.

He ain't got time for shit to linger. Jason Kidd ain't going nowhere. So now you're there too. JJ Redick. JJ Redick. And Ty Lue. And if I'm Steve Ballmer, I'm not letting Ty Lue go nowhere. I just got a new stadium.

I got all these niggas on the team, and Mace just named all they starts. We going to do another year to try and figure this out in our own stadium. I'm not letting nobody go. So now you're really probably left with J.J. Redick. And I see Michael Wilborn going off on Anthony Davis and LeBron James

saying how Anthony Davis had, pardon me, LeBron James had nine coaches in his career that's probably going to be his seventh coach and that he doesn't take accountability when it's losing. They didn't have the right players or they didn't have the right coach. It's a clip going around right now how Michael Jordan said we just wasn't good enough when he got eliminated. And Kobe Bryant saying, I have to be better.

This is why we get eliminated. Then they go to Braun. He's like, we had the right pieces and the coach and this, that, and the third and part of being a goat. And Braun know he my nigga with the whole crew. But even if that is the fact,

you got to say that you got to, I agree with that. You got to take accountability and say, I just wasn't better. And then when the cameras go off, just say that. I agree with that. You got to take accountability and say, I just wasn't better. And then when the cameras go off, just say, niggas wasn't shit. But when you say it publicly and project it publicly, it just looks like you're blaming shit on other people.

And that may be a fact. But when you're superstar status or potential best one, two, three players in the world, to me, that's the right thing to say. Yeah, when you're the gold nigga, it's up to you. The team go wherever I take them. You're the GOAT.

That's what it means to be the greatest of all time. If you're going to wear the crown, take the war. Kings have to go to war, man. Yeah, but I just wanted to give a shout out to Mark Cuban because he deaded all that shit quick we gotta get that petition going you said for mark jackson matter of fact it's already up

yeah go to the is what it is talk page uh we want mark jackson at least to get a meeting with the team if nothing else the petition is up already i believe we got close to six seven hundred signatures go to the is what it is Go to the It Is What It Is page. Hit the link in the bio if you want to see Mark Jackson potentially back in the NBA. We appreciate you. Yeah, and all you guys up at Golden State that benefited from Mark Jackson,

some of your fancy and favorite now, fan favorite players should post Mark as well. Yep. We have it. Okay, y'all, We're going to go to break and when we return, we will discuss... You see, I don't play. I'm Mark Cuban. If I say we're going to get a petition

done... I like that. It's already done. I don't got to get it going anymore. It's done, but that's the shit me and Mark Cuban do. That's what the bosses and the CEOs do. We have to bust moves.

Stop playing games and we make it happen. That's what happens, man. Shout out to Larry too. He helped me get it done, my nigga Larry, man. Okay, so when we return, we will discuss the roast of Tom Brady. Promise y'all it gets crazy. Don't go anywhere. Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option

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Then it's cool. Even when I'm right, this ain't about you. Welcome back. Now let's get into our Underdog Fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, Dallas will play OKC. Underdog Fantasy has Luka at 31 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher.

Yeah, higher. OK. Kyrie's at 34 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay. And SGA is at 40 points,

rebounds and assists. Do you have them higher or lower, Mace? 40 points. Rebounds and assists. This one I'm not sure about. What you think, Killer? I'm going to go with China and so on. I'm not sure about that one.

OKC been resting for a while. They've been chilling. And so far in the first round, it didn't take a lot of points for SGA for them to win that series. But SGA is a competitor. I'm really interested in this series because SGA, remember when he played against Steph Curry and he was like posting how he's busting Steph Curry ass and he killed him? He will not do that to Curry. I meant Irvin. That's not do that to Kyrie. I meant Irv, Irvin. Kyrie, that's what I was about to say.

This is going, like, Kyrie, the shit that Kyrie did the other day to P.J. Tucker was, P.J., my man, that shit was wild. Did you see that? Yo, why would you do that, Kyle? Come on, that was wild, dangerous to do that to a nigga too.

