IT IS WHAT IT IS - TOM BRADY TALKING LIKE HE WASN'T PLAYING IN "THIS" NFL & THAT WARRIORS DYNASTY IS OVER | IIWII EP #51

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

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aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. What up, man? What's up, man? How you doing? You all right? Yeah. What's up? Lots going on. What's happening?

What's happening? In the world or with you? We're going to talk about it today. what's happening what's happening in the world or with you bro bro we're gonna talk about it today babies everything one of my young

drinks hit me this morning so she seen the show yesterday she was like kid we got mad riz I don't know how you ain't

know that I said I do don't I said I'm riz'd the fuck, I do, don't I? Said, I'm Riz the fuck out. I didn't even know I was Riz'd out like that. One little 26-year-old shit, man. Say,

you ain't know you got all that Riz. That Riz, I ain't even know. My nickname might be Riz next month. Yeah, the Riz- month Yeah the Riz-a The Riz-a

And everybody was Asking me about it So I'm happy that You know we Like y'all already knew What it was Cause people were like It means charisma

And I was like But nobody's gonna say You got good charisma But Yeah I didn't know Yeah that was a short For charisma

That's good And we definitely got that We're on with that Yeah Very charismatic Okay That was a shot for charisma. That's good. And we definitely got that. We're with that. Very charismatic. Okay. Well, we do have a lot to talk about. We're going to start with OKC.

Coincidentally, after OKC beat the Warriors 130 to 123, Shy posted a dump on Instagram with videos and pictures of him crossing Curry up. The caption said, I was feeling like E-40 in the Bay, so I had to go dumb. Do you think he was throwing shade at Curry and thoughts on their team? I told you, I told niggas, niggas, they won't listen to me. I said, for certain games, niggas get mad heightened

and step it up depending on who niggas is going to play. Shaq came, I don't know if you've seen his Instagram clips. Did you see the clips he posted? Nah, that's it. He put like five slides of just destroying Steph Curry.

Everything behind the back, shaking Steph Curry, blocking Steph Curry, shot. Son knows he did to Steph Curry. Like Stats said, nigga going to put up, nigga said, it's the Shea area.

He was going crazy. He thought I felt like E-40. Nigga said, it's not the Bay Area. It's the Shea area. And he threw it in they face. Like, this is mad disrespectful. Now, one thing that I will say is that that's kind of the wrong nigga to get disrespectful with is Steph Curry.

Yeah, for real. But if you feeling yourself and you feel like it's your turn, I dig it, man. I'm not mad at that at all. Like I told you, we had episodes where I said I miss, like, niggas talking shit and all the combativeness. It's too much kumbaya shit. I like that shit, bro, man.

That nigga said it's the Shea area. Felt like E-40, so he had to go dumb. And he saidumbaya shit. I like that shit, bro, man. That nigga said it's the Shea area. Felt like E-40, so he had to go dumb. And he said some more shit. I ain't got the quotes up here, but he was throwing mad shots. Then if you put it on the gram with five slides

or you just destroyed Steph Curry. Hey, man. Hey, keep it up, nigga. Keep it up, man. What I will say is this. I don't know if that's the right person to play them games with. Yeah. Yeah, because, yo, listen, man. That nigga will say is this. I don't know if that's the right person to play them games with. Yeah.

Yeah, because, yo, listen, man. That nigga have you on back of a milk cart. You be missing fucker with stuff covering my nigga. That nigga, if you play with him, that's one nigga if you play with, suffer the consequences if you don't have your shit together every time. Yeah, he definitely, I appreciate him for even daring to be great, you know? Exactly. He tried it.

We're just going to see where it goes. Who was Draymond and all this? I didn't get to see it, but I'm thinking, where was Draymond? I don't know, Draymond, I think Draymond suspended. Yeah, Draymond definitely didn't like that. What are you going to do, choke him out? It wasn't like it was a fight or nothing. He just was busting a nigga's ass, and then he put it on the gram.

But this might be karma. We always used to see Stephen Curry crossing out Chris Paul, got him on the twisters, paws, and the electric slide and all that. Steph Curry got his own mixtape just against Chris Paul. Yeah, so this might be the beginning of that. No, but what I'm saying is this. Steph Curry don't take the slides and put it on Instagram.

That's just niggas picking up the game and making their own shit. It ain't like Steph Curry do that and put it on the ground. Like, see what I did to Chris Paul last night? Yeah, this is my town. Niggas can't fuck with me. Yo, listen.

Fucking Shea? Yeah. Said, yeah, I'm putting it on my gram. I'm not waiting for SportsCenter. Yeah, that's a new generation. I'm not waiting for them. I'm going to put this out there, and y'all take it and add something to it. And not only that, he hit him with the Shea area, that means it's his town.

Listen. Where's Clay in all of this? Clay, where are you at in all of this? When you think about it, Stephen Curry shouldn't be guarding him anyway. That should be Clay. That's your matchup. You the one need the contract extension, right, Paul? That's what we're saying.

This year, they want to see how well he play. He's blowing that contract, Paul's extension. I totally agree. I think if he don't, he got to like about what? They might need Poole back. To be honest with you, Poole ain't doing that well in Washington either. They fucked the chemistry up. But like I said,

to be honest with you, that's a debate we have in the crib the other day is that Steph Curry never really guards the other point guard anyway.

Any team. Like, for him to be on Kyrie, like switch, switch, switch. Like, I don't blame him.

Nobody want them Kyrie problems. That's just a fucking headache trying to guard Kyrie. But, Steph always guards the't blame him. Nobody want them Kyrie problems. That's just a fucking headache trying to guard Kyrie. But Steph always guards the two guard anyway. So for him to be guarding the point guard, this is possibly why he hasn't been guarding point guards. But what I will say is this. Sha, you from Canada?

