IT IS WHAT IT IS - WE CALLING HIM HAT-TRICK MAHOMES FROM NOW ON & WEEK 4 NFL RECAP WITH MICHAEL IRVIN

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

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So, we doing here, hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in the hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion, hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he counting money, he said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches, welcome man I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga, black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.

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Yo what's up Mike? What up killer? Murder what up man? Mike how you doing man? Chilling man. I'm doing great guys. Mike had a good week so he's smiling and shit. Yeah he getting carried away on the field. Mike, what are you doing out there, Mike? What are you actually doing out there?

I turn on the TV, I see them carrying you out. What's really going on? Hold on, murder, murder, murder, murder. Hold on real quick, hold on. We got some video courtesy of 305 Sports of Mike at the game. Can we go to the video real quick hold on we got some video courtesy of 305 sports of Mike at the game we go to the video real quick Nick You're never out of a game, you're never out of a play, you just keep playing and the magic finds a way to show a stout pants. they know now they know now they know now huh Mike they know now, that was it guys. Let me tell you something man. That was an incredible moment.

You know, you guys hear it all the time man when people talk about retiring and walking away and what you miss, you know, you miss that camaraderie being, you know, with the guys man to be just to have that kind of hype again. Now, when I got back to my hotel room, they got me. I was hurting so like a mother, brother. I was like, god, why my back hurt? Why my knees hurt? What's going on?

I didn't play none, but I was hot, dog. I was trying to let them young dudes know. Honestly, man, honestly. And you don't see it this way. But I was stressing right here right now You must make the decision how you're going to live the rest of your life Are you going to be a winner or you're going to always come up short?

this is what this game is about because they Sometimes our times young men they just see it as a game. And you gotta make it applicable to game of life. If you say no way am I losing this game, you're going to be saying no way am I losing in life. Man, I was trying to put it in them boys' spirit. And they went out and showed out and played, man. I was so excited, I was so happy, and then I was so exhausted afterwards. Boy, it was a great weekend.

Mike, you look like the offensive coordinator out there. That's what it was given. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of times I caught myself, right? Dude, I was literally midfield talking to the team. The damn head coach looking at me like, what the fuck are you doing? team. The damn head coach looking at me like what the fuck are you doing? You got the team. I'm sorry what the hell is going on. You get the team. Let me get out of this huddle man. But we always talk about it at my end. We always talk about family. We always talk about all of us are always available to try to help the other dudes man. And afterwards I went over by Edwin's place. I had never gone to Ed's little spot one.

Ed's got a little one gentleman's club in Miami. I confess I've never been there. But when we got a big win like that, then Mike should be able to go. So I went on by that. You don't have to talk with nobody. What's that? What goes on in there? Hey, listen, you know, it it's just he's a businessman. He has

great business going on. It's a beautiful spot. It really is a beautiful spot here. Yeah, great business going on. It's a beautiful spot. It really is a beautiful spot here. Great business man. Kill us. What goes on in it? Oh, was there with him. Business of football? I was just there with my old teammates, man. I was just there with my old teammates, man. We just vibing, man, just vibing. That's what that was.

It was a good time. We had a good time. Well, Mike, I'm glad you had a great weekend. I actually want to talk about that game just a little bit more. So of course, Miami is now 5-0 after beating Virginia Tech 38 to 34. A lot of people are turning their heads about the game-winning Hail Mary that was

overturned. They feel like that was a controversial call. What did you think of the outcome and then just overall the energy at the game since you were there on the field? The energy was incredible and it was it was really electrifying. We'd be talking about trying to create that again, that old orange bowl scene at Hard Rock Stadium. And that was, I'm promising you, that was as close as we've ever gotten in all of these years, trying to recreate that thing that we had before. That was as palatable. And honestly, that baby, the way it went down really ties you in more because we thought the game was over. And then first, it was that first flag, that first pass interference that brought back Saze of Ohio State.

I was like, that dude, he must, because remember Ohio Ohio State they took a championship from us with that late last second pass interference flag that came out 35 minutes and 22 seconds after the damn play so I thought they were doing the same thing here and then when we hit the ball I saw the ball I knew the ball hit the ground I knew he fell on top of a dude that was already out of bounds. I'm like, what are we doing? Why do you have your hands up? Like you taking your damn deodorant. Put your hands down. You ain't taking them. That ain't no touchdown. What are you doing? So, you know, so after watching it, dude, it was all that, you know, we were way up here. The stadium went crazy.

And then everybody said, hold on, we you remember that Ohio State stuff and here we go again and when that dude put his arms up I started walking to the locker room I didn't want the people to see I was crying I was going off on out of there man with my dignity I walked to the locker room and then they flip that thing back over and all as I was walking hurt crying I heard the crowd go crazy I said no God you finally gonna do it the right thing just do the right thing they declared us whether they said he refers that thing so you really got two great celebrations out of it and I'm

telling you it locked us back in. Right now in Miami, think about this, the Dolphins, without two aren't doing well. Gators, Florida Seminoles, all of it's down. Everything is down. Except for you. That arrow is the only arrow pointing up. So Miami gets the own Miami.

You know what I'm saying? It's just a beautiful thing right now. Ah, he had to say they gave us that. They are. Everything in Miami. Oh man. All of Florida. All of Florida except for you is down.

So you don't have any of to you. It's down. So you know how that is, boy. We happy right now. Yeah. I mean, when it comes to this game, it was so many things that I took away from this that I said that, you know, the Hokies, how you say it, the Hokies? Yeah. They should not be mad with anybody but themselves. There was too many

Opportunities put them to win this game I mean is a plethora of plays that they missed out on you go back to the fumble I mean that they Miami lost the fumble they had he threw two interceptions They had enough opportunities to win this game I mean even when I wrote down another thing that happened when, when, when these guys are, are in this game and, and they, and they call in these plays, even the coach, when he choose not to run the clock down, these are all psychological errors that has nothing to do with the other team.

