IT IS WHAT IT IS - WAS CAM NEWTON WRONG IN INTERVIEWING ONE OF STEPHEN A'S OPPS & PUKA NACUA GOT A BITING PROBLEM!

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

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Okay, we're back at it. I'm back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treger Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. Gila, what's good? Bertha, what's up? Yeah, man, I was looking at the clock. I had, what's going on in this? Right, like a clock.

My mom is sus-s. My hand is hurting, man. I have Mama-Suce is on deck today. There's a lot of things. settled down for you murder. You know? Is she a masseuse or a massage therapist? A massage therapist.

And this is, well, actually, you met Maze before. And this is a title. See, so Stad, I don't know if you seen. We actually talked about is what it is, but there's a whole topic we had because she made it clear that a masseuse is not a massage therapist. So break down your,

thing real quick way the masseuse of the differences? A masseuse is probably someone who a masseuse is probably someone who does the massages but then does the happy endings in the end. A licensed massage therapist does not do that.

So they don't call themselves masseuses. I didn't even know that. Does she not a masseuse? The 10 masseuse can be used if you're an elder because it's out of respect. But this day and age, no. It's a disrespect to a massage therapist.

Mace said, because you can't hear Macy. She's a therapist. Yeah, she said, yeah, she's a therapist. She's not a masseuse. She actually gets offended if you call it. That's good. That's good. Okay.

Yeah, killer. I just need to know. Who is it good for? You know, I see you getting a massage. I just needed to know that I saw you was on time. because Nick hits me up, right? Pause. And Nick asked me after I told him,

yo, my head was hurting crazy. I had to rest. All of that, he said, yo, is it a sick day or 1,500? I like that. Yeah, you know what? You know what's great? You know, murder, let me tell you something, right?

So we had a quick discussion, right, on. Yeah. So we had a discussion on the show, another show, and we was talking about, and it's relating to what you just said about Nick, because Nick probably don't know, but he'll find out. But I was saying it's this,

so sin asked me, right? What the fuck? What was it about? We asked if, if, who did an interview, Larry? If somebody did an interview, who did the interview with the ops that we was talking about? And sin asked me if I did it. If he would do that, would I be mad?

So cool, we can talk about that too after this. You can actually start with this. Did you see what's going on with Cam Newton and Stephen A. Smith? No. Okay, so do you know that Jason Whitlock always has a problem with Stephen A. Smith all the time? I do know that. You do know that. Cam Newton interviewed Jason Whitlock, and Jason Whitlock was talking shit about Stephen A. Smith on the show.

So a week later, you know, they questioned Cam Newton like, yo, why would you do that, Kendrick Perkins, Ryan Clark, like, yo, Stephen A, bought you on first take, yada, yada, yada, yada. Why would you interview somebody and not only interview his enemy, let him talk shit about him? So, you know, it's a big discussion. And Stephen A kind of told Cam, yo, no, it ain't no problem, but, you know, it is loyalty in this business.

And Cam Newton, because Cam Newton said, when it comes to this building business, pardon me, is no loyalty. And that's what his comment was. So sin asked me if he did that, would I fire him? And I told him, I wouldn't fire you because I play a different type of game.

You would quit before I even fire you for the shit that I would probably do. you would quit before I eat before I fire you you'll be ass-necking on the I-15 interview on the nigger on 115 degrees if you all you don't want to do that then I ain't got no choice you know but you know let's start the show with that Mace what do you feel about Cam Newton actually interview

and Jason Whitlock, not just interviewing Jason Whitlock, because we know the history between him and Stephen A. Smith, him actually letting him talk about, because Cam could have edited it. It wasn't live. He actually let him talk about Stephen A. Smith.

Stephen A. Smith didn't address Cam Newton in the beginning because he said, whatever, but Ryan Clark and Kendrick Perkins basically came to the defense of Stephen A. Smith. Like, this dude gave you a platform, this down and third, and Cam Newton. Like, I got my own playing platform. Ain't no loyalty in this business. Two questions. How do you feel about that? And then secondly, would you fire Cam Newton from first take if you were in this position?

If I was in Stephen A's position. Yes, yes. I think sometime you have to do what you know is best. I think to think that another man is going to make the decision that you want them to make is kind of, it's kind of, um, naive, right? Like, no matter how much you, you could have love for me, you're going to make the decision that Cam should make. That's what makes you camp. I'm going to make the decision that makes me Mace. That's what makes me Mace.

Like, say, and I think when, when you look at this kind of interview, I think this is what's missing, not particular. this interview, but interviews of this type. It's so much biasedness in media that people don't get the real stories. Unless we really do real journalism, real journalism starts with facts and truth. So if this is a person that holds a portion of the story that we need, for us to go around this person, it's for us to have to make up our own story. And I think it's time to write a new narrative in media. That's really why I got into it. Other than just really work with you, it's really to write a new narrative in media. It's time for a new narrative. People have always protected the people

they love. They've always protected the people they rock with. So then you never really get the truth. You're always listening to biased stories by biased people. I think one of the biggest interviews in the world would be one of us with, right? But who would do that? You get what I'm saying? But that's what media is really about. Media is really about telling the stories that other people cannot tell. You sitting right there and him having a mic and the lights on both of y'all with,

okay, go from the beginning to now. You'll break the internet. It will be no story bigger than that. But do you want to do it? Do you feel like doing it? That's real media at its best. There's no story that would be bigger than that. Instead, how do you feel about it?