Seemed like you was from Little Harlem last night. Post that shit. If niggas don't, and look, you work, what I like to say is athletes work hard. So if they want to brag a little bit, it isn't like it's just

some fucking luck or some overnight success story. Look, they work hard so they should be able to talk shit and I like that. All I would say is just be careful

moving forward. That's my only advice to you. Tread lightly moving forward next time you play Golden State yo that sound like a nigga telling you to ditch somebody

but get security yeah listen get security yo that's a fact listen I don't know if you remember last year

when Golden State was playing the Sacramento Kings in the playoffs and after Sacramento won at home, they had this, they hit the button and the purple light went up.

You know what I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. I remember that. And Nick, no, Nick, see, I see Nick over there. So every win they did and they won three games, hit the purple light, shit going to air. So I went to game seven And Steph Curry went crazy Yeah

And like With like 25 30 seconds left When you knew They was going to win He's on the court Like pointing at the shit Where they hit the purple light

Like go hit it now Go hit it He's just Go ahead Go ahead It's alright niggas Don't play with that kid man That baby face assassin

Beware man Be I would be very Very careful But I do like it Yeah And I was going to say I do agree with both of y'all I think with that kid, man. That baby face assassin. Beware, man. I would be very, very careful, but I do like it. Yeah. And I was going to say, I do agree with both of y'all.

I think J can post that little stuff because, and I give him props because at least he can back it up. He's not just talking and looking stupid.

Like, no offense to the other players out here, but like, he's not, like, he's actually showing that he can perform

on the court. 25 top 10 players, so I'm not mad at it. I think we should see more of more of that like y'all said you wanted to see younger players do that and that's what he's doing so no what i'm saying when you say he's not just talking and not backing it up and not looking stupid like who like dylan brooks that's exactly like dylan brooks you say we gonna poke the bear and then he i'm gonna make him go left when Y'all got the money. Niggas like Dylan Brooks who say, we gonna poke the bear and then I'm gonna make him go left when a nigga have 12, 13 points left-handed.

I know what you be saying without saying it. I already know what you mean. I'm just decoding it for the rest of the audience. I'm decoding it. All right, I got you. Moving along to football real quick. In an interview, Tom Brady says, I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL.

I don't see the excellence I saw in the past. He also explains that coaching and development just isn't as good as it was. So how do you feel about him sharing his thoughts on this? Tom, if you want to come back, just come back. Like, yo, cut this, yo. You homeboy. It ain't even been a year yet. I really see Tom Brady trying to do some dumb shit in about a year and a half and try to come back.

Tom ain't been out the league a whole year now. What's the exact quote, Snack? He said, I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL. I don't see the excellence I saw in the past. of mediocrity in today's NFL. I don't see the excellence I saw in the past. When he says today's NFL, Tom, you ain't, you was this time last year, you was playing.

I can see if you've been out for like four or five years and you like, yo, today's NFL, this isn't the day. You was playing this time last year and you was playing, Tom. You was playing.

Look, Tom Brady's my favorite football player all time. I think he's the best quarterback ever. You know, that's debatable with certain people. Tom, I don't want to do this because I fucking like Tom, man. You let your shorty run you out the NFL, bro. She crept off with the soccer player.

You started panicking. She's been trying to tell you to retire for years. You finally folded. Now you at home don't know what to do with yourself. So you watch fucking football every week. And now you should be like, this ain't the NFL. I was a part of it. You was a part of it like nine months ago, bro.

Nine, ten months ago. What I would say is this. I didn't think that you should have retired. I thought that you had a lot of football left in you. Pause. But what I will say is this. Don't try to come back now. Because when you take this long off, this is when you get hit and it's going to fuck you up bad.

If you stayed with the momentum and stayed in the NFL, I think it was cool. But this is the type of shit where niggas is bored and they start thinking about doing dumb shit. Yo, meet me in the backyard. Go for 40. Y'all still got it, right me in the backyard. Go for 40. Y'all still got it, right? Nah, Tom, if you didn't take off, I would've went with it. But you can't take off if a nigga hits you, bro.

You can't run, so I guess you probably might not really get hit. But if you get sacked the wrong way and all that, it's gonna be fucked up. Stop letting these females control your life when you done something that you love. Now, I know you have to make a choice because she loves you too.

The thing was, she didn't want to see you get old and get hurt and get fucked up. Made the decision to leave, and the fucked up part about it is murder. You took too long. She didn't even go back. What type of shit without creeping in with a soccer player? So he retired and she didn't come back to him

if she did it's not public last thing we know they got a divorce now you gotta visit your kids that's why you do what you wanna do

that's exactly what I'm saying that's exactly what I'm talking about you can't compromise greatness yeah now not only that

listen listen man not for love not for that, listen. Listen, man. Not for love. Yo, listen, when you, Giselle got to understand. I don't know if you know I'm the best football player ever when you go. I don't want you to play anymore. I don't think this is right.

Yo, I'm not just, like, do you know I'm not a random football player? Like, I'm some big time nigga, yo. Yeah, even if I stop, I'm not going to, like, Denny's tomorrow. Yeah, this is what I'm trying to, yo, I'm Tom Brady. But see, the thing about it as well is that we ain't going to act like she ain't wasn't getting no money neither. She ain't, it ain't like she's just one of these random pickup Instagram females. She was getting a lot of money as a model, too. So she like, yo, we got a lot of paper. There's one time.

Did she stop modeling? Yeah, she been stopped a while ago. She wanted basically, she stopped modeling. She wanted him to stop playing football, buy a minivan, and live in a cottage in Wyoming. What the fuck? That's not going to happen, man. Listen.