And, and I just think this is one of those games when they look back at it, they could, they could say what they want about the last play, but they had several plays coming up to this, even in the first half, they had plays that you look back and say that play will come back to hurt them. And I think that's what it is. It's just not capitalizing. Like you said, Mike, not realizing that this is your moment. A lot of times with young players there and young people period,

they're thinking about, oh, I got time. You don't always have time. This is your time. If you're in it now, pause, this is your time and you are to make the most of your time now. Well said. Okay, so now let's discuss Colorado. So Colorado smoked UCF 48 to 21.

A video went viral of Shador and Travis Hunter brushing off Cam Newton during pregame warmups. What did you guys think of that interaction with Cam Newton? And then how do you guys feel about Colorado's win, Mike? Well, you know, I saw that, you know. I saw that, and then that, you know. Mike, this goes back to the young guy saying, this is my moment. So I appreciate that. Go ahead, Mike, it's your go.

No, no, no, but you're right, though. And also, guys, now, once you use these platforms to try to climb on people back, and I'm not saying that's what Cam does, but people do that. You know, ride Colorado players and come out with these comments and then everybody tune in and give you the clicks. Now you go out on the field and you dude not heard that same stuff. You know I don't you know I I didn't know if there was something going on between those guys. If Cam had said something and those guys had heard it or something like that. You know I saw where I think it was who was it said

something about he wasn't a Travis wasn't that great of a receiver, you know, he should speak to DB Richard Sherman, I saw with Travis kind of, you know, clap back at that say, hey, man, don't talk about me, just let me play football. You see what I'm saying? So so so now it's changed and you hear things and if, and if these guys, I guess if they sound like I think you're saying things out of not out of your profession, but out of your person Then that's when they start. I guess giving you the big shot. See I don't do that So you know always say what's up? Oh, GLA? What's up?

Why don't you write on in that thing with him, you know, cuz I want to be out there anyway They're but a big kid. I just want to be a part of it. So you know, I don't know what was that, man. That was strange. That was strange, especially after Kam had that last problem with that young kid. Remember? At Kam, going back and forth and, you know,

just having those issues like that with young players. That's bothersome. Yeah, I mean, when you look at this type of player, he, he had, he caught nine passes for 89 yards and a touchdown. The kid is simply balling when we talking about Hunter. So that, that, that comment is unmerited. And when I heard Cam Newton speak, even on another take about when it came down to to arm should door, he made it seems as if should door hasn't beat anybody. He said, what? When can we really count on?

And I want to, I want to, I wish I had the clip in front of me, but he kept emphasizing what, what game has your door won that he could really put some stake in and say, this is a huge win. And he was basically saying he doesn't have any. I mean, from my vantage point, that's what Ken was saying. So I could see Shador definitely being irate with that or feeling a kind of way about that. And if you talk crazy, then when you show up, people can treat you crazy back because now you're in their element whereas before you were saying that from your platform.

Now you're on my platform. And I think that's what, what we can really chalk that up to killer. Yeah. But, but, but, but first of all, all can't can't measure that man on that because he doesn't make the damn sketch he's got to do with the sketch all he got to do oh he's doing his plan what's in front of him and putting up numbers and playing in a way in which they got him in the Heisman Trophy Park. So I don't know how you can ever go at him and say well you ain't playing nobody. This is

why I always say I'm gonna measure mental distance traffic. Okay I'm not gonna talk about who you're not playing. I'm gonna talk about I want to talk about where the hell was Colorado before you got there? Where was that program before they got there? And when I see the distance they have traveled, Colorado? Man, stop. Stop. How can you find any fault in anything wrong with what he has done? He doesn't make that damn schedule. That's the kind of stuff that that that yeah when you see stuff like that people start taking it you're not that that's not a professional comment that's that they take that as a personal comment because he got made the schedule. Yeah he wasn't he wasn't um and I'm saying this as an objective voice I'm just bringing the comments to the table. I know, I know.

I actually love Shador, and he's one of my favorite players in college football. And what I was saying was that, Cam is basically saying, he doesn't win against the good teams. That's what he was basically saying. And he also came out and said, well, or they were talking about how when he was at Auburn,

Auburn wasn't a big school. Nobody had them pick the win and he took them all the way to the championship and won it. So he was definitely making that scenario. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I can't go no farther than that. My ears gonna fall off my ear, stop. I'm just telling you what he said.

I don't, I don't have a horse in the said. I don't play polo Mike What listen listen listen? door went to To the brothers to the brothers. He had to pull the brothers up before he got out here Y'all gotta stop it. Damn you went to Auburn. Are you joking? Let's go. Come on man. Y'all gotta stop it. Cam, you went to Auburn. Are you joking? Let's go, come on, man. Y'all stop. I'm just putting it out there so you can speak to him

because I don't have the football cache. They talked about that yet. I'm in title town. I really don't talk about these kind of issues. So I was thinking maybe I give this issue to you and you could clear it up because I really talk to champions. I really don't talk about this kind of stuff cam but

Michael urban, can you? Actually, you actually we actually have a real champion on the show And it steps to this thing. And it steps to it. It steps to it. It steps to it. You gotta make everybody. Yo, Mike, see, Kim's trying to side step me. Kim, Kim, like we was talking about before, that's the past.

We're talking about now. I'm the expert now. We're not talking about 88, Kim. Y'all been talking for nine minutes. I've been saying like, I say, murder, when you win, I win. When stat wins, I win. Matter of fact, should I get more footage? Matter of fact, let's go to more footage.