Yeah, I'm on the verge because, like, if I had to put myself in that position, and Mesa, I understand where you're coming from, because you want a holistic point of view. You don't want everything to be biased. Like, people should be able to stick to the facts. I totally understand that. But if I was invited or I brought somebody on my show that didn't like y'all, right? I'm not just going to let them sit and say bad things about y'all.

Like, you can have your opinion. And especially if I know you're saying things that I know are not true about y'all and your character, like regardless of what, because, you know, the internet also makes a lot of assumptions. So being y'all are two people that I sit next to five times a week, me personally, you can't say this about Cam, you can't say this about Mace because that's not, true. And so I also have the right. I can be unbiased, but I'm going to ask questions and also clear things up that I know aren't true about y'all because you're not also fin to sit up here on my platform that I know was going to reach a lot of people and speed out things that I know

do not represent you guys' character. Like there's a line there too. So it's like, I don't even think it's a problem with like, cool, you don't like somebody that I talk to every day. That's fine, but you're not going to come up here, talk about them, and then continue to say things that diminish their character that I know aren't true. At that point, then I have to step in. And I have to be like, look, I invited you up here. I appreciate you being up here. But what you're saying about these two individuals, at least isn't my experience.

You can have your opinion, but I'm not going to get here and let you badmouth them. That's just not going to happen. Yeah, I'm not talking about bad mouthing people. I'm actually talking about, I think the man, the man, Paul's conversation is what's missing. it's so easy to have a great platform and use your platform to stir a narrative. I miss Barbara Waters, where she sat next to the person and said exactly what she wanted to say and asked exactly what she wanted to ask to the person's face without biasness. That's what's missing, right?

So let's say Puff comes on from jail. what better person to interview them than me to ask the real questions what better person to be sitting there in a suit with some glasses like this because you can't lie to the person you're talking to and is that's what's missing and that's what we're missing i get excited when i hear truth you know when i hear people talk that's why i was so turned off with media and so turned off with music because you're missing the truthfulness. And that's what really drives, even music. I miss people like Tupac. I miss people actually getting on the mic with something to say, and you knew what they say every time they opened their mild pause, they were going to say something that was going to shake the culture.

Not this Kanye stuff, where you're saying stuff, and we know it's calculated. We know why you're saying what you're saying. I miss truth. I miss truth. Yeah, I totally agree with stat. and Stephen A. Smith. Because niggas just be saying anything. And that don't mean because you're in front of them,

they're not just going to say anything again. I think if Stephen A. Smith sat down with Jason Whitlock, it would not solve anything. I think because Jason Whitlock, that's what Stephen A. Smith was saying in his interview. He's like, Cam, only reason I'm mad at Cam because you didn't even fact check. He's saying a bunch of stuff that you know it's not true.

And I think it's to the point when Jason Whitlock and Steve, to where if they're in front of him, each other, that Jason Whitlock would call him a liar and Stephen A would call him a lie. It's too deep a pause. Like when it gets that deep sometimes, it's unrepairable. You know what I'm saying?

Like the me and your situation is rare. The Isaiah Magics doesn't happen all the time. Like if you're grown enough, now don't get me wrong now to agree with you, what you're saying? If you're grown enough to have those convos, Absolutely. But you can look and see from niggas posture from the way niggas acting that they still haven't grown to that level to even have a sit down.

You know what I'm right. You're right. You're right. But I know what. That's what I'm speaking of. That's what I'm speaking up, though. I'm not speaking of ignorance versus ignorance. I'm speaking when people are actually able to have that conversation.

Like before we had the conversation with Sean, right? And you asked me, you say, yo, Mace, you want to have Sean on here? I said, bet. I didn't, I didn't fear anything he could say. I'm a guy's guy, right? I like being around Paul. It's not a guy's guy, but you get what I'm saying? Like, I don't drink in front of other men.

Like, I don't become something different. My story doesn't change. I'm very matter of fact. People say, yo, Mace, you said that? I said, I actually said more than that. But they didn't get everything. You know, pause. So when it comes to that, people are not used to being around people that keep their story the same.

Most people get around people and be like, nah, that ain't how it went. Nah, bro. So when we got in front of Sean, I was excited because it was going to be the first time we spoke. And he knows who I am. He knows I wasn't going to change or be anything different. I think that's what makes me me. So I love that. And to your credit,

But you do have to have people that are ready to let their lies go. People have to be ready to let them lies go. You can't go to heaven with them lies, man. You got to at some point, you got to tell the truth. So I like the fact that even when Sean got on here, he was like, you know what? I'm going to just say exactly how it went, you know? And I think to I wasn't there for all of the story, but the part that he shared, I thought there was truth to what he was saying.