Yo, I thought that was your man. Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to say because I said Luka had higher, I'm going to say lower, but his points rebounds, and it says. Yeah. Lower.

I'm going to go higher because if he passes to Luka, I think Luka's going to have a good score tonight. So I'm going to go higher with all three. Okay. All right. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. So the roast of Tom Brady happened the other day where comedians could take a jab at roasting Tom

Brady. So it's got a lot of strong reactions because of the nature of the jokes, which surrounded, you know, rumors of him getting plastic surgery, his wife being with her trainer, and even Kim Kardashian went up to present an award and she got booed. So one of the jokes, we'll start with one of the jokes, came from Kevin Hart. He said, single life is what you deserve because you had no choice. Giselle gave you an ultimatum. Giselle said you retire or we're done. Well, let me tell you something. When you've got a chance to go eight and nine and all it will cost you is your wife and your kids, you got to do what the fuck you got to do.

And then he said, yeah, Tom, F them kids. So what do you think of just the joke that Kevin Hart had made? And then on top of that, that line right there, he said, yo, Tom, that's called real nigga shit. Yo, look, when you go to roast, it's nothing that's not on the line. So that's the chance you take when you go to roast.

It's Tom Brady, so people probably cringing. I watch, I love roasts. I love them. You care, bro, I would not have the strength to be roasted because everything's on the line. Everything's on the line. It's nothing that everything's on the line. Everything's on the line. It's nothing that's not on the line. Yo, Kevin Hart said Antonio,

he said, yo, Giselle's here tonight. She was Antonio Brown plus one. I said, yo, the Giselle jokes was wild. The niggas say, yo, the niggas say, yo, Brown plus one. Yo, murder. Nigga Kevin Hart said, yo, that's fucked up that you fucked your coach Bill Belichick and left him like that.

You know who else fucked their coach? Giselle. She fucked a karate nigga. He said, Tom, you ain't realize she was taking karate classes eight times a day and she's still a white belt. Yeah. Nigga said,

nigga said, nigga said, nigga said, nigga said, yo, you ain't pick up on that shit, my nigga? That shit, I listen, it's three hours.

I probably like 35 minutes and 40 minutes, but it was brutal. It was real brutal. So it's part of the nature. Look, I seen when they roasted Flavor Flav. And this girl, the girls at the Flavor Flav motor, she said,

yo, Flav, you look like what Magic Johnson's supposed to look like right now. He's ruthless, yo. Them roasts is ruthless yo yo don't bro since it's ruthless yo yo his P and shit is ruthless you got out

you got out of a strong strong heart for that shit B um Tom Brady listen man better man than me cause

I can't I can't really sit there man and let niggas do that that nigga Kevin Hart came out poor as brutal, bro. He said, when you first,

he said, when the Patriots picked you first, you went in Bill Belichick's office and said, this is the best decision of your life, man. And then you, then you asked Bill Belichick,

you need a massage? That was Jeff Ross, by the way. Oh, the Jeff Ross part. Me like, yo, bro. Yo, it was no straight. Jeff Ross the master of that shit. He's master of that shit.

So, yo, man. Tom Brady is brutal. I didn't even get to the whole shit. I'm going to watch the whole shit the next couple days. It's three hours. I can't watch it straight. But better nigga than me. That shit was kinda kinda hard

pause nigga told yo nigga told Jeff Ross said yo I ain't know if Kevin Hart was here

if Randy Morris was here just taking a knee yo that shit is brutal bro it was brutal bro it was fun to watch yeah I think he I think he really

I don't think he was ready Yeah, I think he really, I don't think he was ready for that. I think, you know, sometimes when you're going somewhere, you're like, oh, I'm going to my own roast by the time like 10 minutes into the room, the roast falls. He was like, yeah,

I made a mistake. This is going to be bad. Yeah, this is bad. Especially with the internet. I think there's been roads before, but we didn't have the internet. So it just seemed like the internet just extends the roads to a whole three more months. And not only that, like you said, that was a great way to put it. Like, I'm Tom.