Let's go to more footage. Nick, since Mace wants to do this, I was just chilling. Nick, give me a Is What It it is, flashback, please. On the next episode of It Is What It Is. Think they can ball and all the ballers think they can. Stat baby, stat baby, stat baby, come here, come here. This my stat baby right here, we call her stat baby. She got all the stats.

Yeah, she got, she works for me only, you can't use her, you know what I mean? This is Stab Baby. When you get a chance, come back and tell me you done knucklehead ass niggas that played for the Raiders, that ran over some people and killed somebody driving. Yeah. That fucked up they life because they tried to put an album out after they got out the NFL like two years ago, all right? All right.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Please don't ask her to do shit for you because she's not. Please don't actually do shit Baby I need you to find the violent athlete You gotta make a man Hey check out the next episode of It Is What It Is. Nick Nick give me a close-up. Time out man. Time out. Go ahead Mike.

I thought you was going to say something. I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y'all man, I told y for all. Now, Cam got to take his commentary from that approach and say that young dude doing well, you know, he started, Cam started something, all those black quarterbacks started something and we're seeing a plethora of African American quarterbacks now getting the bag 50, 60 million a year. And yeah, Sidor's going to be next. Shido is going to get one of those Kim you played a part in this don't try to hatch it down at least now That's what's door saying. I understand that part. I understand that part. So yeah, you're absolutely right Kim You got to be a part you're part of it Sell it from that place and being a part of it then they will probably give some doubt when they see them at the game. The whole thing is my opinion on this particular situation is just new.

It's new people who talk about football because of technology, the internet, social media, etc. to where back in the days when you played Mike even after you played you had television, regular television, you had television regular television You had only a certain amount of people who could give their opinion a smartphone It's like an asshole cause everybody got one if you got the smartphone you can have an opinion That's just the way it goes and some people are over opinionated like Cam Newton He said something about me and mace before he was like them guys don't know football this that and the third because our show is popping. And then he calls me and we had a great conversation. Me and

Cam had a good, we had a really, really good conversation. But when you give these opinions, me and me Mace was talking about it a few episodes ago. These college players got money now so they ain't got to kiss your ass. They talk different. Do you know how they used to like, well, I'm just trying to provide the best for my football team, and be clean cut. And some of them still are clean cut. But when you talk shit about niggas, and then you go try to go give them a five,

two days later, niggas ain't fucking with you. Like that shit that Mase was talking about, he's right. Cam Newton basically was saying, yo, stop making comparisons to me and Shadour. That's what he was saying. You can't compare him to me because he ain't played nobody. That was two days before the game, not interview, two days. So you say that two days before the game, don't compare him to me. He ain't played nobody. And then you pull up like, yo, what's up? Nigga like, yo, fuck out of here. Same thing. Travis Hunter seen him. Travis Hunter ain't

give him a five. Travis Hunter waved him off. Then what Travis Hunter did was also what you talked about Mike, he said that uh, Travis Hunter, Richard Sherman said that Travis Hunter was a bland receiver. Travis Hunter came to his shirt with a bland shirt on. His shirt said bland when he came out. That's the Richard Sherman. He ain't we wasn't wearing no bland shirt before that came out hit the Heisman on niggas after he scored. That's the Q Cam Newton. No he's throwing up y'all throw shots we throw shots back we just get more we get more money than you was at our age. So at the end of the day stop talking and thinking niggas gonna forget what you say when you talk. Same way like I just told you, he said something about me and Marece, what we talk.

Like a few niggas wanna talk to me after they say some slick shit and I ain't with the secret conversations. So they could be like, oh yeah, we talk to niggas, da da da da da. Nah, stick to what you said, bro. I don't wanna talk to you. I'm not even gonna name some niggas last week

that tried to call niggas after they said some slick shit about niggas. And I'm not going to even say the middleman they called because they don't know. But niggas said some slick shit about our show. And then I said some slick shit about them. Then they tried to have a conversation and call me. No, come on the show. Matter of fact, if you want to say what you got to say, say it live on our show. I don't want to have the secret conversations because you already said what you said in public. Then you want to say what you gotta say say it live on our show I don't want to have the secret conversations because you already said what you said in public then you want to have a secret conversation be like oh no it's all good it's not all good stop talking about niggas and think niggas is gonna speak to you after you was talking crazy that's just that

so Kim Newton I dig that he went to the game and all that but if you think he's gonna be friendly they not because they they listen to what you said Last thing I say at this door at the podium said he's not fucking with nobody who was talking shit about him. He said he remembers he's a Jackson State and he wasn't able to do it in Division one. Then when he came to Division one and started smoking because he said he don't forget nothing since junior high school. So if you talked about him in junior high school, he remembers. That's what he said exactly after the game Me I remember everything so basically I'm giving all y'all niggas a heads up not nobody on the show I'm talking about if you say so slick about certain people like myself and I know Mace is worse than me

Shit doors worse than me killer See the thing about it is this, and I don't know Cam Newton personally, some niggas just like to be like, yo, don't worry about that. You know, I get my commentating on the game. Nah, I don't wanna fuck with you, period, after that. I don't fuck with niggas, period.