Yeah, and what I'm saying, what you're saying is right, I'm adding on to it. We're talking about a pastor and a politician. Y'all are elevated. Not everybody is there. Yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying?

Great point. That's what I'm talking about. Everybody's not there. And I just don't think it's for everybody. And you could tell, the thing about it is this murder. The thing about it is this murder. You could watch niggas and tell it They ain't, it's not, because you can get the niggins a survey and be like, look.

Yeah, you can tell, you can tell when people are comfortable in their own skin. You can tell when people are comfortable with the past, but not just comfortable with the past. They're comfortable with the present. Like, I don't, I don't need no more trophies. I don't need no more accolades. I know who I am. You know what I'm saying? Like, and once you know who you are, you can stand in front of the people.

and you could be okay with him having a better watch or a better house or a better car. I think some people just are not there yet, you know, to your point. But the time of writing new narratives is over. That's what I'm really talking about, where people are lying about the past and making new truths, not new narratives. They rewrite a history. Like, bro, that's not how it went, bro. And that's why sometimes people always get mad with us because we were there.

You can't say that Mace wasn't there. You can't say that killer wasn't there. And when I speak, I just, I have an elephant's brain. I remember everything. I remember what we were wearing. Pause. I remember where we were. I remember who exactly was there.

And when people put themselves in situations, it's like, bro, you was not, you really wasn't there, bro. Right. Yeah, and that's a fact, but not only that, to agree with you, but not only that, people don't have the skin for us, elephant's skin that we have. You know what I mean? People be in the comments or say,

these two different type of niggas, they up there talking about when they dissed each other. They up there. You know, the nigger came up there laughing about the oracle. The nigger, like, fam, everybody can't get on got that skin to be like... Yeah, niggins tell something about your sister. It's like, hey.

Bro, when it's war, it's war. It's not, nobody's off limit. Yeah, but the point being is that I'm just happy that we're in a place that we can talk about that. Some niggas is just, you know, they fairy tale that went too far

to where they can't do it. You know what I'm saying? And Jason Whitlock and Steve and A just to me is unrued. repairable. I think Stephen A.'s growing enough to do it, but I don't think Jason Wicklock has. But there's a great conversation to know because I thought you made

some really, really valid points, but that's to be a two-way street. Absolutely. After that, y'all definitely... Yeah, if you're not done lying, that's what we will say. If you're not done lying, you're not ready to have the conversation. Yeah, man. Well, I want to add to that really quick, Mace, before I move on, but what if it's truth in their eyes?

Because you always say there's always two different sides. There's two truths and I'm like, what if yours doesn't align with theirs, but that's truly what they believe, then is there a point where you can come to an agreement or you just decide to go your different ways? What you believe, yes, what you believe and what's true to you is slightly different, right? You could believe that that's what happened, but you knowing that's what happened is different, right?

So we're both watching a fight and I saw two swings and he grabbed this guy and he threw him on the floor. You can say, I think this guy won. We're given two different narratives, but the story should be slightly the same. It shouldn't be so far that I saw him get punched three times and thrown on the floor. And you come in and say, my truth is he won. There's no way he won if he got punched three times and. throw it on the floor. You get what I'm saying? You could have a different variation of this story,

but it shouldn't be that dramatic because that's what we're talking about. Yeah. One more thing that I want to add because now it's making my brain think. I think the last thing that'll add regarding the situation, especially Cam New, and I know it's his platform. He's going to want to get his views and do what you want to do. And I understand that. But an aspect that a lot of people lack nowadays is also everything doesn't have to be a public conversation or left in.

Because also if that is somebody's truth, like, that's fine. You know, the truth versus the reality, what you think, cool, but out of respect for somebody that you respect and are interacting with every day. Because, you know, people beef all the time. It happens. I understand. Some things don't have to be put. to the internet, especially in that case scenario. Like if it's, you know they have a strong hatred,

and you can address it, cool, whatever. But when it starts going past a certain amount of time, it's like you're not even just telling your truth or your side. You sound like you're hating. Then I'm allowing the whole thing to be publicized. And then I don't say anything towards that statement. It's like, and I mean, Kim brought up, he said there's no loyalty, but then I don't know how to say it.

Cam Newton. Yeah, I think. If you, honestly, I want to say this because this is really, this is really on my heart to say, if you keep making media, right, you keep putting stories out there just to hurt people, then that's coming back to you. Yes. That's definitely coming back to you. It's one thing about us doing takes about what we believe.

And it's another thing when you just on purpose is out here slandering people just to get views. I think that got to stop where black media is today. It's like people think the only way they could be a success is to say the negative thing. I think the truth is as entertaining, especially if you have enough charisma and you have enough wherewithal and style and delivery like we have. We're just taking the truth. We're not pinpointing anybody. We're not saying today men killer is not on the phone like, yo, today we're going to destroy so and so. These questions are just coming to us and we're giving our honest take on it.