But just think about that pause the other way around. If she had a lot of work going on, but he had stopped, and now she's like, well, my thing is still going. He want me to downsize. Isn't that what a woman would say, Stat? If she still got something going, but he doesn't at that time and he's no longer playing football what would what would the lady say about that i mean that's situational though because even if he stops playing he's still tom brady i know but when she tell him to get

something to do because i got stuff going on i got places to be he doesn't have to though because regardless he's going to get work like i see what you're trying to say but in his situation that wouldn't be the case because he's Tom Brady. But isn't that what most women would say? He wants me to stop my dreams and he wants me to stop going for my

um... Alright, let's put yourself in that situation. If you got a boyfriend who's mad rich right now, you bumped into him and he's like a cotillionaire from Saudi Arabia and you like him. He's like, yo,

I don't want you being a journalist no more. They don't got to do that. That little bit of money you making, I make a billion. They know niggas like that. They get paid by the second. The salt in the Brunei and all the niggas, they make like 2 million a minute.

If you end up getting a boyfriend like that and he says, look, I'm going to take care of you. You don't need to be a journalist anymore. Are you with that?

No. That's what Macy's trying to say. But that's because like, that's my passion. I get what you're saying too. That's not what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm saying.

But you're saying most women would say what I say or they wouldn't? They would. Okay. I wouldn't agree with that. But sometimes... Because I disagree saying. But you're saying most women would say what I say or they wouldn't? They would. Okay. I wouldn't agree with that. Because I disagree too. I think I'm a different case.

Not only that, it depends on who it is. You got Oprah Winfrey. You got Polly Anthony. You got a bunch of females who'd be like, good luck. Go do your thing. Because they on a mission. It depends on who it is though. Certain females is animals.

Mona Scott. You know, It depends on who it is, though. Certain females is animals, Mona Scott. You know, it depends on who you is. The majority of females who don't have anything going on, that's what murder's saying. But then you got to remember, it's women who's monsters, too. Like, yo, my nigga, I'm making $28 million every quarter. I'm not going to stop doing this.

What's the nigga? You know, it got so bad. What's the homie's name? I just know him as stop doing this. What's the nigga? You know, it got so bad. What's the homie name? I just know him as Oprah Husband. See, what else he do besides be Oprah Husband? Okay. Yeah, but you know him because he Oprah Husband. You don't know him because he Stedman.

I mean, you don't know him for owning construction. You wouldn't know that if he's Oprah Husband. Yeah, and when shit got funky, she built him a little house on the land and said, go back there. Exactly. Yeah. And when shit got funky, she built him a little house on the land and said, go back there. Exactly. Yeah, but the whole shit is like, my nigga, you know that nigga name

from just being Oprah's boyfriend. That's Stedman. Stedman-ass niggas out there. It depends. So, I see both of you guys' points. Stedman played his role mm-hmm

yeah yeah shut up you're paid some people are okay with that absolutely it's listen it's guys who it's guys who deal with

it's listen it's 25 year olds that deal with 56 57 year old females because they need a PlayStation. Or they need a place to stay. You got to sometimes, you got to take one for the team, so to speak,

to get what you need. Listen, man, I'll be honest with you, man. I'll tell you straight up. When I got out of college, I didn't want to go back home and look. And I asked you too, Stack, because you just got out of college. Yo, when you get out of college, and I didn't even graduate college. I just did a semester and a half. When you leave school, when you leave home,

you're like living in your parents' house and all that. So you're used to being under your parents' umbrella. So then when you go back home, like I went home after my first semester and then I was staying with my grandmother. My grandmother was like, hey, what time you coming in? I'm like, don't ask me what time I'm coming in.

I've been living on my own now. I'm grown. I ain't got to be answering what time I got to come in. So I was saying that to say this, like, yo, what do you think when you leave the nest? How is it like being on your own from and trying to answer from their parents or whatever? Right. It's I mean, I'm really like I communicate a lot, but like it's definitely a different type of situation because I could just go do my own thing. But also my parents are mad cool. Shout out. My parents are actually here in the studio.

Yeah, they're super cool. We communicate a lot. thing but also my parents are mad cool shout out my parents are actually here in the studio like i tell them what's up so it's like communication but some people just up and disappear if i'm going out or i'm going somewhere i let them know that's what's good so i'm gonna i feel like a rare situation that not everybody else is in. I know you married, Mace. You ever been a side nigga? I think. I think. That was my old profession. Coming up. It's a good role.

It's a good role. I'm not mad at the side nigga. Not a lot of obligation. Yeah. Yeah, I've been a side nigga. Side nigga Sundays Definitely Okay new thing Let's move along to Kevin Durant's tweet

He tweeted When I get paid Well when you get paid You don't DM me and send a small percentage to my cash app But when them parlays don't hit I'm every name in the book Y'all ain't real Thoughts on his tweet.

It sounds like extortion on the behalf of KD. Nah, KD, my nigga. KD said, yo, send a little bit to his cash app. KD, all that money you making, you want to tell him to send a percentage of your cash out? That is crazy. Yo, because you know what it is? This same shit we was talking about when you're a public figure.

This the shit Duke be mad at. Duke be in the house every day. Duke bet, I ain't going to tell you, Duke bet $6 and be trying to hit a 10-team parlay for $103. And if it don't go right, if it don't go right, he has an attitude with people. So you got to imagine how many people are hitting Kevin Durant like, yo, you fucked my ticket up last night.

You fucked up my shit. But Kevin Durant is like, when shit winning, you ain't sending me that in my way. So I understand what Kevin, I don't know what tweets or Instagrams or DMs he got or messages he gets, but I think it's just know by Duke running around pouting in the house.