That's just the way some niggas is. It don't matter if you say something good later, they not jacking it. So I'm just giving people Not necessarily us because me and like I said no mace Once I said I really don't care some people Say some people say they regret it. I said and forget it I don't care what you think after I say I said and that's just that I stand on what I say

I don't really also for me though Right for me though is what spirit did I hear you say it in? I do I can tell when that's some real that's animosity do that. Yeah, well, that's jealousy, nigga That's what that is. Yeah Mike I'm looking for it again Mike looking for it. Say it again Mike. Say it again Mike. That's the Mike I'm looking for. So right, like that's what I'm saying though dawg. Come on we gotta be real with this man. If you if you're talking from a professional place. If you say hey man, man Mike I just started getting played well man he dropped three balls. I go look on him, I dropped three damn

balls man I dropped three balls. I can't be harder than you. Yeah, you know you were speaking Professionally and that is what's the reality. That was the reality But when you start talking all this no man that dude ain't nothing like I was man. I watched all that Not now you're making it personal now. You mean he hadn't played anybody now. You're making it personal Yeah, you haven't beat nobody that's personal when you went to the blend college before you went to Auburn Auburn oh we got man Auburn got all that thoroughbred athletes sitting sitting sitting in the couches they're gonna pull a few out the couches like old quarters you know what I mean like starting at Auburn is like starting

that Jackson State that's all hell of a difference, you see? That's what I'm talking about with distance travel. But just talk the game, man. And don't make it personal about these young dudes. Be happy for these young dudes. You are part of the steps to get it to where it is, so you're part of what they're standing on. Just take it like that and get your flowers.

For sure, yeah. And listen, the last thing I'll say is real quick. The last two times I see kids flip on him at his own camp, they jumped them last time at his own camp. Niggas jumped them at your camp. You got to come be like, I just think that's key what you said, my communication, especially from former All-Star or Superstar or Pro Bowl athletes such as football players as yourself. They think you guys are hating, you know what I'm saying? So, their energy on the field is much, much like, I don't want to say appreciated because I don't really care about Miami like that, but people need to see that, you know what I'm saying?

Like, they need to see that you guys are supporting instead of always hating. But the other side of the coin is this. Is that... And I really... Like I said, I don't like patting my show on the back like that. But we kinda changed the landscape of how niggas is talking. I think some niggas ain't even like that. I think some niggas just want to jump out the window and be like, oh, niggas is talking like that now? Fuck it.

Let me just say some wild shit. And that ain't even really their personality to say anything crazy. So now they like, oh, this is what's bringing in the money, or this is what people are watching, or this guy in the third. Because same thing Cam Newton said about our show. He was basically like, Cam and Mace don't know football, but people would rather watch them. Like, yo, my niggas. So, you're throwing shots at us, but then at the same time, try to give us credit. And you know what I'm saying?

So we had, like I said, I want to sit and talk about Cam Newton, because we talked after that and I usually don't talk to niggas after that. But the end of the day, we're not saying we're the most knowledgeable, but we sit here and study what we need to study. We're super knowledgeable on basketball, but what makes us smart is that we bring in an OJ Simpson. We bring in a Michael Irvin who has more knowledge than us. And that makes us smart for doing that. And we need to compete with you every week to make sure we got our shit together. That's why Mase is talking to you crazy. Cause his record is better than yours

when he's picking the players. That's the killer I know. Come home killer. Come home killer. That's my nigga right there. Let's go killer. That's my nigga right there. He's back, he's back.

You know what I said too? Write along that same line. Write along that same line. You're right, Cam. Let me tell you. I say this. Them damn jokers, whose job is to handicap games, man, y'all

should be the same to yourselves. They had Central Florida win it by 14 and a half points. Now, now, now, I think all of you jokers that came up with that number, you ought to check yourself when you put two brush your teeth and look at yourself in the mirror. Because you let your hate and disdain for Dion really ruin your job. You let a lot of people down.

Yeah. A lot of people lost a lot of money on listening to y'all. I think when you got, I say when they got home that night, they did such a poor job. You get home, and you try, you know, you're in bed, and you try to roll over and touch your woman, she ought to tell you, boy, don't you touch me after all them people you messed up today. Don't you even touch me.

You got to put your hate for Dion down and do your damn job. Stop messing up. That's all I'm saying. I'm gonna let that one go. There you go. Well, great points from all of you guys. And then Mike, to your point, it really does stem from jealousy. That's why a lot of the people act the way they do. And then Camden Mace, to you guys' point, you guys show then Mike, to your point, it really does stem from jealousy. That's why a lot of the people act the way they do. And then Cam and Mase, to you guys' point, you guys show authenticity,

which we don't see a lot of nowadays. So just the fact that you guys are still remaining in the culture, still, you know, talking to people, even somebody like me, right? Like I, back to the video clip, like, nobody knew who I was, what I was doing. You guys kind of let me be part of something that you guys were building.

Like that is not seen often. So it's just a really cool Position to be in a cool thing to see because we're not seeing that nowadays So I think that's what a lot of people love about the show what you guys do and then Mike your support Baby, you're right. Especially us doing it doing it as brothers as people, you know what I mean? But what do they say? We can't work together. We can't do nothing together. You know what I mean? That's one thing I'm gonna tell you, and then God's gonna tell me.

Before we go to the next topic, let me ask you a question, and I know you're super professional, but I would like your super duper honest opinion right now. You worked a lot of places, but I'm gonna ask you about working last year with Skip. How was that? You know, honestly, Cam, I have a great time with skip man's kill but that

uh... honestly kind of do that one of the list of retail mean that somebody's find somebody find it do funny somebody find that you find it i want to find out okay let me go see let me go find out what i first started working at it's p n i was going russ number me go find out when I first started working at ESPN I was with Russ Numba

everybody told me he's so prejudiced he this he that cuz you know they grabbed that from the radio shows and everything and I was like okay okay but let me make my own assessment you know he's coming with baggage I'm coming with some baggage I hope he doesn't make me all my baggage I got some stuff too you know what I'm coming with some baggage. I hope he doesn't make me all my baggage. I got some stuff, too You know what I'm saying? But but got to know one of the best dudes I've ever gotten to know man I really enjoy Sharing and sitting and talking with them skip skip skip skip a lot There's a lot people don't know about skill and how much skip has helped even us the brothers, you know And they don't know about it. don't talk about it I just think he deserves a little better than what he had but I

but I enjoyed it man I enjoy work with him I can learn from anybody I can learn from everybody and I try to do that you know when he's to well he's precious I said well if I if I'm gonna be nasty to him then don't I tell him that was okay for him to be that his whole life if that's what you're saying He was but if I get in and maybe show him something different, maybe then he'll say Oh shit, I spent my whole life acting this way So I just think differently than there most people, you know, we weren't always just throw things away I want to try to see if there's some salvaging in it. That's why