I think honesty could be as entertaining. You don't have to keep this person's name on your algorithm. You don't have to continuously say something about killer or say something about me just to make your story go. I think you're as entertaining if you look into those parts of your life. But what I would say with this whole story with Jason Whitlock, as we keep going on, is that this is probably a conversation, like killer says, it's never going to happen. They're not ready to have that conversation.

Yeah, I agree. But some people also need to learn to just be a little nicer. That's what I'll say. I just think, too, to add on to what you're saying is, it's to, like, you got to think about this. I don't know how Jason Whitlock is Stephen A. Smith is 58. He's 58, too. They're both 508. How much time is left?

You know what I'm saying? Like, just move forward. Yeah. That's what I'm getting at. It's at the point where, look, I'm not going to spend the last 32 years I got or whatever much time I got left on the planet if I'm Stephen A. It's days or more Stephen A, I would say. Addressing you every two months.

If you want to address me, fine. Nigg, we're on the clock. You know what I'm saying? Niggins on the clock. And if that's how you want to spend your time, cool. I guess Stephen Nade, too, though. He comes back every... You all have to think about this.

When Stephen A. addresses this, it's like after 27 things were said, then he'd be like, okay, I gotta say something there. It's to the point where there's enough enough. He tries to ignore it as much as he can. But you got certain people and certain bloggers that make a career off talking about three niggas. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not just talking about Jason Will. I'm talking about certain bloggers in general. They focus in on three niggas, four, five, and then sprinkle it with a couple other niggas, and that's how they lick. Because if you want to know about this person, just go to their blog. And they sit in the house and just make a living

talking about niggas. I ain't knocking them. It is what it is, but I'm just saying, in general, that's where we're at in society. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, I think, honestly, I think, arguing is a poor man sport. I think we should just start calling it a poor man's sport.

I think when people are rich and they're doing well, they're not really interested in arguing. That is really a poor man's sport. Great conversation. Now on to Kirk Cousins. So he will be signing a five-year, $172 million deal with the Raiders, that in reality is a one-year, fully guaranteed $20 million deal. So Mace, what's your opinion on his deal and him being a raider? Kirk Cousins? Yeah.

Whoever his Asian is, he's the man. Word. Her cousin's just been getting chicken after chicken. And he's probably a phenomenal God Paul's when it comes to the locker room. Because everywhere he goes, they open the checkbook for Kirk Cousin. I know his wife, Paul, must be happy because a husband just keep getting to the bag. And I've never seen somebody not perform at such a Super Bowl level and get this money time after time. So again, I think his agent needs a bonus pause, whatever his fee is, he need to go up.

Him and Kirk Cousins need to be buddies. He need to write him in his will somehow, leave something to the agent. because this agent has been really good. I'm interested to know his name. Stad, look up his name. But I say shout-outs to the agent, man. I think this is great. It adds some stability to the Raiders locker room

and it adds a real general when it comes to, like, personnel when it comes to the Raiders. Because sometime in turning a franchise around is you need somebody at the helm with a good attitude, not just could play the sport, but a good communicator and a good facilitator. And I think with everything that Kurt Cousin has seen over the years and his attention to detail, playing in Atlanta,

playing in Minnesota, all of these different places, I think he's well-versed to help even some of the new guys that are come in. And when you're turning around a team, it doesn't happen overnight. So if there's going to be a lot of different directions and different directives, you need a great communicator. And I think Kurt is that kind of guy. And he's definitely a player's player where people will love to be around him. So this is a great beginning of changing the culture of the Las Vegas Raiders.

His agent's Mike McCartney, by the way. And Cam is enjoying his massage therapist, not masseuse. I'm locked in. I get it. Yeah, what we doing? Kirk Cousins. No, I heard, Mesa, I was just having my eyes close. Damn, I don't know about this massage therapist with the pink horse power.

Massage therapist and the pink horse power. Nah, this is two separate different things. I heard everything you said I had my eyes close. But I agree with you. That was going to be my take. Whoever his agent is, the agent is lit, bro. Like you said, you said everything that I was going to say about the agent. like Kirk Cousins, we just talked about this a day or two ago

where he's the fourth highest paid player, Nick, in NFL history. Think about NFL history. We're talking about NFL history. I'm talking about out of everybody and what you said Mace is correct. For a nigga not even to win the Super Bowl. Like, yo, you can have to check. I don't even think he bent to the Super Bowl. Kurt ain't even been to the Super Bowl.

and the fourth highest paid. Them niggas manipulate, not manipulate, they found the loophole in the game. They used them franchise tags to their advantage. Him and his agents, big, big props to both of them. I think also this, right, when you think about what's going on with, and he also said it, Mason,

it seems like he's great in the locker room wherever he goes. They fuck with him. I remember he's on a jet dancing with all the jerse of one of the players' jewelry on and all that shit. That was a really dope clip. But I think they got, so I think it's this, right? They're going to get the number one pick the Raiders that is,

and they're going to get Mendoza. That's the quarterback that's going to come out, and he's going to go number one to the Raiders. And you would like a veteran who could still play to teach him, look, this is what you need to do, this is what you don't need to do. You know, give them some guidance. But let's be realistic. You know who wanted that job, murder?