Oh, pardon me, I don't like the word pouting. You say pouting through a whole tantrum. Mad in the house or whatever because he didn't win a 19-game parlay. It's just fucking crazy, my nigga. Shit is wild. Good luck you got to have. Yeah, Joker got kicked out the game

the night before last. He run around like niggas fucking the whole NBA fucked up the whole everybody's ticket last night. Them niggas knew what they was doing. Duke, they knew you had a bet in it. Like, yo, this nigga be really mad. So I can imagine the messages that Kevin Durant gets

when somebody's ticket doesn't go right. Look, they made gambling, it was a time when you had to go to the casino, go play some bet. They put that shit on your phone. Shout out to Underdog Fantasy, available in 30 states. Make sure you download the app if you can,

if you're in one of the particular states that have it. Listen, they made it easy on your phone. And then on top of that, you don't really even have to understand sports sometimes to gamble. So, you know, I got a homegirl who makes parlay bets solely off of team colors. No, I'm going with the purple team.

I said, yo, why'd you pick them? They're not going in. Nah, they out on green. What? Yo, that's what I'm telling you. You could gamble off anything now and not really have the knowledge and still win. Yeah, they got to let the

players play and let the bettors bet wisely. Because going in people's DMs is crazy. Especially to athletes because then it gets into that area of Pete Rose. You know what I'm saying?

Telling somebody what the bed and all of that. Look, we had that combo too at the crib. Duke thinks that certain niggas, let's say this is good. I might do this over a skit or put it in one of the movies

or something that I'm doing, but it's really good because let's just use Kevin Durant as an example, and I'm his cousin. Did you give me seven rebounds tonight? Exactly. Yo, so you can't give me, I don't ask you for nothing.

You don't got to give me no money. You don't got to give me nothing for Christmas. I'm asking you for seven rebounds and we good. So how does that work? Yeah, that's what I say. It's sneaky pause. Get into that Pete Rose feel. Because you can also on the flip side say,

don't get more than five rebounds whatever the whatever the yeah whatever the situation is absolutely right yo it's my birthday friday yeah you know i'm trying to take your arm out i need you not to get more than five rebounds absolutely a hundred percent i better than a thousand dollars yeah exactly but you don't even tell me. Don't ask why. Don't ask why I don't need you to get more. The less you know, the better. So, yo, I'm telling you right now, I'm going to be totally honest with you. If I was young and I didn't have that much money or I had enough money to survive

and my cousin was a super duper star I'm gonna harass I'm definitely gonna harass yo I ain't speaking like a Christmas or nothing if you can't do me this favor cause now my convo is like this I don't I don't really ask you for nothing bro I don't harass you I don't call

you I see you on the holidays that's exactly what the nigga with the parlay was saying, probably. No, I'm the nigga with the parlay. That's what I'm saying. Are you Kevin Durant? I'm the nigga with your little cousin at Christmas. I don't ask you for a lot, bro. All I'm saying is don't get far.

And you act like I'm asking you to go kill somebody. You act like I'm asking you to stick up a bank. All I ask you is not to get five rebounds. And so I don't have to ask you for money. I'm trying to make a living on my own. Then the nigga be under investigation. Yeah, nigga. Nigga made $790,000

because Kevin Durant didn't get five rebounds. So when you said Pete Rose, it reminded me of the conversation we had the other night in the house. Because Duke said the niggas should be able to ask their cousins and brothers or whoever else

that's on the team to cheat for them so they can make their own money. Well, moving along to a player who's not helping anybody's parlay, Zach Wilson. The Jets have decided to bench him,

putting backup quarterback Tim Boyle in ahead of the Miami game. How do you feel about the Jets making that decision? Oh, we're talking about the Jets again. I mean, I'm actually glad they're doing this. I'm actually glad. I remember

when they picked him them i knew he wasn't a good pick for that team um also looking back now they're talking about not just not starting him but not even allowing him to be the backup that the jets plan is to make him the third option and i like the fact that they gave him a chance to see what he could do. They allowed him to start. I mean, but when you're throwing more interceptions than completions, it's going to be, I mean, than touchdowns, it's going to be hard to keep you on the field.

I don't know how else you can explain that. He got more interceptions than touchdowns. That's horrible. That's horrible. Like O.J. would say, game management. He's not managing the game. He's just out there. He knew somebody.

Somebody gave him a check. They thought because he played up there at BYU that he would be a great sensation. But you got to start looking at the, what they call it, the conference that you're playing in. A lot of studs don't come out of BYU as the quarterback. So they should have known better than that. They're in New Jersey. It's not like they're in Arkansas. They should have. their due diligence.

But this is without me even looking down, you know, because I know football for drum and the people out there drum. I'm going to give you one more day. It gets your stuff together, nigga. Killer is on you. You want to give one more day to me? Drum. Oh, he ain't send no message today. Yeah, yeah, okay. He ain't text me today. You. Who you going to give one more day to? Drum. Oh.

He ain't send no message today. Yeah, yeah, okay. He ain't text me today. Yeah, it was quiet today. Duh, he's going to get benched. Yeah. Duh, like my nigga. He's stinking it out.

Nigga, I know. Niggas, and listen, it was fall-fetched, and it was just niggas talking. But niggas was just Aaron Rodgers is giving niggas false hope out there on the field, throwing passes. You know, I know diehard Jet fans, they talk about, oh, if he get us to week 13, all we need him is to get us to week 13. And Tino was out there on the bandwagon. So, am I coming back? Yeah, if all we need is Zach to get us to week 13,

and Aaron is coming back. I said, all right, bro. I hear you, my nigga. If Aaron Rodgers come back this year, there wasn't no Achilles, my nigga. I don't know what it was, but he said, no, no, no. He's going to come back. I'm telling you.