They ain't going to go that far. Like you said, that was a great way to put it. Like, I'm Tom. They ain't going to go that far. Yo, bro, niggas should get sunglasses when they do that because you can see how uncomfortable niggas' faces are when they're hearing these jokes like, oh, I ain't know this nigga going to go there. You feel me?

Like, nah, niggas is super duper valet. And then Giseelle was there. Oh, she was super embarrassed. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So how you guys catch the strays, B? A lot of strays in that first 30 minutes that I watched.

So Tom Brady did take it well, but with the Jeff Ross joke, he he did go up and told him don't say that shit again so that clip is actually going viral because that's yeah when he said this shit about bill belichick he walked up and said don't say about robert kraft yeah pardon me i'm sorry about robert kraft and i was like yo when he said that i was like jeff ross laughed at him like oh you must not know where the fuck you at. All right, whatever. But yeah, I did see that part too. When niggas forget they play football. Yeah, yeah. So I have a couple more follow-up questions

regarding the roast. So one, what would it take for you to be the subject of a roast battle? Think about it for me, you want to know? It's nothing. It's no money, no nothing. My whole adult life been,

like, even when, like, battling niggas, like, even when me and Maze was talking about the Oracle the other day,

that was when we was talking about it. There's a lot of people who may not know how I came in for it. You know, it's crazy. People are like,

I never heard it. I'm going to listen to it now. I got you some streams, nigga. It's like, I never heard of it. going to listen to it now i got you some streams nigga it's like i never heard of it but more the story i was taking shots at mace before he made the oracle and it's like he's like yo i waited till you finished saying for shit to say or whatever which was genius but basically uh mace took a break for a minute from rapping, but my whole adult life has been televised just about. And I don't know niggas to be talking about niggas. So even if I go battle a nigga, I don't really know you, nigga.

You got mad for me from the time I've been 21 years old. The revolution was televised. You know everything. You can start talking about Dipset, my bitches, this, that, and the third and everything else. I can't even snap on y'all niggas. I don't know y'all niggas. You know what I'm saying? So I wouldn't do a roast because you could talk about me from the time I probably was before that, 16, 17 years old to my age now.

So I can't sit there and be subject to that because if I got random niggas talking about me and I don't got no info on them, I can't even snap back. There's no dollar amount that I can sit there and be honest with you. I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I think the same. Because when we was talking about the battle, I was like, yo, I had to let him go for years because he had a lot of information.

So I had to let him shoot himself. That was smart. Yeah. Put this up to you. He's like's like well he can't say this he just said that he said this and i wouldn't i would never do a rose i would never do a rose i can't do it and then the last question i gotta ask about it how do you guys feel about the whole thing being live who made up the roast anyway? It gotta be a white boy who made this up.

Well, Larry said, I don't know if he made it up, but that kid Jeff Ross is his shit now. But I don't know who actually made the first one up. Who gets fun out of that?

Like, hey, let's go and embarrass ourselves. I mean, listen, before Jeff Ross, I seen years ago when Ted Danson was dating Whoopie Goldberg and they came out with the blackface pause

yeah and all that shit and I was like yo is this funny but I was too young kind of to understand at that particular time you know that's when I was probably like 13 14 I'm like yo what's funny about this but um nah. I'm not sure. I can't do that, bro. I can't.

You probably would have to be, like, completely free of everything to do that. You know, the people that do that is, like, they're different people. Yeah, or they go there high. Or they need some money. I don't think Tom need no money, but certain people, it's probably a check.

Kevin Hart said that shit. He said, they paid me to be here, nigga. They paid me a lot of bread. But Mace knows this, man. Let me tell you something, man. I come from one of the... Roofless. Roofless, nigga.