Who is Shador? No, I mean Shador is in Cleveland. I'm talking about that job Kirk Cousin's hat. We talked about it last week. Do you remember? Who? Tom Brady. Tom Brady tried to go to the NFL

and find out, yo. Can he play one more time? Yeah, can I get it? Yo, let me in there, you know. I'm going to play for the team my own. NFL was like, Tom, you wilding, niggas. You bugging out.

and Tom told him, no, I was just kidding. Tom had that good-ass game and that flag football. Like, oh, I'm still going to cut niggas' ass. It wouldn't have been no Kirk Cousers if the NFL said, if the NFL said, Tom, you're going to play for the team you own, let's do it. And that's why you got to fuck with the NFL, because think about how much money the NFL would make

if Tom Brady comes back and plays this season. Not only plays the season, plays with team they own. For Vegas. Yes, a nigger said. Tom, the shield is the shield, my nigga. That's that. Give the team up and come back or own the team. We're not playing these games with you.

We know you Tom Legend and all that. We're not doing it. But it would be no Kirk Cousins in Vegas if they told Tom Brady that he would be able to play. Tom, we see you. I'm not mad at the attempt. I would have loved to see it personally. Yeah, that would have been the perfect setup, a smooth. He probably would have got more than 20 mil of course.

Then you got the number one draft pick, which we know is probably, I'm saying probably it's going to be Mendoza. So then he gets to work with him like that. And then you're in Vegas. Still in a great city. So you still, but don't get it wrong, you still get Brady to help out because Brady's bought ownership. So you got Kirk Cousin, got Brady.

This whole situation's amazing. Right. And it's, we need more of us in those situations. Yeah. I'm just thinking they just move so smart. Yeah, listen, man, Tom Brady would have been playing. It would have been, it would have been crazy. I would have loved to see it.

man, but not mad at the leadership that Mendoza's going to have when he gets there. See, think about this too. What you think about this, murder? See, Mendoza, my opinion is this, I don't know this for a fact, but I'm asking you your opinion. Tom to type, it looked like Tom may have been the type

and nigga been like, come on, we don't lost two straight, I need to get in there. What do you think about if Tom ended up getting the job it wouldn't have been a lot of mistakes would have been able to happen with Mendoza because Tom would have been itching to get in there. They could have went 10 and O

and lost two straight, and Tom would have been like, I'm thinking I should take over. It's almost playoff time. Do you think Tom would have laid homeboy time to grow or he would pause? Or you think he would have tried to get back in there quicker than he needed to be, if need be.

According to his last take, Tom would have the three games. Tom would have said, now, what are we doing now? You're trying to win a knife. Yeah. And you don't need of having me here and not activate me. All that. Yeah.

And you know with Tom being on the side line, it's almost like Averson coming off the bench, right? Yeah. You just can't have Averson on the bench. It's bad for the arena. Right. Everybody is going to be asking, yo, why they don't have Averson in there? So sometimes when older players want to just be on the arena. the bench, they can't because their name and their story is so lit and their storyline has

been so big that it's impossible to just hide them on the bench, you know? Yeah, I agree with that. That's why I think towards the end of his career, talking about Carmelo and Anthony, they're like, this is a nigga too legendary to be bringing off the bench, you know what I'm saying? But think about it, Tom is already manipulating the game. Tom's an owner, but still an NFL analyst every weekend. And I've seen other people complain about that because what happens is when your NFL analyst

and you're announcing the game, you get a lot of insights from teams. So let's just say the Seahawks are playing the Browns. You get to talk to the coaches, a couple of the players, what's the game playing? So you have knowledge on what you're announcing. And I've seen people say, if I'm many of these teams,

they've got to talk to Tom before he announces the game, I'm not telling Tom nothing. So he could take it. This was last. year. So he could take it back to Lord Vegas. Nah, man. Y'all tripping, nigga. You're talking about give Tom the insight and then he'll

go back to Vegas. And then what happens was one game when he wasn't announced and they had him in the Skybox with the headphones on. Nick, show all this in the show talking about it too, so people can actually see this shit. Yeah. So they said... Skybox gate. Yes, yeah, it's

Skybox gate. So you're getting information from the team so you can announce the game and the next thing you know you up there with the Raiders in the Skybox with the headphones on. It's wild, man. But stats slogan, if you can get away with it. And they are, not even if. They're actually doing it.

So shout out to them for figuring out how to finesse the system because a lot of us are still not there. But Vegas is going to be lit. And then literally, 2029, like the Super Bowl, like this is all curated. Like, they know, everybody knows what they're doing. We're just. Yeah.

So one year we got to suit, the baseball team should be back here that year. That new NBA team should be back in Vegas and then the Super Bowl all one year. That's insane. They know what they're doing. Okay, on that note, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss Puka Nakua. Don't go anywhere. years and counting got you feeling like an option.