Nigga's fucked up now. Nigga talking about, yo about yo Aaron after the Lord Sunday now all of a sudden Aaron Rodgers is definitely not coming back yeah he definitely should this season and

I asked Tito cause like I said he's a Jetfare he said no no no Zach's not gonna come back this year and I mean we bent Zach

and and Aaron's gonna wait till next year but you know it's just 2024. I said, yo, what they running for the election? The fuck is you talking about, man? This is New York and it's fine.

It's always, we going to be better next year. Every year is the same thing, Bob. Every year. Something happened, niggas is hyped up. Niggas don't make it to Christmas. This year, niggas ain't making it to Thanksgiving. They already talking about 2024. Yeah, NY stands for next year.

Look at Tito. Look at the next year, Jeff. Look at Tito. It's a real jet fit. That's what the Jets did to him. Oh, he's going to be tight. He's going to be tight. Yeah, that nigga going to sleep till 2024.

That nigga said. Yo. He said, nah, I can't. Don't worry about it. Jets 2024. Yo, that nigga is foul for that. That's crazy. He's a New Yorker, for real.

But what I'll say is just back to the original question. Look, I feel sorry for Zach Wilson because, to be totally honest with you, he's the reason they kind of went out and got Aaron Rodgers and they wanted him to sit behind Aaron Rodgers this year and learn. And unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers got hurt the first three, four minutes of the Jets' season. And Zach Wilson got thrown back into the fire. He was in the previous season, the reason they went to get Aaron Rodgers

in the first place. So he was like, he like, fuck. I'm supposed to hear learn from the OG. This ain't supposed to teach me things, calm me down. Look, when they was on hard knocks, it looked like it was all fun and games. It was going to be great. So that Achilles. So I'm sorry, Zach.

They threw you in the fucked up position. You wasn't even supposed to be in this place, in this position in the first place. But it's football. Any given Sunday, you got to be ready. Next man up. That's just the way it goes. And when Mace was talking about Russell Westbrook

possibly shortening his career because of coming off the bench. This looks, this is fucking your career. This is, this is fucked up for you, bro. This is,

this is bad for you, bro. Look, I feel bad because nobody gonna trust you after this shit, man. You're gonna be a third stringer

wherever you go if you don't stay with the Jets, bro. This fucked you up bad and you wasn't even supposed to be a third stringer wherever you go if you don't stay with the Jets, bro. This fucked you up bad. And you wasn't even supposed to be in this situation. Love you, bro. They said they were 11 and 20 under him being the quarterback. That's crazy.

Man, I know coaches with worse winning percentages, to be totally honest with you. Jets got a good defense, man. That nigga's supposed to, like I said, he's supposed to be a student with you. Just got a good defense, man. A nigga's supposed to, like I said, he's supposed to be a student this year. It just didn't work out. Well, I feel bad, so all I can say is good luck because I don't really know what's going to be next, and that's, you know, all I got.

On Monday, the Warriors entered their six-game losing streak, beating the Rockets 121-116. Although they won, do you believe the Warriors' dynasty is over? Now, that was my team before this. Who's your team now? Who's your team? Before this. Who's your team?

Who's your team, bro? In the NBA, who is your team? Dembo. In the NBA, who is your team? Denver. Hey, I went out to Denver. I had a good time. You know, they invited me back. You remember I invited you to come to a game No I don't remember You don't remember You did

I did Yeah you did I got peoples out there Like Milwaukee Who's in Denver Who's there I can't tell off my connections Stick your head bro

You're a wild boy man Denver's your team I heard you Denver you know I can't tell off my connections. Stick your head, bro. You're a wild boy, man. Denver's your team. Denver, you know? It's a dynasty, yo. You don't even know. You forgot the question yourself because you bugging yourself, Ali. You try not to laugh at yourself.

You forgot the question. Yeah, the dynasty is definitely over. The dynasty is definitely over. I'm going on a racket. I'm going to let y'all know. When Chris Paul came, the dynasty definitely over. The dynasty is definitely over. I'm going on a racket. I'm going to let y'all know. When Chris Paul came, the dynasty was over. So you blaming the dynasty on Chris Paul? Halfway.

What's the other half? The other half is Draymond. The dynasty over because of Draymond? I mean, he's missing too many games, which is going to make it hard in the playoffs. You know, a team like that that's older like that needs to win early a lot so they can be able to be greatly seeded in the playoffs. They can't afford to be playing to get in or running against somebody young like Sha

or somebody like that being fourth and they end up fifth, right? That's a hard, that's a playoff, a pause, a hard playoff series. They'll end up fourth and then be playing, what, OKC? And then Sha make his mixtape again? That's going to still be over. And then part of it, I would say 25% Draymond and then 25% Klay, too. Because Klay haven't showed up this whole year. And I'm a Klay fan.

But I don't know what's going on. We got rid of Poole. And I said we. We got rid of Poole for this. So how's it we if you're a Denver fan? Because last year was my team. So you switched up just as soon as Denver wins the championship, that becomes your team.

That's how it went. So as soon as the season was over. They were unfocused. I like focused teams, you know. Who was unfocused? Golden State. So who won the championship before last year? Was it Golden State?

Before this? Before Denver. Golden State. So conveniently, whoever wins the championship, the next team next year, that's your team. No, when they got rid of Poole, I knew that was a bad decision for Chris Paul. It made them get older.