I think skip was being mad nice to y'all because how Rudy's being the Shannon and he had to tone that shit down That nigga told Shannon put his glasses back on and Shannon said he left Fox Because he gave Tom Brady criticism and then skip lost a good component and he was like, let me get all the niggas I could get this nigga niggas Michael Irvin Richard Sherman little Wayne I'm a good component and he was like, let me get all the niggas I could get this nigga niggas. Michael Irvin, Richard Sherman, Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne. Yeah. I'm with the nigga niggas

to show niggas. You gotta chill. You gotta chill. We need, we need to bring on our show skipper do good with us Tell skip may said Said I'll bring skillful. I'll bring people and y'all the lights kill girls I'm telling you I believe that we need skip on the show. I don't know what happened with skill and Shannon I've heard a lot of things, you know It was loud I know I heard a lot of backdoor things. I just want to see skipping a fitted hat

I heard a lot of backdoor things. I just want to see Skip in a fitted hat or a durag. When Skip come on here, I need Skip to wear a durag one time. That's it. We pay him whatever he want. He got come on here and wear a durag or a fitted hat. I'm for it. You know what? The first person I talked to when they called me was Troy.

Because you know, him and Troy, they were supposed to have an issue. That's the first person I sat down with and asked Troy about it. And Troy was like, man, people don't know it. But Skip and I talk on the phone, we text each other. So you know, I said, okay, let me go and explore this. But yeah, that was an me go and explore this. But yeah, yeah, that would that was that was an interesting an interesting Year working with him Skippers skip don't got a show no more Mike

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I ain't got no issue with that. You know, I'm not even gonna let that rile me up. Yeah, Tom Brady's better than me at quarterback. But he better not bring his ass out there wide receiver. I would've said that. I would've let that go. I would've let that go. Oh, man.

Well, we'd love to see Skip on the show. We're actually gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed.

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I'm dark skinned! What the fuck? And then like, look at your beard. What the fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathing, all of that.

Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. It's only one way to handle that. Pink horsepower. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No. Php it works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back.

Now, let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Today, the Dolphins will play the Titans. Underdog has Will Levis at 194 and a half passing yards. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? Absolutely, Paul is lower. Dang. Okay, Cam?

How many? 194 and a half passing yards for Will Levis. Low. Okay, Tyreek Hills at 54 and a half rushing and receiving yards. Do you have him higher or lower cam? Damn Word right that's fucked up two out. They just they're doing Tyreek under 60

I'm gonna give them higher. I think he'll get some yak Yeah, come on. They playing around. It's it's a guy got tackled by four cops. Of course he gonna get higher than that. And then Jalen Waddle's at 36 and a half receiving yards. Do you have a higher lower base? Higher. I'm going higher. Shout out to Rick Hill was just playing around. Hey, and then can for Jalen Waddle, 36 and a half receiving yards. Why was you playing Macy?

They get tackled by four police. No, I'm saying, I'm saying. Just so he don't take it the wrong way because they're a Florida boy, you know, we Florida. Cam, you wouldn't understand this. This is a Florida thing, you know? Me just trying to make, keep things clear, Florida. Actually, I'm actually here, Florida, actually.

Actually, I have a residency here. You have a residency here, Florida? Clear actually I'm actually a Florida actually actually ever residency Where you at is where you from Take a remix. He reversed it. I seen him get tackled by four guys. That guy up here bust they ass. Did your thing that Greek that game Tyree. I'm gonna go lower though. Okay. If you guys like these picks remember you always get a free pick. So if you're not already on underdog make sure to sign up now and you can make your picks too. So we're gonna talk about the Steelers.

They got their first loss of the season. From the Colts losing 27 to 24, what did you guys overall think of that game and then the way that the Steelers finished, Mike? Well, I thought the Steelers were gonna to beat the Coast when they had Anthony Richardson in, you know, because it fit perfectly for that. They know how to stop that quarterback from running. They could throw so many different defenses at him and confuse him.

But when that old ass head came off the bench, who had been playing the Ravens every year of his life, Joe Flacco, he was cutting them up. That had been playing the Steelers every day of his life while he was playing in Baltimore. He was cutting up that squad today. He was cutting the Steelers up, man. It reminds me of what he looked like. Remember when he took over for Cleveland last year? Yeah. And De'Shawn Watson got him to go over Cleveland and they went on the run. And I was like this is the difference between

the old quarterback and the young quarterback. See the old quarterback know where to go with the ball and the young quarterback is learning where to go with the football and when you get the old quarterback everybody raised their level of play because all the things and all the opportunities that they missed with that young joker they know now they'll get to play and and and they played well man certainly caught Pittsburgh off guard and won that game but that's the Joe Flacco game right there. Yeah, I mean, we gotta start putting some respect on Flacco's name.

He is the 2023 comeback player of the year. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm ready to start wearing a Flacco jersey. Don't be surprised I come in here with a Flacco jersey. It's comeback season pause. And I'm saying this because of stat that if you can get the camera on stat But use my voice put the camera on stat, but use my voice Stat how do y'all let some old man come in here and beat y'all with all this hype about the Steelers and Mike

Tomlin and you got Justin Fields, you got Sierra, y'all got everything there. You got music, you got the best quarterback, you got, I mean, not the best quarterback, but you know, the best coach in America's team. Get beat by America's senior citizen. It's crazy. citizen is crazy. This is crazy.