Maybe I'm my own problem, baby. She's tired of hearing, I don't know. My stubborn in me won't fall for all trust. But she ain't really thinking about one of me. So Huka Nakua has entered a rehabilitation facility amid allegations of assault. So we had talked about it, one of our prior episodes being accused of biting. somebody was a whole conversation. So he checked into a luxury treatment center in Malibu. His attorney actually told NFL's in Rap report. The statement said Puka takes responsibility for

his well-being and increasing his performance during the off season. So in early March, before any temporary restrating order was filed and subsequently denied by the court, Puka voluntarily entered a holistic care facility to focus on his personal growth. Mace. What's your opinion on Puka situation and him deciding to check in to the facility. Who did he bite? It was some girl. They were going out. I don't know if they knew each other, but that's what she claimed.

So it's alleged, but yes. So after he bites her, I'm just taking in a story. After he bites or it goes into holistic rehab? Well, I mean, she alleged it was a solidity. so I don't know when things happened, but yes, he checked into rehab. Biden is assaults that. Well, I'm saying alleged because I don't know what actually happened. I'm just reading the statement she put out.

So I don't want to put that on him because I don't know. You know. So I'm supposed to say, how do I feel about the allegations or? I actually don't think you were on that episode when we spoke about the allegations. So both. one, your opinion on the allegations of him biting a woman. Oh, yeah. And then two, your opinion on him deciding to take it into his own hands and check into rehab regarding the situation.

And what we've seen from him in the off season. What kind of rehab is it? It just says a holistic care facility. So he's going to be focusing on personal growth. There's many different videos of him outside and like a little lit and people have been catching him on video. Let me go first, make on this one. if you're not, if that's okay with you. Go ahead.

Listen, we got to stop doing shit than covering it up with mental health, with rehab. Joe, you did it. You're on steroids. And then I got to take time from now. You're biting bitches. You're nibbling.

Whatever you're doing, because that's the topic makes. I don't think he was on the show. Yeah. We wasn't sure. It wasn't like, he got to, Because we're talking about he got a biting problem. Like, we didn't, we was trying to figure out the environment. Was it at a party at his house and he just walked up on somebody and bit him?

Did he start nibbling on somebody earlobe and it turned into Mike Tyson? Like, we're trying to figure out, which we never got to the bottom of. But what I will say is now that I'm hearing he's going to rehab, I feel that what are you going to rehab for the, because you got a biting problem? You just be randomly biting people that to the point where you got to go to rehab I'm saying this murder The reason why I'm just going to keep it short sweet

I know you're digesting the story Niggas always doing TIGO in the way to rehab out the country I don't know if you've seen that murder Yeah he's about to go to some shit Niggers always go in this You should have went before This is my problem with the whole shit

Am I happy they seeking treatment Sure. Okay, sure. That's the right thing to say, right? No, I'm glad he's getting the help that he needs. You know, we see these problems. You know, you had a problem for it went public. But now to say because you're an athlete, this is a PR thing. Let's get the PR team on it. Let's say that he's going to rehabilitation. Oh, Tiger, we're going to send him out the country. Yeah, we're going to run with mental health. Yo, this is PR at his highest and his finest. I don't be jacking him, murder, because, you know, Tiger, we're going to send him out the country. Yeah, we're going to run with mental health. Yo, this is PR at his highest and his finest. I don't be jacking him, because they could have fixed this problem when they first knew he was biting, they didn't just find out he was biting people. Yeah, he's been biting people, of course. Yeah, we're just finding out about it. You don't just, this ain't your first bite.

Pause. And why are you biting people? Like, what's going through your mind? Like, when you meet somebody, you high five them. You just walk up, piss them mind, and randomly just bite them. See, this is what happens. It's like, you know, you know, I just woke up like, yo, what are you doing, bro?

It's like, it's not funny. It's not funny. Yeah. Because the thing about it is, it's not enough information, right? Because you're right. What if you walk up to somebody and bite him or what if you're being like, like, let's say, for instance, you finessing, which is where it, you up there talking to the girl, and then you just getting close to my neck.

Like, yo, when do you, what is the point? When you start saying, you know, I think I need to bite this shit, man. You know, let her know it's real. You're not real. Is that it real? Is that it rich? You look good enough to fight you. I can just fight you right now.

Is that his opening line? Like, what is people fucking up? And do they like this, right? Is he so rich that they like it? Like, they really bite somebody and it's like, yo, he really bit you? The girl going to the bathroom, like, yeah, he really bit me. He's crazy. Like, he bite me.

I'm calling the bully. And that's the point, right? Murder, that's a great point, what you just say. He might have been. He might have been. Bits 17 chicks to 18 chicks. Hold on now. You're biting people.

Y'all let them bite y'all? He always do this. You know, they just making light of it because he rich. You know, when you're rich, you get away, people get away with a lot of stuff. And to somebody's like, no, this was not right. Like, he bit you. Yeah, I got 14 sisters, you know.