The team is moving. And that's when I can't stop becoming a team at that point. No, it was, when they lost, they stopped being my team. So you, that's what I'm saying, even worse, you waited to them. You didn't even wait for the trade. They was already not your team as soon as they lost. Yeah, you know how you growing up, if you playing in the playoffs, the team that beat me should be the champs.

Because I think I'm the best, right? Isn't that how you think growing up? It's two ways to think. playing in the playoffs, the team that beat me should be the champs because I think I'm the best, right? Isn't that how you think growing up? It's two ways to think. Right? If they beat us, they should be the champs. But sometimes you may think I don't want them niggas

winning Neville. It's both. I don't know. It depends on what it is. Like if it's some niggas that you don't fuck with, like, say you're playing some team from Connecticut and they beat you, like, if they win, it's your cool.

If it's some niggas that you know from Brooklyn, you're like, nah, nah, I don't want them. I don't want them niggas to win. Yeah, so I agree with you, and then I don't agree because it depends on who it is. Certain niggas, I'd be like, I don't want them niggas winning either. Fuck that.

I think that dynasty was over the moment Denver won. If Denver would have lost in the championship, then their dynasty wouldn't be over. But when a younger team beat you and they're bigger than you, Pauls, they're faster. I mean, they got more tools and more weapons. It's hard to dethrone a younger hungrier team versus an older team

that is good but they're they're older and they're not as hungry I don't know I would say yes the dynasty is over but I don't like the Calgo to stay out because they had that conversation before saying that the dynasty was over when I don't like to count Golden State out because they had that conversation before saying that the dynasty was over

when Kevin Durant left and then they end up still winning the championship after they're like oh the dynasty's over Kevin Durant isn't there it's over so if I had to go off the strength of what I've been seeing this season I would say yes the dynasty's over but

it's Golden State they have a lot of experience. I will say Klay Thompson and Andrew Wiggins are on having their worst years of their NBA career, period. Scoring, shooting percentage-wise, both of them. A lot of people, we always go to the core and say Draymond or Klay or Steph, but Andrew Wiggins has a lot to do with their winning as well,

and he's playing terribly. You know, we was playing games with him last year, and I don't know how serious it was about his girlfriend and everything else,

and we don't know if it's true or not true or whatever. Whatever it is, this is the worst year of his career and the worst year of Klay Thompson's career,

and they really both need to step up if the dynasty is going to continue. That's what I will say. Yeah, the reason why I'm saying it's over is because Klay is playing horrible on an extension year. So at the end of this year, are you giving him some big money?

If you're the GM right now, are you giving Klay an extension? It depends on how much for. It may not be the max like he want, but I wouldn't want to keep Klay on my team because what happens is if he becomes a free agent and then he goes to Sacramento. I knew you was going to say that. And then he's like, y'all didn't want to pay niggas.

Now I'm going to kill y'all niggas. But if he gets paid less, and now he's getting paid less than Andrew Wiggins, that psychologically messes up the dynamics. It depends on... Because now you're the initial core, but you're getting less than somebody who just came here. Yeah, but at the end of the day, everybody gets older. It depends on who it is, and I don't know.

That's a great point. I don't know Klay's mentality, but you got people who are just willing to play. Like, even, for instance, like Carmelo Anthony, towards the end of his career, he was just playing on a veteran's minimum. I'm not saying Klay's going to do that. I'm just saying sometimes you'll sacrifice

just to play basketball or be a part of something. I'm not saying, you could be right. Klay may be like, I'm not saying, sometimes you'll sacrifice just to play basketball or be a part of something. I'm not saying, you could be right. Clay may be like, I'm not taking less to Andrew Wiggins. Clay doesn't want to be the fourth highest paid on the team. Especially if Draymond got paid. Yeah, I did all

that for Draymond. We know you got to give Steph what you got to give Steph. Now, Steph and I get the bread, but at the end of the day, to me, Draymond, he got a great deal, but it isn't like

these deals is going on now. He got $100 million for four years. That's $25 million. Nigga's getting $62 million a year. So, Draymond,

to me, they got a great deal with Draymond for $25 million a year. Even Andrew Wiggins, this shit is $130 million compared to what this, they got a great deal with Draymond for $25 million a year. Even Andrew Wiggins, this shit is $130 million. Compared to what this, they just got $325 million. So these niggas is getting some bread, but it's not like they getting the bread that Tatum's about to get.

Jalen Brown got. Giannis is getting. Anthony Davis just got. Like you said, when Steph Curry's coming back around. He may want to, you know, we gave Dre. We got you, nigga. And he may say, no, I don't want that. But what you don't want to happen is that man have a resurgence with another team

and he go in the same conference and score, you have to play him four or five times a year. Let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. This afternoon, the Bucks will play the Celtics. Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at 27 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower? Mace. Who's playing again?

Celtics and the Bucs. That's a goodie. Yeah. That's a goodie. 27. I'm going to go. I'm going to go higher. Tatum.

I'm going out on a limb. Pause. Make me look smart. I'm going to go higher as well. I think this is a big game. Jalen Brown is at eight and a half rebounds and assists combined. Do you have him higher or lower, Kim? That was a tricky one.

Underdog. This is the first thing. The whole thing is I got to be more responsible because Code Cam kicking ass. Code Cam is out here kicking ass, man. Niggas use that Code Cam and underdog fantasy. Look, I may have collectively grabbed niggas over M this season, like between football, but cold cameras

kicking ass, man. So, pardon me if I take a second or two. I'm going to go higher. It's combined, right? Yes. Yeah, it comes down. Higher.

Okay, and Giannis is at 11 rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? 11 rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? 11 rebounds. That's difficult. Yeah, I'm going to go higher. I'm going to go higher as well.