This is crazy hearing this and I can't say anything. Sucks. Kim, she told me it's lit, it's lit, we three and oh. It's still lit. She came in here real somber today. She had on her studious glasses today. She's ready somber today. She had on a studious glassy today. She's ready to learn now. I mean, overall, my thoughts, this was just a frustrating game.

I mean, you can't win them all even down to the final seconds. I mean, we had the opportunity to tie the game and go into overtime. We never called a timeout. I think that was a poor coaching decision. I mean, the Colts just played better. They had more points starting off early on, so they just were the better team. You going against Tomlin now?

I didn't say I'm going against him. I just said I didn't like the decision that he made with the final second. There was a lot of opportunity there, and I didn't feel like we executed. At the end of the day, we play the Cowboys next. Shout out Mike, but it's war. This was just not the best game.

It happens, but it's still black and yellow. Put the camera on white bread real quick. Yeah. Yo, man. Nobody got a jersey on today. Nobody got on Steeler today, man. We all right, man. We all right, man. Shades on.

We all right. Three in one. We all right. We still in first. We still in first to that North, though. Yeah. Where's that dumbass Pittsburgh Steeler jersey? Now you got on Washington Commanders.

I'm going to have it on next week after the Cowboys. Trust me. Trust me. You know what? I'm going to have it on next week after the Cowboys. Trust me. I'm going to have it on next week after the Cowboys, trust me. Trust me. You don't have that shit on today. Staddle got on her shit.

Two things real quick. One thing is first is Richardson, he's not durable. I don't know, this is his second year in a row. It's only week four he's hurt. I'm not sure if it's gonna last till next week, but he doesn't seem to be durable. And that's a concern. So I think it's a great pickup for the Colts to have Flacco. I've been pumping Flacco for since last season. I know one thing for sure, two things for certain. I know they got Jameis Winston on the bench in Cleveland, but I sure know they wish that they have Flacco

that the way Deshaun Watson has been playing. I know we probably won't get to that game today. But having Flacco on the bench for the Cleveland Brails would be a much better security blanket for James, than James Winston. No disrespect to James Winston. I think he's good, but he throws a lot of interceptions. But yeah, Flacco came in, he did what he's supposed to do. You're right, Statt, you did have a chance at the end of the game,

but a rookie made a rookie mistake. It was fourth and 10th, and he almost threw a pick. But it is what it is. He had great numbers. I'm not going to lie, his numbers was really, really good today. Threw over 350 yards, but the wind didn't go to Pittsburgh. And now you sitting here questioning Mike Tomlin is crazy. I just want to reinstate, I'm not questioning Mike Tomlin.

It didn't like a couple seconds. Right. But I like that Justin feels mounted to comeback guys. So the question has been can he play from behind? And he did now to come back They just couldn't finish. Oh, yes, Mike Mike. We gotta You gotta stop with this comeback shit cuz you tried to use that for Dallas last week when they almost tried to come back The comeback is when you come back and win

Rally to come back. No win. Yeah. Rally, rally, come back. No, they did not rally. Mike, you gotta stop that, Mike. You gotta stop with the almost come back shit. And you're right. And you're right. And you try to compare them to

Colorado. He's like, oh, yo, Dallas, we're taking a blue corner. My man is in Los Angeles. They did not come back. You did not rally or come back. And he tried to link them together, Kela.

You're talking about the 50-yard line. But that's the end of the comeback, right? Yeah, I was trying to pull some from here and put it together. But this is different this time. Now, you're right. You're right when it comes to Dallas. Ultimately, you didn't complete the comeback.

But it's different when it comes to Justin Fields because now he's a young quarterback and other teams are trying to determine Okay, are you a quarterback can only play with the lead? That means long as we have you handing the ball off and you're not turning the ball over and we're playing great defense We win game, but what happens if we go down 14-0? Case in point can he mount a comeback and I thought it was important to tell the rest of the world He didn't mount a comeback even though he lost that game because he's a young quarterback Still learning the game as opposed to that Prescott and the Cowboys. That's the difference between the mountain to come back

Yo murder do comebacks gotta age on them like somebody's come back yo back yo Intent he got intent working with the comeback pause and he got and he know how to bridge his stuff together So when he wanted to segue to something else, he goes and you're right and you're right to get to his next point Yeah, you gotta watch Mike for real. Yeah. We're watching you, Mike. We're on to you. So now let's discuss the Chiefs.

They remain undefeated after beating the Chargers 17 to 10. It's not officially confirmed, but wide receiver Rashid Rice was believed to suffer a season-ending ACL injury after Patrick Mahomes fell on him. How will this affect the Chiefs, Mike? And then, what did you think of their win? It was an incredible win for the Chiefs. I mean, the Chargers give them credit.

They played a pretty good football game. It was an incredible win for the Chiefs. I mean, the charges give them credit. They played a pretty good football game. I was shocked that when given the chance that they didn't kick their goal here at field goal, the Chiefs, and put their defense back out there, they had been playing pretty well, you know? But I thought myself, man, they lost Ray Rice, Travis Kelce showed up and started making some plays,

but Ray Rice had really taken over as that primary receiver for that football team. But Patrick Mahomes, you give him a week, he'll find somebody else. He'll make this team figure out a way to cover up that huge loss, that huge loss in Ray and Rashid Rice. You saw he hit Xavier Worthy for another deep ball.

I told you guys he's been working on that. Every Kansas he gets he's going to continue to work on that and he'll get better as the season goes on. But that was a big blow to the Kansas City Chiefs that they lost today. When losing their number one receiver. It was number one in receiving, number two I think in yards after catch. I mean he was playing some great football. That was great Mike. Let's start here Mike.