And they're telling him friends. And we just say hypothetically, right? And this happens, there's somebody like, no, if he ever bites me, I'm calling the police. And then he comes down and everybody like, here he goes. And the girl, like, he better not bite me. And she's the first one he bites. Yeah. It's like a pit bull off the leash, you know?

Yeah. And then they say he's going to rehab after. Whenever you go to rehab right after the accusation, it's saying you did it. It's given you did it. Yeah. and it's given you been doing it. You got to realize, murder, you said rich, right? Which is correct.

But think about this. A lot of these pro athletes been lit since they was nine, ten years old. When did this start? He just saying, out the money. You can be been biting people. Yeah. You think he's been biting.

This is what you're thinking. Yeah, he could have been biting since he's been all-American. The nod. And when you're good enough, they're covering. it up according to your statement if you're good enough they'll find a way

to get rid of it you know he's just playing here grow out of it and now he didn't grow out of it now he didn't grow out of it Great questions. We're asking great questions. And I have another great question before we go to break, because we're on the conversation of rehab,

which I hope Puka gets the help. Here go, Gen Z with the help. Yes. Maybe. Clearly we need more mental health days because everybody's going crazy. Let's get a nut biting female date. That's why we're having. Clearly.

Clearly. You have to explicitly say things. They say things. The violent biders. Yeah. You have to say things, because things are coming up that we didn't even know was a thing to be worried about. But now people gotta worry.

Man, I'm gonna do a commercial for this. Have you ever been bit? And with the sad music and all that, because you're right, Statt. We don't know who's biting. Murder, murder, right? Because you wasn't on the show, right? It's this rapper from Harlem, right?

And I know this girl, I was with this girl. And she, you know, she has a lot of followers on Instagram, so on and so forth. I told the story today he wasn't here. She has a lot of followers on Instagram songs. She's voluptuous. And that's why you, not you,

you people are thinking I'd be careful what you say, or just don't give a fuck like me. Anyway, he was in her DMs, and she showed me his, her DMs. She's like, this is niggas from Harlem, this is what y'all be doing? And I swear on everything I love,

he said, y'all just feel like biting on you. told the girl this. This was like four years ago. And she wrote... The face. Yo, so she's like... So she wrote back,

yo, you bugging. What are you talking about? Because she's, you know, she's one of these models that show a lot of skin, you know, the vicky's and all that. And he said, you have neckin' on the grim

and now you mad a nigga kid because a nigga won a little nibble. Fuck out of here. It's maybe an epidemic going on. So you're right. It's too much going. Like, it's always something every, every day. Before we go to break, because you did bring up Tiger Woods,

and I did want to give the update on that because we did talk about him. So he's actually going to be leaving the U.S. to go to an international rehab. It was actually revealed when he did get pulled over and talked to the cops. He was on the phone with the president. That's what he said. So he told them that basically he was just talking to the president, which is interesting to me because his girlfriend now is the president's ex-wife. So everybody is just everybody, everybody, this is why mental health days are important, I think.

He was talking to what president? What president was he talking about? The president that we have now. 45, 47. The president that we have now. You won't even say. say his name, stat? President Trump, if that's

who you call your president. You know, the president we have now. It ain't about it. I call on my president. It's whoever the president is. Yes. But I think it's interesting that you can't even say his name. Is that a Florida thing?

Definitely not a Florida thing. No, that's a me thing. That's a me thing. But no, I just thought that was interesting that he called him, given. But, you know, like I said, Are you saying that he wasn't on the phone with the president? No, I'm just like, why would, well, now I'm thinking about it.

Because I'm like, why would that be your first call? But then it's like, obviously that's your first call because you need help. But then given that your girlfriend, that's his, her ex-husband, that wouldn't still be my first call. Does that make sense? I know. I totally get where you're coming from, but you got to look at both sides because it's like, yo, call your ex-nigger. You know, get me out this shit real quick.

Yeah, out of this shit. Call this shit because this is about the sixth time I got caught. So only this nigga can probably get me out this shit at this point. You know, Trump don't give a fuck. But I told you about fucking with them niggas. Let me see what I can do. Listen, I don't see nothing wrong with it. If you could try it, why not try it?

I don't think that. See, that's the thing about, well, at least me. I can't speak for everybody. I wish I could have great relationships with the people I broke up with. My shit never end good. And it don't be me. I was, hey, what's up? I'm going to do that.

I don't know. My ex-relationships end good. Imagine I could call one of my ex-joint something like, yo, I know your nigger run the country and all that. I don't know. That's crazy, though. Yo, if we're cool, why not? You moved on in life?

I moved on in life. I'm in trouble. Yo, do me this favor, man. See what your nigger could do, man. I don't see nothing wrong with that. Imagine how powerful that is If somebody, if a cop pull you over, he's giving you the runaround

And you say, man, you want to speak to Trump? Yeah. Imagine what that does to the ticket. You want to finish writing a ticket, man, or you want to go and enjoy your night, man. He goes to Trump. Hey, what office am I speaking to it? I got you on speakerphone.