Okay. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks too. Okay. In our last episode, we talked about American players versus international NBA players, so I kind of wanted to compare the players. They were on two teams, right? Which group would you rather have? So do you have your list? What players do you got? And let's compare them. Let me ask before we start. I know

we're talking about international versus American players, but is Embiid, are we considering Embiid on American or international? I would consider him American. Yeah, I would say international. Okay. All right. So I got Joker. No order, but Joker, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Sha, Jamal Murray, Victor,

and Sabonis. Who's Victor? Victor Wimba Yumba. Okay. We never come by his first name. Who's Victor? I was thinking about Olin Depot and shit. Yeah, you're right. Right.

And note what I just wrote. And I'd like to hear Macy's list again because I was typing in something when he was doing it. No, I'm not. Say it again so I can see if we matched anybody. Yeah, Joker, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Sha, Jamal Murray, Vic Wimby, and Sabonis. I got the same list.

But Sabonis. Yeah. The person, I got Laurie from Utah. That is Sabonis. That new nigga. I can't pronounce his last name. His first name is Laurie. But the same exact list.

Yeah, you're right. Without just traded off Sabonis. So who were they playing? Who were they playing? Ja Morant. We keep forgetting about Ja, man. Yeah, nigga, this is acting crazy. Yo, we can't.

We got to stop this shit. Yo, you know what we need to do? Starting next week, we need to put the countdown. But when Ja comes back, the Ja countdown, we need to definitely start putting it. That's a good decision.

Yeah, now we're going to start putting that at the bottom of the screen. Yeah, I put Ja versus Jamal Murray. Okay. I put Devin Booker Love you son I'm thinking love him

Some book boy Versus Luka Or No no no Sha It's a good game We just don't got no big man

Then I got KD versus Wimby Y'all gonna laugh at this But I got Tatum Versus MB We don't got no big man

So Pardon me Then we got versus Embiid. We don't got no big man, so pardon me. Then we got LeBron versus Giannis. Who else? I think we got enough to win the game. Is what you call it a European, too? I think we didn't have him in the list.

I have one that you guys Porzingis. Yeah Porzingis. Porzingis should have been on my list instead of Sabonis. I like Porzingis. Yeah and You gonna throw

Kyrie in this stack? That's what yeah technically. No Kyrie is American. I'm putting Kyrie on it. But technically Kyrie don't start

that Kyrie. Yeah technically Kobe was born in Australia too like technically yeah niggas born in back of Cossie and Bermuda niggas not from Bermuda

you want to put Bam versus Embiid look at us Embiid no we don't have no centers no I'm sitting here asking you Who is the best American center? Is it Anthony Davis?

It might be He's really a power forward Is it Towns? He's not from America Oh my goodness We don't We don't have no big men no more All these niggas wanna shoot threes Oh my goodness. We don't have no big men no more.

All these niggas want to shoot threes. Yo, who is American Sinner? We don't even raise niggas to be sinners no more. We don't have any. We got Bam, if you want to include Bam as a. She like that. Look at her, Bam. I don't know. Look, I didn't do mine in.

No, who's a center? We're going to lose. Yes, this is the problem we just had in FIFA. I'll be saying it on FIBA, whatever. Yeah, that shit over there. This is why we was getting out-rebounded every game because we didn't have any big men in America to go against the big men that we played against in other

countries. I'm sitting there looking at, I tried to Google American centers. It's Bam. And that's it. I mean, they, you know, yeah, Bam. And if you want, and if you want, Anthony

Davidson, how you feeling if he's a center or a power forward, whatever. Only big man pause I can remember playing center is the Lopez brothers. Really? Yeah. That's it. Unless y'all going to Anthony Davis. Where they from though?

Where the Lopez brothers from? They might not be American. They might be from Los Angeles. Los and Lopez's. You don't know. We got to see. More of the stories. With your list of internationalists, who do you think is going to win this game?

International will win. So you're saying that we've been surpassed in basketball? Mm-hmm. I think even with LeBron and KD, it wouldn't be enough to be joking and beat. Just look at that team. There's no way they would beat them. Steph Curry.

Did you have Kawhi up there? Healthy Kawhi? Yeah, but you're not going to get no rebounds. No, I'm just throwing shit out there. Especially playing in an NBA where you can sometime play zone. If you put Wimby at the top of that 1-3-1. Or international play where you can play a real, real zone. Yeah.

They put him on the perimeter. You're not getting no threes off. I'm not mad. Paul's peacing. We running. I'm trying to just fight for America. That's all I'm trying to do. Looking like Apollo out there.

We looking like Apollo right now. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. This looks like the revolution will be televised. Yeah. Because when your team is that tall and you got that wingspan pause of people playing defense on a perimeter, all they got

to do is change shots. You don't have to block it. You just change a shot and run. I'm not mad, man. We got to dive into this further, I believe, but I have to agree. I think that the international team is better than this list that we came up with. Yeah, like if you was playing Murray and Shaw in the backcourt with Victor at the three and Bede and Joker.

I mean, even Giannis. What would be the... they got no answers. I have no, I'm not disagreeing whatsoever. I totally agree. I'm just trying to think because we Americans. So I'm just trying to find a fucking silver lining in this shit, but I don't look good. Moving along,

Brandon Ingram's baby mama is now having a child with Anfernee Simons. The comments are filled with people asking if athletes only go for IG models and people are wondering why they keep getting in this predicament. So this is also circulating on social media. Y'all know I got to bring it to you.

So what is your viewpoint on the situation? And do you think that is a regular thing? Athletes talking to IG models? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you saying the same person that got a baby? That sounds weird. Like she had a baby by who again? Brandon Ingram. Brandon Ingram. And now she's pregnant with Simon's baby? Simon's from Portland.