11 straight road victories in the AFC. Let's start right there. Let's start with six consecutive wins over the Chargers. Where else you wanna go? 100 starts for Hat-Tricked Mahomes. We're changing his name officially on it is what it is to Hat-Trick Mahomes. I like that dog. changing his name officially on it is what it is to hat trick my life that dog it doesn't matter how close the game is when you

got hat trick you know I'm saying so this is what I'm running with killer. I came and call him Patrick no more he's down 10. It doesn't matter. We was down 15. It wouldn't matter. We lost rice now. Kelsey is back in the play we're just a

team to beat and I do say we cuz it's we killer you know and I don't don't make me pull up a video cuz I got videos too now I was trying to wait till the middle you want me to pull it up now? I hope I hope I don't have to don't show your video cuz you ain't gonna like my video I'm just I'm just giving you a head up. You already started. Let's go I'm gonna save my videos cuz they're too they're too gruesome, you know You gave up your blueprint I load it up

Already know the blueprint. I'm never empty in the clip. Already. Yeah, but I want to say that, you know, our team is, is definitely looking like we're going to three Pete and I want to hear what you guys got to say. Cause we're in it. We're in the driver's seat right now. The Kansas City Chiefs are really, really fun to watch man. Like I love Andy Reid. I love Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey, even like when they're there 10 points, you don't think that

you don't think the game's over to me. They probably have to win one more, but they remind me of the, right now, watching them, of the football version of what was going on with Golden State when Golden State was going through their run. Even if you didn't like Golden State, you liked to watch basketball from what Golden State was doing. It was just fun to watch. And it's been plenty of nights where Steph Curry takes one dribble over half court and he shoots and you like, we just lost. Which is crazy to even think that. And that's the energy that I get when I see the Kansas City Chiefs. Like they were saying today, or you just said Mike, injury on top of injury on top of injury and then they still

find a way to pull it off. What I was wondering is this though Mike is that how you were telling me how the Jim Harbaugh was establishing the running game with the charges and Herbert was hurt the majority of this game and today he's trying to establish a pass game with an injured quarterback because their rushing game was almost non-existent. Why today try to shoot it out with Patrick Mahomes on an injured quarterback if they've been establishing this run game the first three games? Killa, I was... But remember what I told you, remember what I said.

They were establishing that run game and they were going to then add on to arm when everybody starts loading the box to stop the run. That's what they were doing today. They were loading the box to stop the run, which gave them some opportunities down the field. And remember, I say this brilliant because why do you come in, don't come in like everybody else is coming in So what I'm gonna get a quarterback and out play quarter. I'm out playing at the quarterback position Your ass gonna be out of job in a few years if you think that but if you come in here

Do what all balls do almost said? All right. right, I ain't messing with Hattrick like that. I'm gonna run the ball and try to keep him on the sideline as long as I can. That's really, look how he slowed that game down. That was, he's saying, I don't want to go and lose 45 to 42. I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose those games to Patrick Mahone. Let's slow this game down. Had Justin Herbert been healthy today, that might have been a different outcome. That game might have had a different outcome. But that's the question I'm asking.

Right. Look, you gave a great answer. They loaded the box cool. What up? I dig what you said. I'm not going to guess it. But don't go on the arm. The nigger was hurt since the first quarter. He looked off the field after they second drive like yo, the nigger was hurt since the beginning.

So I understand what you say, they loading the box, but they said I had an alternative game plan or put the backup QB in to get a better. Because it's like I don't know the next time I'm going to play Patrick Holmes. I want to play and play good. Everybody probably supposed to play the best, which is good, but you're hurt bro. He you probably not that good. You're definitely not as good as him when you're not hurt, but

you was hurt right and you what come on bro. I don't think that was smart today. I think they should have just pushed the issue with your running game and he wasn't his numbers wasn't bad. But like we said, it might have been a different dog if you hurt but he was hurt and that's what happened but but but but but the same game plan later in the year later in the year watch that same game plan and now we're with a healthy with a healthy quarterback now he starts making passes they starts collecting the

path or passes all around that third for court now you back up now you go back healthy quarterback. Now he starts making passes, they starts collecting the pad, throwing passes all around. That third, fourth court. Now you back up. Now you're gonna back up and say, oh, we gotta start playing coverage. Then you'll turn around and hand the ball back off to Darvin.

It's the chess match that you gotta play with Patrick Mahomes because he just, he's the best. He's the best out there. Yeah. Okay, so we've got time for about one more game. So let's actually discuss the best. He's the best out there. Okay, so we've got time for about one more game. So let's actually discuss the commanders. They beat the Cardinals 42 to 14 with rookie quarterback,

Jaden Daniels. Mike, how do you feel about the commander season so far? Damn scary. Damn scary. That's what I say. It's scary watching a man, watching his offense put up the points and put up the place that they're putting up. And the way they're doing it, it just seems like they're having so much fun.

You can clearly see, excuse me, you can clearly see the growth of this young man and his confidence and his team and everything he's doing every snap you see it every snap it just continues to grow and grow and grow it makes it scary i mean they feel and i'll tell you guys so winning championships it we see it as talent but it's also that feeling you get when you start saying man we got something and you start everybody starts to believe in good things are going to happen you see the excitement in practice that's kind of like what I see with the commanders right now and that's what Dan Quinn brings because that's his person that's his personality when Dan Quinn came to Dallas, the first thing he did, guys, was brought all the guys in

and played rap music. And I asked the guys, what did they hear in this rap music? No joke. So he's in there, they're vibing, going over lyrics and what lyrics mean. Now you know all these brothers on defense, they gonna go hunt for you if you up here go on and break it down, they rap music with them. Are you joking?

They gonna hunt for you, you know? So I knew when he went over there how those guys were going to respond to him and they are responding to him well, man. That's a scary team. Cause honestly, if anybody says it and speak the truth the truth will be right now they're the best looking team in the east in the nfc east and no yeah no more cowboys no more cowboys best looking team in the east right now no more cowboys right now they're

the best yeah yeah yeah they're the best yeah, they're the best right now. They're the best right now. Now, I'm being honest, but you know, we just in week four, got a long way to go, but right now they're the best. Would y'all be surprised if they come out of the NFC? Out of NFC? Each? Or the whole NFC?