Go ahead and say hello. Yeah. That's really why I brought it up because the fact that he can do that It's like, wow. You think they're still writing tickets? Ain't no way in the world he called. He drunk, flipped the car.

Hey, Trump, what up? Trump got other problems right now. Y'all really believe that thing was on the phone. No, what I'm saying is, I don't know if he was high or not high, but if it is real. I'm sorry, allegedly. I'm sorry, allegedly. Yeah, if it was real, I'm not mad at it.

I'm not mad. Even if it ain't real, I'm not mad at the bluff. I get that. If you get away with it, get away with it. I'm out at the bluff. Yeah. Because it was, and his audio was heard on the police video, so he said, thank you so much.

All right, you got it by. And then he told the cop, I was just talking to the president. So can't verify it, but that's what was heard. That's what was said. But I thought it was interesting. Capping on the president would be crazy. And with the body arm, what they call it,

the body cam, cause that's a crazy cap. But what's he going to say? Like, I didn't say that. Let me say one thing for sure. If anybody going to let us know if it's true or not, Trump will. Trump, I did not talk to Tiger. He seemed a little impaired. He was like, Trump is not going to let that slide.

Or he'll tell him, yeah, I have to tell Tiger, you have to go in. You know what I'm saying? Trump will let you know if they come across his table and press coffers. A lot of things going on. But, I mean, if Tiger can make the call and it worked, we'll see. we'll see what happens. Everything is still a holding. We don't know.

I want to see what Trump say, because to Larry's point, nigger might have been super high. Because I thought about that too, but we just started on another direction. I can't wait till these acts about it because he's going to let you know, yeah, you and they.

Yeah. Okay, so now on to basketball, Tatum is back. The Celtics actually beat the heat. 147 and 129. Jason Tatum scored 25 points, 18 rebounds, and 11 assists. But we have our question.

of the day. So if you had to go, Jason Tatum versus Anthony Edwards, win both healthy, Mace. Who would you take for the next five years? Yeah, I think when it comes to this, this is a hard one. Pause, for real, because I love both of these guys. I know a lot of times I may joke, may come up with different things when it come to Tatum, but I really, really appreciate his gift to the game, his drive towards the game. I think he's a phenomenal talent. But my preference, my preference, Mason Bethlehemper preference, would be Anthony Edwards. I like the explosiveness. I like taking over the game.

You know, when the game is on the line, I want the ball in the hands of a person that's going to do something that's going to be historic. And I think that leans more towards Anthony Edwards when it comes to my preference and my liking. not, you know, not just because he's from a land to I know people think that's why I'm seeing it. But, you know, shout-outs to them both. But for me, I would go with Anthony Edwards. But I'm not mad. I know Killer probably is going to go with Tatum.

You know, he normally favors Tatum. So, and I normally favors Jalen Brown. So Tatum is right there in that equation. But for me, I would go with Anthony Edwards. And that's just, you know, but again, I'm not mad if you go with Tatum. Tatum gets one more. He's officially a member of Title Town.

This is a great question. This is actually a really, really tough question. We talk about Anthony Edwards. When you think about Ant Man, right, just the elevation of him since he's been the NBA. People forget that he was the number one pick. And I remember people like, why y'all getting the nigger from Georgia? I forget who else was coming out that year, but they was wondering why they were going with Anthony Edwards.

And when you think of it, man, you think of how sensationally he is coming to the basket, the will to win, the defense event, but you're not even thinking about how he led the NBA last year in three-point shots. You know, sin thought I was lying. But you mean Anthony Edwards led the league in three-point shots? He led the league last year in three-point shots.

and we think about not think about we often talk about if he had a second fiddle if he had that second person to go to no we say it can be Julius Randall it isn't Devin Tenzo

it isn't Rudy Gobert who is it right now I said all that to say that my answer is Jason Taylor because I want to make sure I give Annish flowers I think Anne's sensational because think about this if Aunt had a Jalen Brown

where would they be? Where's his Jalen Brown? And that's what we've been talking about week after week after week after week that he doesn't have a Jalen Brown. If he had a Jalen Brown, we don't know what the fuck would be going on with Minnesota.

They might fuck around and break Golden State's record if he had a Jalen Brown. But he doesn't have a Jalen Brown. But I think that we tend to forget about yesterday I'm talking about as America. Jason Tatum outside of this year because he's been injured.

has been first team on NBA four years in a row. So since 2021 to 2025, Jason Taylor's first team on NBA every year. Anthony Edwards is not that yet, and at the Mesa's point, he's also a champion. I think Anthony Edwards is there, but he needs his Jalen Brown as well. Great, great, great take.

And then also, unfortunately, for Ant Man, because of his injury, he's actually not eligible to receive any of the postseason and rewards because now he won't make that 65 game minimum. That has also been a topic of discussion just back and forth. Is it worth it? Is it not? But we're seeing how it's going to turn out for everybody. So let us know in the comments down below who y'all would choose Jason Tatum or Anthony Edwards. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.