Well, we know she's going to have some ballers in her family. That's first thing first. Her future is secured On a lot of levels Shout out to her What's her last name? Petty Oh no wonder

Oh my goodness Is this the same Petty That used to date like Future And Rich the Kid? I am not sure Your sources might be better than mine Hey I've been knowing a few things Like Future and Rich the Kid? I am not sure. You be knowing this. Your sources might be better than mine. Hey, I be knowing a few things.

Yeah. I didn't even know. I don't know nobody. Oh, you're looking it up now. You know I don't say things unless I know it. You just know random things, but you be right. That's my job to know what people don't tell me. So she's actually

She's actually Doing her thing I mean she got babies From two ballers Child support Gonna be crazy The kids gonna be Well taken care of

But They said They thought the baby Was books But it ended up being this Niggas pull out game Is weak yo For us They said they thought the baby was books, but it ended up being him. Niggas pull-out game is weak, yo. Yo, niggas pull-out game is damn weak for us. Like, what makes the pussy that good that you got to deal with a chick for 18 years

and pay her behind the shit, man? And then you females, y'all just be getting anybody's, anybody to nothing, y'all, and keeping it as a souvenir. Like, yo, my nigga. That's all it is. A baby ain't nothing but a nigga's nothing and keep it as a souvenir forever. Forever it's yours.

I got to chill with this, man. Yo, look, this is what I'll say I'll give y'all a little credit I'm not gonna give y'all no credit I didn't have Instagram in junior high school or high school

and I guess y'all are 19 20, 21, 22 whatever so if I if I was able to find the jet beauty of the week when I was younger I guess I would attract

that damn thing if I was able to find the jet beauty of the week when I was younger, I guess I would attract that damn too. If I was able to find the jet beauty of the week, maybe I would attract that damn too. And y'all have more access to get to the girls that y'all want to get to because you got to realize this. When you come into the new money, let's say for instance, this is your third year in the

NBA, you're about to get an extension. So you've been looking at this chick on Instagram since you was 15. You ain't have no bread. You was 15 years old when you wanted this girl. Yeah. Now you got the money to get her. She answering the DMs.

You got the followers. And you get her. That's dope because now you getting somebody that you admire the light all these years. Nah, but Killer, they said she was romantically linked, allegedly, with Ingram, Simons, Quincy Miller,

Campaign, and Tristan Thompson. This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's your turn. Yeah. Yeah, murder be knowing this inside gossip shit yep so

but that's that's see everything that you the people you just named future this is what makes it worse you know this yeah

you wanna you wanna have a baby with her you know let me you know this ain't her last baby with somebody you're not the last stop so if you don't mind

sharing that with the next nigga rapper or basketball player cause after this after the baby get about 14, 16 months and you not doing what you supposed to do somebody else is dumb enough

she'll kick look these bitches have a unit they have a circle and they be like the draft is coming it's gonna be in New York girl yo it's January 19th and so and so so and so and they be like, the draft is coming, it's going to be in New York, girl. Yo, it's January 19th and so and so, so and so.

And they get ready and they see you dumb niggas coming. Pause. No pun intended. So you got to be aware of that. Y'all got to get better big brothers, whatever. And then a lot of times niggas don't care. They like, you getting a certain amount of money. You got to start being niggas big brothers. Yeah, but then again, being niggas big brothers. Yeah, but then again, no, niggas talking about,

yo, she won 20 a month, getting 400 a game. It works out. We was just having that conversation yesterday. Yeah. Like, bro, we didn't pay growing up. Yeah. We didn't pay. Yeah, I mean, this is Duke's beef.

This is Duke's problem right now. We didn't pay. No, this is Duke's beef. This is Duke's problem right now. No, this is Duke's beef right now. So listen, because I know I don't want to, Nick got to leave you about three, four minutes. Listen, Duke is mad at Drake because Drake is leading a non-masculine world according to him. He's the reason that people are wearing fingernail polish

and that niggas is dressing how they dressing because it's just what I said. What are you talking about? He says, you got to realize when the shift came in music, this is what happened to the whole world because Drake's leading it. We grew up on Snoop, Ken. This ain't shows or tricks.

We was masculine. We watched a video dmx and cisco i said what about cisco say it was masculine feminine and so he's blaming this whole on the music because the music and and the reason you're saying that the reason i'm bringing that up is because you was like, yo, we ain't paid, but we was listening to niggas who ain't. Like, if you paid, you was a sucker. I used to have to sneak and listen to R&B,

and Bloodshed and Duke would hear me and say, nigga, Candy Cam. They called me Candy Cam for a year for listening to R&B. In the 90s. Now, years later, it was the best, it's the best R&B. Oh, the 90s R&B, the 90s. Now, years later, it was the best, it's the best R&B, oh, the 90s R&B, the 90s R&B.

When I was trying to listen to it, I was candy care. Listen, nigga, candy care. I'm going to listen to R&B and this down to the third and Jodeci. But, yeah,

y'all niggas got to get a better pull-out game if y'all want to go raw, bro. You won't, you're not the first, you won't be the last. And shout out to Petty because obviously

you got this shit running like a cartel. A well-organized drug ring, a Fortune 500 company. Do your thing, girl. More suckers out there. It ain't your fault. Yeah. How's it going to make who the lollipop

and who the sucker? Yeah. She the lollipop, y'all the suckers. Yeah. And if she keep this up, she'll have more, more sons in the NBA than LaVar Ball. Yeah.

Good point. I like that. Good point. Well, congrats on your child. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching.

And as always, it is what it is. It's too big next. Like when they doing them two for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.