And I forget the murders and the robberies and the crimes. The verbal abuse that goes on in my neighborhood. I've never seen that. Like, when I even leave, I'm like, yo, how do we talk to each other like this? Like, yo, my nigga. Yo, the verbal abuse in my neighborhood was at top level. I've never seen nothing like it, bro. A nigga had a Kalanasa, a shit bag.

And a nigga walked, he was arguing with a nigga, and somebody told the nigga, change that shit bag, you stink, nigga. The fuck out of here. And I'm like... Yeah, let me get away from this nigga before he drink bleach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like a nigga going he drank bleach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a nigga going through mental stuff. Somebody that we knew had drank some bleach because he was going through something. And then, you know, he came out of it. Niggas going to the store and big out there, you know, God bless the Denny's, like, I want something from the store.

This, this. I'm going to get you a bleach flavored Snapple. Tell us the nigga that. I'm like, get you a bleach-flavored Snapple. Tell us the nigga that. I'm like, bro. Yeah. Nigga is emotionally unstable. And this is what nigga is. And no, bro, I'm sitting there looking at her like, yo. I swear to God, I used to be like, I got to get the fuck out of here.

My brain. I'd play it out loud. I'm like, I got to get the fuck out of here. This brain. I play it out loud for like, I'm like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. This is some wild shit. And that nigga, like I said, even the shit bag shit, nigga talking,

shut up, I'll snatch your bag. Say something else, I'll snatch that shit, right? Yo, nigga told nigga, I'll snatch your shit, literally.

Yo, my nigga, it's ruthless, my nigga. So when you talk about roast this is publicly so it's a bigger stage but i've seen the worst of the worst uh right on in the neighborhood i grew up in okay and then on another note so wendy won rookie of the year averaging 21.4 points and 10.6 rebounds how do y'all feel about him winning the award, Maceverse? Well, I mean, well, we knew when we was going to win the Rookie of the Year.

We all knew that. That's no surprise. I would have been more surprised if they said Czech won it or it was a tie or they was going to share it. That probably pause would have been better. Do you think it would have hurt them if they would have let them share the award? What I'm going to say is this,

and this is a quote. Pause before I say it. Niggas sucking dick, I get it. Bo, bo. Bo, bo, boys. Bo, bo, boys. Bo Bo. Nigga sucking dick. I get it.

Congrats to him and B-Lo. We knew this shit was going to happen before the season started. Yeah, we knew this before he even lays his sneakers up. Right. Okay. And then Lonzo Ball picks up a $21.4 million player option with the Bulls after not playing for around two and a half years due to injury. Does this decision make sense to you? What do you guys think about him picking up that option?

Mace first. The only way this makes sense for me is if he start wearing the LeVar Ball sneakers again, man. Since he got his money, it would be great to see him reconnect with his dad business-wise. But I mean, basketball-wise, I don't know what they're expecting

in Chicago at this time. I think I've seen, what's the dude, Kobe White played very well. They got Zach Levine. It would be great to see Lonzo Ball in full healthy form pause again because

he was seeming to come into his own. But I wouldn't be surprised if he get traded and end up in Charlotte with his brother. That's what I'm ultimately looking forward to seeing. Yeah, it makes sense. Absolutely makes a thousand percent sense for Alonzo Ball why would you opt out you're not going to get paid you haven't played in two and a half years so if you opt out

what you think you're going to go renegotiate and get more than 20 million dollars and you haven't played basketball this is the absolutely smartest thing Alonzo Ball could do. Because let's say he opt out. Who's paying him $20 million and the kid hasn't played in two and a half years? So for Alonzo Ball, yes, this is very smart because now you're getting an extra $21 million and you didn't even play for two and a half years.

I know the Bulls is pissed off. I'd be pissed. I would have been praying he opt out. But why would you opt out and then you probably might not even get 10 million because nobody knows how good

you are or not. Well, I thought he was out for a year and a half. That's been too long. Saying he last played January 14, 2022. Damn.

Yeah. Well, there you have it. That's all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is what you want nigga everything nigga super size Outro Music