The whole NFC inner the whole NFC NFC yeah, that'll be that boy that everybody seemed like everybody heard or not or under plan So, you know, it's look like the 49ers are completely in shambles Other than Purdy. So I mean that that's not far-fetched, you know Not if you keep seeing this kind of growth You see i'm saying makes you keep seeing this kind of growth then yeah That's what I was just talking about this thing here is a process to it And this kid and that team keep taking those little steps every day and getting better and better

So in the end it would be a hell of a hell of a year if they can come out of the East. They come out of the conference, but certainly right now it looks like they can certainly come out of the East and be. Yeah, I mean, killer, what you think? They're not gonna have no problem with the Bears. With the NFC East, maybe the whole NLC. I don't know about that. I mean, it's still early. They're exciting to watch. What people are not paying attention to

and we're gonna see tomorrow night is that the Seattle Seahawks are looking good as well. Yeah. And the NLC. Yeah, they're grand now. And they're basically kind of playing under the radar. And I don't wanna say under the radar, diminishing who they are, but we're not talking about

Them as much as we're talking about other teams and they probably like that They probably want you to look up and say hey, wait a minute fucking Seahawks is six and no How the fuck did they get there? Hold on. Let's start paying attention to them So maybe the NMC East the whole NRC we got to wait and see and then Wait, the 49ers if they maintain to get their players back with a decent record I think that they'll be all right. We got to think about Deebo is not 100% McCaffrey's still out, Kiddles played but he's still not looking 100%. Like you said, Brock Purdy's probably the only one that has superstar, all-star status, a pro-bo status,

that's 100%. That's just my opinion on that. But as far as the game, Mike said it best, they looking like very fun to watch. And if they do keep progressing, shit, I would love to see it because I don't like watching boring ass fucking games and I gotta watch them so I know what I'm talking about.

And them niggas are really exciting look he had a great game against the Bengals he had a great game against the Bengals but I gotta give the head coach some credit and we have to give the offensive coordinator some credit or whoever's calling the plays in Washington because that last game against the Bengals before I say what I got to say about this game is that look, the game was on the line. It was third and 10 and he threw a bomb 40 yard touchdown pass. They don't have to call that play. They could have just went for another first down and moved it down the ball. But they say we got one. That's when you trust your quarterback and you trust your wide

receiver. When you like, fuck that. We're going against Joe Burrow. We put these niggas to bed are we going home they put them niggas to bed so that's my personal opinion i think they're super duper fun to watch today ran for 47 yards over 230 240 yards passing they had a great rush attacker one of their runners over 100 over 100 yards rushing if barcenton keeps a balanced attack you're right mike cowboys might as well forget it cause I'm gonna keep it a but. None of us, I mean, at least me,

I'm not gonna speak for everybody, thought that the commanders would be number one in the division right now at this moment in time. We thought it would be the cowboys or we thought it would be Philadelphia. Nobody was thinking about the Giants-Neaver. But if somebody's saying to me be like you're out the week for Washington's gonna be number one in the visit. Whoever better than that should be up because I want to bet nobody's at that right

Mm-hmm. And then as far as Jaden Daniels record so far He has a three and run record through four games Of course are number one in the NFC East five touchdowns and one interception. And he sets the NFL record for completion percentage with 82.1% completed passes in his first four games. A lot of people now are trying to discuss who's having the better rookie season so far him or CJ Stroud, which is something that we can eventually discuss once we see a little bit more games, but Jayden Daniels is off to a great start.

Okay. Well, Mike, real quick, real quick. And we're going to talk much as we just talk about niggas though, real quick, two things before I go. Cam Newton rookie season was crazy too. Cam Newton had a hell of a rookie season. And then the last thing I'll say is just, it's a little bit off topic is this is that the Aces lost to the Liberty last night which puts New York one game up against Vegas in the WNBA semi-finals. Spike Lee I'm telling you now stop popping niggas gonna pop on you Spike. Don't pull up now to Brooklyn to their games like you're a Liberty fan. You're gonna fuck up everything. You're like Mush and Bronx tail.

When the niggas get on a horse, they get better, they just know they gonna lose. Spike niggas will pop. I'm telling you now, get away from the Liberty for you fuck up everything. Always fuck it up for us, Spike. The Knicks, now you gonna fuck up the Liberty. They right there,

stay out of the fucking Barclays center Spike please. Didn't I see one of the girls didn't I see one of the girls come I saw one of the girls say that Spike gave her a high five or something like that and she's like she couldn't believe Spike gave her a high five and another thing about WMB I was pissed off about now and I thought they made a poor decision on they played Caitlin Clark's first playoff game on a Sunday I don't give a darn I would have moved that game to a To a toot and got all the NFL out the way you see what I mean On a Sunday so they have something on The Liberty game part of me was on during football time I'm looking at two TVs and one trying to balance it out. You're right Mike. I don't know why

Why are they doing that like stop you got you got you you got the gift right now and it's ready to explode that like stop you got you got you you got the gift right now and it's ready to explode don't come challenging the king lia i'd have given him not out of hey would have i would have worked around them nights i guarantee y'all i took them next night so i get it so you get the ratings up to where you need them so the next deal you go in and say these are our ratings give me my money you see what i'm saying that's all i've'm saying. I just wish they would have done that. Yeah. Very smart. Very good point. Very good point. Yeah. Okay. Well, Mike, it was a pleasure to have you today. We'll see you in a couple days.

It's always great talking with you guys. Thank you guys. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Okay. That's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want nigga everything nigga super size Like when they doing them to provide